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BLPThe opposition party should naturally take a principled position on some issues, when they are part of their core beliefs or what makes them the Party they are. Consideration should also be given to tactics, pragmatism, strategy and most importantly what is in the country’s best interest…in the short and long term.  In recent months have the aforementioned positions been adopted by The Barbados Labour Party? I am not sure they have.  This submission is not a “critique” it is a personal observation and I am sure others will have a different perception of events.  However, since I have raised the subject, the onus is on me to justify my position.

The DLP Government introduced free travel for school children.  In the present economic climate it is difficult to see how such a policy could be disadvantageous to those for whom it was intended.  A spin off from this initiative was the “perceived” influence travelling on ZR’s was having on young minds and the behaviour that ensued.  There are those who will argue this supposed ZR culture is part of today’s society and school children not travelling on ZR’s will have no or a negligible impact on their behaviour…I will not contest that view now.

The opposition’s position…as I understood it was that the money could be better spent in other areas, and was a waste of the Government’s resources.  Money can always be otherwise disposed of, you have to identify a specific area and then balance the benefits from that disposal against the free travel for school children, to make a reasonable case to the electorate.  If you fail to do that or cannot because of the evident benefits of the initiative…it is best not to oppose.

Now I come to the most contentious policy of all, which can have long term ramifications for The Barbados Labour Party: illegal immigration.  That a country should seek to document and account for all citizens within its borders is not only common sense, it is a necessity, a failure to do so would be a dereliction of duty.  How can forward planning be properly conducted? That a previous administration failed to do so is no reason for the present one to do the same.

The Barbados Labour Party made a number of cardinal blunders on this issue.  In the first instance they gave the impression there was no problem, but there obviously was and it was forced into the nation’s consciousness by the people.  Who in some instances had been denied an outlet in certain major media outlets…to be frank they were being thwarted.

There have been only a few instances where a blog – Barbados Underground – has been able to force such an issue into the body politic of a nation…it was the people against the odds and a Government that was listening.

The Government in a stroke of genius and common sense took the bold decision to set up a committee – some thought David Thompson was prevaricating – whose proposals now to be implemented wrong footed the opposition.

The Barbados Labour Party was left in a solitary position of castigating its electorate, or appeared to be and seeking support from the utterances of Barat Jagdeo of Guyana, a Prime Minister whose competence is still open to question by most Barbadians.  Some commentators on BU who have identified themselves as BLP supporters, and to be fair I have no knowledge if they are officials of the Party or delegated to represent it.  However, they constantly make the point that Professor x or Professor y has said this or that, so we should follow.

We always respect scholarship and education in Barbados, more so from eminent scholars in various fields of endeavour, but if “education” is to mean anything we should be able to analyse and think for ourselves and to know “why” we have arrived at a decision after studying “all” the evidence available.  That is what real education is about, to constantly harp on about certain Professors in an effort to stifle debate or undermine free thinking people, shows a lack of human understanding and how to positively interact with others.

I believe The Barbados Labour Party has chosen to oppose when it was not necessary to do so, thus giving the impression “erroneously” that Barbadians have a second place in their thoughts.

A balanced position would have been: we understand what the Government is doing and why they are doing it, we do not object in principle but there are certain issues relating to the overall policy we would have handled differently.  It is quite obvious some will say if they do not believe the above, why should they say it?

I say time will be the final “arbiter” in this issue and I contend it is not  wise for the opposition Party to “always” oppose.


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  1. I would figure that after 42 years of Independence, we would have matured as a Nation. This particular debate, has shown the immaturity in our people, especially our politicians. It still boggles the mind how politicians and ardent supporters of the opposition party could argue that destablising the country through the influx of illegal people is best for this nation. To me the leader of the BLP is so hungry for power that she would do ANYTHING to pull down the ruling party and in so doing pull down Barbados or it has not yet sunk in that her party has lost the last election. Whichever way, it throws the BLP in a bad light and if this constant behaviour continues, the party is doomed and will be in the political wilderness for a long time.


  2. So tell me Scout, if all that you say is true ,What then does your party have to fear?


  3. There is a view the job of the Opposition is to oppose. If this is so does it not negate the benefit of those times when national consensus is required? Isn’t there a time when as a country we MUST speak with one voice?


  4. One of the major problems with the BLP is that it had taken the people for granted i.e..it has separated itself from the people, the same electorate that granted them the temporary ‘power.’ It saw itself as no longer having to answer to a ‘negrocratic’ populace which they thought was incapable of independent thinking. This Party seems to be loyal to self-interest, sell off the country to ‘all and sundry’ and call it development. Allowing the influx of immigrants to reach boiling point today and then criticise the present PM for trying to rectify the problem, should be noted by the people as traitorous. And should the DLP too betray the people they should suffer the same fate. Politicians should be reminded that they are SERVANTS and not MASTERS!

  5. Wishing in Vain Avatar
    Wishing in Vain

    Was it not the former Prime Minister who made a point of hiring Guyanese workers at the expense of Barbadian workers??

    It would appear to me to that from very early on the BLP had little concern about what was right or what was good for Barbados.


  6. The usual rot from Yardbroom as he seeks to promote the DLP!

    The transport of school children is not “free”. It is paid for by taxes. We either pay individually at the point of service or we pay collectively and indirectly. It is always proper to make a cost-benefit analysis of options. The argument that it was necessary to remove children from the influence of ZRs suggests that the ZRs are a power unto themselves and that Gov’t is powerless to do anything about their unruly behaviour. It is proper and critical that the opposition attempt to prod the Gov’t to show that claimed benefits outweigh the costs. Further it is always useful to consider alternative approaches to identified problems.

    I firmly believe that the illegal immigration issue is all smoke and mirrors. I contend in the absence of data that there is no problem. The Gov’t has provided no assessment of their numbers or the actual(not perceived) impact of illegal immigrants on jobs or social services. All of the arguments have been presented by proxies (blogs, call-in programmes, letters to the newspaper etc) but official reports (i.e from Government ministries, departments, the Police etc) are notably absent. There are illegal immigrants and it is the responsibility of Gov’t to enforce the laws and remove such persons. However, the impression given is that the recently stated measures create a precedent. This is not so. As David Commissiong points out there was a policy on illegal immigrants in place before. The new policy differs in the time periods for consideration of regularization and introduces an amnesty for six months. Again it is for the opposition to question the need to vary the former approach and to place the issue in the context of the CSME and the concept of a CARICOM community with free movement of people. It is for Gov’t to explain the motivation for the new policy and to explicitly detail its position on CARICOM.

    Yardbroom in his blinkered view would wish the BLP to rubber stamp the Gov’t policies especially those that have a populist flavour. It is in fact a responsible, courageous and loyal Opposition that presents alternative views, highlights possible problems and consequences and hopefully make Gov’t accountable to the people. The BLP is thus behaving more responsibly than the DLP which when in opposition simply bid its time for many years, waiting for the then administration to falter and thus claim the prize.


  7. I agree with you, Anonymous. The failure of an opposition party to present alternative viewpoints if it so desires woulkd be the death of democracy. I am not saying that there may not be times when partisan views collide, but that should be a matter for determination by the Opposition. In spite of its popularity on this blog, this entire so-called policy of the Government is based on little more than popular perception…


  8. @Themis

    All may agree to what you have written to a point. How does an opposition determine when partisan views should collide?


  9. @David,

    That surely is a matter for the sole judgment of the Oposition and the coincidence of the government’s views with what the Opposition holds to be its philosophy.


  10. Who determines policy for BU?, when to support government and when not to also when to determine the agenda for the BLP opposition and when not to?

    Who determines when to rip apart persons on the BU blog and when not to?


  11. Let us make sure we are following you clearly.

    The views of the opposition party are purely autonomous and has no relationship to feedback provided by the people it serves?

    You use the analogy of who sets BU agenda to support your point. The truth is feedback from the BU family has shaped many decisions and flavoured the agenda taken by BU.

    See the point we are making?


  12. @ David

    I am not so sure I see your point. Is there a BU view other than yours on anything? Or do you count the submissions and the majority determine the BU view. No, an Opposition party’s executive must set the policy and offer alternatives…if a majority of the electorate are not in favour, then so be it. Was Wilberforce and the abolitionists in the majority? Or those whites against apartheid in South Africa?


  13. What’s wrong with the public shouldering the transportation cost of school children? Or would you rather the public be burdened with the health care cost for ‘illegal immigrants?’

    For someone to firmly believe that the illegal immigration issue is all smoke and mirrors shows that they have no respect for the law and the sovereignty of that 166 sq miles (just by your mention of the word ‘illegal’). What will it take for this issue to become a ‘real’ problem? When they force themselves into your personal space?

    Wasn’t the gov’t elected by the ‘populists’ and shouldn’t they listen to same?

    “Death of Democracy” – the whole idea of democracy is a sham.

    “Popular Perception” carries a lot of weight……isn’t this the driving force in so-called democratic societies?


  14. @David……don’t fall for that bullshit argument about Wiberforce or whites against aparatheid in SA. That’s bait and switch. Don’t fall for it.


  15. Maybe the BLP executives and diehards should go live in Iran. However, in Barbados, the DLP still realise that once the majority of its citizens/electorates are hurting, then the administrators have a duty to rectfy the problem. I still can’t see how sensible peoplecan be so blinded with politics that they can’t see the dangers of the mass influx of illegals in any country especially a small country like Barbados and at this time when there is a global crisis. Somebody is not thinking straight or just out to destablise this country. Bajans are so carefree in their attitude that too many will wait until the problem gets out of hand to do something about it.Right thinking bajans will have more respect for the BLP if they would accept that the immigration problem has escalated and something has to be done about it. They would get some stick for encouraging it or even accept the responsibility but offer alternatives to how it should be dealt with. The BLP’s approach to the problem right now is all wrong and is not in the best interest of Barbados or Barbadians. We have lost all confidence in the BLP party. I can see 5 more years of that party in government would have spelt destruction for Barbados as we know it and our foreparents worked hard to make it. The way these illegals speak, one would think that Barbados was discovered last few years and is now looking for workers to develop the country.

  16. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    I do not know if Yardbroom is B D or P, but his moot that it is not always wise for any opposition to always oppose.

    If the BLP erred in facilitating the efflux of non nationals into our very small country, clearly it is stupid to oppose measures to reverse the thrend.

    The BLP can not be considered seriously if they oppose “free” or convenient transportaion for school children.

    The BLP should carefully chose its battles, and oppose when they are clear indications to oppose.

    Which wise batsman plays at every ball? Which wise batsman attempts to attack every ball….even in a 20/20 game?

    Which wise doctor exhibits medication of some sort to every patient all the time? Wise doctors seek to intervene as necessary. Perhaps the BLP should seek to do the same.

    Surely there are times to oppose and do so with vigor. But also there are times when it is best to “Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is in the power of thine hand to do it.” Proverbs 3:27


  17. G.P
    Silence will always be golden.


  18. Hopi,

    I am not the expert that you are on bullshit, but what’s wrong with the arguments about Wilberforce and apartheid, except that they go against what you are arguing?


  19. Gully Boar
    Which one is my party? Please help me. As far as I know, I’m a bajan and can speak freely about any party


  20. Oh Hopi

    wasn’t Bush elected by “populists”? Where are the weapons of mass destruction?


  21. That’s right because my bullshit goes against your collective enslaving grain.

    Wilberforce and whites in SA have no bearing on what is right for Black people. If we follow your bait ‘n switch one would be misled into believing that Black people did not resist that evil and that it was a minority of whites who stood up. Maybe they are your heroes but not the majority of Black people. So take that cockamamie crap outta hey.

    Which populist elected George Bush?


  22. Hopi, you should change your handle to “Hopeless”. Al I am saying is that Wilberforce and those who stood against apartheid were in an electoral majority…and George Bush was popularly elected…just shows that the majority is not always RIGHT!


  23. “No, an Opposition party’s executive must set the policy and offer alternatives…if a majority of the electorate are not in favour, then so be it.”
    The perfect argument of a TYRANT! And the populace reserves the right to ‘water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.’


  24. OOPS…that should be electoral MINORITY…


  25. George Bush was NEVER popularly elected. And like I said before I do not operate/live by hope, that’s for those who believe.

  26. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    The Scout

    All though we were taught in primary school that “ Silence is golden”, we have come to learn, Im sure that this is not always so.

    We know that there are times, for example when we must speak out to defend ourselves, or in support of the truth or a good cause.

    I have no particular preference for any party, and I hold the view that we need a viable opposition. But any opposition that opposes for opposing sakes will only make themselves look stupid.

    If the current opposition wants to gain credibility they must be silent when there is nothing really negative about a particular action of GOB, and speak out fearlessly when GOB errs.

    I think that is the basic irrefutable point that Yardbroom was making, irregardless to which party any Bajan belongs.


  27. G.P
    It was in that contrxt, that I made that remark.The BLP in their quest for power is digging themselves into a hole. With that mindset, the only way forward for them is to made a total about turn, plus this means finding a new leader to go with the new trend of thought, and that is the most difficult part

  28. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    Scout

    We seem to be on the same page my CP friend! Cant forget your jokes from last year man LOL


  29. We give on the point that the BLP HAS the right to determine its agenda.

    Commonsense says that a political party depends on a popular vote to win governments or remain in government.

    The BLP or any political party if it adopts positions which alienates it from the people what sense does that make?

    One may understand one off policies but to oppose bus fares and now this immigration issue which is a global hot potato, let them carry on smartly.


  30. Your submission raises an important political question, David. Should the political party wait to see which way the wind is blowing and then oppose? Or should it stick to a philosophy and hope to convince the electorate? Or are mere appearances enough? For example, could it truly be said that the DLP is in favour of integrity in government, when they have done nothing after a year and a half to demonstrate this? But most would agree that this was a pivotal issue in the last elections.


  31. Don’t know if a party should appear that ingenious to take positions based on popular opinion.

    Part of being successful in politics is the ability to strategize from a distance.

    For example Obama as far as 2005 and even before had pretensions to run for President of the USA and when he won his seat in the Chicago legislature and then US Senate he abstained from voting on many contentious bills so that he would have less issues to deal with on a political campaign.

    Mia will have to borrow populist views to build strategy while at the same time keeping a BLP core philosophy intact:-)

  32. RIDER on a WALK Avatar
    RIDER on a WALK

    F T BLOGS


  33. “She said they were taken to a prison located behind the Grantley Adams International Airport where she was housed in a cold cell with women who were being held on drug charges and were awaiting a return trip home.”

    This quote came from an interview given by a deported Guyanese woman in the Starbroak Newspaper.
    The full article can be read here
    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/news/local/06/20/deportee-from-barbados-has-lost-hope-in-her-homeland/

    If the opposition wants to support the Guyanese in making Barbados look bad to the world, then that is opposing against the national good. Barbadians are very upset with this level of hypocrisy and no political party will get away with it.


  34. I find it amazing that government supporters can seriously posit this argument that somehow the opposition is wrong to oppose.

    An alternative view is always a good thing for democracy.

    The same way that he can say “he is a bajan and can speak freely about any party”… (even if its to tell them to shut up) the opposition can speak freely about what it sees as germane to good democracy.

    The view that somehow the opposition is unpatriotic, opportunistic, wrongheaded or other wise ill informed to criticise the government is a dangerous mindset and does not bode well for democracy in Barbados.


  35. Anonymous
    Anyone who is interested in elective politics has to be very careful of the issues they support. Mia, is showing that the average bajan electors are no in her best interest. She has taken the high road, therefore if one person who she respects as a acedemics only but the ones that can vote only got the same one vote as the average person she scorns.


  36. Anonymous: There are so many of you I don’t know which one I am replying to.

    The definition for unpatriotic by Thesaurus is: Showing lack of love for your country.

    The opposition should question the decisions of the government, but not reject the government’s authority.

    Barbados opposition should not be giving any kind of support to the lies that are being told across the Caribbean about the immigration policy adopted by the government.

    They should oppose in a constructive way like saying how they would deal with the large number of illegal immigrants in a humane way. They should also tell the President of Guyana that it is a fact that pressure in being put on our social services by these illegal immigrants as were seen when they were in power.

    It was inhumane over the past ten years to have Guyanese citizens living in squalid conditions and paying $125.00 a week.
    Many children were not going to school. The ones that are going say they will pay but owe a lot of money from first form to fifth form.

    Security Firms paying them $5.00 an hour as security guards taking out $34.00 for National Insurance and not paying it in to the scheme so that when they got sick there were no benefits.

    You opposition supporters must wake up and see that all persons making comments are not party hacks. We are logical patriotic bajans.

    You lost the last election because you were not listening to the people and you still doing it. Therefore you will lose again.


  37. Fairplay
    Well said. that party is showing a lot of arrogance, but as someone said earlier, we the voters are the managers of the M.P’s, we give them a 5 yr contract, if they perform well, we will renew it but if you get arrogant we FIRE you. Also if your arrogance is unbearable before the contract time is up, we can fire you prematurely too. The way it looks the other canditate (BLP) who wants the job is not qualified and lacks deportment and is bad mannered. Right now they are not even on the short list for consideration


  38. Apparently, politicians are still banking on the reputed short memory of Bajans.

    When will the ordinary people decide that enough is enough and resist the manipulation of politicians, their minions and lackeys?

    The message needs to be sent to the political class, that we the people have grown weary of this brand of political representation.


  39. To be honest there is no pleasing people. If the sun comes out we moan its too hot and we want rain. If its raining we’re moaning that we want the sun.

    The BLP were in power for years with no real opposition. Aside from the last election, it was a foregone conclusion that the BLP would remain in power.

    Now we have the DLP in power and we have a strong opposition that is trying to make sure they are heard.

    It’s good for people to hear another side of the story and then make their own minds up.


  40. To even suggest opposing the stance by Government with regards to the immigration policy is unpatriotic is ludicrous.

    The adoption/support of policies that are based on emotion and perception rather than fact goes against one of the characteristics of our country of which we are so proud–a highly educated people.


  41. Pearl
    It is one thing to oppose but the opposition party can also in a mature manner be patriotic with offering an alternative to the government’s policy. The manner in which the BLP is functioning is just short of uncaring to the pleas of the average bajan citizen/voter.
    Enuff
    Emotions? When daily bajans are losing their jobs or being threatened by employers to replace them with illegals, you call that emotion and perception? Get real


  42. Scout,

    you are being dishonest and you insult the intelligence of Bajans.

  43. Johnny Postle Avatar

    I am not sure if the BLP fully understand the magnitude of the immigration situation facing Barbadians. The tensions that are being fuel from the influx of persons, legally and illegally, upon the psyche of Barbadians can easily translate in the long run into protest and possible civil unrest. There is a growing notion held by Barbadians that they are being misplaced and put at a significant disadvantage in the name of investment and the type of investors coming to our shores. The Guyanese- labour- investment -initiative is one such investment that was not properly managed in the face of increased numbers. It would be madness for the government of the day not to allay the fears of its Barbadian citizens by not implementing control measures.

    Barbadians are quite cognizant and certainly not blind to the fact that certain groups in society are enjoying the sweets in their easy access to riches whilst others can barely suck salt. A country with a feeling of being marginalized will not take to kindly to policies that put them at a significant disadvantage. Some of the policies of the former government did just that.

    To think to oppose measures to track down illegals on the basis that it could have repercussive effects for the island in the distant future is to disclose the real true agenda of the opposition party. This party in the history of politics have been associated with more alleges of corruption and misbehaviour than any other time in our political history (but I am subject to correction).

    However, both governments in power and in opposition must take full blame and responsibility for the procrastination of the immigration department’s lackdaisical approach to proper accounting mechanisms for visitors coming to our shores and for keeping track of those supposingly not leaving.

    There can be no longer any backward approaches in our system of government but forward thinking that embraces new and improve systems for efficiency and conduct of business.

    I am behooved and more so perplexed at the vulnerability of accounting systems in Barbados which are far too susceptible to sabotage and manipulation. It is my belief that there is an attempt to manipulate the facts of the illegal immigrant status and other matters of consequential significance in this country but to prove this will not be an easy task.

    It is time that both parties recognized for all time, now and in the distant future that in the crux of a crisis, the ugliness of politics cannot always be covered up by innuendo and rhetoric. Sometimes the truth is better than a lie.


  44. @Johnny Postle

    What is the “magnitude of the immigration situation”? Every single person who has entered this country has been documented unless they swan ashore or were hidden away in a container of green heart lumber. Those that have overstayed their time can be found. Barbados is not that big.

    What tensions are you referring to? Who is fueling what (imaginary?) crisis? What concern is there about investors coming to Barbados? The DLP is heading the administration of the country. Who asked that Four Seasons should resume work as soon as possible? Which Government proposes an airport for St.Lucy for small jet aircraft, offshore islands off the west coast and marinas on the south coast? Read the 2008 Budget presentation for answers. Who suggested that bringing Costco (what became of that idea?) and putting Bajan firms out of business was the answer to high food prices? This administration is courting the same pool of investors (both foreign and local) as the previous administration. They are working with the same persons and companies who worked with the previous administration. Isn’t Jada and Rotherly each building office blocks in Warrens in partnership with the NIS?

    Bajans are quite aware of the global economic crisis and its impact on Barbados. The Guyanese or the Chinese or whoever are not being blamed for our problems. However, I am appalled and baffled by the attempts to demonize the Guyanese and in particular the Indo-Guyanese as the source of all our ills by a small in number racist constituency (who I suspect to include ironically Guyanese themselves). Misrepresentations, lies and innuendo about their numbers, involvement in crime, ‘free’ use of social services etc abound. Making common cause with this group of xenophobes are a few self appointed supporters of the DLP who believe that the BLP can be tarnished with a distorted presentation of the situation to the benefit of the DLP. I grow more convinced that the Opposition is right to question the Government’s motivation in allowing the hype to be generated about illegal immigrants if not to score political points and to distract us from the real problems of the day.


  45. @ anonymous June 20, 2009 at 6:49pm

    quote…” I find it amazing that government supporters can seriously posit this argument that somehow the opposition is wrong to oppose”..

    I had to reread what I had written to be quite sure the above quote was not true.

    To ensure there was no evidence to confuse “Always” was highlighted, of course the opposition should oppose when necessary.

    I am tempted to say anonymous is being mischievous.

    The BLP continues to fight the last election; they should move on. They cannot accept they were beaten and to justify this position of being right, they blame the electorate for their defeat…this should not be the strategy of a party which seeks to govern.


  46. anonymous @6:49 is not as mischievous as Yardbroom who would wish the Opposition to default on its constitutionally required duty to critique all Government policy.


  47. anonymous @6:49 is not as mischievous as Yardbroom who would wish the Opposition to default on its constitutionally required duty to critique all Government policy.

    There is a subtlety in the argument by Yardbroom which is being missed deliberately or otherwise. ll that is being tabled is that there will be issues which spawn a national interest which commonsense dictates should subsume a political partisan position. If the BLP as is their right get it wrong they will obviously suffer the fallout. In the meantime it is healthy in a democracy to debate the issue which can only help the opposition to reframe positions already taken. What is wrong with with this approach? We are all Bajans are we not?


  48. What do you want from the opposition that you are not getting ?
    Are you that interested in its survival?
    Should they be silenced?
    Are there any issues which require their
    blessings and do you want them to form the government next term?


  49. I find this concern about the Opposition all very touching. I couldn’t care less about any political party. The BLP was once reduced to 3 seats in parliament and went on to form the Government. The DLP was reduced to 2 seats and is now heading the Government. The fortunes of parties fluctuate. My abiding concern is that for any given issue ALL opinions and viewpoints be heard: the good, the bad, the unreasonable. It is the tactic of despots to decry opposing views as “treasonous”, “unpatriotic” or to subtly suggest that the survival of a political party is really more important than robust unfettered debate of a free people.

    I love Barbados for a being a place that I can express my opinion and get lambasted for it and still get my daily bread. May that be always so.


  50. @ Gully Boar June 21, 2009 at 11:09 am

    Quote: “What do you want from the opposition?”

    To be effective and to be seen as such.

    ” Are you interested in its survival.”

    Yes, most definitely, because in a healthy democracy it is best when the opposition is effective.

    Should they be silenced?

    Definitely not.

    (I have broken this question into two parts)

    ” Are there any issues which require their blessings?

    I would say not their blessings, but a concentration on the facts: Illegal immigration.

    “Do you want them to form the next Government?

    That is for the majority Barbados electorate to decide.

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