On the 11 April 2020 Prime Minister Mia Mottley addressed the nation to update on COVID 19. One of the decisions made was to establish a Jobs and Investment Council that includes former ministers of Finance Arthur and Sinckler. She also promised to address Barbadians soon on what an economic plan for the country will look like.
COVID 19 is a pandemic which continues to stymie ALL the economies of the world. Sensible individuals have to admit that it will take a herculean effort by ALL well being Barbadians to push start the economy.
The past is the past.
We are here now.
We have to dust off our backsides and look the future in the eye with conviction.
Let us join hands and show we care about Barbados.
“What need in the country now …“- Mia Mottley
Very informative discussion going on FB. Let the fowl bring another long drawn out cut and paste articule to dispute this too…
“Douglas Trotman His comments supports the view that the cure must not be worse than the disease… he mentions this…as did Donald Trump.
The points on civil liberties have been observed in Barbados, where…there clearly being no law for a 24hr curfew, the police and the AG insists that one exists, when it was only mentioned in a press statement by the PM (Ag)… and has no force of Law.
Furthermore… because our borders are open the best reason to leave home is a visit to the airport or seaport with intention to travel.
We have a Public Health Energency… the AG refers to a State of Emergency…
We have stay at home orders under penalty of imprisonment with advise of how to eash hands.
Where is the advice on a regime of suppliments to help fight/stave off infection?
Where are the recommendation on the healthiest foods to use during this lockdown?
The nutritionists and immunologists among us… can they help at the national level in giving advice which may impact food choices?”
Dr. Dan Erickson of Accelerated Health Care talks about the impact of the Coronavirus on Kern County.
MUST WATCH. The Science, Data & Common Sense.
Miller
So what do you think the amendments are aiming to do, if not speed up trials? I read that judge only trials are coming too. Is this an attempt to breach the Constitution too? When de Mighty Liar in yuh corner be careful because she and logic is an emulsion.
The shoe is on the other foot now
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/28724/blp-column-dlp-bungling
Soldiers from the Barbados Defence Force also responded to the scene of the shooting….(Quote)
So we have normalised para-military policing? Who called out the BDF? Or is so-called joint policing the norm? So Barbados has joined the Latin American school of law and order. Plse remind me, who called Barbados an ongoing democracy?
In support of Enuff, may I point out that the CCJ has recently criticised the Barbados Supreme Court again (albeit in a very different matter) for overly lengthy proceedings.
So it was high time for the government to speed up the process.
In my view, we could go much further. More generally, from a socio-political point of view, we should ask ourselves why we should grant the native masses a multi-stage procedure with all these details at all. I personally prefer a fast-track procedure as in colonial times. In those glorious days, Barbados was much safer and less criminal than today.
The cut and paste artist Fowl Enuff can’t win any argument with seasoned lawyers, WHO HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR SPEEDY court procedures for DECADES…they won’t now be against speedy procedures unless there is something else VERY WRONG fundamentally…
……it’s a commonsense thing, just like simple math, that eludes fowls…
@ Enuff April 26, 2020 2:18 PM
If Wura the Mighty Liar from Salem is in the miller’s corner, then, how would you describe the person in whose corner you obsequiously ‘lie’? The God Almighty of Lies, Queen Dolos?
Well at least Wura, the wicked witch of Salem, never promised to bring justice for Abijah or strutted on an electioneering platform like a peacock carrying a bag of imaginary evidence and promises to lock up all the corrupt political foes who are now her very close bosom buddies.
You just cannot -in the name of the Lord of Integrity on ascending the throne-blame a set of people for the demolition of the country’s economy but then turn around and appoint the same architects to help in its reconstruction as a result of the Covid-19 infestation.
What’s next on your ‘lying’ agenda, Kingmaker Enuff?
The backing of the appointment of Denis de Down low(e) to the Law Reform Committee without having to show his LEC?
You ought to learn to cultivate a modicum of intellectual self-respect and stop performing the role of chief courtier to the regent of deceit and cease playing, on BU, the role of the prince of buffoonery in the court of hypocrisy.
You have lost this fight. Why not return to the Hyatt hotel battleground to see if you can score any brownie points?
Here we go again.
We cannot even call this an anomaly…
the same lawyers who have for decades…VERY PUBLICLY in the media, castigated judges who adjourn cases as a sport for years and years until everyone including themselves DIE OFF….and prosecutors who are never prepared for cases because the files are never ready or have MYSTERIOUSLY DISAPPEARED…are all of a sudden these same lawyers are AGAINST speedy trials…that should not even make sense to a fowl.
yardfowl philosophy ….yo…
@Tron April 26, 2020 4:11 PM
Wasn’t the same (unfulfilled) promise made to the citizens to justify the appointment of the Justice Czars, both current and previous?
How can you speed up (make more efficient) a system riddled with incompetence and controlled by a crop of politically-appointed grandees of legalese with a set of social axes to grind?
You are speaking with a satirically forked tongue today, dear Tron.
The justice system is axiomatic of the crowning example of your much maligned contaminated public service retarding the development of the Bajan society.
Why not consult the ghost of your idol EWB who wisely pointed out this long known fact in his famous outburst of simple truth:
‘If [ordinary] Bajans want justice they must stay away from Coleridge Street (aka the judicial system in Barbados)’.
@plt
was the “evidence within 24 hours”….an admission of “knowledge of contraband” or “ownership of contraband”.
@MTA
what is an “ordinary” Bajan? Or is this like ‘middle class’.
….even worse the same lazy judges ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to give judgements in cases for one corrupt reason or another, MANY YEARS LATER still no judgement…….
….we just had CCJ not even 2 weeks ago publicly accusing Worrell of refusing to give a judgement in an ongoing case that should have been given 4 YEARS AGO..
….reserved judgements are supposed to be given within a 6 month period…and they just don’t do it because they believe themselves all powerful and untouchable……a well known corrupt judiciary…
so we know there is much more to this and with the fowl crawling around ya done know lies and cover up abound…problem is, we are not the ones to convince…
We all know that it is not certain laws but behaviour that characterises civilisation.
Developing countries often have much more modern laws than developed countries. Nevertheless, the legal system in developing countries is widely dysfunctional.
Why is this so? It is because of the DNA of the respective culture. In almost all developing countries there is a tacit social consensus that corruption should not be prosecuted. It would therefore be a waste of time in Barbados, too, to hope for something better with new integrity and transparency legislation.
We all know that the numerous reform commissions are nothing but gossip circles in which too much rum is served. Decisions are rarely taken, and even less implemented or executed. It is just the national culture of Barbados to believe that problems can be solved by talking. Hell will freeze over sooner than Barbados will solve its problems.
Singapore is an exception, because there a quasi-dictatorship has used the whip to drive out tribal ways of thinking.
Last comment @ Miller April 26, 2020 4:57 PM
@ NorthernObserver April 26, 2020 5:02 PM
Instead of the “man on the omnibus to the Clapham Common” let’s settle for the man (or woman) on the ZR van to Silver Sands.
We now have 24,000 new unemployed people, in addition to those registered before March 2020. I see a clear upward trend, with an estimated 40,000 new unemployed. In any case, we will exceed the 1992 record.
The question is how the government will deal with the fact that we have 30,000 well-fed and highly paid civil servants with a prospect of very high pensions, facing a large army of unemployed people at the subsistence level. If the winter tourist season is cancelled, there will be a big bang.
My advice, therefore, is to let the Corona flu be a normal illness like all the others. A dozen dead people who would have died soon anyway because of their morbid condition does not justify driving a whole country to the wall.
I therefore very much welcome the government policy of lifting the lockdown as soon as possible and allowing tourists back into the country.
“long drawn out cut and paste articule”
Don’t blame the author of the article for your limited attention span and inability to read and synthesise a cogent, well-researched, evidence-based article. Once again you’ve been exposed as a parrot; and you believe (falsely) that by mentioning another blogger in your post it becomes credible. You’re talking a lotta RH. Don’t even know what was amended. Read more, think more and talk/cut&paste less. 🦜🦜
Miller
You may obfuscate with your verbosity. The point remains that you have not shown how an amendment to the Evidence Act to bring it inline with other Commonwealth jurisdictions, including the act’s original reference, has infringed on anyone’s Constitutional right or shows that the government is using the curfew to behave dictatorial. You may continue to beat your Hyatt horse. The horses I am familiar with are bigger and involve real, real investors and real, real money. Like I have said to you on numerous occassions direct your Hyatt queries to the relevant persons, not me.
@MTA
Thanks. I see it written regularly. I will expand that to Bajans who use public transport.
“Don’t blame the author of the article for your limited attention span and inability to read and synthesise a cogent, well-researched, evidence-based article. ”
Well, that was certainly a waste of ya typing skills…because I DID NOT EVEN READ THE ARTICLE, why would i waste my precious time, WHILE KNOWING thst the corrupt judiciary in Barbados needs a COMPLETE OVERHAUL……no amount of cutting and pasting articles….FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS can fix the corruption that has completely destroyed the integrity of the court systemfor so many decades that it NO LONGER FUNCTIONS…..until that overhaul is done…nothing matters and nothing will work…no matter which jurisdiction it’s copied from…comprendre
Proof beyond doubt of what we have been saying for years….NEVER be a yardfowl to any mediocre, small time, vote begging politician(s), it is an ugly, demeaning, degrading job.
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@ Enuff April 26, 2020 8:29 PM
How many times have such highfalutin claims been made about bringing legislation in line with other jurisdictions but the lethargy of a clogged-up class bias criminal justice system still prevails.
Even the circuit court of the E.C. with it limited human resources does a more effective job at jurisprudence than the obese sloth Bajans have to put up with.
When are you going to call for a similar ‘shake-up’ when it comes to civil matters where cases can linger as long as 10 years without a judgement many of which are easily appealed.
It is not so much the lack of or the inadequacy in the existing legislation but one of professional competence and commitment.
Do you really feel that the oversized and overpopulated legal fraternity in Bim want to see an efficient judicial system in operation?
How then would the slackers justify their high fees and dismissive treatment of their clients?
Have you ever heard the saying: ‘Too many cooks spoil the broth’?
But there must be some ray of hope on the legal horizon with the presence of one of BU’s doyens now sitting on the ‘high ‘bench prepared to convert this theoretical know-how into practical excellence.
It is good to see you have finally come to the stark realization that Hyatt is and was nothing more that a dead horse which only a jackass punter like you would back in the first place.
Last week you were proposing a stimulus package of the local construction makeover variety.
Now you are recommending big projects backed by your international friends of “real real investors” with “real real money”
When are you going to bring some of those big name horses you are familiar with to run on the investment track in Bim now badly in need of some high class pedigree instead of the local same old one-trick ponies now lying idle in the Baloney & conmen stables?
How about finding an immediate replacement for Ross-U-Bim?
For over 800 years in our common law system an accused had the right to be tried by a jury of his/her peers. Anything that impedes that right, or weakens the case of the accused, is a deprivation of that right.
But even this system has flaws: an all-white jury trying a black lad for an alleged mugging is clearly not a jury of his peers. And, even worse, a judge-only court is a betrayal of everything we have fought for over our history.
We cannot allow book keepers and men in pinstripe suits to time cases or put a maximum cost on them. It is not a binary thing, a yes or no, right or wrong, either or. It is simply WRONG.
Any changes must be agreed by the society, not by a few top people; it is better that 100 guilty men go free than a single innocent woman or man is convicted. That is the principle of a liberal democracy.
Some Barbadians may think it is better to hang 100 innocent men than to let a single guilty one go free. A robe and a collar do not make an incompetent competent or someone who has learned by rote a critical thinker. Nor does a diploma make a dumbo clever.
That is the Barbadian Condition.
https://youtu.be/Rhcrbcg8HBw
Thanks Bentley.
Miller…first time in my life i ever heard that ya treat a cancerous, MAGGOTS infected wound aka the judiciary…, without treating it, without cauterizing the DISEASED AREAS and expect it to get better/heal..
@ David April 27, 2020 6:32 AM
An excellent presentation of the stark economic realities facing mankind today.
We have reached the outer band of the Pareto optimality zone of economic growth.
Mother Nature has started to fight back.
The future is not one for the present breed of economists but of thinkers with the minds of entrepreneurs geared not to exploit Mother Nature for maximum material profit but to nurture her denizens.
The good lady reminds one of the New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern; a person of strong political leadership worthy of emulation by those closer to home especially in this time of crisis management.
@Miller
Agree and the message is consistent with what some of us have been preaching on BU for over a decade. Focusing on the symptoms makes for good copy and sound bites. Hopefully Covid 19 the great disruptor will hurry the mindset change that is urgently required in our people.
Should we be optimistic? Will we see the emergence of a new WI politician prepared to suppress an inherent desire to be popular for sake of country? For the sake of a supporting a sustainable standard of living?
@David April 27, 2020 6:32 AM
I am hoping that all of our three Ministers of Finance are reading Kate Raworth’s book.
@Peter
The challenge for our politicians is the will to detach from established ways of doing things. All politicians have a single objective, to maintain popularity with constituents. The days of old when politicians were driven by a burning desire to serve people has faded. Today’s politician is doing a job, to be paid.
@ PLT
Are you a Kate Raworth fan?
@ David,
You could start a new post to discuss Reforming the Barbados Justice system.
@Hants
Thanks for the suggestion. As you know it is an issue we have discussed many times on BU pages.
The challenge for our politicians is the will to detach from established ways of doing things. All politicians have a single objective, to maintain popularity with constituents. The days of old when politicians were driven by a burning desire to serve people has faded. Today’s politician is doing a job, to be paid.(Quote)
Discuss
Is it time to discuss reopening of businesses in Barbados?
CANADA
Residents of Canada’s two largest provinces are expected to learn this week what the path to a new normal might look like when the governments of Ontario and Quebec unveil their initial plans for reopening their locked-down economies.
PLT,
I prefer Ayn Rand to make the lazy slackers run. Barbados is a socialist nightmare.
Tron
“I DID NOT EVEN READ THE ARTICLE”
Well you’ve just confirmed what I posted. You didn’t read the article, you haven’t read the amendment and you haven’t read the original Act. So how are you making an informed comment? You must be a parrot. Hence my advice: read more! The long delays in trials did not start with the curfew, there can therefore be no correlation.🦜🦜🤣🤣
Fowl Enuff….it does not matter…no amount of amendments, original acts or precedents will CHANGE THE FACT….that the judiciary is CORRUPT…with the same MAGGOTS in control and polluting everything, as they have for DECADES …nothing will change unless the CORRUPTION IS EXCISED…
which part of that is so hard for the FOWL TO UNDERSTAND…
you are going NOWHERE with amendments and acts or any new policies …AS LONG AS CORRUPTION AND THE CORRUPT STILL RULES the court system..
..no wonder many believe that Black people can learn nothing, you are the original EXAMPLE…
Told ya already, we are not the ones to convince of anything, it’s the same lawyers who are NOT PLEASED who must now be appeased because they saw a nasty move coming from the wannabe dicktatorship of sweeping powers…..none of that impacts me, cause ya done know if it did yall would be all over FB…
Miller
Since the current administration came to office, more judges, public prosecutors and legal staff in the office of DPP have been hired; more courts have been created; and, additional ways to swear affidavits established. You and others can should search for more. Of the 140 or so bills laid in the house since May 2018, about 10 (or 7%) are related to justice and the courts. This works out at about one new justice-related bill every 2.3 months. Now keep in mind that 2018 and 2019 were dominated with debt restructuring, offshore sector compliance and other economic related matters. Don’t forget there are also many other ministries and they too would need bills drafted, laid and debated. Now you and BU can decide if it is just hot air. Your capitulation is evident for all to see.
@ Enuff April 27, 2020 10:54 AM
Enuff,
It is quite true that you have achieved a lot. More than Wrathbaite, anyway.
The problem is that many lawyers are not equal to efficiency. What is still missing, is a slave driver who is after everyone with a whip and relentlessly drives them to work from 7 AM to 6 PM.
At least they can’t say they are not getting any help with the hardest part..
“The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) through its #Caribbean Regional Office in Kingston, Jamaica, is providing US$3 million to Barbados, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago and the CARPHA Caribbean Public Health Agency to boost its capacity to support countries of the Eastern Caribbean.
The nearly US$1 million for CARPHA and the Eastern Caribbean, including $400,000 for Barbados, will fund infection prevention, laboratory systems and supplies including testing kits and swabs, and staffing and data management at quarantine and isolation facilities. The CDC will work with the individual Ministries of Health as well as regional partners including CARPHA and PAHO for the immediate implementation of this critical support.
@ Enuff April 27, 2020 10:54 AM
You have painted a picture representing just another classic case of GIGO!
The passing of more laws is going to do not even diddly squat; just create a heavier backlog of cases in the current system which cannot even deal with the present workload.
Do you really feel that throwing more money / resources is going to solve the problem plaguing the judicial system in Bim?
Man, you have a management problem on your hands.
The mindset of the players have to be refocused to perform at the professional level.
Why not ask your ex-Bermuda Judge mate what really is the fundamental problem?
Let’s see if the reference to education can be of some assistance in getting you to understand the gravamen of the problem facing the current administration:
It’s akin to trying to mitigate the poor performance of secondary school students at the CXC level by giving the University more money while ignoring the quality of teaching and learning at the Primary schools.
Stop trying to build a wooden structure on land infested with termites which the builder refuses to treat.
Miller,
It is obvious that Barbadian schoolchildren are not among the top performers in the region. They are too lazy and too unwilling. This problem continues later in professional life.
Exceptions confirm the rule. There once was this magistrate who became a judge in Bahamas/Bermuda(?). He would never have become Chief Justice in Barbados, because he works too efficiently.
As I said before, in Barbados in the public service, the only thing that helps is the whip in the form of a roaring boss in public, bastinadoes, running the gauntlet and dismissing subordinates without notice.
@ Tron
Barbadian school children are not among the top performers in CARICOM. Every year the CXC announces a top school. Why don’t our newspapers publish the award winners?
Every year they send the exam results of individual schools to the ministry, why doesn’t the ministry of education publish the figures? Is it because they will show that some of our so-called top schools are not as good as we think they are? In the 1960s they used to publish them, even of individual students.
Instead of improving standards we want to ban the 11+. Dumbing down.
Miller
“Do you really feel that throwing more money / resources is going to solve the problem plaguing the judicial system in Bim?”
You are clearly grasping and frankly engaging in sophistry. Your initial argument was that the government was merely making promises. Now you’re shifting the argument again. So instead of wasting my time with a slitherer, I will end by saying that when seeking to improve efficiency, people, process/governance and technology are the focus. I agree resources and law reform etc alone will not solve the issues; but equally the issues can’t be solved without adequate resources, technology and processes either. You can’t clear a backlog of over 1,000 cases with 2 High Court judges, even if they deliver their written judgements in 2 months.
In addition to Enuff, I would like to point out that the government has made a sincere effort to recruit distinguished individuals with a good track record as new judges. Under AG Wrathbate only the blue party membership counted, so that today the positions of some justices, the DPP and the registry are filled with figures who are unsuitable for these positions (well, Enuff would NEVER say or write that so directly, but he may THINK so, LOL).
We would therefore be doing our leader Mia Mottley a great injustice if we were to accuse her of inaction or failure. The government is making every effort here. However, gov obviously has to fight against great structural resistance from personnel from the time of OSA and Frundel “Jerry”.
Apart from that, the Supreme Court lacks a slave driver at the top, who now and then screams through the corridors, sets up a strict work schedule and runs through the courthouse with his stopwatch. If the Supreme Court acted as Amazon’s management does, each file would take only three hours to process, not three years.
Miller…once again…Black face government nastiness in majority black socities REARS it’s evil, ugly, backward head and is being EXPOSED….
first…the uneducated fowls want to keep construction company owning minority PARASITES, FRAUDS and THIEVES as WELFARE RECIPIENTS living off the backs of the black majority, their tax dollars and pensions…..PERMANENTLY..as parasites are well known to do….and the ignorant support it.
second….the same uneducated, commonsense lacking fowls…thinks it’s a great idea of genieass proportions to implement more policies, laws, this and that…in THE SAME CORRUPT JUDICIARY…and all to be implemented by the SAME CORRUPT JUDICIAL OFFICERS..,and other crooks…without FIRST RIDDING the taxpayer funded court system…OF ALL OF THEM because there is NO CURE for selfish, self-absorbed CORRUPT MINDS…dumb asses abound.
now this:
All of them already sold out to privately owned clinics and mini hospitals FOR THEIR SHARE/CUT…ask Jerome and Donville….in Donville’s case, it is said he even had the balls to use taxpayer’s money in the Sparman and the one now in the parliament known as Dr. Death’s privately run entities.. it is said Jerome sold out QEH and all it’s future development to the Harris family for either 3% or 5% share in Diagnostic Clinic in Beckles Rd.. that is what, it is said, contributed to its now horrible state….and Donville finished it off…the black face traitors, except for Donville, he still got a date….. will soon be coming around your houses again begging for votes…they will not be so FAKE honorable and UPPITY then because they are merely VOTE BEGGARS………MAKE THEM CRAWL…KICK THEM OUT.
“Healthcare biased against blacks – doctor – by Marlon Madden April 28, 2020
Barbados and other Caribbean countries are being urged to come up with solutions to adequately tackle issues that predominantly affect blacks during a health pandemic.
In addition, Dr Kenneth Connell, Clinical Pharmacology lecturer at the University of the West Indies (UWI), Cave Hill Campus, said academics will need to play a greater role and residents should hold governments more accountable.”
Dude is 4 months late to this party, scientists have EXPRESSED CONCERNS about asymptomatic persons spreading the plague, in super spreader style…since back in January, he needs to catch up fast….it’s nothing new in the wider world and was addressed months ago…hence the need for wider testing,
https://barbadostoday.bb/2020/04/28/asymptomatic-individuals-concerns-czar/
https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/245231/nab-staff-family-quarantine
let’s hope it did not get into the nursing homes.
“Following the identification of the cluster of cases at the National Assistance Board, the Ministry of Health & Wellness has, through contact tracing, identified 110 persons including the entire staff at the Country Road Office and their families who will go into mandatory quarantine at designated hotels. The period of quarantine will be 14 days from last exposure to a positive case – which for this group was 23 April, 2020.”
Well i remember we got CUSSED for saying this Miller…then the RETARDS turned around and cussed us for saying ya left the ports open for any and every plague infected tourists etc to walk in and infect everyone, but closed the supermarkets THAT SOLD FOOD….there was hell to force them to be reopened, then like true new negros got the nerve to be looking for hero worship and false praise too….lol
and from what someone just told me, still actively trolling the world to get attention and primetime spots so they can BE SEEN WORLDWIDE …AFTER making a total ass of themselves INTERNATIONALLY….
we just can’t make any of this idiocy up…
“As Barbados continues to grapple with trying to halt the spread of the deadly COVID-19 virus, the Assistant Dean of an emerging offshore medical school here has slammed the Government for “failing to protect” the island’s borders immediately after the first cases were identified in mid-March.
Patricia Inniss, a biochemist and former head of the Barbados Water Authority’s (BWA) Wastewater Division today accused the Government of dropping the ball when it kept allowing people to enter the country, particularly non-residents.
Inniss, who preferred not to name her employer at this stage, is adamant that while the borders needed to be kept open for trade, only persons who live here should have been allowed in and all of them should have been quarantined.”
Yea because a disgruntled former political opponent of the PM is a good source for an unbiased opinion, written by Emmanuel Joseph. Her expertise is not epidemiology or public health; but I wonder what she knows about ball dropping and sewage on the south coast few years ago.🤣🤣
@ Enuff April 29, 2020 7:04 AM
Good defence there, Enuff!
Keep it up.
You are on good solid ground even if you are ‘wasting’ your time on a past pot of incompetents who are calling the current kettle ‘black’ (except the muted Stinkliar).
That recent DLP administration was facing a bogus endemic enemy created by them and which they could see but refused to stop it from getting out of hand.
The present administration has no such luxury of seeing what the country, and indeed the world, is up against.
At least the current administration has been smart enough to get its ministers to don their masks instead of their TinTin looking swimsuits to dive into floating jobby.