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The report coming out of St. Vincent that a citizen felt emboldened to pelt an object at Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves and in the process endanger his life and destabilize the country is reprehensible. We may have contrary political views but it does not mean we should disregard the fact Gonsalves’s Unity Labour Party (ULP) is a democratically elected government. What example are we setting for our children? Increasingly in the Caribbean we are witnessing behaviours associated with TV scenes depicting public disturbances from over in away. Another example of our small open societies in the Caribbean susceptible to external influences. The English speaking Caribbean has earned a reputation through the years as an area of peace (comparatively speaking) with Grenada the outlier. What happened in St. Vincent this week is an ominous sign for the region given we are battling similar issues. The lyrics of the great calypso Caribbean Man penned in 1979 should serve as a reminder.

One race (de Caribbean man)
From de same place (de Caribbean man)
Dat make de same trip (de Caribbean man)
On de same ship (de Caribbean man)
So we must push one common intention
Is for a better life in de region
For we woman, and we children
Dat must be de ambition of de Caribbean man
De Caribbean man, de Caribbean man

Songwriter: Sawandi Cassell

The world is struggling to protect citizens during the pandemic. It is reported over 4 million people have died since the outbreak of Covid 19. The virus has had the effect of stalling the global economy and in the process crippled Small Island Developing States (SIDs) like St. Vincent, Barbados and others. Before the pandemic our economic and social landscape was under stress. As developed and undeveloped countries respond to outbreak after outbreak of Covid 19, public health policy to fight the virus has not earned the trust of some members of the public. The issue has escalated to a point where the rights of individuals are challenging government’s obligation to enforce an effective national health policy. Members of the medical fraternity are divided, governments have been administering different approaches, individuals are conflicted on the best options to take to fight Covid 19. Unfortunately the matter has been politicised and the voice of the scientists have been trivialized. There will always be those who are anti this and anti that- this has been the case from time immemorial.

To ask for calm at a time various interest groups (including political parties) prefer to engage in rambunctious behaviour will be a struggle. One suspects it will get worse before it gets better. Many of our islands support service economies and will be directly impacted based on our ability to curb Covid 19 infections and in the process prevent failed state status. How long can our governments continue to pay the salaries of bloated public service employees. How long will private sector companies draw down on reserves and declining rate of returns on equity? Is the proverbial crap is about to hit the fan?

The Barbados government is currently working on a legal document to consider mandatory vaccinations that was promised to key stakeholders yesterday. Yesterday CNN in the USA fired 3 unvaccinated employees who entered the workplace violating policy. Buckle up!

The blogmaster thought the following read a useful exercise, a break from the vitriol.

Mandatory vaccination, including for COVID-19, can be ethically justified if the threat to public health is grave, the confidence in safety and effectiveness is high, the expected utility of mandatory vaccination is greater than the alternatives, and the penalties or costs for non-compliance are proportionate. I describe an algorithm for justified mandatory vaccination. Penalties or costs could include withholding of benefits, imposition of fines, provision of community service or loss of freedoms. I argue that under conditions of risk or perceived risk of a novel vaccination, a system of payment for risk in vaccination may be superior. I defend a payment model against various objections, including that it constitutes coercion and undermines solidarity. I argue that payment can be in cash or in kind, and opportunity for altruistic vaccinations can be preserved by offering people who have been vaccinated the opportunity to donate any cash payment back to the health service.

Read full text: Good reasons to vaccinate: mandatory or payment for risk?

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477 responses to “Gonsalves Struck in the Head, Who Next?”


  1. But why would Ralph put himself in harms way knowing that the masses were upset with govt handling of the Covid vaccine policy for weeks
    In any event this holding on the woman in custody without her having a right to an attorney after many hours of interrogation give cause to the woman constitutional rights being violated
    Which can give cause to another uprising


  2. David

    No need to be soothsayers. We discuss the wanderings of political personages all the time and a range of views are proffered. Why this exception?
    This is a blog, there’s generally no requirement to meet that bar of evidence.


  3. Violence is not only physical. Politicians need to stop condemning and start reflecting!

    We had a march yesterday. It was peaceful.

    July 26th, 1937 was not. And yet it has been upgraded from a riot to an uprising!


  4. @Pacha

    Our views are well known on the blog. No prime minister should occupy office for his length of time. It lends itself to inappropriate activities and behaviours.


  5. David
    Yes. And we appreciate that view. And will now cease to haggle with you on this small point if you could inform us of any significant civilization or people solving major problems without violence of any kind.


  6. David two faces are showing
    Now that the people have used the leverage of political power to wrestle for truth justice and a right for choice from RH
    David now shakes his finger in the faces of the people as have given the moral.authority to do so


  7. @Pacha

    The incident in St. Vincent was a protest that got ugly about the imposition of a mandatory vaccination rule. It was not about revolutionary change. However the substance of your position is supported by events of the past. Real change by the establishment requires bloody sacrifice from the proletariat.


  8. David
    Agreed. Non violence from the dawn of mankind has never been achieved. It has become merely aspirational. And that is a good thing.

    However, we have to face the facts of our existence. If we choose to pretend something which is merely aspirational is indeed a truism then we’re truly lost.

    Also we need to avoid this trap by others who have always solved their problems by violence giving us a religion of non violence to which they themselves have never had any allegiance.

    You may have the last word.


  9. DavidAugust 8, 2021 4:34 PM

    @Pacha

    The incident in St. Vincent was a protest that got ugly about the imposition of a mandatory vaccination rule. It was not about revolutionary change. However the substance of your position is supported by events of the past. Real change by the establishment requires bloody sacrifice from the proletariat

    Xxxx
    Obviously u have not fully understand what cause the uprising
    U seem stuck in a,media message about vaccination
    The people in street voices spoke of other issues which affected their economic progress by way of govt policies


  10. We forgot.
    Seti 1, the Kemetic Pharoah was the first to institutionalize non violence at a “national” level.

    He disbanded his armies and for a short while there was limited success. We don’t need Gandhi.

    However, our beloved Kemet was no less violent than any other empire overall.


  11. @Pacha

    It gives lie to being civilized does it not?

    C’est la vie!

  12. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    Something for John Jacob Jingleheimer et. al. to digest. I’m sorry it wasn’t the Grand High CHUMP that was the GOP official afflicted.


  13. Photos are coming in that Browne in Antiqua is tear gassed peaceful protestors…their nasty conspiracy got uncovered so they are taking it out on the people, but the whole world is hearing about it..


  14. Long haul covid is ugly business, that is why the vaccine has to be just right, not perfect but just right to avoid long haul situations….and hospitalization.


  15. Check out the FRAUD. Day runs until night catches up. All they want to do is sport big bloated bellies and inflated chestd at Black /African people, their children and grandchildren’s expense.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CSUp7m2FjbB/?utm_medium=share_sheet


  16. The closet tjackass to a despot is aGaston Browne it’s amazing how power goes to their head so easily.. Sadly, some police officers allow themselves to be proxies of these despots the world over then wonder why respect is lost. It should always be conversation over confrontation like what happened with organizers and the police yesterday according to Winston Clarke.
    Our police officers in Barbados have far greater emotional and social intelligence in getting the job done as it’s about service to the public while maintaining law and order.


  17. Pacha…ya gotta ask gunzales how the concussion going,….he is all over the place laughing at the concussion..


  18. I wouldn’t want to be struck in the head, and Gonsalves should not have been struck in the head. None of us should be throwing stones or whatever because in truth we don’t know where it will land, and head injuries can be deadly serious. And in spite of all the talk on here, not a fella is going to keep the woman’s company while she is on remand, not a fella is going to help her [ay her legal bills, if she has small children not a BU fella is going to mind her children for her while she is in custody, and if she is convicted not a fella will serve a day with her.


  19. @angela cox August 7, 2021 5:46 AM “allowing the virus into their countries.”

    Since the virus is now present in 220 countries exactly what should Barbados have done that these 220 countries have not been able to do?

    I mean we Bajans are an intelligent people, but you expect us to be smarter than the whole world?

    The Olympics of human intelligence?

    Lol!


  20. @ WURA-War-on-U,
    Yeah. Unpleasant business in Antigua. Which Caribbean island will be next? Is there any truth that some police were threatening or menacing some of the protesters yesterday?

    https://antiguaobserver.com/residents-protest-riot-police-try-to-disperse-crowd/


  21. @angela cox August 7, 2021 6:35 AM “Govt needs to find a WAY to protect those people who for what ever reason refuse to be vaccinated or else face high levels of poverty and unemployment and anarchy.”

    Bright girl, don’t just gi we no lotta long talk.

    You suggest a way.


  22. @Tron August 7, 2021 7:21 AM “Here, too, the democratically illegitimate opposition is agitating against vaccination…It is also clear that the opposition is condoning hundreds of Corona deaths to bring down our government. Our government must be on guard. All loyal citizens are called upon to oppose the machinations of the opposition. Time to throw the leaders of the opposition in jail for breaching the Corona emergency laws!”

    My response: Tron, you trouble maker you.

    The leader of the opposition in Barbados, a very sensible lady, has said clearly that she has been fully vaccinated against Covid19. DLP loyalists, of which I am not one, should follow their very sensible leader.


  23. Bajans are bad ass revolutionaries dangerous radicals fighting down the system… but on the positive they are are all mouth talk full of lip service with no action and it is just fantasies / words on the net

    Hell is Round the Corner


  24. Here we go again more protest
    Govts brought this all.upon themselves
    Where there is no vision

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/217738533577768/permalink/225162722835349/


  25. What is taking the AG so long to bring a legal.opinion on mandatory vaccine to the people
    This time around the business class interest has been given a black eye by the public 2000 strong yesterday
    Hope your opinion takes that 2000 strong March into consideration


  26. Several corrupt small island governments and OTHERS colluded and conspired against the Black/African descended populations and it backfired….our ANCIENT AFRICAN ANCESTORS ARE WALKING THE EARTH….they are on the job..

    we know who they are and now so does everyone else..


  27. @Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV August 7, 2021 8:28 AM “you say that you are Barbados scholar.”

    To say that John and GP are Barbados scholars is like saying that I am a virgin.

    Sure I WAS a virgin, many, many, many, many decades ago.

    I am NOT a virgin.
    John is NOT a Barbados scholar
    GP is NOT a Barbados Exhibitioner.

    So correctly John WAS a Barbados scholar. He is no longer a Barbados scholar.

    GP WAS a Barbados Exhibitioner. He is no longer a Barbados Exhibitioner.

    Understood???


  28. Cuddear…no one struck gonzales in his head, he faked it, it was a plot that went awry…he has always been a fraud, accused rapist and liar…..how do you expect him to change those dirty spots at 75 years old..


  29. angela coxAugust 8, 2021 8:53 PM

    What is taking the AG so long to bring a legal.opinion on mandatory vaccine to the people
    This time around the business class interest has been given a black eye by the public 2000 strong yesterday
    Hope your opinion takes that 2000 strong March into consideration

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    It is impossible to give a legal opinion supporting mandatory vaccination when there is no vaccine in existence that can be legally defined.

    That is common sense.

    The first thing the AG would have to do is come up with a new legal definition of the term vaccine.


  30. There are plenty of definitions of the term vaccine but most require the granting of immunity.

    Remember, this so called vaccine was for a period called “the jab”.

    The AG could come up with a legal opinion in support of mandatory jabs but I suspect all hell would brek loose.


  31. The AG could define a vaccine as a preparation certified by the Chief Medical Officer but a definition requiring the preparation to confer immunity I think is beyond his abilities.

    But who knows.


  32. … especiall since the said CMO has told the general public that there were 25 persons in the St. Lucy facility who were fully vaccinated, 37 who weren’t and the single person in ICU was vaccinated.


  33. It’s obvious you don’t know the difference between someone ASKED a QUESTION or MADE a DEFINITIVE STATEMENT.

    Because, if you did, you wouldn’t have responded to my question with NONSENSE about, “Well not unlike u to have some kind of ability to penetrate other people mind and super implant whatever motive fits your political agenda.”

    I’m sure everyone would agree there isn’t any other contributor to this forum that is more politically motivated than you.

    And, to give an example of your ‘politically motivated agenda.’ I recall when the then Opposition and special interest groups had reasons for protesting against the former Freundel Stuart led DLP administration, you came on BU to harshly criticize them, while ‘saying’ they were ‘unpatriotic, and pulling down the country.’

    But, you’re now in total agreement with any form of protest against this Mia Mottley, BLP administration. So, in your view, protestors have been elevated from being previously ‘unpatriotic’ to a current status of ‘heroes,’ simply because it “fits your political agenda.”

    I also recall you bitterly criticizing ‘PUDRYR’ for his anti DLP and ‘not one effing seat’ posters, while desperately trying to defend issues he raised therein.


  34. Was just a matter of time before the true nature of the Bajan mentality came to the fore.

    Instead of seeing this case as a point of resistance, questions are being asked about who would mind Annamay’s children, or help her serve time, etc.

    This is the very mind which created a King Dyal. The cowardice mind which until a few decades ago had airbrushed Bussa out of existence.

    A people which would see nothing extraordinary in living off somebody else’s social transformative process but themselves play it so safe that death must only come at age 130 rotting in their beds with gangrene limbs. All of this backwardness when BLM activists in their thousands have recently been crowding the dungeons of prisons across the globe.

    Bajans will always be a “kept” people, afraid of their shadows as they wait to feed off the sacrifices of others. This is a collective national mentality only worthy of the modern day slaves, which they are.


  35. “A people which would see nothing extraordinary in living off somebody else’s social transformative process but themselves play it so safe that death must only come at age 130 rotting in their beds with gangrene limbs. All of this backwardness when BLM activists in their thousands have recently been crowding the dungeons of prisons across the globe.”

    Wow. Much more forceful than “We are men of words and not men of action.”


  36. https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/07/when-will-covid-19-vaccines-be-fully-approved-and-does-it-matter-if-they-are

    I think at this stage the best the AG do is to use the terminology that the “vaccine” is “approved for emergency use” and then the issue would be “what is an emergency”?

    Maybe the powers that be know more than they are saying but I don’t feel like they have communicated that an emergency exists with COVID.

    The appearance of numerous persons at the march would seem to indicate that another emergency could exist.

    To take the responsibility to force “vaccinations” on individual citizens means the assumption of a serious liability based on what could become a dysfunctional “vaccine”

    I don’t envy the decision makers their lot but would just offer a few of words.

    Trust in God.

  37. Critical Analyzer Avatar
    Critical Analyzer

    Chances are the legal opinion they received based on current laws is not what they want to hear. I am no lawyer nor have I ever studied law but here is my opinion on what the legal opinion would be were I to write one being the non-lawyer I am.

    CA’s Mandatory Vaccination Opinion(WARNING: I NEVER STUDIED LAW NOR PLAYED ONE ON TV)

    1) Employers can ask for proof of vaccination as a requirement when hiring new employees or as conditions in new or renegotiated contracts for engaging services.

    2) Employers are advised against adding any vaccine requirements to any existing employee’s terms of employment where none existed before or the COVID vaccine does not match the type of vaccines required under existing terms. Doing such has the potential to expose the employer to medical liability in the case of any severe adverse events or death experienced by said employee.

    3) Any COVID testing requirements implemented for employee’s entry to the work premises MUST NOT discriminate against vaccinated or unvaccinated employees and MUST be applied equally to all.

    4) Employers and owners of buildings are prohibited from asking for proof of vaccination from any persons be they customer, employee or otherwise as a requirement for entry into said building or compound.


  38. Another hot potato possibly with the republic talk and the economic woes of Barbados.

    Old but maybe very topical.

    https://vifreepress.com/2020/09/chinas-490-million-investment-in-barbados-behind-snap-decision-to-remove-the-queen-tory-mp/


  39. Another school of thought.


  40. Cuhdear BajanAugust 8, 2021 8:53 PM

    @Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV August 7, 2021 8:28 AM “you say that you are Barbados scholar.”

    To say that John and GP are Barbados scholars is like saying that I am a virgin.

    Sure I WAS a virgin, many, many, many, many decades ago.

    I am NOT a virgin.
    John is NOT a Barbados scholar
    GP is NOT a Barbados Exhibitioner.

    So correctly John WAS a Barbados scholar. He is no longer a Barbados scholar.

    GP WAS a Barbados Exhibitioner. He is no longer a Barbados Exhibitioner.

    Understood???

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Like wine, GP and I just get better with age.


  41. @John August 8, 2021 11:05 PM “Like wine, GP and I just get better with age.”

    Ga long ye demented ones. If you need to lie to yourself to feel comfortable.


  42. @Pachamama August 8, 2021 9:48 PM “Was just a matter of time before the true nature of the Bajan mentality came to the fore.”

    My response: I am, unapologetically a Bajan.

    @Pachamama August 8, 2021 9:48 PM “Instead of seeing this case as a point of resistance, questions are being asked about who would mind Annamay’s children, or help her serve time etc.”

    My response: Are YOU willing to mind Annamay’s children or grandchildren or gret grandchildren? Or are you just full of talk?

    @Pachamama August 8, 2021 9:48 PM “but themselves play it so safe.”

    And NOBODY, NOBODY is playing it safer than old Pacha.

    Why don’t you be a real human being for once and start a fundraiser for Annamay’s legal defence, and raise some extra money for her family?

    Or are you only a hero while sitting safely in your house over in away?

    F off do.

    And while ya at it BE OFF too.


  43. You walked into that one.

    Completely unnecessary.

    Why not just think before you attack people?


  44. “Bajans will always be a “kept” people, afraid of their shadows as they wait to feed off the sacrifices of others. This is a collective national mentality only worthy of the modern day slaves, which they are.

    And that is one of the main reasons that the TRAITORS in the parliaments will NOT B E ALLOWED to use Afrika as an ATM to keep the SLAVES in the Caribbean happy and comfortable so that minority criminals can benefit from our inheritance on the continent and the evil politicians as tiefing millionaires……this is the defining moment where they learn i will go to the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH…to make sure that the corrupt in the parliaments has EVERY DOOR SLAMMED IN THEIR FACES…..the thieves and let the whole world know what wicked demons they are..

    let the Slaves THINK for once in their Slave lives…they will not be “kept” Slaves off our backs…

    so the black trash for ministers/politicians can collude, conspire, plot and plan AGAINST Black/Africans in the region as much as they want and for JUST AS LONG……but they will have to sell their ASSES to maintain those Slave societies, or STAY IN PERPETURAL IMF DEBT……..we GOT THEIR NUMBER…

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