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President of Guyana Bharat Jagdeo
President of Guyana Bharat Jagdeo

BROOKLYN, NEW YORK: Guyanaโ€™s President, Bharrat Jagdeo, in his address to the 30th Meeting of Caricom Heads of Government, which began in Guyana yesterday, appealed for the rights of Guyanese to respected by Barbadian Immigration authorities. But Jagdeo himself is not getting a pass from the New York based Caribbean Guyana Institute for Democracy (CGID). The Institute is demanding that Jagdeo heeds his own words.

CGID President, Rickford Burke, said Friday that although he agrees in principle with the Guyanese leader, Jagdeo has no honor on the subject of human rights and must be heed his own counsel. Burke added that โ€œBarbados is not the chief abuser of the human rights of Guyanese โ€“ the Jagdeo government is. The lack of respect the Guyana government demonstrates for its own citizens and its mediocre, despotic governance, invite the mistreatment of Guyanese in the region,โ€ Burke observed.โ€

On May 5, 2009 Barbados Prime Minister, David Thompson, implemented a controversial new immigration policy of deporting undocumented Caricom nationals who entered Barbados after December 2005. Since then, immigration officials have conducted early morning raids on the homes of suspected undocumented Caricom nationals, and have โ€œdeportedโ€ or โ€œremovedโ€ them from Barbados. Guyanese constitute the largest immigrant block in Barbados. Over eighty percent of the Barbados deportees have been Guyanese.

President Jagdeo told the conference that โ€œWhile countries have a sovereign right to determine their own immigration policies, the maltreatment of CARICOM citizens is repugnant to the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas as well as to basic human decency.” Jagdeo also said that โ€œIf nationals are treated in such a manner by their own people then the region cannot expect a third country to receive its citizens in any better way.โ€

Responding to Jagdeoโ€™s comments, Burke asserted that โ€œwhile defending the human rights of Guyanese is a fiduciary function of the presidency of Guyana, President Jagdeo has no credibility to make this case, as United Nations has established, and the Guyanese people know, that his government is the biggest violator of Guyanese human rights.โ€

Burke accused President Jagdeo of heading a repressive ethnocracy that uses discrimination and ethnic supremacy as instruments of governance. โ€œThe Jagdeo administration has an oppressive noose around the necks of Afro-Guyanese, which they systematically tighten, as if to subjugate that population into another form of servitude and political wilderness. He said that under Mr. Jagdeoโ€™s predominantly Indian ruling Peopleโ€™s Progressive Party (PPP) government, Guyana has become a โ€œhellholeโ€ of ethnic and racial discrimination, torture and human rights violations.

Burke backed up his allegations by citing sections 34, 35, 65 and 70 of the February 23, 2009 Report of the United Nations independent expert on minority Issues, Ms. Gay McDougall, which was presented to the United Nations General Assembly.

Section 34-35 of the report states that: โ€œThe independent expert encountered claims of widespread and institutionalized discrimination against members of the Afro-Guyanese community and indigenous peoples. Some described the โ€œvictimizationโ€ of poor Afro-Guyanese and an informal system of rights and privileges in society to which they lack access.โ€

Section 65 says โ€œConcerns were expressed by Afro-Guyanese and others regarding numerous killings of young Afro-Guyanese men from 2002 to the present day, and the existence of what has been described as a โ€œphantom death squadโ€. A wide array of people within the community put the number of deaths at between 200 and 400. The reports note execution style killings, disappearances and failure to adequately record or investigate the murders. The perception is of a collusion of Government and law enforcement with known criminals to facilitate the targeting and killing of young African males known.โ€

70 states that, โ€œNGOs and community members raised concerns regarding serious rights violations against Afro-Guyanese including arbitrary detention without trial, torture, deaths and mistreatment in custody, and killings of innocent civilians during operations by the joint servicesโ€ฆ It is claimed that, taken as a whole, these evidence a wider pattern and practice of gross rights violations against Afro-Guyanese and a failure of due process.โ€

Burke said amidst such gross atrocities by the Jagdeo administration and complaints about torture and human rights violations, Caricom leaders claim that they do not wish to interfere in the internal affairs of Guyana. He however said that while he agrees with their condemnation of some Barbados immigration practices, including alleged human rights violations, he find the double standard worrisome. โ€œClearly, they are interfering in Barbadian domestic policy, and rightly so. But what has been happening in Guyana is far more egregious. Their silence on Guyana is therefore hypocritical and repugnant to Caricom and its Charter of Civil Society,โ€ he added.

Burke reiterated that Barbadosโ€™ sovereignty and domestic laws must be respected and that it should be expected that violators may be brought to justice. He however contended that โ€œRaiding the homes of individuals, violating their human rights and deporting or removing them, without due process, exclusively for overstaying their time, is indeed repugnant to the spirit of Caricom and the Revised Treaty of Chaguaramas.โ€

Burke, who announced that he has written the Barbadian Prime Minister on the matter, urged Thompson to treat Guyanese fleeing Guyana humanely, as discrimination is pervasive and political and economic conditions perilous. He noted that international law prohibits deporting an individual back to a country of origin where that individual could be subjected to torture or political persecution.

He argued that apart from the deplorable raids, arbitrary deportations or removals and the alleged mistreatment of Caricom nationals, the fact that those being deported or removed from Barbados allegedly are not accorded fundamental due process to assure conformity to international law, should be unacceptable to the Caricom citizenry;ย  including Barbadians, whom he said have a long tradition in the region of upholding civil and human rights.

The CGID head again stated that immigration policy throughout the region needs to be reformed and rationalized but that unilateral, singular and uncoordinated action by one government, is counterproductive to a harmonized regional policy approach that is compatible with deeper integration. He urged leaders meeting in Georgetown to develop a Caricom approach to migration across the region.

Burke also criticized some Jagdeo supporters and others whom he said โ€œhave interjected race into the discussion.โ€ โ€œThere is no evidence that the Barbadian policy was tinged by ethnic considerations. I stand with the Prime Minister of Barbados in rejecting this ugly tactic, which does nothing but create deeper divisions and color the real issues being debated,” the CGID President stressed.


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  1. Let the racism stay in south america. We don’t want it in the caribbean. Deport them now!!!


  2. T (Mr. Thompson) LEMME GO DOAN HOLD ME.
    LEMME GO DOAN BLIND FOLD ME. I AIMING NOW TO BE FREE.
    DLP is only getting ONE TERM in office.We fed up with this immigration crap.
    (1)water rates gone UP 60%.
    (2) unemployment UP.
    (3) light and power rates going UP.
    (4)poor pensioners now gotta pay new DRUG FEE.
    (5)road tax /licensing fee UP.
    (6)food prices gone UP.
    (7)petroleum prices going UP.
    AND I AM SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE IT IS BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS……
    I can’t wait to show you band of 20 what i think next election.
    I GONNA BEAT WUNNA WID MY X.

  3. TO PARIS YOU GO Avatar
    TO PARIS YOU GO

    What racism ? You bloggers are demented people .You all are the racists bastards. Trying to stir up hatred and division amongst the people.
    This is 2009, not 1950…
    BARBADOS NAZIS……Why not raid their houses and then put them in concentration camps like how you put the Africans down behind the airport.
    You y /paris are the Evil racists bastards that trying to frig up the Caribbean.
    Racism does not exist in Barbados anymore and it never will……People need to take a stand and come together as BOB MARLEY SAID !!!!!!!!
    ONE LOVE ONE HEART…….. LETS GET TOGETHER AND FEEL ALRIGHT!
    If there is racism in Guyana lets show the people how to come together for the benefit of all……….
    I TIRED OF THIS BULL ……LET’S UNITE AND RID BARBADOS OF ALL THESE EVIL RACIST BLOGGERS…….
    LETS DEPORT ALL RACIST BLOGGERS…………….


  4. Let Barbados be a beacon and shining light to the rest of the Caribbean….Let’s show them we can get the job done without bursting down people’s doors and making them stool on the floor……
    Stop worrying about Jagdeo and what he does …….Let’s lead by example………Two wrong never makes a right and God don’t like ugly……


  5. Yaaaawnn. Burke should tell us who else in his so called “Institute” besides himself.
    This “Indian government discrimnating against blacks is all the PNC opposition in Guyana has now (look at its origins coming out of African middle class racism, as Rodney wrote).
    The so calledUN report was done by one woman on two day whirlwind trip to Guyana guided on a tour by the so called Guyana Human Righst group, a non representative body. The so called report did not report on feelings of indigenous peoples (Amerindians) as she was mandated to do on “minority issues”. A consultant, this so called expert would not have got paid if she submitted a report saying “No problems here; races together in peace despite tensions as in any other country”.
    “To Paris You go”, This racist site soon to be closed down, as similar sites have been shut down, as police now have extension documentation. Racists have no freedom of speech.

  6. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Burke and his one man entity has no moral authority to pronounce on what he perceives as Jagdeo’s ill treatment of Guyanese nor the allegations against the Bajans. Every country has a right to determine who it wants and who it doesn’t. It is convenient for Burke and his cronies to blame the short-comings of his fellow kinsmen (Afro-Guyanese) on everyone else except themselves. Afro-Guyanese suffer as a result of the poor leadership of Burke and his cronies in the Opposition, just look how they currently are fighting amongst themselves in the PNC. The flight of Guyanese to countries like Barbados and elsewhere did not take place overnight, as Burke might want others to believe. Neither did Burke and his cronies make it any easier during those 28 years of misrule in which Burke was a willing participant in the raping and buggering of Guyana.

  7. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    The Report filed by McDougall which Burke referred to reads like excerpts of the racialised anti-government letters written in the Guyana press and hate blogs. If McDougall was indeed an independent Expert she would be studied the ways in which the opposition has used race-based discourses as political resource, rather than as objective expressions of injustice.
    Instead of analyzing the race-based narrative of the counter-democratic forces as a strategy of political competition, McDougall treats them as โ€˜objectives textsโ€™ which must be used as legitimate documents. No expert on Guyana would do this. Worse yet, no impartial Independent Expert would read one set of narratives while marginalizing others.
    Any impartial expert in a conflict would take the time to present a comprehensive perspective of the factual situation that exists on the ground. In doing so, the expert would exercise a high degree of professionalism by accurately representing all dimensions of a conflict. This particular expert, however, found one side guilty. Quite fantastically, instead of presenting the complex sociological situation in Guyana, Ms. McDougall laid all the blame on Indians and the PPP. In simple language, this U.N. expert displayed clear bias for the opposition, and one ethnic group.
    The expertโ€™s bias can be clearly illustrated by looking at the way she deals with the armed forces in Guyana. Although Africans up about 30% of Guyanaโ€™s population, they make up over 90% of the armed forces. All reports prior to McDougallโ€™s have rightfully seen this as wrong. Gay McDougall, however, uses the dominance of Africans in the Military against Indians when she says that Indians are afraid of the military because of their ethnicity. This is a particular egregious instance of this Independent Expertโ€™s aggressive partially.
    McDougallโ€™s Carelessness โ€“ Ms. McDougall is a Yale Law School graduate. She knows the difference between hear-say and facts, and the difference between allegations and evidence. Most of all, she knows that great care should be exercised in the collection of evidence in getting a solid understanding. Despite her training, Gay McDougall spent three days in a country of 83,000 square miles separated with endless rivers and interior regions. Three days.
    She was apparently ill during one of those days. It appears therefore, that her investigation lasted two days! McDougall could have only arrived at her conclusions through one of three procedures, namely โ€“ (1) the sociology and politics of country is so transparent it could be read from the most cursory of inspections; (2) she held several (round-the-clock) focus group meetings/hearings and heard pretty much the same story; (3) she arrived in the country without adequate preparation and instead of engaging in wide-ranging fact-finding, she confined her conversation to one segment of the population.
    The first option is not possible. Guyana is not transparent. No matter how small, no country can be so read from the hotel window, even under Western eyes. The Caribbean is known for its complexity.
    The second option, that is, several focus group meetings were held in the 2-3 days research visit in Guyana, did not happen. We know this because the government of Guyana has publicly stated that it sought consultations with Ms. McDougall but were unsuccessful. Her meeting with the President was ceremonial โ€“ a matter of protocol, not investigative.
    It must be that Gay McDougallโ€™s fact finding mission in Guyana developed through the third strategy, namely conversation with one group, or more accurately, one segment of one ethnic group.
    A clear illustration of McDougallโ€™s carelessness can be found in her representation of the spatial structure of Guyana. She complains about villages being dominated by one group without properly describing the circumstances which led to this. She also neglects to mention that since 1992, Presidents C. Jagan, J, Jagan, and B. Jagdeo have distributed about 70,000 house lots, and the most new housing schemes are multiracial. McDougall could know this because she only visited Georgetown and Buxton.
    This is utter and unforgivable carelessness for anymore, but especially for an official from a High office on the United Nations.
    Irresponsible Report โ€“ The last thing that United Nations should do is to allow its offices to be used to legitimize violence, albeit under the name of resistance. Gay McDougallโ€™s report clearly gives succor to counter-democratic elements in Guyana who have been engaging in wanton killing and even in massacres. The U.N. has not been in that business before, and it should not start now. The U.N. should ask McDougall why she did not go to Lusignan, the village that was massacred. In the political logic supported by McDougall, the massacre (of Indians) at Lusignan was understandable, if not justified.
    McDougall spent three days in Guyana and had some conversations with a small group of people. She obviously did so through a prism of pre-analytic and politicized dispositions. She then filed an Expert Report!
    Gay McDougall will no doubt go on to another case and file another report. It might very well be better than the one she did on Guyana. But one thing is for sure. Her report will be the basis for deepening antagonisms in Guyana.
    This is very unfortunate because Ms. McDougall could have really used the multilateral authority of the U.N. to move to Guyana one step forward. She chose not to do so, and for that must only be credited with rolling back race relations in a country that is trying hard to be better.
    The U.N. should appoint a small team of Independent Experts to investigate McDougallโ€™s partial, careless, and irresponsible report.


  8. Forget the long talk, why are Guyanese leaving the underpopulated Guyana in droves?

  9. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    David……..that’s simple! Higher paying jobs! That’s what we have been saying all the time. Burke and others would want folks to believe that it’s cause of what they perceive to be discriminatory policies by the government against Afro-Guyanese in an effort to further their anti-government agenda, but Indo-Guyanese who are perceived to be supporters of the government are fleeing too. So where’s the discrimination?


  10. Popularly held view is the Jagdeo government is exporting his people to attract foreign exchange.


  11. Proud guyanese

    Norman is that you?

    The U.N. Report was not mandated to deal with the Amerindians.

    I see norman you may be losing your pick soon.

  12. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    David! Guyana was exporting people in droves way before Jagdeo became President!

  13. TO PARIS YOU GO Avatar
    TO PARIS YOU GO

    โ€œTo MARXโ€, This racist site soon to be closed down, as similar sites have been shut down, as police now have extension documentation. Racists have no freedom of speech.

    Neither does Illegal Immigrants ….DUMB ASS


  14. We know from the opening sentence what the writer โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€ thinks about the McDougall Report. He/She said it reads โ€œlike excerpts of the racialised anti-government letters written in the Guyana press and hate blogsโ€. Proud Guyanese attacks Ms. McDougallโ€™s methodology, analysis and conclusions. First of all a report like this is not the product of three days (or two as Proud Guyanese asserts) work. There would have to be tremendous prework by members of Ms McDougallโ€™s team prior to Ms McDougallโ€™s arrival in Guyana.

    โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€ then proceeds to cherry pick points to support his/her arguments but does not provide any concrete evidence to support his/her viewpoint. In my cursory review of the report the author was careful to provide the Guyana Govโ€™t POV in all instances and even commends the Govโ€™t for โ€œthe steps it has taken to date to address issues of ethnic tensions, criminal activity and economic underdevelopmentโ€.

    It appears that nothing less than an endorsement of the Guyana Govโ€™t policies would satisfy the Guyana Govโ€™t and โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€. โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€ states that Ms McDougall did not visit the village of Lusignan where a โ€œmassacreโ€ occurred. The โ€œmassacreโ€ and the village were mentioned in the Report did she have to visit the village too? What about the two other villages where people were massacred, did she have to visit them also? The writer also notes that Ms McDougall neglects to mention that the Guyana Govโ€™y under the PPP โ€˜distributed about 70,000 housesโ€. However in the Report Ms McDougall credits the Govโ€™t with 80,000 houses.

    Finally โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€ calls for a team of Independent experts to investigate Ms McDougallโ€™s report. The question is why? The Guyana Govโ€™t has not provided any evidence to counter Ms.McDougallโ€™s report other than claims of bias etc.

  15. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Sargeant the government of Guyana outlined it concerns and objections to the inaccuracies contained in Mc Dougall’s report. Click the link below to get a preview http://www.gina.gov.gy/human%20rights%20report.pdf

    And here is an excerpt from the response “The State Party received the Draft Report on January 14, 2009, reviewed it and submitted a comprehensive and detailed response to every section of the Draft Report on February 10, 2009. The State Party anticipated that the Draft Report would have been suitably revised to include the State Partyโ€™s submissions including the removal of gross inaccuracies and offensive statements.
    Regrettably, on receipt of the final revised draft version (dated February 16, 2009) on February 27, 2009, the State Party recognized that few of its observations, clarifications, and corrections of misinformation and subjectivism were incorporated.”

  16. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Mc Dougall’s report was also rejected by the Federation of Indepen-dent Trade Unions of Guyana (FITUG).

    FITUG declared that the โ€œperceived ethnic polarization being bandied by the expert is a product of either her own imagination or a willing acceptance of misinformation by well-known prophets of doom only too willing to see actual upheavals . . .โ€

    FITUG said in a press release yesterday that it represents four premier trade unions with some 36,000 workers and is therefore the countryโ€™s largest representative entity, and it was therefore extremely disappointed that the Minority issues expert found that she โ€œcould not fit the countryโ€™s largest representative workers organization into her schedule.โ€

  17. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Ethiopia , Dominica Republic, Greek and Austria, Austrailia etc also rejected Mc Dougall’s report for similar reasons.


  18. @ Proud Guyanese

    Davidโ€ฆโ€ฆ..thatโ€™s simple! Higher paying jobs!
    *************************************
    If it was so simple one has to ask why are Bajans not flocking to Canada for the โ€Higher paying Jobsโ€ available there. Canada is El Dorado to Guyanese, yet many Bajans complete their studies there and opt to return home. Many Bajans also visit on holiday (no visa requirement) and return home. If Proud Guyanese was being honest he/she would also say that people are fleeing the crime, violence and ethnic divisions that permeates the country.

    Somehow the lure of โ€œhigher wagesโ€ doesnโ€™t hold the same attraction for Bajans, they prefer the comforts of home.


  19. @Proud Guyanese

    FITUG declared that the โ€œperceived ethnic polarization being bandied by the expert is a product of either her own imagination or a willing acceptance of misinformation by well-known prophets of doom only too willing to see actual upheavals
    ************************************
    Could have fooled me. Why then are the Guyanese Associations found in the major North American cities e.g. Toronto & New York organized along ethnic lines? Do they like each other in Guyana and dislike one another when they go abroad?

  20. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Somehow the lure of โ€œhigher wagesโ€ doesnโ€™t hold the same attraction for Bajans, they prefer the comforts of home.
    ***************************************
    Sargeant…….everybody not the same. How come we have people across the world speaking many different languages?
    And you cannot profess to speak on behalf of or think for “ALL GUYANESE” who have migrated!
    Next you’ll tell me you’re “GOD ALMIGHTY”


  21. @Proud Guyanese

    Are โ€œhigher paying jobsโ€ the only reason that people are leaving Guyana?


  22. It is instructive to see member of the govt of Guyana’s blog monitoring unit alive and well here on this blog. This ‘proud Guyanese’ aka Prem Misir can spin this wonderful tale about the motives and methods of Ms MacDougal, however, it does not change the reality on the ground in Guyana. Afro- Guyanese by an large suffer at the hands of the corrupt and racist PPP regime.
    Maybe, he can also explain to members of this blog why his govt maintains an monopoly on radio, restrict private national TV operations in the largest Afro- Guyanese community, Linden.
    Before Jagdeo condemns the Thompson administration about upholding the rule of law, he must first seek to adhere to those principles at home.


  23. @Proud Guyanese

    Next youโ€™ll tell me youโ€™re โ€œGOD ALMIGHTYโ€
    ************************************
    I just provided my opinion and asked a few questions now you are getting all hot and bothered, careful now donโ€™t blow your topโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ


  24. Should read the govt of Guyana maintains a monopoly on radio.


  25. Lsst week a man came to my house for a lodging. He said he would stay for 2 days.

    When the time came for him to leave, his response was, that he was not leaving.

    He proceeded to tell me how I should run the affairs of my house and topped it off with words of colour.

    Your advise in this would be appreciated


  26. Remittance is only one of the reasons Jagdeo was exporting guyanese. Let’s face it; 50,000 guyanese in barbados sending back an average U.S.$ 10.00 per week, that’s U.S $ 500,000 per wk.Imagine this is a very conservative figure and this is only barbados. You can let your imaginations fly by trying to estimate how much remittance Jagdeo is getting per wk, mth or yr. You should see them on week-ends shipping out the money. What that is doing is drainung Barbados of foreign reserves, as they shipp out U.S $ only, while taking advantage of our social services. This just cannot continue, it’s like a cancer.


  27. Scout,
    I agree. Persons who are criticising the PM for his stance don’t seem or pretend not to understand that
    illegals are draining the island of much needed foreign exchange with their weekly remittances back to their countries,(Guyana) being the biggest offender. These same persons are being paid off the books, hence no contribution to NIS and at the same time are tapping into the social services of the island.I have a few Guyanese counterparts here in New York who have been jumping on the bandwagon. They were trying to be sarcastic calling Barbados “small island” and how Guyana can swallow Barbados. I simply ask them if Barbados “is not much” why are Guyanese going there in droves.?. I gave them the answer. BAD MANAGEMENT.


  28. The Report filed by McDougall which Burke referred to reads like excerpts of the racialised anti-government letters written in the Guyana press and hate blogs. If McDougall was indeed an independent Expert she would be studied the ways in which the opposition has used race-based discourses as political resource, rather than as objective expressions of injustice.
    Instead of analyzing the race-based narrative of the counter-democratic forces as a strategy of political competition, McDougall treats them as โ€˜objectives textsโ€™ which must be used as legitimate documents. No expert on Guyana would do this. Worse yet, no impartial Independent Expert would read one set of narratives while marginalizing others.
    Any impartial expert in a conflict would take the time to present a comprehensive perspective of the factual situation that exists on the ground. In doing so, the expert would exercise a high degree of professionalism by accurately representing all dimensions of a conflict. This particular expert, however, found one side guilty. Quite fantastically, instead of presenting the complex sociological situation in Guyana, Ms. McDougall laid all the blame on Indians and the PPP. In simple language, this U.N. expert displayed clear bias for the opposition, and one ethnic group.
    The expertโ€™s bias can be clearly illustrated by looking at the way she deals with the armed forces in Guyana. Although Africans up about 30% of Guyanaโ€™s population, they make up over 90% of the armed forces. All reports prior to McDougallโ€™s have rightfully seen this as wrong. Gay McDougall, however, uses the dominance of Africans in the Military against Indians when she says that Indians are afraid of the military because of their ethnicity. This is a particular egregious instance of this Independent Expertโ€™s aggressive partially.
    McDougallโ€™s Carelessness โ€“ Ms. McDougall is a Yale Law School graduate. She knows the difference between hear-say and facts, and the difference between allegations and evidence. Most of all, she knows that great care should be exercised in the collection of evidence in getting a solid understanding. Despite her training, Gay McDougall spent three days in a country of 83,000 square miles separated with endless rivers and interior regions. Three days.
    She was apparently ill during one of those days. It appears therefore, that her investigation lasted two days! McDougall could have only arrived at her conclusions through one of three procedures, namely โ€“ (1) the sociology and politics of country is so transparent it could be read from the most cursory of inspections; (2) she held several (round-the-clock) focus group meetings/hearings and heard pretty much the same story; (3) she arrived in the country without adequate preparation and instead of engaging in wide-ranging fact-finding, she confined her conversation to one segment of the population.
    The first option is not possible. Guyana is not transparent. No matter how small, no country can be so read from the hotel window, even under Western eyes. The Caribbean is known for its complexity.
    The second option, that is, several focus group meetings were held in the 2-3 days research visit in Guyana, did not happen. We know this because the government of Guyana has publicly stated that it sought consultations with Ms. McDougall but were unsuccessful. Her meeting with the President was ceremonial โ€“ a matter of protocol, not investigative.
    It must be that Gay McDougallโ€™s fact finding mission in Guyana developed through the third strategy, namely conversation with one group, or more accurately, one segment of one ethnic group.
    A clear illustration of McDougallโ€™s carelessness can be found in her representation of the spatial structure of Guyana. She complains about villages being dominated by one group without properly describing the circumstances which led to this. She also neglects to mention that since 1992, Presidents C. Jagan, J, Jagan, and B. Jagdeo have distributed about 70,000 house lots, and the most new housing schemes are multiracial. McDougall could know this because she only visited Georgetown and Buxton.
    This is utter and unforgivable carelessness for anymore, but especially for an official from a High office on the United Nations.
    Irresponsible Report โ€“ The last thing that United Nations should do is to allow its offices to be used to legitimize violence, albeit under the name of resistance. Gay McDougallโ€™s report clearly gives succor to counter-democratic elements in Guyana who have been engaging in wanton killing and even in massacres. The U.N. has not been in that business before, and it should not start now. The U.N. should ask McDougall why she did not go to Lusignan, the village that was massacred. In the political logic supported by McDougall, the massacre (of Indians) at Lusignan was understandable, if not justified.
    McDougall spent three days in Guyana and had some conversations with a small group of people. She obviously did so through a prism of pre-analytic and politicized dispositions. She then filed an Expert Report!
    Gay McDougall will no doubt go on to another case and file another report. It might very well be better than the one she did on Guyana. But one thing is for sure. Her report will be the basis for deepening antagonisms in Guyana.
    This is very unfortunate because Ms. McDougall could have really used the multilateral authority of the U.N. to move to Guyana one step forward. She chose not to do so, and for that must only be credited with rolling back race relations in a country that is trying hard to be better.
    The U.N. should appoint a small team of Independent Experts to investigate McDougallโ€™s partial, careless, and irresponsible report.
    ###########################

    Absolute Rubbish.

    The PPP Governmnent is so damn racist that they look at this black woman and allow all of the inborn prejudice that informs their judgement about black people becom,e the fuel for their rejection of her expertise. The PPP Government is so damn dumb, that they fault her for not investigating the situation with the indigenous peoples, when the UN has a special and distinct agancy for that, and that was not on McDougal’s agenda.

    McDougal has experience with the manifestation of racism. She was born and grew up in the US. She is able to listen to the formulations of these bigots, and get a deja vu image of where they are coming from.

    McDougal conducted her investigations in the manner in which any such investigations should be conducted. She spoke with the complainants. What they PPP hoped to do, and was unable to because McDougal is hip to that ploy, was to present some tame negros in front of her and have them pronounce, “we is happy with the PPP” while their Masters Jagdeo et al stood proudly by at the side grinning like chestire cats. They are so damn backwardly racist that they still believe that they are bound to be smarter than a black woman, degrees and experiential qualifications notwithstanding.

    You go to the Guyana Blogs, including the guyanaobservernews.org, and witness the racial slurs and triumphalistic comments of the supporters of the PPP. No, Presidnt Jagdeo has no moral authority to point his fingers at Prime Minister Thompson. President Jagdeo stood silently by while a phantom gang led by two Indians, one a Minister in the Government and the other a international narcotic trafficker, were engaged in kidnapping, torturing and killing young black men. He reacted furiously whenever Indians were were killed by suspected black criminals, and offered rewards for their killings. But he did absolutely nothing when his gang of janjaweed militia gunned down political activist Ronald Waddell.

    Mr Thompson is coming out and condemning any atrocity that occurs in the immigration process. Jagdeo did not do that when atrocities were and are occuring in the Law Enforcement process. That is the difference between a national leader and an ethnic leader. Bharrat Jagdeo is the leader of an ethnic clan in Guyana. It is what it is.


  29. Free movement does not mean persons can reside illegally in any other country

    July 5, 2009 | By Christopher | Filed Under Letters

    Dear Editor,

    Sir Shridath Ramphal allegation in Kaieteur News (July 4, 2009) that Barbados government is involved in โ€œethnic cleansingโ€ based on an editorial he purportedly read in the Barbados Nation newspaper that โ€œnoted that one of the problems with Guyanese immigrants, and immigrants in general is that Barbados must not allow its racial balances to be disturbed by immigrationโ€ is unfortunate. It is surprising that Sir Shridath, a man of international repute, on an issue of legality can make such diversion. If Sir Shridathโ€™s allegation of โ€œethnic cleansingโ€ is based on statement from the Barbados government then he would have been correct in his assumption.

    The Barbados Nation is not government controlled and an editorial reference is not enough for making a claim that PM Thompson 5th May Immigration Policy is โ€œethnic cleansing.โ€ Barbados has found itself in a mess. For years they have allowed people to live illegally and now efforts to manage migration which obviously will affect Indian Guyanese as much as it would affect African Guyanese and other CARICOM nationals, is seen by some as โ€œethnic cleansing.โ€ In Guyana โ€œethnic cleaningโ€ refers to race.

    Over the years Iโ€™ve followed Guyanaโ€™s politics and am convinced the greatest hindrance to this countryโ€™s development are the racial conflicts and discrimination. I think too it has the government support. That is a problem Guyanese have to fix. Fixing it also requires acknowledgment and support of prominent Guyanese in Barbados like Sir Shridath Ramphal, Rickey Singh, Norman Faria and Campton Bourne.

    There are many Guyanese Indians living in Barbados, including Sir Shridath, who have been the recipient of Bajansโ€™ hospitality and cannot make claim of โ€œethnic cleansing.โ€ One therefore has to be concerned with this new claim. Frankly, I think there are persons in Guyana and in Barbados who had an immigration plan for Barbados and PM Thompsonโ€™s policy made them fearful things are not going exactly as planned. For them the next best plan was to accuse Barbados of โ€œethnic cleansing.โ€

    They know too that Barbados relies heavily on tourism and image is important to this. They have concluded that accusations of โ€œethnic cleansingโ€ would hurt Barbadosโ€™ image and economy and because of this fear Barbados will no longer pursue its current immigration policy. How sad!

    Dominica Prime Minister, Roosevelt Skerrit, reminder that โ€œfree movement does not mean that persons can reside illegally in any other countryโ€ could be the starting point for level heads to continue the immigration debate. Barbados and every law-abiding country must not let the immigration issue be hijacked by accusation of โ€œethnic cleansingโ€ based on an editorial purportedly carried in the Barbados Nation!

    Brain Alleyne


  30. Proud Guyanese only became proud of that nation in 1992 when an ethnic referandum propelled the racist PPP party into power. Immediately afterward, Jagan began ethnicly cleansing the public service of blakcks, claiming they were being paid too high salaries. He then replaced them with unwualified Indians, many of whom had been living overseas and disowning Guyana because they refused to be governed by the son of a slave. That is the mantra you year when you go into the deep constituency of the PPP. And there is where Jagdeo goes, stands on podiums, and regals the crowd with accusations against “they”. Both he and them understand fully what the reference “they” implies.

    Proud Guyanese and his ilk have no regard for black people or their intelligence. That is why he would come into this blog and attempt to insult the intelligence of bajans with his nonsense about McDougal. When McDougal examined press ownership in Guyana she saw no newspapers or radio owned and controlled by the second largest population group in the nation. She saw the national media which is paid for by tax payers being used as an ethnic and political propaganda instrument by the PPP. She saw Indians owning 80% of all the commercial areas, and getting a larger percentage of Government contracts, while the Government calls for balancing the one occupational area where most people of African descent work. She saw the Government crippling of the Bauxite Industry with its predominant African work force, while heavily subsiding the sugar industry with its predominant Indian work force.

    The PPP Government discriminates blatantly against Guyanese of African descent, and then divert attention from that by pointing to the reign of the PNC which has been over for almost two decades. The recent auditor general’s report documents the theft of billions of dollars from the national coffers, something it has been documenting since 2006, and nothing has been done by the Government in response. These are the people this proud Guyanese wants to make you believe are incapable of such things like discrimination. People who clapped and cheered on extra-judicial lynching of blackmen, and with the next breath wax hypocritically about people adhering to the rule of law. Go figure.


  31. Thanks, ruel daniels for the TRUTH. The handwriting is on the wall.

  32. Rickford Burke Avatar
    Rickford Burke

    โ€œProud Guyaneseโ€ and others:
    (a) As a proud Guyanese myself, I am not afraid to present and/or defend my views in my own name. I donโ€™t hide behind pseudonyms and fictitious names. Why donโ€™t you do the same? Is it because you are afraid to spew racism in you own name and that we will find out who you really are?

    (b) Well we know that already! So I suggest that both Dr. Prim Misir, the Pro-Chancellor of the University of Guyana and Communications Advisor to President Bharrat Jagdeo and Mr. Norman Ferrier, Guyana’s (or better put, the ruling PPPโ€™s)โ€ Honoraryโ€ Consul to Barbados, and others, who have apparently made contributions on blogs, to start blogging in their own name. (Donโ€™t hide behind silly names. Come forward as Prim or Norman, so that we could deal with you appropriately).

    (b) It is good to see that โ€œThe PPP Boysโ€ have found religion on the issue of deportation of Guyanese from Barbados and other Caricom countries. Hitherto, there was a curious disinterest. When we complained in years past, all the PPP government would do is issue a โ€œwishy washyโ€ note verbale from Georgetown, and thatโ€™s it. Now there are in it โ€œhead to foot.โ€ Why? I donโ€™t really know but someone with knowledge on this issue said to me that members of their own political constituency have now been affected, and that from their (the PPP boys) perspective, Prime Minister David Thompson seems to be impeding the furtherance of a certain axis. Again, I donโ€™t know but I will wait and see.

    (c) If CGID is a one man organization why President Jagdeo, you all and the PPP seem so cared of and obsessed with us? Why CGID and Rickford Burke are the first words you all say when you wake up in the morning and before you go to bed at nights? The same one-man organization is recognized by the United States Congress, the New York Senate and Assembly, the US government, the Canadian government, New York City Council, United Nations Human Rights Commission, OAS, Caricom Secretary General and Caricom Heads of Government, Heads of State in Africa, Taiwan, etc, the Governor of New York State, the Mayor of New York City who held a town hall meeting with CGID’s Board of Directors at Meyer Levin (IS 285) School in Brooklyn etc. Go and do some research and stop โ€œpsycho-babblingโ€ and embarrassing yourselves.

    (d) The McDougall report is fair, factual and evidence based. It has complete credibility as it captures the essence of the Guyanese polity, governance and life. We know that everyone who exposes or condemns PPP racism is called a โ€œracistโ€ by the very โ€œindignant racistโ€ themselves. We expect this. Thatโ€™s what they even called Martin Luther King, Jr. and Nelson Mandela. Nevertheless, I suggest that you guys stop hating the messenger. She didnโ€™t create the perilous conditions in Guyana. She merely described them. Stop the racism and discrimination and then the message will change.

    (e) Tell us what aspect of the Mc Dougall report is inaccurate? Tell us that the PPP government has not been involved in dead squad operations with convicted drug dealer Roger Khan and together killed over 400 young black men, extra-judically. Tell us that the PPP government and the Guyana Police have not raided the homes of residence in villages like of Buxton, where they bulldozed entire farm lands and killed a mother of 9, with impunity and not even an apology. Tell us that the PPP government has not been rounding up young black men, without warrants, and has held then without placing them before the courts. Tell us that they have not tortured individuals. Tell us that they have not held a journalist in jail for 5 years without a trial.

    (f) Donโ€™t get me started. I can speak truth to power!


  33. They know too that Barbados relies heavily on tourism and image is important to this. They have concluded that accusations of โ€œethnic cleansingโ€ would hurt Barbadosโ€™ image and economy and because of this fear Barbados will no longer pursue its current immigration policy. How sad!
    ……………………………………….
    Heart of the matter. Jagdeo, Ramphal, Gonzalves and cronies plan to mash up B’dos economy. Their accusations are a tissue of lies.Tens of thousands of Guyanese of all races legal and illegal go about their business working and making a living in Barbados without hindrance. Thompson’s policy is to manage the runaway illegal immigrant problem . Jagdoe and Gonzales with help from Ramphaul hatch a plot to wreck Barbados economy. As loyal Bajans we cannot let this happen. Thompson has the backing of all patriots.


  34. HHundreds of Guyanese waiting to be deported from Canada

    Published on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 Email To Friend Print Version

    GEORGETOWN, Guyana: The Canadian High Commissioner in Guyana, Charles Court, said the waiting list of Guyanese to be deported is about 700 to 800, similar to the number pending deportation to Mexico, Iran and other countries that have larger populations than Guyana.

    โ€œSo it is an important issue in our bi-lateral relationship. I think we can manage that. The High Commission through the Canadian Fund for Local Initiatives has helped to set up an NGO with the aim of helping reintegrate deportees.โ€

    In a strong tone, the High Commissioner pointed out that the โ€˜bottom lineโ€™ remains that once Guyanese living abroad or citizens of any other country violate the law and serve their sentences, it is up to their countries to accept them back into society.

    โ€œThat is the legal fact of the matter. It is a difficult issue but we all have our responsibilities in it and we will certainly live up to ours,โ€ Court said.

    But President Bharrat Jagdeo on Monday said that he finds it strange that Canada would accept refugees from Guyana but at the same time deport people to the same country that generates refugees.

    Speaking at a press conference yesterday afternoon, the Head of State said that while there have been several bilateral engagements on the issue with Canada; he has heard arguments that the Executive does not have control over the bodies that make such decisions.

    He, however, added that when the judiciary in Guyana makes its independent decision, he, as the Head of State, is held responsible for the decisions.

    โ€œDonโ€™t you find it a little illogical, a bit not right? They can always argue that they donโ€™t control the various bodies in Canada that make these decisionsโ€ฆbut you bet, if anything goes wrong in our courts here, they expect the President to answer for that.โ€

    The President said that the various ambassadors often engage him in discussions about such issues, and at the same time expect him to act and fix such issues.

    He added that Guyana does have a close relationship with Canada. โ€œWe will be working to see how we can facilitate some people coming back. Some of these are immigration-type deporteesโ€ฆThere has been some movement in that category
    ere is the Problem.


  35. The comments attributed to Bharat Jagdeo are indeed sad. To use the refugee status of some of his fellow country men to question Canada’s deportation of another set of Guyanese,make Jagdeo look really insensitive. He then goes on to question the inner working of Canada’s government structure. When will it end?

    @ Rickford Burke, really what is there to be proud of Guyana for? Not hiding the fact that you are Guyanese is one thing, but to be a proud, given your dissertation of all things wrong in Guyana, whey de pride coming from?


  36. PAMPALAM! Rickford yuh meet yuh meetuh in Adrian. Yuh cork duck this time with your nonsense of being proud of Guyana, too much Banks Beer caused you to trip up. These Barbadians on top of the issues, and they are not foolish like Guyanese, now no one will take you seriously on this this blog


  37. Anon please don’t attempt to speak on my behalf. Rickford makes a lot of sense, and I will continue to read his opinions and those of A Mr. Kissoon.

    ….Rickford or anyone else of Guyanese ancenstry living in the US. Can you identify any US base guyanese organization that is managed by and has as members, both Afric and Indic guyanese?


  38. Itโ€™s a pity that โ€œTheswaneeโ€ didnโ€™t supply a link to the article which seems to have been partially reproduced here. However I find this sentence very interesting โ€œBut President Bharrat Jagdeo on Monday said that he finds it strange that Canada would accept refugees from Guyana but at the same time deport people to the same country that generates refugeesโ€

    Now Iโ€™m not sure if the folks on these pages recognize the significance of those remarks but the Jagdeo is admitting that citizens from his country apply and are applying for permission to reside in Canada as refugees. One would ask what reasons are they providing for their claims, according to the Geneva Convention a refugee is classified as the following โ€œA refugee is a person who “owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group, or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to or, owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country…”

    Do the citizens of Guyana who apply for refugee status in Canada fall into those categories or are they โ€œeconomic refugeesโ€ just trying to get a better life? When Forbes Burnham was leading the Guyanese Govโ€™t many Guyanese of East Indian descent applied for refugee status in Canada on the grounds of โ€œpolitical persecution and violenceโ€; somehow I donโ€™t think that Jagdeo is talking about 20/25 years ago when he speaks about Canada acceptance of Guyanese refugees; he is speaking in todayโ€™s context. Apart from Cubans and Haitians I donโ€™t think that citizens of any other โ€œCaribbeanโ€ country apply for refugee status in any country.

    This leaves me to conclude that if the reason provided is political persecution/race/social group then Jagdeo has made a tacit admission as to the veracity of the McDougall Report? Of course some applicants lie and the reason may be purely economic, which is more reason for Jagdeo to hop on his soap box and decry the immigration crack down announced by the Barbados Govโ€™t. since his citizens will avail themselves of any and all opportunities to flee for a better life.

    In any event Jagdeo with the assistance of the other political leaders/columnists and regional mandarins both current and former e.g. Bourne/ Ramphal will try to pressure the Barbados Govโ€™t but his pouting will have no bearing on the Canadian Govโ€™t.

  39. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Tell us what aspect of the Mc Dougall report is inaccurate? Tell us that the PPP government has not been involved in dead squad operations with convicted drug dealer Roger Khan and together killed over 400 young black men, extra-judically. Tell us that the PPP government and the Guyana Police have not raided the homes of residence in villages like of Buxton, where they bulldozed entire farm lands and killed a mother of 9, with impunity and not even an apology. Tell us that the PPP government has not been rounding up young black men, without warrants, and has held then without placing them before the courts. Tell us that they have not tortured individuals. Tell us that they have not held a journalist in jail for 5 years without a trial.
    ************************************
    Rickforde, the GOG’s response to the Mc Dougall’s report dealt extensively with the inaccuracies etc so I have no need to be repeating it in an effort to get through your greasy head.
    It was the U.S who alleged that RK’s gang was responsible for the death of 200 not 400 “persons”, but somehow, being the anti-government prostitute that you are you managed to change “persons” to “young black men”. On another note, it was also the same U.S who alleged that Iraq under the rule of Saddam Hussein possessed WMDs!

    The farm lands that you referred to were actually huge swats of densely overgrown bush. And the government actually made it easier for the few farmers that actually farmed the lands by clearing it of vegetation, providing them with farming tools as well as monetary compensation for what ever crops that existed prior to the clearing exercise.

    Burke, it is also useful to note that the raiding of these villages by law enforcement officers usually unearthed high powered weapons along with ammunition and military attire, some that were stolen from the GDF in an effort to arm those “Freedom Fighters/Bandits” who were given solace in those very villages you referred to. Where do you expect police raids to be conducted ?

    It would also be nice if you could tell us what would’ve been your colleague’s fate if he had presided over the storming of P.M Thompson’s Office or perhaps the White House?

    As I stated earlier, every country has a right to determine who it wants and doesn’t. If Guyanese chose to use means that are illegal in an effort to remain in Barbados then they have to face the consequences of such actions as is prescribed in the Laws of Barbados.

    I do have a problem however, when publicity prostitutes such as Burke and those of his ilk seek to attribute policies (or lack of) by the GOG as being the cause/causes of the flight these Guyanese from their homeland rather unfairly. Burke knows fully well the level of destruction heaped on Guyana, in and outside of office, by his party, hence, he should be a bit appreciative of the little strides that have been made. It is within this context that Burke should be reminded of Hoyte’s prediction upon the PPP’s ascent to office 1992, that Guyana would collapse in 6 months.


  40. Sargeant I touch on that very same statement a couple post above. Have you been able to find the actual article? I would like to link back to it. Adherance to the truth and denial of ones words and actions are to my mind national pastimes in Guyana.


  41. Sargeant I found that following, but the statemen in question is not there…..still searching.

    [quote]
    800 Guyanese to be deported from Canada
    January 16, 2009 | By knews | Filed Under News

    Canada
    By Tusika Martin

    Some 800 Guyanese are awaiting deportation from Canada, High Commissioner Charles Court said yesterday.
    The Canadian High Commissioner said that during his two years thus far as High Commissioner to Guyana, about 160 Guyanese have been deported.
    According to him, less than five percent of those deportees have criminal code convictions in Canada.
    He noted that while the waiting list of Guyanese to be deported is about 700 to 800, it is in the same league of persons pending deportation to Mexico, Iran and other countries that have larger populations than Guyana.
    โ€œSo it is an important issue in our bi-lateral relationship. I think we can manage that. The High Commission through the Canadian Fund for Local Initiatives has helped to set up an NGO with the aim of helping reintegrate deportees.โ€
    That organization in Guyana, he added, has been up and running for about 18 months now.
    โ€œThe last time we checked they had about 60 persons who went to them. They are now looking at working at some other organizations to make the best use of already existing facilities to help returnees.โ€
    In a strong tone, the High Commissioner pointed out that the โ€˜bottom lineโ€™ remains that once Guyanese living abroad or citizens of any other country violate the law and serve their sentences, it is up to their countries to accept them back into society.
    โ€œThat is the legal fact of the matter. It is a difficult issue but we all have our responsibilities in it and we will certainly live up to ours,โ€ Court said.
    During a press conference last week, President Bharrat Jagdeo had reiterated that the problem of deportees was a challenge.
    He was at the time lauding the Customs Anti Narcotics Unit for its successful collaboration with international agencies in the recent drug bust in the United States and Canada.
    The Head of State also pointed to the double standards of developed countries as these relate to the drug fight across the world. He called such double standards counter productive.
    โ€œThey lecture us on drugs and want us to fight drug trafficking more but when you look at the list of people that get sent back, often it is a long list of drug traffickers.โ€
    According to a report by the United Nations High Commission on refugees, the issue of criminal deportees has been a source of tension between the United States and Guyana. Guyanaโ€™s refusal to accept criminal deportees had even led the United States to ban the issuance of visas to Guyanese government officials and their families in late 2001.
    That ban was lifted once Guyana agreed to accept 100 deportees in 2004.
    In 2003, the United States deported 379 Guyanese and of these individuals, 38 were refused entry at the border; and 135 had been convicted for drug-related and other serious offences.
    President Jagdeo has always expressed concerns about the return of criminal deportees, many of whom the police believe have introduced new levels of violence in the commission of crimes such as kidnapping, which has seen an alarming increase in recent years.
    Sports

    ————————————————

    Wunnuh think all them drug trafficking deportees will stay in Guyana? Watch the infestation spread across the island chain.


  42. Ok Sargeant I found it:

    [quote]Bilateral engagements continue to address deportation of Guyanese from Canada
    Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:00
    โ€“ President Jagdeo

    Guyanaโ€™s Head of State President Bharrat Jagdeo has confirmed that there have been several bilateral engagements regarding the deportation of Guyanese and these continue with Canada.

    In response to a question posed by a media operative on this issue, at a press conference yesterday, the President stated that he โ€œfinds it strange that Canada would accept refugees from Guyana and then want to send back people to a country that generates refugees.โ€
    โ€œDonโ€™t you find it a little illogical, a bit not-right? They can always argue and I have heard this argument that they donโ€™t control the different bodies in Canada that make these decisions, the different courts sometimes but you bet if anything goes wrong in our courts here they expect the President to answer for that I have to answer for even decisions that are made independently in the court,โ€ he stated.
    President Jagdeo noted that when a decision is then made that they may not be pleased with, the Ambassadors of the countries would seek his assistance to โ€œfixโ€ these issues. โ€œThe same should apply in this case so I would urge you to ask that question and not take as an excuse that these things are done by so-called independent agencies over which the Executive has no control because when it is on the other foot they expect us to have some control or to correct this situation,โ€ President Jagdeo stated.
    The President nevertheless noted that Guyana and Canada share a close relationship and that they will be working toward facilitating some Guyanese returning. โ€œI gathered that there are some people who want to leave, there are immigration-type deportees who have had problems with immigration and they want to come back home so I think that there has been some movement in that particular category.โ€
    Recently Canadian High Commissioner, Charles Court had stated that there are approximately 700 to 800 Guyanese waiting to be deported to Guyana. Since his appointment to Guyana he noted that there were 160 Guyanese who were deported and less than five percent of them have criminal records.
    This has been an issue that President Jagdeo has been tabling for a number of years with Canada and the United States of America. The Presidentโ€™s contention is that the return of criminal deportees, based on police reports, has introduced new levels of violence in the commission of crimes such as kidnapping. [/quote]

    http://opnew.op.gov.gy/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=412:bilateral-engagements-continue-to-address-deportation-of-guyanese-from-canada


  43. AH

    I was unable to locate the article. perhaps “Theswanee “could forward the link


  44. Sargeant // July 7, 2009 at 10:35 am

    AH

    I was unable to locate the article. perhaps โ€œTheswanee โ€œcould forward the link

    ——————————————-
    I place your comments Sargeant // July 7, 2009 at 9:35 am on the Norman Girvin blog under Ramphal speech and it was removed. Indeed I had five replys there and they have been condense down to two. All my words are still there although they do not flow as I had intended. I guess I am to be thankful as a little bajan PLEB, to have my words though somewhat altered still appear amongst those of the Fifedoms academics and elitists. ha ha ha lol!

  45. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    The McDougall report is fair, factual and evidence based. It has complete credibility as it captures the essence of the Guyanese polity, governance and life. We know that everyone who exposes or condemns PPP racism is called a โ€œracistโ€ by the very โ€œindignant racistโ€ themselves. We expect this. Thatโ€™s what they even called Martin Luther King, Jr. and Nelson Mandela. Nevertheless, I suggest that you guys stop hating the messenger. She didnโ€™t create the perilous conditions in Guyana. She merely described them. Stop the racism and discrimination and then the message will change.
    **************************************
    Rickford Burps Again! It was Mc Dougall’s methodology that rendered her report questionable. It is obvious that if she spoke to you and some of your cronies she’d come up with a report similar to one of your press releases. If she spoke to those that were perceived to be victimized wasn’t it logical that she also speak to those that were perceived to be the beneficiaries? Yet she didn’t!


  46. Randy Persaud a Guyanese indic who went to York public university of Canada, a higher learning institute that is less than 60 years old, is given prominence for his pro Guyana government opinions. Contrast with Mrs Gay McDogall an American Afric who attended Yale universtiy, working for the UN is not accorded any respect for opinions that most Guyanese INDICS agree with. Guyanese Africs say the current government marginalizes them, and the Guyanese Indics say that they are benficiaries of the current government. The UN report is not incorrect, and it does not differ much from the Herdmanston accord of 1998.

  47. Proud Guyanese Avatar
    Proud Guyanese

    Insufferable โ€˜Powerโ€™ Stampede

    โ€˜Political self-interest, not the peopleโ€™s interests, is marring the political and developmental life of this nation; the constant humbug of unscrupulous demands for changes in electoral rules and systems; the relentless and selfish haggling over shared governance; the predictable election writs; unyielding bickering over constitutional reform; media distortions; the race card; and yes! The street protests over the years, among others, are what Guyanese have come to expect from those who live off politicsโ€™
    POLITICAL self-interest, not the peopleโ€™s interests, is marring the political and developmental life of this nation; the constant humbug of unscrupulous demands for changes in electoral rules and systems; the relentless and selfish haggling over shared governance; the predictable election writs; unyielding bickering over constitutional reform; media distortions; the race card; and yes! The street protests over the years, among others, are what Guyanese have come to expect from those who live off politics.

    And then, we have political commentators from the dailies and television who brandish an opportunistic brand of self-interest. The commentators would invariably admonish the PPP/C government for โ€˜messing upโ€™ on democracy and freedom, and tell the government how bad things are because Guyana, according to their reasoning, has an โ€˜elected dictatorshipโ€™ within a โ€˜general autocracyโ€™ framework, among other evils.

    โ€˜The scramble for power is an ugly sight in Guyana. Everything else takes second place in this insufferable โ€˜powerโ€™ stampede; creating in its scurrilous path a charade of unscrupulous demands. But the people have the power to end this political nuisance; a political tragedy in some senseโ€™

    But applications of concepts like โ€˜democracyโ€™ and โ€˜freedomโ€™ do not only tell us how things are functioning, good or bad, but also how they should work. Clearly then, these commentatorsโ€™ approach is faulty, in that they reason solely on how bad things are, without addressing substantively the โ€˜howโ€™ part of the equation to make things better; in terms of what the right political system is; and their prescriptions for the right political system, generally, are mere sloganeering statements; they have to do better than that. And just as well, they should know that the correct way of coming up with the right political system is not always achievable through reason alone; for that also could be partisan reasoning.

    Consider a sample of these commentatorsโ€™ opinions: Guyana is an elected dictatorship; the Guyana Government has a mendicant behaviour; Guyana is an ethnocracy; the Guyana government is an authoritarian regime; the Guyana government has a record of human rights violations, and so on.

    And clearly, these commentatorsโ€™ opinions could favour the interests of particular groups, like for instance, bureaucrats, aristocrats, middle-class entrepreneurs, workers, and opportunistic ideologues. But then, how do we know which is the correct opinion? And how do we know that we do not have a partisan group projecting this opinion?

    According to Mannheim, the ideas coming out of such groups would generally come from intellectuals, who would then promote their ideas to groups most sympathetic to them. And so, such intellectuals could affix themselves to any group that favours their ideas; they would be like โ€˜free-floatingโ€™ people; a powerful ingredient for the onset of political opportunism and partisan behaviour.

    Perhaps, we should put this theory to the test and see if any political commentator from the dailies/TV, whose opinion may be at variance with that of the Government, would accept a political offer from this Administration. And these commentators, including their political sidekicks (and indeed, the offer should go to them too), who almost always claim that this Government is not good for Guyana, producing little development for this country. Well, is this the case?

    Think for a moment about the PPP/C Administrationโ€™s record since 1992, amid an unenviable legacy of economic failures and the absence of fundamental human rights. Here is a small sample of achievements:

    Guyana is free; Presidentโ€™s powers reduced; Opposition participation through parliamentary sectoral committees, parliamentary management committee, standing committee on constitutional reform; oversight committee, Public Accounts Committee, constitutional commissions, the Presidentโ€™s consultation with Leader of the Opposition on some appointments; Berbice River Bridge; Takatu Bridge; Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) now US$71 million for 1993 through 2005, compared to US$2.6 million between 1982 and 1992; sustained macroeconomic stability through reduced inflation now 8%, compared to 101% in 1991; reduced interest rates, stable exchange rate, consistently reduced budget and balance of payments deficits; increased per capita income now US$900 compared to US$231 in 1991; increased disposable incomes evidenced through the importation of 85,000 motor cars, etc.; increased minimum wage now US$124 compared to US$22 in 1991; increased production in all agricultural sectors; growing service industries; upgrading of CJIA and Ogle airports; housing boom โ€“ 70,000 house lots, 35,000 titles, 7% mortgage interest rate; 85% access to water compared to 40% in 1992; increased CXC performance now 80%, compared to 47% in 1991; university education expanded into Berbice; more trained teachers, now 56% compared to 35% in 1991; greater secondary school enrolment now 72% compared to 35% in 1991; 84 new schools built; health physical infrastructures rebuilt โ€“ new hospitals at New Amsterdam, Georgetown, and Kamarang; high immunization rates among children now 95% compared to 65% in 1991; Infant Mortality Rate now 48 per 1,000 compared to 120 per 1,000 in 1991; maternal mortality rate now 11 per 1,000 compared to 34 per 1,000 in 1991; Prevention of Mother-to-Child Transmission of HIV/AIDS now with 73 sites; the 1951 Amerindian Act revised; 50 Amerindian communities obtained titles and demarcation.

    Do these achievements not matter? And are they not part of sustainable development? How credible are these political commentatorsโ€™ opinions from the dailies/TV and the opinions of those politicians who live off politics. Look! We can argue that there should be more development, but simultaneously, we need to acknowledge that the content in the preceding BOX is a living reality.

    I have no doubt that this country, as part of its political mix, has a community of irrationality, inclusive of politicians, who live off politics, political commentators from the dailies/TV, and the hate literati; they present their thinking as substantive, and arrogantly attempt to influence the masses of ordinary Guyanese to subordinate themselves to their thinking; undoubtedly, an insult to the integrity of all Guyanese.

    And it is this community, not the ordinary people, who sees this country as having miniscule development, governed by an authoritarian regime, and burdened with an ethnocracy. The scramble for power is an ugly sight in Guyana. Everything else takes second place in this insufferable โ€˜powerโ€™ stampede; creating in its scurrilous path a charade of unscrupulous demands. But the people have the power to end this political nuisance, a political tragedy in some sense.


  48. Then why are people leaving Guyana at the risk of making themselves a nuisance in other countries? Why is the deportation rate so high for Guyanese from the US, Canada, Barbados etc?


  49. AH

    I place your comments Sargeant // July 7, 2009 at 9:35 am on the Norman Girvin blog under Ramphal speech and it was removed
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    Donโ€™t know why they would censor the comments, my observation was based on the evidence available for all. Guess Girvan has his agenda and the truth hurts.

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    Rickford Burke

    Adrian,

    There are very few Guyanese organizations with mixed Indo, Afro membership. One stands out most – the Guyana Cultural Association.

    Ignore the ramblings of “Proud Guyanese.” He is the Pro-Chancellor of the University of Guyana and Communications Advisor to President Jagdeo. This gives you an insight into how corrupt they are.

    Where else in the world will you find the head of the state University being a leading member of the ruling party, who publicly defends its policies and practices, all while collecting another salary as the PR advisor to the President of that country?

    His diatribe about Ms. Gay McDougall reflects the characteristic contempt the masters of Guyanaโ€™s ethnocracy have for blacks. Had she been Caucasian, she might have been worshiped.

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