Sweet Sunday Sermon – THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE NAMES IN GENESIS FIVE

Submitted by Dr. GP

Adam

Adam’s name means man. As the first man, that seems straight forward enough.

Seth

Adam’s son was named Seth, which means appointed. Eve said, “For God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

We have no real idea as to why these names were chosen for their children. Often they may have referred to circumstances at birth, and so on.

Enosh

Seth’s son was called Enosh, which means mortal, frail, or miserable. It is from the root anash, to be incurable, used of a wound, grief, woe, sickness, or wickedness.

It was in the days of Enosh that men began to defile the name of the Living God.

Kenan

Enosh’s son was named Kenan, which can mean sorrow, dirge, or elegy. (The precise denotation is somewhat elusive; some study aids unfortunately presume that Kenan is synonymous with Cainan.)

Balaam, looking down from the heights of Moab, uses a pun upon the name of the Kenites when he prophesies their destruction.

Mahalalel

Kenan’s son was Mahalalel, from Mahalal which means blessed or praise; and El, the name for God. Thus, Mahalalel means the Blessed God. Often Hebrew names include El, the name of God, as Dan-i-el, “God is my Judge”, etc.

Jared

Mahalalel’s son was named Jared, from the verb yaradh, meaning shall come down.7

Enoch

Jared’s son was named Enoch, which means teaching, or commencement. He was the first of four generations of preachers. In fact, the earliest recorded prophecy was by Enoch, which amazingly enough deals with the Second Coming of Christ (although it is quoted in the Book of Jude in the New Testament):

Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, “Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against.”
Jude 14, 15

Methuselah

Enoch was the father of Methuselah, Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah.8 Apparently, Enoch received the prophecy of the Great Flood, and was told that as long as his son was alive, the judgment of the flood would be withheld. The year that Methuselah died, the flood came.

Enoch, of course, never died: he was translated  (or, if you’ll excuse the expression, raptured ). That’s how Methuselah can be the oldest man in the Bible, yet he died before his father!

Lamech

Methuselah’s son was named Lamech, a root still evident today in our own English word, lament or lamentation. Lamech suggests despairing.

(This name is also linked to the Lamech in Cain’s line who inadvertently killed his son Tubal-Cain in a hunting incident.)

Noah

Lamech, of course, is the father of Noah, which is derived from nachamto bring relief or comfort, as Lamech himself explains in Genesis 5:29.

The Composite List

Now let’s put it all together:

Hebrew English
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort.

That’s rather remarkable:

Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the Blessed God shall come down teaching (that) His death shall bring (the) despairing rest.

Here’s the Gospel hidden within a genealogy in Genesis!

20 comments

  • Came and consumed my early Sunday food Dr GP

    While not imputed by your text today de ole man would wish to mention this aside (AGAIN)

    Naming one’s child

    De ole man is old now and forgets the part of the Bhavagad Gita that speaks of the power of the name of Narayana and I could not find it using an internet search

    I found it Dr. GP.

    “…Ajamila is the main character of a story in canto 6 of the Bhagavata Purana.

    In Hinduism, the story of Ajamila is used to illustrate that by uttering God’s divine name, there is hope for even the sinful to be redeemed from their propensity to commit sins…”

    First, I must mention that in my Search for Our Lord, de ole man has looked far and deep therefore I will be au fait with many different “pathways”

    Secondly, I am one who will always say that the Walls of Jericho falling used resonance therefore IT MATTERS IF I CALL MY CHILD “daemon” or “Jared” or Jehu.

    But de ole man digresseth…

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  • Piece

    Genesis 1-2: all is well and good
    Genesis 3 sin enters ; first promise of a Sviour
    Genesis 4 an account of the ungodly offspring of Cain
    Genesis 5 an account of the godly offspring of Seth

    The discussion of the names of the godly offspring of Seth is very interesting in my opinion

    I dont have a clue about the issues you raise.
    However, in Ungers text an the Archaeology of the Old testament, it is recorded that the Walls of Jericho fell outward, making it easier to climb up into the city.

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  • @ GP – You may find this interesting – about the name of God (from daily zohar : https://dailyzohar.com/daily-zohar-3246/ )

    @ D of Barbados Underground – can you check your unapproved bucket – there is a trump post gone awol mia from London Underground

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  • @ GP January 19, 2020 9:49 AM
    “Genesis 4 an account of the ungodly offspring of Cain
    Genesis 5 an account of the godly offspring of Seth”
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Now what in the world of tarnation does this have to do the vast majority of the people on this planet called Mother Earth?

    Which ‘race’ of people are the “ungodly offspring of Cain”?

    Is it the black Africans, the Indians the Chinese or the many tribes in the Amazon basin whose only book of Genesis can be found written in stone left by aliens?

    Whose offspring did the Egyptians of the same Bible belong to?

    Are the Jews and Europeans, like the Romans who crucified your sweet Jesus, the offspring of Seth?

    You are really taking your Jewish mythology a bit too far and rather close to the intellectual cliff of madness.

    Can’t you decipher that both Cain and Seth had to be in the same boat of ungodliness?
    For both had to impregnate either their own sister or old mother Eve for people like you who came off the ‘Cain’ family tree to be in existence.

    How does that sound to you other than a fairytale of nonsense?

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  • Maybe you should read the two chapters, and ask God for discernment.
    Clearly there are two sets of folk in the world up to this day: the Godly and the ungodly.

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  • GP Genesis is an allegory.
    The dead white (albino)man on a cross that you worship is not the creator/ God.

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  • (Quote):
    GP Genesis is an allegory. (Unquote).
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    The thing about this brainwashed African-descended ‘child’ is that he fancies himself to be a student of the school of medicine; an institution founded by the polymath Imhotep.

    He is ignorantly committed to a profession which uses the same serpent-so deprecated and despised in the mythical garden of Eden as a source of evil- as its very symbol of cure and wellness.

    He is so stark starring committed to his beliefs in myths and fairy tales that he is blissfully unaware that every culture, past and present, has its own “Creation story”.

    If only the intellectually stunted man would have a read of the Sumerian mythology he might just come to the ‘Christian’ understanding that his Judeo-Christian book of Genesis about Noah and his Nature-made flood is nothing but a plagiarized version lifted straight out of the ‘epic’ tale of Gilgamesh.

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  • John 7
    17 If any man will do his [God the Father’s] will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
    18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

    I want to focus on verse 17 for just a moment. The bottom line of what Jesus is saying here is that faith is a moral issue, not an intellectual issue. He is saying, “If a person honestly and sincerely wants to do God’s will, he will sense within himself a recognition of the teaching of the Word of God as the truth when he hears it.”

    If you are seeking God’s will, if you are seeking information from God on any particular subject, if you sincerely want to know what God has to say, as you read the Word of God, you will have confidence that that is God’s message. God places that in our hearts. This is what Jesus Himself was teaching. How do we know the Word of God is true? Because God quickens our spirit as we read it. The Spirit of God bears witness with our spirits that we are the children of God as we read the Word of God.

    We often hear about people who, when you talk about things of the Lord, say, “Well, intellectually, I am just not able to believe those kinds of things. Intellectually, I cannot accept that this man Jesus was the Son of God or that the Bible is really God’s miraculously revealed Word.” But according to what Jesus says, in verse 17, a person like that is unable to believe because he is not willing to believe.

    That person knows, whether he can put into words, whether he can even bring into his conscious mind or not, that person knows that if this is the Word of God, then he is going to have to change some things in his life and in his belief system, or her life or her belief system. People will not bend themselves to the Word of God because they do not want to acknowledge the authority of God in their lives, and that is what Jesus is talking about here in verse 17. If anyone will do the will of God, He will know.

    Someone has said that God doesn’t send His will home on approval. God doesn’t say, “I’ll prove to you this is the truth if you will do it.” What God says is, “If you are willing to do what I tell you to do, then I will show you that it is My Word.” It is not the other way around. We have a tendency to say, “God, show me Your will, and if I like it, I will do it. God teach me your Word, and if it fits in with my thinking, I’ll buy it and teach it to others.” God says, “No. If you are willing to do My Word and practice what I tell you, if you are willing to bend your will to My will, then I will show you what the truth is, and you will know that it is the truth.”

    Jesus said this same thing in John, chapter 3, verse 20, from a little different standpoint. He said:
    John 3
    20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
    It sounds dogmatic. It sounds narrow-minded, but God’s Word says that the person who is not willing to accept the Word of God is not willing to accept it because he is not willing to do it. That is why he finds some reason to find flaws with the Word of God. That is why he finds some reason not to accept the Word of God. He knows that it will expose his deeds to the light, and he will have to make a change one way or the other.

    By the same token, when a person is willing to submit to the will of God, he discovers that God’s truth is backed up by all kinds of reliable evidence and facts. But, a person will not be able to look at those facts and hear that evidence if he is not willing to bend his will to the will of God. That is why I say that faith in Jesus Christ is basically a moral issue, not an intellectual issue. We can load all the evidence in the world on the back of a person who is not willing to submit to the Word of God, and he will not accept it, nor will he believe it; but once a person is willing to say, “I will do what God tells me to do,” and accepts that mental attitude, then it will be simple to show the historical, scientific and all other kinds of facts that demonstrate that the Bible really is the Word of God.

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  • ” ..sculpture of an unknown Egyptian pharaoh’s head, found at the ancient city of Hazor in Israel, dates back around 4,300 years…”

    https://www.livescience.com/60270-ancient-statue-head-depicts-mystery-pharaoh.html.

    Livescience : Aug/2017.

    The appearance of the Pharoah is clearly African.

    GP please explain this mystery.

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  • Lesson;
    The ‘seal’ of the covenant is circumcision.
    The rewards of being part of the covenant are greater than any kind of pain or discomfort.

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  • @ Dr. GP

    Let me explain yesterday’s post

    I ***!

    So, while i *** I met a murderer who was to have been incarcerated for 90 years but ***

    He adopted Islam in prison SO HE WOULD NOT BE RAPED!

    He speaks of his CONVERSION to Christianity by a route that I, having *** absolutely identify with!

    I believe absolutely in Jesus the Christ, our Lord!

    What i cannot and will not do is decry the pathway of other religions because there are Buddhists, and transcendentialists and scientologists who are men and women of principal and while the do do serve God, do the Will of our Father, honour father and mother, do not kill, steal, nor commit false witness and while not sinless DO SINCERELY SEEK TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!

    my point yesterday sought to introduce 3 things.

    1.Sound and its effect on physical objects

    2.names and their meanings and the effect of calling children Stoopid names and

    3.the efficacy of calling on God, the myth perpetuated by men regarding our “monopoly of each of our gods” and the pantheistic manifestation of God across diverse religions

    Every day, as I ***, and I encounter the wretched of the earth, I am humbled BECAUSE HE HATH BEEN FAITHFUL TO ME!

    But one thing that I keep foremost in my mind BECAUSE I HAVE TO, being a denizen on this planet, a man who is saddened when my brothers kill my brothers, in homes, on streets, in parliaments and in the swathe of drones, i always keep these words on “my frontlet”

    “…15.As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

    16.And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd…”

    But this is just me and my way my fellow myope AND LIKE YOU, I AM CONFIDENT THAT ONLY HE CAN AND WILL JUDGE!

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  • Are the Jews and Europeans, like the Romans who crucified your sweet Jesus, the offspring of Seth?

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    Noah comes out of Seth and all mankind are descended from Noah.

    The question answers itself doesn’t it?

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  • Two choices, godly and ungodly!!

    Life and death.

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  • @ John January 20, 2020 7:57 AM

    You are just nothing but a child believing in fairy tales and a biblical Santa Claus, aren’t you little johnny?

    So did all the descendants of Cain, the ungodly lot, die in the eponymous planetary flood?

    Why do the same “ungodly lot” walk the earth today?

    Did the Australian Aborigines and the kangaroos come from Noah and his cruise liner that sailed the seven seas 7,000 years ago to return the two Eskimos and two polar bears to their igloos they took with them into the ark?

    Now please don’t get your baby knickers in a twist and display your viral tantrums by tell us Noah was the first Quaker who sailed all the way to New Zealand to save the kiwi bird from drowning the same way his Quaker descendants saved the primitive beasts called west Africans from slavery.

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  • The most difficult thing in the world is to teach the truth to anyone who already has set, pre-conceived ideas about something. In other words, “Don’t confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up.” It was true in Jesus’ day and it is true today.

    If someone wants to believe that the gods of all the religions are basically the same god and there are several different ways of getting to Heaven, the chances are one in a million that the truth you tell them will be accepted and that their minds will be changed. It is simply the nature of sin to dig in and be entrenched in what one wants rather than embrace what is good or true.
    But if you go ahead and speak this truth in love, no matter how a person responds, you will plant the seed in the mind of such a person. Then the Holy Spirit can water and grow it over a period of time. And one day the seed you planted may grow into a full-fledged follower of Jesus Christ.

    In John 7:24 Jesus calls them to a sincere attempt to find the truth when He tells them to look beneath the surface when they are evaluating something. He tells them to use good judgment so they might evaluate a matter correctly.

    here is the truth
    Acts 4:12
    Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    1 Timothy 2:5
    For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

    7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

    Romans 5:8-12 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

    9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

    10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

    11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

    12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

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  • Are you a rejecter or someone who wants to know Jesus better? Or are you hiding from Christ and thinking He is hiding from you?

    Remember, when Jesus told the leaders that one day they would seek Him and not find Him, He was talking to those who rejected Him, those Jewish leaders who did not really want to know Him.

    The Bible tells us, “Draw near to God and He will draw near to you.” (James 4:8 NAS). God also says in many places throughout the Bible that if we truly seek Him, we will truly find Him. God does not hide from anyone who really wants to know Him.
    For example, Jeremiah 29:13 (NAS) “And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart.”

    This reminds me of a poem written many years ago entitled The Hound of Heaven. It was written by Francis Thompson who lived in England between 1859 – 1907. He was a considered by himself and others to be a failure for a long period in his life. He was also described by some as a “tortured soul.” He had been a one-time opium addict and he eventually died of tuberculosis. Later in his life he began writing poetry, one of which is a rather lengthy one entitled “The Hound of Heaven.” It is too long to quote here completely, but it begins: “I fled Him [meaning God], down the nights and down the days; I fled Him, down the arches of the years; I fled Him, down the labyrinthine ways Of my own mind; and in the mist of tears I hid from Him. . . ” The gist of the remainder of the poem is that no matter where he ran, or where he hid, though he sought contentment in all that Nature has to offer, though he spent a life indulging himself, it all left emptiness and a bitter taste. But then he hears a voice, God’s voice, pointing out that he had been seeking can be found in God’s arms. God gives him an invitation: “Rise, clasp My hand, and come.” . . . . “Ah, fondest, blindest, weakest, I am He Whom thou seekest!” The “Hound of Heaven” wants you to rest in His arms as well. Give up your game of Hide or Seek today and let yourself be found by Him who loves you more than any than anyone else ever can or will.

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  • I would like to tell you a story about an atheist who was driven from a very early age to become a success in life. In fact, I believe I could even say that he not only wanted to be successful, but he also wanted to be more successful than anyone else. He felt that if he could not become the best at everything he did people would have no respect for him.

    As a young man he was blessed with natural athletic ability, which helped him to achieve a certain popularity in both high school and college. This was very satisfying to him in many ways because it made him feel like people truly respected him and valued his abilities. But inside he felt very much alone and worried constantly about keeping up his image so that he would not lose the popularity and respect he had attained. He felt that if people knew what he was really like, they probably would not want anything to do with him. He was very much like an actor on a stage wearing a mask of confidence. But when he was alone with himself he felt very uncomfortable about the emptiness he felt inside.

    He searched and searched to find whatever it was that could fill that emptiness and satisfy these inner longings, but he could not find it. After he graduated from college and entered the work force, he thought the answer would come if he became very successful in business, which would lead to wealth so that he could have whatever he wanted and truly be happy. He plunged into the corporate world and made rapid advancements. Although he had still not found what he was looking for after this initial success, he was convinced that more success and more money would eventually get him to where he wanted to be. It never happened. In fact the more money he made and the more responsibility he was given as he became ever more successful, the more miserable he became.

    He had no interest in God. In fact he thought Christians were little more than weaklings who needed the crutch of religion in order to exist. He felt they had no backbone and he actually found them to be rather pathetic. If anyone ever brought up the subject of God, he was the first one to tell them that God was a fantasy made up by people that did not have the strength or courage to take care of themselves. In fact on one occasion he made the statement: “If there’s a God, why isn’t He man enough to come down here right now and show Himself to me?”

    Then came the day when he made his move to really grab hold of the gold ring, a business venture that would set him up financially for life. He was confident in his ability to pull it off and charged full steam ahead. Things went very well initially, but then there was a turning point. A few miscalculations and the whole structure came tumbling down around him. He lost everything: house, cars, summer home, boat, a number of other material possessions, and of course all of his savings. He was devastated and broke. He began isolating himself from the people in his life and became increasingly depressed. Why do I tell you this story? Because I believe to one degree or another it represents the story of most people who reject the truth of God as presented in the Bible, or refuse even to ever open a Bible.

    As children we grow up in an environment that is primarily influenced by parents or guardians who create a foundation for our values. Some of us are given a solid foundation in which we are nurtured by parents who know and serve Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. That foundation provides the strength on which to build a similar life in which we may find peace, joy, and contentment even in times of trial. They also have the assurance that eventually they will be with Christ in Heaven for eternity. Such people are emotionally and spiritually mature and capable of contributing in a positive way to their community. Then we have those who are raised by parents or guardians who do not have a relationship with Christ. Their early years may have been spent in a home where they were taught that god can be whoever their value system defines him to be, and that all religions are basically the same. They may have been taught that the Bible is a book just like any other book written by people. Some of you may have been raised in homes where there was constant arguing. Perhaps one parent was even physically abusive toward the other parent or even toward you as a child. There may have been sexual abuse of some kind in the home. Possibly there was verbal abuse, such as swearing at you or telling you that you are no good or will not amount to anything. Such children grow up with a very bad self-image as well as various emotional disorders, some of which are severe.

    As children enter school, some are in wholesome environments and develop good, satisfying relationships with fellow students and close friends. These are usually the same children who come from emotionally secure homes. Those that come from emotionally disturbed homes have a tendency to connect with friends who have similar backgrounds. Some are looking to just have fun and seek to find it in television, movies, and video games. As they get older they may get involved in much more destructive behaviors, which they have been led to believe, by the example of their parents, friends, and the general culture, to be fun. Such things as drugs, alcohol, sex, and so many other lifedestroying lifestyles. I believe that is the way our culture functions today

    People throughout history who may have come from such dysfunctional homes and dysfunctional relationships have in some way experienced hurt. Hurt is a very difficult emotion to deal with. Even a little bit of hurt in our lives can affect how we relate to other people and how we relate to God. More severe hurt often results in anger or rage, seriously limiting one’s ability to establish and maintain healthy relationships and find any satisfaction with their lives. Such people will quite often not be able to trust others and that inability to trust can carry over into how they feel about a God who could allow such things to happen to them.

    Now I suggest to you that many today are represented all these various backgrounds. Some, like our atheist friend, because of their backgrounds would not accept Jesus’ teaching because they simply did not want to hear anything that would interfere with their self-serving desires., because of their backgrounds and the goals they established early on in life, they may have been focused on those things they wanted and looked for a god who would tolerate what they wanted out of life, not a god who set the standards and expected them to be obeyed.

    Others of course, who knew their Old Testament and could easily relate to a loving God, might well accept Jesus’ teaching. There would be of course, both then and now, a small number in each background that would respond exactly the opposite for whatever reason. But on the whole what I have described would be fairly typical. And no matter how well Jesus countered all their arguments, if they wanted what they wanted and did not want to change, they would not change their minds no matter what Jesus said or did.

    This is what happened to our atheist. After losing everything and even considering suicide, he got down on his knees one night in complete despair and he called out to God for help. Here was a man who claimed he did not believe in God, but inside of Him there was that awareness that God puts in each of us that He exists. This atheist prayed, “God, if you’re there, I need you, please help me!” That prayer was the beginning of a new life. You see God is waiting for you to ask Him into your life.

    He will not begin to change your life and deal with your pain until you ask Him in. It took a couple of years for our atheist to come to faith in Christ, but His salvation began to take shape the day after his prayer. God took him to a church where he began to learn God’s Word from the Bible and establish relationships with solid believers. Soon He was reading his Bible two to three hours per day. He was getting involved in various service ministries and he began to understand the importance of prayer in his relationship with Christ.

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  • If only the intellectually stunted man would have a read of the Sumerian mythology he might just come to the ‘Christian’ understanding that his Judeo-Christian book of Genesis about Noah and his Nature-made flood is nothing but a plagiarized version lifted straight out of the ‘epic’ tale of Gilgamesh.

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    Have you as an intellectual giant considered the possibility that the Sumerians might have been the descendants of Seth, through Noah?

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  • @ Dr GP

    I shall try to be brief as I go south to come north.

    Somewhere in the world it is tomorrow, 24 hours ahead of us

    And simultaneous to their day we have night.

    Some people bathe 3 times a day, some twice, some once a day, and some of these Americans bathe ONCE A WEEK!

    That is by choice! They are nasty, BY CHOICE!

    IN Yemen and othe ME places there are people who, being bombed by US manufactured munitions HAVE NOT BATHED FOR WEEKS!

    So when those people hear the word American Dr. GP, all the so called Christian that we claim to be, we are seen as the children of the devil, and they dont know us NOR WE THEM!

    What is my point? This is a classic case of ignorance where one set of people DO NOT KNOW ANOTHER SET OF PEOPLE BUT THE ARE ON AUTO PILOT HATRED!

    That is a man built system where lack of knowledge leads to misconceptions

    My point is that I CANNOT RECONCILE WITH A GOD WHO, IN A WORLD WHERE ONE DOES NOT KNOW OF HIM, because of geography, WOULD BE SO CRUEL TO DENY SALVATION TO SOMEONE WHO IS IN “DARKNESS” while we are in light!

    Furthermore, when the sun shines on the other side of the world, even at night, we have alternative lighting systems euphemism for other religions!

    I do not decry my God and His Son and the Holy Spirit but I also cannot accept an ensuing exclusivity which AUTO DOOMS DENIZENS OF OTHER CLIMES purely by virtue of where a person is born!

    That smacks to me of a Diety THAT DID NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL CREATION and is purging what He NEVER HAD CONTROL OVER! Those would be the people who have another religion!

    I accept that this may be the single point we may not see eye to eye on BUT I HOPE YOU CAN SEE WHERE I AM GOING WITH THIS POINT.

    If a Muslim is brought up worshipping their God, am I to understand that all those who died before christianity was introduced to them whenever, are doomed?

    And if, they are not then it suggests that, whatever we do, DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE

    Its is already predetermined anyways!

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