Submitted by Grenville Phillips II

We have been asked how we would have responded to COVID-19.  We provided our best advice about one year ago, but the Government rejected it at that time.  Given the foreseen nightmare scenario, they should reconsider – for all our sakes.

In the past 15 days, we had 15 new deaths.  In the previous 15 days, we had 7.  In the previous 15, we had none, as shown in the attached graph.  This wave of deaths appears to have started after the UK variant arrived in Barbados.

On 3 March 2021, we can expect a total of 44 deaths if the growth rate is linear, or 59 if it is exponential.  If the growth is exponential, as the data suggests, then we can expect a total of over 100 deaths by 18 March 2021.  The assumed growth rate may be verified on 3 March 2021.

GOOD MANAGEMENT.

The only way to avoid the nightmare exponential growth scenario, is to manage all aspects of the COVID-19 response well.  We cannot risk using our home-grown management methods to manage this pandemic anymore.  Those methods have consistently failed us over the past 50 years.

When our management systems failed, the normal consequences were being forced to pay higher taxes, to wait longer for declining standards of service.  There were blips of improvement, but that only lasted until the quality employee was seen as a threat, and was made redundant.

Bad management only appears to work if there are few customers and products.  Once the number of customers and products increases, the system normally fails.  When it fails, the only thing left is public relations to give sorry excuses.  If the public relations is effective, the customers will blame themselves.

GOOD ADVICE.

It seems that we must comply with the WHO and PAHO requirements to receive their assistance.  Therefore, we must keep our borders open.  However, we should mandate that all visitors to Barbados must be properly quarantined at authorised facilities, for 14 days – no exceptions.

We should manage the: air and sea ports, transportation to quarantine facilities, quarantine facilities, QEH and other health clinics, isolation facility at Harrison point, contact tracing, and the Best Dos Santos lab, to ISO 9001 principles.  Even at this late stage, all of that can still be accomplished within 2 weeks.

REJECTING AN INTERNATIONAL STANDARD.

For some strange reason, the Government rejected the international management standard when I first recommended it about 17 years ago.  I since repeatedly offered to implement it in all statutory corporations in Barbados, free of cost.  But no takers.

About 3 years ago, all statutory corporation CEOs were invited to a free public workshop on implementing the standard.  They were guaranteed that following the training, they would be capable of implementing the ISO 9001 principles the following day.  Not a single CEO attended.  The Government has since publicly trashed the international standard – for political reasons.

NOT HAPPENING.

Based on my 17 years of active efforts, I do not expect the Government to consider the desperately needed international management standard at this time.  Especially since it is designed to delight customers with exceptional service, and eliminate corruption.  We simply cannot reject our 50-year cultural traditions so easily.  That is not who we are.

The weakness of our management system is evident, with over 30 unnecessary deaths.  Yet, we persist with it, and continue to reject the obvious solution.  Instead of surrendering our pride, retreating from what is not working, and embracing what will, we are encouraged to stay the course – to foreseen destruction.

LETTER FROM THE FUTURE.

I expect the Government will finally see the light in May 2021.  That is when the total forecasted deaths from exponential growth exceed 1,000, and we should get a scathing rebuke from the WHO for our politically motivated stubbornness.

At that time, we would wish that we could go back in time to this point, and change-course to avoid the foreseen and likely nightmare.  Well, think of this as a letter from the future, encouraging us to do just that.

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

168 responses to “Difficult Conversations – What Would We Do?”


  1. Monitoring Unit acting on tip-offs
    Barbadians are the ones tipping off the COVID-19 Monitoring Unit, says director Ronald Chapman.
    Speaking after a number of people were hauled before the District “A” Magistrates’ Court on Wednesday for a variety of breaches, he said most, if not all, of the cases brought before the court resulted from tip-offs.
    He said those who were breaching protocols were “hanging out in bars and little places where they think that they are not seen. So people are seeing you and they are quietly reporting you”.
    Chapman stressed the process of calling the unit was completely anonymous.
    “I want Barbadians to know any report they make they don’t have to give their name, they don’t have to give their number, they don’t have to give their address. They just have to tell us where something is happening and we will respond because we really need to bring this thing under control.” (HLE)


  2. RE We cannot risk using our home-grown management methods to manage this pandemic anymore. Those methods have consistently failed us over the past 50 years.

    ABSOLUTE RUBBISH
    UNDER SIR MAURICE BYER, VAUGHN WELLS ETC WE HAD VERY GOOD PUBLIC HEALTH CARE

    WE OUGHT TO LISTEN TO THE home-grown management methods to manage this pandemic ADVANCED BY DR E O DOUGHLIN RATHER THAN THE IMPORTED RUBBISH FROM DR FALSY AND THE WHO WHICH IS LED BY A NON DR. THEN WE WILL DO MUCH BETTER

    GRENVILLE YOU ARE AGAIN OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE HERE. YOU PROBABLY MEAN WELL BUT PLEASE STAY IN YOUR LANE

    RE The weakness of our management system is evident, with over 30 unnecessary deaths.
    WHAT ARE UNNECESSARY DEATHS?
    HOW DOES 30 DEATHS MAKE OUR MANAGEMENT SYSTEM WEAK.?
    PLEASE KINDLY EXPLAIN FROM YOUR VAST EXPERIENCE IN THE PRACTICE OF MEDICINE AND YOUR EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE OF PUBLIC HEALTH GENERALLY AND THE HISTORY OF PUBLIC HEALTH IN BARBADOS

    RE Based on my 17 years of active efforts, ……..IN WHAT? MEDICINE? PUBLIC HEATH MATTERS?
    IF YOUR ANSWER IS NO YOU SHOULD SHUT UP

    WE HAVE BASICALLY DONE WELL SO FAR….DUE MAINLY TO BEING A WIND SWEPT LITTLE ISLAND BUT THERE ARE A FEW MORE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE


  3. Hi GP:

    We have been calling for a 14-day quarantine period, and effective management of the quarantine facilities. That alone would have prevented the current spread.

    We have qualified medical personnel. We have working equipment. We simply need to manage them properly.

    A good management system can accommodate foreseen shocks. A bad management system fails during such events. In a pandemic, with potential fatal consequences, good management is critical.

    Why is the Best Dos Santos lab failing so often? Why are the quarantine facilities failing so often? The obvious solution is better management.


  4. Why is the Best Dos Santos lab failing so often?

    I DONT KNOW IF AND HOW THEY ARE FAILING

    AND I DONT KNOW WHAT METHODS THEY ARE USING FOR THEIR VIRAL STUDIES
    WE USED IN TIMES PAST TO SEND OUR VIRUS STUDIES TO TRINIDAD
    IF WE ARE DOING THEM IN BIM NOW, THAT IS GOOD AND A GREAT IMPROVEMENT

    I DONT KNOW IF THE STAFF LEVELS ARE ADEQUATE
    BUT I DO KNOW THAT VIRAL STUDIES IS MORE TIME CONSUMING THAN BACTERIAL STUDIES

    HAVE YOU CONSIDERED OR KNOW THE ANSWER TO ANY OF THE ABOVE?

    RE A good management system can accommodate foreseen shocks. A bad management system fails during such events
    IN THEORY ONLY
    YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW NO MICROBIOLOGY AT ALL
    MICROBIAL TESTS REQUIRE TIME …………THAT IS TIME FOR THE MICROBES TO REPLICATE AND GROW
    THIS TIME CANNOT BE MANAGED BY LABORATORY PERSONNEL

    . In a pandemic, with potential fatal consequences, good management is critical.
    GOOD MANAGEMENT IS ALWAYS CRITICAL………..BUT IS MANAGEMENT THE PROBLEM HERE?
    YOU CAN MANAGE THE FACILITIES, THE ACQUISITION OF REAGENTS AND THE PERSONNEL…….BUT YOU CAN NOT MANAGE the growth rate constant OR the mean generation (doubling) time OR OTHER IMPORTANT PARAMETERS FOR MICROBIAL GROWTH USED TO DETERMINE PRESENCE OR ABSENCE OF MICROBES.

    PERHAPS YOU CAN TEACH THE LAB TECHNICIANS HOW TO DO THAT
    .


  5. “I expect the Government will finally see the light in May 2021. That is when the total forecasted deaths from exponential growth exceed 1,000″…

    At least you have the sense to say “forecasted” deaths. I expect the actual number of deaths to be nowhere in that region.


  6. The good thing about Barbados is 30-40-50.. deaths still seem high
    but these are small compared to other countries daily death rates

    we have heard the same crap over and over

    The trump nuts talk about hydroxychloroquine
    but trump still caught it + tests say it has small benefits
    and has reached the end of the line for use for covid

    same people boast they know more than everyone else
    when medical field say they do not know what is happening

    the problems are not just about spread of virus / breathing in and out
    but how respiratory system / oxygenation in blood / organs fail to function

    the whack jobs keep posting nonsense
    which is in tune with grenville’s posts


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62bx_f3letc


  7. The only thing there I agree with is the quarantine period. Everything else is rubbish.

    Countries that have international standards up the wazoo have all been slammed by Covid. Italy, France, USA, UK.

    Stupse.

    Thirty deaths for Barbados is very sad for the families, but for the country, not a large number. Will there be one thousand soon as your extrapolating of the graph, based on current trends? We do not know.

    But it will not due to ISO. The biggest two issues are probably medical resources and for Bajans to listen to the officials, instead of doing as dum like.


  8. Crate Diggers 2021 Deep House

    While in Lockdown

    Ease Ya Mind
    (Mango Boys Dub)


  9. (Quote):
    At least you have the sense to say “forecasted” deaths. I expect the actual number of deaths to be nowhere in that region. (Unquote).
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Another fortune teller, like the GP ‘know-it-all’ No.2, also looked into the same crystal ball (in the Sky) and has projected that the rate of infection along with any resulting deaths of those ‘chronically challenged’ with co-morbidities shall also ‘increasingly’ Decline after the 20th March and could, in all probabilities after 202nd September, reverse direction; unless stopped in its man-modified deadly Chinese-whispering tracks by another man-made vaccine called the ‘Covid-19 Counter’.


  10. RE Another fortune teller, like the GP ‘know-it-all’ No.2, also looked into the same crystal ball (in the Sky) and has projected that the rate of infection along with any resulting deaths of those ‘chronically challenged’ with co-morbidities shall also ‘increasingly’ Decline after the 20th March and could, in all probabilities after 202nd September, reverse direction; unless stopped in its man-modified deadly Chinese-whispering tracks by another man-made vaccine called the ‘Covid-19 Counter’.

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I HAVE MADE NO PREDICTIONS ABOUT EITHER the rate of infection OR ABOUT resulting deaths of those ‘chronically challenged’ with co-morbidities DUE TO COVID 19

    PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I AM NOT A FORTUNE TELLER, OR A KNOW IT ALL NOR DO I CONSULT ANY CRYSTAL BALL
    HOWEVER AS A SOUND STUDENT OF THE SCRIPTURES IT IS CLEAR THAT COVID 19 IS ONE OF THE PLAGUES IN THE BIRTH PANG SIGNS THAT JESUS IN THE OLIVET DISCOURSE IN MATTHEW 24 V 7 PREDICTED WOULD PRECEDE HIS EPHIPHANEA………NOT THE RAPTURE: THERE ARE NO SIGNS FOR THE RAPTURE WHICH IS SAID TO COME SUDDENLY LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT


  11. “unless stopped in its man-modified deadly Chinese-whispering tracks by another man-made vaccine called the ‘Covid-19 Counter’.”

    you may have inadvertently hit the nail on the head and cracked the case holmes… President George Clinton of Funkadelic Parliament fame had a wild and funky musical excursion through the inner workings of the corrupt modern American medical machine with some song lyrics that said “I’m Gon Make U Sick O’Me … and then I gon give you the antidote..”. The virus and mutations and sicknesses all happened in countries where they have bio-labs that specialise in biowarfare and fit and strong soldiers and navy personnel have been spreading it worldwide in military execises. The world has been int PNAC non stop war aka WWIII on a slow burn since 2000 with MIC WMDs / Drones / Regime Changes / local mercenaries / black ops / psyops / propaganda but it isn’t even covered in news much and nobody cares or is moved to do anything about it to stop it as all these wars are waged abroad and not at home by the west and classified top secret where it is neither confirmed or denied. There is so much shit happening no one knows who is doing what and everyone is watching everyone watching everyone and everyone is blaming the other one to cover up their own crimes to humanity.


  12. Extrapolations)projections should be done with care. There is more to them than plugging a number in a formula or drawing a straight line.

    An easy read. The third graph is something we should think of.
    https://life.solventuregroup.com/2020/05/27/limitations-of-forecasting-techniques/


  13. The fuckwit doctor is predicting the end of the world in 2021 based on analysis of secret code found in Israel texts, but he doesn’t realise that the prophecies are warnings to avoid wickedness and USA, Israel, Uk are satanists that are following the script. They are after one man the son of man so they can rule the world in dominion. It is alleged they have been working with grays aliens for their tech


  14. I believe that given a small population we will soon see a drop-off in the number of new cases.

    This belief does not even take the introduction/effect of vaccines into consideration.

    If Mia can keep it together, enforce the rules fairly, vaccinate her people, preach hand washing, social distancing and masking, then at some time in the future she will be considered a genius.

    Previously, I was betting that she could win both the risky short game and the long game. I have given up on the short game …. the long game favors her.


  15. THEO

    MIA IS NO GENIUS. SHE IS A COPIER

    THE FACT THAT WE HAVE ABUNDANT SUNLIGHT THAT CONVERTS THE CHOLESTEROL IN OUR SKINS TO THE
    CO-ENZYME VITAMIN D IS THE MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO ANY SUCCESS THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED.
    IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THE VIRUS HAD/HAS TO BE BROUGHT IN

    VIT D HAS NO DOUBT BEEN AT THE FORE IN COUNTERACTING CELLULAR PATHOPHYSIOLOGY IN MANY WHO HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO THE VIRUS, BUT HAVE HAD NO, OR VERY MILD SYMPTOMS

    MANY PERSONS HAVE CONTRACTED THE VIRUS WHO WERE ENGAGED IN hand washing, social distancing and masking AND LOCKDOWN,

    I DID ALL OF THE ABOVE AND STILL GOT THE VIRUS

    VIT D QUININE HEAVY METAL IONS KEPT THE SYMPTOMS IN ABEYANCE UNTIL MY FINAL INTERVENTION WITH TETRACYCLINE WHEN THE SYMPTOMS FLARED UP FOR 8 HOURS


  16. Someone better tell that Doctor Cunt Finger that no one is talking to him they are just talking about him
    That man is a ghost a dead man walking with circa 364 days left to go tops maxi maxi maximum
    When people brag and boast the most that they were the best top student in their class when they were at school it means they were a massive failure in life as they are not people people and everyone hates them with a passion in a style and fashion that cannot be rationed

    It’s a Man’s Man’s Man’s World
    But it wouldn’t be nothing, nothing without a woman or a girl
    Birds of Prey


  17. https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
    “the bars in the chart below show the number of deaths either per 100 confirmed cases (observed case-fatality ratio) or per 100,000 population (this represents a country’s general population”
    Let’s out ourselves in the same category as the US and for ease of calculation 2 (2%) deaths in every 100 cases. To see 1,000 deaths in Barbados then we would expect to observe 50,000 cases. Is this number realistic?

    Fearmongering……


  18. @ GP February 20, 2021 4:55 PM
    “PLEASE KINDLY NOTE THAT I AM NOT A FORTUNE TELLER, OR A KNOW IT ALL NOR DO I CONSULT ANY CRYSTAL BALL
    HOWEVER AS A SOUND STUDENT OF THE SCRIPTURES IT IS CLEAR THAT COVID 19 IS ONE OF THE PLAGUES IN THE BIRTH PANG SIGNS THAT JESUS IN THE OLIVET DISCOURSE IN MATTHEW 24 V 7 PREDICTED WOULD PRECEDE HIS EPHIPHANEA………NOT THE RAPTURE: THERE ARE NO SIGNS FOR THE RAPTURE WHICH IS SAID TO COME SUDDENLY LIKE A THIEF IN THE NIGHT..”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Dear Madman No.1, no one is fingering you on this occasion for being a “fortune teller” although you can be a bigger bogus story teller.

    It is the other “GP” the Second in material riches who is doing the fortune telling on this occasion.

    As for your Olivet Discourse on the prediction of the coming plagues and the subsequent Rapture as the Earth spins at 67K mph around the Sun what do you think the bogus book of revelation is all about other than the psychotic imaginings of some closeted homosexual hermit of a monk hooked on some hallucinogenic substance and in need of some outlet for his built-up sexual frustrations?

    You lot of bogus conmen cannot even account for the events which took place during the major half of the life of the same Jesus Christ (from the chronological age of 12 to 30 on the esoteric calendar of alchemy) yet you want to peddle the bullshit that the man was the only son of some god who, it appears, must have sent him off to a real university in the East to study Buddhism whose teachings were clearly at odds with Judaism.


  19. “what do you think the bogus book of revelation is all about other than the psychotic imaginings of some closeted homosexual hermit of a monk hooked on some hallucinogenic substance and in need of some outlet for his built-up sexual frustrations?”

    Just as plausible as divine inspiration.



  20. It used to be said that all roads lead to Rome. Now all solutions shall lead to ISO 9001. I would not be surprised if our ISO Taliban also wants to subject the reproductive behaviour of our people to ISO 9001. Some worship Sharia, our local Taliban ISO 9001.


  21. “a monk hooked on some hallucinogenic substance and in need of some outlet “

    Perhaps he used to be fucked up on drugs but then became fucked up on God

    George Bush and Tony Blair said they both spoke to God for his advice whether to invade Iraq but probably called the wrong number

    When blacks like GP say they believe in God, whites will suddenly say they don’t believe in that crap


  22. I am still not convinced that many of the “COVID” deaths are not due to the epidemic of NCD’s in Barbados.

    I think people are more likely dying with COVID and not from it!!

    If I told you the three lines in the graph below represent the death rates for Barbados and 2 other countries, USA and UK, up to 2018, which one would you say is Barbados, which one the US and which one the UK?

    https://imgur.com/milvetG


  23. The period is from 1960 to 2018, pre covid.


  24. Not much to choose among the 3 countries in 2018.


  25. 8.6, 9 and 9.3 per 1000 in 2018.

    Average say 9.

    So lets say Barbados had a death rate of 9 persons per 1,000 in 2018.

    Then if we approximate the population to 300K in 2018 then there were about 2,700 deaths back then.

    Since there is a rising trend, then we can expect there will be more than 2,700 deaths in 2020 and 2021.


  26. I won’t keep you in suspense, here is the answer.

    Barbados is the country out of the three which had the lowest death rate in 1997, 7.468 per 1,000.

    The death rate has risen by 1.5 per 1,000 between 1997 and 2018 so there are about 450 persons more dying in 2018 when compared with 1997 assuming the same population.

    https://imgur.com/ewrkf3w


  27. Danger Danger
    Ring the Alarm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1MxCSRWgI0


  28. “Since there is a rising trend, then we can expect there will be more than 2,700 deaths in 2020 and 2021.”

    You canexpect (project) more deaths, but that does not mean anything. Look at the blue line 1990 to 1998 a downward trend but in 2000 you can see it trending upwards. Projections can be dead wrong.


  29. The ‘Barbadosod’ graph appears incredibly smooth compared to the others. It does not exhibit the wavelike (choppy) curves of the other two. This makes me suspicious of what numbers went into it.


  30. TheOGazertsFebruary 20, 2021 9:03 PM

    The ‘Barbadosod’ graph appears incredibly smooth compared to the others. It does not exhibit the wavelike (choppy) curves of the other two. This makes me suspicious of what numbers went into it.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Flu perhaps!!

    Climate perhaps!

    Look at causes of death in UK and US and compare them with here.

    NZ and Australia are fitness crazy countries!!


  31. NZ and Australia also burst our asses in cricket!!


  32. Suicide is a big problem in US and UK as is the opioid epidemic.

    There is hypothermia which takes many.

    The old get hit hardest in winter.

    Point is there are more causes of death in larger countries than here.

    That might be the reason for the fluctuations.

    Look at daily death stats for the UK for the first 6 moths of 2018, Winter takes alot.

    We don’t have seasons here.

    https://imgur.com/E4gbZYI

    Here the effect of winter is clearly shown in the UK.

    https://imgur.com/zmxPixc

    US has the winter effect as well.


  33. RE Another virus is with us.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-56140270

    NOT SURPRISED
    THAT IS EXPECTED
    PLAGUES ARE PART OF THE BIRTH PANG SIGNS OF THE EPIPHANEA GIVEN BY JESUS IN THE OLIVET DISCOURSE IN MATTHEW 24……….AND THIS CANNOT BE REFUTED


  34. What we need is a graphical representation of deaths by day and by year like the UK statistics.

    What if at the end of 2021 we see somewhere around 2,700 deaths as one would expect?

    We would then know that people were dying with COVID, not of it.

    The daily statistics need to be available.

    Hopefully the authorities are using them!!


  35. Are we living at the ‘hinge of history’?

    When humanity first made plans to send probes and people into space in the mid-20th Century, the issue of contamination came up.
    Firstly, there was the fear of “forward” contamination – the possibility that Earth-based life might accidentally hitch a ride into the cosmos, or on return to earth.

    Spacecraft needed to be sterilized and carefully packaged before launch. If microbes snuck onboard, it would confuse any attempts to detect alien life. And if there were extra-terrestrial organisms out there, we might end up inadvertently killing them with Earth-based bacteria or viruses, like the fate of the aliens at the end of War of the Worlds. These concerns matter just as much today as they did back in the Space Race era.

    The fact that SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in Wuhan, China, far from where the horseshoe bat is found, hints at the presence of an intermediary.

    Did SARS viruses hitch a ride to earth 🌏???


  36. @Grenville Phillips “I expect the Government will finally see the light in May 2021. That is when the total forecasted deaths from exponential growth exceed 1,000”

    Who made this forecast?

    I thought that you were a structural engineer, not an epidemiologist. Deaths can reach 1,000 by May if we do nothing. But if we mask, wash, distance and immunize the number of fatalities is unlikely to reach that number.

    I forecast that by May our yeo-woman public health nurses will have immunized all adult Bajans and residents. They are already immunizing almost 3,000 vulnerable people per day. And if a vaccine has been developed for children, then the children will have been immunized also and that we will have reached herd immunity.

  37. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV Avatar
    Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TV

    “I am still not convinced that many of the “COVID” deaths are not due to the epidemic of NCD’s in Barbados.

    I think people are more likely dying with COVID and not from it!!

    @JohnBoy
    If you would stop dismissing COVID-19 as a flu and take the time to find out how this virus is ACTUALLY killing people with NCDs then you will realize how serious it is and how ignorant you are. The fatality rate of people with NCDs who caught COVID-19 is significantly higher. If you have a NCD how your immune system reacts along with the virus doing damage itself is what is causing those fatalities.
    If you are insinuating that those people would die anyway from NCDs, that reasonable steps should not be taken to save them from COVID-19, then you are clearly a sociopath. Gov’t has to protect ALL its citizens and not throw those with NCDs under a COVID-19 bus.


  38. Disgusting Lies & Propaganda TVFebruary 21, 2021 12:50 AM @JohnBoy If you would stop dismissing COVID-19 as a flu and take the time to find out how this virus is ACTUALLY killing people.

    ++++++++

    That is it exactly. The problem is that so many dismiss Covid19 as just a respiratory issue. It is not. It causes inflammation throughout the body. That is why the children are also being affected with the inflammation syndrome.

    It exacerbates the vascular and clotting issues of those with heart and circulation problems, causes clots in various organs, thereby creating issues in those organs, just as it does with the lungs.

    This is why in the government press conference, do you remember Dr,Cave making a reference that Covid19 could present as a stroke?

    That is why. It is also why a cheap steroid is being commonly used in Covid19 cases and why all of the experimental drugs, used before for other inflammatory illnesses seem to work with Covid19 in reducing mortality.

    Here is an example of one drug.

    https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210208/Can-early-use-of-colchicine-reduce-COVID-19-mortality.aspx

    As an aside, adults are also being affected by inflammatory syndrome after the initial Covid19 infection. This is why it cannot be dismissed as a flu. People get over the flu. Or the majority except the very most immune compromised.

    Many young and healthy people are not getting over Covid-19.


  39. @Tony The fact that SARS-CoV-2 was first detected in Wuhan, China, far from where the horseshoe bat is found, hints at the presence of an intermediary.

    I do not believe that Santa Claus exists. Nor the tooth fairy.

    There is an experimental lab in Wuhan. The virus originated close to the lab. The US intelligence services have gone on record saying that a number of lab employees were sick in the autumn of 2019.

    The math I learned in school said that 1+1=2.

    I believe evidence over publicity. Only a very naive person thinks that this virus comes from eating a bat.


  40. Tony et al.

    The question that you should be asking is not whether this virus is natural occurring or man made.

    The question to be asked is whether it is an accident or deliberate biological warfare?

    That question is the one that we need an answer for. If the latter, then who and with what motive?

    If it is the latter, that does not mean it was the Chinese.


  41. OFF GUARD
    BEC: Some businesses surprised by lockdown extension
    By Colville Mounsey
    colvillemounsey@nationnews.com
    The extended lockdown caught many business owners by surprise and as a result they may be forced to lay off workers.
    Executive director of the Barbados Employers’ Confederation (BEC), Sheena Mayers-Granville, said many business owners were unprepared for the extending of the lockdown, which now runs until February 28 to mitigate the spread of COVID-19.
    Mayers-Granville explained that when the lockdown was first announced for February 3 to 17, many employers were under the impression that they were operating under the parameters of a 15day pause, and therefore made plans accordingly. She argued that it was only as the original end date drew close that they learnt that the reopening was contingent on several metrics, such as the positivity rate and the R-number.
    The positivity rating refers to the percentage of positive cases from the daily tests done, while the R-number refers to the rate of spread from a single infected person.
    She argued that had employers been kept in the loop, some might have been able to put measures in place to stave off the impending impact on their companies and staff.
    ‘Lack of information’
    “The business community did not know that the positivity rate and the R-number needed to be in a certain range in order to trigger the reopening. That type of information would have been most useful for businesses. If they had this information, they would have been able to monitor the trends and make business decisions knowing what would be in the pipeline. There is now more clarity than there was at the beginning,
    but I am not really sure how clear the path forward really is,” said Mayers-Granville.
    She added: “When we first went into lockdown, it was unclear what would be crucial data to determine if the lockdown would have lessened or extended. There is more clarity at this point following the most recent revelation of the extension, but that should have been made clear at the beginning. Just like every other Barbadian, the business community is going to be monitoring the numbers on the daily cases that have been released and to try and make the appropriate decisions at this time.”
    One week before Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley announced the 11-day extension of the shutdown, Minister of Health Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Bostic, in an interview with this newspaper, put Barbadians on notice that unless the positivity rating fell below five per cent in the coming days, he intended to recommend that the country remained closed a little longer.
    However, the BEC head said by that time businesses had already made arrangements only for the initial 15 days of lockdown, and as a result, many business owners were either in evaluation mode or they simply could not pay staff during the extension.
    “I can indicate to you that many businesses are struggling at the moment, and leading up to February 3 some would have made adjustments in terms of layoffs, as most retrenchments would have been done last year. With the extension, they have now had to re-evaluate; some who were able to pay employees for the first two weeks are not able to pay during this extension and those persons are now facing a layoff situation,” she said.
    Mayers-Granville also pointed out that with the National Insurance Scheme already paying over 52 000 claims last year, the situation is now compounded as many workers may not be able
    to qualify for unemployment benefits until much later this year.
    “The other issue is that because many persons would have already exhausted their unemployment benefits, many of them may not be eligible for unemployment benefits until around June, and that is a very conservative estimate. If you have exhausted your unemployment benefits, you must work at least 52 weeks before you become eligible.”
    “So if persons were laid off during the shutdown last year, which resulted in persons being laid off all the way in September, then those persons would need to have been working until September 2021. The fact of the matter is that both employee and employers are in very difficult circumstances and what we are encouraging is communication between both players and through that communication seek
    to find mutually agreeable solutions,” she said.

    Source: Nation


  42. DOC’S SAY ON JABS
    Cave: Vaccines may become mandatory for some
    By Colville Mounsey colvillemounsey @nationnews.com
    COVID-19 vaccinations could become mandatory for health care workers and for travel, says Director of Medical Services at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital, Dr Clyde Cave.
    He said while there is debate surrounding the issue of mandatory vaccinations, those in the medical field are already required to take some vaccinations while travel to some jurisdictions also require inoculation from certain diseases.
    “I know that this is a big debate and it is going to be controversial and I really don’t know why. We already say that to work in an institution you should be vaccinated against hepatitis B and against chickenpox, not only for your own health but also to ensure that you do not spread it to your patient.
    ‘Long history’ “So we have a long history of other vaccinations that are a part of the requirements from the time we were medical students. These are also required for jobs internationally. We also have vaccinations for yellow fever when we travel to certain countries, so I really don’t understand why people are making it into a potentially big problem,” Cave said.
    Making it clear that his views were merely based on his experience and not on any official discussion on public policy, Cave said much would depend on the safety of the vaccine as well as its availability to the public.
    “Once we have a safe vaccine that is effective and widely available, then it is likely we are going to follow suit like we have been doing for the other diseases. I don’t think that we can stand by watching our elderly, health care workers, family and friends, get sick while we argue over fine points. Again, let me reiterate that this is just my personal opinion as each country makes its own judgement in this department,” he explained.
    Infant mortality
    The paediatrician argued that much of the advancements in modern medicine that are now taken for granted, are due to vaccines that were first met with some degree of resistance. Currently, Barbados’ infant mortality rate as of 2019 was 11.7 to 1 000 births, which is one of the lower rates in the region, an accomplishment which Cave partly attributed to mandatory vaccination of children.
    “I am not even sure if this is something that public opinion would allow very soon, but I am old enough to remember when we went through all of these discussions on public health interventions that were a first in the system, but certainly now as a paediatrician I can tell you that the biggest impact on child death in the last 100 years was the vaccination programme,” he said.
    He added: “Older people would tell you that when they had ten children, only two or three were expected to grow up and that is certainly not our reality now and it is only so because we accepted a mandatory vaccination programme. You only have to look at what happened when people forgot this, as we started to see a resurgence of mumps and measles, diseases that we thought were gone for good. So that balance between personal choice and public health is the crux of the question.”

    Source: Nation

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