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The ongoing ‘situation’ brought about by the application of sitting member of parliament Ralph Thorne to the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) has morphed into the laughable. The majority of onlookers anticipated Thorne’s application would have been routinely accepted and just like that the DLP would have used the lifeline to regain relevance in the eyes of an electorate that rejected it twice in two general elections and in a by election. Not to mention access to a subvention naughtily withheld by Prime Minister Mottley to blunt the effectiveness of the duopoly.

Last evening news broke that the 26 member DLP Executive voted to delay making a decision on Thorne’s application because it is a road the party has not travelled before. In fairness to the DLP Executive one can understand the hesitance because of the implication to the leadership of the party.

Any other new member applying for membership would have been accepted once the rules of the DLP were met – “All persons of the age of 16 years and upward are eligible for membership of the Democratic Labour Party, provided that: (a) They are nationals, citizens or residents of Barbados, or their descendants; (b) They are not members or supporters of any other political party in Barbados; (c) They are not members or supporters of any group or organisation whose object are prejudicial to incompatible with those of the Democratic Labour Party.” In this case by accepting Thorne’s membership, as a member of parliament he becomes political leader of the DLP, a situation that will marginalise incumbent President Ronnie Yearwood, whose role would demote to being administrative..

Thorne has not helped his effort to smooth the transition by appointing two Senators, Watson and Walters, without it seems consulting the key players on the DLP (executive). It appears to be a miscalculation on his part given the deep divisions known to exist within the party. To date Yearwood has struggled to mend those fences and Thorne’s entry appears to have given life to the ‘old guard’. A guard that was soundly rejected at the polls.

The DLP finds itself in a situation where an incarcerated Donville Inniss sits on the DLP executive BUT former member Thorne has to wait to be admitted. The irony!

Whatever happens from here initial comment from Barbadians ‘hungry’ for a relevant political opposition suggest disgust at the recent turn of events at George Street. A win win position maybe for Thorne to fire one of the two elected Senators and appoint Yearwood to the Senate, it would be the ultimate act of embarrassment by him to establish good-faith with the new DLP management AND President Yearwood.

The more protracted this matter gets the bigger the black eye and continuing fall from grace in the eyes of the public. One has to admit the public has become short on patience with the inability of the DLP to resolve differences as the so called government in waiting. If this continues the Barbadians Labour Party is waiting to do the unthinkable, three 30 loves!

Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive

Sir Walter Scott


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145 responses to “Chaos @George Street”


  1. Ralph Thorne’s political career to data has been a flip flop between DLP to BLP and then straight back to DLP again which could also be called a flop flip flop, where mediocrity will get you promoted to Leader of Opposition but nobody wants you


  2. Here’s a riddle for ya.

    100% of zero is zero.
    Zero times three equals zero

    What am I?

    The DLP are becoming a laughing stock and the public statements by the face(s) of the party display an unbridled arrogance (or ignorance) that few if any right thinking people would want to be associated with at this time.

    Leaders speak when it matters.
    Ronnie O spoke at length at a recent branch meeting about Thorne and him returning to the party. Now there is silence from him and stoopid statements from an increasingly despised Steve Blackett.

    Oh what a tangled web we weave indeed!

    Just observing


  3. The longer it plays out all the remaking of the party is being stripped away, it wasn’t much anyway.


  4. Hahaaaaaaaa!🤐


  5. Any opposition party worth its salt would have challenged the constitutionality of the unconstitutional parliament since 2018.

    The DLP is not serious.

  6. Political Pundits Avatar
    Political Pundits

    @David, why would Ronnie give up power and Ralph just ride in and just take over? Its not about the money. Egos and power are the flies in the oil. Ralph, cannot appoint two senators and expect the executive to accept that, very naive of Ralph. The DLP executives are mainly tainted and Ralph`s attitude to root out corruption is a treat to the old guard as it will hurt entrenched actors.

    Ryan, Tracia, Ralph will make Ronnie and the Steve irrelevant.
    Ralph, popularity is also fueled by the advocacy and rable rousing of the Marcia Weekes Show and he needs to jump on the bandwagon as well as their road shows.


  7. @Political Pundits

    What power does Ronnie have?


  8. “What power does Ronnie have?”

    he is better looking than all the competition


  9. Every time that the ineptness of the BLP comes to the fore, and suggest the urgent need for change, …the DLP manages to remind us of their recent and current descent into the pit of idiocy and self destruction…. much like when Froon came before the last elections talking shiite about ‘glorious days’.

    That these idiots could so seamlessly place an international, bribe-taking, convict on the executive council – and then be so MINDLESS when someone of Ralph Thorne’s pedigree seeks to hand them a life-line – CONFIRMS that this shiite party is ready for the undertaker.

    The DLP needs Thorne MUCH MORE than Thorne needs that weight around his neck.

    Ralph should CREATE a NEW DLP – (NDLP) ignore the set of idiotic jackasses, and set about EXCLUDING the dead wood from even coming over to his NDLP.

    What a shiite place!!
    What a curse on our tails!!

    If ONLY Froon had not planted that satanic Altar on the damn Garrison….
    Who knows… Common sense MAY even have stayed with us…..


  10. Posted to the Submissions page by Sir Frank Dickwood.

    An independent in Cayman was the deal breaker during the last election, stop the duopoly abuse.

    https://www.caymancompass.com/2021/03/01/independents-dominate-as-50-hopefuls-seek-election/

  11. Political Pundit Avatar

    @David, the power of his ego to speak out. If Ralph is strategic he would join the Marcia Weekes Motorcade and ride the wave. Do you think he will Dave? Ralph, problem is with the DLP executive who are uncertain of their future as they have no political currency.


  12. Agree with you Bush Tea. Thorne holds the ACE in the game and that should be what tilts any decision to be made in his favour. To resist will be at the greater detriment of the DLP. Some will opine though that the DLP should be allowed to die a slow and painful death.

  13. Political Pundit Avatar

    @Bushtea, do you think Ralph Thorne would want to have Donville around when he crusades against corruption and the need for transparency as well as integrity?


  14. Disagree Political Pundit. Ralph has to appeal to full segments of the Barbados population of which Marcia Weekes is a part. She has done a good job so far but to win this war will take more. Bare in mind who controls the economic power and therefore politicians in the country.


  15. By the way David..

    COMMON SENSE should tell us that the most attractive thing about Ralph Thorne has been his LACK OF SERIOUS COMMITMENT to ANY of the shiite Political Gangs infesting this country.
    Much like Hammie La, he serves the COUNTRY – and not any shiite Empress /Emperor

    Any Man that is prepared to stand on PRINCIPLE, Rather than on PARTY Policy is an asset TOO VALUABLE to be appreciated by brass bowls.

    Ralph even surpasses the likes of Bostic, who turned his back on personal success and prestige out of PRINCIPLE – since Thorne could EASILY have done the same (financially)

    Thorne’s offer to the DLP was therefore a case of offering pearls to swine….
    He SHOULD now avoid putting NEW wine in old leaky shiite wineskins…..

    NDLP!!


  16. Further, this situation is still being hatched. How Ralph responds to the incoherent noises emanating from George Street will be important to how he consolidates his position the constituents OUTSIDE the DLP cabal. It is an internal matter Mr. Blackett it is true but yet it is NOT!


  17. @Bush Tea

    We are singing from similar song sheets. It is obvious when Ralph selected his Senators he sent a clear message to the DLP before joining what was nonnegotiable.


  18. @Bushtea, do you think Ralph Thorne would want to have Donville around when he crusades against corruption and the need for transparency as well as integrity?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Of course NOT @PP

    No doubt this is the source of the hesitance in embracing such an outspoken man of integrity.
    Wuh…
    Satan never voted in favor of a bushman yet… LOL


  19. @Bush Tea

    You see that point about the prominence of Inniss siting on the Executive council? It started when Vela De Peiza delivered an address during the trial with his picture in the frame and also shows the lack of a power base by Yearwood in the DLP. It is bad optics to have the spectre of Inniss haunting the party at this time. His service can be co-opted in more covert ways.


  20. So David
    Bushie does NOT agree that Thorne erred strategically in his appointments.

    His moves have been PERFECT!

    1 – deflect the joke DLP shadow cabinet that has been assembled by taking LotO post.
    2- appoint persons with personal and national INTEGRITY values – to the senate
    3 – OFFER to work with the pack of DLP clowns…
    4 – If accepted, his team would have EASILY made the shadow chaff look like the jokers that they are…
    5 – if rejected – he now has FULL RIGHTS to ignore the deadwood, and proceed with the NDLP.

    Shiite man!! sounds like he has been talking to Bushie
    LOL
    ha ha ha


  21. The rank and file of the DLP voted for Yearwood to lead the party but one of Thorne’s first act was to appoint Yearwood’s primary opponent to the Senate and leave Yearwood on the outside looking in. From all reports it appears that the old guard ( Haynesley Ben et al) is using Thorne as a Trojan horse to remove Yearwood as leader and wunnah losing wunnah shirt because he wouldn’t acquiesce and move on.
    I don’t have a dog in this fight but isn’t the DLP supposed to be looking to the future? Why should it revert to those tainted by inefficiency and scandal for leadership?
    The old guard wants to elevate a man to lead the party simply because he crossed the floor.


  22. @Bush Tea

    No issue with the appointments BUT there is the bridge to cross which based on the current state of play could back fire on what we have to assume are honourable intention by Thorne. The devil some say is always in the detail.


  23. @Sargeant

    Your comment is correct but you must apply context, the DLP was in shambles post 2018 and even before and this cleared the way for new players to emerge. It is getting to the business end of the election cycle AND the old guard never relinquished power at the back end. This is the struggle we see playing out today.


  24. Who said a second interview is a rejection?
    Perhaps the candidate is being considered for a better leading role.
    Seems like the general consensus is BLP are bad but DLP are worse.


  25. Yet again we have the DLP chaos @GeorgeStreet playing out under the glare of the public.This seems to be infuriating rank and file members of DLP membership more than anything.

    Navigating the challenges

    DLP at the crossroads

    The following article was written and submitted by Ronald D. Jones, Justice of the Peace.

    Barbados, known for its vibrant political landscape, has witnessed significant shifts in recent years, particularly within the Democratic Labour Party (DLP). The party, once a formidable force in Barbadian politics, faced devastating consecutive defeats in the 2018 and 2022 elections, leading to internal disquiet and changes in leadership.

    There was the resignation of Ms Verla De Peiza, who served as the party’s president after the 2018 defeat. Following the electoral loss in 2022, she resigned and gave the party an opportunity to mend. This action marked a crucial turning point. Interim president Mr Steve Blackett managed the party during this transitional period, paving the way for Dr Ronnie Yearwood to take over as president in July 2022. Yearwood’s election brought an interesting twist to the narrative.

    A former member of the Barbados Labour Party (BLP), Yearwood had an unsuccessful attempt in securing a nomination to contest a seat in the 2018 elections in St James South for the BLP. Despite scoring lower votes than his predecessor in the 2022 elections as a Dem, he ascended to the role of president within a year of joining the DLP.

    However, Dr Yearwood’s leadership has not been without controversy. Allegations of strategic errors in promoting unity in the party, alienation of mature party members, and the recruitment of inexperienced political allies have fuelled internal discord. The party, once showing the public a united front, now faces internal divisions, with many questioning Dr Yearwood’s commitment to the collective cause.

    Another layer of complexity

    In the midst of this upheaval, the recent shift in political allegiance by lawyer Mr Ralph Thorne adds another layer of complexity. Mr Thorne, formerly associated with the governing party has now become the new political opposition, expressing a desire to align with the DLP. His decision has garnered support from within the party, with calls for him to assume a leadership role.

    The DLP now stands at a critical juncture with a spectrum of options before them. Dr Yearwood must evaluate his role within the party and address concerns raised by members. Bridging internal divides, mending relationships with disillusioned party veterans, and revisiting the party’s strategic direction are imperative for the DLP’s revival.

    As for Mr Thorne’s request for re-membership, the party must approach it as a dynamic relationship. Open dialogue and a thorough assessment of Mr Thorne’s alignment with the party’s values and goals are essential. While his support brings potential advantages, careful consideration must be given to the impact on party unity and public perception.

    The DLP faces a challenging but transformative moment in its history. Navigating the current political landscape requires a collective effort to reconcile internal differences, rebuild public trust, and strategically position the party for future elections. The choices made in the coming months will shape the DLP’s destiny and influence the trajectory of Barbadian politics.

    Take into consideration that Mr Thorne left the DLP after some seven years of affiliation to the DLP. He has significant support at the rank-and-file level of the party. He is knowledgeable, articulate and brings a perspective to politics that has further endeared him to many DLPites and the wider Barbados.

    The potential collaboration between Dr Yearwood, the current president and Mr Thorne presents both challenges and opportunities for the party. While their combined strengths could provide a robust leadership dynamic, it is crucial to assess the advantages and disadvantages each brings to the table.

    The DLP, facing internal divisions, could benefit from a unified leadership front. Dr Yearwood, as the administrative leader, could bring stability, while Mr Thorne, with his seven years of prior affiliation and significant support, offers political experience and a proven record.

    Impact public perception

    Mr Thorne’s return to the DLP could positively impact public perception. His knowledge, articulation, and unique perspective on politics have endeared him to many DLP supporters and a significant section of the wider Barbadian public. A unified leadership may signal strength and coherence to voters.

    With Mr Thorne as a potential political leader, the DLP gains a strong voice in Parliament. This is crucial for the party’s relevance and effectiveness in challenging government policies, contributing to a more balanced political landscape.

    Balancing the roles of administrative leader (Dr Yearwood) and political leader (Mr. Thorne) may pose challenges in terms of power dynamics and decision-making. Clear delineation of responsibilities would be crucial to avoid conflicts.

    While Mr Thorne has support at the rank-and-file level, integrating him back into the party may cause friction with those who opposed or were indifferent to his previous departure. Careful management is required to ensure a cohesive and harmonious party.

    In Barbados, two senators are chosen by the opposition leadership. Mr Thorne chose two representatives who incidentally were members of the DLP. This move raises several considerations and potential implications for both Mr Thorne and Dr Yearwood.

    Dr Yearwood, as the current president, may feel sidelined or overlooked by this action. If there were expectations or hopes for him to be chosen as one of the senators, the decision may create tensions and affect the working relationship between the potential party leaders.

    Choice of senators

    But take into consideration that Mr Thorne’s actions in choosing two senators who were members of the DLP might have been only incidental and he was at the time acting in an independent capacity.

    If Mr Thorne acted independently, it implies that his choice of senators was not necessarily driven by a specific alignment with the DLP but rather by his own assessment of capable individuals. This might mitigate concerns related to the potential exclusion of the party’s leadership in the decision-making process.

    If Mr Thorne acted independently, it would be important for him to once again clearly communicate his intentions and reasons behind the senatorial appointments to both the DLP leadership and the public.

    The DLP, in understanding the incidental nature of Mr Thorne’s actions, may need to assess how this aligns with the party’s values and expectations.

    The DLP, while acknowledging the independent nature of Mr Thorne’s actions, should still consider the impact on internal party dynamics. It may prompt the need for clearer guidelines and communication channels regarding party-related decisions, even if made independently.

    Accepting Mr Thorne’s re-admission demonstrates a commitment to an inclusive and open political environment. It sends a message that the party values a diversity of perspectives and is willing to welcome back former members who share common goals. The DLP has a history of accepting without reservations the re-application of members who had previously left the party, consistency in applying this standard is crucial. Treating each case fairly and without apparent selectivity helps maintain the party’s credibility.

    Denying Mr Thorne’s re-admission might be perceived negatively by the public, potentially leading to questions about the party’s willingness to embrace new voices and ideas.

    Accepting Mr Thorne’s nomination for membership could be a strategic move to strengthen the DLP and foster unity within the party. The key lies in managing the process with transparency, addressing any potential challenges, and presenting a united front as the party moves forward in the evolving political landscape. Anything less will bring about the major rupture in the party.

    Source: Nation


  26. “But take into consideration that Mr Thorne’s actions in choosing two senators who were members of the DLP might have been only incidental and he was at the time acting in an independent capacity.

    If Mr Thorne acted independently, it implies that his choice of senators was not necessarily driven by a specific alignment with the DLP but rather by his own assessment of capable individuals. This might mitigate concerns related to the potential exclusion of the party’s leadership in the decision-making process.”

    where else should he have selected two opposition senators from?


  27. David, in my opinion, Sargeant has, so far, provided this forum with an excellent synopsis of the issue. Based on what I read, Thorne left the BLP on a Friday to ‘cross the floor,’ was sworn in as Opposition Leader the following Monday, after which he immediately chose two DEMS, Walters and Watson as his Senators. Then he ‘quickly made haste’ to join the DLP. It is important to bear in mind the reactions of Yearwood and Steve Blackett thereafter. The series of events clearly suggests Thorne communicated and held discussions with certain DLP members, prior to ‘making his moves.’


  28. @Artax

    All that is relevant at this time is that whatever talks Thorne held have not borne fruit. The devil remains in the detail.


  29. A whole seat, two senators and maybe a subvention but the Dems need to deliberate more. Go figure! Hurry up and approve the membership do so the DLP can get buried, again. I hope the Mighty Hoppa ready and able to defend Dem. Ronnie(wh)O can always return to the hive after all the Hoppa did it.🤣🤣


  30. @Enuff

    Politics is a nasty business, the line between members of the hive is very thin. These unfolding events makes one look forward to what successive plan the BLP has in place to avert a similar crisis. Then again, leaders emerge in the moment don’t they remembering how Sandiford emerged above the late Richie.


  31. David, was Ralph Thorne originally a member of the BLP? Did he subsequently joined and ‘ran’ for the DLP?


  32. How is that relevant in the current situation Artax?


  33. @ David
    @Enuff is chortling at the dilemma that the DLP finds itself in, guess the battles between Owen and Mia is old news.
    The past is prologue to the present.


  34. Not me! I more laughing at the BU maguffies who as usual mouts changing faster than yuh can say jack sprat since last week Friday.


  35. Unable to comment. Cannot understand what is happening here. Difficult to understand the reasoning of some. They refused to appoint two senators and now want Mr Thorne to reject his selections.

    I give up


  36. Bushie

    Yuh right as shiiite, on all counts.

    To this writer it maybe that the DLP, and we’ve seen this elsewhere, is so arrogant, so imbued within its culture of failure, with a gang of idiots on some execute council, that it would prefer to spurn the one lifeline it’s had in 15 years to really seek another path.

    That internal culture of failure will never change itself. And we admit that culture change is the hardest thing organizations must do. Can’t you look into thr face of the socalled president and see an idiot, trying to do something for which he has no aptitude?

    Certainly, it does not help when you have empty headed assouls, like the socalled president and a motley bunch of deadbeats pretending to sit in judgement of an attempted process which may sideline themselves.

    But this is exactly what is needed – a radical transformation from without, if this socalled party is to avoid everlasting death. For nobody within this dying party could ever beat Mottley.

    Ralph Thorne, with whatever imperfections he may have, represents the courageous talisman to present a chance of political survival.

    Only a chance!

    This idiotic reluctance of these fools to deploy bureaucratic maneuverings will hurt the party, hurt Thorne’s leadership and shall be self defeating.


  37. David, I heard and read people expressing the view that Thorne in his recent efforts to rejoin the DLP, is ‘returning home.’ And, why is it when these ‘political grasshoppers’ shift back and forth between B and D, people who either hate the political party they left or support the one they joined, are quick to defend them by describing them as ‘honest politicians of integrity who put Barbados and Barbadians first, instead of political party.’ Yet, on the other hand, they readily accept the BLP and DLP are members of the duopoly. That there aren’t any significant political, ideological and philosophical differences between them. That perspective indicates the relevancy of my question ‘in this current situation.’


  38. @Artax

    Thank you for expanding. There is some merit in your skepticism BUT when few alternatives are available to stoke hope this is why the proverbial optimism shown by some.


  39. For what’s its worth , fact or fiction :
    Donville Innis , was tried for certain crimes and spent time in a USA prison. He returned to his country after serving the time. We were always of the opinion that once you paid the penalty for the crime, you should be free to enjoy all rights and privileges as any other citizen.
    Unless the Constitution of our country clearly states otherwise, Mr. Innis must be allowed to exercise the freedom of association.
    Furthermore, as far as we know, he has never been tried for any crime, by his country of birth. We don’t recall if he was ever questioned by the law enforcement agencies of his country on any criminal matter.


  40. What nonsense have you posted William? We are debating politics and the optics that flow from making ill judged decisions. This is not a class of political science 101. It is similar to late PM Stuart allowed to speak during an election campaign. There is something called commonsense for godsakes.


  41. Bushie
    Yuh right as shiiite, on all counts.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Thank you Boss!
    I hope dat you know that this ‘right-as-shiiteness’ ALSO includes the pronouncements outlined in Isaiah chapter 3……

    de Damn Chapter is CORRECT to a ’T’……
    LOL


  42. @ David
    I merely made an observation re: Innis. I leave the fancy stuff to others because my views on both parties are widely known. What are the current “optics” of our country at this time ? The only optics are excessive doses of embarrassing political public relations , rising poverty and widespread disillusionment with excessive bungling and perpetual political one upmanship, , buttressed by the ever-present, sickening partisan hypocrisy, on all issues. These are the optics with which I am concerned. Maybe we could call them ” reality optics”.


  43. @William

    You stated a truism but unfolding events at George Street calls for greater analyses from the citizenry, especially someone like you who has walkes the ‘path’.


  44. What does the dlp Constitution say on this matter.
    Since there are no rules and guidelines wouldn’t it be wise to entertain having an ammendment written into the Constitution to address the issue in case a similar issue arises again
    This two leadership concept opposition leader in Parliament and a party leader should not be entertained without proper legal and Constitutional guidance
    Hence figuring this issue out cannot be simply seen out of political lenses but what effects it can have to party and well being of country


  45. @ David
    A little political history :
    Ralph Thorne once tried to get a nomination for a constituency against the current PM. He was of the belief that he was not supported by the well off in the party.
    He then joined the DLP and contested two elections and failed. Some years later he went back to the BLP. By then , he was a highly successful lawyer and had a reasonable public and professional profile. He reaped success at the polls.
    Thorne has now fallen out with the BLP and is hoping to return to the DLP. So, optics and political gymnastics, not withstanding ; the only difference in this crossing , is that Thorne with his well earned professional status and what some perceived as not being financially burdened , is now in the supreme position of being a bona fide member of the political class.
    An old BLPDLP family feud continues. Friendly fire.


  46. Yearwood’s impassioned plea for DLP unity and his pledge of a new inclusive politics prompted spontaneous applause from party members, bringing some to their feet.

    “I am committed to a different politics, the practice of an inclusive politics, the practice of a new politics.”

    Using a biblical reference, he declared: “There is room for everyone under this big tent. Do not let your hearts be troubled, for there are many rooms in this house and if it were not so, I would have told you. . .” (GBM)

    https://nationnews.com/2022/08/21/yearwood-dems-moving-new-direction/#

    Ronnie0 got to practice what he preached


  47. What is playing out does not say Yearwood does not welcome Thorne, it says that both factions have to be aligned to some kind of plan and this is obviously the pain point which the DLP needs to solve post hast.


  48. Thanks for the history lesson William BUT is it fair to compare Thorne’s crossing today to times past? What Barbados has been experiencing post 2018 is unprecedented, there is an opportunity for Thorne to rebuild the DLP from the inside to make it more relevant. There has never been this opportunity.


  49. Dr. Yearwood leadership style on this issue must carry merit
    I would submit that if Errol Barrow was handed this irregular circumstance that would have impacted the dlp
    He would in no uncertain terms send Thorne a message indicating he should get himself fully aware and accustomed to the dlp Constitution him Thorne being well versed in Constitutional matters and the dlp is not a rug to step on for anyone’s convenience


  50. @ac

    Perhaps the “irregular circumstance” is a DLP party that has been in decline sense Barrow departed, unable to revamp itself to align with modern demands. The BLP is not very far behind behind by the way. Both parties are personality driven.

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