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Although Hurricane Beryl skirted the south of Barbados yesterday, early damage assessment includes major damage incurred by the fisherfolk and related facilities.

Barbadians are inclined to be ‘mealy mouthed’ addressing the issues which contrast with the forthright comment from the blogmaster. It is well known a majority of the fishing boat fleet – many reported to have been destroyed or damaged yesterday were NOT insured.

One does not have to think too hard who will suffer the financial burden were government to bailout the fisherfolk who have delivered strident feedback to the Prime Minister when she toured yesterday. The blogmaster understands from a reliable source the principals at Port St Charles and Port Ferdinand offered safe harbour to the fisherfolk once they had insurance, however, only a handful were able to produce proof of insurance. 

On her first stop, Mottley met boat owners and other concerned fisherfolk who came to the complex on the Princess Alice Highway, The City, to salvage what they could from the vessels.
“The greatest damage is in coastal assets and coastal infrastructure. I am told by many of you [fisherfolk] that you have never seen these kinds of waves, this kind of force, come across this part of the island.
“But the most important thing is, we do not panic from here on in. You have life, that is the one thing I can’t give back to anybody,” Mottley said around 3:50 p.m., close to two hours after Barbados was given the all-clear.
Several senior Government officials, such as Minister of Home Affairs Wilfred Abrahams; Minister of the Environment and the Blue Economy Adrian Forde; Kerry Hinds, director of the Department of Emergency Management; Chief Fisheries Officer Shelly-Ann Cox, were gathered.
There was a persistent strong smell of diesel as the fisherfolk assessed the damage and attempted to remove fish stored on the boats. High sea swells continued to crash into the wave barrier, the ripple effect of which was boats hitting the dock.

Nation Newspaper – 2 July 2024

There is therefore merit to the following observation:

Should the Barbados taxpayer have to pay for any bailout for fisherfolk if one is being planned?

Why doesn’t the Fisheries Unit insist on insurance as a prerequisite for annual registration? Is this a case of the state failing to safeguard taxpayers?

Although it is fair to accept some fisherfolk may be suffering from money issues, many of them own two and three boats which were damaged or destroyed yesterday. The level of financial illiteracy and carelessness continually exercised by actors in civil society is unacceptable. The government as ‘guardian’ of the state has a responsibility to protect citizens and business players from themselves AND taxpayers.


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379 responses to “Fisherfolk, insure your boats!”


  1. Let everyone agree we can do better arising from recent events particularly exposed by Hurricane Beryl boat issue.


  2. Donna

    Which do you consider as “rudeness and impertinence?”

    Telling someone they lack comprehension skills are referring to Barbadians as ‘sheep’ and ‘domestic Bajans?’

    Could you imagine the hypocrisy of that guy, who remained ‘tight lipped’ when BU contributors, including the blogmaster, were being called, ‘wild beast, savages, hyenas, wild barking dogs, slimy pigs and buzzing flies?

    It’s simply a case of the ‘dog licking who he likes and biting who he dislikes.’


  3. ***** OR referring to………..


  4. Artax,

    I’ll tell you a liitle about how that “market research” works sometimes.

    About thirty years ago, freighting was going well for black people. Then a heap of fellows got to understand that it was going well for the few black truckers and decided that they wanted in.

    And how did that work out for them. Every man jack up and buy a truck only to discover that there was no available work. What did they do? They found somebody inside the office to reveal what the established trucker was charging and they offered to do it for less. And the established trucker, having been informed by another office worker, did likewise. And on it went until $450 per containee became $250 per container.

    At which point, the established trucker pulled out and left the newcomer barely making ends meet.

    Needless to say, the customer did not benefit from the reduction in freighting cost. 🤔


  5. “Let everyone agree we can do better arising from recent events particularly exposed by Hurricane Beryl boat issue.”

    “If you chat with some of these ‘poor black fishermen’, their definition of a good life is catch some fish, give a percentage to women folk, drink some rum, slam a domino.”

    If these fishermen were too busy humping and drinking as alleged
    then they probably were too knackered to secure their boats

    Fisher Man Style


  6. Artax,

    You know how it is on BU. It’s a clique, an old boys’ club, an established pecking order, complete with “oh he who shall not be challenged”, except most respectfully by the one who disagrees with him on most things but called me cunt for disagreeing with him only on one thing. Neither of them now deign to acknowledge my presence. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Funny thing is, I still give stars when I agree with them. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    Donna does not do cliques! It is why I stepped back from many things in Barbados.

    But, I never tire of studying humans, and BU is a place where I can do it without having to deal with them.

    As I always say, our problems begin in the mind. And BU gives insight into why our problems persist.


  7. For the record “this guy” does not give likes, but will comment on posts if I find them to be excellent, hence my recent silence.

    I saw two numbers pop-up in a post: one hundred million and two hundred million dollars. Instead of swinging into attack mode, I will simply ask a few questions
    (1) How many boats were damaged?
    (2) What is the average cost of a damaged boat
    (3)What exactly will be done with this money

    My father was also a fisherman, but he had a small wooden moses. He has passed on, but I know he would have love to be here to get one of these steal boats.


  8. Here I go! swinging for the fence! Will it be a hit or will it be a miss?

    Small confession: I am a man who loves numbers. Instead of claiming that God was a Bajan, I have often thought that he was a mathematician. There were incidents that happened to me where I thought he was a comedian who was having a good laugh at my expense; but I, this sometimes believer, have been blessed though lately he has been trying me and testing my patience.

    But I digress.. To me there is nothing more frightening than numbers produced by a Bajan. I suspect their method of estimation is to put all the number in a hat, then shake the numbers up and then carefully select only the largest. Or perhaps, they start with the amount of money they want to make, then add a number that sounds reasonable to it and then give a bogus number about the amount of product they expect to receive.

    White Hoax, the slogan, the steal houses and the port scammers; we still have to wait for the KO (knock out) numbers and it appears some preliminary work was already done for the steal boats. I have nothing to say about the population numbers…. I will not even mention them.

    Mission statement: My desire is not to please or displease, but to awaken your suspicions and to make you more alert. Dedicated to the truth no matter how bitter it is presented.


  9. At this stage assessment of the damage is ongoing, there is no official number to work with and it is obvious it will include more than physical repair to the over 40 boats damage or destroyed so far.


  10. Joke of the week
    “We are asking them, ‘don’t juck out we eye’,” The words of Kemar Harris- Chairman of the Fisheries Advisory Committee.

    I was speaking to a friend, and I mentioned that fish prices are sure to rise it is basic economics (Supply and Demand) and other alternatives may also see price increases as in never let a good crisis go to waste.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2024/07/05/plea-against-price-rise-amid-fisheries-losses/

  11. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    To revive the fishing industry we just cannot look at boat repairs and replacement. We must envisage a new , modern industry, that will take its proper place within the economy. We need to visualize an industry that has modern processing plants; fishing/aquamarine as a subject from Kindergarten. We need to have local brain power involved in making our ocean an economic hot spot. Oh well………..


  12. Two comments
    @1
    It bothers me that we can have the financial estimates before most of the relevant data are available. (se 2)

    @2
    My question was “(3)What exactly will be done with this money”
    As in 1. Anyone can throw out any number. at any time. It would be good to see what went into that number before it gets cast in stone.

    Here is the sequence I would like
    (a) Data collected; (b) plans made … these two can be interchanged; and (c) financial estimates provided. When they start with (c) I am out.


  13. The problem is hurricanes that pass south of us.

    The North-East quadrant is deadly.

    We all know that by experience since Janet

    So where would the safest place for boats be apart from dry land?

    North!!

    Give a marine engineer the task of making anchorages in Cove Bay or saying why that would be a bad idea.

    The Fisheries Complex is not a safe harbour in such hurricanes.


  14. @William

    That should be the plan. Out of a crisis as they say opportunities abound.


  15. How can you have financial estimates before the official assessment is complete which involves retrieving damaged and sunk boats?


  16. The new-fangled term is the blue economy.


  17. Bajans going home for Crop over can buy Mahi/dolphin at Costco and take with them.


  18. @Hants

    You are on a roll.

  19. Chris Halsall Avatar

    @BU.David: “Let everyone agree we can do better arising from recent events particularly exposed by Hurricane Beryl boat issue.

    Everyone can always do better. No one is perfect.

    I would like to thank you David for providing a Forum where free and open thought can be expressed and debated about issues impacting our little island of Bimshire. For how many years now?

    Some are even brave enough to use their real names… 9^)

  20. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    We rallied the COVID set back rather well. Nobody was looking for perfection. We have the opportunity to be forward thinking. Unfortunately the political stupidity has started and it shows our lack of maturity. We just can’t shake a lot of petty nonsense. Imagine that we have just witnessed the destruction of an industry that is as much a part of our socio-economic culture as sugar cane, but we finding the time for personal jabs and political crap trap. We may never learn. Perhaps, we don’t want to. Time to drink a rum and slam a dom.


  21. “How can you have financial estimates before the official assessment is complete which involves retrieving damaged and sunk boats?”

    I like that. Do you see how he took my argument, flip it, and posted it as his own?
    Didn’t I ask how many boats were damaged? Tey say about 40 were sunk.
    Isn’t $100-200M a financial estimate
    Haven’t I been trying to get how these numbers were arrived at

    Next thing I will hear about is comprehension skills or sarcasm.

    –xx–
    Hey, I was developing a bit about the green economy, the blue economy, food security …
    No peeping on my puter


  22. “How can you have financial estimates before the official assessment is complete which involves retrieving damaged and sunk boats?”

    It is called an “Initial Analysis”

    1. Identify and then Investigate the problem

    2. Determine if the problem is big, little or medium sized

    3. Estimate how long it will take to do a deeper detailed and fuller analysis


  23. @William

    Yours is a fear that is real. The level of political polarization is suffocating. It has gone past ignorance. We should relook our national budget allocation to education.


  24. How can your question be answered if damaged boats are being g recovered? The point is that any figure posted about cost to redo the fishing sector it is just a number. Let us have a serious discussion.


  25. Steuspe

    A big part of determining a number is insurance cost. That sector has not even met with stakeholders.


  26. @Hants
    Bajans going home for Crop over can buy Mahi/dolphin at Costco and take with them
    ++++++
    I travelled to Barbados twice this year, on both occasions I took back dolphin with me as Costco prices had increased too much for me. Still have some in the freezer.


  27. So you are telling me that a serious discussion can be based on numbers pulled out of a hat.
    Well sir, having given this considerable thought I’m leaning more to $500M.
    Can you tell me what is wrong with my hat?
    Why is my hat wrong?

    Waiting for the rescue team to arrive. I can hear them coming. Arrival time is 10 minutes max (got that out of the same hat)


  28. “Some are even brave enough to use their real names… 9^)”

    You have already said this before many a time (estimate circa 100 times)

    I have said this too about the power of naming things..
    Being able to name an object or person or being gives you power over them.

    Indeed the power of naming is akin to the power of writing. To write is to have power over something, to understand it, to manipulate it, to tell alternative version of it.

    That’s why wizards would not use their real name which was always kept secret to protect them from the dark arts.

    +Plus it is disconcerting and discombobulating when people on Bu cuss you out using your real name and not a nickname

  29. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David,
    There will be no change of this political culture anytime soon. We keep saying that we have too many in high places who have no ideology nor philosophy, they just go with the flow and their main focus is to walk up the steps of Parliament, which in itself, is great goal , if we are going in their with a clear purpose . That’s why they can have convenient memories at critical moments. They can switch parties and constituencies , depending on how they feel when they get up on mornings. So, let the plight of the fishing industry fade into the background and concentrate on winning the constituency.
    Where there is no vision the people perish. Let’s hope our devastated fisher folk and their industry do not.
    Garbage in , garbage out.


  30. In past discussions I have suggested that Gov’t encourage the study of Marine Biology and Oceanography amongst young people. We have to treat the Ocean not only as a place to play but as a resource and an opportunity for development. The BLP promised to build some artificial islands in its Manifesto. I know that manifesto promises often go the way of the dodo but did someone ever think of how that would affect the ecology of the area? Every year people bemoan the fact that Flying fish are “scarce” but fish migrate so perhaps if we have “experts” in place they can advise the Minister of the Blue Economy that the Sargassum seaweed is not responsible for the absence of Flying fish from these shores.
    ++++++++++

    I wrote the above in August 2018 in the attached blog. Don’t know if there has been any movement in those areas of study but certainly hope that is the case.

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/08/29/corruption-dry-talk/comment-page-2/#comments

  31. Chris Halsall Avatar

    @555dubstreet: “You have already said this before many a time

    Yes. Because I beleive it is important to stand behind what one says. Rather than hiding behind an alias. But, hey… I’m an old guy.

    There is a saying… If you can’t name or messure something, you can’t control it. We won’t go into “dark matter” (physics context) in this post.

    I just wish that more people would have the confidence to speak their mind openly in a public forum.

    Fear is irrational.


  32. Recommended Reading for Christopher Hallsall

    The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula LeGuin

    and also Words Are My Matter
    It is a manual for investigating the depth and breadth of con- temporary fiction—and, through the lens of deep considerations of contemporary writing, a way of exploring the world we are all living in.


  33. “Hard times are coming, when we’ll be wanting the voices of writers who can see alternatives to how we live now, can see through our fear-stricken society and its obsessive technologies to other ways of being, and even imagine real grounds for hope. We’ll need writers who can remember freedom—poets, visionaries—realists of a larger reality. . . .”

    https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/874602.Ursula_K_Le_Guin

  34. Chris Halsall Avatar

    @555dubstreet: “Recommended Reading for Christopher Hallsall

    The last name is Halsall. Christopher Halsall. Three Ls. And, I have already read what you referenced.

    Have you read The Prince? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prince

    I am very comfortable being attacked. And standing alone.

    Deal with now.


  35. Sargeant
    July 5, 2024 at 12:06 pm
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    In past discussions I have suggested that Gov’t encourage the study of Marine Biology and Oceanography amongst young people.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Back in the 70’s, a contemporary of mine did just that on his own dime, or rather his family’s.

    Could not get a job, not even with the GOB!!

    Went into farming, seems to have done well … last I heard he lives in Fort George Heights.


  36. “I have already read what you referenced.”

    Unfortunately Bajans are well known and renowned for bluffing about books which they have not read

    “The Rule of Names”
    each citizen of Earthsea has one name as a child, which they abandon at puberty in favor of their “true name”, but this name must be kept private as it can be used by ill-intentioned magicians to control the individual.

    In particular, the use of “names” in the title, along with the use of “word” in “The Word of Unbinding”, solidifies this message in the first two Earthsea stories. Specifically, within the Earthsea realm, knowing another man’s or dragon’s true name gives one power over them; as a result, sharing one’s true name with another is an act of complete trust.

    Most of the people of Earthsea are described as having brown skin. In the Archipelago, “red-brown” skin is typical; however, the people of the East Reach have darker “black-brown” complexions. The people of Osskil in the north are described as having lighter, sallow complexions, while the Kargs of the Kargad Lands are “white-skinned” and often “yellow-haired”. Le Guin has criticized what she described as the general assumption in fantasy that characters should be white and the society should resemble the Middle Ages

    Magic is a central part of life in most of Earthsea; the exception being the Kargish lands, where it is banned. There are weather workers on ships, fixers who repair boats and buildings, entertainers, and court sorcerers. Magic is an inborn talent which can be developed with training. The most gifted are sent to the school on Roke, where, if their skill and their discipline prove sufficient, they can become staff-carrying wizards.


  37. Many of the boats in the complex are second hand, bought mostly in Florida and brought back by their captains.

    Fiberpol used to make them as well as William Ince RIP at Cottage.

    Lost touch with the industry from the early 2000’s but spent the 90’s working on the electronics some of which is really sophisticated.

    At that time swordfish were attracting a premium. Most believe it or not were exported to foreign markets.

    The longliners would go to sea for days and return once their iceboxes were full or fuel was low. Their catch would be boxed and sent to the airport.

    GPS, sonar and sea temperature established where they were in the fishing ground.

    These “fishermen” are extremely highly skilled professionals, foreign exchange earners.

    One fellow used to tell me that the female cashiers at the banks were always after them because they saw the large cash deposits the fishermen were making.


  38. @Williams

    The blogmaster as you know tends to lean on the side of being optimistic. One senses that those boat mashup fiasco has struck a chord that is reverberating across all segments of society. Let us see how Mottley priorities itS


  39. @Sargeant

    We have had a few that traveled to Florida to study the subjects you suggested. As far as these things go they never returned to Barbados so that we can benefit.


  40. A friend of mine from school studied marine biology. Got a PhD too. She worked right here in the field for most of her adult life and is now in Jamaica.


  41. “Where there is no vision [AND NO HOPE] the people perish.”

  42. Chris Halsall Avatar

    @Donna et al… What did Adam and Eve do?

    I grow tired of all the excuses. The blames.

    Just get the job done!

    Or is that too much to ask?


  43. Chris Halsall,

    There is no doubt that the system is rigged against us. There is also no doubt in my mind that, regardless of circumstances, better can be done.

    How many of us can say that we have done our utmost to overcome the obstacles in our path?

    Even the most resistant to criticism should be able to accept that even if we don’t reach the top of the world, we can surely make the bottom more comfortable. 😊

  44. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ David
    No doubt the disaster has touched the entire country. It’s not how any politician respond it’s how we all respond. However, we note the same negative ,stereo type sociological profiling is entering the picture.
    Why with such a calamity befalling us, we can’t at least show the politicians and others that we are ready to be partners in this industry’s recovery then engage in petty diatribe.
    We seem bent on fighting old senseless battles.


  45. Listen.


  46. Mía Mottley talking shiiiite again.

    Bamboozaled by her way of preaching, only death can stop this juggernaut.

    Like Tom, Dipper

  47. Chris Halsall Avatar

    @Pachamama…

    There is a saying… Lead. Follow. Or get out of the way.

    I am apolitical. I don’t care.

    But if one cannot provide some positive paths forward, don’t place roadblocks.

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