Finally the symbol of an oppressed colonial past was laid to rest. Nelson statue for years positioned at the top of Broad Street and lately in Heroes Square was removed by the Mia Mottley government on the International Day of Tolerance. History the blogmaster suspects will view this act- delayed though it was- kindly.
Lord Nelson Put to Rest
338 responses to “Lord Nelson Put to Rest”
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Truly a sick man! All day long you are consumed with hero worship for one mortal. Obsessed like a teenaged girl and her first live.
Trump is a loser and we no longer feel compelled to discuss him. Whatever damage he has done and will continue to do before January 20th will be easier to deal with knowing that his time is short.
It’s over! Done! Get over him!
We have.
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@ Donna.
Good point and this is a worthwhile discussion so let’s proceed.
What did the removal of Sadam’s statue do for the people in Iraq as of 2020? Are they better off today or worst off?
Two of the leaders we had that I admire the most were Errol Barrow and Tom Adams. Tom becuase he had vision and Barrow because he took us into independence and was truly a man of the people.
Barrows instructions were that no statue was ever to be erected of him. His family however conceded later to one. The point is a statue can only imprison your mind if you allow it to. If you look at the Bussa statue as i often do, you will notice he has broken shackles. This was not only supposed to be him breaking the physical shackle, but also freeing himself from the mental shackles of inferiority. We spend too much time looking back and not enough looking forward that is our problem.
Look now at the Jewish Holocaust where millions were enslaved and starved then gassed when they were deem useless. The Jews never forgot it but they moved on to become one of the most influential groups in New York and other parts of the world. I can speak to the jews in person as i was fortunate enough to of know an actual survivor of the camps. He went to New York with an old suitcase and today his family is a well kmown wealthy family there. He is dead now and up to his death still had the faded tattoo with his number on his hand. His family told him many times to get it removed but he refused saying “never let this family forget where it started.”
In closing we move on and stop looking back. We respect all monuments good and bad as they are reflections of our history. We do as the Antiguans and others have and instead and we make money off them from the said English visitors. Can you think of a better way of getting even than that?
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@JohnA
you pun fire today.
The onliest thing I cannot unnerstand, is why the Atlantis folk didn’t beg for it, pay to remove it ,and put it out somewhere along their path, as another promotion for their underwater tours? -
@ Northern
It has nothing to do about reality it’s about politicians playing to sentiment and looking for a distraction. Just like the same sex unions and the republic. Instead of focusing on the post covid economic reality they looking for side shows to distract the masses.
Hope dem find enough under the statue to pay the 40,000 unemployed hotel workers for the next next 18 months!
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I am sure that Miller, Hal, Crusoe, et al. will appreciate this vintage video clip.
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Althea, Darcus and Rhodan. Althea, now back in Trinidad with husband Eddie, is an examiner for the UWI. Both Darcus and Rhodan sadly are dead.
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My point stands and Nelson doesn’t. Done deal. Many of us are happy. Sorry if you are not. Nelson’s statue stood alone in its offense. Nothing left to be removed at any great cost.
No need for further discussion.
P.S. I was not imprisoned, just highly offended.
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Now you can walk up Broad Street in peace.
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A credit to the Barbadian peaceable way, that a crowd did not pull it down and throw it into the careenage.
Barbadians are generally very law process abiding. But in such a case, I would have readily understood where an exception would be made.
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Carson C CadoganNovember 20, 2020 1:28 AM
Now you can walk up Broad Street in peace.
With out your eyes being assailed by that Monstrosity.+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
So who walks up Broad Street these days?
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When was the last time you walked up Broad Street?
Now be honest!!!!
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John ANovember 19, 2020 2:10 PM
No, your logic does not stand scrutiny. Have the majority of Italians complained about the colosseum? I think not. Neither were they the slaves butchered in the arena.
Totally different scenario.
How about all of Lenin’s statues torn down in Russia? Mind you, Lenin was not a brute, his intentions were for the betterment of the people, even if the practice was incompatible with reality.
My logic is sound and if you do not understand it, I cannot help you to and I see no reason to try. As a grown man, you should really understand it by now.
There are many, I am sure, who totally understand it. It goes to the root of the point and my prior comments on empathy.
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So Crusoe
When was the last time you walked up Broad Street?
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The idiocy in still debating why the removal of a symbol of racism is a minus instead of a plus.. when it’s more important to debate the removal of the WHOLE RACIST, EXPLOITATIVE, OPPRESSIVE COLONIAL SLAVE SYSTEM…..that should be seen as the NEXT STEP….which would prevent foreign and local racists and thieves posing as business people in the fraud of a tourism product from CONTINUING THEIR UGLY TRADE….relieve employees from being discriminated against and continually paid low to NO SALARIES, while their NIS benefits are withheld from them…
..somehow the debaters are incapable of seeing the positives which this attempt of distracting the people that the government generated themselves, has presented……intelligent people would see the opportunity to further agitate and put more pressure on the Mia slick tricksters….to take it to its inescapable and logical conclusion.
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Silence!!
Guess no one walks up Broad Street these days!!
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Don’t know why anyone would want to believe anything colonizers and slave traders say, but that’s Black people for ya…they love to be killed off, enslaved and exploited…as long as the people look nothing like them, unless it’s a lying ass politician………. as soon as slave traders etc present themselves, they are ready to die or be exploited and reduced to poverty
/;/The Caribbean islands poisoned by a carcinogenic pesticide
By Tim Whewell
BBC News, MartiniquePublished16 hours ago
Ambroise Bertin had an operation for prostate cancer but still suffers from thyroid disease
image captionAmbroise Bertin had an operation for prostate cancer but still suffers from thyroid disease
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“First we were enslaved. Then we were poisoned.” That’s how many on Martinique see the history of their French Caribbean island that, to tourists, means sun, rum, and palm-fringed beaches. Slavery was abolished in 1848. But today the islanders are victims again – of a toxic pesticide called chlordecone that’s poisoned the soil and water and been linked to unusually high rates of prostate cancer.“They never told us it was dangerous,” Ambroise Bertin says. “So people were working, because they wanted the money. We didn’t have any instructions about what was, and wasn’t, good. That’s why a lot of people are poisoned.” He’s talking about chlordecone, a chemical in the form of a white powder that plantation workers were told to put under banana trees, to protect them from insects.
Ambroise did that job for many years. Later, he got prostate cancer, a disease that is commoner on Martinique and its sister French island of Guadeloupe than anywhere else in the world. And scientists blame chlordecone, a persistent organic pollutant related to DDT. It was authorised for use in the French West Indies long after its harmful effects became widely known.
“They used to tell us: don’t eat or drink anything while you’re putting it down,” Ambroise, now 70, remembers. But that’s the only clue he and other workers in Martinique’s banana plantations in the 1970s, 80s and early 90s had about the possible danger. Few if any were told to wear gloves or masks. Now, many have suffered cancer and other illnesses.
Banana plantation worker
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Chlordecone is an endocrine disrupter, meaning it can affect hormonal systems.” -
Wunna head still stuck up Nelson rear end
While wunna that far up check the bill Mia gonna hand the taxpayer for teking him down and giving him free room and board in the museum -
WURA-War-on-UNovember 20, 2020 1:44 PM
Doesn’t matter what colour you are … or gender.
Once you have a cervix, stomach or prostate you are at greater risk in Martinique than mainland France.
“These results demonstrate that Martinique tends to have the same cancer risk profile as France Mainland with, however, higher incidence rates for cervical, stomach and prostate cancer.”
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@WURA-War-on-U. What about the whole other part to that? Martinique which is to the Republic of France as Hawaii and Alaska are to the United States (a composite part of), always ask for local autonomy.
The Republic of France banned that chemical decades ago meanwhile the local Martinique authorities chose not to because it would affect their profitability on the island and kept using it. They didn’t want “Metropolitan France” in Paris telling them what to do on the island when it was banned in the mother country. Now the profits done ‘piss-out’ already and the chickens come home to roost as a health pandemic, it is France’s fault for not stripping them of their autonomy and imposing it on them for their own good? Is that really what they’re walking around telling the world now?In terms of general topic of Nelson, I predict people are going to claim something else giving them too much stress to cope. Perhaps having a “Queen Elizabeth Hospital” when Barbados becomes a republic and thus it needs to immediately be renamed to Bridgetown General Public Hospital (BGPH) and lead by a Board of the “Bridgetown Public Hospital Corporation” instead. Otherwise the stress will just overcome them.
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The authorities in Martinique are agents for france, don’t mind all the other rhetoric…ya should never believe agents for colonizers, that’s well known…i won’t believe not one person carrying a colonial title…they take on the roles of colonizers…and do utter shit, check Barbados et al….
to believe a word those liars say, you do so at your own risk..
something in the enviornment or food or whatever, along with banned chemicals is causing those high incidences of cancers….there are chemicals used in the Caribbean that are banned in those bigger countries, people have been complaining about them for years….so who is selling them and who is allowing them to enter the countries.?
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up here the real estate board figures that masterbedroom has racial connotations so the agents have to call it primarybedroom this world is getting insane. So now jeffrey toobin was primarybating i guess.
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I walked up Broad Street three weeks ago. There were many others doing the same.
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thats a long time between clients.
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DonnaNovember 19, 2020 2:26 PM
If statues mean nothing then why do we erect them?
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It’s simple, it is because we don’t understand that they mean nothing!!
It is simple, real real simple.
Find me five statues in Barbados erected before Nelson!!
Find me one if five is too many!!
If you can’t then ask yourself the question again and see if you can answer it.
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Mia keep pissing in wunna RH eyes and wunna keep.patting mia on the back asking for more
The statue down at a price of over 20thousands dollars plus a going away ceremony
Wunna dont see nothing wrong with that
Plus more monies needed to ware house the old criminal in a barbados museum
Wunna dont see nothing wrong with that
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@ Lawson
What about the gender neutral bathrooms that springing up all over Europe? For those born male that want to be female or those born female that want to be male now they covered!
Lord I can’t go to the parts Store now and ask for a slave cylinder for my car no more then? What I got to ask for now must be an assistant clutch cylinder!
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It is hoped that the recent relocation of the Nelson statue and its plinth from the heart of Bridgetown would not attract possible sanctions from the UNESCO brigade responsible for the monitoring of the upkeep of the Bridgetown area which was awarded the much sought after designation of “World Heritage Site”.
A status enviously used as a marketing ‘brand differentiation’ asset especially in those tourism-dependent destinations where places, buildings and things of historic significance tend to add some interest and attraction to the visitor’s menu other than the routine sea sand and sun.
The removal of artefacts and demolition of structures can be considered as major alterations to a ‘designated’ World Heritage site.
One can only hope the final decision to remove that unique piece of art predating its London-based Trafalgar Square manifestation- although it might have been popular in the vote-catching political circus of appeasement of vested interest groups- was informed by the prior advice sought from and support of the UNESCO heritage site quality controllers.
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@ Mariposa
All of that happened because the cowards after all de long talk , refused to throw the piece of scrap iron into the Careenage! They still afraid of massa.
The National Trust only protects colonial images. Why didn’t it fight to protect all those properties on Bay Street that belong to Black families and Black business people. Why didn’t they fight to protect all the quaint little churches in the villages of yesteryear? What about all those beautiful chattel houses with exquisite verandas etc?
Black people in your country are still afraid to call out whites but they have no problem cussing Fruendel Stuart, Mia Mottley, a Chief Justice .They will go on a political platform and infer that any idiot can hold a bat and they only want pedigreed orators like Obama and Dr. King in parliament.
In the meantime the white hoteliers telling them pay they must be paid to open ; not one pretty word or degree from Cave Hill can get them to properly represent their Black brothers and sisters ..
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@Miller. Read about Rachel Pringle. She was born a slave, was bonded out, and she then owned slaves.
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@WURA-War-on-U. You have to review who signed for the extension on the use of the chemical “Chlordecone” in Martinique.
https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20191126-five-questions-about-chlordecone-pesticide-use-french-antilles
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jul/13/france-pesticide-health-scandal-chlordecone#:~:text=The%20product%20was%20banned%20in,in%20the%20US%20since%201976.&text=Only%20in%202004%20was%20allowance,in%20France%27s%20Environmental%20Health%20Plan.So it sounds like the E.U. should have overruled Martinique & Guadeloupe even if they claim not being able to use the toxin could have lead to job losses.
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William Skinner. Why didn’t the National Trust “… fight to protect all those properties on Bay Street that belong to Black families and Black business people. Why didn’t they fight to protect all the quaint little churches in the villages of yesteryear? What about all those beautiful chattel houses with exquisite verandas etc?
Ummm. Protect it from whom? The black controlled government of Barbados?
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“So it sounds like the E.U. should have overruled Martinique & Guadeloupe even if they claim not being able to use the toxin could have lead to job losses.”
the limited intellect and corrupt will always put job losses before health, put racism and slavery before freedom and wealth creation for the Black majority, as is happening in Barbados….those are the mis/uneducated placed to lead populations.
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“The National Trust only protects colonial images. Why didn’t it fight to protect all those properties on Bay Street that belong to Black families and Black business people. Why didn’t they fight to protect all the quaint little churches in the villages of yesteryear? What about all those beautiful chattel houses with exquisite verandas etc?”
disgusting racists head the national trust, the head piece of shit is always gushing about St. Nicholas Abby, boasting because he knows and most don’t, that it was the breeding farm for African slaves, the nasty, disgusting trash that he is..
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I cannot speak to bay street but can about churches, In the early 70s I bought one up here from the Pentecostal people who had bought it from the Methodists and turned it into a really cool house. What was happening with both denominations at different times was the congregations were dwindling and they decided to centralize areas to keep the church afloat. They would pick a church in the middle of a district and sell off the ones in areas nearby reducing costs. Up here we take some of those older buildings that represent the way people lived and move them to an area so people can see a functioning town of the past like williamstown in the states, upper canada village in ontario .I am sure some buildings have been preserved in barbados but to be fair wood breaks down, the mortar of the time is lacking. and it takes a lot of maintenance. There is always problems every time I would plant a garden I was always pulling up a ribcage or skull.
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I take no questions or suggestions from the prince of lies. I do no more than scan your posts and do not click on your links. Furthermore I do not talk to you but at you. You are evil.
But the son of a bitch is down and he is not going back up.
You and others can continue to waste time crying over spilt milk.
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The only direction the devil can point your mind in is the road that leads to hell.
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@ Caribdigita November 21, 2020 12:31 AM
“Read about Rachel Pringle. She was born a slave, was bonded out, and she then owned slaves.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++That is well-known about the ‘mixed-up’ mulatto Madam Polgren. But that did not stop her from whoring at a very young age and making a fortune from the oldest trade in the world called selling pussycat(s) to those British soldiers and sailors not having easy access to the wenches on the plantations.
Barbados benefited tremendously from her ‘booming’ enterprising activities and she is indeed deserving of a pride of place in that ‘old’ city which the same Lord Admiral Nelson (a contemporary of the same “hotelier” Madam) described as the ‘Hellhole’ of the West Indies.
How about changing the name of the Nelson Street to the Rachel Pringle ‘Boulevard’ as part of the much needed gentrification of Bridgetown?
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rachel pringle blvd you could have erect statues of politicians around her………sorry you could erect statues of politicians with a statue of her whipping them.
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😃I am against erecting a statue for Rachel Pringle, but if you do here are the words for the plaque
“She was always a giver. Many erections during her life and one gigantic and lasting erection in death.”😃
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To suggest that Nelson is not going back up is not one hundred per cent accurate. Nelson will be back up in the Barbados museum. Tourists and school children will go there and he will be promoted as a savior of Barbados. This is the same thing that the white liars and some Black apologists were saying forever.
In other words the piece of iron, that should be in the Careenage has been moved to more comfortable surroundings and will now be seen by more tourists and our school children will still be brainwashed.
To paraphrase the pastors: “ Nelson will rise in glory with the help of a pack of weak Black leaders , who did not have the guts to throw the piece of junk into
the Careenage. It was nothing more than theatre and a well executed blow job on the populace.
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William…they even tried to make tearing down a symbol of slavery an international even on African Diaspora Channel…but that one got completely blown out of the water, becasue they are all known to be corrupt, liars, and enablers of racism and racist symbols against their own people….so they had to settle for the small time pagentry and still got laughed at..
they don’t even care about their disrepect against the black population, against their own ancestors, but will still tell lies and brainwash the island’s children with their evil ways….
they are stains on the earth.
BTW..did you see the utter shite Grenville wrote on FB about activists this and activists that, it’s a good thing the people on the island are not dumb enuff to entertain that level of crazy…he was for the most part ignored but someone did tell him off…..they just couldn’t take the shite that most of us dismissed as ramblings of an idiot..
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I thought it would be a removal and paid no attention to where it would go.
When I saw that it became a ceremony, I tuned out.
They did thecdifficult task of pleasing those who were for removal and those who were for keeping it.TheO’s conclusion: Those when were for removal got screwed.
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Nelson will NOT be displayed as a hero for Barbadians. His story will be placed in context.
Next!
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I am really beginning to wonder about those who value my “balanced” opinions while seemingly going off at the deep end.
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Trevor Marshall the historian who has been most vocal about moving Nelson statue and has written voluminously on the matter has explained that to destroy the statue would lead to Barbados losing the world heritage designation. It is no accident a decision was made to relocate the statue to the museum which is located in the geography of the designation. Some of the people here just like to spout uninformed nonsense.
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DonnaNovember 21, 2020 2:01 PM
Nelson will NOT be displayed as a hero for Barbadians. His story will be placed in context.
Next!
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So how are the 30 zeroes going to get over the problem that the plaque on the plinth clearly names him as a HERO!!
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Nelson was the “PRESERVER OF THE BRITISH WEST INDIES”
… not lickle Barbados!!
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Monumental Stupidity … for the whole world to laff at.
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Here is a lickle game for the children on here to play.
The blogmaster invites you to join the discussion.