2020 St. George North By-Election National Debate

The decision to have a national TV debate between the candidates contesting the St. George North constituency seat has been mired in controversy from the beginning. The result is that of the six candidates registered to contest the seat made vacant by the ‘retired out’ Gline Clarke, only candidates Toni Moore (BLP), Grenville Phillips (Solutions Barbados) and Alex Mitchell (BFP) are the three left standing. The other candidates have offered excuses for not participating, the blogmaster suspects the real reason is that there is a fear to speak to the issues publicly in an independent setting.

It is ironic that the current week has seen Barbados experiencing heavy rains which must be negatively affecting house to house and platform campaigning. What an opportunity tonight’s debate offers to convey respective party messages to SGN residents while in the comfort of their homes.

#bigworks #anyidiotcanplaycricket

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  • “The children were instructed to shout for Moore!

    Seems like it is not only Alex Mitchell with a screw loose.

    Our children being used as political props!”

    let the yardfowls believe people are going to sit quietly by and allow the unethical immoral criminals in the parliament to turn another generation off young people into empty political shells like enuff, lorenza and all the other useless grain pickers polluting BU…..

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  • WURA,

    You are telling me that white people have the gall to demand that we set up a paralell site to honour colonial history????

    So….two Barbadoses. History celebrated from two perspectives – slavers and enslaved? With slavers given equal honours????

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  • Donna…everyone has been waiting since yesterday for the wretched obese minority to answer the question, she is yet to return…..la basura de Babade…they believe Black people owe them something, i would STARVE each and every one of them out..

    This is a way of life in Barbados’ parliament, conflict of interest and corruption goes on unpunished and rewarded with a colonial slave title…in the real world traitors pay for these crimes against their people and country….it’s called ORGANIZED CRIME…

    “The Commission on Human Rights and Administrative Justice (CHRAJ) has found the suspended Chief Executive Officer of the Public Procurement Authority (PPA), Adjenim Boateng Adjei, guilty of conflict of interest.

    This was contained in a report released by the anti-graft body on October 27, 2020, and sighted by citinewsroom.com.

    Mr. Adjei was investigated by CHRAJ for corruption and conflict of interest after he was accused of sidestepping procurement procedures for personal gains.

    He was captured in an investigative piece put together by freelance journalist, Manasseh Awuni Azure in 2019.

    He was subsequently suspended by the President in August 2019”

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  • “With slavers given equal honours????”

    PAID FOR by the descendants of the ENSLAVED …again…… and don’t think for one moment that the TRAITORS in the parliament won’t consider it and see how much of the money they can siphon off for themselves as usual too….

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  • Remember no invitation was offered to Alex Mitchell initially? But if Mitchell can post on BU and is a candidate in the by-election, why stop him from debating? At least be prepared and issue yuh disclaimer early, after all the man has been saying he owns all of Bdos years now. I tuned in heard Grenville mentioned human and monkey tiefin as the biggest threat to agriculture and suggested planting fruit trees as the answer. I immediately switched channels. I can just imagine if Big Works took part.🤣🤣🤣

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  • @enuff

    You avoided commenting on the school vi? You have to admit it was an error in judgement by the ‘big works’ team?

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  • Critical Analyzer

    It would be nice if some intrepid wannabe reporter when through the whole debate and listed the questions and bullet pointed the debaters responses.

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  • Yardfowls have no shame, they are ignorant and attention seeking….and would never care about Black children, they would seek to blame them instead for what 3 backward clowns, a PM, an AG and don’t even know what the hell Moore is, but she is a deceitful liar and pretender for sure…

    wicked government ministers and their wannabe minority slave masters along with their imps and pimps TIEFING from the treasury and pension fund ARE THE BIGGEST THREATS TO BLACK PEOPLE ON THE ISLAND.

    big photo op today for drawing down another 90 MILLION dollar tranche from IMF that the UNBORN will have to repay….big fanfair, am surprised they did not throw a big party..

    … dumb Enuff must be celebrating…. look we got another loan, island is punching above weight, IMF said we are doing well because they are getting their money while the PEOPLE SUFFER……..jackasses…

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  • I did not watch and your comments have me confused.
    How did the debate go?
    Did they control the mic like they did in the second US debate?
    Was the debate directed towards SGN?
    Was there a winner or did SGN lose?
    Did we learn anything new?
    Should there be more debates? so nice we went for it twice.

    Forget it, I will just read what Lorenzo wrote

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  • Hope Mia tells barbadians sooner rather than later what policies or plans govt have prepared or set aside to repay the billions in IMF loans
    These gimme gimme loans are part of years of reasons why bajans are suffering
    Govt under OSA took it for granted that tourist would be the supply source forever and ever which will keep barbados economy afloat
    911 said no
    The.global oil crisis said No
    The 2008 global financial melt down said Not gonna happen
    COVID still in the drivers seat screaming Hell No
    Yet govt insist on steering the barbados economy on the same downward trajectory of borrowing without having a sustainable plan of repayment
    Barbadians must plan ahead for themselves and seek a path by which they can rescue themselves against the raging tide of more austerity from govt .

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  • Mitchell: Sabotage attempts won’t stop me
    By Barry Alleyne barryalleyne@nationnews.com
    Alex Mitchell isn’t going anywhere although he says people may be attempting to sabotage his contesting the St George North by-election.
    The president of the Bajan Free Party is standing firm with his decision to still contest the November 11 by-election in St George North even though a media story about a brush he had with the United States’ criminal justice system back in 2011 was heavily circulated on social media platforms on Thursday night.
    The story about him being charged with kidnapping in the United States (US) came back into the public domain on the same night he appeared in the live political by-election debate carried on the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) and was trending heavily on social media yesterday.
    Here to stay
    “I’m here to stay. People may be attempting to sabotage my candidacy, but I’m not going anywhere. I was in the Marine Corps for 20 years. When I’m challenged, I moved forward, not retreat or surrender,” Mitchell told the Saturday Sun in an interview yesterday.
    According to Mitchell, he has never hidden his legal problems in the US from 11 years ago with the people he has encountered while campaigning in St George North the past few weeks.
    “I have absolutely nothing to hide. The Bajan Free Party is all about transparency, so I can’t be a hypocrite now. The Bajan Free Party is all about trying to expose corruption in Barbados. That’s why I feel I’m the best man for the job,” Mitchell said. “All of the charges were dismissed because it was later determined that I was going into my own property and had broken into my house,” he said about his legal matter.
    He said while the news about his legal issue could be new to some Barbadians, he was in no way surprised it had resurfaced a few days before polling day. “I don’t believe there such a thing called bad publicity. This news has been out there for years now, and that hasn’t’ stopped me. I welcome people talking about it. It allows people to realise what I’ve been through and where I’m coming from.” The Free Party boss said being racially profiled in America makes him a stronger candidate in Barbadian politics.
    Legal troubles
    “None of the other political parties brought out the information about my legal troubles before, so not even my opponents are worried about that. It has come up before, and it will probably come up again,” Mitchell said, noting the story had previously appeared on platforms Barbados Free Press and Bajan Underground.
    “People may be trying to sabotage me, but it’s not hurting. It’s actually helping. That is giving me more publicity, and making me more popular.” Mitchell revealed that last week he was denied permission to use a loudspeaker while out canvassing in St George North, and that has only made him more resolute in taking his message to the constituents of St George North.
    “What I’m going through will make me a stronger candidate. I’ve fought in wars while I was a marine. This is nothing compared to that,” he said about being involved in local politics.

    Source: Nation

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  • CBC says sorry for some debate comments
    The island’s lone television station, the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation (CBC), yesterday apologised for some comments made during a debate between contestants of the St George North byelection which was carried live on Thursday night.
    The debate featured the Barbados Labour Party’s Toni Moore; president of Solutions Barbados, Grenville Phillips II; and leader of the Bajan Free Party, Alex Mitchell.
    On numerous occasions during the two-hour debate, producers were forced to mute the words of Mitchell, who was outspoken about certain land deals he claimed were made in Barbados.
    “The Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation takes this opportunity to apologise for any untruthful, offensive and misguided comments that may have been broadcast during last night’s live St George North debate that was held at the Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre,” CBC said in its media statement released yesterday.
    Participants were pre-warned
    “The Corporation recognised that in the course of a by-election, a national political event, that commentary may not always conform to good taste and took precautions to avoid the besmirching of people’s reputation.”
    CBC also said that participants had been prewarned about what would be considered in good taste.
    “Prior to the start of the debate, the candidates were advised by the moderator that they should not make statements that could be viewed as derogatory or injurious to any individuals’
    character. This was reinforced by the Corporation’s legal advisor and senior management during the break to deprecate the earlier statements that may have escaped the protocols put in place to prevent them from being aired,” CBC said.
    The station said its legal advisor and CBC management warned one of the candidates specifically about making offensive remarks and insisted that there be no more comments or statements that could be deemed objectionable.
    “If our efforts failed to contain all such offensive statements, we sincerely regret this as the views expressed do not in any way reflect the opinion of the Corporation,” the statement concluded.
    The by-election for St George North will be held on November 11. (BA/PR)

    Source: Nation

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  • The debate did nothing for the barbados economy
    Right now what is happening in the barbados economy is govt having a plan set on more uncontrollable borrowing which would plunge barbadians households into years of poverty
    The pied piper IMF brought a koolaid pkg known as loans which govt will not refuse
    Yet as of now govt has not set a sustainable way forward for repaying the loans

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  • @Mariposa 6:39
    That was well delivered.
    You started the day well.
    You go girl. 🙂

    Have a great day, Barbados

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  • It pains me to write this.

    I am disappointed with PLT’s contribution on this matter. 👎

    For a man who is thoughtful and very articulate, his decision to provide only half of the story is shameful. His loss of words in providing the second half of the story stunned me. He loudly proclaimed the innocence of Charles Herbert before that matter was fully ventilated, but here where he need only states the complete facts, he held his tongue.

    How should I measure such a man? Should it be on the man is not the magnitude of his knowledge, or the volume of his contributions? Should I ignore what is in essence half-truths?

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @TheOGazerts October 31, 2020 6:25 AM
    The debate only proved what we already know

    1) Bajans too love a scandal. After the apology for the lapses in early moderation, nothing more should have been said in the media. Everyone knows Mitchell has a serious axe to grind. He made some good points like all the other debaters and we all know he has no tact.

    2) All we get from current and aspiring MPs is warmed over soup filled with nothing but promises of what they will do when they get into power. Once in they will find all sorts of excuses for why their promises were not kept.

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  • The debate was juvenile and silly, but the subsequent behaviour of CBC is legally questionable and Mr Mitchell should seek good legal advice.
    He was invited to take part in the debate because he is a legitimate candidate; he took part and said what he said as part of his ‘pitch’. I am not a lawyer, but the apology, or what passes as an apology from CBC, can be interpreted under the Representation of the People’s Act as an unwarranted and biased intervention in the campaign.
    It can be interpreted as telling voters that what Mr Mitchell had to say were untruths, illegal and/or irresponsible and, therefore, he was unfit (or in the jargon, a fit and proper person) to be a member of parliament.
    @Mr Mitchell, talk to a good lawyer, or at least someone who knows the law ie Caswell.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    One last point
    3) A divided house cannot prosper. As long as these third parties refuse to either merge or dissolve so only one third party is left, they will continue wasting their money campaigning to lose their deposit.

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  • David
    What school vi? Tell the BU intelligentsia stop double and triple counting one loan.

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  • Nonsense…(Quote) Is that an argument, the best you can do?

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  • Looks like Fowl Slave Enuff is LOSING TOUCH WITH REALITY……that is probably the 3rd or 4th TRANCHE DRAWN DOWN FROM IMF…all of which has to be REPAID by future generations…..

    Does any of this sound familiar to anyone, all these corrupt FRAUDS seem to use the same playbook of tricks to rob the people and stay in small island power…..and everyone want this thieving pretenders and SELLOUTS GONE..

    “The people have their own eyes and can see what is going on, the rush to repair roads, paint buildings, to give money for whatever cause, all that lumber, cement and galvanize delivered to the supporters. Nothing for four years then a sudden gush.

    People have had enough, they see how things work now, they watched and listened to the Yugge Farrell affairs. They have suffered not just undrivable roads, but un-walkable roads: no work or employment, small wages with no prospects. Wage slavery and mental slavery, whilst the ruling dynastical family ride in big cars wear expensive clothes. Travel around the world at a whim. Own the jobs, police, and judiciary, control the finances. Under the ULP administration, people see tame contactors getting contracts unjustly while others like the Balcomes are punished for speaking out. Whole families and their workforces destroyed Bigger Bigs, the De Freitas’s, and so many more. Communist-style unjust grabbing of people’s property, it is all happening, and we are expected not to see it, or to mention it.

    Well, it is over comrade, we want you to leave government, take your family and dynasty with you, and whilst you are at it take your unelectable cousin with you as well.”

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  • Of course CBC apologized, someone remembered when Noel Lynch received a bit of money from VOB when Loveridge said a few unkind words about him on a call in show. CBC is trying not to add to COW’s pocket change.

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  • What does TRANCHE infer? Stupse! Go find a new conspiracy to trumpet.

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  • Critical Analyzer

    @Hal Austin October 31, 2020 8:39 AM

    Give us a break Hal. This is a 2 x 4 piece of rock, not England. This level of televised debate being available on the internet for anyone to easily watch later is new. I see this as a dry run for next election so we might as well get the format right now before we really embarrass ourselves.

    I liked the format, structured questions followed by questions from the public watching the debate. The improvements I would make are:
    1) The moderator also state the moderation rules at the start.
    2) A submission process for questions from the public to be truly randomly selected and read during the public questions segment.

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  • “I am disappointed with PLT’s contribution on this matter. ”

    Theo …if you are referring to the link regarding Alex, it’s clear PLT did not have the details nor the outcome, i saw the story posted here a couple times, but that was the first time i read it, don’t think anyone really dug deep, some just like the salacioius surface info, but had they done so, would have found out that he was arrested for breaking into his own house and the case was dismissed…don’t know about any kidnapping especially if the child is also his….lol..

    Lorenzo is an idiot yardfowl who am sure is HIDING OUT THIS MORNING…ain’t got no shame, but just feeling STUPID….after making a proper ass of himself for thousands of people to see and have a good laugh, give him a couple days to forget and watch him come back with the same old fowl shit…

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  • You can only libel someone if what you have said is untrue. Williams will be taking as much of a chance, as Mitchell, were he to sue.
    Libel law 101: in criminal cases, it is for the prosecutor to prove the accused is guilty; in libel it is for the plaintiff to prove what was said was untrue. Thus the old saying,see you in court.
    What Barbadians should do is if anyone sues Mitchell to crowd-fund his defence. If journalists were to be intimidated by the size of someone’s wallet then the rich would literally get away with murder. Good journalists do not blink first.

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  • Fowl Slave…it does not matter that it’s part of ONE LOAN….are yall going to PAY IT BACK ALL AT ONCE….YA CAN’T EVEN PAY THE GODDAMN INTEREST…it will be paid PIECEMEAL for years on end……in increments of SEVERAL PAYMENTS…just as ya getting several separate loans….in INCREMENTS…all with added interest THAT ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE…ya only pretend to be this big corporate person, shitehound like you can’t even remember WHAT YA BOASTED ABOUT…a couple months ago, but we will catch ya again…

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  • Size of the rock is increasing from a 2×3 to a 2X4. Hopefully, it does not exceed 21×14.
    Difficult to find out what are our thought on England as some routinely point out its faillings. However, “his is a 2 x 4 piece of rock, not England. ” tell me it has us beaten on one thing>

    Nonsense, may be too heavy a reply.
    Not a legal eagle, but even a non-lawyer like me thinks it would not be a good case to pursue.
    However, I understand the position and steps taken by CBC, but one must admit that its CYA approach does not help the candidate’s message.

    I respectfully disagree with both gentlemen.

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  • Barbados’ frauds hold a different view about libel laws, their backward ignorant idea is if ya tell the TRUTH they will sue you, but if it’s a lie, they leave you alone….ignorance and wickedness….

    they cannot be allowed to use Elizabeth’s system to do further damage to the population….they’ve already started openly exploiting innocent children on video, people who are viewing it are APPALLED THAT THE prime minister and attorney general were orchestrating and directing that FORM OF EXPLOITATION on children who know nothing about politics and should’nt because they are children and are be allowed to grow as children, not as indoctrinated hideous yardfowls……and the likes of Fowl Slave Enuff and idiot Lorezeno are ok with all of that, but they should volunteer their children and grandchildren to be abused like that….

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  • How many times did Mitchell admit he did not have the evidence. Some of you like to bray like the proverbial jackass.

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  • Spoken like the crazy loony she is.You need a breah jackass before you run David BU blog into trouble.If you have evidence of this wrongdoing by lawyers, politicians ete i challenge you to place your real name behind these stories you have been running for eight or ten yeard now.As your pal says it getting boring, same script same warm over stale soup.Go get an pyscological evaluation crazy looney.

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  • “I am disappointed with PLT’s contribution on this matter. ”

    @ WARU
    One of the few times I agree with you. An absolutely disgraceful attempt to smear the man by posting a fake news story from an American newspaper.

    PLT boasts on BU all the time that he is part of the Bajan Bourgeoisie so we ought not be surprised at this behaviour.

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  • “Not a legal eagle, but even a non-lawyer like me thinks it would not be a good case to pursue.”

    you don’t have to be a lawyer to know and they don’t care that it is a noncase regarding libel, they all know Alex has ALL THE EVIDENCE and so does the police, all the lawyers in the parliament and bar association know that Cow is a tief, most of them help him rob the elderly, but yet they will still take up a fraudulent libel case against Alex or anyone else, while knowing that they ALL STOLE THOSE ESTATES….

    that’s the main reason people are EXPOSING ALL OF THEM WORLDWIDE…because it’s well known what they do…and they are not to go into any other country and continue that evil lowclass level of criminality..

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  • @ Theo

    Forget the size of the island, why do you think it will not be a good case to pursue on the part of Mr Mitchell? I accept, like me, you are not a lawyer.It is your reasoning I am interested in.

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  • “How many times did Mitchell admit he did not have the evidence.”

    have you spoken to him recently, do you know if he now has it…so now who is braying….

    and the fowl lorenzo… comes out to grab at straws…

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  • Put up or shut to rh up.

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  • Theo…that’s another thing with the THIEVES IN BARBADOS, they always believe that NO EVIDENCE can ever be found to put a ROPE AROUND THEIR CROOKED NECKS….they ALWAYS believe that they covered their tracks completely until they find out THAT THEY DIDN’T .

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  • Govt continues to pile on debt from the hands of the IMF
    The debates only bodes well to expose govt dishonest practices which lays hidden in the elitist belly. Nothing would change those practices as these monsters are the movers and shakers of the barbados economy
    The very spectacle of marches that served their only purpose fooling the vulnerable that barbados with a govt change would once again be punching against its weight
    Well if truth be told the only weight to be punched into a sense of balance is the weight of debt which govt has placed in the necks of barbadians leaving them helpless and defenseless
    Once again the pied piper has shown up on Barbadian door steps bringing gifts of gold frankincense and myrrh which carries a heavy price
    Buyer beware

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  • @ Mariposa

    The DLP’s watch on how this government is abusing the economy is disappointing. We urgently need a whole of government accounting system in which every liability is accounted for.
    It is not in the interest of a dubious government to expose its own fault lines, but the opposition parties and independent academics must do so.
    Every loan, every guarantee, every liability owned by this government must be listed since they play fast and loose. I have given up on the media.

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  • “Put up or shut to rh up”

    am not the one to put up, ya got it twisted….if they ever develop the balls to tief anything from me or mine outside of the very basic that i won’t miss….EVERYONE WILL KNOW BECAUSE I WILL NOT ONLY BE BRING EVIDENCE BUT OTHER THINGS FOR THEIR SLIMY ASSES….so ya may want to ask Alex to send you evidence, am sure i saw him posting things here for years on end…..

    .as a matter of fact, i have heard the accusations more than once, never saw it personally, but more than one person has complained that they even find corrupt, bribetaking judges to GIVE FALSE JUDGEMENTS in cases that should be THROWN OUT…or settled…..apparently there is no shortage of evil judges on the supreme court bench…….if i personally come across any such lowcrawling ACTIVITIES i will be sure to LET THE WHOLE WORLD KNOW…

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  • Hal,
    My comment was not based on any legal knowledge. I stated that at the onset.

    Even if what was said was 100% true and there was evidence, the law of the land is slow and is slanted towards those (organizations/people ) with money.

    I think there was sense in your argument, but given all the parties involved, a lawyer representing the gentleman could take a long time to get into the courts and see a penny/win. Playing with a marked and stacked debt.

    Let me change my words as it was a legal phrase… “not a good case” should be “not a good cause”.

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  • @enuff

    Entering an IMF program cum restructuring has its detractors on BU, the arguments they present will not change.

    The bottomline is how long will it take for the tourism sector to rebound to a level that there is space to work. The government seems to be pinning its economic assumptions on some kind of a rebound. Some here disagree. Is there a cut-off where the government will reevaluate and go to a plan B? So far we have not identified another sector to fill the GDP hole vacated by tourism and to a lesser extent international business given the nexus. For a small open economy we are in a bad position, to John A’s point, managing expense and growing a culture of buy local, fanning home grown ideas/projects is critical to enticing a new way of thinking and doing business.

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  • @Theo

    I accept you are not a lawyer. But an injunction by Mr Mitchell, barring them from repeating the apology will suffice, give the date of the by-election. I think he should.
    It will also stop the wider media from sidelining him during the campaign, wealth and the gridlock in the court system not withstanding. If he does not he will be treated as a maverick.

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  • And am not sure that yall realize how i expose things, if i expose certain things on BU…i also take it to an INTERNATIONAL LEVEL…where it’s seen by EVERYONE AROUND THE WORLD and on the Continent….so that the culprits are WELL KNOWN WHEN THEY TRAVEL….i don’t just expose for the gossip factor and then hours later everyone forgets about it, write a few shifty comments maybe and go home until the next piece of gossip hits the blog….i love STINGING results…

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  • How to know a yardfowl – when a person cannot raise one word in opposition to a particular party and refuses even to discuss obvious wrongdoing.

    This time Lorenzo, not seeing a “vi” rushed out to deny. He believed the liar with whom he was familiar. He did not defend the action. He just did not believe it took place as described by the opposing yardfowl. But to his credit he was duped. He has not returned to acknowledge his mistake but at least he has not disputed what cannot now be disputed.

    But here we have another of greater intellect who refuses to engage.

    Another “NON ISSUE”?

    P.S. Another way to tell a yardfowl is when he cannot even be found. He knows who he is.

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  • And who the hell is this BLP operative speaking about children “adoring” Ms. Mottley???

    This language is troubling!

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  • Can anyone explain WHY the island is in so much DEBT that has to BE RESTRUCTURED…and would it have anything to do with the BILLION DOLLARS IN VAT stolen by the minority THIEVES in pretend social partnership…and all the billons RAIDED from the treasury and pension fund by the crooks in parliament in collusion with the same people THEY CALL CORRUPT ….or was it the taxes EVADED by friends and family…not sure which one or ALL BROUGHT THE ISLAND TO ITS KNEES…….maybe someone has all the answers…

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  • “If you have evidence of this wrongdoing by lawyers, politicians ete i challenge you to place your real name behind these stories you have been running for eight or ten yeard now”

    and

    “Put up or shut to rh up.”

    If only they would make the same demand for information/action on things that really matter.

    I hope you are not taking parts in any debate or CBC (or is it CXC) will be pulling the plug on you as well. What became of the CXC fiasco?

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  • The BLP platform has made two unforced mistakes, any idiot can play cricket and this vid with the children. Let us see how the platform regroups and of interest to the blogmaster how the DLP exploits it. During al this theatre discussing issues play second.

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  • David,

    The drama of the theatre is the principal issue. These unforced errors reveal what is in the minds of the performers FROM WHICH ALL OTHER ISSUES FLOW!

    If we believe that any idiot can play cricket, that translates into policy. If we believe children should be used as political pawns…..

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  • @Donna

    Agree that it does not bode well for a relevant thinking for the times, here is the crunch- what do we see on the flipside? This is the root issue, the quality members in the political class.

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  • I would Agree that govt should have placed more emphasis on local economy in helping barbados to rebound
    But not (so) govt ear is closer to the voices of the elite than closer to the homegrown ideas of the small business
    IMF can now be consider a big player in the barbados economy not for reasons that would help the economy grow but as salespersons representing outside financial interest
    Barbados is doomed inwardly as well as outwardly
    Consultants and advisors galore yet the country is in no better economic standing than 10 years ago
    What a pity

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  • Donna…you really expected any of the BU YARDFOWLS to react any differently, they love to see young Black people DESTROYED SOCIALLY, MENTALLY AND FINANCIALLY….just as they were and who did not run from the island and fowling from LONG DISTANCE….stayed as life long fowls.., so the lowlifes will either IGNORE and PRETEND what Mia, Dale and Moore did was not child abuse and exploitation OR run out without evidence to BLAME IT ON THE CHILDREN THEMSELVES which turned out to be a FOWL SLAVE LORENZO LIE…..and then gush how much these innocent children love Mia who they should be running in the other direction from……lowlife BU fowls..

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  • “This language is troubling!”

    Indeed, it is.
    I wish I had studied literature instead of the sciences.

    Sometimes the phrases seem to be taken from a George Orwell novel or from something Goebbels produced. But I lack the knowledge to demonstrate this fact.

    I would suggest that Mia gets more in touch with the people and push aside those with the bad phrases and bad advice. “Yes men” are useless.

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  • “If only they would make the same demand for information/action on things that really matter.”

    the cover up speak is to be ignored, they sing a different tune when the SHIT HITS THE FAN….and they themselves have to RUN FROM INTERNATIONAL AGENCIES…when Donville was GRABBED not a fella had the balls to take a plane, DOZENS OF FLIGHTS GOT CANCELLED …😂🤣🤣😂😂😂..everyone was laughing until their belly hurt…., how quickly they FORGOT, short attention span, shorter memories………..allow them their BIG TALK UNTIL……

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  • you really expected any of the BU YARDFOWLS to react any differently, they love to see young Black people DESTROYED SOCIALLY, MENTALLY AND FINANCIALLY…very troubling that in this case it’s primary school children being EXPLOITED FOR POLITICAL MILEAGE….….just as they were.

    If Mia wants to be loved so much, she needs to join a doomsday cult….a la Jim Jones…..but keep her HANDS OFF PEOPLE’S INNOCENT CHILDREN…

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  • The salemites/pick-a-noise crowd is just too much.
    I missed that phrase.
    HAGD, all.

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  • Theo…they either got tired of calling us salemites or they FORGOT..short attention span, shorter memories…

    And this is the MAIN REASON Mia should HANDS OFF the island’s children, i can forgive her a lot of things with my stupid forgiving self, but destorying Black children mentally and socially will not be one of them…

    “Sherri Gordon in an article How the Bullying Tactics Politicians Use Affect Kids argues that “rather than learning to treat others with respect and dignity, children are observing the nation’s top political leaders engaging in the very bullying
    tactics that kids at school use to climb
    the social ladder”.

    At every stage and in most decisions, the Prime Minister of Barbados Mia Amor Mottley’s behaviour seemingly reflects Gordon’s concern.

    It is unfortunate, in my view, that the warning given by the late former prime minister Professor Owen Arthur about the despotic tendencies of MAM was not taken to heart. That Barbadians are now recognising and wincing at the extent of dictatorial and bullying-like tendencies may be in keeping with the monkey-tail saying about the higher he climbs, the more one sees, but it also speaks to our gullibility as a people.

    In all her portfolios her bullying style was obvious and her disregard for rules and standards was documented by the concerns raised by either the Auditor General’s Office and in the case of UDC, by the Parliamentary Accounts Committee.”

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  • Hope my leader piece is all right.

    Hoping that he has kept COVID-19 at arms length and has not been seduced with a consultancy.

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  • Cant imagine govt offering koolaid as payments
    Hell No However the people bearing the brunt of the advisors decisions are told to hold strain
    For how much longer
    I guess as long as govt hands are long out for loans

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  • Trying to leave but cannot.

    There is an article on COVID-19 updates. Some of the best counterpunching that I have seen.
    Almost like judo, Tony Clemmey make an accusation and the hotel manhandled him in its response. The truth will out at some time. Suggest you read it.
    🙂
    I think instead of Lorenzo and Enuff, Mia should put the hotel management on you. 🙂

    And Mariposa seem to have regained her old form…. At times, pure poetry…

    The last goodbye for now.

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  • Forget suing Mitchell, when Lynch started his legal action he didn’t sue Loveridge, he moved against Starcom. If COW wanted to sue whom do you think he would move against? That is the reason for CBC’s preemptive apology.

    Jeff C also wrote a few columns about the subject and as he said there may be a claim against the publisher (read broadcaster- medium)

    https://barbadosunderground.net/2018/08/05/the-jeff-cumberbatch-column-enhancing-the-freedom-of-democratic-expression-ii/

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  • @Sargeant

    Correction- it was a preaction letter and Starcom bailed for 60k.

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  • @David
    The BLP platform has made two unforced mistakes, any idiot can play cricket and this vid with the children
    ++++++++++++++
    In the former it can claim the cricket analogy was made by an out of touch former Minister but in the second the PM’s and a few senior cabinet colleagues’ hands were all over the publicity stunt.

    Interesting they are calling for “more” in SGN but less is Moe in the Senate

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  • Thanks David
    I was trying to remember the circumstances but my memory failed me

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  • Flabbergasted that the big news of the day is the IMF handing gifts to Barbados govt like candy to a child and the rabbit hole on BU has been stretched far back to a Thursday nite debacle
    An observation which keeps govt out of the noises of a govt playing fast and fancy loose with the economy
    Bert performance has not shown any improvement
    Best is at it best a pipe dream which will produce a still born baby
    The welcome stamp no more welcoming than We gathering

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  • @ Hal
    Moore was lack lustre and Phillips reminded the audience he is an engineer.
    I totally agree with you. Mitchell made some good points. He did not make the debate a farce. It was a farce from day one!
    Rather than highlight the poor showing of Moore and Phillips they are trying to make Mitchell the scapegoat.
    At least Joseph had the guts to say that Mottley messed up things from the beginning.
    This is the first time since she became PM that anybody has publicly and directly put the blame exactly where it belong. Of course I should say anybody other than Senator Caswell Franklyn.

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  • “We may legitimately conclude therefore that an increased freedom of expression in this context is unlikely to come from a purposive act of a legislature comprising those who profit most from the current limits of freedom of expression. It must come from judicial activism.”

    Both the criminals in Barbados minority community and their sidekicks the politicians ABUSE LIBEL LAWS….misuse them for financial gain…then there are some who are described as the TURDS sitting on the bench accused of giving FALSE JUDGEMENT,a nice little scam to enrich all of them…

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  • The PM more or less endorsed the “idiot” comment with her “debat” vs “debate” comment at the next political meeting.

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  • During political campaigns most politicians in Barbados become ” idiots ” especially at political wrass meetings.

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  • @ William

    I do not want to claim I told you so. But I have been saying for over two years the president is not as clever as she and her fans think she is. She is not a good manager, as anyone trained in management will tell you. Nor is she a good leader.
    She is intelligent and a competent public speaker, but not a great orator. She floats on a cloud of expectations. She has also developed some Machiavellian tricks of neutralising her political enemies, by what is called in investigative journalism, love bombing.
    You are familiar with some of these tricks: offering rivals jobs of their choice, paying them as much of taxpayers’ money as she can get away with, and being what we used to call being pally, pally.
    If that fails then you see the dark side emerging ie the Caswell $400 loan/grant; Kemar Stuart, etc. Those of us old enough to hear political campaigning in the City in the 1950s and 60s will recall the source of such tricks..
    Eric ‘Fly’ Sealy used to gamble in my mother’s shop when he first came out of prison and also freelanced as a political hatchet man, totally void of principles.
    Until we recognise Mottley for who she really is, then we will drift like a ghost ship in troubled waters without realising we are being misled..

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  • David
    Years ago I commented on this blog that Mitchell is clueless. Unsurprisingly, the usual suspects are all on his train and talking nonsense about NHC, UDC etc.

    We both know why Big Works avoided the debate–fear! You don’t read scripts in a debate. As for the talk about the economy, we speak as if COVID is a dream. Remember how Bdos was one of the worse performing regional economies under the Dems? Go do a comparison now.

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  • “If that fails then you see the dark side emerging ie the Caswell $400 loan/grant; Kemar Stuart,”

    What the government had to do with Kemar Stuart?🤣🤣

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  • Only a fowl will see being in perpetual REVOLVING DEBT WITHOUT END in this decade ….as a success story………🤣😂😂

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  • So when is the next live debate…pure theatre….lol

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  • The new Barbados High Commissioner can help Bajans who want to join him in Canada eh !

    https://globalnews.ca/news/7431923/canada-immigration-plan-coronavirus/

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  • HantsOctober 31, 2020 1:15 PM I would advise any young people who have skills (electrical, plumbing etc) or a relevant degree that Canada is looking for, move hard now!!!

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  • I read that Elliot Mottley won his defamation suit against Owen Arthur and an appeal was in the works, does anyone know the status of the appeal now that Arthur has died? Would his Estate be liable for the damages?

    https://buzz-caribbean.com/news/father-of-barbados-prime-minister-wins-defamation-suit-against-former-pm-owen-arthur/

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  • When black politicians are evil, greedy and craven and still got the nerve to beg the same Black people they rob and set up for votes each election..stale piss with full strength acid is the only cure for them..

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  • @Sargeant

    Chances Mottley will do the right thing and drop the matter.

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  • @enuff

    One has to be intelligent enough to make points by avoiding defaming people. It is only under the cloak of privilege in parliament a person can make statements without threat of court action. Even then standing orders have to be followed.

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  • Prior to the debates, the BU pundits pointed out that this debate would serve no real purpose and would not benefit SGN. The BU pundits though lacking the credentials to provide a “reasoned response” were correct.

    If Mia is the super brilliant woman that some claim, then she knew that this debate would not benefit SGN. Why did she do it?

    One blogger hit the nail directly upon the head when he (or she) stated that this debate was a trial run for the national elections in 2023. Go to the head of the class.

    Yes, the debates were more beneficial for Mia than they were for SGN.

    She has introduced national televised debates into the political landscape and when 2023 rolls around, her supporters will be looking forward to at least three such debates. She is already setting the table for 2023. A table that benefits her and her party. Did you see how they savaged the DLP candidate when he smartly and collectly refuse to be a pawn in Mia’s little debate game. Even her attack dogs had a chance to practice their bite. I have already developed a great deal of sympathy for the opposition when they decline these debates in 2023. Apart from bites delivered recently, deeper and more painful bites will be inflicted.

    Regardless of what others think of her, Mia is two or three steps (or even two or three years) ahead of her competitors. If you are not impressed with her managerial style, then I must beg of you “please do not discount her political smarts”. She has already started strategizing and running for 2023.

    I am not a fan or a lover of Mia, just a secret admirer of her political acumen.

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  • The disrespect to these young children and their families is repulsive, not to mention the mental damage to young minds, they love to sue for defamatioin….their asses should be SUED FOR EXPLOITING AND ABUSING YOUNG VULNERABLE CHILDREN for political gain and advantage….how bout that…Atherley should do more than condemn, they cannot be allowed to get away with this……who the hell do these vote begging shitehounds for ministers believe they are…that they can do whatever they like with people’s children just because they have gotten away with untold crimes on the island against Black people for decades…

    https://www.nationnews.com/2020/10/31/atherley-knocks-blp-video-op/

    “Opposition Leader Bishop Joseph Atherley isn’t happy about what he’s seen in a video on social media with students of the St George Primary School among several politicians on the campaign trail in St George.

    And he’s calling on Minister of Education Santia Bradshaw to provide an explanation as to why the minors were used in that manner.

    In the video, the Barbados Labour Party leader, Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley, candidate for St George North Toni Moore and other members of the party urge the pupils to shout “Moore” in apparent support of the Barbados Workers’ Union (BWU) general secretary, who will face five opponents in the November 11 by-election.

    “As Leader of the Opposition and head of the People’s Party for Democracy and Development (PdP), I wish to condemn the actions of our political leaders as represented in the social media video clip featuring a group of St George Primary School children. PdP considers this action on the part of those politicians involved to be irresponsible, insensitive and disrespectful to both parents and the administration of the school,” Atherley said in a statement released to the media yesterday.”

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  • And all of those other asholes calling themselves politicians who stayed SILENT while those kids were viciously abused…..would have done the same thing too with their low crawling selves and for a politial opportunity, that’s why i don’t support not one of these clowns in politics, they can never see the wrongdoing that is to be condemned and the criminals who commit these crimes pursued and exposed to the world…but they want intelligent people to support and promote their shit…..when they can’t even PROTECT VULNERABLE CHILDREN….

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/10/28/remand-prisoners-await-trial-for-years-with-no-access-to-prison-programmes/
    “It’s not just Mr Wilson, there are so many other people. I was in court the other day and this guy was telling the judge that he has been in prison for 11 years and 10 months on a murder charge awaiting trial. It’s obscene.”

    Now this bit is funny..
    “It’s obscene that this matter has gone this far and even more pertinent to me, having somebody on remand for four years awaiting trial – and it would have even been longer but we pushed for an early date – because this man could not get any bail. He doesn’t have any local contacts and he wasn’t able to get any sureties.”

    If an early date is four years …

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  • https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/10/28/former-rape-accused-jailed-for-something-he-did-not-do/

    ‘Wilson also called for better treatment from police officers, some of whom he claimed brutalized him while he was being held for questioning.’

    “In Barbados it’s like you are guilty before they prove you innocent to the court. Police in Barbados does brutalize yuh plenty in the station…I can’t tolerate this thing with police beating up people and forcing them to sign statements that they didn’t write.”

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  • @ Greene

    SINCE YOU SWEAR BARBADOS POLICE CAN DO NO WRONG:

    “In Barbados it’s like you are guilty before they prove you innocent to the court. Police in Barbados does brutalize yuh plenty in the station…I can’t tolerate this thing with police beating up people and forcing them to sign statements that they didn’t write.”

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  • I AM SURE THIS SAME TYPE OF THING HAPPENS ON THE 2 X 3 ISLAND FREQUENTLY:

    A New Jersey cop sent sexually explicit texts to an 18-year-old woman hours after he arrested her, prosecutors say

    The Monmouth County Prosecutor’s Office announced Thursday that Damien Broschart, 29, is being charged with cyber harassment. Broschart is an officer with the Neptune City Police Department who has been suspended from his role without pay.

    The police department launched an investigation into Broschart’s conduct after the woman revealed he texted her hours after her arrest. The woman was arrested earlier this month. Upon her process and release, Broschart drove her back to her car and turned off his body cam equipment, according to the prosecutor’s office. He then asked the woman for her phone number.

    Broschart sent the woman text messages calling her “cute” and saying he’d like to pay her back, prosecutors say. After the first round of messages, Broschart’s texts became sexually explicit, with the New Jersey officer offering to meet with the woman at her home after his shift.

    The woman blocked his number, but Broschart began to repeatedly call her from his office at the police department.

    “This type of behavior will not be tolerated, and has no place within the Neptune City Police Department, and the entire law enforcement community,” said Neptune City Police Chief Matthew Quagliato in a statement. “Although Broschart’s actions were completely unacceptable, this incident does not reflect on the great work done on a daily basis by the remaining officers of the Neptune City Police Department.”

    Prosecutors are also charging him with hindering apprehension of oneself, a law that prohibits people from interfering with someone’s apprehension or prosecution.

    If Broschart is convicted on this charge, he could face up to five years of prison time, prosecutors say. A cyber harassment conviction could land him a year and a half in jail.

    In a statement to local news outlet NJ.com, Broschart’s attorney said Broschart denies all allegations.

    “I will evaluate the information gathered by the state when it is provided and formulate his defense accordingly,” defense attorney Richard Incremona said.

    If convicted, Broschart could lose his job, the prosecutor’s office said.

    “Although there is a presumption of non-incarceration for first time offenders with no criminal records in New Jersey, an emphasis has been placed on seeking resolutions on such cases that ensures that police officers who engage in criminal conduct forfeit their public positions,” a statement from the prosecutor’s office reads.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/jersey-cop-sent-sexually-explicit-145256433.html

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  • I believe we are working on speedier trials but still poor people and others without local contacts are being disadvantaged by the bail system until we clear the backlog. Maybe the ankle bracelets would be a good option. Something must be done. Something must definitely be done.

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  • AND despite what the CoP says some police do beat up people during questioning. I know a lady who was hit with great force in the head from behind with a telephone book by a male police officer. She still suffers from headaches. Who knows what long term damage she has suffered? She was released as there was no evidence found.

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  • Barbados police has for years had a very bad reputation with international human rights agencies for torture and brutality, human rights violattions against Black citizens,that’s the only people they know they could get away with brutalizing on the island, just like the skunks for politicians and government ministers…multiple reports have been written about them.

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  • “having somebody on remand for four years awaiting trial – and it would have even been longer but we pushed for an early date ”

    they don’t see violating each other’s human rights as any big issue on the island, they never have, they see it as normal, check how many of the politicians now jostling for their turn at the treasury and pension fund called out Mia for the violation of minor children’s human right not to be abused and exploited by low class adult politicians in the government, only one…all the rest went into silent mode, refuse to defend defenseless Black children, but will defend utter shite for political gain.. and want someone to take them seriously and put them in charge of children’s and other people’s futures.

    Theo…..can’t remember if you were around when this white sexual predator James from UK, sexually assaulted a grown black woman, a widow, was arrested, was about to be sentenced for his crime by a no nonsense magistrate and the stinking government interferred in the case and let him walk free to return to UK, because tourism and his feelings as a criminal sexual predator was more important to them than observing the human rights of the Black woman in a black majority country, he did not even have to pay a fine…and that is the degraded mentality they push on the island….not to mention the dirty ass minorities on the island, some right here on BU especially nasty racist black John and that gunrunning, drug trafficking, moneylaundering syrian cartel trailer park trash Freedom Liar, who further abused and victimized the lady on FB and BU to defend the sexual predator’s right to sexaully assault a Black lady in Barbados…without even knowing who she was…but not one of them cared…they went after her with everything they had until some of us went after them hammer and tongs..

    See how wonderful tourism is going for all of them now……KARMA..

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  • We had Grenville trying to break into the bedroomsof adults to monitor and dictate in voyeur style what type of porn they are watching, while claiming it’s to protect the children, he made such a BIG STINK on FB and BU that people had to chase him away, so where is he now to protect CHILDREN from being exploited by Mia and her gang….when it’s a very public and REAL matter.

    ah can’t even see Piece on here to expound further on this..

    .now we can separate the wheat from the chaff….the pretenders and liars with their ulterior motives, who don’t see what Mia did as abusive….and human rights violating to defenseless children.. there’s .no better reason to KEEP THEM ALL OUT of the parliament..

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  • People in Barbados always have their priorities wrong, instead of the hypocritial christians PROTESTING about who is in same sex union with whom and who is sleeping with who….this is what they should be protesting, including the decades of robberies of estates from the elderly and their beneficiaries, but no….run around in the rain pretending to be christians and protest other people’s sex lives…

    the low pedigreed in the parliament are being called out for their fraudulent pretentiousness…. all of whom are only A FEW DEGREES REMOVED AS SLAVES……🤣😂🤣😂……..pretense coming from a bunch of wannabes who have less intelligence than the common pothound found on the street digging through garbage, at least they know how to survive without SUCKING ON TAXPAYERS….unlike the less than pothound low pedigreed.

    Others are seeing this for what it really is and are speaking out…

    “Twenty-four of my years as a teacher were spent at the St. George Secondary School, and I taught hundreds of children from both St. George North and South.

    I also met several parents and found them to be decent, industrious people whom I respected greatly.

    It is, therefore, of great concern to me that some of the offerings emanating from political platforms have been offensive to the residents of the St. George North Constituency.

    Much has already been said about Mr Delisle Bradshaw’s disrespectful suggestion that cricketers and, by extension, other sportsmen are not particularly intelligent, and therefore, have no place in an elevated career like politics.

    The attempts by Ms Toni Moore’s campaign manager Dwight Sutherland and the Prime Minister Mia Amor Mottley to do damage control fell way short of the mark, and, indeed, might have added insult to injury.

    We then had the Minister of Education’s boast about her pedigree and that of the BLP’s candidate.

    What was Ms Bradshaw implying about the status of Mr Reifer and the majority of working class St. George North residents?

    This talk of pedigree coming from persons who are only a few generations away from slavery would be laughable were the speaker not someone holding a senior cabinet position, and who should, therefore, know better.

    It was also disappointing to see the Prime Minister, in her attempt to discredit Mr Reifer, demonstrating what she saw as his need to read even his name from paper.

    If a party has a good candidate, there is no need for the party’s leader to attempt to belittle an opponent.

    There is room in politics for humour and even jabs at rivals, but constant attacks on another candidate’s intelligence are beyond the pale.

    By the way, as far as I am aware, Mr Reifer is a graduate of the Lodge School, an institution with which I have had some association.

    Did he not have to pass the highly touted 11+ examination to gain entrance to that school?

    He may not be an orator, but I can think of only a handful of good speakers in the present House of Assembly.

    I was shocked to see primary school pupils in uniform being lined up for a photo-op with leading politicians and the candidate of the ruling party.

    Our innocent pre-teens should not be used to gain political mileage. Did the principal and teachers of the school sanction this, or did they have no choice?

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  • In all the hue and cry no one should overlook the fact that AG Marshall was pictured in this political video of the exploitation of the children
    How can he be sworn as a minister of justice and to be seen engaged in a scene which by judicial prudence can be relevant to criminal activity subject to exploitation when children without parental consent are involved
    Heads should roll .Unfortunately a look at this video tells a story that if the head is sick the entire body is sick

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  • When is Mia on behalf of the people do the right thing as asked AG to resign
    His face in that video is sickening and bodes well to believe he has no understanding of the justice systems and ethics involved

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  • A pity you were not as strident in your condemnation of Michael Carrington for withholding thousands of dollars from a seventy something wheelchair ‘ridden’ man who has since passed on.

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  • Welcome to Barbados, a land of degrees.. we got farenheit and celsius,
    We got MS, MSc, PhD, BSc and lots of BS. But the one degree that cannot be beaten is the ped.

    With your ped degree, doors open automatically. Even if you fade into obscurity, your ped degree gets you a column on BU if you are sighted. Add our ped degree to your degree and you become a legend.

    It cannot be bought and no studies are required. Just submit your name to our BU ped degree board and we will let you know if you qualify.

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