Sweet Sunday Sermon – ADAM & EVE – Entrance of Sin CHRIST THE LAST ADAM

Submitted by Dr. GP

Every summer at the Plymouth Brethren Assembly that I attend here in Central Florida, the 16 Sundays in June through September are devoted to one of the men in the church giving a talk on a chosen theme
 

Those who are interested in Bible Biography and the concept of spiritual inheritance should fine the exegesis of the 1 Peter passage enlightening.

Before you post on these Sunday Sermon blogs, maybe you should like the Bereans in Acts 17:11, first consult the Word of God, to see if the things here said are so, by  studying the Scriptures diligently and inductively as enjoined in 2 Timothy 2:15 & Nehemiah 8:8 especially emphasizing reading the text literally and reading the text in its context so that you can be sure to keep context “king”, so that you will be able to competently comment on the commentaries (including the one you are reading here on BU)

Do so in dependence on The Teacher, the Holy Spirit (not me), Who Jesus promised would guide believers  into all truth (John 16:13). This way you are more likely to benefit from the discourse.

In the last 50 years I have heard teens and even some very uneducated elderly men give good and accurate thoughts on passages of the Word of God.

You might also even consult reputable Bible commentaries, or sermons or other resources, so that we may have a reasonably useful discussion. If you do not like the Bible, just stay away. That is much better than professing yourself to be wise and only proving yourself to be a fool as taught in Romans 1:22.

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  • About 4 years ago, the summer series of our assembly here in Central Florida addressed the book of Genesis, so I shared the second chapter of my DMin thesis, which was on Genesis in the first of the 16 sessions, on THE FALL OF ADAM & EVE. This is the topic of this week’s SWEET SUNDAY SERMON. It should be interesting. My powerpoint appears above..

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  • ONCE I ATTENDED A SERVICE IN WHICH THE PREACHER TALKED ABOUT CHRIST SAYING BEWARE OF THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES

    He concluded that whenever you hear the word Leaven that it was bad not realising that Christ was talking about the Dogmatic Approach of the Pharisees and to be aware of those teachings and the fruit of those teachings. We all have Opinions and there are seven Billion of us on the Planet each with their own Views.

    The Two Sides to the same Coin is Religion and Politics and Bajans love to talk about both. However, there is only One Truth and they are many ways of expressing that truth. The Pharisees did not Express the Truth of the Gospel but the Carpenter did, Not the Doctors of the Law.

    The Correct Perspective Changes Everything such as looking at a Glass either Half Full or Half Empty. The Opinion that was shared Presupposes that of all the Beings that were created Spiritually that God Choose to place in the Garden of Eden were somehow Stupid and Sinful, yet their “Sin” was ALWAYS DESCRIBED AS A TRANSGRESSION NOT SIN”. It is Very True that Genesis is Very Important. Genesis goes from “In the beginning” to the “Death of Jacob” which encompasses the Twelve tribes of the Covenant through which the world is blessed.

    IN YOUR EXPLANATION, YOU HAVE NEGLECTED SOME IMPORTANT CONCEPTS, such as would God Choose wisely who would be the first people on the Earth…Would the All Knowing Know that they would have made an Error or Chosen Correctly?

    WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE WAS A WAR IN HEAVEN, WHERE SATAN WANTED TO EXALT HIMSELF ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE AND GOD WANTED EVERYONE TO CHOOSE FREELY.

    Rev. 12:7–8;
    7 And there was a war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

    8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    Isa. 14:12–20;

    12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

    14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

    15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

    16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

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  • GOD CHOSE ADAM AND EVE, IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WOULD GOD CHOOSE THE FIRST PEOPLE IN THE GARDEN WHO HE FELT WOULD FAIL OR WHO WOULD SUCCEED?

    When you read the story of Eve being Tempted and she had an Epiphany that the Fruit was able to make One Wise. We have no Higher Learning than Wisdom. Eves “Transgression”, was that she partook of the Fruit First without discussing it with Adam.

    Adam was in the Garden Longer than Eve and was Taught by God on a One an One basis before Eve and would have Known the Consequences of Death and of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He Exclaimed when God asked him why did you eat of the fruit, “the woman thou gavest me TO BE WITH ME gave me of the fruit after she had partaken so I had to eat it to stay with her as you had commanded”. They Both Choose to Gain the Knowledge and to Tell the Difference between Good and Evil, KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY WOULD DIE AND NOT LIVE FOREVER IN THIS VEIL OF TEARS.

    RE “Eve then encouraged Adam to join her in her error (1 Timothy 2:14).”

    1 Timothy 2:14 (KJV)
    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    Adam and Eve were in Transgression, they Transgressed to be able to Progress to Learn the Difference between Good and Evil because it was Desirable to Make One Wise!

    GP if Freedom had to say anything about your Article is that they are Good things in it and Nuggets to gain from it but the PERCEPTION IS OFF.

    START WITH THE PERCEPTION THAT ADAM AND EVE WERE CHOSEN BY GOD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO, TO BRING TO PASS OUR EXISTENCE AND OUR LEARNING GOOD FROM EVIL THAT WE MAY BECOME JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST. We could never accomplish becoming Joint Heirs of Christ if we do not Know how to Choose Good From Evil. We should be thankful to our First Earthly Parents for having allowed us to learn in this Environment. In all that was Said, THEY DID NOT SIN in the Garden because they did not have a full knowledge and understanding of the Consequences of Good and Evil so they TRANSGRESSED, even Willi fully; they Choose the Harder Road to Make Progress, not only for them but for us. We will be Eternally grateful for their Wisdom in Choosing that we may Exist and Learn the Lessons that we are to Learn. THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN BEFORE THE FALL, THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED IN A STATE OF INNOCENCE AND WE WOULD NOT BE!

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  • As a certain teacher used to say at BFS in the early 60’s “NEXT!”

    A panel of learned men in s Baptist seminar found that my perception of Genesis and its relation to the NT as is the point of my thesis was Biblically sound.

    A congregation of believers composed of ex Bible school teachers, Bible school graduates, ex missionaries listened attentively and enjoyed the message when it was presented.They were blessed by the message, as the many who will read the presentation here n BU.

    i HOPE THAT THIS EFFORT WILL BE AS STATED IN Isaiah 55:11
    So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

    Time for me to set off and sit at the back of the meeting room for Breaking of Bread.

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  • @ GP November 10, 2019 7:08 AM

    Good “SUN” day to you, Pastor GP!

    May I, out of childlike inquisitiveness, ask a question in your Sunday school class, please Teacher?

    How come your captioned image shows two European-looking people representing Adam & Eve both fully dressed in hunter-gathering looking garbs walking by, hand in hand, the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the middle of the Garden of Eden?

    Doesn’t the fable in the book of Genesis say that they were both naked before the serpent came to enlighten them about their powers of reproduction (‘knowing’ each other) and their ability to create life just like the gods?

    BTW, where is the serpent hiding in the picture? Didn’t the serpent have a snaky ‘female’ companion since Yahweh created two of every kind?

    “When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

    Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.” ~ Taken straight from Pastor GP’s book of Jewish fairy tales.

    PS:
    Please don’t get angry with your little smartass student called uppity Johnny Miller.

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  • @ Dr. GP,

    where is the link?

    I read your narrative but barring the Pinterest picture I could not find the PowerPoint link.

    I too am on my way to church so…

    But I promised myself to send this to you when I spoke to you last.

    This tutorial on YouTube shows you how to create and share Google Documents

    The reason that you do that is because

    1.you have total control of your documents

    2.your readers have greater assurances that your shared materials ARE NOT INFECTED WHEN WE DOWNLOAD/VIEW THEM.

    3.Fears about ET CALL HOME SPYWARE EMBEDDED IN YOUR WRITINGS are lessened though we know facebook is doing there google analytics things

    Without the powerpoint one cannot comment reasonably.

    What de *** is that woman talking bout?

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  • @ the Sage Annunaki

    Morning Sage.

    I’m not sure but the captioned image might have been inserted by the Honourable Blogmaster

    I speak under correction but he may sometimes append an image to liven up a submission

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  • Piece the LegendNovember 10, 2019 10:16 AM

    @ Dr. GP, where is the link?
    the powerpoint came up when I clicked on the picture.
    hope you enjoy it

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  • Miller
    IT IS OBVIOUS THAT AT SOME TIME YOU READ THE BIBLE
    I JUST CANT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COME AWAY WITH YOUR WEIRD INTERPRETATIONS
    BUT I AM NOT ANGRY WITH YOU

    PIECE
    1- THANKS FOR YOUR tutorial on YouTube shows
    2- the captioned image might WAS NOT inserted by the Honourable Blogmaster THIS TIME
    3 CLICK ON THE IMAGE AND THE POWERPOINT WILL COME UP
    4 HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR CHURCH MEETING
    5 RE What de *** is that woman talking bout? HOW WOULD I KNOW, SEEING THAT SHE HERSELF DOES NOT KNOW WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT

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  • RE ONCE I ATTENDED A SERVICE IN WHICH THE PREACHER TALKED ABOUT CHRIST SAYING BEWARE OF THE LEAVEN OF THE PHARISEES

    WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT UNDER DISCUSSION?

    RE He concluded that whenever you hear the word Leaven that it was bad not realising that Christ was talking about the Dogmatic Approach of the Pharisees and to be aware of those teachings and the fruit of those teachings.
    PERHAPS YOU SHOULD TRACE THE USE OF THE WORD LEAVEN FROM ITS FIRST APPEARANCE IN THE BIBLE, FOR A FULLER UNDERSTANDING, AS ALL REAL BIBLE SCHOLARS AND TEACHERS DO.

    RE The Pharisees did not Express the Truth of the Gospel but the Carpenter did, Not the Doctors of the Law.
    BUT THE CARPENTER WAS GOD! AND HE PRESENTED THE GOSPEL. HOW COULD THE Doctors of the Law “Express the Truth of the Gospel?
    WHY NOT THINK BEFORE YOU TYPE RUBBISH?.

    RE The Correct Perspective Changes Everything such as looking at a Glass either Half Full or Half Empty. The Opinion that was shared Presupposes that of all the Beings that were created Spiritually that God Choose to place in the Garden of Eden were somehow Stupid and Sinful,
    HOW COULD THAT BE SO? THEY STARTED IN THE DISPENSATION OF INNOCENCE AS WAS CLEARLY STATED. CANT YOU READ?.
    THEY BECAME Stupid and Sinful, WHEN THEY SINNED.

    RE yet their “Sin” was ALWAYS DESCRIBED AS A TRANSGRESSION NOT SIN”
    TRANSGRESSION IS A SYNONYNM FOR SIN”

    RE It is Very True that Genesis is Very Important. Genesis goes from “In the beginning” to the “Death of Jacob” which encompasses the Twelve tribes of the Covenant through which the world is blessed.

    BUT WE WERE DISCUSSING THE FALL AND COMPARING THE FIRST ADAM TO THE SECOND ADAM, NOT GIVING A SURVEY OF GENESIS HERE

    RE IN YOUR EXPLANATION, YOU HAVE NEGLECTED SOME IMPORTANT CONCEPTS, such as would God Choose wisely who would be the first people on the Earth…Would the All Knowing Know that they would have made an Error or Chosen Correctly?
    I THINK HE DID.

    HE ALSO KNEW THAT YOU WOULD COME TODAY TRYING TO BE A DISRUPTER, AND BEING A SOURCE OF GREAT MIRTH TO ME AS YOU MAKE A FOOL OF YOURSELF PICKING AT NITS, AND CREATING STRAW MEN AS YOU LOOK FOR THINGS TO CRITICIZE TO SHOW HOW BRILLIANT AND KNOWLEDGEABLE YOU ARE.I

    RE WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE WAS A WAR IN HEAVEN, WHERE SATAN WANTED TO EXALT HIMSELF ABOVE EVERYONE ELSE AND GOD WANTED EVERYONE TO CHOOSE FREELY.

    WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE IS WAR ON BU AS FREEDOM SEEKS TO EXALT HERSELF

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  • RE GOD CHOSE ADAM AND EVE, IF YOU THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WOULD GOD CHOOSE THE FIRST PEOPLE IN THE GARDEN WHO HE FELT WOULD FAIL OR WHO WOULD SUCCEED?

    ASK HIM WHEN YOU SEE HIM, BUT I THINK GOD DID THINGS JUST RIGHT
    I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO HIGHMINDED AS YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE TO QUESTION GOD. I BELIEVE Isaiah 55:8-9 WHICH TEACHES VERY CLEARLY 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD.
    9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

    RE Eves “Transgression”, was that she partook of the Fruit First without discussing it with Adam.
    EVES’S SIN WAS THAT SHE DOUBTED GOD AND DISOBEYED

    RE Adam was in the Garden Longer than Eve and was Taught by God on a One an One basis before Eve and would have Known the Consequences of Death and of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
    HE OBVIOUSLY DID NOT CAUSED HE DISOBEYED JUST AS EVE DID

    RE He Exclaimed when God asked him why did you eat of the fruit, “the woman thou gavest me TO BE WITH ME gave me of the fruit after she had partaken so I had to eat it to stay with her as you had commanded”.

    THE TEXT DOES NOT SAY THAT HE SAID THAT . YOU SOUND LIKE ADAM SCHIFF. READ THE TEXT AGAIN

    RE They Both Choose to Gain the Knowledge and to Tell the Difference between Good and Evil, KNOWING THE CONSEQUENCES THAT THEY WOULD DIE AND NOT LIVE FOREVER IN THIS VEIL OF TEARS.
    WELL THEY WERE BOTH VERY VERY STUPID

    RE “Adam and Eve were in Transgression, they Transgressed to be able to Progress to Learn the Difference between Good and Evil because it was Desirable to Make One Wise!
    RUBBISH THAT’S A NON SEQUITUR NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY BIBLE TEXT

    RE GP if Freedom had to say anything about your Article is that they are Good things in it and Nuggets to gain from it
    THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THOSE WHO READ THE CHAPTER OR HEARD THE LECTURE THOUGHT

    RE but the PERCEPTION IS OFF.
    SEEMS THAT YOU AND YOUR PERCEPTION IS “OFF”

    RE START WITH THE PERCEPTION THAT ADAM AND EVE WERE CHOSEN BY GOD TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO, TO BRING TO PASS OUR EXISTENCE AND OUR LEARNING GOOD FROM EVIL THAT WE MAY BECOME JOINT HEIRS WITH CHRIST.

    NO THAT IS YOUR SPECULATION AND PERCEPTION—A SPECULATION AND PERCEPTION THAT IS UNIQUE TO YOUR WARPED CONVOLUTED MIND. YOU NEED TO LEARN TO KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

    RE We could never accomplish becoming Joint Heirs of Christ if we do not Know how to Choose Good From Evil.
    THAT IS NOT WHAT IS TAUGHT ON THIS SUBJECT IN ROMANS 8:16 ET SECQ PLEASE READ AND STUDY ABOUT IT
    6 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
    17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.
    18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
    19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
    20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
    21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
    22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
    23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
    24 For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?

    RE We should be thankful to our First Earthly Parents for having allowed us to learn in this Environment.
    REALLY?

    RE In all that was Said, THEY DID NOT SIN in the Garden because they did not have a full knowledge and understanding of the Consequences of Good and Evil so they TRANSGRESSED, even Willi fully;

    AGAIN TRANSGRESSION IS ANOTHER WORD FOR SIN

    RE they Choose the Harder Road to Make Progress, not only for them but for us. We will be Eternally grateful for their Wisdom in Choosing that we may Exist and Learn the Lessons that we are to Learn. THAT WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN BEFORE THE FALL, THEY WOULD HAVE REMAINED IN A STATE OF INNOCENCE AND WE WOULD NOT BE!

    HOW AMAZING! SEEMS THEY WERE AS DUMB AS A DOOR NAIL IT REALLY SUCKS TO BE SO DUMB
    YOUR PERCEPTION PUTS EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER………SEEMS GOD KNEW NOTHING AND WAS JUST A BYSTANDER
    I HAVE NEVER HEARD SO MUCH RUBBISH IN MY LIFE BUT IT WAS QUITE ENTERTAINING THOUGH. QUITE ENTERTAINING

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  • NOT EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THE TERM TRANSGRESSION WAS NOT CALLED A SIN AS YOU QUOTED… 1 Timothy 2:14 (KJV)
    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    THEREFORE, THEY HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIN AND TRANSGRESSION THAN YOU! EVEN THE EARLY APOSTLES AND THOSE AROUND THEM KNEW THE WORD SIN AND WHAT IT MEANT BUT REFERENCING ADAM AND EVE ,THEY STILL CALLED IT A TRANSGRESSION.

    ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE TIME TO SEE AND EXAMINE YOURS!

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  • THE FATHERS PLAN OF SALVATION OR THE PLAN OF HAPPINESS

    There are hints throughout Genesis and the rest of the Old Testament that ancient Israelite prophets understood the Fall’s role in bringing mortality into the world. For example, in Hebrew, Adam means “human” or “humankind,” and Eve means “life,” pointing to how their story was the beginning of human (mortal) life. While the very names Adam and Eve indicate that their story is essential to human life, Adam and Eve acted for all who had chosen to participate in the Father’s great plan of happiness. Their Fall created the conditions needed for our physical birth and for mortal experience and learning outside the presence of God.

    If Adam had not transgressed he would not have fallen, but he would have remained in the garden of Eden and they would have remained in a state of innocence, having no joy. But, all things have been done in the wisdom of him who knows all things. But to what end were we created? We were created with the express purpose and potential of experiencing a fulness of joy. Our birthright—and the purpose of our great voyage on this earth—is to seek and experience eternal happiness. Indeed, all may and will certainly have joy, if they will but choose “the good part”. In all of this, none other object is most important save it be the everlasting welfare of our souls. Heavenly Father is able to accomplish these two great goals—the immortality and eternal life of man—

    GOD’S HAPPINESS

    First question: What do you suppose is the greatest kind of happiness possible? For me, the answer to this question is, God’s happiness.

    This leads to another question: What is our Heavenly Father’s happiness?

    This may be impossible to answer because His ways are not our ways. “For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are [God’s] ways higher than [our] ways, and [His] thoughts [higher] than [our] thoughts.” Isiah 55:8-9

    Though we cannot understand the meaning of all things, we do know that [God] loves his children because He has said, John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. In other words this is his work and his glory is to bring to pass the immortality and eternal life of man.

    https://stlydiasplace.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54fab57118833022ad35b1ad1200c-pi

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  • Re NOT EVEN IN THE NEW TESTAMENT THE TERM TRANSGRESSION WAS NOT CALLED A SIN AS YOU QUOTED… 1 Timothy 2:14 (KJV)
    14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

    DID YOU GO TO SCHOOL?
    WHERE? AT THE PIPE?
    WHEN ? IN AUGUST?
    WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION? A HAIR SPLITTER AND PICKER OF WILTS?

    DID THE WOMAN SIN IN GENESIS 3 WHEN SHE WAS DECIEVED BY THE SERPENT AND DOUBTED GOD AND ATE THE FRUIT?
    WELL IN 1 Timothy 2:14, THIS SAME EVENT IS CALLED A TRANSGRESSION
    IN ROMANS 3 IT IS CALLED “ COMING SHORT” OR “MISSING THE MARK”
    COMING SHORT” OR “MISSING THE MARK” OR SIN OR TRANSGREESION= THE SAME THING!

    RE THEREFORE, THEY HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SIN AND TRANSGRESSION THAN YOU! EVEN THE EARLY APOSTLES AND THOSE AROUND THEM KNEW THE WORD SIN AND WHAT IT MEANT BUT REFERENCING ADAM AND EVE ,THEY STILL CALLED IT A TRANSGRESSION. ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE TIME TO SEE AND EXAMINE YOURS!

    PERHAPS YOU NEED TO GO AND STUDY CANONICITY AND BIBLIOLOGY AND UNDERSTAND HOW WE GOT OUR TRANSLATED BIBLE

    SOME MIGHT CALL YOU AND IDIOT
    OTHERS MIGHT CALL YOU A MORON
    OTHERS STILL MIGHT CALL YOU A FOOL
    WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? BARE SEMANTICS.

    WHY DON’T YOU READ VINCENT OR WEIS OR ZODIATES OR BARCLAY OR ANY OF THE EXPERTS IN NEW TESTAMENT GREEK WHO BY THEIR WORK HAVE GIVEN THEIR READERS A MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORDS TRANSLATED INTO THE ENGLISH OF THE KJV FROM THE HEBREW OR GREEK

    NOW GO TO ROMANS 5

    1 2 Wherefore, as by one man (ADAM) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

    SO DID ADAM SIN OR DID HE TRANSGRESS? WHICH?
    SEEMS YOU HAVE YOUR QUATRE CORDOR ALL IN A TWIST!

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  • GP YOU HAVE JUST PROVEN FREEDOMS POINT BY THE VERY SCRIPTURE YOU QUOTED…ROMANS 5

    1 2 Wherefore, as by one man (ADAM) sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

    The Scripture is a Clear as Night is From Day…It said because of Adam Actions the Fall came into being which Necessitates that Sin entered the world AFTER THE FALL…And the Scripture Still Refers to Adams Actions as a Transgression and Not as a Sin.

    And you Further Quoted in verse 14… Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

    YOUR LESSON THIS WEEK WAS SUPPOSED TO BE ON TYPES, WELL HERE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

    Point 1 …In the Same Sentence mentioned is very Deep Doctrine that it Likened Adam to Christ who Did not Sin and said “who is the figure (a Type) of him that was to come.”

    Point 2 Adam is Likened to Christ as a Savior. He Initiated the Plan of Redemption and Christ Sealed and Paid the Price for All Mankind by the Atonement.

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  • Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come

    ANYONE CAN SEE THAT THIS VERSE IS SAYING IN PERFECT ENGLISH THAT DEATH REIGNED OVER THEM THAT HAD NOT SINNED IN THE SAME WAY THAT ADAM SINNED OR TRANSGRESSED

    IT MUST REALLY SUCK TO BE SO DUMB

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  • RE Point 2 Adam is Likened to Christ as a Savior. He Initiated the Plan of Redemption and Christ Sealed and Paid the Price for All Mankind by the Atonement.

    THIS IS RUBBISH AND YOU CANT SUPPORT THIS BY SCRIPTURE
    ADAM IS THE OPPOSITE OR ANTI THESIS TO CHRIST
    ADAM DID NOT Initiate the Plan of Redemption CF GENESISIS 3:5

    WOMAN YOU ARE WAY OUT YOU CAN NOT SUPPORT YOUR RUBBISH BY SCRIPTURE, RIGHTLY DIVIDED IN ITS CONTEXT
    DAVID WAS RIGHT NOT TO LET YOU MISLEAD THE PEOPLE

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  • I LOOK FORWARD TO SUNDAY SERMONS FOR THE DUMMIES ON BU AND HOPE WE WOULD GET MORE TUESDAY SERMONS FOR THE ENLIGHTENED.

    GP YOU HAVE A GOOD EVENING!

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  • And this is why she is so vex with you Dr. GP

    And comes to every single blog you post to utter her abysmal stupidity.

    Bovine excrement

    You are learning to tolerate the idiocy, that is kind and charitable, I have not yet gotten to your level of tolerance.

    And lest I sin, I rather give her a wide berth

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  • Piece
    i REALLY TRY
    EVEN THOUGH SHE TRIES TO DISRUPT EVERY SUNDAY
    AND SHE CAN NOT SUPPORT HER OUTRAGEOUS POSITIONS BY ANY SCRIPTURES AT ALL. I RESPOND TO HER BECAUSE I CANT LET FALSE TEACHING GO OUT ON THE BLOG

    PEOPLE MAY DISAGREE BUT CERTAIN FUNDAMENTALS OF THE FAITH CAN NOT BE COMPROMISED

    I CAN NOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS VERSE THAT SIN AND TRANSGRESSION IS THE SAME

    Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come

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  • I CAN NOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND HOW SHE CAN NOT SEE THAT IN THIS VERSE THAT SIN AND TRANSGRESSION IS THE SAME
    Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam’s transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come

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  • It may be FC has a different theology.

    I discovered for example that Quakers did not believe in Baptism or Communion.

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  • re It may be FC has a different theology.

    I discovered for example that Quakers did not believe in Baptism or Communion.

    IF YOU ARE SINCERELY FOLLOWING THE BIBLE YOU CANT HAVE a different theology.YOUR DOGMA MAY BE DIFFERENT, BUT YOUR DOCTRINE CAN NOT DIFFER.

    IF THE QUAKERS DONT BELIEVE IN BAPTISM BY IMMERSION & COMMUNION, THEY ARE ERRING. AFTER ALL BAPTISM BY IMMERSION & COMMUNION ARE THE TWO ORDINANCES OF THE CHURCH ACCORDING TO CLEAR BIBLE TEACHING

    FC IS DISHONEST & DISRUPTIVE AND DOES NOT ALWAYS RIGHTLY DIVIDE THE WORD OF TRUTH

    WHEN I WROTE AN ESSAY ON ANY TOPIC IN MY THEOLOGICAL STUDIES I HAD TO SUPPORT MY ANSWERS BY 30 SCRIPTURES

    HERE IS AN EXAMPLE FROM A QUESTION IN A COURSE ON THE GEOGRAPHY OF BIBLE LANDS

    God was able to move Israel from Egypt, but he was unable to move Egypt from Israel. Support your answer by a minimum of 30 scriptures.

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  • DR GP my fellow myope and apostate.

    You said and I quote

    “…I CAN NOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND THAT IN THIS VERSE THAT SIN AND TRANSGRESSION IS THE SAME…”

    De ole man has learnt many things in my life and I will share one with you

    Hoe many letters are in the word sin? 3!

    And how many letters are in transgression?

    13!!!

    When you went to school in sand blizzards the simple fact that those two words ARE THE SAME will never register with her because her reasoning skills “ARE POPPED OUT!”

    You are accustomed to people who have a modicum of understanding but de ole man has dealt with people who, were it not that they have a birth certificate and were verified by a midwife, could easily be mistaken for cro magnon man.

    You CANNOT REASON WITH THESE BEASTS OF BURDEN and, if you have the misfortune to spend too long amongst them, the idiocy rubs off.

    I suggest that you use Saran wrap in front of your computer screen to protect your eyes and medical gloves when you are looking at her comments or responding to her LEST IT RUBS OFF ON YOU!

    A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH

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  • @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here thank you kindly

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  • @ GP November 10, 2019 12:54 PM
    “Miller
    IT IS OBVIOUS THAT AT SOME TIME YOU READ THE BIBLE
    I JUST CANT UNDERSTAND HOW YOU COME AWAY WITH YOUR WEIRD INTERPRETATIONS
    BUT I AM NOT ANGRY WITH YOU”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    So why are you ‘purposely’ avoiding the gravamen of my ‘naive’ question?

    Why do you refer to the ‘nosy’ interpretation of a fairy tale as “weird”?

    Would you also refer to those fables about Apollo, Icarus, Narcissus, Romulus and Remus, King Arthur, Goldilocks and Alice in Wonderland as weird nonsense but are prepared to give a pass to those written in the Judeo book of similar myths and legends as the Truth according to your god Yahweh and not Thoth?

    You still cannot explain to us the origins of the Adam & Eve story.

    Did Adam & Eve pass on this tale about their disobedience leading to pregnancy and set in the mythical garden of Eden by word of mouth to their white sons Cain & Seth and their wives who had to be their own sisters whom they got ‘to know’ and subsequently begat Chinese, Indian, Eskimo and black children?

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  • RE So why are you ‘purposely’ avoiding the gravamen of my ‘naive’ question?

    I SEEM TO DETECT AN OXYMORON HERE SIR IN THE PHRASE gravamen of my ‘naive’ question

    RE You still cannot explain to us the origins of the Adam & Eve story.

    I BELIEVE SIMPLY THAT ALL……2Tim.3 Verses 16 to 17

    All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2Tim.3 Verses 16 to 17

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