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updateI am attaching the Notice of Motion returnable December 2, 2008 and the decision in respect of that Motion. Out of deference to the Ontario Court, I refrain from comment. However, my lack of commentary (that is very likely to be a one-off) is my choice and not something that any foreign court can require of me, a Bajan resident in Barbados whose country is being sued. That I apprise my fellow Bajans of the course of this action against our homeland is my right as a Bajan, as indeed it is the right and due and responsibility of every Bajan to know what is taking place – and as we all know, forget about hearing it from the press. It is our tax dollars and foreign exchange currency that are going to pay the fees of lawyers in Canada and we have a right to know what is going on.

By the way, has the BU family noticed that Barbados Free Press has put in a cartoon of Sir David Simmons and the PM that suggests that the PM is playing along with Sir David and arranging to close down Graeme Hall at Sir David’s behest? Does anyone recall a fairly recent article from supposedly unimpeachable sourced on BFP – (September 21, 2008 Good Sources: Barbados Chief Justice To Be Fired… er, “Will Ask To Retire).

I see that BFP has even managed to obtain an interview with Almighty Allard for its latest Graeme Hall dirge to which this silly cartoon relates. However, one has to reflect that when the real Almighty (as opposed to this cheap, tawdry fake) spoke to Moses, he did so from a burning bush on the top of a mountain. It is (one has to assume) supposed to mirror/imitate and be an indication of great favour that Almighty Allard managed to tear himself away from his contemplation of the indigenous animal activity and speak to his prophets (Keltruth and BFP) from the bushes at Long Beach – without fire, of course – poor little Pete has not yet mastered the art of a fire that does not burn.

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  1. David Avatar
    David

    A couple of questions from the legal dunces in the BU household:
    – What is meant by the “credibility of the Barbados Deponents”
    – Why would a pro like Ronnie Carrington encounter the kind of failure to equipment knowing the scope of the job, we presume.
    – Why are the defendants electing to hire different counsel if this is deemed a frivolous case?

  2. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    This case gets stranger and stranger.

    I get the feeling that the Hounourable Judge is getting fed-up. I get the feeling that the Hounourable Judge, is questioning why McKenzie wants the tapes/DVDs released and copied. I get the feeling the Hounourable Judge does not want to let those said tapes out of his courthouse for any reason. I wonder why?

    Is it possible the Honourable Judge has had dealings with McKenzie, et al? Or is it that the Honourable Judge is suddenly being made aware of the situation he is in?

    I take note that the Honourable Judge is giving the responsibility for the viewing of the tapes by the Plaintiff to the Defendants. To be done only at the courthouse. Says a lot to me.

    I notice the part about blogs and web postings. Interesting, no doubt.

  3. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    David

    What it says is that MacKenzie intends to bring further motions disputing the credibility of the Barbados defendants examined in Barbados. Remember he had petitioned earlier to have the tapes copied and distributed. In fact, he wanted to hire someone to do it. It seems to me MacKenzie is telling the court that they are, in my opinion, liars. It appears to me that he plans to continue along those lines, with any future actions. He gives a clue to this in his request for motion.

    Dont blame Ronnie Carrington. This went on for several days of continuous filming. Those things happen with technology. Machines will break down and malfunction at the most critical times. Dont forget, he had back up CD/DVDs, so nothing was missing. You wonder if MacKenzie was at the examinations or no.

    I dont know if this is the father or son, but I knew the senior Ronnie when he was an associate of Willie Alleyne. Honest to a fault and very religious. Nothing underhand about the man. I could not even persuade him to place a bet on a horse when he was on assignment at the Garrison during the 60’s.

    Re the question of different lawyers, if I were sued and had a lawyer I had used before, that is the lawyer I would continue to use. Note that those who used separate lawyers are Corporations or those who have ties to Canada. Although I am not too knowledgeable about Mr. Simmons.

    That is the take from a layman. I will have to see what Juris and BWWR have to say on my mouthings.

  4. Lies Avatar
    Lies

    The author of this article falsely gives the impression that BFP had an exclusive interview with Allard. In fact, they reprinted verbatim a press release from the nature sanctuary that went out to all media. Ian Bourne at Bajan Reporter printed the release and Allard’s comments the day before BFP.

    The author of this article deliberately presented this lie to the readers, and many other lies and half truths.

    At the end of the day the court cases will grind on and those who have never had to testify in public about their actions (about anything at all) are being forced to testify under oath.

    They have fought for years to avoid this and it is happening.

    The truth has been a long time coming, but it is coming out a piece at a time.

    The author of this article reminds me of propaganda minister Gobbels during the final days of World War Two. With each “victory” the front line moved another ten miles closer to Berlin.

    BWWR proclaims “victory” with each and every article, but the trials grind on and the most senior people are having to testify in a foreign court and explain their actions.

    May the ‘victories’ continue!

  5. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    I dont see any testifying and I see no trials. This is a HEARING to see if Canada has jurisdiction over a Barbadian land issue.

    Justice Shaughessy said he saw no ‘merit’ in the main claim of the Plaintiff’s lawyer that several hours of cross examinations were missing and did not grant them permission to copy said tapes ‘to prepare for future motions’ or to ‘instruct experts’ etc. This is nonsense.

    The Honourable Justice stated that tapes must remain in custody of the court. That no parts thereof will be copied. The Plaintiff can view and play them in court under direction of a technician “chosen” by the Defendants. So, did they (the Plaintiff) win/get the motion they wanted? I say No.

    The Judge also chastised Counsel because a Juridictional Hearing has turned into a ‘jousting match’ to impugn the integrity of the affiants, Using blogs and websites. It was the Plaintiff who submitted pages and pages of of comments from the blogs as evidence in their affidavits. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Now go figure.

    Why, even my comments on BFP have been submitted as supporting evidence to an affidavit. Cheupse.

  6. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    Dear Pat,

    If you are not a lawyer, then the Barbados Bar ought to make you an honourary one. You have answered all questions. I have nothing to add to what you have said and nothing to substract. I agree completely.

    But, how interesting that none other than the great Ian Bourne was the one to brave the bushes at Long Beach and interview the Almighty Allard. I wonder if he took his BFP partner, Jane Goddard with him? As our friend “Lies // December 4, 2008 at 11:25 pm” seems to know so very much about Mr Bourne’s interview with the Almighty Allard, maybe they will tell us about this. Did the bushes at Long Beach writhe announcing the imminent appearance of Almighty Allard?

    Seems to me, however, that any chance of Keltruth and BFP getting hold of the videos to edit, subjectively annotate and falsify and then post on Keltruth, BFP and U Tube has effectively been shot down. This will explain why our friend “Lies” is so aireated – as in flatulence, not as in a Ju-C.

  7. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    By the way, oh aptly named Lies, I do not proclaim victory and have never proclaimed victory – but I have stated that K William McKenzie, a member of the Law Society of Upper Canada, has stated that he knows he will lose the jurisdictional motion, but that he will just re-file in another province. Since you are clearly an insider and one of the Knoxettes or Allarettes, thank you so much for confirming the intent of Mental Madge, Pathetic Pete and Little Willy (I mean Billy). But, as Pat has pointed out, the defendants’ counsel will not be filing this blog, because it is unsupported and they prefer to leave those abuses of process to the plaintiff. Barbados has no intention of dredging the sewers like Mental Madge and the Knoxettes and Almighty Allard and the Allarettes.

    Peace.

  8. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Hahaha!

    What a laugh. Sometimes after reading the drivel posted by some people I am ashamed to call them Bajans. I picked up from the request for motion that this case would have no end. Those people intend to continue throwing good money after bad.

    I think they even have the Honourable Judge fed up to his eye balls. He should throw the book at the lot of them. He did not say who is to blame for the blogging, posting on web sites, etc., but while the Honourble Judge may now sit, I am sure he did not get to the Bench by sitting! lol!

  9. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    BWWR

    I dont bother with Ian Bourne. I dont visit his blog and I never comment on anything he has to say. I just dont like the “brown noser”. Something about his attitude and his positions on issues turns me off completely.

  10. David Avatar
    David

    The BU household hangs heads in bewilderment as the continuing mess unfolds.

  11. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    My mind is boggled as well, David. I have to agree with Pat once again.

  12. public Avatar
    public

    We as the public of Barbados need to investigate Jane Goddard and the rest of the Knox regime. If we see them in public we should all investigate record and report there every movement and saying. We need to stand up for ourselves and shut them up

  13. public Avatar
    public

    People we need to make celebrities 0ut of Insane Jane and Mental Madges Knoxette’s. Let’s publisise them.We don’t need their lies to denagrate us anymore. Let’s make the feel real comfort

  14. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    David,

    The sad thing about all this is that when you suggested ADR, the Knox camp said they were willing to come to the table. It was understood from another poster (maybe BWWR but I am not sure) that Classic has indicated long before this thing became a mess that they were willing to settle.

    Now, from the above, it is obvious to all that the Plaintiff’s statement about ADR “have no merit”, as the Hounourable Judge would say.

    Personally, I dont think the Knoxes are pulling the strings. I understand, that unlike her brother, Kathy Davis is one smart cookie.

  15. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Public,

    I understand that Jane Goddard vacations at Cattlewash. If you could find out the name of the bayhouse, I will see what I can do.

  16. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    BWWR,

    Thanks for the compliment. No, I am not a lawyer. Never studied the law, never practiced it.

    I just read enough to get by and save myself legal fees when necessary.

  17. public Avatar
    public

    Pat
    All we want is the media at her door 24 hours a day

  18. public Avatar
    public

    Insane Jane is the mouth piece of how the world see barbados lets give her due diligence

  19. public Avatar
    public

    Let put the press on her 24 hours a day

  20. public Avatar
    public

    Media needs to survey her and her tribe

  21. public Avatar
    public

    24 hours a day

  22. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Public,

    Lets start by finding out where she lives and where she spends her off time. I can mobillize some people to get on her case.

    I think the whole clan is one beer short of a six pack.

  23. What if? Avatar
    What if?

    These posts become more and more pathetic. The two of you old hens not finished squawking yet? Why dont the two of you exchange phone numbers or emails so you can “Pat” each other on the back as much as you want without subjecting us to it.

  24. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    What if?

    Bee in your bonnet?

    No one is compelling you to visit…

    No one is forcing you to read…

    You like you dumber than bait!

  25. What if? Avatar
    What if?

    Oh look finally the 3rd Stooge has joined in. Which one you want to be public; Curly, Larry or Moe?

  26. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    Hi Pat,

    I agree. Let us mobilize a crew to overlook – PEACEFULLY – Jane Goddard and Mental Madge and John Knox. Here are the details.

    Madge lives at Bannatyne Cottage, which is in the same compound as Bannatyne Plantation House, but with a better view on the hill overlooking everything right down to the sea. John Knox lives there with her.

    Jane Goddard lives at the old overseers quarters at Hanson Plantation, which is in the same compound as Hanson Plantation House in St George. The house at Cattloewash is called “Hutto”.

    Jane and Larry Goddard are the proprietors of a business called K.G. Enterprises and they run it from their home at Hanson.

    REMEMBER – Like all Bajans – poor, peaceful and polite – and no crowds, just single individuals or two at most. The surrounding land is the property of Kingsland Estates Limited. If any official of Kingsland Estates Limited asks anyone to leave, do so peacefully and politely and with good humour. ONLY a Kingsland official can request that you leave – that means someone authorized by the board of directors of Kingsland and NOT someone authorized by Madge Knox, who is merely a shareholder and has no such authority.

    What if? // December 6, 2008 at 1:18 am . If it is all the same to you since I am a black woman and have never straightened my hair, I will be Curly. But don’t you think that since you are dealing with retired women that a better name would be the “Supremes” rather than the Stooges? – then, sorry Pat, I want to be Diana and I asked first. Otherwise, Curly will do for me just fine. Okay with you, “What if”?

  27. BWWR aka Curly Avatar
    BWWR aka Curly

    Please note my new Moniker in deference to “What if”.

  28. BWWR aka Curly Avatar
    BWWR aka Curly

    Final warning. Do not trespass on any land belonging to or in the control of any of the people whom you are observing. Do not go on to the Goddard property or on to the lands of Bannatyne Cottage. Leave a LOT of space between yourselves and the people you are observing – do not be in their faces and in any way intrusive. Do not seek to engage them in conversation and if they engage you, do not be drawn into any arguments. These are beautiful areas of Barbados and just to sit and enjoy the scenery and listen to the birdsong restores the soul. Always remember, a cat can look at a queen – so maybe somebody should go up Chancery Lane and see how the Almighty Allard is doing at the same time and, while there, form a neighbourhood watch so that Loveridge will be protected as well and have no further cause of complaint. The object of this whole exercize is that, not only can the movements of people be observed, but these same people can be protected from the violence they claim they are threatened with in our country and in Toronto, which is my view is self-manufactured. In many countries, this surveillance is done by CCTV cameras the videos of which are always available to the Police – especially in Canada, even in Orillia. We don’t have these to any great extent in Barbados yet, so we have to rely on concerned citizens in a sort of neighbourhood watch to ensure that the safety of all is protected, especially these plaintiffs.

    In World War II, Denmark was invaded by the Nazis, but the Danish king rode out daily among his subjects without any security guards. The Nazis asked him how he could do this and he replied that he did have guards – his subjects. Since Mental Madge and the Knoxettes and particularly Almighty Allard want to take our sovereignty unto themselves, then let us Bajans – all 276,000 of us, guard them as the Danish king was guarded, so that no threat to their persons or properties can be levelled at us Bajans. If in the course of this we happen to be witnesses to any behaviour that contravenes our laws, then we will report it as is our duty as citizens of a sovereign independent state dedicated to freedom and individual rights under the law.

    We are at a stage in our development and the history of our country where our peaceful ways and historic protection and advancement of the rights of indiviuals under the law has been questioned. Therefore, we must show that we treat all people the same, regardless of how we may feel about them – or how they may feel about us. Let us demonstrate that we are above the petty behaviours that made them leave their own countries and come to Barbados in the first place. Let us show them up for the liars and cheats they actually are. Let us protect them and their properties as we would ourselves and our families and friends.

  29. Avatar
    Anonymous

    David/BU

    I believe this time BWWR and Pat have gone too far and this with the sanction and complicity of BU.

    When you read their above posts giving out private information of private citizens and advocating the invasion of these citizens privacy,I believe this is now beyond the pale.

    I think it is more than enough time for you to shut down this thread and remove the offensive posts above.

    We are treading on dangerous ground here and to continue with this post will send a loud signal the you are tacitly encouraging this dangerous stage we have reached.

  30. David Avatar
    David

    We definitely agree that the discussion as always occur on this topic is going nowhere fast. We urge both sides to consider that the country and the world is reading this matter.

    On the personal details we recall that much of the information listed above is included among documents saved on BU. But we do agree that some commenter are mashing the line.

  31. BWWR aka Curly Avatar
    BWWR aka Curly

    Nonsense, Anonymous. Keltruth has repeatedly ITSELF provided precisely the information that I have and so has BFP. Look at the pleadings posted and articles and you will find that the addresses of Madge Knox and Jane Goddard are supplied therein – and you don’t have to go to the Court (which you can as they are public domain documents) just look through the documents posted by both BFP and Keltruth as well as those in the public domain posted by BU.

    Jane Godddard/Kathy Davis/John Knox through Keltruth have provided details of their addresses and directions and those of their mother. They did this themselves and they alone are responsible for breaching whatever privacy you claim has been breached.

    Your suggestion of closure of the thread is self-serving and very transparent and I recommend that you do like other BU readers and do a little reading and then vacate your untenable position.

    Never seen such rubbish in my life. Do you seriously think that I would breach the privacy of people who had not published details breaching that privacy themselves? I am not Mental Madge. I am not a Knoxette. I am not Almighty Allard. I am not an Allarette – nor am I Fishy Heaslett, who is welcomed into someone’s home and family and then contravenes every law of hospitality – and good manners – and seeks to entrap that very person on the orders of his paymaster, Almighty Allard.

    If I am privy to the private details of the Knoxs and Allard and the Goddards, it is because they – on their blogs – made me so. All Pat has done is asked to shortcut having to read again their vomitous and treasonable outpourings in order to arrange for the press corp to dog their steps as suggested by “public” and I am happy to jog her memory with information supplied me by these people themselves.

    Finally, what in Hades gives you the right to assume that we Bajans are as we are portrayed by Little Willy and his clients? Just who in hell are you to accuse us of having the intention to do other than peaceful AND LEGAL observation. You are way out of order, Anonymous.

  32. What if? Avatar
    What if?

    I saw you more as Moe BWWR to be perfectly honest.

    You are advocating having people watch these private citizens every move and passed out the location of their residences so that they may do so and you see nothing wrong with that?

    You must be getting a little senile in your old age.

  33. gypsy Avatar
    gypsy

    These two ole yard fowls scratching fuh corn again?

  34. BWWR aka Curly Avatar
    BWWR aka Curly

    Maybe so, David. Maybe there is some mashing of lines, but I am not convinced. With the deepest respect as always and convinced as I have always have been of your bona fides, if the details have been provided, and they have, on Keltruth and BFP (as well as BU) and it is the Knox family itself that has provided details of their personal addresses and other details, then they have no reasonable expectation of privacy in respect of that information. http://keltruthblog.com/blog/?p=178 and keltruthblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/5/27/knox/01319981207AffidavitofJohnKnoxandJaneGoddard.pdf

    As for Peter Allard, well if you go to bajan.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/pmletter1015081.pdf you will find a letter posted on the Internet from Peter Allard to the Prime Minister of Barbados that Peter Allard himself released. It gives his address, telephone number and e-mail address.

    If this case were taking place in Barbados and it was Canada being sued, I would expect that the people bringing the action against Canada would have the Canadian press camped out on their doorsteps practicing the type of journalistic investigation that Pat and Public are suggesting ought to be accorded in this case – the type of investigative journalism so comprehensively excluded by people like Mr Babb.

    Why are we expected to change the goal posts just because it is Barbados being sued and not Canada?

  35. JC Avatar
    JC

    Pat and BWWR wanna right!

  36. BWWR aka Moe Avatar
    BWWR aka Moe

    Happy, “What If”? See above. “What is in a name,” as Mr Shakespeare said. He went on to say, in essense, that the name does not matter. I agree. It is the content and the truth of what is said. I may be old, but senility is not my problem, praise the Lord.

  37. BWWR aka Moe Avatar
    BWWR aka Moe

    One last one.

    http://barbadosfreepress.wordpress.com/2007/08/25/barbados-jail-builder-veco-added-as-defendant-in-lawsuit-against-prime-minister-arthur-and-chief-justice-simmons/

    Look for the comment by none other than Kathy Davis herself. And guess who published the information – BFP.

  38. David Avatar
    David

    @BWWR aka Moe

    We agree that the personal information is out there and that is why we have not deleted for the reason anonymous proposed. What we meant by mashing the line is the escalation in the rhetoric around the case. We understand now that this matter has gone pass the point of no return, ADR is out of the question for sure. Because the parties have deep pockets there is no telling on the present path where this matter will end up. One thing is sure, life was not meant to be life the way this case is playing out.

  39. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    David, I do not disagree at all. This is surely NOT how life is meant to be. However, there are always the exceptions that prove the rule and regrettably this is one such. As this matter goes to trial on Monday, the escalation of rhetoric was inevitable.

    I posted this article simply because there was a motion brought before the court in Ontario on Monday and a written decision had been rendered by the judge. I ommitted all comment on the motion and the decision, as I have complete faith in the BU family to read and come to their own conclusions, one way or another.

    Since I also have great respect and admiration, tempered by my reservations about his nepotism, but NEVER about his ability, integrity or judicial goodwill, for Sir David Simmons, I also pointed out the contradictions of one of his chief detractors, BFP. Sir David is a fine public servant who is not a wealthy man, although as top Queens Council he could have been had he not given his life to public office – he was C.O. Williams’ top counsel and that must have been nuff bucks he had to give up there. Sir David, distinct from many other politicians, has never used his parliamentary position to enrich himself – he is not a wealthy man – we all know this. This case in Ontario I would think has been a great strain on his financial resources.

    It burns me to see an upright public servant maligned and defamed by anonymous jackasses who constantly pick at him and write articles to suit themselves regardless of any sort of consistency, proper verification or truth. It is a tactic that, if not opposed vigerously by people like me without any conflict of interest of any sort, will ultimately make fine public servants like Sir David ask themsleves why they ought not to do what they are accused of and “cash in” since they are going to be accused of it no matter what.

    I did not agree with Sir David (as an MP) over Greenland and I still do not agree with him – but it was he and not myself who stood for election and who was elected by my fellow Bajans. I did not agree with Sir David (as CJ) on some of his appoitments to the bench, but it was he and not myself who was appointed CJ. However, his personal record as CJ is above reproach.

    I am particularly disgusted by the suggestion that Sir David (who has never “feathered his nest”) is held up to ridicule because he went from being attorney general to being chief justice. The way this is portrayed by Keltruth and BFP, one would think that there was no precedent for it. Well, Sir Michael Havers (attorney-general of the UK) went straight from being attorney-general to being Lord Chancellor and thereby the head of the Judicial Commitee of the House of Lords – the UK’s head judge. I wrote to BFP and pointed this out – and what happened? MODERATION!!!

    About the time Peter Allard arrived in Barbados, we had the IMF camped out in the office of the then Minister of Finance (David Thompson). We had a prime minister who actually lost a vote of no confidence and, in fairness to Mr. Thompson, had landed Mr Thompson with his own mess. With relief, we welcomed Owen Arthur as Prime Minister and with joy we watched as Mr Arthur sorted out our finances. Do we see praise for Mr Arthur for the things he did accomplish? No. At least not from Peter Allard, because he would not dance to Allard’s tune, so we can expect only censure to be directed towards Owen Arthur for the excesses of his last years in office.

    So what happens? BFP and Keltruth set about assisting in the overthrow of Owen Arthur and the elevation of David Thompson. However, Mr Thompson will not dance to the Allard tune either, so they commence their calumnies and slanders against him instead of Owen Arthur. They cite his not having introduced integrity legislation – but when he does, they try to rip it to shreds – no chance to implement and work out the kinks, but a dismissal of his efforts and the fact that he did keep his promise.

    I have a problem with this constant negativity. Yes, we have areas in Barbados that need to be addressed – and Bajans are something else once they spot those types of things. But we will address these ourselves and we do not need resident and absentee Bajans who are deep in the pocket of some Canadian with an agenda and an ego several hundred times the size of his billion dollar fortune to go around denegrating us on blogs and suing us in foreign courts that have no jurisdicition in an effort to attract negative press publicity that might adversely affect our country. If they reap what they have sowed, as long as it is non-violent and their property is not violated and no laws are broken, they have no one to blame but themselves.

    I rest my case.

  40. Avatar
    Anonymous

    The so called “personal information” published here should have been verified first.

    This thread has caused irreparable damage to Barbados’ reputation abroad.

    Careless propoganda has made innocent foreigners, who are already concerned for their own safety and that of their families, the target of this systematic victimization.

  41. JC Avatar
    JC

    stupse!

  42. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Well, Anonymous,

    please quote me what I said that you think has gone too far.

    What is your problem? Cant you understand English? You go read BFP and Keltruth and come back and talk about damage to Barbados’ reputation. Who is suing Barbados in a FOREIGN court? It is not BWWR, it is not me.

    Where do you get off? Who started this mess on the blogs? Look, mister man, dont get my rass mad. Keltruth started it and that was followed by BFP. You have no analytical ability whatsoever and you and everything you have said, “is without merit” as the Honourable Judge would say.

    You can get off the po or have a chit.

    Gypsy

    I may be an old yard fowl, but I can put you in my fob pocket any day – and have room left over for a watch or spare change.

    JC

    Seems like only three of us, are objective enough to see the BIG picture here.

  43. Anonymous Avatar
    Anonymous

    Pat // December 6, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    Seems like only three of us, are objective enough to see the BIG picture here.
    …….

    When staying up looking at a BIG picture on a wall always check the nail holding it up, particularly if the picture is bigger than you!!

  44. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    Anonymous // December 6, 2008 at 7:36 pm

    When staying up looking at a BIG picture on a wall always check the nail holding it up, particularly if the picture is bigger than you!!
    ***************************

    That statement alone tells a whole story about you.

    You ALWAYS look at a big picture from ten feet or more away, for best viewing. For one as large as the ‘Guardsmen’ ( commonly known as the Night Watch) because of its size at least 20 feet.

    I wonder how many art galleries and museums you have visited and if you really have looked at any BIG pictures.

    I am an aficonado and collector of fine PAINTINGS.
    Your analogy is pointless.

  45. Avatar
    Anonymous

    @ Pat

    You’ll figure it out sooner or later.

  46. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    Unbelieveable. Barbados is sued in a foreign court by people who use the blogs and anonymous comments as their grounds and as grounds for a ‘security report’ that says that Barbados is a savage, uncivilized country with a rotten judicial system and a corrupt government and whose off-shore banking is not nearly as good as Panama etc. etc. They post their personal information on their own websites and make all kinds of scandalous accusations about people on the internet. And Anymous thinks that those of us who defend Barbados and love our country and object to this kind of treasonous behaviour are causing irreperable damage to Barbados’ reputation abroad? Interesting concept. I don’t think it will catch on.

  47. BWWR Avatar
    BWWR

    Poor you, David. Seems BFP objects to your Christmas banner. Like the government, the former government, the RBPF, the CJ and every single thing to do with Barbados, including Barbados itself and its people, BFP doesn’t like your banner. Well, I like your banner. Christmas and Christ are both what we hold in our hearts, not trot out in an effort to score brownie points when it suits us or to use to bludgeon people with into making them agree with our views. Christmas and true Christians embrace everyone and all creeds and colours – they do not follow the teachings of the inquisition or follow the lead of the extremists of any faith, including their own.

    I love your banner, David. Let us leave BFP with its Thomson/Simmons-bashing banners and its message of hate for all things Bajan.

  48. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    David,

    I like your banner!

    Seasons Greetings to you and Yours

    Seasons Greetings to the BU household

    Happy Eid

    Happy Hannukka

    This is one of the few times when major religious holidays fall in the same month.

    Have a Happy Holiday whether you are Christian, Moslem or Jew. There is only one Creator.

    Pat the old hen

  49. » Efforts to Silence Witnesses in $500m Lawsuit Also Endanger Expatriates Keltruth Corp.: News Blog of Keltruth Corp. – Miami, Florida, USA.

    […] before yesterday, December 5, 2008, a blogger commenting on this post on the Barbados Underground site and calling himself public // December 5, 2008 at 5:02 pm, wrote: “We as the public of […]

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    You know, Keltruth, you are full of it. Anyone seen the latest Keltruth? Seems that the two old hens, Pat and myself, are accused of putting the Knox family in danger by giving out their addresses. Look above and you will see that the people who gave out their addresses were – THEMSELVES on Keltruth and BFP. But they don’t think all of we can read.

    The next thing they pulling at is that I have documents that they say only a defendant could have. But I am a defendant. I am a citizen of the Country of Barbados and it is my tax dollars that are going to pay lawyers to defend this frivilous lawsuit that they have brought. We are all defendants and we have the right to see documents in this matter.

    What Keltruth is really complaining about is that THEY cannot control who sees what. They are complaining because THEY cannot subjectively comment and post parts only of documents that support THEIR contentions. In other words, THEIR noses are out of joint.

    Life is unfair generally and for years Keltruth contributed massively to this unfairness. Now, however, some of us have tried to redress the balance so that Barbados can have the justice owed it, not only in the courts, but in the news media as well.

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