Submitted by Observing
The dust has settled, the people have spoken, and we now prepare for at least 3 ½ years of BLP governance. There are many issues and factors which impacted the result, including campaigns and candidates but I have chosen to highlight those that were considered fringe but were still collectively significant.
Chris
31 months of silence only to emerge to “counter program” our Sunday Sun with a narrative on the Prime Minister’s great traits and Mrs. Depeiza’s negative one. Definitely blunted anything Lucille Moe said (not that she had much of an impact anyhow) and reminded a large enough percentage that it should have been him after David. They speak about a woman scorned but it seems a Chris scorned is even worse and more bitter.
Timing
With 18 months to go and a full majority in hand the dice were rolled knowing that the other players weren’t ready. Politically sound and brilliant. The result speaks for itself. We can debate constitutional changes to a PM’s power for snap elections but the gamble paid off, politically at least. Otherwise I am not so sure. The Omicron spread will be an entirely different beast. The return to school is the first casualty. There will be more. As TheoGazerts said in another thread, the government would do well not to view this a as a sweeping/clear mandate.
Covid and Turnout
A large amount of persons still remain in their curtilages up to this day even without Covid. Many of these are older persons. I am certain that many did not venture out to vote. Also, 4000-5000 persons were not facilitated to vote. A turnout of 43-44% in a modern democracy is the inevitable result and should be cause for concern. Effectively the ruling party has received the support of 28% of the voting population. Let that sink in for a bit.
Guy Hewitt
The contest for President of the DLP over the last tow cycles took some nasty turns. It is reminiscent of the primary battles of United States politics. Guy Hewitt’s pronouncements on Mrs. Depeiza and the ensuing brutal battle however left lasting damage. First, because the statements were perceived to be true. Second, because they occurred close to the election and before she had any chance to recover, consolidate and groom her young team. The rapid disappearance of the said Guy rather than a kumbyah moment also lent to the view that the DLP wasn’t ready and the leadership battle is far from over.
Freundel
Glorious years? Seriously? Stupse. Won’t bother to waste any more words on this one.
BLP Solidarity
It is a known secret that there was trouble in the BLP camp. The “pick up stumps and go home” move forced the hands of those that may have wanted to be eager. True to form though, this was NEVER spoken about on the BLP’s side. No one denied it, no one hinted at it, no one even acknowledged it. This is the existential difference between the two parties. One airs its laundry in public. One pretends it has no laundry. One bludgeons itself with barbs pointed inside rather than outside. The other is polite and vague even in criticism. One looks for ways to divide itself hoping for spoils that will lead to victory. One focuses on victory first, spoils after. I think all Bajans know which is which.
Mia Mottley’s stature
Perceived personal flaws aside Mia is a lifetime shrewd politician whose 2018 insurmountable margins made it near impossible for the DLP to make inroads. Couple this with recent international acclaim and it was always going to be difficult. The DLP erred in focusing on Mia again too much, but then again what do you expect with Steve Blackett as your campaign manager. Hopefully they finally listen, learn and allow the new candidates to grow in their positions and focus on ISSUES rather than the INDIVIDUAL. There is still room for them even against Mia but they have to take heed. It is an indisputable fact that she is not as popular locally as she would lead us to believe and she is definitely not at her 2018 levels and still falling.
Special mention: The Biggest Losers
• ALL of the Old Guard
• DLP strongholds of St. John and St. Lucy
• Joseph Atherley
• Voices of opposition in the country
• Trade Unionism
You are right David. Bajans got the government they voted for and deserve.
“You would have to say that the election was for 30 seats on the board of management of the club to be comparable and the 300 members were divided into 30 groups, one group for each seat ….. lets say 10 members each.”
@ John
YOU CANNOT ‘TELL’ ME WHAT I SHOULD’VE ‘SAID’ BECAUSE I ‘SAID’ WHAT I INTENDED TO ‘SAY.’
IF YOU DON’T AGREE, THAT’S YOUR PROBLEM.
The nerve of that guy ‘telling’ me what is “badly flawed” or not, when he INCORRECTLY ASSUMED what were my intentions.
Did I ‘tell’ you or anyone that my scenario was based on the elections?
You should have asked a question first before rudely intervening.
Source: Nation
Source: Nation
The headlines are not thoroughly correct saying that bajans voted does not give the truthfulness
Only 40percentbof a nation voting is an insult to democracy and a slap in the face to a ruling govt
The disenchantment with politics and politicians was written all.over the results
There was a message of mistrust sent to both the winners and losers
There was nothing to celebrate when the truthfulness of Wednesday election signifies that the bajan electorate is disgusted enough to put its democracy at high risk
Instead of lights action and camera and winners jumping up and down
There should have been bowing of the heads in humility as govt Ministers took the oath of office
Have a look at your beaten candidates, they seem worried to you? Why did Blackett feel it necessary to issue a public statement to disassociate the DLP from the petition filed by these BSP candidate?
https://twitter.com/ksmith_official/status/1484585209710493702
If that comment was meant towards me
Bro I do not speak on behalf of any candidate
My comments are of my own thought process
What any candidate choose to do in the face of defeat or winning is up to them
All I am seeing is a country so let down by politicians that they boycott a process which took hundred of years for the people to recognize as a right of passage to keep the democratic process on the straight path
Today that should be more of concern of yours than stoking the fire of yardfowl politics
Each comment you post exposes a high order level of hignorance that knows no bounds. Make the point that we need to find solutions to energize the electorate, which has more to do with a ethos of distrust for politicians. Instead you prefer to go rabidly partisan.
#90love
You need to ask yourself how many DLP voters did Freundel silly outburst help to dissuade from voting. You should ask why Verla rapped Dawn-Marie on the knuckles but ignored Stuart.
And for the record the blogmaster predicted 5 seats for the DLP more out of hope for an opposition rather than deserving based on performance.
Going back to the beginning, the blogmaster and others on the blog caution the DLP it was moving too slow, it needed to shed deadwood, Verla as caretaker manager was not effective if the goal of the DLP was to enhance the image of the party post 2018 shellacking etc.
Now you coming back to the blog with same crap. Go and listen to Austin on Facebook like if he knows what is happening in Barbados.
BU intelligentsia keeps harping on about voter turnout in Bdos even when it’s in the 60%+ range. The same folks, however, celebrate winners in other countries with voter turnout around 54% outside of a pandemic. There are several reasons why people did not vote, many of which have nothing to do with being anti-government. The reason for floating the LVTO narrative is about ego saving. You know who you are. #redwashredux#30-0#61-0
“Only 40percentbof a nation voting is an insult to democracy and a slap in the face to a ruling govt”
Voting is not compulsory / mandatory in Barbados
Fines for non-voters would probably be protested
but, could raise a heap of money
150,000 x $100 = $15,000,000
DavidJanuary 22, 2022 7:42 AM
You need to ask yourself how many DLP voters did Freundel silly outburst help to dissuade from voting. You should ask why Verla rapped Dawn-Marie on the knuckles but ignored Stuart
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There u go again engaging in more yardfowl politics
Steupse
The blogmaster has been saying for years your head is like moon rock.
Today we have Blackett as caretaker president for 3 months, the same Blackett who delivered on the platform of that infamous DLP Waterford meeting. You cannot make this rh up.
“You need to ask yourself how many DLP voters did Freundel silly outburst help to dissuade from voting. “
Freundel figurehead talking head represents DLPs final glory days
Mia must be the most radical Bajan
ahead of BU self labelled radical armchair activists
The blogmaster has been saying for years your head is like moon rock.
Can you specify who
it sounds like you are cussing others
Barbados democracy is on the tipping point of disaster and one early morning yardfowl rooster rather associate himself with finding scratch grain to pick through
Those who showed up as well as those who did not had already made up their minds months in advance
Now trying to place blame on what was said in the last few moments of political rhetoric is laughter expected in the theatre of politricks
When will they ever learn that the people are disgusted
The only one who has to learn is how to digest 61 love and possibly 90 to come.
Digest rh that!
Department of Afro Bajan Research Arts & Culture
The Afro Bajan dig is more passive aggressive bitchy than other nations cultures
Could Guy have done any better? It is clear that the DLP thinking/strategy was all over the place.
Freundel suddenly appeared and put both feet in his mouth. It is now clear that his absence would have been the better course of action.
Guy appeared, caused division within the party and when things did not go his way took up his bat and ball and went home. It is clear that his total absence would have been the better course of action.
It would appear that Denis Kellman gave Verla little or no support in what was a former DLP stronghold (St Lucy).
Verla, captain of the DLP ship Titanic, met the iceberg Mia and lost. Can you imagine trying to steer that ship with the mess going on in the engine room.
Verla did as good a job as the crew would allow. Could it be that the ‘internal opposition’ to Verla was that she was seen as not having the ‘pedigree’. Let’s get that on the table?
#speculative
Guy’s participation may have removed the old guard narrative that we have today AND the fact Verla never commanded the respect of DLP’s power base or favourable national opinion.
Ricochet / Ice-T
Yeah, Syndicate’s in the house
Yeah, Geto Boys in the house
Yeah, Donald D’s in the house
Yeah, Body count’s in the house
Yeah, Zulu Nation’s in the house
Yeah, Ice T’s in the house, yeah
You go on and on and you don’t stop
Got sticky sneakers from the blood of a shot cop
Bailed in the club, I’m leavin’ tracks on the white rug
Punk tried to rif and he met double-aught slugs
I ain’t the nigga to step to
Out catchin’ bodies and the next one could be you
Quick on the trigger, yo, I’m a gravedigger
Chop up a body and deep six ’em in the river
A night-stalkin’ psychopath
All cops hunt the black male in a ski-mask
But I’m too damn clever
Will they ever catch me? Never!
Because I operate in and out of state
Move at a quick rate
And never hesitate to take a chump sucker down
And my H-K it holds 80 rounds
So when you move be careful and don’t play
And watch for the ricochet
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
So shut up motherfuckers as I lay the ink
When I’m in Detroit, niggas fight in mink
When I’m in Chicago, motherfuckers get buck wild
When I’m up in Oakland, niggas roll in huge pile
In Atlanta, niggas crash you doors
When I’m in Philly, it’s a sold out tour
In L.A., I max out real hard
When I’m in New York, I build with the Gods
So don’t try to deny me my proper juice
E cuts the records and the yellow nigga gets loose
No static, just much respect
Truck my Rolex when I cruise the projects
A fly brother that’s hard to figure
I punch hoes and I smack up niggas
Cause I’m a pimp and a playa
Sometimes I bump hip-hop, the other times, Slayer
You don’t like it well stay out of my fucking way
Duck from the gunshot and watch for the ricochet
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
C’mon yeah
Yo D., what’s up?, suckers is popping lip
Grab the H-K and the dum-dum clip and spread out
I’m putting punk’s heads out
Doors is shut, there’s no chance to get out
I got the motherfuckas tied with bike locks
Raise the auto-loader and let off the buckshot
{gunfire sound} That’s how I like to do work
{gunfire sound} Got guts on my T-shirt
Motherfuckers tried to play the Ice
Because I rhyme smooth and on TV act nice
Soft, that’s what you shouldn’t have said
Now I’m so mad I’m bustin veins in my forehead
You want to get off, come on let’s rock
But have your safety off, and your shit cocked
Cause when I come to get that ass
Leave your whole fuckin’ block filled with hot brass
So punk, don’t make me pop my trunk
Show you my amps and my Mossberg pump
Cause when I pull it, most niggas run
Fool niggas stay and get hit by the ricochet
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Suicide, it’s a suicide, yeah
Niggas wanna know about me and the “L”, though
We squashed that shit with me and him about a year ago
But there’s a new rule starting tonight
Diss me on a record, see me, FIGHT!
Cause in the days, you used to battle on mics
{gunfire sound} Now it’s ’91, I’m using gauges and flashlights
Ease back and don’t give me no feedback
Yo, “Ice cool out”, yo, fuck that
I’m hot, I’m putting niggas in cots
Some get knocked out, some just get shot
Where’d I get all the juice I use
Gotta posse full of brothers with nothing to lose
Some just got out, some will never
Some beat their cases cause their lawyers were clever
I love’ em all and they know that’s true
So they won’t blink while they doing a punk like you
Freeze motherfucker
Get on your knees, hands behind you back
Bow your heads, if you will please
I’ll swing my axe, watch the bodies fall
Watch your head bounce off like volleyball
So all you motherfuckers down with the fly guy
Look me in the face, if you’re strong when you walk by
And all you punk niggas talking shit
Step to the side, bow your head like a bitch
I don’t play, you’ll get hit by the ricochet
You’ll get hit by the ricochet
You’ll get hit by the ricochet
“Verla did as good a job as the crew would allow. Could it be that the ‘internal opposition’ to Verla was that she was seen as not having the ‘pedigree’. Let’s get that on the table?”
I agree
Mia should employ her
Leader of Opposition?
“Party stalwart Irene Sandiford Garner said the development should come as no surprise to Barbadians, as it was the right thing to do after such a heavy defeat.”
Here we have a party that seem unable to attract a significant portion of voters, with most staying away from the polling station trying to pin the blame on Verla. It was a heavy defeat in both 2018 and 2022.
It would probably be best if the DLP did some soul searching, try to identify what is wrong, and fix the real problems.
Stamping the label Verla on the problem and pushing it into the closet until a later date is another losing game.It would be folly to see unapologetic foolish fumbling Freundel on the stage in the future.
Don’t blame Verla. The problems existed long before 2022.
My suggestion.. Instead of blaming Verla, kiss her ass and say “Thank you for getting this dead party to run the race”.
Verla has to carry blame, she must have been privy to internal polling.
BU by nature is too political
The simplest way for the BLP stronghold to be weakened would be if people were open to criticise Government more,
but partisanship posters like AC show that this strengthens weaker parties so Mums the word and loose lips sink ships
in political warfare
TheO scratching for extra votes
Mari scratching for excuses / blame to help wash down the second 30-0 that stuck in her craw
A slap in the face of government was a double (30-0) slap in the face of DEMs and a kick it DEMs butts
What a ting doahhhh
@david. U used to ask me. Why do I persist ?
@J2
“TheO scratching for extra votes”
😃😃
Correction to on statement
@david. U used to ask me. Why do I persist ?
Should read
@david. U used to ask me. Why do I scratch ?
Have a great day. Say hi to Lorenzo and Enuff for me😃
It is 2022, it is obvious the political directorate is partly responsible for current state of play. Should we move the discussion to what are the systemic issues? Instead we repeat the same blame game B vs D. It is taking us no rush where.
@ David
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Now you coming back to the blog with same crap. Go and listen to Austin on Facebook like if he knows what is happening in Barbados.“
Not getting into all the Duopoly BS but I must ask you : When you get here pushing your “pragmatic”knowledge of the global agenda , are we to assume that you know everything that is going on elsewhere?
Man be big enough and stop the nonsense. What the frig is anyone to really know this morning about the political landscape in Bim. The damn DLP got it’s ass kicked , by its twin the BLP, for the second consecutive time . Mia Mottley like Grantley Adams , Errol Barrow ,and to some extent Owen Arthur , now rules supreme , as our most successful politician to date.
Stop pretending you are some God dispensing anything other than ordinary knowledge on something that any citizen with three cents in common sense knows.
What really do you know anybody else on the planet does not know this morning?
Gimme a frigging break with your high and mighty nonsense.
Quite frankly you, @ ac and all of us are just doing the identical thing; Monday morning quarter backing.
So whether you live in St.Andrew, Brooklyn or Japan and you are a Bajan , you already know what’s going on in Bim.
Just like you sit here everyday watch CNN and Fox News and give judgement and comment about other countries.
Peace.
@William
You just posted crap again by taking a comment out of context. Could not resist supporting your man? Crap is crap. We have a few on BU who live in a social media bubble. Always coming to the blog with lies and half truths and when found out refuse to apologize. Have you ever observed the blogmaster pushing lies on the blog. And in the other odd case a mistake is made isn’t he the first to rh apologize? Often times you sit on the sideline with your figurative mouth rh shut.
Piss in the blogmaster’s pocket do.
Go and publish your memoirs and in it tell why the late Richie Haynes sputtered to deceive #NDP.
@Artax
“The moral of the story is, the better of two lousy candidates won the election.”
Correct!!
@Theo
“Don’t blame Verla. The problems existed long before 2022.
Truth! and unfortunately for us as a democracy they still exist.
” Can you imagine trying to steer that ship with the mess going on in the engine room.”
More truth.
@David
“Guy’s participation may have removed the old guard narrative that we have today”
We have to agree to disagree on this one. Guy has ZERO political experience and would have to rely, depend on and empower others in order to operate. He sure as hell wasn’t turning to any new guard, fresh face or not.
David
Some saying to get rid completely of all the old guards but if the dlp constituency branch call for (lashley) it may be hard to get rid of him without causing more friction. A new comer may also return the seat to the Bs. Whoever will run in that constituency should declare their hands yesterday and hit the ground . You can bet mia will be using up some resources to help shore up he vulnerable candidates for next election
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Sealy results were highly disappointing to me. But not a surprise that he lost – I alway predicted 30-0
I know it’s way to early but for now I can only see DEM with a chance of 3 ( just saying)
I think verla would have had a better chance I’f she had tried for sinckler old seat
@John2
The result of the 2022 general election supports the blogmaster’s view that a new path need to be taken and it was not going to occur with Verla at the helm. There was nothing to be lost by going the out of the box route. Guy’s involvement would have been disruptive which would have been a plus.
In the meantime, Blackett disclosed that in charting the way forward, the DLP has been giving thought to the 2018 offer by Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, which would have allowed the party to have two Opposition Senators despite not having any seats in the Lower House.
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That’s a big assumption, who says that offer is still on the table? but half a loaf is better than no bread and Blackett is expecting Mia to be magnanimous.
@Sargeant
The prime minister has no choice. Her government would take a big hit to popularity if it withdrew the offer.
House of Cards
What is the purpose of dissecting politic
BLP now has a mandate in Parliament to make radical changes without any opposition in the new Republic
DLP now have their own spin-off TV series with the Pilot Episode S1 E1 in filming
Barry Brown on the killer “Money Money” riddim
with The Aggrovators providing the muscle
versus
Horace Andy in a Bullwackies Murder Style
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqxoiFvAaHk
Guy or gal
IMO the results would have still be the same – and especially in this snap elections
By the way. Which constituency would you have place guy?
New course – yes. But most seem to be linking Guy to the old guard – that you wanted purged
It is not about solely the results, it is about progression the path to a sustainable rebuild.
Did senator crystal run for APP?
Both ‘opposition’ Senators expressed zero interest in running.
One instance u are tank about the past
Then next u talking about future/ progression
A good future is linked to decision making from past and current. Have the last word.
“Have the last word.”
root issue is
Bajans like the fights
and feel shortchanged
DavidJanuary 22, 2022 7:54 AM
The only one who has to learn is how to digest 61 love and possibly 90 to come.
Digest rh that!
Xxxx
Keep pushing that yardfowl narrative when the results speak of an electorate not giving a God dam about the democratic process
As The rght Hon Errol Barrow warned all and Sundry
One day Barbados would be awaken to a day which Barbadains do not recognize
That day seems to have finally arrived when a one state ruling govt is being put in place and a prime minister that with such a process in place and 40 percent of the electorate spoken
The govt can be an opposition unto itself
Digest that Fool
The blogmaster will accept yardfowl comment from you any day of the week. It mean nothing, it is empty just like the empty political rhetoric that emanated from the DLP platform.
#60love
The new guard when for verla
U can’t want a purge of old at at the same calling for the old guarded leader
You want guy to lead for the future ? The door is now full opened
No it isn’t. That opportunity went a begging.
“One day Barbados would be awaken to a day which Barbadains do not recognize
That day seems to have finally arrived when a one state ruling govt is being put in place and a prime minister that with such a process in place and 40 percent of the electorate spoken
The govt can be an opposition unto itself”
The losers should get the bulk of the blame
Don’t hate the Player hate the Game
Mia learned skills from gangsters
Mia / BLP could have lost the election
there was an exposure and opportunity
Back to the past ? U talked a bout progression
The presidency is opened.
Most of the constituencies seats are opened he can make his selection today
He has 3.5 – 5 years to put his stamp on the party
If guy had taken over the presidency the only think different to day would have been the additional excuse that the 4 or so months was enuff time for him taking over from verla. Etc etc
Wasn’t enuff
Before I give my concession speech, let me pen an open letter to Dawn-Marie Armstrong.
Dear Dawn-Marie,
I caught a part of your speech and loved what I heard. You were enthusiastic, bold, refreshing and exciting to hear. Your fresh approach made the old guy see wins where he thought none existed.
But you made a fatal mistake. You apologized.
You referred to Mia and Verla as two different type of dogs. When the attack came from the BLP, I suspect that your team advised you to apologize instead of appearing to be equally offended and arguing that two wrongs made it right.
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An apology is an admission of wrong doing. In this case, it made it seems as if the implications in the attack of your opponents were correct. You were calling Mia a bitch
I would like to see you again. Practice your speech, examine every word, rehearse it in front of an ally but a harsh critic and on delivery please stick to the script. Above all things, try your darndest never to apologize.
If you prepare, rehearse and be a harsh critic of yourself, there will be little margin for error. If you are wong admit that you are wrong one single time and move on.
Do not apologize to placate an enemy. The truth is they did not want the apology, they only wanted your admission of doing something wrong. It was a learning experience, move on.
They will come again. Please decide today ‘No apologies in 2025’.
Biggest fan
TheO.
DavidJanuary 22, 2022 10:22 AM
The blogmaster will accept yardfowl comment from you any day of the week. It mean nothing, it is empty just like the empty political rhetoric that emanated from the DLP platform.
#60love
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Is that your final answer
Then stick with it fool
Concession speech.
Dear Mia,
I am not a great fan of your administration, but my admiration of
your political acumen knows no bounds.
In our political jungle you are unequalled. What many sees as a snap decision, I saw as a highly calculated move designed to catspraddle your opponents. You succeeded.
Every move was well thought through including the denial of the vote to a segment of our population.
The fact that 3 in 4 eligible voters did not respond and that ~14% (my guesstimate ) did not hear your siren call makes your margin of victory even more impressive.
I hope that good Lord guide and protect you during the coming years. I wish you well. I wish Barbados well.
TheO.
Am i hearing right? Steve Blackette is now the acting President of the dems and talking about a posdible offer of two senate seats for the dems?This is the chief cook and bottle washer of the cusd out in waterford in 2018?The same Mr Blackette who claimed the dems had nothing to apologise for.In my view he is an arrogant sob and Ms Mottley should not entertain any conversation with him but perhsps with any other from that side.I believe with him as campaign manager was a major error along with Mr Stuart being allowed on the platform.Ms Depeiza i will say did her best but clearly was no match for Ms Mottley and did the right thing to resign.She should also retire from politics altogether in my view.Perhaps if they are interested either Dr Yearwood or Mr Walters can take over the leadership.To Ms Mottley all the best going forward and i am confident you will be able to keep the country going forward with progresive leaderdhip and the strength of your team.Once again congratulations on your deserved victory which has devasted the dems got them looking for all kind of excuses.I gone.
TheOGazertsJanuary 22, 2022 8:02 AM
Could it be that the ‘internal opposition’ to Verla was that she was seen as not having the ‘pedigree’. Let’s get that on the table?
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She isn’t to call Philip Greaves Uncle?
Maybe she had too much pedigree and too little abilitee.
Philip Greaves is not perceived as a heavy weight in the party or nationally.
@ Theo
“I hope that good Lord guide and protect you during the coming years. I wish you well. I wish Barbados well.”
An “ overseas” Bajan wishing Barbados well . Now who the hell you think you fooling. Nobody ain’t buying that crap ‘
For the past two weeks nobody ain’t listening to wunnuh overseas Bajans who don’t know Wuh going on and are Dems , and now you come here saying things you don’t mean.. You think Bajans stupid or wuh.
I know fuh sure @Lorenzo ain’t buying that BS. All of a sudden you is a Bajan now. @ Lorenzo should really stop people like you from evuh entering Buhbabus agen.
Congrats @Lorenzo. Don’t mind dem overseas frauds. All dem do is throw shade. David was rite!
I gone.
Skinner i already told you your puerile attempt at sacasm is becoming boring.It seems like the redwash has got you overseas dems real angry.and rambling looking for all kind of excuses.Too bad get over it.The simple point i made on here is that bajans who live here know of the hard work done by Ms Mottley amd her team. Therfore there was no damn way we would allow any overseas bajans to influence the outcome of any elections here.Simply put you all do not have to live with the consequences we do.I gone.
@Lorenzo
Again, congrats .
Peace.
lol…laughing stock don’t begin to describe….they are so proud of their vote buying election results….can’t contain themselves….but no one with any ethics or intelligence ON or OFF the island is even the least bit impressed…
@ Lorenzo January 22, 2022 1:16 PM
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Ms Mottley should not entertain any conversation with him but perhsps with any other from that side.I believe with him as campaign manager was a major error along with Mr Stuart being allowed on the platform.Ms Depeiza i will say did her best but clearly was no match for Ms Mottley and did the right thing to resign.She should also retire from politics altogether in my view.Perhaps if they are interested either Dr Yearwood or Mr Walters can take over the leadership.
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How about your man Sinckler returning to active politics and, like RIP van Winkle, awaken the DLP out of its deep comatose-like sleep?
Isn’t there clear evidence of a deep-seated mutual admiration between your queen bee and the ‘yellow’ king of blue-blooded liars?
After all if he can advise your “Supreme Leader” in her hour of need why can’t he render similar help to his own prodigal-son-like party?
A party which made into the great architect in almost consummating the destruction of the Bajan economy and turning your own Queen Bee MAM into a political Joan of Arc by saving it from realizing the country’s worst nightmare called currency devaluation.
All Bajans should care as the ruling party only won the support of 28% of the voting population. This gem of an island is in danger of becoming or has become a one party republican state. Let that sink in for a bit.
If that occurs who to blame?
@ Lorenzo January 22, 2022 1:16 PM
I remember only too well how Mr Blackett had a trolley full of alcohol at Massa Market at Christmas years ago.
I leave the conclusion to the audience. But if I had to preside over these blue scoundrels instead of Blackett, I would probably become an alcoholic out of sheer anger and sorrow.
DavidJanuary 22, 2022 3:36 PM
Philip Greaves is not perceived as a heavy weight in the party or nationally.
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Philip Greaves was the Deputy Prime Minister and Barrow’s second man!!
You got to be joking.
He even acted as the GG.
What are you smoking?
He was a second man and acted in a ceremonial role, exactly.
You better brush up on your history!!
https://gisbarbados.gov.bb/blog/we-bajans-sir-philip-greaves/
You have your opinion and so does the blogmaster.
@ John
Obviously @ David does not know anything about Sir.Philip Greaves. In the hey day of the DLP he was a major player , up there with Cammie Tudor. He was instrumental in removing Mascoll from the leadership.
You are absolutely correct.
Any student of political history in Barbados knows this simple fact.
Peace
What started the discussion William? Can you honestly state Phillip Greaves is perceived as a heavyweight nationally in local politics?
This man was to take over from Erskine Sandiford … as Barrow said, after me it is Sandiford then Greaves and then any number can play!!
Had not Sandiford called snap elections, he would have been PM.
The three stalwarts were Barrow, Sandiford and Greaves.
You really don’t remember this?
Evelyn Greaves, Bobby Morris etc etc were relegated to the background.
You like you don’t know your history.
The Dems sent a UWI lecturer to run in St.James South even though they made students pay fees at UWI and surprise the lecturer lost by 1,300 votes. Where is SJS in relation to UWI and what are the demographics of SJS?🤣🤣
@ Enuff
What about the thousands that went free and are now living the great upper class lifestyles and their children who enjoyed the same.
Your cock eyed view of everything is partisan and down right stupid.
BTW, removing the fees was good social policy by the BLP .
Owen Arthur went free and became PM. Go through the list of the Duopoly and see all those who benefitted from free university education before you post BS.
Clyde Mascoll went free . Hundreds of doctors went free. Thousands of civil servants and teachers went free. People and friends of yours probably went free.
You are an embarrassment to common sense to post such BS. Shameless partisan crap. Everybody did not have money to send their children up to England.
Like I said it was good social policy to remove the fees but thousands benefitted before the fees were put on and many will now get back that opportunity.
@ Enuff January 22, 2022 8:11 PM
The DLP cadet, moreover, is a conspiracy theorist, who is quite clearly waffling about blackmail and election rigging. What scandalous misconduct! The UWI should draw the consequences from this and encourage him to find other employment as a lawyer.
If anyone here is allowed to make assumptions about rigging, it’s me. As a court jester.
🤣🤣@ws
Take a deep breath and get off that corn cob bro
@David, I too was surprised by your comment “Philip Greaves is not perceived as a heavy weight in the party or nationally.”
I thought I was missing something and that u would clarify … because what @Skinner stated above had immediately come to mind when I read ur post this morn….
But as I often express to u: your too succinct remarks are often works in progress that need a tad more elaboration!
So after reflecting and knowing that ur historical knowledge ain’t THAT fluffy that u mean he has no persuasive heavy weight status NOW and that his legacy up north and across the nation may not be very impactful …
Tru Dat! It seems.
Some folks tell me that Depeiza suddenly became Greaves-Depeiza in St. Lucy and that got attention just like the cement dust … annoying steuupses!
BTW, see that comment that he had a hand in removing Mascol. … well, that starboy turn didn’t work out to well now did it!
So maybe there is GOOD REASON why Greaves and all-a dem maguffies are mere figurines these days. Just musing!
@Skinner, as an avowed socialist I get it that u would be forever an advocate of free UE education … but life evolves sir.
What happened for any of us who benefitted from that is exactly relevant but for different reasons I suggest to you.
As you allude to many of us took that education and are now higher and better off … there are significant segments of our society who will take family trips to Disney (pre covid of course) annually: and will do many other money spending discretionary highjinks with 3 or 4 fours cars at their homes and all dat.
It is absolutely not untenable that fees were asked for students at UWI … our society has MATURED….
Now sir that can be means tested easily enough to ensure those who truly need the helping hand get it.
Afterall comrade, last I checked they were several BILLIONAIRES out of communist Russia and China who own Premier League soccer teams, NBA franchises and mansions all bout de place … things never remain at a standstill do they!
@ David
That’s why I said in the “ heyday” of the DLP However, . he was as recently as the Mascoll leadership issue.
Now I am prepared to say , I might have missed something. To answer your question , I will have to say in the current scenario: No.
You have made your point.
You are correct my Brother .
@ DPD
Ideologies apart , you are correct.. However, I found @Enuff comment to be pure BS.
Peace.
I don’t know if Greaves was a heavyweight or not in Bajan politics but wasn’t he part of the delegation that accompanied Barrow to Britain to negotiate Barbados Independence in 1966?
That alone should garner him some respect.
WS
I seldom respond to you. Your 8:30PM post justifies this. It is clear you read whatever I post to oppose, but talking about being partisan. Get up good. #30-0
@Enuff,
You are a partisan immature manchild. Can you not see the dangers of a 30 nil whitewash. The country is heading towards a dictatorship. The pressure relief valve may result in unbridled anarchy by the masses if Mia missteps. These are dangerous times and should not be underestimated by all concerned parties.
@TLSN
Can you tell the blog why voters voted or behaved the way the did last Wednesday?
” we win, we win:
don’t mind the intimidation and vote buying we win, we win, that is all that matters…don’t mind that everyone everywhere know and are APPALLED that we sunk that low as a tiny, broke, starving, DEPENDENT, overly indebted island, we still win”
that’s the retrograde, backward mentality…they can never hide it….it’s the fuel that drives them….have you not seen how much confusion it causes on the blog and still….all we can do is watch as they sink further and further into infamy…
.just be prepared to JUMP REAL FAR BACK FROM ALL THE INCOMING SPLATTER…you want none of this on you.
TLSN…what they don’t know is, they can only go THAT FAR….and NO FURTHER…
so let them enjoy the CHARADE and delusions.
“Can you tell the blog why voters voted or behaved the way the did last Wednesday?”
Perhaps it was characters like yourself who intentionally decided to take a biased stance in Barbados domestic politics.
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You are describing the moral equivalent of two bald men fighting over a comb!
A good artical today from your pal’s love child Adrian Greene
@TLSN
You are free to increase the dosage of your meds.
The professed non partisans reek of yello shite and can see or smell it on themselves
But can see Ted one on other
WS comment took the cake
#comprehensiondearfellow
Enuff fo not worry with Mr Skinner the so called neutral dem.Take note everytime you mention one of his favoured dem he comes flying out of the blocks to defend.These dems are always hiding Look at them TLDN , Observing, Gazzerts, Baje and others who vlsim they are not members of amy party but from their postings you can immediately see which party they either favour or belong to.They got their ass kicked yet again and are struggling to come to terms with it afyer all the dirty yricks they tried including Ms Moe claiming all of a sudden that she afraid of Ms Mottley.It did not help them.Skinner implied that more or less the decision to implement fees was necessary try telling that to the many who had to drop out of university.Now they tslking about low turnout.Next they will be saying if pigs could fly.The bottom line is this the persons who voted voted for the bees 30 to 0 nothing you say will change that.Time for the dems to refocus going forward getting rid of all the persons who were around the cabinet between 2008 and 2018 in my view. I gone.
“What started the discussion William? Can you honestly state Phillip Greaves is perceived as a heavyweight nationally in local politics?”
there are no permanent heavyweights
Shabba Ranks was the Dancehall champion until Ninjaman destroyed him in Sting but that is old history and there is a new generation now
We had 30-0 for 3+ years. We had a reset and 30-0 in 2022.
What will be getting that is different from what we got in 3+ years?
TLSN
The man child man enuff to sense a beating though. I repeat, the Dems sent a UWI lecturer to contest SJS even after they made students pay UWI fees. If wunna can’t grasp the essence of my comment, who really is the immature and man child? Yuh fingers gine be sore from typing anti-BLP rhetoric on BU. 30-0 in yuh craw….again.
@Enuff, I originally thought you were being your facetious persona with the remarks that “the Dems sent a UWI lecturer to contest SJS even after they made students pay UWI fees” but you have repeated it suggesting you are aiming towards your other insightful persona!
So clarify for me: 1) Are you actually saying that (a) the constituents of SJS are heavily UWI students/parents/employees or so heavily invested in the economic and other well being of the campus that they reflected their anger at the badly implemented DLP decision onto Yearwood; and (b) if so the DLP did NOT do the granular work to understand those dynamics and thus he was unable to properly address those issues.— I listened to ZERO of his meetings so have no idea what was truly contested in that riding.
And 2) Are you saying that your party does NOT accept the practical merits of means testing UWI tuition costs and WILL NOT reimplement any of that even when the IMF stipulates as part of conditions upcoming???
Just trying to get past all the school boy ‘beak brek’ stuff you are engaging with @Skinner (I presume you are all from that adolescent era of then – mine too- foolishness) and dig into how serious you are.
Off topic here listening to in my view the dem Dr Kritina Hinds trying to interupt and sidetrack Mr Hartley Henry and Mr Peter Wickham while giving free reign to Dr Yearwood. Of course she is failing in that regard as Mr Henry is a seasoned campaigner who she cannot railroad.Poor moderating by Dr Hinds.I gone.
de pedantic dribbler
At least you have the brain cells to begin to properly analyse my comment.
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… Are you saying that your party does NOT accept the practical merits of means testing UWI tuition costs and WILL NOT reimplement any of that even when the IMF stipulates as part of conditions upcoming???
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Precisely my own thoughts on Enuff’s attack against the untarnished Dr. Ronnie Y, the obvious next leader of the DLP soon to be reborn.
Does Mr. Enuff see a rising Achilles in Ronnie and is taking aim at his heel exposed at Cave Hill?
But we are facing up to a similarly vulnerable man called Enuff fashioning himself after the petty-minded god called Narcissus who adores looking into his own mirror and likes to take the greatest pleasure in lying to himself about his own career achievements.
Dr. Yearwood’s career achievements are written in an open book of honesty and hard work; not through ass-licking to move up some imaginary corporate ladder.
Hasn’t the IMF issued a ‘writ’ to the GoB regarding the urgent need to impose USER FEES in order to reduce the high level of transfers to government funded institutions; whether partially or fully financed?
Wouldn’t there have to be a trade-off between free tuition at Cave Hill and the large number of Bajans with crippling NCD having free access to public health care?
Don’t University-imposed fees represent a classic case of User Fees underpinned by that well-known Benefit principle in the field of Public Finance?
Why should the IMF (as the banker of last resort) facilitate the funding of ‘free’ university education for Bajan young people when no such largesse exists in countries providing the said money to the GoB?
Don’t be surprised if the expansion of the student loan scheme is recommended to fund the re-imposition of tuition fees at the UWI as part of the inevitable restructuring and refinancing programme earmarked for the UWI and specifically the Cave Hill Campus.
Quo vadis the long promised University College of Barbados (UCB)!
I see the supposed anti-duopoly jumping up to say ‘praise’ to their messiah who is positively B->DDDLP
All ah DEM is one don’t mind how hard DEM try to hoodwink that DEM neutral
It is noticeable that you’ve focused on means testing, which my comment bears no relation, but completely ignore the other conclusions arrived at by de pedantic. What would I know about government’s plans? I can only speak about what they did–restore full payment of UWI tuition. The optics of a UWI lecturer patrolling SJS to sell the DLP’s suitability for government after introducing tuition fees at UWI is bad politics. Simples. Wunna can twist and engage in verbosity and character assasination ad infinitum. Nothing new, especially when $1B project stuck in yuh craw.
@ Enuff January 23, 2022 4:52 PM
Come on, girlie Enuff, have you been screwed so hard that you have even taken leave of what’s left of your manhood to fight back for all to see?
Agree that you know nothing about “government plans”; just like you knew even less about what was contained in the May 2018 Big red bag or even its January 2022 redesigned version.
But, at least, you ought to be aware of those serious decisions and far-reaching changes which have to made to the political economy of your now all-red dear beloved country which is indebted to lenders for more than just “$1 B” and is indeed punching above its Lilliputian weight when its comes to world ranking in the land of indebtedness and potential sovereign insolvency which not even the Chinese are interested because there are no raw materials to fuel their industrial economy.
I’ve noticed something on BU, which reminds me of what often occurs on the ‘call-in-programs.’
When moderators and callers express opinions that obviously favour the BLP, people deem them to be BIASED. But, words such as FAIR and BALANCED are used to describe the views of those moderators and callers that are sympathetic to the DLP.
Likewise, here on BU, while the usual suspects admonish John 2, Lorenzo and Enuff’s for their pro BLP comments and remind them of their bias toward that political party……
…….. they PURPOSELY IGNORE angela cox’s DLP biased comments, which are often questionable, untruthful or ‘bull shit,’ because she usually MISREPRESENTS the TRUTH, while RELYING on ‘hear say’ and unsubstantiated information to criticize the BEES and support the DEMS…….
Instead she is told ‘you go girl.’
The results of recent election has exposed certain self-proclaimed ‘neutral’ individuals and the side to which they REALLY lean, especially those who are still presenting several ‘if, but, could have, should have scenarios to ‘scratch around’ for votes and take it upon themselves to tell others they lean to one side.
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Artax I noticed that one of your favorite characteristics is to start mayhem
Recently.u said that BU is boring but for what ever reason you seem to have an addiction of wanting to control
Hence if u leave u relinquish that control
Artax spot on as one used to say.Enuff, john 2 tron and myself are known supporters of the Blp but you have so called neutrals on here like Observing, Skinner, Gazzerts, TLSN, Baje and a few others that claim they do not support either party but from tjeir posting you can clearly see who their support.That is their right but i do not know why they are hiding makes no sense.The call in programme moderators the same thing Dr kristina Hinds and mr Walter Blackman are clearly biased towards the dems in my view.The bottom line as i have is the dems have now lost twice 30 to 0.This tells me that bajans in general have zero confidence in the dems to lead Barbados anywhere anytime soon.Let that sink in.I yhink that is what has these dems so angry and looking for all kind of excuses and rambling about talking about turn out etc.The people has clearly spoken get over it.I gone.
Source: Nation
angela cox January 23, 2022 6:47 PM
Was what I mentioned the TRUTH?
There wasn’t any other person who caused more mayhem on BU, by constantly insulting the blogmaster and likening contributors who disagreed with him, to dogs, pigs, wild beasts and predators….
….. and had “an addiction of wanting to control” what issues should be discussed, the manner in which they should be discussed, the type of English language to use and how David should conduct himself and the blog, more so than your mate, ‘the brilliant journalist.’
Rather than condemn his behaviour, you CONDONED and ENDORSED it.
But, eventually he left and “relinquished that control.”
And, there is enough evidence in this forum’s archives that would clearly indicate similar criticisms could be likewise leveled at YOU and a few others present.
A few weeks ago, after accusing the blogmaster of distracting from ‘government’ because you could not CONTROL what issues he posted for discussion, you ran off from BU to some other forum, where you claimed you were bowling like Ambrose and knocking over BLP foot soldiers stumps.
And, you’ve returned.
I suggest you reinforce your glass house before throwing stones.
@Artax
Ac isn’t the sole guilty party but not to worry, it is water of a blogmaster’s back. Let stay the course by focusing on the issues. The blogmaster promises to be less tolerant in 2022.
Milluh
Once again I have catspraddled you with an uppercut🥊. Are you a masochist? The final blowout is yet to come though, tek it light. When cornered you resort to verbosity, but verbose ramblings do not equate to thoughtful, ask Freundel.
@ Lorenzo January 23, 2022 7:14 PM
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Artax spot on as one used to say.Enuff, john 2 tron and myself are known supporters of the Blp but you have so called neutrals on here like Observing, Skinner, Gazzerts, TLSN, Baje and a few others that claim they do not support either party but from tjeir posting you can clearly see who their support.
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Ok Mr Black or White, we all know how Ms “ac” stands but what about Miss Cuddear Bajan or even the Ma(d)dame Donna to make you really ‘totally’ partisan and genuinely non-sexist?
What, though, is quite clear is that you have totally misunderstood the ‘hidden’ role and, hence, have ‘misclassified’ our beloved court jester the supremely satirical ass-licking Tron all bedecked in a bloody-red costume.
It is Tron who both selects the all-red wardrobe and dons the costume on your naked Virgin Empress and, like Lady Godiva, will soon be performing the act outlined in the Sinckler-edited double-dealing play.
Tron is clearly not what you want him to be for he is, ironically, both a Brutus and a Cassius all in one while rivalling Orwell on his “Animal Farm”.
@ Miller
Don’t you get it ? The only balanced people on this blog are those who apparently have anti-DLP or Pro-BLP opinions. Once you don’t accept that, they try to drag you into their BS. They are a bunch of hypocrites. In the minds of these clowns, once you don’t declare you are a Bee or a Dee, they are pissed off. I have no interest in picking sides but I will say this: @Enuff, is one of the most intellectually dishonest persons on this blog. He is actually the very worst defender of the Barbados Labour Party.
I hope they all burn in the political hell.
@William
Why not make your points and move on? You are commenting in a public space and it means criticism is par. Is there anyone who attracts more criticism than the blogmaster?
Grow a pair man!
@ David
Is this an attempt at censor ? Let me know. Peace.
Steuspe
William
To me it sound like u are looking in the mirror and thinking you are speaking to/of the enuff look back at you .
Enuff has right to be as political bias as mariposa, tlsn, TheO or as political “netural” as you pretend to be.
Its her damn choice to spew he bias Bs as it is your to spew your neutral/ duopoly BS
Is the 30-o corncob bulling you that much ?
@ John2
Correct , Sir! And you too are entitled to your views.
Peace
@ Enuff January 24, 2022 8:12 AM
“Once again I have catspraddled you with an uppercut🥊. Are you a masochist? The final blowout is yet to come though, tek it light. When cornered you resort to verbosity, but verbose ramblings do not equate to thoughtful, ask Freundel.”
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So why would you want to bury a man who, unlike you, doesn’t rely on any crumbs from any political table?
It’s comforting to know that one’s financial navel string is buried in a more salubrious clime and not subject to the whims and fancies of an IMF-controlled puppet.
You lost all credibility when you made the cardinal mistake of lying, consistently, about yourself to yourself.
Why not let us have that “final blowout” in the foyer of the Hyatt Hotel which has been under construction since May 2020 and due for its official opening in 2022?
It can be billed as the Big Showdown between the King of Verbosity and “Enuff” wearing the crown of Queen Liar.
We are surprised at your incurable addiction to read and swallow the very ‘same’ verbosity which seems to be the elixir for your intellectual improvement.
Please don’t get too constipated and end up with a massively swollen head.
You might not be able to swallow what’s on the table in the coming months.
@ Miller January 24, 2022 8:32 AM
My Nibelung loyalty to the Supreme Leader is unbreakable.
Whatever that means …