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In its latest, Keltruth starts: “I was ribbed for omitting to mention two scandals in a recent post, PwC has other problems besides Nelson’s Canadian $500 million law suit!” The thrust of Keltruth’s article is to complain about shell companies in Barbados. So, let us examine this carefully.

Our example will be an Ontario corporation called – guess what – Nelson Barbados Group Ltd. The self-same Nelson that is the plaintiff in the $500 million law suit that exercises the mind of Keltruth almost exclusively. If you go online and use http://www.canada411.ca/ you can look up Nelson for yourselves. And guess what you will get……a notice that says: “No Listing for “Nelson Barbados Group Ltd.” were found in “Orillia”. Try expanding your search location”. Now, we know that Nelson’s address is the same as that of the law firm of the Goat (K. William McKenzie) Nelson’s counsel, so the address entered is correct, according to the Ontario corporate records. Yet it is not listed for a telephone. Yet, Keltruth complains of this same thing in relation to Barbados companies.

Next up, let us do a white pages search – same site – for Donald Best (or D. Best) in Orillia. Mr. Best is registered as Nelson’s sole director. Predictably, there are no listings for any D. Best in Orillia and some 120 listings for D. Best/Donald Best in Ontario.

Please see link detailing cost paid by Nelson Barbados Group Limited

When I was a young woman, many years ago, and I wanted to get in touch with Kingsland Estates Limited or any of the other sugar companies, I would not have found them in the telephone directory. I needed to know the name of the plantation or the name of the manager of the plantation I wanted to reach and that is what would be listed. The Knox family, all of them raised, financed, educated, housed and supported by Kingsland Estates, of which Madge was a “directing mind”, know this.

These days, now I am an antique (or just old, depending on your perspective) many companies operating in Barbados do the same as Nelson has done in Canada. Their registered office is that of the office of their attorneys-at-law or accountants. Exactly the same pertains in any major off-shore investment country. There is no obligation for any company to have a telephone number as long as there is an address listed for them at Corporate Affairs to which mail can be sent. This, Mrs Accountant Kathy Davis, is called a “Registered Office”. There is no obligation for any company to submit it and its officers to a Keltruth and BFP witch hunt by listing a telephone number at which it can be reached. If Keltruth and BFP want to question any of what they stigmatize, with no grounds whatsoever, as “shell companies” then they can write them a letter. Of course, they would then have to provide a return address and give their real names.

A shell company is precisely that. Wikipedia provides that, “A shell corporation is defined in Barron’s Finance & Investment Handbook as “a company that is incorporated, but has no significant assets or operations.” As there is no obligation for companies registered with Corporate Affairs Barbados or its Canadian counterpart in Ontario to list their assets, how the hell does Keltruth determine, other than through the now famous psychic abilities of Jane Goddard née Knox that these companies are shell companies. More to the point, is there any evidence to show that Nelson Barbados Group Limited is NOT a shell company? The “proof of the pudding” will be whether Nelson has assets that can be charged if it fails to pay its legal costs next week. I can’t wait to see what will happens there and if the Goat, like Alair Shepherd, will be the ONLY counsel whose costs are paid by the losers in the Kingsland saga.

Bottom line: Keltruth complains of people hiding behind the very corporate veils behind which Madge Knox/Allard/Goat are hiding and, of course, takes the view that while it is quite in order to do that in Ontario (specially if you happen to be them) somehow doing it in Barbados is wrong. Interesting theory. Will it survive?

Just prior to my departure, Brutus asked if I could find certain judgments in the Kingsland Estates matter. My source has come up trumps and I am able to post both the original judgment of Greenidge J. in High Court Action No. 1805 of 1998 and that delivered by Chase A.J. in the Appeal. I am very interested, Brutus and Pat, to get your “take” on them.

Some while ago, Keltruth complained, supported by its toady and alleged fellow-Allard-supported blog, BFP, that certain corporate files were missing from the Corporate Registry and inferred that these had been stolen. Myself and others with intimate knowledge of the office in question, took up the defence on BU of the Corporate Registry, staffed by decent, overworked Bajans who, with the best will and intentions in the world, sometimes misplace some of the masses of files in their care. We explained that in our experience these files do always turn up. It seems that this is what has happened and Keltruth has reported it. However, has Keltruth also had the honesty or integrity or class to apologize to the staff of the Corporate Registry for suggesting unambiguously that they were delinquent in their duty of care and professional standards? Hell no. But there again as my dear late mother used to say, “You can’t expect a silken purse out of Madge Knox’s ear.”

Finally, Keltruth, as usual, right at the top of its diatribe, gets it wrong. Nelson’s suit is expressed in US dollars, not Canadian dollars as Keltruth has said. And please, Keltruth, do not impugn the sovereignty of Canada and of the United States as you have repeatedly tried to do that of Barbados by telling us it is the same thing.

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115 responses to “The Other Side Of The Kingsland Estate Court Matter Part IX”


  1. Mrs. Knox DID indeed offer the same as Classic for the shares of the other shareholders. In fact, she offered MORE. But the directors fought valiantly, allegedly racking up millions in legal fees, to avoid receiving MORE for their shares. They preferred the LOWER price from Classic. The courts did not appear to find this suspicious. The Law is a funny thing!


  2. Iain Deane said: “The estate is also a landowner in Barbados, such land being vested in me a executor.”

    Yes, Iain, you are the executor. Mrs. Knox is a beneficiary who has not received what was willed to her by her brother.


  3. As I have said before, there are many matters before the Courts to which I and the estate of my late uncle are parties and I would consider it extremely disrespectful to those Courts (by whose decisions and orders for costs etc. I fully intend to abide and honour) were I to discuss those matters or anything relating to them, except before those Courts.

    I am satisfied that it is not in any way disrespectful to those Courts for me to apprise my fellow readers of Barbados Underground (since the issue has been raised and does not relate to or impact on any pending or determined litigation) as to the amount of passports that I may or may not have and what citizenships I hold. I have also suggested the compelling reasons that make frequent trips by me to Barbados not only a necessity, but a great pleasure and I would also add that I have a sister, a nephew and great nephew who are resident in Barbados and for whom I have tremendous affection.

    That is all I have to say. That is all I intend to say.


  4. Iain

    So how many times in the past 12 months have you actually visited your 90 year old frail father?


  5. Anonymous, none of your damed business.


  6. Mr. Deane, some people have no manners or broughtupsy at all and Anonymous clearly is one of these. In my view, your position is 100% correct and I respect it. I believe most people will agree on this. The fact that you have three citizenships is by no means unusual in Barbados. Many Bajans have moved away from Barbados to pursue their professions and taken out citizenships in the country they are working in. In my experience this does not mean that Barbados does not hold pride of place in their hearts. On the contrary. Usually, absence makes the heart grow fonder. It certainly did mine when I was away from Barbados working for all those years. Also, when you are working overseas, the requirements of that work can sometimes mean that you cannot always get back to Barbados as often as you would like. At one point, because of work, I didn’t manage to visit Barbados for over three years. But we Bajans always come home at some point – it is our little rock and, even when we are vexed with it, we still love it.


  7. Anon 3:
    “The fact that you have three citizenships is by no means unusual in Barbados.”

    But is it common for people to hold conversations with themselves?

    Anon 3 is clearly another Iain Deane alias.


  8. @ Iain Deane,

    I wonder why you responded. I was having such fun speaking for you.

    Funny, I have multiple passports. Depending on where I am going I decide which one or two to travel with. For instance, on a Bajan passport you dont need a visa for Egypt, while for Tanzania you pay only $25 for a visa. On my other passports, I would pay more, up to $100 for a visa. However, while travelling in some countries I always use a “first world” passport. Or, I use one to get in and another to come out.


  9. I remember you from the Registry from my days in articles very well and with great fondness, Pat, the only bright spot in an otherwise dull and exceedingly dusty environment. And I have enjoyed your speaking for me, but cannot say whether I always agreed or not due to court reasons.

    As for making a comment, I sometimes do. Most recently, I felt that I could make a contribution to the travel agent issue. Travel (and by extension, passports) is a way of life in my profession. It has nothing to do with issues before the courts, which I cannot discuss, so I feel I have the right to blog on them. I was also somewhat surprised to discover that I had managed to slip in and out of Barbados undetected on so many occasions. Like you, I don’t do anonymous – well, neither does Anonymous, not very well anyway.

    I was equally surprised that any ex patriot Bajan, with family in Barbados, was required to submit a schedule of their visits to Barbados and reasons for same.

    There was a time that I held three passports and I used them like you. I recall that one Saturday back in 1992 I was asked to start filming on a theatrical ad for Inter Continental Hotels and would leave on location the following Tuesday – for Cairo, then Tokyo, then Sydney,next Aukland and an overnight flight to Argentina (where memories of the Falklands War were still green) and then on to Rio and from Rio to Paris, Amsetrdam and then back across the pond to Washington, ending up some weeks later with a severe case of jet lag and exhaustion in London.

    At the time, we needed visas for many of the locations – so my UK passport was sent to the Japanese, my Barbados passport to the Ozzies and my Canadian passport to the South Americans. Some one asked me why I would send the Barbados passport to the Ozzies as it was unlikely they would ever have heard of Barbados. I pointed out that this was not true, as we were in the habit of administering a beating to them at cricket at least once a year – and by the way, had the idiot never heard of Garfield Sobers.

    But that was when I was acting. These days I don’t do that any longer and in my field (businessman – with the emphasis on producing classical music events) I am unlikely to be faced with such stringent deadlines. So, I have only one passport and it contains details of my place of birth (Barbados) and my British patrial and citizenship status and, along with my Canadian Citizenship Card, I can go anywhere in the World. It also saves me quite a bit of money in passport renewal fees.

    Actually, it is better that way because, also in 1992, I did a guest spot in a American CBS Network series that was shot in Eilat in Israel and we travelled from London to Israel on El Al. Even then, the security restrictions before you could board the plane makes the post 9/11 precaustions look weak. What really disturbed Israeli security people was finding my three passports during their search and the only thing I had going for me was that they were all in the same name – seems that had I been a spy, they would have been in different names.

    It’s been great to talk to you, Pat. It would be fantastic to meet up after these 40 years again some time. When next you are in Bim, if you give my sister a call (she is the world-famous Deane that my counsins at Keltruth have written about) she will give you my e-mail address.

    Bet wishes,

    Iain


  10. @ Iain

    It is a small world. I cant help laughing.

    We called all of you by your last names. Like Fitzwilliam, Serroa (who I found arrogant and rude) Haynes, etc., but I never linked you. Were you there when he (serroa) reported me to the Registrar because he wasted time downstairs and wanted to browbeat me to take his docouments moments to three o’clock? Just because I asked them to line up!

    How was I to know who was first in line with no line? hahaha! At the end of the day they all had to line up. This was after I dealt with W.O.O Haynes and Rochester from Nova Scotia.

    Did you realize that the two guys behind me used to give me hell because I made more than they? We got extra for our “A” levels then and they did not have any. lol

    I may be home in February next year. I will be in Jamaica for Christmas and an aunt who lives states side, whom I have not seen for a while may be going down. I will see.

    I had problems at Schirpol in 1986, with the Israelis. I had business with ESA at Nordydk (?) and in the departure lounge one of the dogs fell for me. lol. But it was quickly resolved. I think they smelled the herring I was smuggling in my hand bag.

    I travelled quite a bit with my jobs. I have had many as I was more of a ‘generalist’ and not a specialist. I was in London in 1996 meeting with DTI and at Ashton in the same year. But most of my business travels were in the USA.

    I could have worked on APEC, but I was getting tired and stressed and was not looking forward to those long flights! Now I am retired.

    I promise I will not speak for you again. I also understand why you cannot talk. I am a good reader and I picked up where you do go to Bim and was there recently. Some people when they read, see only what they want to see.

    You do have a good memory. I did leave home 40 years ago. I suppose you must have left at around the same time.

    It was nice meeting you again. I miss Colin Williams. He was one hell of a gentleman. Had his eyes on me ‘methinks’!

    Looking forward to talking to you in the future. I will give your sister a call when I go home. Or, I may even call her from here.

    Keep good. Chin Up.

    All the best,

    Pat.


  11. Hi Pat,

    I was there at the same time as Michael Fitzwilliam and the other guy. As for Colin Williams, he and I were in articles together. Great guy.

    I did leave Barbados about 40 years ago, but I lived there again between 1993 and 2001. I expect that if I ever retire, then like most Bajans, it will be in Barbados. Like you I have lived all over. Only way to go.

    Please feel free to speak for me any time you want. I’ve really enjoyed it. And you certainly got the signs right. I was very impressed. I will e-mail sis and ask her to give you my e-mail and phone number.

    Best,

    I


  12. @ Iain,

    Thanks, you are too nice!

    Pat


  13. @All… As some of you might be aware, I’ve been a little busy lately…

    But might I please present the concept of the Quantum Uncertainty Field.

    This was discovered by some very bright people some time ago. (QED, et al.) It can be argued that the unknowable “Knowledge Membrane” (or “Knowledge Space”) can actually be quite large.

    Or, perhaps put another way, there are some things which can simply *not* be known.

    The phenomenon of anonymous communications (speaking from personal experience from the BBS days in the mid 80s on) brings this truism up to the tangible level of our very world views.

    Or, in the “high-bandwidth”: Most of what you “hear” is probably lies.

    Deal with it. Manage.


  14. Ironic… (smile…)

    That Anonymous post above is mine. (Just in case the pedantic style wasn’t obvious…)


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