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Rickey Singh
Rickey Singh

Prime Minister David Thompson promised when he assumed office that he would established a Cabinet sub-committee to investigate the Immigration problem which was visibly evident in Barbados.  In keeping with his promise he issued a Ministerial Statement last week which focused on a new policy to tackle the problem. The issue of immigration is one being battled all over the world, Barbados no exception. Since issuing the statement all hell has broken lose with the most pointed yet covert attack coming from Prime Minister of St. Vincent Ralph Gonzales who elected to issue his own Ministerial Statement in response.

Prime Minister David Thompson although a rookie Prime Minister is a seasoned politician, and we are confident that he will make the right moves to protect the borders of Barbados and by extension the well being of the society which Barbadians have laboured to build in a post independence era.

Prime Minister Patrick Manning had earlier requested a CARICOM Heads of Summit to discuss the global financial crisis but we

Roxanne Gibbs - Executive Editor Nation Newspaper
Roxanne Gibbs

suspect that a lot of the time will be spent addressing the decision by the Barbados government to document immigrants. Already Prime Minister David Thompson can expect that Prime Minister Gonzalves et al will be frothing  at the mouth come Sunday in Trinidad to attack the government of Barbados’ decision to arrest the large number of undocumented workers in Barbados. It was yesterday we read Secretary General Edwin Carrington of CARICOM suggesting that the matter will be discussed. He was at pains to point out that member countries in CARICOM had a right to make decisions with respect to sovereignty but he was concerned with how they do it. This we consider to be a most inappropriate comment even before this matter has been discussed given the obvious inference to Barbados.

For those who accuse Barbados of adopting an anti-CSME posture historical events disprove this notion. Was it not Barbados which the late Prime Minister Eugenia Charles turned to mobilize support to rescue Grenada when the New Jewel Movement imploded in 1983? Prime Minister Tom Adams responded without hesitation. What about the CARICOM Multilateral Clearing

David Commissiong
David Commissiong

Facility? This was an arrangement between Central Banks of the region to settle payments where the net surplus of one country could be used to offset a deficit it had with another country. Can anyone guess what happened? Barbados was left owed millions by Guyana and other countries. Not sure if the Barbados government has written the amount off. The point is Barbados remained faithful to the facility to the end while others jumped ship. Was there a furore when the OECS sub-region announced an alliance recently with Trinidad to establish a political and economic union? Wasn’t that a clear threat to the CSME movement? The current global economic crisis seems to have put that arrangement on ice for the moment.

The point is Barbados in our brief post-independence period has continued to demonstrate commitment to the ideals of CARICOM integration in the past and in the present.

Minister Maxine McClean when she had responsibility for immigration publicly acknowledged that her best estimate was that we had about thirty thousand Guyanese alone in Barbados. She indicated that the tracking system at the Immigration Department was poor and it had taken a lot of effort to determine the number of legal and illegal immigrants in Barbados.

Guyana Consul to Barbados Norman Faria
Norman Faria

Minister McClean’s admission is instructive because it came against a background of Mia Mottley’s refusal to address the issue when she had responsibility for Home Affairs when in government. Barbadians have always shown quiet concern at the large numbers of immigrants flowing into Barbados. BU can safely say it is what prompted us to blog about the open immigration policy of the previous government. At the same time Guyana Consul Norman Faria on several occasions when pointedly asked about the number of Guyanese immigrants who were flowing into Barbados commented to the effect that it was for the government to speak to that issue. The PEOPLE waited in vain.

For almost a decade the Owen Arthur government, the media and others in Barbados frustrated all attempts to broach concerns about the obvious open door immigration policy. Callers to the radio shows especially Voice of Barbados were unceremoniously censored, the Nation Newspaper published only soft stories about immigration. The fact that the Chief Editor Roxanne Gibbs at the Nation Newspaper is of Guyanese extraction speaks to credibility and she should be fired over how she has manipulated the Nation coverage of the immigration issue.

Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley
Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley

To our surprise the Mia Mottley led opposition has publicly opposed the government’s effort to beef up the immigration system to plug the big hole left by them. Not one BLP Member of Parliament has broken ranks on this issue. The PEOPLE will remember their actions for sure. Even if we used the argument by the BLP that if Barbados is to expand GDP it will need to increase labour capacity, how can that argument apply at this time when our economy has been forced to contract against the global economic crisis? We will not dignify David Commisong and his tribe with too much of a response. They have long ago lost credibility over the Ghanaian affair. Their actions to frustrate the government in that episode has probably resulted in a few Ghanaians still on the run in Barbados.

All across the Caribbean, Bahamas, Antigua, Trinidad, Jamaica, Dominican Republic and others have been deporting illegals but our regional journalist Rickey Singh has been silent. Barbados a tiny country attempts to secure its borders and protect the infrastructure which has made it attractive to the immigrants in the first instance and Singh and his cohorts Peter Wickhan, Annahlee Davis, David Commisong et al grab their foghorns. Funny thing, in all the countries mentioned above the opposition parties and key stakeholders have been mostly supportive of their respective governments actions. It was seen as a national issue and not one to play politics. We want to ask the Bajan Blogosphere to rally around Prime Minister as he fights the diabolical forces in our midst.

For BU the legacy of the media and the Barbados Labour Party in the last ten years will be how they created the monster which Prime Minister David Thompson has to wrestle back into the cage. To compound the problem they had a chance to make amends by supporting the government and PEOPLE of Barbados in the struggle but elected not to risk dismantling the legacy of former Prime Minister Owen Arthur.


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  1. The victim role is being played out by the Indo-Guyanese in Barbados.I will encourage everyone to read today’s editions of the Starbroek News,Kaieteur News & the Trinidad Express.
    Those newspapers have in articles stating that Barbadians authorities are harassing Indo-Guyanese in Barbados.Those articles are stating that our police & immigration officials are raiding Indo-Guyanese homes in the dead of the nights,raiding work sites and generally targeting Indo-Guyanese for bad treatment.Blatant lies are being told on our officials.

    There is a conspiracy to disrupt this country and to cause confusion in this country.The conspiracy consists of Mia Mottley & the BLP,Bharat Jagdeo,David Comissiong & PEP,his Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves because David Comissiong is a Vincentian by birth and he has dual citizenship and he is also a holder of a St Vincent passport,Norma Faria,Ricky Singh and all the other other Communist in Barbados.This conspiracy is real.It is no joke.

    We Barbadians must remain focus on this issue and I will constantly repeat we must support our Prime Minister on this issues.All types of schemes are being hatch to frustrate & derail the work of our officials.We must not let that happen.

    David & BU I must again congratulate your efforts on keeping this immigration issue alive. This blog and many of the contributors played a pivotal role in the new immigration policy that was outlined by the Prime Minister.

  2. Mash up buy back Avatar
    Mash up buy back

    The government of Barbados needs to investigate and then asked that Faria is removed once they have satisfied their investigations with regards to Faria’s public release to newspapers in Guyana and barbados in which he states that guyanese are being’racially targetted’.

    If he understands the protocol associated with a diplomatic position he will know that he has crossed the line,because this information cannot be corrobated since there government’s policy is targetted at illegals of caricom – period.

    I know of persons of african descent from other caribbean countries who have been deported.
    Can they too claim that because they are of african descent they are being targetted?

    Why doesn’t this government once and for all deal with norman faria?

    He is spreading unsubstantiated allegations about indians which sounds like the same crap annalee davis was saying last year.


  3. Mash Up & Buy Back
    I concur 100 %.Norman Faria,Ricky Singh & some other gentleman name Rajkumar need to explain to Barbadians how Indo – Guyanese are being targeted.


  4. Negroman wrote “his Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves because David Comissiong is a Vincentian by birth”

    Please explain to me real, real slow so that I can understand; if being born in St. Vincent makes David Commissiong Vincentian, what does being born in England make our Prime MInister?

    Explain real slow because as you never tire of saying I am real, real old and real, real, slow.


  5. Top class article. Well written and addresses the underlying issues. People like Commissiong and Wickam are disgraces to Barbados.

    Othersd like Faria and Singh should be shown the door

  6. Mash up buy back Avatar
    Mash up buy back

    Kim young, aka ‘J’, also paramour of Ezra alleyne – Negroman has class.

    He and most persons will not even respond to you as you will notice every time you post your drivel.


  7. “Who’s a Bajan? He’s a Bajan? She’s a Bajan too?”

    J,

    You don’t know you’re not allowed to ask those kinds of questions? You want to make the PM blush or what? These people want to deport everyone who doesn’t agree with them, their own tenuous Bajan connections notwithstanding.


  8. Dear Mash up and by back you wrote

    “Kim young, aka ‘J’, also paramour of Ezra alleyne ”

    I can assure that I am NOT Kim Young, I am not Erza Alleyne’s paramour.

    In fact I do not like lawyers, not DLP lawyers, not BLP lawyers.

    I tend to agree with Shakespere “first thing we’ll do let’s kill all the lawyers.”

    So no. Neither Ezra nor any other lawyer has ever been nor can ever be my sweetie boy.


  9. Dear Negorman:

    I know that you would like to force me to leave but you ae POWERLESS to force me to leave. that because even though our Prime Minister’s navel string is not be buried here mine is.

    I know the exact tree under which it is buried and if you want I can show you anytime.

    Can our Prime Minister say the same?


  10. Prime Minister is a Barbadian, to suggest other wish is not to be taken seriously.


  11. J // May 18, 2009 at 3:12 pm

    Dear Negorman:

    I know that you would like to force me to leave but you ae POWERLESS to force me to leave. that because even though our Prime Minister’s navel string is not be buried here mine is.

    I know the exact tree under which it is buried and if you want I can show you anytime.

    Can our Prime Minister say the same?
    ==========================

    chuspe, um is time people discard this silly statement, as the truth could also be that your navel string was thrown into a pit toilet of discarded as medical waste. If perchance your parents claimed to you that they had engaged in this ritual, how do you know for certain?
    It Thompson the English born Barbadian can find it in his heart to honor the expectations of the MAJORITY of Barbados electors by whoms actions he gets to exercise the Authority of Prime Minister, and protect our borders, and culture, as oppose to other person who refuse to honor said expectations, does this present a complex choice? I don’t think so.

    Look tell muh wuh tree um is so I could go piss pun um do.


  12. the Ca’bean Federation did not work because jamaica and Trinidad did not want the other ‘poorer’ islands piggy back riding on their backs. CSME would never work for the same reasons. Why should Barbados always be the one doing the giving? why are the other islands running here? Our economies are totally different; so too is our standard of living. let the other island deal with their business and pull themselves out of their own rut.

    But looking at it another way if Barbados and really interested in CSME we would be finding ways of buying our fruit, oil and other important things from our c’bean neighbours like St. Lucia, St. Vincent, Dominica, Venuezla etc instead of crap from the US, China. etc we are still practicing colonialism after being free for over 300 hundreds.


  13. A Prime Minister’s first concern is for the people who elected him, it is from them he gets the “authority” to govern.

    Fully open borders with no restrictions is a pipe dream, no major industrial country practices it, neither can little Barbados. To support such a position is to play games with logic…that the immigrants in Barbados are “illegal” only compound the situation.

    Some Barbadians have become concerned that Barbadian society could become fragmented and lose its cohesiveness. All the economic benefits now mentioned here – because of illegal immigrants – are meaningless in such a society. A lifeboat is only useful when it carries enough passengers suitable for a safe voyage, when it is overburdened, it is no longer a lifeboat, it is a vessel of “death.”

    Mr. David Thompson please govern Barbados, that is what you were elected to do, it is because you have that responsibility, which others who shout loudly from the sidelines have never had, and never will, whilst a few who have had that responsibility to govern failed to do so, is why the situation is as it is.

    If there was a “footbridge” out of Guyana there would scarcely be anyone left there…the lectures are best directed to the leader of that country.


  14. They are catching Guyana’s Human Trafficking teams in Canada
    http://www.caribbeannetnews.com/news-16520–13-13–.html

    and Kindapping & Murdering Guyanese Workers over in T& T
    http://www.stabroeknews.com/2009/news/local/05/18/kidnapped-guyanese-workers-found-dead-in-trinidad/

    Guyana’s Politicians is busy always trying to run everyone else’s Country’s policies but THEIR OWN! [efficiently].

    Guyana has thought for a long time
    now that Barbados is indeed a Territory of Guyana.


  15. @Mash up buy back

    Our comment was meant for another reason


  16. You all always mention Fiji here, well the Prime Minister of Fiji, His Excellency Mr. Frank Bainimarama is in Guyana right now as I write here and he met with President Jagdeo at Guyana House today. Just thought I would tell you all.


  17. queenan :Where do you get your revisionist history of “The federation did not work because Jamaica and Trinidad didnot want other “poorer” islands piggybaking on them” Stop oversimplifying the issue of why the federation didnot work back then.It was more complicated than piggybacking.


  18. We all have to admit it – brilliant Budget by PM David Thompson.


  19. Please explain to me real, real slow so that I can understand; if being born in St. Vincent makes David Commissiong Vincentian, what does being born in England make our Prime MInister?

    ________________

    J, its simple: Thompson’s parents are Barbadian so it matters not where he was born! He is a Bajan as of right under our Constitution.

    Were Commissiong’s parents Barbadian? No.

    Mother Guyanese, Father Vincentian!

    Want it any slower?

  20. Jukecheckedeyskirt Avatar
    Jukecheckedeyskirt

    Very serious charges against Olga Lope-Seale. If they are true, I have lost all respect for her.


  21. David said:
    The fact that the Chief Editor Roxanne Gibbs at the Nation Newspaper is of Guyanese extraction speaks to credibility and she should be fired over how she has manipulated the Nation coverage of the immigration issue.
    —————————
    David I usually respect the posts on Barbados Undergorund, but when it comes to immigration, the comments sometimes make me cringe.

    You accuse Roxanne Gibbs of “manipulating” the nation’s coverage of the immigration issue. Is there any basis for such an attack on the woman’s integrity? Would you be attacking her “credibility” if she were a bajan?

    I am sure that we all agree that a sensible immigration policy is a good idea. However, is it really necessary to vilify persons as “diabolical forces” just because they don’t show the your enthusiasm to throw every Non-national out of Barbados?

    Let me say now that I am Barbadian but I personally think that there is way too much xenophopia in our country.

    Will you vilify me for taking this view?

    Am I a “diabolical force” like Peter Wickham or Ricky Singh?

    I support the Prime Minister’s plan to tackle the immigration issue and I think he, (seeing married to a St. Lucian) is genuinely seeking to tackle the problem in a way that won’t undermine CSME.

    I have no problem with the crusade to “protect” barbadian borders and infrastructure but you must realise that the rhetoric being used to further your cause seems to fuel the unacceptable xenophobic sentiment that, in my view, also has a negative affect on Barbados.


  22. They have never thought Barbados is part of their national territory, never, the too busy concerning themselves with race politics, you think they have time to think of such. Trust me, they don’t think of the people, only the party, the PNC and the PPP, and that is it, in Guyana and with Guyanese everything in life revolves around the above mentioned and the late Mr. Burnham and the Jagan, up to this day it is like that.


  23. @Anonjam

    Here is our simple response.

    For more than 2 years we have been shouting that Barbados needed to attend to the open immigration policy practiced by the former government. We were scorned and dismissed as you are doing now as being xenophobic.

    The current Prime Minister/government suddenly validates all that we have been blogging about and guess what? The media in Barbados has suddenly allocated 24/7 coverage to the issue of immigration. We make no apology for condemning all those who would have been the gatekeepers of the traditional media during that time.


  24. Dear Adrian Hinds you wrote “Look tell muh wuh tree um is so I could go piss pun um do.”

    No need to be rude.

    Yes my parents practised that ancient African ritual. Wha’ happen, you vex because your parents forget the ritual?

    I know that they did because I saw them burying the navel strings of my younger siblings.

    No mine was not th

    rown in a pit toilet (what a nasty vulgar thought) nor discarded as medical waste.

    In the proper African tradition it was buried in the earth.

    I know that you just jealous ’cause neither yours nor your Prime Minister’s is buried here.

    You are lost, because you can’t find the tree.

    Look you betta behave yourself before I work a thing on you,


  25. David David, why did you validate this Anonjam’s presence with a response? They’re as ill inform as any other naysayer on this issue, that i have previously heard.

    ——————————————–
    Anonjam asked:
    You accuse Roxanne Gibbs of “manipulating” the nation’s coverage of the immigration issue. Is there any basis for such an attack on the woman’s integrity? Would you be attacking her “credibility” if she were a bajan?

    ———————————————

    Here is the basis, for David and before him my attacks on the Nationnews and it’s editors.

    READ IT AND CONSIDER YOUR OWN IGNORANCE, AND HOW SUCH MAY HAVE HELP BRING THINGS TO THE CURRENT HEAD.
    =========================
    Below is the hard hitting Nation editorial which appeared in the Saturday Nation newspaper on the 22nd of MAY-2004

    Stop The Guyanese Bashing – Saturday 22, May-2004

    Stop The Guyanese Bashing – Saturday 22, May-2004
    THERE IS a very special ring about radio talk shows that keep us all buzzing with conversation. Interesting people make valid points which add considerably to public debate on issues of import.
    But that is only half of the talk.

    The other is diatribe. Pure and simple.

    Unfortunately, we have to swallow the one with the other. We have to listen to much nonsense if we want to benefit from the comments of value.

    The most recent example is the debate about the presence in Barbados of a large number of non-nationals, in particular people emanating from the Republic of Guyana. Estimates put the level at between 25 000 and 30 000.

    People are screaming on the airwaves about it, and they sound pretty sick. Arguments that border on racism and the need to preserve our “race”; arguments about Guyanese taking away the jobs of Barbadians; arguments about the social and infrastructure cost of this excess population are but three of the most non-sensical.

    This is not the first time that this debate has raged. The slightest public incident involving Guyanese or reference to the presence of Guyanese here gets the crazy-heads going on radio.

    Few people want to admit that without the presence of Guyanese artisans the construction industry would be at a standstill because of a labour shortage.

    Skilled men and women have made their way here and have made their mark because they bring to construction a sound work ethic and the ability to do some of the finest finishes.

    Others have come here to escape the hardship of life in a country divided down the middle because of racial conflict master-minded by selfish politicians.

    Others are a type of political refugee, and they fit into our country better than many others in this region because Guyanese and Barbadians have similar modest lifestyles and levels of social tolerance.

    The majority of people who access the radio to talk have no appreciation of the fact that we in the Caribbean – particularly the English-speaking Caribbean – have a common history and a common destiny.

    They are blind to the realities of a coming common market and want to ignore the fact that many years ago it was the Barbadians who benefited from the hospitality of other countries, absorbing our excess population.

    It hurts to hear pygmies giving vent on air to their petty chatter and myopic thinking, unchecked and unchallenged. We now merely listen and wait for the time when the bar is lifted and the radio shows return to more inspiring, more sane debate.

    =========================

    Added to this, and in response to the silly question suggesting a possible reconcideration on David’s part, should have Roxanne Gibbs been a Bajan;…. I do not recognize any difference between her and Peter Wickham other than place of birth, and I have read David’s attack’s on Peter’s immigration opinions. Have you not read such or is this yet another situation which I can use to further my opionion of your ignorance on this matter????


  26. Veritas wrote “J, its simple: Thompson’s parents are Barbadian so it matters not where he was born! He is a Bajan as of right under our Constitution. Were Commissiong’s parents Barbadian? No. Mother Guyanese, Father Vincentian!
    Want it any slower?”

    I may be slow but I believe that the same Constitution which recognizes the Prime Minister as a citizen even though he was not born here is the same Constitution under which the Barbados citizenship was granted toDavid Commisssiong, Roxanne Gibbes and Rickey Singh etc.

    So are you telling me the Constitution that is good for the PM is not good for people who choose to immigrate to Barbados and who choose to become Barbados citizens?

    I don’t understand you.

    Explain your self so that even people as slow as I am can understand. So that maybe even you can come to self understanding.


  27. HERE IS MY RESPONSE BACK IN 2004 TO THAT NATION NEWS EDITORIAL. 2004 Folks, back then I was a lone voice on the internet crying out about this, and being liken unto Enoch Powell, by some bajans who I know are now singing a different tune, short-sighted as they are.

    ===========================

    May 22 2004, 02:45 PM Post #15

    In reponse to a one-sided opinion from the other side that is masquarading as the Nation news paper editorial comments.

    QUOTE
    Others have come here to escape the hardship of life in a country divided down the middle because of racial conflict master-minded by selfish politicians.

    Others are a type of political refugee, and they fit into our country better than many others in this region because Guyanese and Barbadians have similar modest lifestyles and levels of social tolerance
    ==========================

    If there are escaping racial conflict in their society, what levels of social tolerance could exist in that society that are similar to ours??????

    .Are we selective in who we accept from this racially divided society?

    .Are we allowing individuals from both sides of the racial divide?

    .Do people who migrate immediately suspend their cultural believes and practices?

    Can we safely say that these individuals will be acculturated into Barbados sufficiently enough to fade any remnants of the generational social diviseness in their native society?

    Other than tripping over yourself and clearly showing the difference between the two societies, when you probably intended otherwise, what is your argument? What statistical measurement was use to arrive at your asserted breakdown of contributions to the radio talk shows? Should we just stop talking because, mixed amongst the valid points, are others, according to you, that are rifted with diatribe? Isn’t this true of every national issue under discussion? Who made you judge and jury anyway? Would it not be better to attempt to win those diatribe talkers over to a more pragmatic discussion? What purpose does it serves to talk down, criticize and dismiss a contributor to this debate. I am not going to speculate on what could be the agenda that is driving your equally offensive remarks.
    Here it is, you have access to prime editorial real estate that could be better used to educate these contributors on why you think their arguments may be incorrect , and you seemly could not resist the simpleton temptation to squander that space to engage in what to my mind could be considered remarks that are equally deserving of the same dismissive title you attributed theirs. Have you call on Sir Leroy Trotman to identify those 3 construction sites that he has said are dismissing Barbadians only to hire non-nationals? Is he lying? Should we not believe him? Do you understand the context within which he Sir Trotman is calling for a national registry on non-national workers? Do you agree with this approach? I do believe him, and i am at a lost as why you would refer to that particular argument echoed on the call-in programs by average person as non-sensical? does that argument alternate between the senical and non-sensical base on who stating it? People will always want to know things and when they can’t get the information they tend to create it. If you honestly want to limit the so called diatribal, borderline racial arguments, then research the correct information that will counter such, and present it in response to the arguments that you think are incorrect.

    This has got to be an individual’s OpEd (Opinion editorial) masquerading as the collective opinion of that news organization.


  28. Regional integration has been a hot topic since the time of Sir Grantley Adams and the failed West Indian Federation. Since then we have been trying to reconstitute the idea of economic integration aided and abetted by the USA and UK and now EU who would like to speak to one voice from this region rather than a number of small countries.

    The problem today is that after trying for decades to formulate a workable “Federation”, we have basically failed. We now have basically a trading entity that allows for some measure of free trade and investment in the Region. For governments, the major aim has always been to facilitate business interests… the free movement of people was always way down the list. They have been doing this — thus the problems we now have.

    Caricom members meet regularly and pay lip service to the ideals of true integration of a Single Market and Economy (CSME). This should mean a seamless integrated system of laws and government with a common currency. Only the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States seem to have made the right moves in this direction whereby eight countries use the same currency and they have a Central Bank that controls the finances of each island. Their currency is fixed and strong at $2.67 to the US$ and Trinidad is now talking about joining them . one wonders ….Why now.?

    While the vested business interests have been pushing Caricom and CSME for financial and personal gain, the ordinary people have looked at it from the idea of free movement for their own social and economic gain as well… even though that was slated for the last stage of integration in 2015. They wanted it now and therefore overstayed and settled in various countries although they were not validated to do so. The two strongest supporters of CSME over the last ten years were Barbados and Guyana, so there is no doubt that has helped to foster the accelerated inflow of Guyanese to Barbados. Barbados, like Trinidad, has also been a “Money Trees” in this Region, for remittances back home to build the Guyana’s economy.

    Governments change and economic times also change. There is also the problem of culture and the assimilation of people who come purely for economic gain with no interest in assimilating within their adopted country’s culture. This is especially so with immigrants from Guyana where there is a cultural divide between the Indian and the African Guyanese. Most Indians there, even those at the lowest economic and educational level feel that they are intrinsically” better than dem black man”. That is their problem there…. but should we should also ask ourselves.. “How do the Barbadian-born Indians REALLY feel about black people?” Check it out and you will be surprised.

    Now that a new generation of leaders are in charge, the reality of the failure of CSME is being revealed. Now Prime Minister Thompson has said that “The King is Naked!” and everyone is surprised at the TRUTH. He is now preparing Barbados for the new reality whereby the country takes control of its cultural and economic survival. He will not fail as the people are behind him. The other islands will soon follow suit and there will be moves to make the relationships between the territories one of mutual respect whereby they will still share and trade but with controls and systems that are mutually beneficial.

    The people mentioned by BU, as supporters of CSME and the open immigration policies are still stuck in their old reality of a working CSME. They are not necessarily anti-Bajan – they are just supporting the integration mantra that may has given their lives some meaning – and maybe job security. These are new times, especially with this worldwide economic meltdown. Now it is every country protecting its own fragile economy for the survival of its own peoples. This is what the Barbadian government is doing… and the trend will continue here and in other countries.

    For Guyana, we must realize that there are many Guyanese who have contributed to Barbados. There is no point in being negative and attacking all Guyanese. Barbados will still allow Guyanese to come and work in skills that are needed, just as Barbadians will work in other territories. Things will just be more organized and many of negative aspects of open immigration would be prevented or controlled.

    Now Guyana’s government may be forced to look after its population as they come streaming back home from across the world… We shall see if in their elections, due in 2011, the people would choose a coalition government where no party has over 50% of the vote. This should introduce shared governance, to help fix the chronic governance problems spanning some 60 years.


  29. To reiterate what Ecoanalyst is saying the protectionism is continuing even in the largest countries.The OECD recently mentioned that they would do all they could to continue Globalism & free trade,but what actually happened was that every country tried to protect their own countries economies first & foremost.It doesn’t matter if it was the US,EU,India etc. the G20 know first & foremost to protect what they have locally & it is only natural that the Barbados Government should implement the necessary restrictions to those that should threaten the economy of Barbados.


  30. I may be slow but I believe that the same Constitution which recognizes the Prime Minister as a citizen even though he was not born here is the same Constitution under which the Barbados citizenship was granted toDavid Commisssiong, Roxanne Gibbes and Rickey Singh etc.

    _______

    Slower still: The Constitution is not what gives a non-national citizenship.

    Its the Immigration Act!

    They apply and they don’t acquire it as of right.

    A person who has citizenship by way of constitutional provisions has it as of right and no one can take it from him/her.

    Simple and slow… get it yet? Take your time girl.


  31. In 2004;

    A need to monitor import goods juxtapose to a need to monitor imported labour.

    Concern for an over-abundance of regionally produce goods entering a market space and the harm that level can do to our already hard press manufacturing and agriculture sectors of our economy has prompted the GoB to implement an import monitoring scheme. At the end of the monitoring period it will be determine if protection mechanisms i.e. tariffs and other restrictions will be put on these products as is allowed under the revise treaty of chaguramous.

    Done by the BLP with much clatter from Trinidad
    —————————-

    In 2007:

    QUOTE (Baldwin Spencer says free movement in CARICOM by September @ Jun 4th 2007)
    “in the case of Antigua and Barbuda we have taken that position, as a matter of fact, we have called on the CARICOM Secretariat to carry out what we call an Empirical Impact Study dealing with the whole question of the labour market and so on to see to what extent this is impacting on Antigua and Barbuda,” he told CMC

    In 2004 I wrote:
    Concern for an over-abundance of citizens from a specific caricom region country entering Barbados and specifically into the Barbados labour force to the alleged tune of 25-30 thousand and the harm it pose to Industrial relations, race relations, and the stability of Barbados as a law abiding country, has prompted the BWU to call for an Employment registry. I do not know if there is a provision within the revised treaty of Chaguramous to treat to the issue of a severe imbalance in free movement patterns of Caribbean nationals, but I think given what is at stake it ought to be.


  32. Some thoughts and questions:

    Can Barbados and the other West Indian countries “survive” or more importantly thrive by going their separate ways? Please don’t assume anything and simply attack my post. It is often best to explicitly identify the benefits and the pitfalls associated with any particular course of action.

    It would appear that the CSME model is dead or more likely still-born. We (the West Indies) seem to back at the starting line. Even UWI is fighting the current of nationalism i.e. the development of the separate universities of Barbados, of Trinidad and of Jamaica.

    So what is the way forward? I sense that many of the brightest young people in the region are quietly arranging their relocation to North America and further afield. Can it be said that the present generation has failed to secure a future for our people in the Caribbean? Is our economic model one to be based on remittances from extra regional sources?

    While it is necessary to bring immigration under control (so no argument from me on the Barbados Government’s recent measures), what about the collateral issue of a low birth rate in Barbados? As I understand it, some are saying that without immigration our population is perilously close to demographic collapse. Is this true? If so what can we do about it?

    Hope there can be some debate on the way forward. I believe that the Government has heard and responded to the concern of illegal and/or unmanaged immigration but this can only be the first step.


  33. Adrian Hinds,
    “Look tell me wuh tree um is so i cud go piss pun um”.

    I don’t remember the last time I had such a good laff. That was good.

    I’m trying to smile again. Not all there yet……………….. far from.


  34. Adrian, you have cited a newspaper article that complains about the negative attitudes which are directed towards guyanese. The article isn’t arguing that the country should open the flood gates to illegal immigrants.It isn’t arguing that a sensible immigration policy is a bad idea. It merely seeks to come to the defence of a set of people who have been the target of xenophobic sentiment in barbados.Is that the diabolical plot of which you speak? Look, I get it, the immigration issue is paramount for you and if you had your way the nation newspaper would run endless stories about the horrible effects caused by immigration from guyana. But here’s my view: From my observation the persons who you vilify don’t seem “diabolical” to me. I see no evidence that those in the media are wishing for a deluge of illegal immigrants into the country.However, I do see evidence of xenophobia which disturbs me.And it seems to me that any time anyone highlights unacceptable anti-immigrant sentiment he or she is denigrated.


  35. David, I never accused you of being xenophobic. I am not arguing that every comment made in support of immigration reform is a xenophobic comment. However there are many xenophobic comments posted on these blogs. There are many xenophobic comments expressed on the airwaves.I am just highlighting that fact.


  36. Bonny Peppa
    I am delighted to have you back on the blogs.Take your time to heal my dear.Death of a loved one is not that easy to overcome.

    Adrian Hinds brilliant response to Roxanne Gibbs the ungrateful bitch editorial of 2004.

    Adrian, J is an elder that I respect even though I do not support many of her views.I love to tease her because her responses are sometimes comical.I think you were a bit
    harsh on her. In true African culture we must respect our elders.I will cuss the other ethnic groups people, but I will never disrespect an elder with African blood.J,I respect you but as I say I love to tease you.

    David & BU I agreed with your term as labeling Roxanne Gibbs and the rest as diabolical forces.That is the perfect term for those misfits who want to dictate what born & breed Black Barbadians must say or do in this country.Roxanne Gibbs,stinking Vic Fernandes,musty Norman Faria,the political & human nuisance David Comissiong and Ricky Singh all non-nationals should be dealt a lesson so severe that those human waste for people should never be able again to challenge any decisions taken by any government of Barbados for the protection of Barbadians especially Black Barbadians.We Black Barbadians are tolerating too much shit from those individuals I mentioned.

    Enough is Enough


  37. Bonny Peppa // May 18, 2009 at 11:21 pm

    ___________________________

    I missed you and I prayered for you! Thanks for making me smile!


  38. Ananymous asked “some are saying that without immigration our population is perilously close to demographic collapse. Is this true? If so what can we do about it?”

    Birds and Bees lesson 101

    We have to have more reproductive (that is unprotected) sex.

    Enjoy.

  39. Bajans ain't foolish Avatar
    Bajans ain’t foolish

    People like Anojam think that the average bajan is not too bright to see through their subterfuge.

    They start by telling you – oh we are in agreement that you can’t allow everyone in, but what about the declining population,or what about those xenophobic comments we hear on the airwaves and see in the newspapers.

    Well to those persons I respond this way:

    Were it not for this Barbados Underground blog,the issue of the negative impact of the deluge of guyanese,vincentians,jamaicans,english,whoever would have been silenced because of the policies of said roxanne gibbs – guyanese born editor of the Nation newspaper and one vic fernandes guyanese born CEO of Starcom Network.

    Of course they were aided and abetted by their usual stooges in the likes of peter wickham,mia mottley,owen arthur,dale marshall,rawle eastmond and the other blp politicians,mike browne -the producer of the call in shows at starcom,olutuye walrond formerly of CBC to name a few.

    History has taught us that all during our years of oppression and struggle – during the slavery years and afterwards – there has always been members of the community of decendants of african people who have always acted as stooges and pimps and sold out their brothers and sisters,while the other races understood the need to unite as one – during times of crisis and national significance.

    But black people are resilient and have always found a way to survive.

    The decision taken today by prime minister thompson and his DLP party is not for us,but has long reaching implications for the future of barbados and the future of our progeny.

    Thank God for the internet and for the adminstrators of BARBADOS UNDERGROUND.

    I will boldly proclaim that with every breath that I have.

    For were it not for this blog we would have been discarded and denied our voice by the main stream media like the Nation newspaper and VOB,and other blogs like Barbados Free Press which touted itself as being for freedom of expression but quickly changed its tune once it discovered that the people wanted a voice to protest against the increasing negative social fall-out from the heavy presence of the non african ethnic groups in Barbados.

    History will judge the media houses and the BLP party severely for their disloyal,unpatriotuc stance during this period of our history, of seeking to suppress the voices of the people of barbados on the critical issue of their future and the future of their country.


  40. Veritas wrote ” The Constitution is not what gives a non-national citizenship.
    Its the Immigration Act!
    They apply and they don’t acquire it as of right. ”

    And isn’t the Immigration Act subject to the Constitution? And once a person has been granted citizenship can it be taken away? And is there such a thing as first class Barbados citizenship and second class Barbados citizenship and perhaps last class Barbados citizenship?

    Take ya time answering.

    And yes it is ok to seek legal and Constitutional advice before you answer.

  41. Bajans ain't foolish Avatar
    Bajans ain’t foolish

    David

    Is there some way this could be posted as a response seperate and apart to your article about rallying around.

    I feel so strongly about this blog site and what has been taking place in the media that I wanted those in the hierachy of the media and in politics to see how we the average citizens feel about these goings-on.

    It could be posted under the heading ‘Bajans say yes – we will rally around our prime minister’.


  42. @”Bajans ain’t foolish”; I agree with the sentiment expressed in your name. So where are you from?


  43. @J
    Why are Bajans not having more reproductive sex? Are you trivializing the issue?

  44. Bajans ain't foolish Avatar
    Bajans ain’t foolish

    I thought that was obvious.


  45. Read the editorial in the kaeitur news.

    It has put together all the arguments of ricky singh and norman faria and mia mottley and is lamabasting barbados for the stance it has taken.


  46. Exhibit 1: Over the head.

  47. BFP attacking BU Avatar
    BFP attacking BU

    What’s going on over there? What’s Ian Bourne’s problem? He is getting on all holier than thou!


  48. BU, have you seen BFP today? They have taken a turn in you because that immature, pot-bellied fool Ian Bourne has removed BU from his sidebar. Count that as a blessing.
    I posted a comment about it on BFP but they have refused to publish my comment because it was full of criticism of them. So much for freedom of speech.

    They are also furious because you have asked Bajans to rally around the P.M. They are totally incapable of giving praise to anyone except their own favourites like Bourne and Keltruth. They are a bunch (or is it one man?) of pathetic imbeciles. I believe that members of the Gov’t (maybe the PM himself) read BU and I firmly believe that it is due to your influence and the cries of frustrated and fed up Bajans on here that the PM has taken the decision that he did on the immigration issue.

    BFP are threatening to remove you from their link as well. So what? Let them. Do what you have to do, and yes, we back the PM all the way.


  49. Reality Check,Pied Piper,Passin thru are some of the regular BU haters who are posting nasty comments about BU over at BFP.

    Yet they run over at the same ‘hateful’ BU and posts comments here too.

    They tell us that only 5 or 6 persons comment on BU,so why are they so upset if, as they say,’BU does not have a large following?’

    It seems mighty strange that the BFP is so concerned about what BU is posting,when David and BU has never in a negative way condemned the BFP posts.

    BFP seems to be a one horse show,intent on getting the Graeme hall project by Mr allard done to their satisfaction and condemning thompson for not kow-towing to them.

    It is laughable that they have to remind us about the many hits they get.

    It is clear that over the past year or so the comments section and by extension we can speculate this may also been seen in the readership has declined massively.

    Sour grapes I say.


  50. ha ha ha I have not been to BFP in sometime, and I am quite certain I am not alone. In fact i have been quietly working with my vast email contact list to let people know why I don’t visit them as much. My guess is, they have been doing likewise, me don’t know! So how else can they attempt a resucitation? Well by attacking the LEADING BAJAN BLOG.
    David please stay above the fray, no need to address their comments or concerns, I will lead the charge in that regard if the need arises.
    Ian Bourne,…. one must continue to pray for this obviously depress soul. It is not natural for someone to eat themselves to death as he is clearly doing. My good deed for today is to offer him the suggestion that he see’s a mental health practioner before his binge eating habits leads to his untimely death. Think of your family and cat and how they could end up losing ALL of you when all you have to do is give-up a little bit of your size.

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