Barbados Gone Dark

The following is a statement issued by the MD of Barbados Light & Power a few minutes ago. Prime Minister Mia Mottley has demanded a meeting with the Chairman of EMERA this evening.

Several stories have been floating about social media in the last 24 hours, BU will stay with the official positions issued by the BL&P for the moment.


Roger Blackman, Managing Director of BLPC

The Barbados Light & Power Company Limited (BLPC) wishes to update Barbadians on the electricity outages that have occurred this week. We recognise that this affects our nation’s productivity and ability to serve your own customers and clients. For this, we sincerely apologise and wish to assure you that we are taking this very seriously. Our teams are assiduously working to bring full restoration back to our island.
BLPC uses Heavy Fuel Oil to produce electricity to meet the needs of our customers. At present, we are experiencing a Heavy Fuel Oil quality issue, which has been plaguing us for an extended period. The presence of contaminants detected in the Heavy Fuel Oil is the main cause of the challenges we are experiencing.
The outage events which occurred this week are extraordinary events originating with a switch failure in one of our Spring Garden substations, and during that restoration process, a second event occurred on Tuesday morning with a fault on one of our generating units. In both cases system protection response is being investigated.
Over the past few months, to compound the restoration and supply issues, we have been investigating oil quality issues which are prematurely damaging equipment used to feed oil to our generating units. At present, generating units that we would normally rely on to supply electricity demand have periodically been shutting down due to the fuel issues and this has slowed the pace of restoration.
We are working with our fuel supplier and other stakeholders to hone in upon the specific cause and source of potential contamination from their suppliers, which is ongoing. We have been staying ahead of these issues while we completed other maintenance and repairs to the remainder of our generating fleet, however, this week highlighted the challenge we have been working through to prevent such an event from occurring.
We wish to thank you for your patience, support and encouraging words as we work through this period. We are meeting with the Prime Minister, other Government officials and the Barbados Water Authority this evening to give a comprehensive update and to provide an update on our status and plans going forward to resolve our challenges. We will of course keep you updated of any significant changes as things evolve.
The Chairman of our Board Rick Janega from Emera is on island and will be a part of the meeting with government.

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  • Over the past few months, to compound the restoration and supply issues, we have been investigating oil quality issues which are prematurely damaging equipment used to feed oil to our generating units. At present, generating units that we would normally rely on to supply electricity demand have periodically been shutting down due to the fuel issues and this has slowed the pace of restoration
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    David do u understand what that means

    I gave the analogy of pumping low grade gas into a car that calls for higher grade

    It Therfore begs the question why were bl&p using oil that compromise their generators

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  • @ Mariposa

    Hush yuh mout.

    You is DLP.

    You ain’t suppose to ask so many questions.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @a statement issued by the MD of Barbados Light & Power “We wish to thank you for your patience, support and encouraging words as we work through this period.”

    Don’t thank us as we are NOT patient, supportive, nor encouraging. We simply want our electricity back. No lotta long talk. In addition once the electricity fails, the water fails, so I am still without running water, and will run out of my “hurricane” supply of stored water by noon on Wednesday. I am old, and like most Bajans i don’t own a car nor a generator, nor a monster sized water tank, because I can’t afford such, I have no idea where the nearest standpipe is, so what am I supposed to do while Light and Power talks? And tobesides I don’t owe Light and Power a single cent.

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  • Does the FTC have an opinion on this?

    Is the FTC planning to seek an independent report on the reasons behind the dismal performance of the BLP?

    After all no fish seller ever say their fish was stale yet!

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  • THE BIBLE SAYS THAT DURING THE CRUCIFIXION THAT THERE WAS DARKNESS OVER ALL THE LAND

    NOW THAT MIA MUGABE MAO MOCKLEY CRUCIFYING BARBADOS THERE IS DARKNESS OVER ALL THE LAND OF BARBADOS

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  • … and then there is the issue of water!!

    All the electricity in the world with no water is another symptom of our malaise.

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  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    I doubt that this has anything to do with Jesus or his crucifixion, or the Bible or anything so.

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  • Great opportunity to pressure BL&P & Govt to go with clean energy

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  • Why do we continue to use dirty fuels like Bunker C Oil?

    Why Hemp Biodiesel?

    Biodiesel is the only alternative fuel that runs in any conventional, unmodified diesel engine.
    It can be stored anywhere that petroleum diesel fuel is stored. Biodiesel is safe to handle and transport because it is as biodegradable as sugar, 10 times less toxic than table salt, and has a high flashpoint of about 300 F compared to petroleum diesel fuel, which has a flash point of 125 F.
    Biodiesel can be made from domestically produced, renewable oilseed crops such as hemp.
    Biodiesel is a proven fuel with over 30 million successful US road miles, and over 20 years of use in Europe.
    When burned in a diesel engine, biodiesel replaces the exhaust odor of petroleum diesel with the pleasant smell of hemp, popcorn or french fries.
    Biodiesel is the only alternative fuel in the US to complete EPA Tier I Health Effects Testing under section 211(b) of the Clean Air Act, which provide the thorough inventory of environmental and human health effects attributes that current technology will allow.
    Biodiesel is 11% oxygen by weight and contains no sulfur.
    The use of biodiesel can extend the life of diesel engines because it is more lubricating than petroleum diesel fuel, while fuel consumption, auto ignition, power output, and engine torque are relatively unaffected by biodiesel.
    The Congressional Budget Office, Department of Defense, US Department of Agriculture, and others have determined that biodiesel is the low cost alternative fuel option for fleets to meet requirements of the Energy Policy Act.

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  • Water back on … had a shower …. return to civilization!!

    Will figure out a simple fix to get around no electricity and no water and still get a shower, do laundry and have all sanitary needs net.

    Might go the whole hog and rely on rainfall and sunshine if situation continues which it sounds as though it might.

    Got a simple idea that should work that involves gravity and is cheap.

    The Supplier is 100% reliable.

    … and here comes a little rain to give me a nudge.

    Bliss!!

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  • RE THE BIBLE SAYS THAT DURING THE CRUCIFIXION THAT THERE WAS DARKNESS OVER ALL THE LAND

    NOW THAT MIA MUGABE MAO MOCKLEY CRUCIFYING BARBADOS THERE IS DARKNESS OVER ALL THE LAND OF BARBADOS

    I doubt that this has anything to do with Jesus or his crucifixion, or the Bible or anything so.

    THIS IS CALLED AN ANALOGY DUMMY!
    YOU MUST ALWAYS PICK WILTS!

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  • When burned in a diesel engine, biodiesel replaces the exhaust odor of petroleum diesel with the pleasant smell of hemp, popcorn or french fries.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Might not need a referendum.

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  • @ John A November 19, 2019 10:06 PM
    “Does the FTC have an opinion on this?
    Is the FTC planning to seek an independent report on the reasons behind the dismal performance of the BLP?
    After all no fish seller ever say their fish was stale yet!”
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    The hard game being played is called pulling the balls of the FTC in its ‘delaying’ need to grant an Emera-determined increase in electricity rates in a consumer market which is not growing but still operating in a contracting [but] still high-cost economy.

    The state of play is simply one of:
    No Emera parent company approval of the major Capex now needed to replace those cranky old turbines which have long past their ‘useful’ economic lives or, as euphemistically stated, “long past their retirement age”.

    Emera would not be investing in any ‘new’ dirty old fossil fuel dependent power-generating technology unless there is a significantly satisfactory increase in rates big enough to recoup its investment over a much reduced time horizon in light of the expanding alternative energy (AE) competition along with the climate change (CC) political agenda and a stagnant economy.

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  • Who heard the Prime Minister made a veil reference to the fact renewal of license is currently been negotiated between government and BL&P? The other notable mention is that she instructed Minister Caddle who is meeting with the IADB to request technical expertise to provide support on the best power generation design for Barbados.

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  • Still no water over 24 hours later in some areas, the heights included..

    who is to blame for that..

    both BLP and Emera knew for over a decades that their old tired low speed diesel p lant wanted changing, their intent is to make Bajans pay for it…KICK THEM OFF THE ISLAND…nationalize the plant and not to any minority thieves and crooks either..

    stop allowing greedy foreign companies to hold the island and people to ransom, get them out.

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  • CORRECTION..

    both BL&P and Emera knew for well over a decade that their DECREPIT low speed diesel generators needed throwing in the dump…

    don’t want to blame BLP innocently, it was a mistake, before the fowls jump out.

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  • To whom it may concern.
    This is a wonderful opportunity for Barbardians to provide for themselves. If you go on the Chinese website Alibaba you can purchase a complete 4KW (adequate for a family of 4)photovoltaic solar system that will allow you not to pay a single cent to an energy provider. The costs vary but you can purchase a system for as little as £3000.
    You will have to reduce your electricity demand but you will not be supporting a foreign energy provided.
    There is so much information out there. Simple Simon if you do your research you will be surprised.

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  • I like Roger a lot , but he should never allow LYING EMERA to use him like that.

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  • There is enough blame to go around here but the least of it lies with the Mottley administration and the contaminated fuel. The most of it lies with EMERA which is contracted to provide a reliable flow of electricity.

    If they knew that the Cahill project was not going to provide electricity they should have ignored the damned corrupt government and planned as though their words were hot air.

    They advised the government that such a project had never worked ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD and then proceeded to plan their business activities as though it had.

    Mia hit the nail on the head. How on earth could all their thirty year life span engines be at the end of their life at the same time???? The Cahill fiasco was just a few years ago and so this was a problem existing before that time. Did not the FTC keep track of these things???????

    This signs were there for a long time. I hope Barbados has learnt a lesson. Problems seldom, if ever, fix themselves.

    I believe that we will come out of this experience better prepared.

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  • “They advised the government that such a project had never worked ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD and then proceeded to plan their business activities as though it had”

    they should know that lie will only fly with yardfowls..

    Should be coming out of this mess…on FULL SOLAR POWER…no more wicked foreign companies with their ulterior motives of robbing everybody and giving the island bad service to please their investors and shareholders…the goddamn nerve of Emera..

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  • Miller,

    When Emera purchased the BL & P they would have known the state of play. They knew that we were heading towards renewable energy. They knew the plant and equipment would need to be replaced. It is indeed obvious that they want to make us pay for it up front. I say we have been tricked before. Let us see the equipment first! Let us see the improved service first!

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  • If the situation was not so dire, it would be laughable as one watches the blame-game evolve. In any manufacturing enterprise, be it the production of electricity or the manufacture of hams, one is taught that the implementation of a preventative quality control program is a prerequisite for successful production. The control program can be the hazard analysis critical control point (HACCP) or programs such as the ISO 9000.
    When ordering supplies under HACCP, the buyer instructs the supplier of the product specifications required and outlines the conditions under which acceptance or rejection of the supplies will occur. An in-house sampling acceptance program must be initiated by the buyer On receipt of the raw material, the quality control in-plant officer, checks the documentation which accompanies the raw material to ensure that product specifications are met.To ensure product specifications have been met ,the buyer either utilizes his in-house laboratory to ascertain that the specification have been met, or if there are.no in-house facilities, out sourcing is done. This is standard operating procedure(SOP). It is at this stage that the buyer’s quality control officer is in a position to accept or reject outright. In other words, if HACCP or ISO 9000 conditions are enforced, there will be no need to play the blame-game, since adulterated raw materials are excluded from the production line. Let me repeat, under HACCP/ISO 9000 conditions, the onus is on the buyer/producer to ensure that there is no adulterated products entering the plant.
    Then there is also least-cost formulation.This is done in all manufacturing enterprises: the name tells it all. An expensive input is replaced by a cheaper one and reformulation done so as to mimic the product which contained the more expensive input. Blending varying amounts of the replacement (inferior product) into the formulation is done, until a stage is reached ,where the new formulation appears to be similar to the original product. In such cases, there may occur a reduction in the quality of the product which can cause problems..

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  • Ah guess Caswell has his own take on things too…and he is right, trying to remember if i heard this, sell happy Mia did this. These clowns who have low intellect SELL EVERYTHING..they sell out the people constantly…Bajans have to watch out that they themselves are not only sold out as is the norm…BUT SOLD TOO…when these fools are overly desperate for money…

    If Mia does not nationalize the company…it will get even worse, you sold ya shares dumbass ….YOU HAVE NO SAY…nationalize and bid Emera… adieu….

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/11/20/franklin-blame-govts-light-power-sale/?fbclid=IwAR2Jy95ZIjIU7SAjej_11Qd1l80MuyFbicV1TwcK4tgG_gEqH4H0zgr35ts

    “An outspoken legislator has blamed Government for selling its shares in Emera, the Canadian-based parent of the Barbados Light & Power Company Limited (BL&P), saying Barbadians are now paying the price with a rash of power cuts.

    As the outages severely disrupt life and productivity across the island, Opposition Senator Caswell Franklyn said the Mia Mottley administration made a big mistake when it sold its shares in the BL&P.

    He told Barbados TODAY this afternoon: “Emera is about itself and profit, it doesn’t care about the people of Barbados.

    “They refused to invest in upgrading the [local] company and now they blaming aging equipment for contributing to the power outages.

    “They also went and bought the cheapest fuel they could find on the market…even the contaminated one and blaming that too.”

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  • “The control program can be the hazard analysis critical control point (HACCP) or programs such as the ISO 9000.”

    the then BL&P company has been ISO compliant for over a decade…if they bought substandard fuel is because they NEVER DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE and testing …a VIOLATION of their ISO standing and they should LOSE IT.

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  • She now has no choice..

    “He said: “In the same way [Government] bought out Mrs Ram’s [Asha Mirchandani] Liquidation Centre, the Government now needs to rethink its Emera interest.

    “It needs to look at ways to repatriate Emera and put back the BL&P in the hands of the people of Barbados.”

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  • If you go on the Chinese website Alibaba you can purchase a complete 4KW (adequate for a family of 4)photovoltaic solar system that will allow you not to pay a single cent to an energy provider. The costs vary but you can purchase a system for as little as £3000.

    “Should be coming out of this mess…on FULL SOLAR POWER…”

    Not wanting to rain on the parade, but:

    Solar Panels Produce Tons Of Toxic Waste—Literally

    Beyond the inefficient use of these resources to begin with (in the process of making crystalline silicon from silicon, as much as 80 percent of the raw silicon is lost), there are numerous human health concerns directly related to the manufacture and disposal of solar panels.

    According to cancer biologist David H. Nguyen, PhD, toxic chemicals in solar panels include cadmium telluride, copper indium selenide, cadmium gallium (di)selenide, copper indium gallium (di)selenide, hexafluoroethane, lead, and polyvinyl fluoride. Silicon tetrachloride, a byproduct of producing crystalline silicon, is also highly toxic.

    snip

    In one 2003 study, researchers drew attention to the fact that cadmium is the benefactor of special environmental treatment, which allows solar energy to be more economically efficient (as far as that word quite applies to solar energy even in the current state of subsidization). They wrote:

    If they were classified as “hazardous” according to Federal or State criteria, then special requirements for material handling, disposal, record keeping, and reporting would escalate the cost of decommissioning.

    This mirrors an answer given by Cara Libby, Senior Technical Leader of Solar Energy at the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI), who admits that there is no lucrative amount of salvageable parts on any type of solar panel.

    In Europe, we’ve seen that when it’s mandated, it gets done. Either it becomes economical or it gets mandated. But I’ve heard that it will have to be mandated because it won’t ever be economical.

    She adds:

    In Europe, we’ve seen that when it’s mandated, it gets done. Either it becomes economical or it gets mandated. But I’ve heard that it will have to be mandated because it won’t ever be economical.

    It is no wonder that Chinese factories, when confronted with the exorbitant costs (both financial and environmental) of decomposing solar panel chemicals properly, prefer to release them into the environment rather than dispose of them in an environmentally safe manner.

    https://www.naturalblaze.com/2019/11/solar-panels-produce-tons-of-toxic-waste-literally.html

    Humans always pinning their hopes on the next “free” technological lunch. Could you imagine a Barbados filled with rooftop solar cells hit by a natural disaster which destroys large numbers of these solar cells all at once? There is a strong likelihood (or more likely inevitability) that nuff, nuff broken solar panels would end up in the local garbage dump, not to mention the gullies and the ditches of our back roads and cart tracks to leak out their chemical poisons into the aquifer for the Lord only knows how long. And never mind a natural disaster, what provision are being made right now to handle the normal decommissioning of the growing numbers of toxic solar cells at the end of their natural 20 year life span – other than dropping them into the hole in the ground up by Mount Stinekeroo, or applying our typical Bajan, “don’t-give-a-sh1t, drop-um-in-a-gully-if-um-brek” disposal handling often applied to used appliances, mattresses, broken furniture etc?

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  • Of recent barbadians were not complaining about the high energy bills
    Many were saying that the bills were not increasing as previous years
    The evident for these bills now lies in the fact that Emera was relying on low grade fuel and aged equipment to keep the bills lower
    Barbadians want to have their bottle and spoon and not pay for either which will not happen in the world of commerce
    When a business spend to improve for quality
    The customer will share with the quality as well with the monetary cost for the improvement
    Emera statement yesterday and the terrible melt down. bodes well to say that Emera would now be forced to improve the quality of their service and barbadians would have to foot the bill

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  • @Donna

    Before the topic is derailed let us focus on your comment which is critical to understanding the level of thinking/planning by BL&P supported by government. Given the nascent technology of plasma gasification, the quality of the CAHILL agreement, the elapse time since the agreement fell through based on the collapse of the plant with a similar design in the UK – also the litigation surrounding the biomass plant planned for Andrews location, have we heard about alternative plans to support the point Dr. Lucas is also made above. Where is the redundancy planning? There is the old saying if the head bad then you are bound to have a problem.

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  • What the conference showed last night is that the FTC is a waste of time.

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  • Barbadian leaders are not visionaries
    Also one would find that a mindset held among barbadians says if it is not broken leave it that is until a problem occurs and then hell breaks loose
    When the idea of plasma gastification plant was thrown into the political circle all hell broke loose by present govt
    Now the old tired way of doing things raised its ugly head and the ole goats and lip service knee jerk thinkers have nothing else planned to correct a problem that will continue until Emera finds a feasible solution
    What does govt have in mind as an alternative
    Absolutely nothing
    This is the same govt who knew how plasma gastufication would destroy barbados but did not have the knowledge or understanding that an aging plant could not withstand cheap fuel and provide good service to a country long term
    Now David u can pout all u want
    Where there is no vision the people would perish

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  • @ Green Monkey,
    This is the price that we pay for living in a technological advanced world. One solution would be to reduce the amount of energy that we consume and living as our grandparents would have. The first time I went to Barbados I remember well my grandparents using candles. It is down to the individual to make that choice.

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  • @ David
    I have a post above that, from a purely technical aspects explains what is what. Only one person(WURA-WAR-on-U) seems to understand the import of it. Doesn’t say much for this country.

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  • Correction ” technical aspect explains…..

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  • Enough blame to go around but doesnt govt have measures or rules out in place which will guarantee that when products enter the country they meet a specific standard
    Or is it left up to the business owner to test and supply the quality for the country
    I take note that in other countries such a procedure of govt having an hands on approach to quality standards which would be of service to the consumer is standard procedure
    One would think that a service provider like BL&P would be under the watchful eye of govt to protect the country from catastrophic melt downs

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  • https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geK.PjI9VdaKwALxhXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg–/RV=2/RE=1574278244/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fnews.energysage.com%2fsolar-panels-hail-hurricanes%2f/RK=2/RS=KffivOiJxqlsopMDFFmS4Ku0VPY-

    Normally when people design these inventions…they do so with the INTENT to UPGRADE…to MEET specifications and NEEDS…so am saying that to say this, those who create these designs ALWAYS LOOK TO PERFECT THEM…..

    now if ya had to depend on Caribbean governments to upgrade or perfect a product i would be very, very worried indeed, but since these clowns cannot even create anything or do their jobs without consultants holding their hands and telling them what to do…i defintely would never worry about solar panels and their ablilty to withstand hurricanes….or the best way to get rid of old panels..after 30 YEARS…

    “Weather patterns have always been considered when determining solar system lifetimes and performance. Safety is also considered when establishing installation guidelines and product standards. The recent intensity of natural disasters across the country—a direct result of climate change—brings the adequacy of safety and performance standards into question. Are solar installations prepared for the increased frequency and intensity of extreme weather events of the future?

    For the most part, it seems like we’re faring OK. When bad weather hits, there are more solar success stories than major failures. Rooftop arrays are surviving multiple hurricane hits and panels barely feel hailstorms. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be concerned as natural disasters get worse.

    Global safety and testing organization UL is paying attention. A good baseline for product standards today may need to be adjusted in the future. UL factors the full lifespan of a project, including any potential climate changes in year 20 or 35, into how arrays should perform.”

    AND IF YA READ THE MANUFACTURER’S MANUAL…YA CAN’T GO WRONG..

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @robert lucas
    I’m not making excuses for BL&P, but a lot of the blame for the fuel quality lies with BNOCL. The national oil company is the ONLY body licensed to purchase and import fuel oil. Furthermore, the routine tests that they had been doing, eg. for particulates and sulfur, had no way of detecting this new problem with ketones and aldehydes.

    The PM deserves credit for cajoling ESSO to make their extra storage tanks available so that BL&P can shift the 1.3 million gallons of the bad fuel offsite so that they can replace it with a new shipment of better fuel.

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  • @Peter

    What you say is probably true, it does not remove the bigger issue, lack of good planning with BL&P being a key stakeholder in the process.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    Overall I have to confess grudging respect for the way the PM has forced BL&P to bring forward it’s replacement fossil fuel generator plans from two years to two weeks. I am not a fan of her often dictatorial and showboating style of leadership, but it seems as though this is what Bajans want— if only wash the do nothing taste of the previous administration’s style out their mouth.

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  • cannot understand how a govt will allow a service provider that is critical and crucial to its social and economic environment to do their own testing without an independent overview to verify that the specification required are up to govt standards
    My belief is that govt took at face value testing from the provider of the fuel and BL&P might have run testing only sufficient and enough to show that the fuel was compatible to servicing their generators without problem

    Btw govt needs to release a report on how this catastrophic meltdown has impacted the Sewer system

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  • She had to CLAMP DOWN on Emera …PLT..

    it is quite obvious that they have ulterior motives that do not bode wel for the people nor island and they are TESTING TO SEE HOW MUCH THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH, HOW FAR THEY CAN PUSH…

    but i would push their asses right off the island..

    .. am sure this is not the first time they were supplied substandard fuel, they should have in their possession better testing procedures/equipment for the unexpected..

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  • Hasnt BNOCl servicing bl&p for years
    The truth lies within the importing of oil coming from another source
    Cant be only a problem to be lay at BNOCL feet
    Get real

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  • Hope Mia did not do any back door deal with Jamaica and ended up with contaminated oil/fuel as people are saying, hope it’s just a rumor, if not, this is NOT ending any time soon..

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    The strengths and weaknesses of PM Mottley’s leadership are exemplified by her response to the BL&P catastrophe this week. This leadership style is a direct descendant of the plantation culture— but it’s not the role of the plantocrat in the big house, it is the persona of the head Ranger on the plantation: an enslaved person put in charge of organizing and motivating all the other enslaved people on the plantation. Our hero Bussa was head Ranger at Bayley’s Plantation. EWB also exhibited this often engaging but fundamentally autocratic style.

    Her strength is the bias toward action; she likes to get shit done. She is always well briefed on the nitty gritty details and is smart enough to listen to experts.

    The weakness is that not a f*cking thing gets done unless she is there on the ground barking orders. This is compounded in the long term by the effect it has on sabotaging succession planning. In such a leadership culture no new leaders are cultivated.

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  • David
    – Did BL&P apply some years ago for permission to build a generation plant in St. Lucy and was that permission denied?

    Did the BL and P reapply to the “new” Mia Mottley admission for permission to build the generation plant but was told that it had to be a renewable energy based plant which is not only more costly but takes longer to build than a fossil fueled plant?

    -Did the DLP administration insist that BL&P buy fuel ONLY from BNOC even though BNOC’s quality control was suspect?

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    BNOCL has been servicing BL&P for ever, but they had to change their source of supply when the Trinidadians shut down their refinery. One new source is the Petrojam refinery in Jamaica, but that organization is plagued by a dysfunctional company culture (the gasoline they provided to Jamaicans a couple of years ago destroyed car engines); google Petrojam corruption for illustrative details.

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  • @ David

    The FTC was only ever set up to make consumers feel they have a voice. It was a political toy put there to buy favour with the public that’s all.

    As for this issue with the Power we need to stop rambling all over the place and stay on point. Emera is a dismal failure here as a supply company and I say so based on facts and not fiction.

    They knew the age of their assets when they acquired them and the reliable market life of the product. Had they felt the equipment was old and in need of replacing their offer price per share should have taken the replacement cost into consideration. If they didn’t they are not only a poor power supply company but piss poor business people.

    Basically they have no excuse for their situAtion. To blame it on fuel means you have no quality control unit that works either.

    The point is they bought the assets of the old light and Power based on the written down book value of those generators. They therefore are not out of pocket so don’t let their whining fool you! They then got more years out of them than they should have and are now here looking for sympathy based on nothing financial.

    As the bajans say ” carry wunna tail do”.

    Madam PM I am the first to criticise when you do wrong but I support you leaning hard on them 103% today!

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  • As i said not sure if this srticle where Jamaica is sipplying fuel to Barnados is the same thing but people are saying that is where the contaminated oil came from.

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Jamaica_supplies_Barbados_with_oil?profile=1228&template=MobileArticle

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Ping Pong
    “-Did the BL and P reapply to the “new” Mia Mottley admission for permission to build the generation plant but was told that it had to be a renewable energy based plant which is not only more costly but takes longer to build than a fossil fueled plant?”
    No, the renewable energy based plant in St. Lucy was planned and built before Mottley came to power.

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  • So wait help me here.

    If we buying oil for our generators from Jamaica and the same company supplying the power company there with the same fuel, how come their generators not breaking down every 5 minutes then?

    Wunna feel I now crawl out from under a rock ? LOL

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  • Alex MacDonald again…anyhoo, he claimed he negotiated an even BETTER PRICE……yep, so in essence he got what he paid for….ya just cannot make it up…then, he actually said they had options to choose from around the world….lol

    “Jamaica supplies Barbados with oil

    Tuesday, July 09, 2019

    KINGSTON, Jamaica — Petrojam Limited is now supplying the Barbados National Terminal Company Limited (BNTCL) with oil, following the closure last November of the state-owned PETROTRIN oil refinery in Trinidad and Tobago.

    BNTCL chairman, Alex McDonald said the deal is far more competitive than the previous with PETROTRIN.

    McDonald said that the contract with Petrojam has been in existence over the last six months and that while BNTCL had received numerous offers worldwide, the island’s relationship with Jamaica was a decisive factor in awarding the contract to Petrojam.

    “Through our competitive tendering process that went through about six months ago, we received a lot of quotations from all over the world and Jamaica had the best price for us and as a result, we went and we renegotiated an even better deal based on our relationships with them and our future plans. So that’s where we get our oil from right now,” McDonald said.

    The Trinidad and Tobago Government shut down the refinery after complaining of billions of dollars (one TT dollar=US$0.16 cents) in losses annually. It has since established Heritage Petroleum Company and Paria Fuel Trading Company that are undertaking exploration as well as handling fuel logistics and the energy trading aspect of the business respectively.

    Port of Spain said that Heritage Petroleum Company stands on the platform of expertise from the 100 years of oil and gas experience, while Paria Fuel Trading Company has access to strategic linkages and high-level market intelligence”

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  • So since none of us were born last night….the next question is…HOW MANY MILLIONS WERE SKIMMED OFF…..that they ended up with shite oil that shut down already aged generators that should have been replaced over a decade ago……lol

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  • And of that fact EMERA would have been aware. Would they not have advised the government? What testing of the fuel was done before use?

    And, If they were denied permission to build the new plant why did they not speak of such at the briefing? Why speak only of Cahill and Andrews?

    Are you really trying to tell me that the monopoly provider of power to Barbados has no power?????

    Nobody in government listening to them?

    Steupse! Just greedy capitalists at it again. Look at what’s happening in California! They try to wring the last dollar out of their infrastructure. Today’s capitalist cares nothing for the customer or the worker. It’s all about the shareholder.

    The whole world has come to realize that. That is why the whole world except docile Barbadians are taking to the streets and demanding change.

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  • Before talk about throwing Emera off the island
    Question to be asked is what does govt have in mind for alternative energy to service the entire country
    BL&P at its current state would not receive a fair market value one would understand that this catastrophe has a negative impact on its value in the market and a potential buyer would not want to invest in junk
    Therefore barbadians along with govt will have to pick up whatever losses impacted on from the meltdown when Emera starts the rebuilding process
    It is times like these that many reflect and think what if
    What if govt was not so inclined to stay put on a political self serving soap box
    My mind now reflects on a gasification plant which would have been helpful in taking some of the workload off an aging BL&P plant

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  • BL&P need to give every customer an automatic refund for the time they didn’t get no electricity. That needs to be separate and apart from any compensation they pay out to customers who suffered loss because of a lack of electricity.

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  • Look the reality is this whether we like it or not. The FTC is a waste of time. Emera have a monopoly here. The producers of solar energy have their prduction limited by the government and the said Emera.

    Emera tried to squeeze every last cent out of old generators and it has now come back to bite them in their tail. All the above are undeniable facts.

    My question to the PM is ” so what we doing bout it?”

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  • There is provision under the Consumer Act for compensation if the consumer submits a claim.

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Donna
    “What testing of the fuel was done before use?”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++
    The national oil company is the ONLY body licensed to purchase and import fuel oil. BL&P has no choice but to source their supply through them. The routine tests that they had been doing, eg. for particulates and sulfur, had no way of detecting this new problem with ketones and aldehydes.

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  • @Peter

    The GM of BNOC all but admit it is their fault regarding the contamination. Because it is a liability issue read the BL&P will be slapping a claim in BNOC a couching of language was used. Look for a shake up at BNOCL.

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  • @John A

    EMERA is the subject matter expert in the transaction, if governments strategic plan was flawed there are mechanisms to vent the matter. Why go along with a plan to generate power based with flawed assumptions.

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  • “My mind now reflects on a gasification plant which would have been helpful in taking some of the workload off an aging BL&P plant,”

    what kind of STUPID are you playing at now…which part of a gasification PLANT IS DANGEROUS FOR SUCH A SMALL ISLAND DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND….

    if it CAN’T WORK IN UK…how would yall have gotten ya CROOK/THIEF FRIEND Clare the Cow FROM CANADA TO MAKE IT WORK IN BARBADOS..

    no one wants any of the LYING, backward and ignorant DLP ministers/politicians anywhere near the parliament….EVER AGAIN…they tief too much.

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  • Exactly, John A! Exactly! As I said, EMERA knew the state of play, got everything they could for their dollar. Provided poor service for a long time. Took a chance and their luck ran out.

    I hope Mottley brings the hammer down on them and keeps pounding.

    They could fool the fools but having battled with them repeatedly over their piss poor service, they cannot fool me.

    “Day does run until night catch it!”

    An appropriate and timely Barbadian saying.

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  • What is most annoying to me when it comes to Enema(Yes I calling them enema) and the BWA is this.

    Why do the BWA not have standby generators on their major pumping stations? How is the BWA different say to COST U LESS ? Are they not all selling a product? If you are a business selling water and you can’t sell what you can’t supply, would not the installation of generators secure your revenue? Of course that is assuming we looking at the BWA as a business!

    Yesterday I dropped home an old lady who lives in Porey Springs St Thomas, she has not had water for 4 days! When I was coming through the area they were young guys and women lugging water from the spring up the hill in containers. You mean to tell me this is how we must live in 2019!

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  • Purchasing generators to make sure the public is never inconvenienced would take away from the skimming from the top factor……they too love to TIEF, BY THE MILLIONS…the easiest way is to set up the scam and double or triple invoice..

    can’t do that if they purchase generators…it would be less money for them..

    you should know the low crawling mentalities coming from that parliament by now.

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  • This is what is killing me, am doubled over…lol

    “Through our competitive tendering process that went through about six months ago, we received a lot of quotations from all over the world and Jamaica had the best price for us and as a result, we went and we renegotiated an even better deal based on our relationships with them and our future plans. So that’s where we get our oil from right now,” McDonald said.”

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  • If your critique of Mia is correct than she could as well make her cabinet redundant. Eighteen months into her government and its very likely that things will continue to deteriorate.
    Are you sure you made the right decision to return to your homeland. What is unfolding in Barbados is a real tragedy.

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  • PLT,

    Again I say – does the monopoly supplier of power in Barbados have no power? Are we saying that nobody in government listens to them?

    Please! I saw their faces and their attitude last night when Mia asked about the simultaneous aging out of ALL the engines. They have been caught red-handed! The contaminated fuel brought the issue of their aging plant to a head.

    That was clear.

    PS. If you could google and find out the suspect nature of fuel from that source do you think Emera was unaware? Show me the documented objections they made when consulted by government! Didn’t hear any of that at the time or even last night. And should they not have insisted on more than “routine testing”?

    The main issue is the bloody old equipment. That is what I gleaned from what I heard from Emera over the past few days. That is what Mia forced them to accept last night. The fuel made the problem worse. That is all.

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  • Sent to PLT

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  • @Piece

    What’s your take on Mugabe’s apparent direct input into this fuel purchase from Jamacia. How is SOL and new Canadian purchaser of SOL involved ?

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  • Emera

    The BL&P did not upgrade their equipment recently. Due to their contract expiring soon and the GO Green project schedules by 2030.
    As a result the O rings are becoming hard more quickly with less fuel due to a phenol reaction from these new suppliers which we had to get as there was a shortage from the old suppliers.
    Therefore we have no back up measures.
    That being said they did not purchase the new equipment with their contract not renewed with certainty.
    Now. Yesterday morning the Titanium pipe channel on spring garden blew which caused a fault and overloaded the other circuits which all tripped. They used a second Titanium pipe to do the job and had everyone up by last night. Unfortunately this AM Pipe number 2 also blew and luckily no one died as it exploded.
    They can’t repair pipe one. They now trying to repair pipe 2 which blew this am.
    They don’t have a back up due to poor provision and they laid off half their staff in cuts last year. So they are actually in “shit” right now.

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  • The proverbial bad penny! No matter how you toss him up he lands on heads and it’s tails we lose! Heads he wins tails we lose!

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  • @ Waru,
    You continue to be correct in your judgment. People prefer to own their homes rather than renting. Should it not be the same when it comes to having ownership over domestic energy within your home especially in a country which is blessed with plenty of sun light.

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  • Ya that SOL and Canadian purchaser of SOL…Simpson can pretend as much he wants, but not all Bajans are blind..KARMA is in town.

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  • “Should it not be the same when it comes to having ownership over domestic energy within your home especially in a country which is blessed with plenty of sun light.”

    I have been saying for years…THE SUN IS FREE…

    it’s these empty suits in parliament ALWAYS running around everywhere searching for CROOKS AND THIEVES to SELL THEM THE SUN…

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  • @ John A
    Thank you for mentioning the water because everybody talking about the current and forgetting the water. I know some people who come in for a funeral, staying in St George and they haven’t had water for 4 days. Barbados cannot continue like this. 2019 and you got no electricity and no water.

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  • @David

    Yes I agree with you on poor planning and even poorer excuses. If you have a shop and their is “rumour” of another shop setting up in your area, do you stop buying items for your store?

    Every excuse they use is more pathetic than the previous one. So I now ask how much will the FTC be fining enema for every hour they can’t provide power to our island? Also should businesses file their bills for lost of revenue with the FTC or directly with enema?

    You see I am moving past the obvious RH that has occurred and asking where is the consumer protection and what penalty will enema pay for their negligence under our system?

    Answer = NONE and NONE

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  • Was reminded of those big staff cuts on Monday. With old ass equipment how would that have been justified?

    Too many issues! Can’t talk about all!

    You can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time!

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  • The blame game in full effect, everyone pointing fingers but if the problem stems from contaminated fuel and the fuel is supposed to be tested by BNOCL and BNOCL is a Gov’t entity- yah see where this is going?

    Emera is the last man standing and most of the fingers pointed at them but as the man said “never let a serious crisis go to waste” , the PM (no fool she) seized the opportunity to hold Emera in a hammerlock and they are tapping the canvas in submission.

    BTW while addressing this problem we heard about the Sewage crisis, reservoirs, the lost decade even the Prison (Glendairy) got a mention.

    Repeat “Never let a serious crisis go to waste”.

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  • Steupse! Just greedy capitalists at it again. Look at what’s happening in California!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    California is run by Socialists … Democrats.

    The Power outages there are to prevent the starting and spreading of wildfires because all the regulations imposed by the Socialists/Democrats have preventing the removal of kindling.

    One of the consequences is that all the electric cars which the Socialists/Democrats have encouraged people to buy to save the environment can’t work … nowhere to charge!!

    So people up in the forests on the hills can’t get out with these vehicles.

    … so what’s the difference between the SS California and SS Titanic?

    Titanic had its lights on when it sunk.

    California was blacked out and sunk by a U boat.

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  • @TLSN @Waru
    You are both so right bout incorporating power generation into houses. I have a couple of friends of mine in Jamaica who use wind turbines to generate power for their own homes and harvest and purify rain water for their domestic needs. The technology to solve these problems is available but they can’t get implemented coz the system is set up to line certain people pockets. This is the real underlying cause of the situation we in. We need to change it.

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  • @TeeWhite

    Yes we can blame enema for the electricity issue but the piss poor planning by the BWA must fall squarely on their shoulders.

    I left home yesterday morning with no electricity and no water and went to a large wholesale outlet who were fully functioning with AC blowing nice and cold by their generators. If the board of the BWA were business people who realised that to sell water they first needed to supply it, you don’t think every major pumping station should have a auto on generator?

    You see it is not only enema that has proven a dismal failure but also the BWA. Instead of being dependant on enema the BWA should be independent of them. Of course again i say that would mean running the BWA as a business and God forbid that should ever happen!

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  • And how would they expect their contract to be renewed with PISS POOR service? Seems like a good reason to kick their asses off and bring in somebody else. Besides, the equipment should have been purchased ages ago when their contract had several years still to go.

    Lying excuses!

    Now I am not the lone voice crying in the wilderness! No more middle of the night calls for me. Take that, Mr. Customer Disservice Rep!

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  • Yesterday I dropped home an old lady who lives in Porey Springs St Thomas, she has not had water for 4 days! When I was coming through the area they were young guys and women lugging water from the spring up the hill in containers. You mean to tell me this is how we must live in 2019!

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Did you know there was a Quaker Meeting called the Spring?

    15 acres of land!!

    Burying ground.

    I see a lot of houses building so I am wondering how the ownership of the land changed!!

    Wonder how many remains of Quakers and Slaves they are turning up?

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  • Now if Mia had locked up those responsible for all this, no solar houses, no this, no that, financial problems up the wazoo….because the people and island were ROBBED….she would have more people in her corner, but keep up the brazen…it’s working out so well.

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  • Steupse, John. I will not be distracted by your nonsense.

    Sargeant,

    The fuel was only part of the problem. Even Emera has admitted that. That is why Mottley was able to pin them to the mat.

    And long may she keep them there!

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  • @John.

    Nope didn’t know that. Can tell you though all the living up there dying to see little water run through their taps again!

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  • How does a company refund a customer for metered service if the customer is not receiving the service Steupse

    In eighteen months under present govt.
    We have Emera gate
    Ram Gate
    WaterGate
    Peeps dont expect the list to get better
    Barbadians are being served by a clueless bunch handing them empty promises

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @TLSNNovember 20, 2019 9:23 AM
    “If your critique of Mia is correct than she could as well make her cabinet redundant.”
    ++++++++++++++++++
    What is your evidence that the rest of her cabinet is not redundant? 😉

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  • Anyhow I still waiting for the FTC to tell me if I should bring my bill for damages to them or carry it straight to Enema. So far I billing for the following.

    Lost of sleep as old fan went off $500.

    Meat in freezer the dog had for dinner $200- dog guts full=$180

    Lost of personal hygiene = $200

    Anguish and mental suffering=$5000

    Laundry bill at the laundry down the hill $200

    Miscellaneous $ 2000

    Now stop laughing and let’s be serious. If the FTC was worth anything and each bajan affected could submit a claim like this via them, do you honestly think either enema or the BWA would risk the nonesence they are doing?

    Dem got enough blame for all to hold some and still got nuff left over!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @DonnaNovember 20, 2019 9:52 AM
    “Seems like a good reason to kick their asses off and bring in somebody else.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Any other private sector replacement for Emera is going to behave exactly as badly as they have. That’s how capitalism works. If you want a different outcome you have to change the structure of the utility. If a public utility is privately owned then the private profitability will always trump the public interest.

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  • Barbados WAS being run by a clueless bunch handing them empty promises! There is no Ram Gate. The Water Gate was when the DLP government built the new building to administer no water service instead of upgrading the actual water delivering infrastructure. And Emera was not properly regulated under the DLP otherwise they would have bought equipment. The last of the equipment was purchased in 2005 around the same time that the last buses were purchased when the BLP formed the government.

    #thelostdecade

    Have you no shame, woman??????!!!!!!

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  • Is Barbados a failed state?

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  • peterlawrencethompson
    November 20, 2019 10:16 AM

    @DonnaNovember 20, 2019 9:52 AM
    “Seems like a good reason to kick their asses off and bring in somebody else.”
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    Any other private sector replacement for Emera is going to behave exactly as badly as they have. That’s how capitalism works. If you want a different outcome you have to change the structure of the utility. If a public utility is privately owned then the private profitability will always trump the public interest.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I know, why don’t we nationalize it and let Government (once it is constitutional) run it!!

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  • peterlawrencethompson

    @JohnNovember 20, 2019 10:21 AM
    “I know, why don’t we nationalize it and let Government (once it is constitutional) run it!!”
    +++++++++++++++++
    Great idea!! Then it will be just as efficient and effective as our beloved BWA!

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  • @ Hal

    You right to get up there after a nice shower and electricity and laugh at me down here in my banana republic! My friend if it wasn’t so frustrating it would be laughable.

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  • John A

    Who’s laughing? (I am, though. If you don’t laugh you would cry. It’s tragicomedy)

    About the BWA having generators. I wonder if it would not be better to PROPERLY monitor the BL & P to ensure reliable service. The BWA is their biggest customer. Would it be profitable for them to operate minus their biggest customer? If the generators are just used for back up wouldn’t that be too much money lying idle that could have been better used? Scarce resources and all.

    Just asking!

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  • John
    November 20, 2019 9:53 AM

    Yesterday I dropped home an old lady who lives in Porey Springs St Thomas, she has not had water for 4 days! When I was coming through the area they were young guys and women lugging water from the spring up the hill in containers. You mean to tell me this is how we must live in 2019!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Did you know there was a Quaker Meeting called the Spring?
    15 acres of land!!
    Burying ground.
    I see a lot of houses building so I am wondering how the ownership of the land changed!!
    Wonder how many remains of Quakers and Slaves they are turning up?

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Quaker burying grounds are all over in St. Thomas where you will find both Quakers and slaves side by side.

    Another is around the vault of General Williams in Vault Road next to Welchman Hall Gully.

    My guess is the vault is a marker and all around the vault are buried other Quakers, because General Williams was a Quaker, and of course slaves.

    It follows if my logic is correct that if you were to come upon remains around the General’s vault or in Porey Spring they could be either Quaker or slave!!

    Same principle I believe at Newton.

    If you wanted to differentiate you would need to do DNA testing.

    … but at the time, differentiation was not considered when burying the dead.

    … then there is another at Sturges, and at Ayshford and at Strong Hope and at Cane Garden and at Lears …. etc etc etc.

    Once the earth hasn’t been moved to please you could find remains all over in St. Thomas … and St. Lucy and Christ Church etc etc etc!!

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  • peterlawrencethompson
    November 20, 2019 10:26 AM

    @JohnNovember 20, 2019 10:21 AM
    “I know, why don’t we nationalize it and let Government (once it is constitutional) run it!!”
    +++++++++++++++++
    Great idea!! Then it will be just as efficient and effective as our beloved BWA!

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    All in the public interest!!

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  • @John A

    The stakeholders that is government, EMERA, private sector actors, NGOs are all aware of the state of play in the energy sector. We have a crisis of governance. The next problem germinating is NIS.

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