Four Seasons Project – Story of Failure

The most recent Auditor General Report – see 2020 Auditor General Report – Time to Fire Senior Public Servants – continues to generate the usual concerns engaged annually by the general public. Although it must be said there is more impatience being exercised this time around if the blogmaster has tested the temperature of debate correctly. Is it because of the unprecedented mandate given to the Mottley led government in 2018? The promises made during the last general election platform certified by hints of documents secreted in the Red Bag that officials known to have engaged in criminal acts and flouting of government’s financial rules will be held accountable? members of the public rightly (or wrongly) have set high expectation that Mottley will turn the table and tackle malfeasance in the public sector once and for all. Knowing that it takes two hands to clap one can reasonably expect private sector players will be in the frame as well were she to lead Project Corruption Clean Up.

Three years later and it is business as usual on the rock with Minister in the ministry of finance Ryan Straughn still promising that the government is probing malfeasance highlighted by the Auditor General’s recent report.

Two issues caught the attention of the blogmaster yesterday (7 Jun 2021). Minister Straughn admitted the Clearwater Bay Limited (Four Seasons) file has not been digitized and therefore he would have to review said file to be able to respond to a question about the total of the project-to-date lending by government. The other is the alleged $124 million reportedly written off by government.

BU commenter Artax offered the following comment on another blog to explain the $124 million.


Therefore, the people of Barbados have a right to know where the money has gone? And why was this investment valued at $124 million written off.

Verla De Peiza – Leader of the Democratic Labour Party

It’s either Verla De Peiza has conveniently lost her memory or opposing just for the sake of opposing.

Paradise Beach Ltd. secured an 18 month, US$60M (BD$120,000,000) loan from ANSA Merchant Bank, at an interest rate of 6.75%, for the purpose of ‘restarting’ construction of Four Seasons Resort.

The former DLP administration agreed to guarantee the loan in return for a 20% stake in the project.

Paradise Beach Ltd. defaulted on the loan and ‘government,’ as guarantor, had to repay the outstanding amount and interest in the amount of $124,329,766.

Verla was a GOVERNMENT SENATOR when the ARRANGEMENTS were made between the former DLP administration, Paradise Beach Ltd. and ANSA Merchant Bank.

Why is Verla De Peiza saying “the people of Barbados have a right to know where the money has gone,” when, according to Chapter 2, pages 25-26 of the 2016 Auditor General’s report:

This amount ($124,329,766) was subsequently brought to book in the accounts of the Treasury as an account receivable. There has been no movement on this receivable account for the past four (4) years.” [2.49]

There is NO information available on whether there might be a need to write down this receivable or WHEN or HOW THIS AMOUNT will be REPAID. [2.49]

2020 Auditor General Report

Did the former administration use tax payers’ money to guarantee a loan for Paradise Beach Ltd., without negotiating the necessary arrangements to recover the funds, if the company reneged on its commitment to repay?

From whom or what company would the former or current administration recover the outstanding debt, especially if Paradise Beach Ltd. is defunct?

How can one deem $124,329,766 to be ‘missing,’ when the amount has remained on the ‘books’ and uncollected for ‘several years’………. and ‘yuh doan know who to collect it from?’

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  • THE 2 X 3 ISLAND IS GETTING CLOSER TO HAITI THAN MOST IMAGINED.

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  • @ Enuff June 9, 2021 6:14 PM

    How the man H A got it wrong with the 4 Seasons project?

    Where are those British investors that were ‘lining up’ to recapitalize and complete the project promoted as the millionaires’ dream of a tropical paradise?

    The man was “Spot On” when he said that things “will end in tears”.

    Isn’t Barbados in the hands of the IMF as its ‘only’ banker of last resort and will be there for the foreseeable future like a true basket case of a burgeoning banana republic?

    Why can’t the red administration who promised transparency and accountability make available the White Oaks ‘final’ agreement and performance report for public examination by the people who are the ultimate employer of the political pawnbrokers?

    Has it even been made a document of the House for turncoat Bishop to preach on?

    BTW, the LSE is an internationally-recognized institution of higher education.

    Clearly more recognized than any you attended.

    Didn’t the Father of Independence (your MAM’s Uncle Daddy) attend the same ‘illustrious’ institution which even Lee Kuan Yew graced with his short attendance?

    Didn’t your ‘same’ MAM attend the University of London to which the LSE is closely tied?

    So which do you think has the greater academic standing in the world of social sciences?

    The same LSE or the ‘Gresham’ College for scammers and con artists?

    Since you seem to know every thing about the goings-on with your red administration- managing not by objectives but by the appointment of committees- why don’t you tell us about the MIA senator who has gone AWOL since the last Cabinet reshuffle?

    PS: Just a taste of the miller’s verbosity at its best brewed especially for your engaging consumption.

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  • They over played the same old nasty game of trotting out their racist minority thieves to help them divide the people ONE TOO MANY TIMES, after helping rob them…….this one had a backlash attached that they were not expecting, now they know the only people impressed by them are the dishonest like themselves and their sleazy little Slaves…

    after all the missing billions and denying the population what is rightfully theirs, they STILL GOTTA BEG those they disenfranchised …..FOR VOTES IN 2023….just like DLP had to return to face the electorate in 2018…..

    my, how time flies…

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  • “Why can’t the red administration who promised transparency and accountability make available the White Oaks ‘final’ agreement and performance report for public examination by the people who are the ultimate employer of the political pawnbrokers?”

    you misunderstand evidence

    evidence is something that is bad and has to be destroyed or you will end up in jail

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  • @ Donna,

    I would never underestimate the power of the international media

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c2gzed9ee39t/gupta-family

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  • @ David

    The following excerpt was taken from Chapter 2, page 27 of the 2014 Auditor General’s report:

    “A loan receivable in the amount of $2,000,000.00 was made to Southern Golf on September 25, 2009. No loan agreement was entered into by the parties and no repayments or interest were received from Southern Golf to date. Therefore, there is an increased risk of the funds not being recovered.This matter has been reported on for a number of years but no action has been taken to regularise the situation.” [2.42]

    I’ll have to read subsequent reports to verify whether or not the AudG ‘changed his mind’ to say the $2M was a grant.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Artax
    Lol…if you write off a loan, it becomes a grant?

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  • The Suriname government said on Tuesday, it has filed a request with the Public Prosecution Service to conduct a judicial investigation into possible criminal offenses at the State Health Insurance Fund (SZF) during the administration of the Desi Bouterse government.

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/09/government-calls-investigation-past-administration/

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  • That fraud they elected in Suriname and now regret it, is covering up all the crimes him and his family are committing in the country by trying to distract the people about the former government, same nasty tricks they all play, the Surinamese people will deal with him, they are nothing like the people on the island who would sit and take it.

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  • NorthernObserver June 9, 2021 10:41 PM

    Perhaps that’s what these guys want or hoping for us to believe.

    Speaking of ‘guys,’ you noticed Guy has also ‘jumped into the fray’ “to highlight a few anomalies raised in the Aud G’s report,” in his Nation newspaper’s ‘weekly guest column.’

    According to the ‘Padre,’ “2.15 “There was a total of $209.4 million representing Other Equity Investments shown in the notes to the financial statements [without explanatory notes]…of the type of investments undertaken and any risks associated.” No clue as to where this money went.”

    Note what he ‘said,’ “WITHOUT explanatory notes” and “No clue as to where this money went.”

    What was actually written at 2.15 in the report:

    “There was a total of $209.4 million representing Other Equity Investments shown in the notes to the financial statements. This note should be MORE explanatory to allow readers and users of the financial statements to be more aware of the type of investments undertaken and any risks associated with their acquisition by Government.”

    The goodly Reverend placed political expediency above moral and practical argument, by purposely misrepresenting what was actually mentioned in the report.

    Perhaps ‘bearing false witness’ carries a much less harsh penalty for ‘men of the cloth’ than what’s reserved for lesser mortals……. or they’re given a special ‘free pass,’…………….. especially when they become politicians.

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  • “They are wanted in connection with a procurement fraud scheme amounting to $1.8m (£1.25m) involving the diversion of money earmarked for rural development.”

    that is the usual modus, don’t know why black politicians are so corrupt, greedy and DUMB…money that should be going to the PEOPLE…they divert it to minority criminals for some scam that comes along EVERY MONTH and then the people suffer because of thieves and their protracted scams that can last for decades..

    ….that’s what has BROUGHT Barbados to its KNEES…state thefts and corruption..

    that clown Zuma deserves everything he gets…the thieves always got their ear.

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  • Stuart predicts big water management changes
    By Marlon Madden
    A young economist is predicting that the Barbados Water Authority (BWA) could soon be placed in the hands of a private entity as Government continues to seek ways to cut transfers and subsidies in an effort to continue to meet its obligations under the International Monetary Fund-backed (IMF) austerity programme.
    Moreover, Kemar Stuart, Director of Business Development, Finance and Investment at Stuart and Perkins Caribbean, is warning that should the BWA become a private sector entity, the price of water would increase.
    He was responding to a recent article in another section of the press, which reported that Government had established a 20-member National Advisory Committee on Water to advise the administration on matters related to the precious commodity.
    “Since Government can’t tax, nor can they continue to borrow in this depressed environment and to live up to its initial agreement with the IMF to cut money transfers to state-owned entities (SOEs), the government is finding it difficult to continue to subsidize water rates.
    “Therefore the only option according to actions previously taken, is to cut spending to the water authority and forge private outsourcing of the entity’s operations.
    The formation and characteristics of the committee is affirming that the BWA is headed in the direction of privatization,” said Stuart.
    “This is the first step in a bid to privatize the Barbados Water Authority where government will outsource the operations of the state-owned water service to the respective stakeholders in the business community. On its committee are persons who have a history of benefiting from lucrative government contracts in terms of sale of government assets,” he added.
    Insisting that transfers to SOEs are to be cut as per the Barbados Economic Recovery and Transformation (BERT) programme, Stuart said Government’s financial strategy was “to remove” as many SOEs from the books of government and have them under private control.
    “This can be referenced in its agreement with the IMF and the survey that the government circulated to determine which SOEs should or should not be privatized which occurred within a couple months of coming to office,” he said.
    While not referencing the Garbage and Sewage Contribution (GSC) levy that was introduced in August 2018, Stuart said he believed there will be an increase in the cost of water “via a levy” if the BWA is privatized.
    Under the GSC, households pay an equivalent of $1.50 per day, of which $1.25 goes to the Sanitation Services Authority and the remainder to the BWA.
    Meanwhile, commercial entities pay 50 per cent of their water bills, and this is split evenly between the SSA and the BWA.
    Stuart said: “The presence of Dr Clyde Mascoll who is government’s special advisor on public financial issues, Ian Carrington, Director of Finance and Economic Affairs, two union bosses, along with major business players suggests a major overhaul and correction is planned for the water authority in terms of restructuring its business and management model.
    “Traditional methods of transfer of water services to private hands will see the establishment of a private water company or statutory board with the signature and transfer of management rights over to these new institutions. This will see the rise in the cost of water to recover the cost of the investment that will be spent to carry out works on the project and a permanent increase to recover the loss of financial input and subsidy from the government,” Stuart argued.
    According to the recent newspaper report, the committee is a private/public committee that “revolves around looking at the augmentation programme that the BWA is putting in place to ensure that we have the best practices and that we have a speedy resolution to the numerous water issues that we have across the country”.
    However, Stuart said it was simply the financial state of the water utility company that has been hampering its ability to fully deliver due to “mismanagement of its resources” and other structural problems such as cost/price imbalances.
    He said that as far back as 2007 the IMF recommended that to achieve savings, adjustment of prices of utilities and public services to reduce the budgetary impact of across-the-board subsidies and costly price imbalances were necessary.
    “Automatic adjustments upward in regulated prices for subsidized goods and services such as water will be a point of contention for the public under any privatization plan,” warned Stuart, as he recalled a 75 per cent rise in bus fare to $3.50 in April 2019.
    (marlonmadden@barbadostoday.bb)

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  • So many Committees
    Where is govt finding money to pay all these Committes
    I remember when OSA blasted Mia for her asking him to be on a Committe and referred to her committee planning as gimmicks

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  • The people where warned that the present govt would privatize any and every govt entity that is not nailed down
    Govt recently went into what is called a management agreement with Chukka and the first order at hand was to dismiss the workers
    Present govt had given the Union representing the workers that all workers would have been able to retain their jobs well all now knows that is not the truth

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  • I suggested young Kemar Stuart should do a bit of research before allowing himself to be misled in this political game of the BLP versus DLP on the issue of privatization.

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  • Wasn’t tiefing, covetous bizzy “gimme” trying for YEARS to get his corrupt hands on the BWA…blatantly begging in the media….”gimme 60 MILLION DOLLARS (that same sum again) and the BWA”…….under the Foolish Fruendel government, ah guess the bribe amount was not right back then, it must be now..

    we wait to see which crook comes away owning the taxpayer funded entity…while taxpayers will still be funding it.

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  • @Artax

    You do not want to be specific? Use it as a teaching opportunity for the young man?

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  • “and the Bar Association’s serious concerns raised about the planned Anti-Corruption and Anti-Terrorism Agency (ACATA) Bill.”

    waiting to hear more about this…

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  • Point being Kemar is Spot on in his observations
    Him being close to what goes on with the realities and how govt has proceeded in the handling of govt services
    Would not be surprised if the Hilton is next
    Eyes and ears in the media should always be on the look out

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  • William Skinner

    @ Miller
    Regarding Comrade Austin. Many had problems with him being “ disrespectful” to the Blogmaster and calling people “ buffoons “
    Since his absence I have sat here and read some of the same people calling others such endearing and lively things as ; “ assholes” “ lunatics” “ liars” . Some have been declared “mental cases”There was also a big cuss out tge likes of which I have never seen before on any blog, anywhere in Barbados or the world.
    I was told by my grandmother: Who the cow likes he licks and who he hates he kicks.
    However , I blame Comrade Austin. He allowed them to get under his skin.
    Nowaday they dominate the blog daily with a lot of warm over soup all dedicated to serving their political masters.

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  • I’ll always maintain BU is an amazing forum. At times some people can be somewhat disingenuous and cynical as well…….. concerned only with their own interests.

    These same people seem to have either conveniently or purposely forgotten that during “Comrade Austin’s” PRESENCE, contributors were calling each other ‘yard-fowls, pea-brain, liars, mental cases, assholes, etc.’

    And, he took “being disrespectful” to ANOTHER LEVEL, by likening people to animals, calling them “such endearing and lively things as,” wild beast, predators and savages that should be in the jungle, hungry dingoes, hyenas, wild barking dogs, slimy pigs, vultures and buzzing flies……… degrading names that pale in comparison with ‘pea brain’ or ‘buffoon’………….. SIMPLY because they either proved him wrong or disagreed with his opinions.

    When reminded, his fan club would say they are not responsible for his behaviour, yet they would ‘call out’ other people, as they’re now doing, for behaving similarly.

    However, in all fairness, the same people he verbally abused would ‘give jack his jacket’ and commend him whenever he made an excellent contribution.

    Also, as recent as last week, a particular contributor referred to another as an “asshole.” Yet, this is the same contributor who is constantly being praised and encouraged to ‘educate and inform BU’ that dominates the blog daily with the same warmed over soup” to EVERY topic presented for ‘discussion.’

    The hypocrisy is overwhelming.

    But, I guess “who the dog likes he licks and who he hates he bites.”

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  • @ David

    As I previously mentioned, young Stuart should do some research and not allow himself to be misled by both the BLP and DLP that have been politicizing privatization when it is convenient for their political purposes.

    Interestingly someone ‘said’ they “would not be surprised if the Hilton is next.” This reminded me of David Thompson’s contribution in Parliament on Tuesday, November 10, 1992.

    Allow me to present some “warmed over soup” from Hansard:

    Hon. D. J. H. THOMPSON: Mr. Deputy Speaker, a policy of privatising state-owned enterprises is a major component of the measures which Government is implementing to stabilise the economy and lay the foundation for future economic growth. The Prime Minister and Minister of Finance and Economic Affairs in a recent address to the private sector stated that the privatisation programme will seek to achieve the following objectives:

    ….. To reduce the fiscal deficit to around 1% of the Gross Domestic Product by curbing the growth of public expenditure;

    ….. to transfer ownership and control of certain state-owned enterprises, in whole or part, from the public to the private sector;

    ….. to modify undue public sector involvement in economic activities and curtail the drain on scarce public resources;

    ….. to improve efficiency, competitiveness and output in the economy by cutting waste wherever possible, and by encouraging the private sector to play a leading role in helping to expand the economy;

    ….. to concentrate public sector expenditures generally in the areas of infrastructure and human resource development, and on the social services for equity in a just society, but targeting specific areas for economic development in the national interest through incentives or by other means;

    State-owned Enterprises approved for privatisation in the process of being privatised:

    Arawak Cement Company Ltd.
    Barbados National Oil Company Ltd.
    Barbados Transport Board
    Heywoods Holiday Resort
    National Petroleum Corporation.

    State-owned Enterprises approved for privatisation October 1, 1992 through sale of shares:

    Insurance Corporation of Barbados
    Caribbean Aircraft Handling Company
    Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation.

    Government intends to utilise the privatisation programme as a vehicle for broadening the base of the share-owning public in Barbados. In the execution of this policy every effort will be made to ensure that the Barbadian public is kept fully informed of the state owned enterprises to be privatised and of the consequential investment opportunities.

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  • @Artax

    Perfect.

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac
    I think one of your several phrases (and my apologies if I am incorrect), is that Time is longer than twine.
    Financial reports, which were many years in arrears, WERE produced for Caves of Barbados AND laid before the House. I suspect their production was a “timing” issue, and why we didn’t get mention in this year’s edition of the AudG report. It will come.
    Every year the GoB used to GIVE the Caves money GREATER than their revenue, AND they still LOST money.
    So imagine like JohnA you ran a shop. Your sales (revenue) was $250,000. In addition your daddy gave you $300,000, but the cost of running the shop totalled $700,000, so you lost $150,000 each year keeping it open.
    You can’t make this sh!t up!!!
    The primary reason these documents were produced, is the GoB would not be able to get a private operater to bid on the Caves without knowing WHAT the financial condition of the entity was.
    It just goes to show WHEN they wish to provide past reports they CAN.
    So how anybody, GoB, Union, or Operator could suggest that a change in management would NOT lead to a loss of jobs is beyond me.

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  • Side note.
    One comment on Austin
    He is a brilliant. He is not a saint..

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  • NorthernObserver

    @Artax
    On the topic of Hilton, that is another potential Clearwater. In one of the last filed annual reports, the auditors advised the Board, of the Overvaluation of assets. They went so far as to hire independent valuations, and the Board REFUSED to accept their advice.
    So whenever the time comes to sell/privatize the Hilton, we can expect a similar “impairment of value”. Maybe some genius can separate the land and the improvements, incorporate air and ocean rights, and turn that into a multi million payday?

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  • “He is a brilliant. He is not a saint..”

    No and yes.

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  • Seems like The Bookeeper has a vendetta against the man from the Ivy.

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  • “Every year the GoB used to GIVE the Caves money GREATER than their revenue, AND they still LOST money.”

    picking up the people’s money by the millions and giving it to crooks like foster et al to live off black lives freely….for DECADES ON END….

    while the depressed areas suffer and can’t get a decent salary or their severance/benefits etc…….don’t know why they believe that it won’t all come out and expose them…..we know that they are all dumb and mathematically deficient but even they should know that numbers ONCE PRODUCED for audit….don’t lie..

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  • Check it out Northern..from CROOK to CROOK..

    “The partially-built Harlequin Boutique Hotel, which has stood as an eyesore on Hastings Main Road, Christ Church, since 2013, is no more.

    The property, which was part of the failed Harlequin hotels being built by disgraced British developer David Ames, was demolished on Monday by its new owners, Preconco Ltd, whose founder and executive chairman is developer Mark Maloney.”

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  • “Go placidly amid the noise and haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence.”

    “As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons. Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.”

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  • Those tourists came into the island with their infected selves, spread the disease all over the place….were gladly encouraged by a careless government…

    vaccinations are NOT MANDATORY in any country they are coming from, but they are demanding to be served by vaccinated people…. that is what happens when you leave a tourism DEPENDENT SLAVE SOCIETY IN PLACE…even criminal tourists can make demands..

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  • What is the matter Artax?

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  • @ David

    Just repeating what the Desiderata says ………….. even the dull……. ‘you know the rest.’

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  • 5 million for blue horizon…..5 million for harlequin scam hotel…..maybe 5 million for hilton hotel”…..there is a pattern here…lawd…fire sale..

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  • @Artax

    Keep the focus and continue to add value to the blog using your ‘superior’ research skills.

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  • Isnt BWA In the black with the percentage from the sewage tax and the regotiation of the contracts?

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  • Miller…now we know why the yardfowl jumped out so perky and full of life and LIES on the other thread…another fire sale…we can expect many more..

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  • William Skinner

    @ Artax
    The problem is that everybody, including me, on BU trades insults or does things “similar” to Comrade Austin . However the “ vendetta “ was only against him.
    I read where some on this same BU hailed his departure or “ absence” , and in their high school “ gotcha” ecstasy were convinced they had scored some significant victory.
    . Amazingly , all those who cussed Comrade Austin are still welcomed on BU while he and he alone was declared the sole purveyor of insults because a few egos were bruised.
    I have not read where he was banned or told not to contribute any more to BU. I hope he returns and add his perspective to the discourse.
    However , it is most gratifying to read that there are those on BU who recognize that his analysis of several of our country’s ills was “spot on” and they miss having him around.
    Carry on smartly: We are all in this together.
    Peace.

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  • William Skinner

    I have not read where he was banned or told not to contribute any more to BU. I hope he returns and add his perspective to the discourse.
    However , it is most gratifying to read that there are those on BU who recognize that his analysis of several of our country’s ills was “spot on” and they miss having him around.

    Xxxxccccc

    Do u expect to read on BU that he was banned
    In Hal early dismissal his name mentioned in a comment was cause for moderation
    Hal did not leave BU
    BU closed the doors on Hal
    I would guess that by now after several attempts by those who hate and those who love him
    David might have opened up the welcome mat to Hal again
    Hal I guess at this point and time would have taken that mat and tell David to shove it where the sun doesn’t shine ((respectfully)
    What was his wrong
    To be truthful and upfront holding back his comments whether one agree or not
    A brilliant mind gone
    BU loss not Hal

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  • Would be of interest to see the agreements made in this deal
    Govt have given Maloney plenty land
    Wouldn’t be surprised if govt hands play a role in the harlequin deal

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  • Poor Skinner still hoping for Austin, s return.First and foremost Austin has to learn to redpect the blogmaster on whose blog he is on.He was repeatedly warned about his behaviour but ignored those warnings.While his friends claimed he is his own man and never condemned his insults towards the blogmaster.I for one AM GLAD AUSTIN HAS BEEN BANNED and i make no apologies to anyone on this blog..Perhaps it is time to moderate the madwoman Waru with her daily stale warm over soup as well boring the hell out of the blog having to scroll past her shite everyday is taxing.I gone.

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  • Worst govt ever
    No transparency
    No accountabity
    Blame past govt for the millions missing
    Here is a govt that rode in to parliament on a two horses one called transparency and the other accountabity
    Land giveaway
    Committees Gran murra and no one knows how and where govt finds the money to pay them
    What did of governance is this
    Banana republic or banana republic
    Hal they missing yuh real bad

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  • William Skinner

    @ Lorenzo
    How are you doing ? Hope you and family are doing well.
    Have a very nice evening.

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  • “Perhaps it is time to moderate the madwoman Waru”

    the dumbest yardfowl on the blogs…HOW will that stop me from EXPOSING ALL OF YOU WORLDWIDE…and causing EVEN MORE DAMAGE and sleepless nights…

    remember you ARE stuck ON BU ONLY…

    i have no such handicap…

    you are such a clown, Hal was NOT BANNED and am sure he is doing much better on the platform where he is at as i told him long ago to start something and contribute more…

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  • I wonder why the “rich as shiite” bookeeper with the Vitara has a vendetta against the man from the FT?

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  • William…the yardfowls are now ISOLATED….they can’t spew as much rubbish as they used to, they will soon see just how isolated they are….soon come..

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  • Angela Cox i think you got your governments mixed up.Your Dems of the lost decade were the most incompetent ever.It oversaw 24 downgrades to junk bond status.It bought not pne single bus or garbage truck for ten years causing garbage pile ups and three hour waits to get to and from work etc.Had sewerage running up onthe south coast for monthsHad some of the worst minosters ever excluding Mr Sealy who was a sucess in tourism and Mr M Lashley in housing.Lately had an ex minister found guilty of money laudering and you hot the audacity to speak about transparency etc? Lady stop making yourself look like a jackass.

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  • This govt made a promise to be transparent and accountable
    Present govt condemn past govt for all of the said doings
    Now having a 30_0 rule of governance
    Present govt throws the ball any which way it fits their purpose
    What a 30-0 waste
    Taxes galore
    Committees galore
    Poor man getting poorer
    Rich man getting rich

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  • Artax,

    You have correctly outlined the situation with Hal’s supporters. They cannot chastise him for doing what they take others to task for doing.

    Hal is a smart man who is sometimes brilliant and sometimes not. He can talk a roll of jobby at times.

    You and I have both freely acknowledged his worthy contributions on occasion.

    But he is a pompous prig, contradictory, contrary and hypocritical.

    And sometimes he lies!

    But as I understand it, his comments are being MODERATED. HE IS NOT BANNED. And if I recall correctly, the reason for this moderation is not because he called the blogmaster names but rather he refused to shift back on topic when asked. The blogmaster has asked that of me on a few occasions and I have done as he asked.

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  • William Skinner

    @ WURA
    All dem got egg in dey face. They do not even know that they are now on BU agreeing with each other. Trying the best to avoid the reality that they are one and the same. Defenders of two political parties that are now devoid of any decency. Determined to continuously rape our country . They are shame , cornered and now realise that BLPDLP is one and the same: Transparency, Accountability and Good governance are now on the garbage dump.
    Let them stew in their own fat. They want you banned because because you have not fallen for their “ sophisticated propaganda”. Everyday they trying to prove that thieving must be judged by the degree of thieving and not the act it self.
    I teef 5 mil. You teef 4.9 mil. Abracadabra: I am a bigger teef than you.
    Nowadays they call it “ research “ and “ balance”

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  • and that’s as good as it gets….

    Ds did it

    no Bs did it too

    Bs did this and that

    no Ds did this and that too

    but none could tell the Black population where the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS DISAPPEARED TO…,,leaving them in poverty…

    the only two letters in the alphabet the dumbest yardfowls know and stuck on a loop..

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  • Donna

    But as I understand it, his comments are being MODERATED. HE IS NOT BANNED. And if I recall correctly, the reason for this moderation is not because he called the blogmaster names but rather he refused to shift back on topic when asked. The blogmaster has asked that of me on a few occasions and I have done as he asked.

    Xxcccc a roll of jobby

    On the topic of commenting on a subject that does not give relevance to the article being posted
    This still happens without the moderator banning or moderating the comment
    Hal has contributed many articles to BU and made many comments at large
    His many articles and comments which might have offended are few and in between
    and are par for the course and cannot in any way outshine the brilliance of all other comments and articles he have presented over the years while he was on BU
    The short and long of the story being that at this point and time Hal views run with harshness and correctness to spotlight on govt incompetence a word that many of govt supporters find to be of an offence against govt
    Therefore Hal had to go

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  • “All dem got egg in dey face. They do not even know that they are now on BU agreeing with each other.

    Everyday they trying to prove that thieving must be judged by the degree of thieving and not the act it self.

    I teef 5 mil. You teef 4.9 mil. Abracadabra: I am a bigger teef than you.”

    they have no shame, the most CORRUPT LITTLE SLAVE SOCIETY governments ON EARTH…and they are so proud…

    i told them as plain as day what am going to do with and about them, because they are the ones made it personal when there was absolutely no need to….they wanted me in their lives i wanted NOTHING to do with any of this…but they insisted…and believe i am joking…they don’t even know how notorious they are….and they are not to present their corrupt, blighted demonic sellout, tiefing selves in the faces of any of my grands or great grands…am adamant about that..

    violating Black rights is their thing, let them carry on smartly….

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  • Maloney is expanding his empire.

    ” The partially-built Harlequin Boutique Hotel, which has stood as an eyesore on Hastings Main Road, Christ Church, since 2013, is no more.

    The property, which was part of the failed Harlequin hotels being built by disgraced British developer David Ames, was demolished on Monday by its new owners, Preconco Ltd, whose founder and executive chairman is developer Mark Maloney.”

    https://www.nationnews.com/2021/06/10/sold-harlequin-creditors-paid/

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  • @Hants

    What has become of the Blue Horizon property and particularly the adjacent seaside plot that is bundled with the deal?

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  • Donna
    And sometimes he lies

    Xxxxxx

    Evidence please

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  • Maloney is rich with all the free land he can buy Barbados soon

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  • There was talk about a Hard Rock Cafe in the mix.

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  • Wsru few care about you or your shite talk barring Miller and Skinner.Expose what ? Everyday you hot a breaking story pf something that will blow up big.We still waitng.This from someone who did not know who the representative of St Thomas is?Someone who copy and paste ideas from other people everyday?Go take your medication madwoman and stop boring us to tears.

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  • @ Mr. Skinner

    I actually DO NOT CARE who hailed “Comrade Austin’s departure or absence” or who “miss having him around.”

    For some people, his unwarranted attacks on others are justified. Those individuals who reciprocate means they have an ‘agenda.’

    Why not stop hiding behind David, you and others who are disappointed by the ‘comrade’s’ absence could create your own blog and invite him to participate?

    It’s that simple and a ‘win, win’ situation.

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  • an unwarranted attack on H …al bio was just censored on BU
    Yet the Trojan Mix featuring gun violence and explicit lewd language made the pages of BU
    No wonder Barbados social environment sinks to a low of dedregradtion
    A bio meant to inspire youth in a positive manner was taken down
    Meanwhile the Bio which depicts morals and good educational standards does not meet the approval of the blogmaster
    Uh wonder why

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  • @ Donna June 10, 2021 5:14 PM

    Why worry?

    Those are same individuals who come to BU talking about the ‘duopoly,’ yet, if you read their contributions carefully, you’ll realise their criticisms are always focused on the tenures of a specific political party. Then, ‘with straight faces, they have the gall to shamelessly talk about’ “sophisticated propaganda.”

    ‘Balanced discourse, educating and informing the forum ‘is ‘saying,’ for example, the PSVs are owned by policemen, government ministers, Indians and other minorities, who encourage their drivers to play music to destroy the minds of Black children, while ignoring the fact Black people own several PSVs either individually or collectively and would have share some of the blame and responsibility as well. To point out their ‘flawed logic’ means you’re absolving ‘your political masters of blame.’

    But, I don’t expect anything different since the political party those people supported is more or less a subsidiary of the other party.

    Lorenzo and Enuff seem to be the only ‘yard-fowls’ deserving of criticism. Criticizing the other yard-fowl is often met with condemnation.

    They’re hypocrites…… they are not men or women enough to talk to your face, preferring instead to drop snide remarks.

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  • I am puzzled. A veteran journalist wrote a concise article some ten years ago that focused pureiy on his grave concerns surrounding the Four Seasons development.

    Being a model professional he refused to call it out for what many of us believed it was: unrestrained corruption. He invited the reader to draw their own conclusions.

    If we were to judge the reactions of some, particularly his detractors, one would think that he is the instigator of all that is bad in Barbados. The bogey man who raided the public coffers.

    The current government is in serious trouble. They have lost their validity to govern and must be gravely concerned that their authority has eroded to such a degree that the masses will take matters into their own hands and ignore government directives.

    For example, the extremely weak Minister of Tourism, recently chastised those whom she claimed were disrespectful towards Barbados efforts to restore the tourism trade. With the growing levels of poverty on the island, there are some individuals who may target tourists as easy pickings. Whilst there are other groups who will gravitate towards tourists hotspots – beaches in particular – to extort money from the hoteliers or extract money from the tourists. A hungry man is a dangerous people.

    The looting of our country’s wealth by the duopoly has devastated the life chances of Donna’s boy and Artax’s grandchildren or future grandchildren and will render Barbados to a more violent future, where a sizeable number of its youth will be obliged to migrate.

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  • “This from someone who did not know who the representative of St Thomas is”

    only Slaves and yardfowls are supposed to know who corrupt politicians are…. that’s too LOW VIBRATION for me…

    can’t take the heat…stay off the blog….

    yall don’t even know how EXPOSED ya are…YA TOO DUMB TO BE AROUND…

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  • David answer this and be honest
    Why did you not allow a Bio that depicts a person of lowly upbringing and one who strived to be the best that they can be
    One whose access to Barbados educational system placed them on the right path towards success
    Now having a bio that can inspire any youth in this day and age to be the best towards themselves and a example for others to follow
    David are you that mean or just in old age showing off the political animal that lies within you

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  • Those two criminal governments STOLE the people’s money by the BILLIONS OF DOLLARS they and their criminal minority friends and now want the people they stole from to sit and smile while they and their children STARVE…that’s how WICKED they are….

    by the way…after all the free salary the Minister of Hairstyles has gotten for the past three years for doing VERY LITTLE OR NOTHING… has she been able to STOP the elderly and their beneficiaries from BEING ROBBED OF THEIR ESTATES BY LAWYERS YET?

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  • Did Ryan Straughan find the paper work David Ellis requested of him
    Lol another foolburt sent out by Mia to fool the masses

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  • And their fowl Slaves are TOO STUPID to realize that they are being talked about in Europe, UK and North America….everyone knows they robbed the Black population of opportunities, money and everything else for decdes..

    everyone knows about them and what they have done to the people who elected them, haven’t heard they TIEF ANYBODY’S ESTATES lately…that’s how much people know and are watching them……

    btw..whatever happened to WE GATHERING VICTIMS……found any victims lately??

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  • @anyone willing to discuss the subject at hand

    What can be done to move the AG’s report to action? Get the police involved? How!

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  • When and where did young Stuart become an Economist? Bdos Today and/or the youngster need to stop misleading the public.🤣

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  • Get what police involved
    Those involved would make evidence disappear like magic
    Would like to see the names involved in writing off the 124 million
    There must be a log book of attendance along with a registry book which gives account of those who voted on the write off
    As for the other millions missing it would serve purpose at this time if media reporters would do investigative reporting on the AGs findings
    Govt would never allow police to hunt and prosecute

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  • EnuffJune 10, 2021 7:38 PM

    When and where did young Stuart become an Economist? Bdos Today and/or the youngster need to stop misleading the public

    Xxx’xxxx
    So why don’t u set the record straight

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  • “What can be done to move the AG’s report to action? Get the police involved? How!”

    Didn’t the PM jump out and say that the police discriminate? that was a nice set up already put in place..

    the only remedy is TOTAL exposure…and then kick them out the parliament…

    let the young generation deal with this…they know what’s at stake…

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  • “The looting of our country’s wealth by the duopoly has devastated the life chances of Donna’s boy and Artax’s grandchildren or future grandchildren and will render Barbados to a more violent future, where a sizeable number of its youth will be obliged to migrate.”

    By mentioning Donna’s name and mine, you’re essentially suggesting we are the “comrade’s “detractors, who think that he is the instigator of all that is bad in Barbados. The bogey man who raided the public coffers.”

    If that is indeed your intention, perhaps you may want to highlight what phrases or sentences in our contributions gave you that impression.

    The ‘bone of contention’ here is, while you people believe he is brilliant and want force that opinion down the throats of others…… I do not believe he is. To me he is similar to any other contributor.

    And, if my opinions suggest to whom ever I have an agenda against him, then, so be it.

    Additionally, although he may have written about Four Seasons 11 years ago, perhaps you may want to indicate to the forum what are the significant differences between his opinions and those expressed by WARU-War-on-U, bearing in mind she was making similar comments about the failed resort for just as long?

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  • Hal.Bio underscores a brilliant mind
    A man of lowly background who reached Great heights of accomplishment
    No.one is perfect but for David to single him out just ” because ” is bold faced hypocrisy
    No one on this blog and I mean no one can boast of themselvesc reaching the heights of accomplishment that the brilliant mind has achieved for himself

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  • William Skinner

    DonnaNovember 20, 2018 8:48 AM

    So for clarity’s sake – we are arguing that the DLP was corrupt but that should not matter because the BLP is corrupt too?

    Can’t you people even see the futility of your arguments? Throw off the party shackles and see that this only enables this corruption. This is time for ALL of us admit where our foolishness has got us and change our ways. We are well on our way to being a “shithole” country.

    Wuhnuh like the smell uh SHIT?

    Now pray tell me what has changed since that comment was made. And yet every day , we have the same warmed over soup refusing to admit what @Donna so correctly stated back in 2018. There is no “research” or “balance” within the bowels of the BLPDLP. All they try to do is convince us that one is a bigger thief than the other ! So, now its the turn of the BEES to dismiss any semblance of of malfeance because the the other twin does it too. In 2018 it was the turn of the DEES to dismiss any semblance of malfeance because the BEES , the other twin does it too.
    All the apologists are peddaling is sophisticated propaganda designed to put their party in a brighter light. From Greenland to Cawhill; its the same old story. Do these brainwashed, apostles of Roebuck and George Streets expect anybody who can think for themselves to thank them for being “balanced” and actually praise them for being unhypocritical ?

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  • Are you people In here serious about hal not being In the blog

    Name any other person WHO was as disrespectful to david
    And not on one or two occassions But pretty often

    David back May be broad But he is not a camel and eventually a straw brokke the camel’s back

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  • William…am still waiting for the press conference to explain where the people’s millions and billions of dollars disappeared to while they and their families are suffering…we were getting a PRESS CONFERENCE A MINUTE for 3 straight years..

    .now the real press conference that has to do with the wellbeing of the people and an explanation about all their stolen money and we can’t hear a word…

    and that LOUD SILENCE is all the people need to KICK THEM OUT..

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  • If the NDP did g’et a bitr of the Cherry itvwould have been the shit. Only that three Shared In instead of two

    I voted for none and Will continue to do so

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  • @angela cox June 10, 2021 8:28 PM “No one on this blog and I mean no one can boast of themselvesc reaching the heights of accomplishment that the brilliant mind has achieved for himself.”

    How do you know this?

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  • Cuhdear BajanJune 10, 2021 9:46 PM

    @angela cox June 10, 2021 8:28 PM “No one on this blog and I mean no one can boast of themselvesc reaching the heights of accomplishment that the brilliant mind has achieved for himself.”

    How do you know this

    Xxxx
    Why do u protest.
    Post yours to prove me wrong

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac 7.46pm
    Spot on, there must be a record.
    I also suggest there must be a record of the accounts, and records from the Clearwater Bay board meetings?
    Let’s us dig deep to discover exactly what Clearwater had which was “recorded” at a value of $124M. And at what time did it lose value? And how?
    We know the corporate directors from the ICIJ leak.(most were senior public employees) The Accountant General must have an idea, $124M is a lot of money. And since the Corporate address was listed as The Ministry of Finance, I would expect senior staff from 2010 onward must have some insight into the Company.
    So it would appear that most of the directors, and likely all of the staff were public employees.
    Seems there are many records and people who could explain Clearwater Bay?

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  • Well let’s see how this works out, along with the scams and losses to the population, being fully vaccinated is no guarantee that ya don’t have and wont spread the virus..

    ..fill up the hotels and streets with vaccinated, Covid infected tourists and then boast about tourist numbers, see how well that works out..

    they have had 3 YEARS to diversify….over one year of incentives to not revert completely to dependency…and what did they do…..the only thing they know or have the mental capacity to do, revert to dependency only…

    “Two people traveling on the first North American cruise since March 2020 have tested positive for COVID-19.

    The passengers on the Celebrity Millennium shared a room and are now in isolation, cruise owner Royal Caribbean said in a statement. Both people are asymptomatic.

    All passengers on the cruise were required to be fully vaccinated if they were over age 18. All crew members were vaccinated, according to Royal Caribbean. The ages of the people who tested positive were not released.”

    i know people personally who have CREATED with their MINDS, like PLT did, multiple areas and ways of generating millions of dollars MONTHLY…in just 13 MONTHS….

    the pedigree clowns can only create more dependency…stop voting for pedigree clowns who can’t create anything…..and can only manifest losses and thefts to the population….the younger generation understands this clearly and will not be caught up in any DBLP trap….

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  • When they see later on how innovative and creative that BLACK PEOPLE after they showcase what they can do OFFSHORE, we know the PEDIGREE FRAUDS will try to work their tiefing magic, but not this time….yall are isolated and no one who is anyone, wants anything to do with yall..

    stick with tiefing everything in sight, yall wear it well…..keep up the fame..

    William…if they only knew how they lost out bigly this time…..but they deserve NOTHING LESS…

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  • Excuse me, David. One last comment off topic.

    Angela Cox,

    I have posted the evidence of Hal’s lies many, many times. I KNOW you saw it.

    Artax,

    I did pick up on the “Donna ‘s son” bit. The rest of it was as crappy as that little nugget.

    You have pointed out that Hal was not the only one who predicted the outcome of the project. That was also my point. Nothing special there.

    William Skinner,

    Don’t know what you mean by pulling up that statement but I do stand by it. You will note that I said “on the way”. Just in case you were trying to imply that my position has changed, I will add that so are a few other countries which shall remain nameless.

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  • DonnaJune 11, 2021 5:29 AM

    Excuse me, David. One last comment off topic.

    Angela Cox,

    I have posted the evidence of Hal’s lies many, many times. I KNOW you saw it.
    Xxxxxxx

    I do not read everything written on BU
    Xxxxxxxxxxxx
    Yesterday was another bloody day in Barbados given all that is being talked about the Auditor generals report and rightfully deserving
    The crime continues to rise amidst pageantry applause and growing hopes that tourist arrivals would bring Barbados economy back to.life
    As I have previously stated the small business group mostly trying to earned a living in downtrodden dilapidated Bridgetown deserves a bigger slice of the tourism pie
    Govt had three years to work on a plan which could have given Bridgetown and its surrounding environs a much needed face lift
    One which would have enticed tourist to enjoy our culture our history and our lifestyle in an open Bridgetown enviroment that captures and invite tourist curiosity encouraging tourist to spend more
    The auditor general report over the years have specifically point out the Hotel industry as gainers receiving much from the treasury while govt received the losing end in losses from money which was guaranteed loans to the industry backed by govt
    Why is it so hard for govt to see and understand that living within the corridors of Bridgetown is the small business person whose has as much potential in saving the economy of Barbados as the upper class businessman in the hotel industry

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  • The next 2 years will be SOOOOO interesting, can’t wait to see the move play out, what a book that will be……..don’t know how fake leaders who profess to have this and that degree could be so useless to the people who pay their salaries..

    lying and deceiving to be elected is no longer en vogue..

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  • William Skinner

    @ Donna
    “William Skinner,

    “Don’t know what you mean by pulling up that statement but I do stand by it. You will note that I said “on the way”. Just in case you were trying to imply that my position has changed, I will add that so are a few other countries which shall remain nameless.”
    You are very mistaken to suggest any motive other than to point out what you said then is just as accurate today. In other words the machinations of the BLPDLP do not change. Your piece has stood the test of time.
    I was careful to state thus:
    “Now pray tell me what has changed since that comment was made. And yet every day , we have the same warmed over soup refusing to admit what @Donna so correctly stated back in 2018”
    . Not for one moment did I imply you had changed your position and neither did I imply that you were incorrect.
    I hope this explanation clears up any misconceptions

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  • It’s all coming to a head, irreversible and not a moment too soon.

    they had the perfect opportunity, given them by the BLACK ELECTORATE…and what did the ignorant, greedy sellouts do, act as though it’s the corrupt racist minority thieves placed them in the parliament, as they have been acting and pretending for 54 years….as soon as they are elected, they pretend the majority population don’t exist and are always needy and begging, but refuse to acknowledge that they are the ones who pauperized the whole island with their corruption and THEFTS……the reason everything is so reduced and degraded…

    and ya see that corrupt supreme court, don’t change anything, leave the civil cases backlogged just like that…and watch the outcome….FRAUDS..

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  • William Skinner

    @ WURA
    Regarding Tourism; the vault of ideas is empty. The hoteliers have been quietly parting packages especially at the middle management level. It is a simple exercise using COVID as the scapegoat. Anybody who thinks that hotels operating at less than 20% of capacity is going to quickly rehire or employ new workers is in a very deep sleep. The almost complete neutering of the two main trade unions makes this task as easy as saying : cake.
    Don’t be too surprised if maids are not at the front desk and the gardeners cleaning the rooms. With weakened unions things such as jobs description gone through the window.
    It’s time the highly paid consultants go to our Prime Minister with creative ideas to reform the economy. It’s Barbados we are thinking of not the miscreants in Parliament and their brainwashed apostles of George and Roebuck Streets masquerading all over BU pretending they are God’s gift to reading and understanding what’s written.

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  • A defining moment William..

    ya can only perpetrate fraud for so long before it CATCHES UP with ya…

    there was a solid reason i told them to lay off the tourism, lean more towards the creatives AND NOT TO ROB THEM…

    now it’s blown up in their faces and they are ideas deficient, always have been, and no creative worth their salt would get involved in that shit show….no one who knows what to do will touch them with a hundred foot pole, especially not after the disrespect and bad manners they showed to PLT..

    and of course their bottom feeding yardfowls are USELESS AS USUAL..

    wait until there is no more money for the consultants to SUCK from the treasury and then they too will disappear from the fake paradise island, white hoax will be among the first to jump ship………just as who is watching all of this play out, they know the last tranche has already been drawn down..

    ah wonder who they think will repay those IMF loans at the rate they are still TIEFING…there comes a time when the electorate has to DRAW A BOUNDARY for these fake leaders and stick to it..

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  • Also note well, that in 13 months of LOCKDOWNS and very little else to do but create, they could not even create a curricula for the kids and stop the 11 plus Slave test permanently..

    similarly, they could not even create a new assessment standard to move the kids forward and away from the stupid colonial class based slave test…,,these are elementary, basic things and not even that they could manage..

    but yet they can suck on salaries every month like clockwork although many of the parishes still can’t get water….while they proudly promote the corrupt in the minority community,

    to quote Hal “it will not end well”…it can’t, look how much time they have had on their hands to do better…..and STILL can produce nothing..

    .but their fowls had the time to parade around the blog looking dumb as usual for three whole years..none of them have anything worth anything to offer the people.

    now they are left with highlighting in the news how much poverty has risen and how much their racist friends are helping them…

    hope the electorate has learned this valuable lesson.,,,and never forget it….after 54 years of the same old..

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  • The auditor general report over the years have specifically point out the Hotel industry as gainers receiving much from the treasury while govt received the losing end in losses from money which was guaranteed loans to the industry backed by govt

    Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Mari

    Post the evidence.

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  • btw and FYI…creativity CANNOT be taught in colonial schools…..ask the colonizers yaselves..

    it’s a special gift from OUR ILLUSTRIOUS AFRICAN ancestors…

    WHOM THEY ALL LOVE TO DISRESPECT…with their ignorant selves…

    everyone except the indoctrinated Slaves know this…lawd..

    😂🤣😍😎

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  • NorthernObserver

    @ac
    In addition to the voting record, I am sure as TheO’s top investigative reporter you would also like to know the exact motion and the background information provided? You don’t ask people to vote on something without informing them of the reasons?

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  • @ Hants June 10, 2021 5:42 PM
    (Quote)
    Maloney is expanding his empire.

    ” The partially-built Harlequin Boutique Hotel, which has stood as an eyesore on Hastings Main Road, Christ Church, since 2013, is no more.

    The property, which was part of the failed Harlequin hotels being built by disgraced British developer David Ames, was demolished on Monday by its new owners, Preconco Ltd, whose founder and executive chairman is developer Mark Maloney.”
    (Unquote):
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    That site, in the first instance, should have been the preferred location for the Hyatt hotel.

    Maybe MAM No.1 has decided to build on the old Harlequin property ‘another’ scaled-down version of his Hyatt Lighthouse ghost project in a fast dying Bridgetown about to be removed from the UNESCO list of World Heritage sites because it continues to fail to meet the standards of upkeep required to maintain such a designation.

    It would be interesting to find out if the site is earmarked for condos or another hotel to compete with his Blue Horizon cum Hard Rock Café in an area already overburdened with sewage challenges.

    Maybe MAM is about to change his vehicle and is eying a fully-loaded duty-free Tesla Model Y.

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  • And don’t think he won’t import one just to PROVE that he owns the airhead nigas..

    that is what caused the Holder child’s death, proving that the frauds in the parliament are owned Slaves of minority crooks, liars, racists and thieves.

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  • “….Bridgetown about to be removed from the UNESCO list of World Heritage sites because it continues to fail to meet the standards of upkeep required to maintain such a designation.”

    Huh? If this were true many WHS in London would be de-designated by now. Folks with no understanding of signicance, setting, scale of harm etc bumping them gums. Big Expertise pampalam.

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  • Milluh
    Keep trying! Again personal and picking and choosing. I was not interested in LSE, chose the best there is , not the better but the BEST. You can’t win with me.

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