Although not out of the woods Barbadians were told based on the week over week numbers “we are in a better place”, however, we need to keep our guard up. We can do this people!
Prime Minister Mottley and Team Have Covid 19 Conversation with Barbadians
428 responses to “Prime Minister Mottley and Team Have Covid 19 Conversation with Barbadians”
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Saying not out of the woods is simple political rhetetoric
The numbers decline because of the govt slow and inabity to do massive testing similar to that done during the Prison spike
2000 numbers and a slow response gives a false and misleading reading to the public
Mass testing in higher numbers with a 24hr result wold give a true and exact number of where and how far barbados is
Meanwhile people hearing about lowering trends would relax and return to the same old as before
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Dr. Fauci Just Gave This Warning About COVID Vaccine Side Effects
Sarah CrowNearly six million Americans have received a dose of the COVID-19 vaccine thus far, with millions more eagerly awaiting the chance to get theirs. However, like any medication, the COVID vaccine has potential side effects, too. In a Jan. 7 interview, Anthony Fauci, MD, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), warned about one COVID vaccine side effect that’s been seen in a handful of individuals so far: severe allergic reactions.
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Reverting to the ABC nonesence again is pointless. If you ask any business person how sales are this month they will tell you things are way slower than last year, so both traffic and sales are down. the facts therefore dont reflect the need to return to any ABC. The only reason i can see we will go back to that is if we are not being told the whole story. I really hope the chamber of commerce have the backbone to convey this to the PM. Then again so as not to offend, they will probably go along with it.
Next thing is I heard the goverment doctor on the radio today saying there is no community spread, so let me ask Him one question?
If by your own admission today you have not found patient Zero and as a result have not been able to contact trace the infections back to the said patient Zero, then how in God’s name can you say there is no community spread? If patient Zero and all he infected up to the point where you were able to trace, are in fact living here are they not infected members of our community ? There is a break between those you traced and patient Zero and none of you can say definitely how may persons make up that untraced gap. Is it 10 people, 100 people or 1000 people? Truth is you don’t know and hence can’t say. So what is the reaction instead, you decide to go back to the alphabet nonesence. Wunna must be really feel all of we out here born under a rock! Then you come with a last ditch effort of defending your position by saying the WTO say community spread only occurs when you have lost track of being able to trace all infected cases. So wait what happen with us here then? We got a gap in the trace and nobody can say how many people make up this gap. By the way what does the CDC define community spread as?
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in toronto second month of lockdown, case keep rising,people not listening anymore, they hearing blah blah stay apart
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Don’t mind them, they are still testing to find connections between the officer from Hastings police station and all who he came in contact with, and whoever those people came in contact with, am sure that goes for most if not all the other cases, they’re not telling everything yet, see, am still giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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The govt more interested in doing damage control than being truthful
Mia starts a conversation about trend downwards and vaccination
Meanwhile the more pressing questions go unanswered as to how much has the virus been detected amongst the community
People are yawning as they walk past the PR conferences
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When are people going to understand the science and stop following the science.
Lockdowns don’t work against this virus. You have to treat people and manage as best as you can until it blows over.
Just like your grandmother would patiently wait for you to come back home to give you your licks when you run outside and laugh cause she can’t catch you and you come back when you think she will forget or tired, this virus is the same way. It just waiting for you to come home.
Doctors, treatment options are out there so stop waiting for some conglomerate to do your work, find and read the studies and figure cheap treatments out or was taxpayer money wasted on most of your educations.
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Heard Mottley speaking of what govt officials would be vaccinated but no mention of herself being vaccinated (unless she must) i wonder why
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Barbados cannot afford another lockdown. It will destroy the private business. It is deeply unjust that our lazy civil servants are now allowed to sleep at home again for months while unemployment and national debt explode.
We therefore urgently need a special sacrifice by civil servants. A real sacrifice, not BOSS. Our government should finally dismiss half of the civil servants without notice and cut the salaries of the rest by 50 percent. We can no longer afford the luxury of the state employing those who are not good enough for the private sector.
Blame the whole disaster on the civil servants OSA and Stuart hired to reduce unemployment. Emigration would have been better. Or devaluation.
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PCR TEST INVENTOR (and Nobel prize winner) KARY MULLIS BASHES FAUCI
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“Dr Sam starts from scratch and explains what is a Covid-19 case and unravels the web”.
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@John A
The ABC system is not ideal but the objective is to reduce crowd traffic during a period the probability of catching the virus is present in the country?
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Home / Top Featured Article / Psychiatric Hospital latest site of COVID-19 casesPsychiatric Hospital latest site of COVID-19 cases – by Emmanuel Joseph January 9, 2021
First, it was the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (QEH), now two staff members of the state-run Psychiatric Hospital have been placed in isolation after reportedly testing positive for the COVID-19 virus, Barbados TODAY has learnt.While Hospital Director David Leacock nor Minister of Health and Wellness Lieutenant Colonel Jeffrey Bostic or Acting Chief Medical Officer Dr Kenneth George could be reached for comment tonight, a source inside the Black Rock, St Michael mental health institution disclosed that the colleagues are currently in isolation as other staffers undergo testing and await results.
Pointing out that even as the hospital continues to implement strict COVID-19 protocols to try to prevent a spread of the virus, it appears that the two employees contracted the disease from individuals outside of the facility.
“Our nursing office as we speak…the main entrance…they had implemented the protocols from before, where the nurses sign in on the ward to minimize face-to-face contact in the nursing office. But apparently, the nursing office is being sanitized because one of the community health nurses has tested positive and was in the hospital instead of the office,” the source who preferred to remain anonymous said.
“We have a situation where the husband of an employee attended the bus crawl and she has been tested and is in quarantine and the area where he worked is closed,” Barbados TODAY has been informed.
“We have a supervisor from the kitchen…her daughter works at the QEH on the said ward where the staff had the COVID and she is also in quarantine,” the source stated, adding that the Black Rock hospital is “experiencing a bit of turbulence”
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The govt made a decision to.play with fire
Well plenty gasoline has been poured on to the fire
A question now remains and should be asked
Does govt have enough hoses available on hand to out those raging fires
The news ongoing seems to portray one of doubt
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COVID communication and credibility
Today’s Editorial
The matter of effective communication has long been a bulwark against those who seek to misinform and manipulate. But an effective communicator can also use his skills to convince an unsuspecting audience of an intended message, whether that message is true or false.
One only has to look at recent events in the capital of the United States to understand the double-edged sword that is communication.
Outgoing president Donald Trump, in an awkward and objectionable way, is an effective communicator who has used his skills to convince a sizeable portion of the American electorate to see the world through his abhorrent prism.
We make these statements of fact not to besmirch the efforts of any individual or group, but as an acknowledgement of the powerful effect of a communicator who knows how to get the message across to his target audience.
This is an important segue to an examination of our handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly the explosion of cases in the dying days of 2020 and in the New Year.
Our shock and worry at the rapid spread of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) have not yet subsided since the realization on Old Year’s Day that the island was significantly exposed and its citizens highly vulnerable to the viral illness despite all the assurances that like Olivia Pope, “It’s handled”.
Today, we learned during an extremely informative radio call-in programme that yes, Barbados was doing a fantastic job in controlling the spread of the virus over the past ten months.
We introduced protocols that were, for the most part, followed by the public. We secured needed personal protective equipment for our healthcare workers who are at risk on the front line. We also accessed thousands of testing kits from international institutions and some of our friends in the region to ensure we could adequately respond to the crisis.
But as world-renowned British virologist Dr. Brenden Larder, who has made Barbados his home for the past 20 years, pointed out today, the island has made a few miscalculations and communication errors. These, he argued, have made our current situation more difficult than it should have been.
Larder, is one of the world’s leading experts in the fields of HIV drug resistance and pharmacogenomics, his seminal work has been on resistance to the AIDS drug AZT while he worked as Head of Clinical Virology for global pharma company Glaxo Wellcome.
We learned today from Dr. Larder that he volunteered his vast expertise to the Government of Barbados in its COVID battle. According to the doctor, he is still waiting for a return call.
But there were some other takeaways from today’s discussion. Dr. Larder made the observation, in a most diplomatic way, that he was concerned about the “quality” of information reaching the public.
Some of those concerns centred around the classification of “community spread”, greater clarity on the “COVID clusters” and the interconnectedness between these clusters. Furthermore, the medical expert called for greater clarity on data he described as “sketchy”.
Offering his opinion on some next steps for the Barbados Government, Larder recommended immediate testing to uncover whether the highly infectious British COVID variant was circulating in Barbados.
If its presence is confirmed, then the national response would require an immediate adjustment. If it was not, then urgent steps, he argued, should be taken to shut down flights from the United Kingdom, as other countries have done, until a handle on the situation can be achieved in the UK.
Larder also advised that while the current vaccines are effective against the British variant of the disease, there is concern about their effectiveness against the South African variant.
Larder and the Barbados Association of Medical Practitioners (BAMP) have expressed concern regarding the level and quality of communication coming from Government, and it appears some people have now taken notice.
We are therefore pleased that Prime Minister Mia Mottley is now including BAMP as a special partner in the COVID fight. The BAMP president is now part of the special COVID Communications Team and we welcome this.
The fact that Prime Minister Mottley admitted that effective communication has been the achilles heel of the entire COVID-19 process is also a welcome step.
We, however, are forced to express our concern about assigning a deeply political figure in Ambassador Elizabeth Thompson to the communications team. She is an absolutely fantastic communicator but the COVID-19 battle, Prime Minister, has to be seen as apolitical.
We also seek a pledge that this newly formed Communications Team will be transparent, providing full and accurate information without the political filters. It is only through this, that the team will secure the credibility it requires from the Barbadian public. -
Mariposa you do not tirr writing dhite all day every day.You are worse than the overseas doom and gloomers hoping for the worse for Barbados.Then claiming you csre about the poor black man.The first thing you should be doing is praising the frontline workers like the doctors and the nurses for the tireless work they are doing.Instead you like the political nightwatchmen trying to play petty politics with a serious situation.Let the nightwatchman tell us her solutions.I mean they could not even get the shite off the south coast how the hell would they have handle this situation.I praises Mottly and her team every day for their leadership in this scenario.We are still here standing i am confident we will overcome this.Howevr i hope that all the irresponsible people on that bus crawl and the event on the West Coast and any others tourist or local feel the full weight of the law.
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It saddens me to see the country undergoing this mammoth health crisis
Especially at a time when the economy cannot support such a enormous bill
The many early calls to the PM to take heed and close birders to hot spots is what has barbados in this crisis
Not the bus crawl the bus crawl is just one of the many other catalyst that open up the spiket allowing the virus to make a mad dash on many Barbadian households -
@ Lorenzo January 9, 2021 8:17 AM
“Howevr i hope that all the irresponsible people on that bus crawl and the event on the West Coast and any others tourist or local feel the full weight of the law.”
Exactly!
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Still here not panicked. The definition of community spread is clear to me. This doctor may just be trying to promote himself.
Questions must be asked. But I am not worried. I maintain that the problem arose because of poor monitoring of the quarantine facilities. For that the government must take responsibility. The hotels too must take some responsibility. Those west coast whites must take some responsibility. Those bus crawlers, especially those who work at vulnerable health care facilities and the most vulnerable prison MUST TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
This government made one mistake. They did not anticipate how stupid and self-destructive some people are. Not the majority. Most of us were following protocol.
I went to Emerald City supermarket and the credit union branch at Six Rds during the period under investigation. Came home in a car with an Emerald City worker inside. Day 9 and no symptoms for myself and my son. We always follow the protocol.
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More doctors are coming to Barbados to assist in the COVID-19 fight.
Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, in an address to the nation yesterday evening from Ilaro Court, said chairman of Cabinet’s COVID-19 Sub-committee, Senator Dr Jerome Walcott, had been in discussions with several foreign governments the past couple of days.
“We have been in contact with the Cuban government and we have requested a number of additional doctors and specialists – two communicable disease specialists, two respiratory disease specialists, two intensive care specialists, two anaesthesiologists and a respiratory therapist.”
She added that four English-speaking lab technicians would be attached to the Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory for extra hands.
Committed to sending virologist
“Minister of Health [Jeffrey] Bostic has been in contact with the Pan American Health Organisation, who have committed to sending in short order a virologist to train persons to be able to ensure that we can provide respite for those who are working exceptionally long hours at the lab.”
The Prime Minister said the numbers were small in terms of qualified and trained personnel so they did not have the resources to “double up and triple up”.
The country already has more than 100 Cuban medical personnel who were brought in last year during the pandemic.
Mottley also revealed that Government purchased a mobile lab from the Chinese and it was just a matter of the logistics of getting it here.
It will be fully equipped with personnel and robotics, she said….(Quote)I see the Chinese are now using CoVid to get more Chinese in to the country. We need sound political leadership. Mottley has failed.
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@Donna
Support your comment. Quarantine facilities should be centralized and policed with non discretionary fines.
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New team on health issues
Barbados will soon have a dedicated health communications team to better inform the country about all matters related to the spread and treatment of COVID-19.
The team is being set up to ease some of the pressure off Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, Minister of Health Jeffrey Bostic, chairman of the Cabinet COVID-19 Sub-committee Senator Dr Jerome Walcott, and public health officials.
Ambassador to the United Nations (UN), former minister of health Liz Thompson, is being brought back to the island to be part of the team, along with president of the Barbados Association of Medical Practitioners, Dr Lynda Williams; communications and marketing specialist Tyson Henry, who is based in Dominica, and a fourth person who is being targeted, Mottley said during a national address from Ilaro Court yesterday.
The Prime Minister said the intention had been to invite Thompson back home from New York at the end of this month to fulfil another project, but the current COVID-19 environment had fast-tracked the need for her return. The former St James South Member of Parliament is expected on island by this weekend.
Thompson will be replaced as the Permanent Representative to the UN by Francois Jackman, the ambassador to China, who is based in Beijing.
“We accept that the communication
of the Government can be a little stronger and better on this issue, in particular from the Ministry of Health. This will allow us to focus on what we must execute. We are juggling a lot. The notion that Minister Bostic and I can come here, or Minister Walcott, and talk is going to be difficult,” Mottley said. “Part of the struggle of being a small country is that we do not have the depth of resources generally.”
(BA)Source: Nation
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Specialist doctors to join Covid-19 fight
More doctors are coming to Barbados to assist in the COVID-19 fight.
Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, in an address to the nation yesterday evening from Ilaro Court, said chairman of Cabinet’s COVID-19 Sub-committee, Senator Dr Jerome Walcott, had been in discussions with several foreign governments the past couple of days.
“We have been in contact with the Cuban government and we have requested a number of additional doctors and specialists – two communicable disease specialists, two respiratory disease specialists, two intensive care specialists, two anaesthesiologists and a respiratory therapist.”
She added that four English-speaking lab technicians would be attached to the Best-dos Santos Public Health Laboratory for extra hands.
Committed to sending virologist
“Minister of Health [Jeffrey] Bostic has been in contact with the Pan American Health Organisation, who have committed to sending in short order a virologist to train persons to be able to ensure that we can provide respite for those who are working exceptionally long hours at the lab.”
The Prime Minister said the numbers were small in terms of qualified and trained personnel so they did not have the resources to “double up and triple up”.
The country already has more than 100 Cuban medical personnel who were brought in last year during the pandemic.
Mottley also revealed that Government purchased a mobile lab from the Chinese and it was just a matter of the logistics of getting it here. It will be fully equipped with personnel and robotics, she said.Source: Nation
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When all is said and done these portocols have failed
No govt can regulate peoples emotions
All kinds of evidence has been shown that peoples emotions will dictate their own self interest
Reason why people hurt and maimed each other
The backlash from these portocols when told by people who came to barbados would give barbados a big black eye one that will be hard to recover
Mark my word
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More doctors coming
So what
Now the horse has bolted
Why did some one closed the stable gate
Now millions being spent to catch a mad run away horse
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This is an interesting side story coming out of Covid and quarantining. Finding ways to manage booty calls and sex trafficking especially out of Jamaica.
Remembering Myrie.
WOMAN WANTED
Sex worker skips island after West Coast threesome
Police and immigration officials have been looking for Jamaican Mikeala Jacas, who was sneaked into a West Coast hotel by two British tourists for a night of sex.
However, they have discovered that the 24-year-old sex worker is no longer in Barbados.
Saturday Sun investigations revealed that Jacas, who also goes by the name “Diamond”, was taken to Grantley Adams International Airport last Sunday by a man and placed on a flight to Jamaica.
Following a story which circulated yesterday that she went missing on August 21, 2012, from her Wickham Drive, Kingston 8, Jamaica home when she was only 15, police and immigration are now looking into the possibility that she is being trafficked.
Immigration records revealed that she came to Barbados on February 20 last year and got an extension until January 15, 2021. However, she left Barbados on January 3, shortly after the news circulated online about her tryst with British couple Andrew Luker and Julia Knightley on December 29.
A senior police official said yesterday: “The police have not been able to locate Mikeala at the address which she gave. We are now actively looking for her.”
The Saturday Sun called police at Grants Pen Police Station in Jamaica, which issued the missing person report, and a constable who answered the phone said they had already been contacted by their counterparts in Barbados.
“They are inquiring about the missing girl from 2012, but that was a long
time ago. We would now have to look for those files,” he said.
Made contact
The Daily Mail newspaper in London also reported yesterday that it had spoken to Jacas via telephone from Jamaica.
It quoted her as saying: “Yes, I was with them two, Andrew and Julia. Yes, we had a sex party and they paid me for my time with them. But I don’t want to bash them; they are nice people. It’s no one’s business what me do with me time and who I do it with.”
The problem, according to Barbadian police, is that Jacas scaled the wall at the hotel not once, but twice, and was caught by security as she attempted to leave the couple’s room. Luker and Knightley were supposed to be in quarantine awaiting the results of their COVID-19 tests.
They appeared in court on Thursday before Chief Magistrate Ian Weekes where they pleaded guilty to breaching COVID-19 protocols. They were fined $6 000 each.
It is understood that this matter is now under investigation by the police’s Human Trafficking Department. (MB)Source: Nation
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Once I agree with MARIPOSA, BARBADOS IN FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE and trying to catch up to Europe and North America COVID OUTBREAKS.
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Parroting politicians and their self-absorbed bullshit caused 5 deaths in US, continue listening to the sihite politicians spew at the risk of ending ya own lives. I’ve been telling yall repeatedly that the clowns keep twisting the definition of community spread to suit their various lowcrawling agendas…most people would’ve have forgotten what happened in New Rochelle, it looks like this doctor is not one of them with short memory syndrome.
this is what the virologist said:
“We learned today from Dr. Larder that he volunteered his vast expertise to the Government of Barbados in its COVID battle. According to the doctor, he is still waiting for a return call.
But there were some other takeaways from today’s discussion. Dr. Larder made the observation, in a most diplomatic way, that he was concerned about the “quality” of information reaching the public.
Some of those concerns centred around the classification of “community spread”, greater clarity on the “COVID clusters” and the interconnectedness between these clusters. Furthermore, the medical expert called for greater clarity on data he described as “sketchy”.
Offering his opinion on some next steps for the Barbados Government, Larder recommended immediate testing to uncover whether the highly infectious British COVID variant was circulating in Barbados.”this is what i posted this morning before reading the article:
WURA-War-on-UJanuary 9, 2021 7:17 AM
They are having problems with the feed they sell, after 3 weeks chickens refuse to grow and stay the size of or a little bigger than pigeons….by this time next year, most companies on the island would have sold their interests, am sure they can all see where this is headed, greedy fcukers had a long run, it’s time.
for those who don’t know, community spread is a term NOT DEVELOPED IN BARBADOS…the term was started when the jewish lawyer in New Rochelle who infected nearly the whole damn state and killed a bunch of people because he went to church, went about his business as usual, travelled by train to NYC while not knowing he was a superspreader, he even went into a coma for a good long time before he woke up and found out the extent of the damage his being infected cause.
The clowns in Barbados will try to twist the words to suit their lies, misdirection and misinformaton as usual, cause they’re yet to develop or create anything that doesn’t turn into instant shit. BTW, he was patient 0..
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They are having problems with the feed they sell, after 3 weeks chickens refuse to grow and stay the size of or a little bigger than pigeons….by this time next year, most companies on the island would have sold their interests, am sure they can all see where this is headed, greedy fcukers had a long run, it’s time.
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MAYBE THE PIGEON CHICKENS ON THE 2 x 3 ISLAND HAS THE NEW COVID STRAIN.
LOL
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Some of you are no different to the people that stormed the Capitol building in DC. Like I have said before, I hope when the fire start wunna can out it.
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Why doesnt mia offer barbados up for phase 3 testing for covid vaccines then you wouldnt get just 4.
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@ David
My point is Dr George was on my Tv telling me there is no community spread full stop. Then you have the business people saying that sales are way down on last year so far this year hence so would foot traffic be, why then push to go back to the ABC nonesence ? The facts we are being given do not warrant the action being taken. So someone needs to explain to us why the ABC nonesence is being reintroduced as their very own statements do not support it.
I ain’t no sheep and I don’t follow no shepherd regardless to the colour coat he got on.
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The #throwashadecrew on the job.
Meanwhile on a sunny Weekend Day, life goes on as it does everywhere.
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@John A
To clarify: they are investigating the connections. While they are not prepared to call community spread until the call is made decisions taken must factor worse case scenario.
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@ Enuff
It seems as though they wake up each and every morning with a specific, orchestrated mission, to focus on every and anything that’s negative in Barbados, even if they have to manipulate information to serve that particular purpose. I read a post in which one of them wrote, 500 people tested positive for COVID-19 in two days.
If, for example, the health authorities said 10 people tested positive for coronavirus, they will say that’s too many people and ‘government’s’ policies failed. If the count is 4, they’ll say the ‘government’ is falsifying reports.
I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t focus on what’s going wrong in Barbados, because that’s the only way we could attempt to ‘right the wrongs.’ But, if you actually ‘listen’ to those people, you would believe there isn’t anything positive happening on the island.
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@ David
Sorry David I disagree, decisions made must be based on current data. If not every time rain set up in hurricane season we would be told to leave work early and go put up shutters in case the worst happen.
If you want me to believe what you are saying then your actions must reflect the data you are offering. To go to the ABC nonesence is a knee jerk reaction not based on the data being presented
Sorry but can’t agree with you on this one.
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@ David
Sorry David I disagree, decisions made must be based on current data. If not every time rain set up in hurricane season we would be told to leave work early and go put up shutters in case the worst happen.
If you want me to believe what you are saying then your actions must reflect the data you are offering. To go to the ABC nonesence is a knee jerk reaction not based on the data being presented
Sorry but can’t agree with you on this one.
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YOU ARE RIGHT TO SPEAK UP AND NOT BE A SHEEP WHILST BEING TREATED LIKE A SCHOOL CHILD.
AGAIN I WILL REPEAT LIVE IN A CITY WITH SEVERAL MILLION PEOPLE, NO LOCK DOWN, NO CURFEW AND DEFINITELY NO ALPHABET SOUP.
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In our little city there is no transparency, seldom will you hear where the cases have come from what, or where to avoid just cases are up better hide. They have not interested in solving problem just hoping to keep cases down till vaccines get rolling. If its in the restaurants let us know if its in the grocery stores we will get deliveries, etc I may have been at some place and not signed in and could be spreading it unknowingly because I was not told a place where I was had infections. I hope barbados is more serious about stopping it
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Sporadic cases refers to a small number of cases (one or more) that are either imported or detected locally; clusters of cases refers to cases that are clustered in time, geographic location and or by common exposures; community transmission refers to larger outbreaks of local transmission that can be defined through different approaches, including big numbers of cases not linkable to transmission chains and multiple unrelated clusters in several areas.
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Lawson….as long as we can get the wealthy British and Canadian whoremongers to stop coming into the island with their big dollars looking for black bodies to roll around in a bed with, that should help stop the spread. The last 2 ended up buying a whole lot more than they bargained for and now are worldwide famous everywhere….. paying 12,000 dollars on top of what they paid for the pleasure is quite a big amount, they are lucky it wasn’t more.
so you know you have to be careful next time……we one know how ya love them strippers.🤣🤣😂😂
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the abc mathod was said to be going under discussion – NOT INTRODUCED (yet)
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“I hope when the fire start wunna can out it”
just say you aren’t feeling the flames, the fire started already and Mia is the one closer to the hear, were i her, i would throw your ass in too….ya like to enable and condone shit from long distance too much.
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@ David BU
We could also look at this from the point of view the health authorities are not ‘on top’ of the situation as yet, since they were recently confronted with a ‘super spread’ and are perhaps still in the process of conducting contact tracing and accumulating all the relevant information to deal with the issue.
We also have a situation where employees from government departments, banks, credit unions and various other business establishments that tested positive for COVID-19. And, we are also faced with the reality that people are not fully adhering to the protocols. People leaving quarantine centres; over crowding on PSVs, while some drivers conductors and passengers not wearing masks…. and the vehicles not being sanitized; social gatherings, are just a few examples of how the virus is spreading.
Additionally, ‘government’ admitted their methods of communicating information to the public needs to be re-examined and promised to rectify the situation.
I believe it is too soon for government to make any reasonable assessments and, as a result, reintroducing the ABC protocol is perhaps a precautionary measure. They’ve also sought the help of additional Cuba doctors and other medical experts.
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Demand and supply is like water running through a funnel. As long as you ensure the flow in is equal to the capacity of funnel there is no overflow. What happens when you try to tinker with it like with the ABC nonesence, is that the water looks for somewhere else to go.
So for example if I need toilet paper say and it’s not my day to shop i simply go to a small shop and buy it. Now what you have done is shift me from a larger controlled retailer who was taking my temperature and making sure I sanatised before entering, to a country shop that may not have a designated person at the door to ensure protocols were observed. So in essence what your abc foolishness has done is expose me to infection where I was not previously exposed.
Why do you think most countries did not attempt to obstruct access to consumers going to supermarkets etc? They knew that anytime this is done as in the case of my water and funnel scenario, those shoppers would then go to smaller less regulated places.
That is why i say if you want me to believe your data then let your actions reflect the said data you are offering me. If they don’t then i will simply ignore your data and draw my own conclusions. It’s that simple as I am neither a sheep or a trump loyalist.
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@ John 2
And that is why i voicing my disapproval from now! Lol
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@John A
That is fine we have the capacity to disagree and move on, we and the world are managing an unprecedented situation. There is no right or wrong answer. We have to make decisions and tweak as we go along.
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Waru you skin your knees on that hotel wall? lol, you know barbados and vegas are the only places you can pay for sex with chips so you dont have to be wealthy. You are right though people shouldn’t be coming down and putting locals at risk .I cancelled my usual trip this year even though every day I get emails from air canada ,west jet ,terra etc wanting me to go . Non essential travel should wait til a bulk of people are inoculated…. then we will see if that position you have become proficient in over the years will help you do the fosbury flop over the yacht club wall.
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IMO you need to drink some cold water/ coolaid.
Mia “got this”
She put herself/cabinet in a position that if there is serious spike in positive (local) today, she can introduce ABC foolishness and she prepared them in advance. If the trend continued down then she had the meeting with the partners and made he decision on consultation.
one way or another she cannot please everyone but she got herself covered with whatever decision is made. -
“So for example if I need toilet paper say and it’s not my day to shop i simply go to a small shop and buy it. Now what you have done is shift me from a larger controlled retailer who was taking my temperature and making sure I sanatised before entering, to a country shop that may not have a designated person at the door to ensure protocols were observed. So in essence what your abc foolishness has done is expose me to infection where I was not previously exposed”
Usually, I admire your reasoning, but here you are trying to make a 3-stroke when only a 2-stroke is possible.
If you decide to go on a shop-crawl, why should the government be held responsible for your lack of adherence to the protocols. You exposed yourself, and should take responsibility.
There will be some inconvenience but there is a need to keep to the protocols.
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I see this abc thing as doing the following
(1) Forcing people to shop responsibly. Instead of visiting the shop every two minutes, you make a list and go shopping when it is your turn(2) in a sense, it strengthens social distancing. Instead of running into every Tom, Dick and Harry in a shop seven days a week, you will only run into one of them on a certain day.
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