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It was recently announced, by the Government Information Service, that the Protective Service Commission has approved the appointment of Mr. Oral Williams on promotion to the post of Deputy Commissioner of Police in the Royal Barbados Police Force, with effect from May 1, 2020.

I really don’t know if I should congratulate or offer commiserations to Mr. Williams. This has nothing to do with his fitness for the post. I do not know of his work or performance as a senior police officer and cannot speak to his fitness. My concern is that he has been appointed to a non-existent post, since someone is already substantively appointed Deputy Commissioner.

The Police Act, Chapter 167 of the Laws of Barbados, states at section 6:

The Force shall consist of a Commissioner, a Deputy Commissioner and such number of Assistant Commissioners, Superintendents, Inspectors, subordinate police officers and constables respectively as does not exceed the number provided by any order made under section 2 of the Civil Establishments Act: but the members of the Force at 16th October 1961, shall continue to be members of the Force and shall be subject to this Act.

The number of persons appointed to the post of Commissioner and Deputy Commissioner is subject to primary legislation, in this case the Police Act, and can only be changed by an amendment to that Act done in Parliament. On the other hand, the Police Act goes on to give the Minister responsible for Civil Establishments the power, by subsidiary legislation, to determine the number of Assistant Commissioners, Superintendents, Inspectors, subordinate police officers and constables.

For completeness, the Civil Establishments Act was repealed and replaced by the Public Service Act on December 31, 2007. The power to determine the number of posts in the Public Service is now found at section 13.(1) of the Public Service Act.

The power to make appointments to public offices and to remove and to exercise disciplinary control over persons holding or acting in the Public Service is vested in the Governor-General, acting in accordance with the advice of service commissions, in this case the Protective Service Commission. That service commission, like all others in Barbados, can only recommend the appointment of persons to post that are available. There is only one post of Deputy Commissioner available and that is already filled.

Who is responsible for this cock-up? Is this yet another example of this Government not getting anything right the first?

 

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1,036 responses to “Senator Caswell Franklyn Speaks – Mock Police”

  1. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ Sargeant

    It is laughable but expected that some persons would wish to characterise the PM’s clarification as “legal gymnastics”. Yes the law can be complex but I don’t think you have to be that nimble and agile to simply point out incontrovertible facts.

    At any rate, my comments at 7.11 to David adequately explain the complementary nature of both statements.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    @Khaleel

    If you want to appear credible on the blog the issue must be debated holistically. Cherry picking from the arguments will not do. It is obvious the government has pull back from the AG’s position because they spotted a legal opportunity to do so.

  3. David Avatar
    David

    @Senator

    You read Ezra Alleyne’s perspective on the issue? Perhaps this is where the prime minister is mustering her response.

  4. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @ Sargeant,

    The PM is correct.

  5. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @KK

    Are you some kind of a BLP weather cock arguing from both sides of your mouth about the legality of the appointment? Didn’t you write one of your interminable essays in support of the AG’s “apology”?

    Sometimes one ought to give the situation a rest and take some time to breathe to let the situation unfold.

  6. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Khaleel Kothdiwala May 15, 2020 11:13 PM

    My political whippersnapper, if every thing done was legally kosher (sorry for using that word ‘kosher’ which is equivalent to ‘porcine’ in your un-Islamic world of moral confusion) why would you back the AG’s apology in his rather profusely eager manner in his haste to amend an Act in the highest court in the land to correct the perceived administrative cock-ups?

    Why not just let his initial advice to Caswell to Pi**s off to stand, as is?

    Which political master or mistress was really behind this public ‘Act’ of remorse and promise to put legally ‘wrong’ things right in the fullness of time?

    Even your BU guardian has seen the error of your precocious ways and has attempted to rein you in
    @ David May 16, 2020 1:52 AM
    “Khaleel:
    Why did the Attorney General of Barbados Dale Marshall apologize for making a mistake with the appointment?”.

    Now go and say your prayers to Allah and ask forgiveness for being an uppity lad among the class of your intellectual and seasoned superiors.

    We will listen to your plea of contriteness, just like your AG displayed in his ‘received instruction’ from above his lowly head.

    “Be childlike with children.”~ Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)

  7. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @David

    could you please post Ezra’s piece or a link?

    i believe i know what is will say but i want to confirm that.

  8. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ David

    That is absolutely ridiculous and not even slightly related to the facts. Anyone can listen to the Prime Minister say the AG did not walk back the appointment, and she also reinforced the need to tidy the legislation.

    @ Millsy

    I’m so sorry that you’ve found yourself on the wrong side of this question. Time to express remorse Millie.

  9. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    David

    This issue exposes how petty and unnecessarily adversarial (bachannal loving) we can be as a society and reinforces my warning about playing fire with populism. When the Senator first raised this issue, the AG said he was not interested in a tit-4-tat. The media and the bacchanlists jumped all over his comments. I repeat the Nation carried a story a year ago about Williams as a DCOP. You heard anything from Verla or the PdP then? The AG later in a statement said the Police Act will be amended, no different to what the PM said, though admittedly not in as much detail or forceful as the PM in her response. I note that in his Press Statement the AG never said it was unlawful, he said it is true the Police Act only speaks to one post.🤣🤣

    Out steps the Senator and Depeiza calling for the firing, talk of political interference, corruption, the man should not be paid, payback etc. All politicking rather than any sound reason for firing the AG. Up jumps the media again and asked the PM yesterday. Necessary?

    Note how the aspirant Greene sidestepped the demolition of Verla and the General Secretary, even after his tit-4-tat with Artax a mere few days ago. This is not a big issue, we ought to learn how to separate the overtly political mileage-seeking issues from those that are of genuine concern. From all indication the post was created; therefore, whether the implied doctrine was recognised after the AG spoke is irrelevant. There was clearly no intent to hide the establishment of the post or appointment of the gentleman. The actions by the now defunct Police Services Commsion also confirms the man’s suitability for the post. Like I have said before, age should not determine whether an individual is promoted. It is disappointing to hear that implied by a Trades Unionist.

    Where were all these reporters/journalists and Greene when an Executive Chairman was appointed at BWA, when the BWA Act speaks to a General Manager and a Chairman? No post was created, no advertisement and definitely no amendment to the Act.

    I look forward to the debate that Bishop Atherley and his party are keen to participate in, especially in the Senate.

  10. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ Senator Caswell Franklyn

    Beginning your rebuttal with a tired DLP talking point does little for the credibility of the argument.

  11. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “WARU isn’t even deigning to bother with the matter. He/She has quickly sought to move on to other matters. I must say thought that when you say:
    “Caswell…don’t be deterred, the easiest thing in the world to do is to BACK DATE PAPER….just as easy as changing and forging the names and dates on wills and conveyances and stealing whole estates…”
    are you not being intentionally misleading? ”

    no am not…because we stil KNOW THE LIARS IN THE PARLIAMENT and their yardfowls better than you ever could….

    ok…example..

    TEETS…claimed and error was made, meaning…they did not check the legislation, he claimed that the legislation CURRENTLY speaks to only one 1 Deputy Cop….fine, so he checked the legislation and claimed that the Police Act NEEDS amending…remember he is the AG…

    out jumps Mia 2 days later to claim that SHE amended the Police Act, so we done know it would have to be WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE AG…given everything he said above….and i dont know which Police Act he was looking at, but it is clear that it was NEVER AMENDED…

    and alyuh still believe ya talking to fowls like yaselves, children or stupid people and not GROWN ASS ADULTS who can THINK CRITICALLY…who can tell when the PM and the AG are BOTH all lying….STILL..

    that is why children and fowls should never play with matches.

  12. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Enuff May 16, 2020 12:21 AM
    “The size of the population does not negate the necessity of the post. Furthermore, we are talking about the HR and Administrative management of the Police Force, therefore if you are going argue about size it would have to be that of the police force not the population. The RBPF has over 1,000 officers. Point me to an company/organisation of that size without a senior manager responsible for HR and Administration.”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now why is there a pressing need for such a large force to “Protect and Serve” a rather docile and law-abiding well-educated relatively small population less than the population on the council tax roll of the ‘average’ London borough including Brent in N. London the home town of your limey ‘friend’ who exposed you for ‘what’ you really are?

    So why not do the more professional (instead of political) thing and, like the British Met, appoint a person ‘trained’ in “HR and Administrative management” (preferably a female to reflect diversity at the top)?

    Why waste the few years left in that well trained and seasoned asset experienced in areas of the ‘operational’ kind?

    Now what is going to become of that rather successful ‘Crime-stoppers programme’ whose focus was on grassing on petty peddlers of the innocent mary jane and other petty law-breaking activities instead of serious white-collar felonies like the Donvillegate affair to impress the EU black-listing police?

  13. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Miller…do you believe these clowns though…don’t have the first goddamn clue how to think critically, let alone know when the PM and AG are both lying their taxpayer paid asses off, they should take them somewhere and feed them some nicely laced KOOLAID…ah would even help dig the holes for them..

    damn idiots…lol

    ah can’t wait to hear that the amendment to the Protection of Wages Act which they are now working hard at morphing into “Forced Savings” AKA new age slavery and telling us it was amended 2 years ago…

  14. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    lol…so Bajans know not to listen to Dale nor Mia ever..

    ..he said the Police Act needs, meaning CURRENTLY, amending to include a second deputy cop, he said that just earlier THIS WEEK …..the same cop that is already collecting a salary for doing very little or nothing because crime did not get any better…

    …she, Mia says that SHE amended the Police Act months and months ago…but somehow the AG is not seeing the amendment up to this week…

    so there they are contradicting each other…and got ONLY THE FOWLS FOOLED…lol

    so now Khaleel sees why i thought it was a waste of my energy to even point that out when she and the minorities are busy trying to create an environment to ENSLAVE BLACK BAJANS…steal their labor and pay them shite bonds that are just as worthless as all the nuisances in the parliament…i thought that more important to address rather than pointing out what liars she and the AG are…the people already know they are dangerous liars capable of anything..

  15. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    There is always great virtue in admitting when you make a mistake. We all do it. But what is pitiful is when persons attempt to deflect and distract by seeking to speak about tangential and irrelevant matters. Senator Franklyn claimed the appointment was unlawful and even beyond that motivated by ill intent. Both of those have been proven to be demonstrably false. You all on this thread can either acknowledge that unmistakable reality or dig rabbit holes to spare your own blushes about who said what when. Utterly ridiculous and ironically very infantile. You all make yourselves laughing stocks when you try to avoid the reality hitting you in the face. As I always knew, Mia Mottley and her Administration can never do anything right because a person cannot see through hatred-stained lenses. I am so sorry for all of you. You really ought to draw a line under this because the more comments you make, the more pitiful each and every one of you becomes.

    The appointment was lawful. The reasons for the appointment was aboveboard. The law needs to be tidied. The PM made that abundantly clear, in a more detailed way than the AG.

    It does you all no favours dwelling on this

  16. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    And since we know them so very well, we done know that the lie yesterday about the amendment to the Police Act WAS A DISTRACTION…for the latest cockup..

    …..being so excited at sitting with minority THIEVES that she forgot that the big brain scam should not have been gushed out in excitement publicly BEFORE the amendment to “forced savings” aka tefing people’s labor was finalized…

    Miller…this kid got a lot to learn…

  17. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    reply from Guyson pending

  18. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “Senator Franklyn claimed the appointment was unlawful and even beyond that motivated by ill intent.”

    you are being set up again, worse yet , you are setting yourself up, lawyers on the DLP end says it is STILL UNLAWFUL….and you claimed you are not a lawyer nor legal expert…so what the hell do you know except that you are parroting the PM, a known liar…

  19. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    “lawyers on the DLP end says it is STILL UNLAWFUL” – you won your argument when you said this WARU. I mean the Dems said it so hey hey, must be true. That you wouldn’t sense the irony in accusing the PM of being a known liar and using them as your substantiation says a lot about you. More than that, aren’t you the one always calling for them to be locked up? The more you say, the more tangled you become.

  20. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    ….”and she also reinforced the need to tidy the legislation.”

    wait, wait, wait…so why would a legislation that WAS RECENTLY AMENDED according to Mia….which the AG apparently KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT…does not even know that the amendment exists up until YESTERDAY…….but this legislation needs tidying…

    these are supposed to be seasoned…LIARS…qualified LIARS from the London School of Economics and UWI and cannot get not even one lie straight…

    a lot of yall were born last night….i was born at night….lol

  21. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    It just struck me. Senator Franklyn is the one who first “exposed” the government for doing something lawful and helpful for the country (still can’t get over how hilarious that is). He is using DLP talking points manufactured by Hal Gollop et al. One of Sen Franklyn’s most starry-eyed followers is using DLP lawyers as smoking gun substantiation. One of those same lawyers is now the Gen Sec of the DLP, and formerly Chairman of the then PSC who appointed a DCP 23 days before an election. And the Dems want the AG to resign. It has come full circle. I am really surprised though. I didn’t think Ms De Peiza had so many people supporting her to keep the leadership of the DLP. They’re all just working to help her milk a non-existent issue for her gain. It makes sense though. Milk a non-existent issue to sustain a non-existent political career at the helm of a non-existent political organisation. It’s brilliant!

  22. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    …”you won your argument when you said this WARU. I mean the Dems said it so hey hey, must be true.”

    since you are very NEW…you would not know my relationship and utter contempt for DLP and all the parasites that it holds…..so for that you can be forgiven…

    but …in saying that…if lawyers, i said, not just any DLP riffraff fowl…said that the appointment is STILL ILLEGAL…because of course they would have access to the Police Act which neither YOU NOR I HAVE…and knowing how desperate they are to regain the trust of the electorate…they are hardly in a position to outright LIE…

    learn to think critically…lying about something like that would SINK any chances they have to be elected in 2023…even they would know that….

  23. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @Caswell,

    notwithstanding the first paragraph, MAM went to law school in the UK. she may not have a legal certificate from a uni in the WI to practice but around that time one could be admitted to practice by the local bar association. that is not the case now.

    as an addendum to what i have said above-

    be that as it may, it seems to me that you are right. that is why they have to amend the police act. if what MAM is saying is correct she would not have to do so.

    this doctrine of implied repeal usually works for like legislation but i am not too sure that a SI, secondary legislation, could repeal primary legislation – the Police Act. i will have to do some more research because the SI seems to be tied to The Public Service Act. but why use a SI to enact law or repeal law?

    it seems to me that they were scrambling for a get out a jail card for PR purposes and Ezra did some good research. well done Ezra.

    nevertheless by saying that they have to go back and do some tidying up to the primary legislation- the Police Act- they are conceding that all is not right.

    again why didnt the AG say all this when he responded to you?

  24. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    But there you are believing everything Mia and Dale says without having any history or information about how deceitful they both are, although you have read about their deceit and lies, so what does that say about you and your future to be able to decipher when you are being used and lied to repeatedly….think..

  25. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    I have not seen Ezra’s piece

    Sent from my iPad

  26. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    It is clear that Ezra found a loophole and used it, but it is still not sufficient to counter the illegality of the appointment, hence the tidying up to the legislation to avoid further investigation, am sure the loophole was only found day before yesterday….but not slick Enuff nor strong Enuff to escape the illegal move….hence the tidying up AFTER THE FACT.

    Ezra’s eyes must be exhausted.

  27. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    By some unknown act of transmutation, the faeces of this Mugabe regime has now become the Midas gold and saviour for the Barbados economy.

    Suddenly there are some 15 brown nosing Mugabe Mottley poochlickers emboldened by this Man-Chile Khaleel who in his engagement style deflects anything that he cannot answer with verbal jism aided and abetted by the Truly Dishonourable and Dishonest One.

    Even here as the Man-Chile continues as one up the Sacred 15 to make threats the Truly Dishonourable and Dishonest One continues to give them a carte blanche

    But unlike the other two who were bringing unrelated topics to the blog and whom he was told to ban, now he got to contrive a reason to ban de ole man!

    About 4 days ago one of the Sacred 15 sent here to attack all anti Mottley comments THREATENED Senator Caswell Franklyn with “the bread line”

    The Honourable Blogmaster said nothing about this because he people doing the threatening!

    2 days ago one of his sacred 15 THREATENED de ole man daughters with rape! when they are returning from work on night!!!

    The said scum Honourable Blogmaster did not think that, as a father himself, that comment demanded him to sanction that comment CAUSE IT IS DIRECTED AT THE GIRL CHILDREN OF PIECE THE PROPHET (formerly Legend)

    And finally, when on May 15th at 11.08 am, on the morning following the murder of 3 people in St Phillip, the golden boy made the disconcerting comment about “eagerly awaiting the relocation of many people here to the murder beseiges St Phillip”

    Incredulously, the same holier than thou Honourable Blogmaster, DID NOT SANCTION THAT COMMENT that took delight in the state that St. Phillip but goes on to call me a liar for calling out his MAN-CHILE!

    “…Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world…would do this, it would change the earth.

    William Faulkner…”

  28. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ Piece

    “And finally, when on May 15th at 11.08 am, on the morning following the murder of 3 people in St Phillip, the golden boy made the disconcerting comment about “eagerly awaiting the relocation of many people here to the murder beseiges St Phillip”

    Excuse me Piece? You’re in the habit of making things up but this is exceptional even for you.

  29. David Avatar
    David

    @Greene

    This is a dirty look at the exchanges re Ezra Alleyne.

    https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/05/ealleyne.pdf

  30. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @David

    says a lot and says nothing at the same time. Ezra began but stopped shortly thereafter and ended with a question, if i read the back and forth correctly. credit him for initiating the research

    Trotman asserts MAM have it wrong and he appears to be strenuous in that assertion for various reasons.

    to re-iterate i think MAM did a good PR pull the wool over the public eyes as only she can.

    if she is correct why does the primary legislation – the Police Act- have to be amended?

    could you find and post Guyson’s reply to MAM?

  31. Lorenzo Avatar
    Lorenzo

    Poor Piece aka franklyn poochlicker when getting his old ass kicked by young Khaleel cries foul and blames the blogmaster.This is his usual slimy trick to ease out of situations lost. Not going to work this time poovhlicker.Take your head out of Frankly, s ass and think for yourself parrotYOUR MISSION HAS FAILED AND HAS NOT GAINED ANY MAJOR TRACTION WITH BAJANS.As fotr Ms Depeiza the politival nightwatchman it is real funny you calling on someone to resign when in your time we had in my view the wordt PM , AG and Finance Minister in the history of Barbafos and no one resigned or was fired.One more thing David BU if this clown Piece disrrspects you on YOUR BLOG BAN HIS ASS LET HIM FPRM HIS OWN BLOG.Treat him like Austin and Mariposa showing them who id boss..

  32. TheOGazerts Avatar
    TheOGazerts

    funny
    not a legal eagle, but i though it was just educated bajans saying nothing
    Would suggest removing
    Amazed that the Alleyne/Cawmere/Hc?Foundation/Lodge BS is well woven into the national fabric.

  33. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Loopholes aka flaws…are quite useful in spins..

  34. David Avatar
    David

    @Greene

    Why did you not post it? We will not brand you a DLP acolyte…LOL

    APPOINTMENT WAS NOT LAWFUL
    I regret having to further embroil the Royal Barbados Police Force in controversy, especially at a time when its members need to focus on keeping our people safe.
    However, I feel constrained to clarify the fog created by statements made by the Prime Minister on the unlawful appointment of a person to a post that does not exist in that organisation.
    The Prime Minister pointed to an interview in 2012 or 2013 after which unsuccessful candidates for the post of Deputy Commissioner were ranked in priority in the event that the post became vacant.
    The single post of Deputy Commissioner has not become vacant since the appointment of the successful candidate.
    Before the then Commission could appoint the successful candidate, legal action was taken to prevent the Commission from making promotions until the court could determine the outcome of the matter before it which challenged the promotion of certain persons.
    Barbados is fully aware that the Royal Barbados Police Force was embroiled in legal matters which prevented any promotions from taking place. An important factor forgotten by the Prime Minister in her declarations about persons acting for inordinate periods in the Force.
    During the tenure of the 2012/2013 Police Services Commission, there was never any contemplation of two posts of Deputy Commissioner.
    The appointment of a person to such a post in 2020, which is nonexistent, can in no way relate to what a now defunct Commission did in 2012 or 2013.
    It should also be borne in mind that the entity which conducted those interviews no longer exists. Therefore, the usual practice of continuity from one Commission to a differently constituted one, does not obtain, for there is now no Police Service Commission.
    Further, a priority list of unsuccessful candidates does not have a life of seven years. Such a list loses its life after two years. This further makes curious the justification used by the Prime Minister for this unfortunate development.
    From what I have heard in her delivery the Prime Minister at no point addressed the critical factor which is the legality of the appointment of a person to a post that does not exist.
    As a result, through no fault of his own, a long serving officer is being used to deflect the unfortunate action of which he is the subject.
    Political tampering has caused problems in the Force before. It seems set to do it again.
    Guyson Mayers
    General Sectretary
    Democratic Labour Party
    15 May 2020

  35. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ the Dishonourable and Dishonest segment of the Honourable Blogmaster Borg,

    You cant be fvucking serious!

    You said and I quote

    “…Here you have a youngster trying to debate the issues and instead of stepping up you continue to engage in puerile and boring behaviour…”

    You Man-Chile DOES NOT RH define the script that drives my narrative!

    I know that Mugabe Mottley IS A DESPOT!

    This is not driven by any hatred of this party Mugabe but it is through monitoring her consistent actions in every role she has ever held, THE WOMAN, OR WHATEVER SEX SHE HAS, gives NOTHING to her charges.

    And this is at the core of my prosecution and activism in these matters about building my nation.

    No script from your insignificant man child can or will divert me from that task.

    The bigger picture is the Well Being of Barbados not one insignificant poochlicker called Kotiwala (if I have mispelt his name this is not intentional but what I wish to impart is that he is not that important for me)

    Barbados is at a crossroads of 40 years of ineptitude!

    We exist in a country that is as backward as the most remote indigenous people who fool ourselves as to our competencies and capabilities

    In her desire to be Prime Minister for Life what her relentless desire to be PM will do is stymie all growth and progress of the Nation of Barbados

    Men CANNOT BE FREE under dictatorships.

    So de ole man got to keep focused on that bigger message and not be sidetracked by wayside piss

  36. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    @David

    thought it would be better coming from you…lol

    interesting

    i would not say that MAM got her facts wrong but it looks like she was substantially and substantively incorrect

  37. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    Which part of Senator Caswell Franklyn’s response you cant understand?

    He said and I quote

    “… the Police Act provides for a Commissioner and a Deputy, but not the creation of a post of Deputy Commissioner.

    The minister’s powers have not been increased.

    The minister can make subsidiary legislation, but NOT TO REPEAL PRIMARY LEGISLATION

    That can only be done by Parliament itself, and the Prime Minister is failing to understand that…”

    It is not that “she is failing” but that she knows explicitly that this act of hers requires Parliamentary Approval!

    Mugabe going keep pushing her attempts to subvert the Constitution of Barbados EVERY FVUCKING DAY SHE IS IN OFFICE!

    So here is what is going to happen!

    AT THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION, WE GOING CHANGE THAT!

    And suddenly the Man-Chile becomes aware of the importance and impact of this Blog.

    And, being warned by the Dishonourable and Dishonest Blogmaster who the Honourable Blogmaster sometimes refers to, he want to force this Blog to close down.

    And de ole man going show wunna in advance how dem going try to do it!

    1.Tomorrow morning a next article going get launch heah pun de same RH subject

    2.it gine got a pretty name but it will not be authored by Senator Caswell Franklyn

    3.De Senator will wisely continue to comment here UNTIL THIS ARTICLE REACHES ANOTHER 1700 RESPONSES

    Cause this is what Mugabe and her imps are seeing

    Senator Caswell Franklyn IS POPULAR even before the election has been called.

    So they have to kill his popularity AND THIS ARTICLE by deflecting.

    Ergo Man-Chile and the 14 others

  38. David Avatar
    David

    @Greene

    An interesting intervention by Guyson Mayers. He should know even if his appointment by the former administration helped to politicize the force.

  39. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ Senator Caswell Franklyn

    You said and I quote

    “… Caswell Franklyn May 16, 2020 7:35 AM

    David

    My last comment has gone astray…”

    What you could have said is that it get held UNTIL DEM DECIDE A RESPONSE

    heheheheheheheheheheheheh

    Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with one of mine that gone astray!

  40. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    Credibility is important in communication. Guyson Mayers has as much moral authority to comment on anything RBPF related as Jack the Ripper has to condemn murder. Even if he had a shred of credibility after he did his utmost to bulldoze morale in the Force, he said nothing substantial.
    1. Why was the RBPF embroiled in lawsuits relating to promotions? Was it because of grossly unfair and politicising appointments by a PSC empanelled by a DLP AG?
    2. The Prime Minister never suggested that the former PSC contemplated a second DCP position, so he is misleading the public again when he says that.
    3. Mayers sought to suggest that Mottley did not address the legality of the appointment, which she plainly and incontrovertibly proved to be lawful. That is however beside the point. There is no explanation here as to why he believes the appointment to be unlawful. Bold assertions from a controversial PSC Chairman are not convincing.

    I make the point again that if these flimsy, washed-out, half-baked excuses for arguments are unable to convince a child of no more than 16 years old, completely unaware of the world, how do you all expect to fool the intelligent, adult population of Barbados.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Piece, I found the following for you. I have become increasingly concerned about you with your last few comments. I would not like to see you spiral out of control and be out of commission. You’re too amusing….you would be missed. These nine exercises should help you calm down my brother (or sister – I can never be sure with these pseudonyms 🤷‍♂️)
    https://www.healthline.com/health/anger-management-exercises

  41. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster

    Look even your Man-Chile has taken to debriding you on your own Blog!

    “… Khaleel Kothdiwala May 16, 2020 8:47 AM

    @ David

    That is absolutely ridiculous and not even slightly related to the facts…”

    IN SHORT HE CALLING YOU ILLITERATE LIKE H.A used to do

    Heheheheh

    And then is saying that you lying (that is what “even related to the facts” means)

    He continued by saying

    “…Anyone [anyone with sense, but you] can listen to the Prime Minister say the AG did not walk back the appointment, and she also reinforced the need to tidy the legislation…”

    You see how you getting dissed by your own Man-Chile???

  42. Silversleeves Avatar
    Silversleeves

    Piece

    How you could let a little child rile you up so? You are pathetic lolol. I see Miller gone or as the youngster does call he Millsy. You all don’t like that nuh. Wunna wouldn’t learn to treat people with respect.

    Senator Franklyn has MISLED the country (de boy say accidentally I ain’t know bout dat), and he is being supported by the Dems. Good company he finds himself in. This whole ting smells real fishy and all the actors on stage seem to be pushing an agenda. People step back and look in and don’t let yourself be deceived by people who have nothing but contempt for others.

    Wunna really should move on. This whole thing looks so bad fo you all. If the PdP was going to get 1,000 total votes in 2023/22 election, I would say you Piece would be lucky if your fellas pull of 200 votes throughout the whole country,

  43. Cuhdear Bajan Avatar
    Cuhdear Bajan

    I don’t get into legalistic arguments. Cuh dear, we know that the law is an ass, appealing mostly to lawyers and legislators. Lawyers and legislators, all of them dabble in law. That is what they do. AND WE PAY THEM MORE THAN THEY DESERVE TO DO SO. A whole lot of them would not know what to do with themselves otherwise, because they know nothing but law. Very likely most of them cannot even change a tap washer, raise a child, or change an old man’s diapers.

    We know when the law pretended that children born outside of a state/church approved marriage was filii nullius/child of no one, because the LAW/the legislators said so. In reality every single child ever born is the child of a mother and a father.

    So the truth is I don’t have much respect for lawyers/legislators. I pay my taxes so that they can get paid. But this does not say that i have to respect them.

    So I int getting this nonsensical argument, as I told my chief this morning.

    Stupssseee!!!

  44. Miller Avatar
    Miller

    @ Khaleel Kothdiwala May 16, 2020 1:50 PM

    They say that “a little child shall lead them”.

    So your poor “Millsy” the stubborn old donkey is asking a favour from you, the idiot savant riding in the cart of Bajan politics and law.

    Can you, please, confirm if the Bajan Constitution has been amended to recognize and invest with powers the recently established “Protective Services Commission”?

    Please provide the relevant amended sections and provisions in the Constitution to reflect the changes.

    You might not be able to teach an old ‘black’ do new tricks but you can certainly give him a rubber bone to chew on.

  45. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    It is truly amazing that the Man-Chile can say these words

    “…Credibility is important in communication.

    Guyson Mayers has as much moral authority to comment on anything RBPF related as Jack the Ripper has to condemn murder…”

    You really cannot be fvucking serious!!

    You have as your Go-To Lawyer, engaged Ezra Alleyne, THE LAWYER WHO WAS DEBARRED FOR CERTAIN INFELICITIES NOT MANY YEARS AGO.

    The problem with people in general AND THE MAN-CHILE in particular is that you fvuckers forget the wickedness that you have perpetrated upon individuals.

    For example wunna will conveniently forget the School Meals Syrup affair that obtained some years ago when she who is the Right Honourable Prime Minister was not so Honourable

    That is to say that she was not RH Prime Minister at that time albeit a minister

    heheheheheheheheheheheheheh

    But wunna shoople has short convenient memories while the people, even though possessed of the capacity to remember, ARE FOR THE MOST PART SCARED SHITLESS of Mugabe Mottley as well you should be of any dictator

  46. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Let’s for argument sake accept that the PM had the power to create another post of deputy commissioner, she would have to lay the order in the House of Assembly and the Senate. So says the Section 13.(1)(b)of the Public Service Act. However, section 13.(3) says that an order made under section 13.(1) is subject to affirmative resolution.

    Section 41.(6) of the Interpretation Act states:

    “The expression “subject to affirmative resolution” when used in relation to any statutory instrument or statutory document shall mean that such instrument or document shall not come into operation unless and until affirmed by a resolution of each House.”

    I did not make this up. It seems that the PM was unaware of this provision and thinks that she can just make an order whenever she chooses to create jobs for her friends.

  47. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ Millsy

    I am always happy to assist those who are unwilling to answer questions, in the hope that it might foster an appreciation of the virtue of answering simple questions.

    You ask a simple question, but in pursuing this course, I caution you to remember that I was born 16 years ago and not yesterday, so I’m not totally unaware of your intended course of argument. Suffice it to say that it is inadequate to prove whatever point you are trying to make.

    To be courteous, s.91 was amended to reflect the establishment of a new PSC in subsection 1.

    This is as far down this rabbit hole that I am going.

  48. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    I am absolutely certain that the Senate did not debate and pass the resolution to give effect to the order.

  49. Khaleel Kothdiwala Avatar
    Khaleel Kothdiwala

    @ Senator Franklyn

    You make an interesting legal point at 4:29.

    However, I find it surprising to say the least that you would wish to characterise an appointment of a person to a post within the RBPF as “finding jobs for friends”. The events which preceded the disputed creation of the post are clear and continuing to impute ill intent to the post, whether you think it lawful or not, is not only not supported by the facts but it is also tasteless and offensive not so much to the Prime Minister but to all hardworking members of the Force.

  50. Piece the Prophet Avatar
    Piece the Prophet

    Listen to the 1st of the Rented Jackasses Hee Hee speak.

    He says, at 8.53 am on May 16th

    “…I repeat the Nation carried a story a year ago about Williams as a DCOP.

    You heard anything from Verla or the PdP then?

    The AG later in a statement said the Police Act will be amended, no different to what the PM said, though admittedly not in as much detail or forceful as the PM in her response…”

    Wunna hear dat statement by Jackass #1???

    Let me repeat um for both the people AND DE RH SHEEPLE!!!

    “…The AG later in a statement said the Police Act will be amended…”

    Over one RH year ago Teets say dis!!!

    One year ago!

    Yet, dis same RH government meet, in a RH week, and change de constitution to mek two Canadians Rawdone Adams and Kay McConney Senators!

    You understanding de implications of this?

    You see why Mugabe Mottley is a RH despot?

    She is changing the Constitution of Barbados slowly and we, the people, are being told that her Absolute Power devolves therefrom!!!

    So Shut the FVUCK UP!!!

    One morning wunna going wake up to a flag with Mottley Coat of Arms pun it A BITE OUT CLITORIS, and limp doggies with no balls, and going wonder how de RH wunna get in this mess!

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