The BBA and DC maybe have received a dose of its own medicine.



In today’s press former member of parliament and prominent criminal attorney Michael Lashley has expressed “ fears that lawyer-client privacy at police stations is under threat, based on the Barbados Police Service’s findings in the “cell phone under the table” incident”. His reaction was to the incident where a cell phone was found taped under a desk at District E in a room used by attorneys and clients.
The blogmaster has no problem with the Barbados Bar Association (BBA), Faith Greaves, a junior lawyer at Michael Lashley & Associates, expressing outrage at the incident. Obviously an attempt was made by someone to subvert the process. Unfortunately, Barbadians have tolerated repeated attempts by officialdom to rub the brown stuff in our faces. What the incident exposes is a level of corruption perpetrated by actors responsible for honouring the justice system.
Given the nature of your complaint, a forensic analysis was conducted to this cellular phone by the Regional Security System. The forensic analysis of the cellular phone was carried out to determine whether it was fit for use or carried any recorded information thereon.
“That forensic examination revealed that the phone was unserviceable and that there was no recording on the phone. That the phone had no bearing on the matter involving the attorney-client privileged communication. The forensic examination also showed there was no link between the investigations involving your client and the cellular phone.
Nation newspaper
The protest coming from president of BBA who rightly issued a statement expressing, “dissatisfaction with the reply that was forthcoming from the Office of the Commissioner of Police is laughable. A detailed response to the letter will be given early next week”. The statement is appropriate in the circumstances, but, BBA and its sister agency the Disciplinary Committee (DC) have been guilty of behaving in similar fashion. How many complaints from the public have been frustrated by the two agencies over the years? There is no question the many unresolved complaints from the public have led to a dim reputation the legal profession currently enjoys in Barbados. Members of the BBA who repeatedly use the defense that only a small number of lawyers are incarcerated therefore it is an overreaction to label the profession crooked, disregard one consideration. What if the many complaints lodged with the BBA and DC were thoroughly investigated?
There is a saying what you sow, you will reap. The BBA and DC have received a dose of its own medicine. Who knows how the phone was placed in the multipurpose room at District E. A simple suggestion would be for the police to search the room BEFORE lawyers meet with clients? The blogmaster fears this matter of the taped cell phone to a table is the tip of the iceberg as it pertains to how ‘things’ are done in Barbados by actors citizens trust.
Nothing to see here by denizens in this fair land. The Commissioner of Police has issued a statement, “…the occurrence of this unfortunate incident is sincerely regretted. We assure you that measures have been already adopted to further secure the private privilege of attorney-client communication at police stations”. Here endeth this laughable saga. We wonder why the public, especial today’s generation, does not have confidence in the police force? How will policing improve in the prevailing climate of distrust? How much is our judicial actors – lawyers, judges, policemen, officials at the registry et al – to blame for the current state of affairs?
By the way, can we have an update on the work at the Police Complaints Authority?
The cell phone was incapable of making a recording due to its condition. End of story.
Having established that no crime was committed, should a citizen be found with an unlicensed firearm and his/her attorney establishes that it was incapable of firing a round, that too will be the end of the story, I trust. No further investigation necessary.
So too, should a person be discovered behind the wheel of a vehicle parked at the side of the road and that person is intoxicated, there will be no further action when the car is proven to be incapable of being driven due to a dead battery. End of story.
The Whole BB place is a colossal JOKE.
The more eddykated we have become, .the more ‘tupid we have been behaving.
Wisdom is a funny thing…. THERE IS ONLY ONE SOURCE,
…and a BB is a fellow who has rejected that source.
The problem with brassbowlery is that it produces more and more shiite – no matter how hard you try, or how pretty the big boss can talk…or how much you borrow…
If only we had eyes to see and ears to hear,
…PERHAPS some BBs would seek to return to the ’source’ of wisdom…
…but we are too eddykated and knowledgeable for that….
What a curse!!!
Reminds Bushie of Pharaoh’s thinking AFTER the damn frogs….
What did you say Bush Tea? Barbados is a blessed place?
Source: Nation
What did you say Bush Tea? Barbados is a blessed place?
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It was!!
…until wunna build the ‘Satan Altar’ at the damn Garrison…
You think that God hard-up for brass bowls to bless?!!!
steupsss…
Self inflicted curse in we collective donkeys.
I seem to recall that the RSS played a key role in the removal of the Trinidadian from Barbados.
They can change the letters around but all of these systems have the same goals … protect the status quo and to misinform and to deceive the public. They will cover for each other to do so.
UNLESS THE FBI TELLS ME THAT THE PHONE HAD NO RECORDINGS OR WAS NOT SCRUBBED OF DATA THEN THE DISHONEST BARBADOS POLICE FORCE OR RSS HAS NO CREDIBILITY IN THIS MATTER.
THIS IS PAR FOR THE COURSE ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND.
David, the RSS is a REGIONAL para-military, law enforcement agency that, among its responsibilities, gathers and disseminates information/intelligence relative to the national security of regional territories, drug trafficking and others crimes, as well as assisting regional law enforcement agencies. Information indicates it also receives military and law enforcement training and assistance, for example, from the US military, US coast guard, FBI, INTERPOL etc. Since its establishment in the early 1980s, I cannot remember hearing anything to suggest the RSS engaged in any activity that questioned its reliability and integrity. I’m sure you will agree that UWI and RSS are among the few successful regional institutions. Based on technical, financial and human resources available to the System, do you actually believe its hierarchy would purposely compromise its stellar record and integrity, to falsify a simple forensic analysis of a mobile phone? (20 marks)
@Artax
The RSS can only examine what was given to it.
David, you are correct. Short, simple answer.
Is this the same FBI that historical and current information would suggest corruption and dishonesty…… or, is there another US law enforcement agency bearing a similar name?
@Artax
You are allowing yourself to be led down a rabbit hole.
Why would anyone tape a phone to the underside of a table in a room where an interrogation of a person is being conducted ?
In my layman’s opinion it could only be for a possible nefarious reason.
” The Cell Phone Destruction Process
Destruction providers start by collecting yours and other cell phones, hard drives, and various electronics from other customers for shredding. Next the electronics are loaded into an industrial shredder where they’re broken into unrecoverable pieces.”
I hesitate to give the RSS a free pass. The rapid removal of a citizen from one Caribbean country to another is a source of extreme concern.
The way the story developed /died we cannot be certain that extradition protocols were obeyed or breached. This made it clear that the RSS’s action supplements the ‘military/police’ power of these little nations.
What else is contained in its bag of tricks? Its pristine reputation may only be a demonstration of how the RSS can conceal its activities. Peel off the virginal white sheets and you will see an ugly American (USA) hiding under it.
Didn’t our AG pronounced on this matter by accepting some blame on behalf of how the various actors executed?
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/police-fell-short-of-legal-norms/article_b0471304-eedb-11ed-92d4-b342ad03d4e5.html
David, in simple terms, TTPS shared intelligence with BPS, but did not apply for an extradition request. BPS acted on information received, according to protocol…. but reacted without the request. I believe BPS made a judgement call perhaps based on the urgency and seriousness of the situation. Remember, police did not find anything after searching his hotel that could have been used to charge him with a crime. And used his outstanding arrest warrants in T&T as the basis to detain and arrest him. I believe this is a sensitive issue, which maybe the subject of a Court hearing. If so, then you cannot fault Marshall revealing as much information as is necessary to the public at this time, lest he prejudiced the process.
@ David,
A “burner phone” is a cheap, prepaid mobile phone that you can destroy or discard when you no longer need it. In popular media, criminals often use burner phones to evade detection by authorities.
@Hants
Do we know what kind of phone was taped under the table?
“Barbados Attorney General Dale Marshall says the Barbados Police Service fell “somewhat short of applicable legal norms” when it apprehended Trinidad and Tobago national Brent Thomas without an extradition request last October”
I am somewhat surprise that a man of your knowledge and experience would fall for “mistakes were made” excuse. This is the explanation without providing any information; the admission of guilt without saying who is guilty and what penalty will be imposed; and the apology that is directed towards no one.
I remember being amused when we asked ac to loosen the weave. Perhaps the time has come to ask you to put away the goblet. We question the nature of what you are drinking. Stay Kool. Aid is here if you need it.
(The last two lines were cheap, but I found it so amusing I had to post it)
Phonegate.
Who taped the phone to the underside of the table ?
Cmon Hants why ask a question like that?
It was there for nuff nuff time. It en even wukking.
Just don’t get arrested in Buhbaydus. Ask Prescod…but wait I hear that case done.
Who taped the phone to the underside of the table ?
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@Hants…
COULD have been an accused person looking for evidence that his lawyer’s final bill does not exceed his verbal quote (cause wunna done know that there will be no chance for an AUDIT after the case)
COULD have been a lawyer looking for a technical dismissal of a case on the grounds that certain privileges were breached…
COULD have been an officer gathering evidence – (ahhh… using modern technology)
COULD have been left there when the Building was constructed, by the Contractor – to eavesdrop on workers
COULD have been left by the warden who had a prisoner boyfriend – to see if he spilled any beans during questioning..
Shiite, wuh it COULD have been taped to the table by the officer in charge – to detect if the room was being used for any nefarious nocturnal purposes not authorized by police policy (like sleeping on duty for example… 🙂 )
…passing strange dat the tape just decide to ‘release’ when a lawyer was in the room..??!!
Of course, in a NORMAL country, that phone would have been checked to see who last USED it; who purchased it; who registered the SIM CARD in it, and perhaps even whose FINGERPRINTS was on the phone, tape, underside of the table etc…
But NOT BOUT BB HERE…!!!
De phone can’t record – so no crime, NTSH!!!
(perhaps it is OK to eavesdrop LIVE, …but yuh CANNOT tape um…
Looka – any shiite is possible in Bim)
Just like the ‘radical’ money ‘get thief’, – so ‘no crime’ was committed…
Dr. Doobad steal houses lay in containers rusting… so NTSH….
No audits have been done on Client’s funds, so we have GREAT lawyers….
Most SOEs have no current audited financials – so they CANNOT be doing badly… LOL
What a place!!
What a serious CURSE…!!!
Wait, Bushie. How do you KNOW if the forensic analysis of the mobile phone did not include ‘checking to see all those things you highlighted,’ which are obvious reference points for such a detailed scientic examination? Or, were you present during the process?
@Artax
It could be Bush Tea read this Nation report.
Source: Nation
@Bush Tea
The blogmaster’s wish is for the BBA and Disciplinary Committee to pursue complaints lodged with the same energy as it seems to be doing with this taped cell phone matter.
Wait, Bushie. How do you KNOW…
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Bushie don’t KNOW one shiite…!!!
But the bushman KNOW someone who KNOWS EVERY shiite… 🙂
@ David
What Bushie would like from the BBA is for them to shut their donkeys… UNTIL THEY DEMAND THAT ALL CLIENT FEES BE AUDITED, and deal with the multiple cases of lawyer robberies of the unsuspecting.
It is like having the damn Mafia complaining about the CIA’s underhand tactics…
David, because the report did not mentioned anything about ‘finger prints, SIM card or ownership,’ does not necessarily mean that information was not gathered during the investigation. Perhaps you may not want to admit it, but the Bushman is a resible guy, who sometimes ‘talk a lotta shiite’ and jokes and insults his way out when he’s ‘backed into a corner,’ as evidenced by his response to ny question.
@Artax
Based on today’s Nation report there is consensus that it is an empty one which explains why the Criminal Committee of BBA is advocating for more to be shared to explain what is a serious breach of privacy.
Another thing, David. Perhaps John Griffiths hoped the BBA had exhibited a similar amount of zeal when he was begging Micheal Carrington for over 2 years to release his (Griffiths) funds.
Agreed Artax. The BBA appear to be cherrypicking because it puts their perennial‘ enemy’ in the criminal space on the defensive.
**** RISIBLE, not resible.
Commission (Barbados): A rubber stamp without a fixed shelf life. It operate until people forgets its purpose or returned with a result that was known from Day 1.
Essentially, a toy train with all the bells and whistles
Essentially, a toy train with all the bells and whistles
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Not even that!
Commissions are shiite trains with a lotta hot air… and a waste of borrowed money.
Toy trains serve a PURPOSE of entertaining and inspiring intelligent children.
@Bush Tea
Did the Duffus Commission serve a purpose? To confirm what we know? We elect dictators aka Bigworks leaders.
A Commission of Inquiry? Dis place is bare jokes, looka the whole thing went awry when the lawyer handed over the phone to the force’s version of “Dudley do wrong”. I am surprised that it even acknowledged that they received a phone, they could have said “phone what phone?” Instead, it came up with the lamest excuse of all the phone was “unserviceable” whatever that means but didn’t address the elephant in the room as to why a phone was taped to the underside of a table where lawyers are supposed to be able to speak to their clients in confidence.
I am left wondering how many cases have been compromised because of surreptitious recordings of conversations between lawyers and their clients over the years. I also wrote about “chain of custody” as even if an inoperable phone was produced how will anyone know whether it was the phone that was discovered taped to the table.
I feel the lady lawyer planted the phone. Then made it look like it had been there for an unknown time. Wasn’t a current MP questioned about circumstances around some of his fooping in said room?
Sweet fah daze.
District E is Holetown.
The blogmaster joins with others to hear the same outrage directed at Barbados Bar Association and Disciplinary Committee.
Source: Nation
A few years ago Lashley was a member of the cabal who did not one rh to change the course of events that is responsible for current state.
Source: Nation
Comedy!
Source: Nation
David, District E (Speightstown, St. Peter), is not Holetown station. The only thing both stations share in common is being in the northern division.
It was an honest mistake Artax, thanks for pointing it out.
https://www.nationnews.com/2023/10/05/lawyers-want-safe-space-every-station/
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At times when I read some of the stories here I want to scream, cry and hurl my computer through the window.
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“an attempted rape case which was dismissed by a magistrate last year after the police failed to produce a file for eight years.”
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Police “had indicated there was no evidence and no file because the lead investigator had passed away.”
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“there seems to be no copy of the file and although the virtual complainant handed over physical evidence, it seems that evidence has also disappeared”
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Victim’s statement
“the magistrate let me know that it was against [the accused’s] constitutional rights that he keep appearing in court every date and she could not move forward with the case because the police could not find the file.
He got up smiling and talked to the magistrate and walked past in front of me and walked out of the court. I felt as if I was being violated all again. In my mind I was asking, what about my constitutional rights?”
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It should already be clear that I am no lawyer or expert at anything, but I pride myself on my ability to put myself in the shoes of the other man and I can tell you that it is often an uncomfortable fit.
Do you recall that a case against a lawyer was delayed for years and then thrown out because 3 victims died. I think there should have been an investigation into those multiple deaths.
Now we have a case that cannot go any further because of delays and the death of a police investigator.
Can a murder accuse walk free because an investigator died?
What filing system do we have that files can just disappear?
A lot of money was spent. Is there not a filing system?
Is there not a depository (electronic or otherwise) to store case notes?
How many cases must our police bungle before we admit corruption?
How many phones must fall off a desk before we see corruption?
My God, can you tell me what must happen before we scream at injustice rendered?
Do we honestly think that hotels and fancy speeches are a measure of how civilize we are?
Do we honestly think that we can prey on the weak and be considered a fair and just society?
Do you realize that even with our numerous lawyers, courts and judges the laws of the jungle are obeyed.
We may be “punching above your weight” but we are punching the elderly, women and children.
For Christ sake, stop your abuse. Stop your criminality?
I am thoroughly disgusted with the wordsmiths who lack the courage to say “We abuse our children, we rob the elderly, we rape our women and men go free”.
Must it happen to a loved one before we speak out? Can’t see the bodies of victims of abuse piling up and yet refuse to condemn those who do wrong? We make awards and fancy speeches whilst our society slowly rots away?
Victim’s statement
“I never went back to the house where I was living. I have tried my best to forget this whole thing. For two years, I couldn’t sleep – my son had to sleep with me in the bed. That is the worst thing anybody can go through . . . .
“The only thing I didn’t take to scrub off my skin was steel wool.
People see me outside like everything is good and dandy but when I close my door at night, I does get all these memories. I go back to being a prisoner in my house.”
I cried again today. I could be like some and pretend, but I feel the pain of this victim My mother and sister are women and one is old. My mother already an encounter with a lawyer.
Of course the victim deserves sympathy and justice. However, the accused has the fundamental human right to ‘presumption of innocence,’ whereby everyone charged with a criminal offence shall be presumed innocent until proven guilty according to law, and the right to a fair trial…. whether or not we may disagree with this process. And likewise, if the accused was our father, brother or son, we would want those rights extended to them. But, the death of the lead investigator exposed weaknesses in the system, which should be addressed immediately.
…and who has the fundamental right to take EIGHT years to prosecute a rape case – where the accused and victim are both available?
..or is there a fundamental right to have a ‘friend’ deliberately force delays until the case is compromised by death ..or just time?
What a damned place…
@Bush Tea
Here we are again, a dysfunctional process that screws up everything for one side or rhetorical other. Where is recourse for all that defines justice?
Yes, David. But, isn’t it ironic that Michael Lashley, who is NOW complaining, was a Cabinet member of the previous administration and ACTED as Attorney General on several occasions?
Where is the OUTRAGE from ordinary BBs to such an unjust, uncaring, mediocre system..?