The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – Anti-social and Distasteful…but Criminal?

“…[P]unishment for mere mental states is intrinsically unjust because such punishment would be a form of mind control – Gabriel Mendlow, “Why is it wrong to punish thoughts?” [2018] 127 Yale L. J. 2342

It is by now beyond dispute that the freedom of expression constitutionally guaranteed to everyone is not absolute. Not only are there the express limitations or qualifications provided in the Constitution itself, but there also exist limitations imposed by common law and statute and by considerations of decency, situational appropriateness and what may be generally regarded as good societal conduct.

Given the significance of free expression in a democratic society, these limitations are closely policed and in the inevitable tension between the freedom and its proscription, it may be observed that the modern trend bends towards the increase of the freedom rather than towards its diminution.

As President Saunders of the CCJ had cause to observe in a recent decision-

Because it underpins and reinforces many of the other fundamental rights, freedom of expression is rightly regarded as the cornerstone of any democracy. A regime that unduly constrains free speech produces harm, not just to the individual whose expression is denied, but [also] to society as a whole. On the one hand, the human spirit is stultified. On the other, social progress is retarded. The fates of brilliant persons like Galileo, and Darwin, and countless others, sung and unsung, betray a familiar pattern in the history of humankind. Today’s heresy may easily become tomorrow’s gratefully embraced orthodoxy…

Indeed, in light of the proliferation of modern communication through social media, with its inherent anonymity permitting the expression of even more ideas that we might disagree with either in form or in substance, it has become necessary for us to reconsider the nature of our freedom of expression and to examine whether our society is more likely to benefit from an extrapolation or from a further attenuation of this freedom.

According to the introduction to The Free Speech Century, a text edited by two of the leading First Amendment scholars in the US, While vastly expanding the opportunities to participate in public discourse, contemporary means of communication have also arguably contributed to political polarization, foreign influence in our democracy, and the proliferation of ‘fake’ news.”

It is further suggested there that we shall need to interrogate “To what extent do these concerns pose new threats to our understanding of ‘the freedom of speech, and of the press’? To what extent do they call for serious reconsideration of some central doctrines and principles on which our current First Amendment [sc. freedom of expression] jurisprudence is based?”

I, likewise, pose this query here in the wake of the news item earlier this week where a young man was convicted of sending an electronic communication that was “menacing in character, intending to cause or reckless as to whether it caused annoyance inconvenience, distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends it or its contents to be communicated”. This conduct is criminalized by section 14 of the local Computer Misuse Act 2005. According to one newspaper report, the annoyance, inconvenience, distress and anxiety would be caused to the members of the Royal Barbados Police Force.

The matter was tried summarily in the Magistrate’s Court and the accused confessed to the offence anyway so of course the issue as to whether this provision disproportionately compromises the constitutional guarantee of freedom of expression was never broached.

However, I have long held the view that this specific criminalization of expression would not pass a test of strict scrutiny so as to be held constitutionally compatible. First, it appears to particularize electronic communications as being somehow more offensive than other modes. To my best knowledge, there is no equivalent offence for causing mere annoyance or inconvenience especially to others by ordinary oral communication. Should every opinion that might annoy us be made criminal? Or is this a necessarily incidental hazard of societal existence?

Moreover, the section does not stipulate that the annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety produced must have been a reasonable response to the communication by the individual affected. A comment from the American Civil Liberties Union seems apposite-

Our Constitution protects hateful speech, yes — but on the theory that truly free speech means the best ideas will win out. We need [people] trained to really listen to ideas they hate — and respond with better ones.

I, too, agree that the message used by the young man in this case was obscene and distasteful, but strictly construed, he did no more than express an outrageous perverted desire without threatening to accomplish it personally. Ought a police officer of reasonable fortitude to have been annoyed, inconvenienced, distressed or made anxious by the communication? Ought the accused to be punished for his anti-social, perverted thoughts?

I dedicate this week’s column to the memory of my father who was called to higher service on Tuesday of last week at the age of 93. It was he who taught me to read and he was an avid fan of my weekly musings. Until he became too ill to do so, he patiently and lovingly collected every one of them. May his spirit travel home in safety and peace.

100 comments

  • “On the one hand, the human spirit is stultified. On the other, social progress is retarded.”

    And that is exactly what the BLACK DEMONS in your SLAVE PARLIAMENT have done with the MAJORITY POPULATION……their own black brothers and sisters for 70+ years.

    Like

  • Jeff, Firstly condolences on your loss.

    Secondly, on the issue of freedom (s) and in particular communications, I would think that the acid test is whether such communication, whether oral or written, is demonstrated to cause potential harm to the recipient.

    For such to be criminal, surely it would have to cause potential, likely and immediate harm to the recipient. I include immediate as this increases the likelihood of it being a real threat.

    For such to be civil, aka a libel, surely it would have to be shown to cause harm in whatever form, to the recipient’s image and life.

    In terms of general hate speech i.e. speech which is intended to cause severe disruption with a focus on one segment of society, such that they are ostracised and threatened in mind or physically, there must be a broader interpretation of criminal intent and action.

    Such hate speech may or may nor be interpreted as having an immediate threat, but is of a nature that clearly causes serious harm to one or more groups of people.

    I fully agree that robust and deep discussion is necessary to move a society forward. Restrictions by the state on freedoms, whether movement or communication, are inherently worrying and suspicious.

    However, restrictions that specifically address the threats as noted above are to be expected and respected by responsible citizens and we should act accordingly.

    Like

  • Caswell Franklyn

    Jeff

    I am sorry for your loss.

    I am also troubled by this conviction. I do not believe that the actions of the accused amounts to a criminal offence. Even if it did, I believe that our policemen should be made of much sterner stuff and should not be offended or annoyed by the reported acts. Similarly, I don’t think a person should be convicted of a crime for merely calling a policeman an idiot. But several persons have received their first conviction for doing just that.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Jeff, one more point.

    On President Saunders comment, while I strongly embrace his approach and his point on limitations of free speech, we must also be careful to not accept rubbish and hate speech as merely pushing the envelope and testing societal development.

    The caveat to his references is that those scientists based their approach on investigating, understanding and knowledge. This is far different to an approach based on division and hate or speech directed at one person or segment in society.

    Further, acceptance of their teachings has been based on further work and understanding, over many years.

    Basically, we must not accept any and everything as free speech that merely stretches the society’s collective imagination.

    As with so much, the watchwords must be balance, logic and commonsense.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Sad to say but the law makers and those in authority to pursue justice seems to be grabbing at straws
    Imagine a couple weeks ago the justice system said Charles Herbert was free to go without as much as giving a court trial
    Now a poor man exercise his freedom of speech in a derogatory manner is sent to jail
    History would reveal that barbados failures were systematic of protecting the haves and destroying the have nots

    Like

  • Condolences.

    Like

  • William Skinner

    @ Jeff
    My condolences to you and family on your loss

    Amazingly, right here on BU, I have read similar offerings. Nobody has so far been brought before the courts. I agree with your position.

    Liked by 1 person

  • May I again nominate Jeff and Caswell for national awards for their steadfast dedication in educating the public about law in general and, in Caswell’s case, labour law in particular. I think Jeff should also be made a QC and the UWI should think seriously of awarding Caswell an honorary PhD in laws. Public education is one of the most important things a specialist can do in a democracy.

    Liked by 1 person

  • @Jeff,

    sincere condolences to you and your family.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Sincerest condolences, Jeff!

    Separately

    While Caswell occasionally comments on a limited range of issues

    When it comes to the political it seems he has been muted. No doubt by the dear leader.

    Now! We understand that as political parties go there will be hard limits on what he could say, as compared with before.

    However, to almost entirely withdraw from all the previous positions, through silence, is representative of something else.

    Like

  • The passing of a loved one is never a good feeling but those who have fallen asleep in the Lord would one day rise in Glory
    My deepest sympathy Jeff

    Liked by 1 person

  • In a country filled with lawyers and law enthusiasts, this poor black man could not find a friend of the court to counsel him before pleading.

    In Barbados, free speech, without deep pockets or access to free counsel, is just as elusive as that thing called transparency and accountability.

    Like

  • Jeff, Firstly condolences on your loss.
    **============================xxx======================*

    This is the kind of issue that I do not know where I stand.
    It pains me when I see John Public being disrespectful to police officers and feel the should be punished in some way.

    Some believe that freedom of speech means saying anything that you want when you want to, but they soon find out, that the law has a narrower view.

    On the other hand, I believe the the ‘punishment is often excessive”. Don’t ask me what excessive means.

    Liked by 1 person

  • As for Caswell he comes across as a Chihuahua now he sits amongst the politician

    Like

  • Forgot my manners. Condolences to you and your family Mr. Cumberbatch.

    Like

  • Vincent Codrington

    @ Jeff

    Deepest condolences to you and family on your father’s death. May he rest in Peace and rise in Glory. I am sure he is pleased by the accomplishments in his life,this side of eternity.
    A timely and instructive submission as usual. There will always be a tension between freedom of speech and the effect this freedom has on the targeted person.,intended and unintended. It will always be the adjudicator’s call.

    Like

  • @Vincent

    And it will be left to respected academics like Jeff to dispassionately divide and deposit these thorny issues in the public space to expand the repertoire of decision making options for the ‘adjudicator’.

    Liked by 1 person

  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Condolences to you Dean Jeff.

    A life well lived in to his 93 years no doubt… the joy of having wonderful bondings with an elderly parent is priceless!

    Liked by 1 person

  • And condolences are definitely in order to Jeff and family.

    Like

  • William Skinner

    @ Pacha

    Caswell once stated on BU that he had no interest in being “elected” or “selected” to political office.
    I repeat that he’s a breath of fresh air in the senate and public discourse.
    However, it is a bit too much to expect the brother to be as busy as he used to be on BU. Having accepted office, he must obviously show some restraint.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Sir William Skinner

    Your rejoinder does not at appear unreasonable, at the surface.

    However, when one extrapolates, you will also mean that Caswell is to be loss to all the rest of us, his insights.

    And if we go a little further it may even be assumed, base on logic, that Caswell may well re-emerge as a totally different personage, as systems are want to do.

    We might not even known then, whether the Caswell of yesteryear who we have come to know and respect in indeed the Caswell of today.

    Is this scenario not one of the basic problems in governance?

    Like

  • Sincere condolences to the Professor and his family. Is this elder related to John and Grantley from St. Joseph?

    Like

  • William Skinner

    @ Pacha

    I agree. Let’s just leave the brother alone for a while. He is now a member of the BLP/PdP coalition government that is the latest configuration of the duopoly.

    The Duopoly Rules

    Like

  • de pedantic Dribbler

    Dean Jeff, I look forward to reading one of your legal theses expanding our consideration of “…the nature of our freedom of expression and to examine whether our society is more likely to benefit from an extrapolation or from a further attenuation of this freedom [of expression].”

    Although the young man was not “threatening to accomplish it personally” yet his threat went well beyond any personal fortitude or hardiness of an individual police officer.

    He invited acts of grave body harm against the entire arm of our protective forces.

    That is NOT acceptable .

    It is hyperbole to link his behaviour to “conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state” … better known as sedition but is it a bridge that far to be crossed in a certain climate such as this.
    Or

    Like

  • de pedantic Dribbler

    …Our freedom of speech must be protected but it can’t be a free call to recklessly ridiculous commentary bordering of social unrest.

    I gone.

    Like

  • QUESTIONS ON RISING IN GLORY

    WHAT DOES RISING IN GLORY MEAN?

    WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ?
    WHAT IS THIS EVENT PROPERLY CALLED?
    WHAT WILL CAUSE THIS EVENT TO OCCUR?

    CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THESE ANSWERS?

    Like

  • Well…one US court has decides you can cuss out a cop in one state, me thinks they would all draw the line at threatening to kill them though….even if done in anger and frustration as happened with the due in Bim..

    “On June 2nd, the 8th US Circuit Court of Appeals upheld a US District Court decision that refused to throw out a civil lawsuit against an Arkansas police officer who arrested a man who yelled a curse word at the officer as he conducted a traffic stop on another citizen.

    What Happened
    According to court documents, in 2015 Arkansas State Trooper Lagarian Cross was performing a traffic stop on a Fort Smith highway when he heard a passerby yell “f*ck you” out of the window of a moving car. The remark prompted Cross to end his traffic stop and pursue the car. After making the stop, Cross arrested Eric Roshaun Thurairajah on a charge of disorderly conduct, stating the profanity constituted “unreasonable or excessive noise.”

    Thurairajah spent hours in jail for the utterance, court records say, before the charge was dropped and he was released under his own recognizance.

    Thurairajah, however, was not done.

    After spending eight hours barefoot in a jail cell with a toilet that had overflowed, he filed suit against Cross, alleging that the trooper violated his First and Fourth Amendment rights by arresting him unjustly.

    Cross attempted to have the case thrown out, citing qualified immunity—a legal doctrine that shields government officials from lawsuits—but was denied by the US District Court for the Western District of Arkansas. In that 2017 ruling, the court ruled Cross’s arrest violated Thurairajah’s clearly established rights under the Constitution, voiding his qualified immunity protection.”

    Like

  • On Friday the Courts were closed early because lawyers had to have an AGM. Who cares about those delayed justice? Are lawyers so special they could not have met after hours or a weekend? I guess no one cares and things will only change when the unconscionable adults have all died out only to be replaced by a vocal Gen Y and Gen Z

    Like

  • GP…find something better to do and stop that dumb shit..already, christ, ya can’t even converse with a bajan without them telling ya how hard they read the bible.

    …..but they can’t fix none of the damn problems on the island that are killing them and their fellow bajans, their children and future generations…….they can’t even understand the major problems they have…

    that is what they were put to do from in Africa…become useless to themselves…lol

    Like

  • WARU
    YA CANT READ BU UNLESS THERE IS A LOT OF SHIT BOUT POLITICS
    DO YOU SEE ME COMPLAIN?
    YA CANT READ BU UNLESS YOU SEE AN UGLY BLACK WOMAN RANTING AND RAVING
    DO YOU SEE ME COMPLAIN?

    I DID NOT CAUSE ANY of the damn problems on the island
    AND I AM NOT EMPLOYED TO FIX THEM
    NOR WILL I WASTE ANY ATP CEREBRATING TO OFFER ANY SOLUTIONS
    I WANT TO RISE IN GLORY SO DAT IS WHY I ASKING REASONABLE QUESTIONS TO GET HELP

    Like

  • RE On Friday the Courts were closed early because lawyers had to have an AGM. Who cares about those delayed justice? Are lawyers so special they could not have met after hours or a weekend?
    YOU MEKKING SPORT OR WUH?
    IN BARBADOS LAWYERS REAL SPECIAL…YOU AINT KNOW.
    SOME ONE BU WANT LAWYERS GET NOMINATED TO be made a QC for national awards for their steadfast dedication in educating the public about law

    N BARBADOS LAWYERS REAL SPECIAL.. YA HEAR
    I GWINE STUDY LAW AND COME BACK TO BIM AND BE SPECIAL TOO

    WHO KNOWS THEY MAY MEK ME A NIGHT

    Like

  • Winston Anthony Jackman

    WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ?
    WHAT IS THIS EVENT PROPERLY CALLED?
    WHAT WILL CAUSE THIS EVENT TO OCCUR?

    WHO REALLY CARES?????
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    CAN ANYONE HELP ME WITH THESE ANSWERS?

    NOT REALLY, BUT I KNOW THAT WON’T STOP YOU FROM TELLING US AND FORCING YOUR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE DOWN OUR THROATS AND REMINDING US WHAT BIBLE ILLITERATES AND DUMMIES WE ARE.

    Like

  • Waru

    Yuh right as shiite.

    These religious ah should keep their dirty dogma to themselves instead of polluting the blog wid shiite, for years.

    Like

  • Winston Anthony Jackman

    RE NOT REALLY, BUT I KNOW THAT WON’T STOP YOU FROM TELLING US AND FORCING YOUR INTERPRETATIONS OF THE BIBLE DOWN OUR THROATS AND REMINDING US WHAT BIBLE ILLITERATES AND DUMMIES WE ARE.

    NOT TO DAY
    I THINK I TOLD WUNNAH ALREADY
    WATCHING THE WORLD CUP
    WAITING FOR MY SWEET SPOUSE TO RETURN FROM HER RIPERIAN VACATION IN MAINE WATCHING WHALES AND PHOTOGRAPHING LIGHTHOUSES
    ALSO I STUDYING MY LAW BOOKS SO THAT ONE DAY I CAN COME HOME TO BECOME A “NIGHT”

    Like

  • RE Winston Anthony Jackman July 14, 2019 11:52 AM

    WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ?
    WHAT IS THIS EVENT PROPERLY CALLED?
    WHAT WILL CAUSE THIS EVENT TO OCCUR?

    Q. WHO REALLY CARES?????

    A. EVERYBODY OUGHT TO CARE
    EVERYBODY OUGHT TO KNOW

    Like

  • “YA CANT READ BU UNLESS YOU SEE AN UGLY BLACK WOMAN RANTING AND RAVING
    DO YOU SEE ME COMPLAIN?”

    lol..at least help us get rid of the SCUM IN THE SLAVE PARLIAMENT…destroying your people’s lives…you do care about the vulnerable black bajans ya left behind don’t you..

    the brainwash bible bullshit is worn out and tired…ya people cannot even help themselves OR EVEN THINK CLEARLY because of the crap they keep FOOLING THEMSELVES WITH….coming from that blighted book….created just to keep them STUPID and UNAWARE…

    and yes, ya old liar, ya complain about ugly black women on BU all the time…..we done know ya prefer ugly, racist old white men, those are whom you feel inferior to…so ya got no problem being their foot stool.

    Like

  • Condolences Jeff

    Good that your late father got to bask in some of your reflected glory and hopefully you have inherited the genes of longevity so you can continue to smell the flowers before you fertilize them.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Nonsense comments in the opinion of the blogmaster will be deleted starting now.

    Like

  • BUT DAVID MOST OF THE COMMENTS ON THIS BLOG HAVE BEEN NONSENSE

    YOU HATE ME CAUSE I DONT LICK ASS?

    I AM TOO OLD TO BOW DOWN OR BEND DOWN

    Liked by 1 person

  • peterlawrencethompson

    You have my sincere condolences Jeff.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Censoring is the opposite of free speech. Toleration is the key. You may disagree, but let it go by. That is the mark of a competent chairman. Who determines what is ‘nonsense’? The soldier with the gun, the man on the keyboard, or Ninja man? Let he readers decide.

    Like

  • The blogmaster tolerates you does he not?

    Like

  • HAL AUSTIN SHOULD BE UP FOR NATIONAL HONORS FOR HIS CONTRIBUTION TO BU EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MUSCLE IN HIS BRAIN , AND EVEN THOUGH HE HAS QUESTIONED MY ANCESTRY.
    HE DESERVES TO BE TOLERATED

    Like

  • Sorry, mate. You are not in a position to ‘tolerate’ me. The day that happens I will jump off the bridge.

    Like

  • peterlawrencethompson

    It agree with you Jeff that section 14 of the local Computer Misuse Act 2005 constitutes ridiculous overreach. The fact that it crimalizes communication that is clearly free speech in a face-to-face context makes it ripe for a constitutional challenge. For example, if I accost a constable with the pythonesque insult “your mother was a hamster and your father smells of elderberries” it would not likely expose me to prosecution if delivered to his/her face, but online where they can look up the reference and deduce that it is tantamount to “I fart in your general direction” and thereby claim that I have caused them olfactory annoyance and furthermore that I am both indecent and obscene.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Let the blogmaster be very clear to a few of you who want mock the BU project.

    Some of us live by old fashion values that guide how the blog is moderated.

    The blogmaster comes from a school of thought that says it is decent to show sympathy to a person grieving a love one.

    You are entitled to disagree but as long as this blogmaster is behind the BU dashboard it is a custom we will cherish and protect.

    Liked by 1 person

  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Georgie Porgie July 14, 2019 12:38 PM
    “I AM TOO OLD TO BOW DOWN OR BEND DOWN”
    +++++++++++++++++
    You show most remarkable flexibility for one of your age sir, because you are perpetually licking your own ass. It is not therefore, hard to discern why you cannot perceive the topic of this discussion and respond appropriately.

    Like

  • PLT

    DESPITE WHAT YOU SAY I HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO THE FACT THAT FOLK IN BIM ON BU AND BT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RISING IN GLORY BUT DONT SEEM TO KNOW OR CARE WHAT IT REALLY MEANS

    YOUR NASTY AD HOMINEM IS UNWARRANTED

    FOLK ON THE ” BU PROJECT” OPINE ON WHAT THEY WISH BUT WHEN I OPINE ON WHAT INTERESTS ME WUNNA BARKING AND BRAYING

    I FIND IT VERY HARD to discern why you AND OTHERS cannot perceive the topic DAT I AM discussinG and respond appropriately.

    I HAVE NOT CUSSED A SOUL

    I REPEAT “I AM TOO OLD TO BOW DOWN OR BEND DOWN”

    I SHOULD KNOW MY PHYSIOLOGICAL AND PHYSICAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL STATE BETTER THAN ANYONE

    Liked by 1 person

  • You are on record that you visit BU to ‘mock the rumshop’. So mock elsewhere, your mocking comments are NOT invited here.

    Like

  • peterlawrencethompson

    Section 15 of the local Computer Misuse Act 2005 is even more ridiculous than section 14. It anticipates that the constabulary is endowed with precognition or some other psychic ability; it states in part that:
    “15. (1) Where a magistrate is satisfied, on information on oath given by a police officer, that there are reasonable grounds for
    suspecting that an offence under this Act […] is about to be committed in any place and that evidence that such an offence […] is about to be committed is in that place, the magistrate may issue a warrant authorising any police officer to enter and search that
    place, including any computer, using such reasonable force as is necessary.”

    So if a constable decides that I am of the opinion that the force is marginally competent at best, and an embarrassing travesty most of the time, not to mention harboring suspicion that they are occasionally profoundly corrupt (and it is well known I do hold all these opinions), then using their psychic ability they are justified in breaking into my house because they suspect that the offense under section 14 that this “constitutes a threat” because I intend to cause them “annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety.”

    Liked by 1 person

  • peterlawrencethompson

    @Georgie Porgie July 14, 2019 1:46 PM
    I certainly agree that you “HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPOND.” I was simply adjusting the aim of your own ad hominem about persons who may or may not “LICK ASS” to formulate a hypothesis that might explain why someone of your intellect refuses to properly address the topic that Jeff has raised.

    Liked by 1 person

  • PLT
    QUID DIXI SCRIPSIQUE, DIXI SCRIPSI QUE
    WHY MUST I ADDRESS the topic that Jeff has raised. I COMMENTED ON A MATTER ARISING MADE BY MARIPOSA
    AND I HAVE NO APOLOGY TO MAKE

    RE You are on record that you visit BU to ‘mock the rumshop’. So mock elsewhere, your mocking comments are NOT invited here.
    WUNNA SO LIKE TO MOCK PEOPLE BUT WUNNA CANT TEK A MOCKING?

    YOU HAD A MAN PUN BU MOCKING ME & ZOE FOR YEARS JUST FOR RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH AND YOU UPHELD HIM AND CALLED HIM A PROVOCATEUR

    Like

  • peterlawrencethompson

    So Jeff, let me take this from the realm of the hypothetical to the front page of today’s newspaper.
    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/240728/judge-raps-filing-foul
    If I were to publish the opinion that the Commissioner of Police and the organization that he leads has demonstrated stunning incompetence in being unable to meet the necessary procedural rules under the Mutual Assistance In Criminal Matters Act to produce Donville’s financial records to hand over to the United States Department of Justice. Further, what if I were to assert that such incompetence merits the Commissioner’s summary dismissal from his post without compensation. Would such an effort to deprive him of his employment and livelihood be sufficiently “menacing in character” to cause him “annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety” and open me to the risk of prosecution under section 14 of the local Computer Misuse Act 2005. What If I asserted an opinion that such a travesty in a high profile case of political corruption can only be the result of further corruption? Is that “menacing in character?”

    Like

  • PEOPLE MOCK ME ON BU DAILY

    THEY MOCK WHAT I SAY DAILY, SOME TIMES EVEN WHEN I HAVE SAID NOTHING FOR THE DAY SOMETIMES FOR THE WEEK

    MOCKING ME IS STUPID CAUSE I HAVE THE INTELLECT TO RESPOND WITH A SMILE

    I JUST LAUGH AND ENSURE THAT WHAT I SAY IS CORRECT

    ITS LIKE JOUSTING

    Like

  • Concerned Bajan

    Jeff,

    Firstly sorry for your loss.

    Just like Caswell has commented, I too, am troubled my the conviction of that young man, and or with the journalistic reporting by the media.

    When I read the article, I noticed several things. Firstly that the accused posted his wishes on HIS Facebook page.
    That is important because we cannot overlook the following words of the section of the Computer Misuse Act “to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends it or its contents to be communicated”.

    Did the accused send it to the RBPF or posted it on their site? Thereby making the members of the RBPF the recipients or persons he intended the contents to be communicated ?

    Also simply stating members of the RBPF is not enough in my opinion. The prosecution ought to have brought those specific members of the RBPF out so as to allow them to prove (and be examined) in terms of whether they truly were caused annoyance inconvenience distress and anxiety on then.
    The RBPF is a body of persons and cannot feel these things arbitrarily.
    Those actions are really only applicable to human beings and if an action is done in respect of a company or a body that is said to cause mental anquish etc then assuming there is a legal cause of action in the first place, the particular human officers or representatives first have to show and prove how the same caused them those mental maladies.

    I wonder whether the decision would have been the same if it went to trial as I do notice he pleaded guilty.

    I am not condoning his actions. I believe that the majority of the RBPF are right thinking individuals and need to be respected. I have no doubt that the accused words were disrespectful evnlen though he may have made them emotionally and in response to being able to see his brother in police custody.

    But not every antisocial or disrespectful thing is a crime punishable by law.
    And every criminal law should be clear and properly fairly and equally interpreted and applied.

    Based on what I read in the nation, justice was not properly served, or not everything was properly reported.

    Liked by 3 people

  • Winston Anthony Jackman

    RE: DESPITE WHAT YOU SAY I HAVE THE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO THE FACT THAT FOLK IN BIM ON BU AND BT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT RISING IN GLORY BUT DONT SEEM TO KNOW OR CARE WHAT IT REALLY MEANS

    SIR, WHY should YOU be BOTHERED and see the NEED to RESPOND if people TALK about “rising in glory” and DON’T KNOW or CARE WHAT it MEANS?

    You MUST RESPECT the FACT that PEOPLE have a PERSONAL CHOICE WHETHER or not to ACCEPT or REJECT CHRISTIANITY and the Bible.

    You are NOT REQUIRED to MAKE that choice FOR THEM and that CHOICE has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with YOU.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Jeff limits himself to electronic speech but there are more deeply and worrisome laws and known practices, especially in the United States and given the perceived extra-territoriality of their legislation, these are much more troublesome.

    Permit us to give a few examples.

    There are a wide range of telecommunications equipment firms, or manufacturers, which are embedding ‘eavesdropping’ devices, remotely activated – hidden microphones, hidden cameras – purportedly aimed for marketing proposes, which transmit everything being said/done within a household to central data bases. This goes beyond mere issues of free speech alone and into concepts of privacy.

    Our every action, is being recorded. The Big Brother state is here. So while you watch TV – the TV is watching you as well, whether turned on or not. All of the most modern devices have these capabilities.

    Google is maybe the worst violator of global concepts of free speech. For it controls as high as 90% of all searches. Such a virtual monopoly enables Google, Wikipedia and Alphabet – its parent company – to control search results favourable to them, people who pay them and the powers that be, the ideas found unfavourable are relegated deep within the search results – on page 100, for example.

    With respect, the issues raised by the goodly judge cited and Jeff, seem elementary to the bigger problems we now face. A problem we are doing nothing about.

    Like

  • The blogmaster comes from a school of thought that says it is decent to show sympathy to a person grieving a love one.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    If it is business as usual, Jeff should have stuck to business and left his father out of the column.

    Let someone else raise the subject.

    If he needed time to grieve then leave the blog/business out.

    Perfectly natural.

    There is always next week, or the week after.

    We are all left to offer condolences (or not) as is proper and I offer mine.

    Other sentiments of bereavement would naturally follow.

    Like

  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    not every antisocial or disrespectful thing is a crime punishable by law.*
    And every criminal law should be clear and properly fairly and equally interpreted and applied.

    CB, my sentiments exactly!

    And many thanks to all members of the BU family for your kind expressions of condolence. They are much appreciated at this time of bereavement.

    Liked by 1 person

  • John

    About an article on freedom of speech you seek to limit the writer’s freedom of speech.

    Poetic license gives any author a right to end such a piece in any way thought fitting.

    Liked by 1 person

  • RE SIR, WHY should YOU be BOTHERED and see the NEED to RESPOND if people TALK about “rising in glory” and DON’T KNOW or CARE WHAT it MEANS?

    BECAUSE I CHOSE SO TO DO. THATS CALLED FREE CHOICE AND IT IS NOT A CRIME TO DO SO

    RE You MUST RESPECT the FACT that PEOPLE have a PERSONAL CHOICE WHETHER or not to ACCEPT or REJECT CHRISTIANITY and the Bible.

    I HAVE NEVER ONCE ASKED ANYONE AT ANY TIME ON BU TO RESPECT OR ACCEPT CHRISTIANITY and the Bible.
    NEVER!

    RE You are NOT REQUIRED to MAKE that choice FOR THEM and that CHOICE has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with YOU.

    I WONDER SINCE YOU ARE ABLE TO WORK THAT OUT ON YOUR VERY OWN, WHY YOU THINK THAT I CAN NOT WORK THAT OUT TOO
    PLEASE KINDLY POINT OUT WHERE I HAVE EVER SOUGHT TO MAKE A CHOICE FOR ANYONE ON BU ABOUT ANYTHING

    WHY IS IT THAT YOU THINK YOU MUST COMMENT ON MY COMMENTS AND I CANT COMMENT ON MARIPOSA’S COMMENT OR MAKE COMMENTS OF MY OWN?

    DONT I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH ON BU NOW

    Like

  • Pachamama
    July 14, 2019 3:14 PM

    John
    About an article on freedom of speech you seek to limit the writer’s freedom of speech.
    Poetic license gives any author a right to end such a piece in any way thought fitting.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Of course he has freedom to say what he wants, but that wasn’t what David was talking about!!

    Like

  • Some of us live by old fashion values that guide how the blog is moderated.
    The blogmaster comes from a school of thought that says it is decent to show sympathy to a person grieving a love one.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++

    Here, let me be even more specific!!!

    David raised old fashioned values!!

    I responded!!

    Like

  • Incidentally, there were no blogs in the old time days!!

    People knew you were in mourning by seeing your attire or interacting with you on a personal level!!

    Like

  • Even on BU fights can break out over respect for the dead
    Never thought i would become close enough to hear members of the BU family in showing respect for the dead warring over the words ” rise in Glory”
    Thought such occurrences only unravel in grave yards
    i guess BU is on its way to glory .
    GP u ought to be ashamed of yourself with your ignorant interruptions

    Like

  • Dean with Respect and Condolences, Freedom Appreciated the Short but telling Tribute of your Father on his passing… “I dedicate this week’s column to the memory of my father who was called to higher service on Tuesday of last week at the age of 93. It was he who taught me to read and he was an avid fan of my weekly musings. Until he became too ill to do so, he patiently and lovingly collected every one of them. May his spirit travel home in safety and peace”. It is Clear that your Father taught many values besides how to read. The Scriptures say to honour your Father and Mother that your days would be long in the land. You have certainly brought much honour to your parents which your Dad perceived by collecting all your work. The Bonds between Parents and Children can last forever even into the eternities. Thank you for a Glimpse into your Soul Sir.

    Goin’ Home, with Alex Boyé

    Like

  • Again i reiterate the justice systems has lost it wheels and in so doing would be grabbing at straws as a quick fix to patch the large holds in the judicial system
    A bail of 4000thousand dollars for cussing at a policeman is very steep
    I believe that the judge in such cases have the authority to be lenient and could have issued a stern warning if this was the defendant first time before a judge

    Liked by 1 person

  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Dear Professor: Sorry to hear that you have been separated from your beloved father.

    @Georgie Porgie July 14, 2019 10:54 AM “WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?”
    God

    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ? It will occur when God decides as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.”

    Like

  • Winston Anthony Jackman

    BECAUSE I CHOSE SO TO DO. THATS CALLED FREE CHOICE AND IT IS NOT A CRIME TO DO SO

    Are you telling me you have a FREE CHOICE to MEDDLE in people’s BUSINESS as to WHETHER or NOT they CHOOSE not to KNOW or CARE what “rising in glory” means?

    THAT, in Bajan terms, is being GYPSY or MALICIOUS. You should CONCERN YOURSELF with YOUR OWN BUSINESS. After all, when those people who do not KNOW or CARE what “rising in glory” means die, YOU WOULD NOT be the ONE to be BURIED.

    Mariposa made a simple, general comment in offering her condolences to Mr. Cumberbatch.

    You jumped out to ask a few SILLY questions, HOPING someone would TAKE the BAIT and RESPOND, to GIVE you an opportunity to show off your self-perceived knowledge of scriptures and to call them Bible illiterates and dummies.

    Well, it DID NOT HAPPEN today.

    All the HC student, doctor, Bible and island scholar you are, YOU WERE UNABLE to WORK that OUT on YOUR VERY OWN.

    Like

  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Glad I went to church this morning and spent time visiting with family this afternoon, because the boys of BU were real testy today.

    Freedom of speech is good.

    Writing about killing people is bad, and scary.

    But nobody should be locked up for foolish talk, unless it happens that they are armed and in a position to carry out a foolish ACT. otherwise I think that a reprimand and a fine is enough.

    i don’t know anymore, because they would not let me into law school, nor theological school either.

    Liked by 2 people

  • Winston Anthony Jackman

    I offer my sincere condolences to Mr. Cumberbatch.

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife July 14, 2019 6:40 PM.

    Unfortunately, you FELL for the BAIT.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Mariposa, I offer my apologies to you because it was not my intention to war about your condolences to Mr. Cumberbatch, which I thought were genuine and appropriate at this time.

    You saying “rise in Glory,” could have been over-looked, instead of trying to make a big issue of it, just like a spoilt child. That was what annoyed me.

    Like

  • KNOW THIS THAT EVERY SOUL IS FREE TO CHOOSE HIS LIFE AND WHAT HE’LL BE; FOR THIS ETERNAL TRUTH IS GIVEN, THAT GOD WILL FORCE NO MAN TO HEAVEN. HE’LL CALL, PERSUADE, DIRECT ARIGHT, AND BLESS WITH WISDOM, LOVE AND LIGHT; IN NAMELESS WAYS BE GOOD AND KIND, BUT NEVER FORCE THE HUMAN MIND. – William C. Gregg

    Christianity is Not a Religion of Force but of Free Will…GP Simply Testifies of the Good News but they are those who would like to Force him to Restrain his Freedom to Speak!

    The TRUTH sounds like Hate to those who HATE the TRUTH…

    Liked by 1 person

  • • Mariposa
    RE GP u ought to be ashamed of yourself with your ignorant interruptions
    WHY? WHAT EVIL HAVE I DONE? WHAT LAW HAVE I BROKEN?

    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife
    July 14, 2019 6:40 PM
    @Georgie Porgie July 14, 2019 10:54 AM “WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?”
    God
    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ? It will occur when God decides as described in 1 Thessalonians 4:16 “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.”
    CORRECT BUT DON’T FORGET 1 CORINTHIANS 15:51 et secq

    Winston Anthony Jackman
    July 14, 2019 6:41 PM
    RE Mariposa made a simple, general comment in offering her condolences to Mr. Cumberbatch.
    You jumped out to ask a few SILLY questions,
    NOTHING SILLY ABOUT MY QUESTIONS AT ALL

    RE HOPING someone would TAKE the BAIT and RESPOND, to GIVE you an opportunity to show off your self-perceived knowledge of scriptures

    I DON’T HAVE A self-perceived knowledge of scriptures ANY BODY CAN SEE THAT I KNOW THE WORD WELL

    RE and to call them Bible illiterates and dummies.
    WHAT AM I TO CALL Bible illiterates and dummies BUT Bible illiterates and dummies

    RE Well, it DID NOT HAPPEN today.
    SIMPLE SIMON JUST ANSWERED TWO OF THE QUESTIONS YOU CALLED SILLY AND THAT OFFENDED YOU SO MUCH

    RE All the HC student, doctor, Bible and island scholar you are, YOU WERE UNABLE to WORK that OUT on YOUR VERY OWN.

    I WORK OUT WHAT I WANT TO WORK OUT
    WUNNAH LIKE TO CUSS ME AND I ENJOY RESPONDING LOL
    I HAVE COMMITTED NO LAW NOR HAVE I BROKEN ANY LAW OF THE REALM

    BY THE WAY “RISING IN GLORY” IS KNOWN AS THE RAPTURE! A TOPIC THAT BU STELLAR SCHOLARS LOVE TO MOCK ME ABOUT.

    RE Winston Anthony Jackman
    July 14, 2019 7:04 PM

    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife July 14, 2019 6:40 PM.
    Unfortunately, you FELL for the BAIT.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    NO SHE HAS FREEDOM SPEECH AND SHE ANSWERED SOME OF THE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY

    RE You saying “rise in Glory,” could have been over-looked, instead of trying to make a big issue of it, just like a spoilt child. That was what annoyed me.

    IT WAS YOU THAT GOT ANNOYED AND MADE THE FUSSjust like a spoilt child.

    MY “SILLY QUESTIONS” could have been over-looked, BY YOU SINCE YOU CLAIM TO KNOW MY MOTIVES instead of trying to make a big issue of it, just like a spoilt child. WHY IS IT THAT YOU CANT WORK OUT THAT

    Like

  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Probably spent too much time in church and in Sunday School and going to Church Army meetings with mummy.

    Like

  • SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Georgie Porgie July 14, 2019 10:54 AM

    WHAT DOES RISING IN GLORY MEAN?
    We Anglicans believe in the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. The God who gave us these earthy bodies in the first place is quite capable of providing new bodies, a new heaven a new earth.
    WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    Those whom God decides.
    WHO DECIDES THOSE WHO WILL RISE IN GLORY?
    God
    WHEN WILL THIS EVENT OCCUR ?
    When God decides
    WHAT IS THIS EVENT PROPERLY CALLED?
    The Rapture.
    WHAT WILL CAUSE THIS EVENT TO OCCUR?
    Maybe God will have become fed-up with his wufless children again, and he will call some home, and some who have not repented, who do not believe will be judged and will go to the other place.

    The reading this morning was the Parable of the Good Samaritan

    On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?” “What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?” He answered, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’[a]; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ “You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.” But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my neighbor?” In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him and went away, leaving him half dead. A priest happened to be going down the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side. But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him. He went to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on oil and wine. Then he put the man on his own donkey, brought him to an inn and took care of him. The next day he took out two denarii[c] and gave them to the innkeeper. ‘Look after him,’ he said, ‘and when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.’ “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?” The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.” Jesus told him, “Go and do likewise.”

    Nothing much to add for the boys of BU except it cannot hurt to be kind and neighbourly to others. Maybe one day it will be your house which is on fire and the neighbours will wet it down.

    Liked by 1 person

  • WHAT WILL CAUSE THIS EVENT TO OCCUR?

    THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH OR THE PAROUSIA

    ALSO CALLED THE FIRST PHASE OF THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST
    IN THIS COMING JESUS WILL MEET THE CHURCH IN THAT AIR AS DESCRIBED IN 1 THESE 4 & 1 CORINTHIANS 15

    JESUS WILL NOT DESCEND TO THE MOUNT OF OLIVES IN THIS COMING AS TAUGHT IN ZECHARIAH
    THIS IS THE SECOND PHASE OF HIS COMING AT WHICH HE WINS THE BATTLE AT ARMAGEDDON ETC-

    Like

  • A most pertinent question on the issue of justice rendered to the defendant would rather or not he has mental issues
    In todays society they are many who suffers from mild to severe forms of mental issue
    A subject which contains to remain hidden among barbadian families and in some instances when those afflicted acts out negatively are hauled before a judge and is sentenced to jail
    Sentencing a person to jail does not necessarily solve societies problems when the subject/ defendant needs alternative medical treatment
    Which makes me wonder if the judge in this case gave thought to the issue of mental illness

    Liked by 1 person

  • Piece the Legend

    @ the LUMINARY Jeff Cumberbatch

    That essence that for 93 years drove the mortal shell of he who who identified as your father has moved on.

    With such accustomed movement which attends the sentience of all humans I join with others here to Express my condolences for your sorrow, as per my western beliefs AND MY JOY as to his release as per residual traits yeah even acknowledgements of some of my eastern brothers.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Jeff, I joined in condolences to you and your family.

    I must say @Barbados Underground Whistleblower has been doing a wonderful effort in trying to remove the cloak of darkness despite the naysayers and the ones who want to maintain the status quo in keeping Bajans ignorant.

    Like

  • Piece the Legend

    @ the Honourable Blogmaster your assistance please with an item here for Dr. GP thank you

    Like

  • Piece the Legend

    @ the LUMINARY Jeff Cumberbatch.

    This article sedms to be about about the specific inappropriate? Response, AND ABUSE OF POWER OF THE ROYAL BAYGON POLICE FORCE brought to bear on this social media matter and the ensuing actions of a Judge

    I, being first among those who similarly offend needs to provide another “perspective”

    As an advocate and activist, some say WITHOUT PAR, heheheheh, let me explain the process that breeds us.

    We lawbiding citizens are abused by these so called legal systems and IN A MOMENT OF AWAKENING understand that “we either create our new systems OR ELSE WE GET FOOPED BY ANOTHER MAN’S ”

    The sanctioned response of this Judge is indicative of a successive trait among both administrations TO LOCK UP PEOPLE FOR DEM MOUTH.

    This is a trend that de old MSN prophesies, WILL GET WORSE IN THE COMING MONTHS of this Mugsbe administration.

    The act in part says

    “…sending an electronic communication that was “menacing in character, intending to cause or reckless as to whether it caused annoyance, inconvenience, distress or anxiety to the recipient or to any other person to whom he intends it or its contents to be communicated…”.

    Barring overt revolution and guns and bullets WE HAVE LITTLE LATITUDE IN THIS SYSTEM.

    It crushes the voices of the mek, therefore electronic communication, which is more ubiquitous than Eric Sealy’s megaphone, becomes the media that one has go use TO MADE YOUR VOICE HEARD.

    Of course dimwits like Dale and Eddie and Mugabe see it as sedition and anarchy BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE US point them out as fuckups and bunglers

    But whereas the old world did not have these tools, the world at today, amplifies our voices beyond the limits of a loudspeaker.

    I can text one item ant its is viral in seconds.

    And, luminary if you or none of your colleagues gi to challenge this travesty in a court of law, as all good citizens must, THEN MUGABE AND HER ADMINISTRATION WILL HAVE WON the first of her battles to silence dissent.

    Much like how Micharl Lashley was able to do thd same shy$e with his matter about 2 years ago.

    Liked by 1 person

  • Piece the Legend

    I posted this earlier but ….

    @ my fellow myope Dr GP,

    You asked the simplest of questions of the people and sheeple reading that cliche statement of condolence

    What does “rise in glory mean” ?

    Like you, I oft have found that many who offer the well worn statement DO NOT KNOW ITS MEANING and intone it because “it sounds profound like if they have some greater affinity with God or Jesus.

    And, for you to even challenge their pretend spirituality WELL YOU HAVE COMMITTED THE CARDINAL SIN worse than blasphemy.

    This is the thing about pretence and GOD, it leads quickly to self examination AND SINCE NO MAN CAN “ROB” God, they automatically attack the person who causes them to look at themselves in that revealing way.

    And as a result you will be subjected to this constant barrage of commentary about your simple question.

    Over one year ago you introduced me to ghat site hymnal.net and whenever fellow parishioners are unsure of a tune I send them there while telling them that “a brother in Christ” gave me that valuable info.

    It’s about authorship and being able to give credit to our sources AND IN THE ABSENCE OF KNOWING what a topic is, referring to those more knowledgeable than self for the answer.

    You are going to be hated for questioning them about that “tag” to what was in the past just “may he/she rest in peace” now appended with the colourful “rise in Glory” bolt on.

    I know it is hard interacting with these oft times lesser mortals but ask Him who is Within to direct you while you interact with these few people AND MANY SHEEPLE

    Like

  • Piece the Legend

    Again your assistance please Honourable Blogmaster

    Like

  • Piece the Legend

    Here is a matter that should be of greater significance to the same Royal Baygon Police Force

    Since dem so sanctimonious about criminal acts

    Would you care to comment on if Pornville Inniss committed a crime in Barbados?

    Liked by 1 person

  • William Skinner

    @ Pacha
    You raised very profound observations in relation to the attempts by various state and private apparatus to control and define freedom of speech.
    We talk a lot today about fake news but a deeper analysis would reveal, that we were fed a diet of fake news or was it information or fake history in our classrooms.
    Our freedom of expression was also brutally suppressed because we could not even promote our own culture without being accused as racists.
    Fake news, and attempts to deny the freedom of expression, were the weapons used from day one. The internet has now become the vehicle to ensure that those who control the information continue to rule.
    Like you said we need broader philosophical discourse and to connect the historical dots when looking at certain subjects.
    The only way for vulnerable societies such as ours to limit and prevent what was done to former generations is in the classroom. Freedom of expression must never be suppressed in order to protect the agents of corrupt state agencies.

    Like

  • @William

    Agents of corrupt state agencies wield the power and influence to perpetrate what you are against therefore it is left to non agents of state agencies to do what?

    Who are the non agents?

    Liked by 1 person

  • William Skinner

    @ David
    You are attempting to promote your thesis of citizen involvement. You full well know who are the “ non agents .
    For the record I have never questioned the importance of citizens in the process maintaining democracy.
    You and I part company when you defend the duopoly’s failed policies by blaming the citizens for not being more involved rather than castigate those who make the decisions for misleading the masses and engaging in non transparent activity.
    A case in point : citizens were bombarded by the fact that they were getting back long overdue tax returns. They were not bombarded with the news of the decision to stop them from claiming the child allowance on their returns.So many were caught off guard last week when they learned they could no longer claim the child allowance credit. Hence in real terms they are now paying in some cases more taxes since many depended on those allowances to ease they tax burden and to “ get back “ something.

    Liked by 1 person

  • “You and I part company when you defend the duopoly’s failed policies by blaming the citizens for not being more involved rather than castigate those who make the decisions for misleading the masses and engaging in non transparent activity.”

    This post has merit, given the RESULTS of the research some have done RECENTLY….we do need to stop blaming the victims on the island and THE BLACK POPULATION ARE THE VICTIMS….most NEVER even KNEW that they ARE supposed to have a voice, NEVER KNEW THEY WERE VICTIMS…….and even if they did…after DECADES of intimidation, bullying, marginalization AND disenfrsnchisement….by evil leaders….THEY WOULD BE TOO AFRAID….even if they knew how to use that voice….WHICH MOST OF THEM DON’T….

    And all of these crimes against the black citizens…are BY DESIGN…engineered by EVIL BLACK LEADERS….and their bribe masters..

    I always knew William knew more than he was letting on…he also knows it is time to clean up the island….and the evil leaders AND their bribemasters….GOTTA GO.

    Like

  • @William

    This is not the point. In theory a civil society is made up of groups that must work in concert to deliver a quality community; the state, people. media etc. What we are observing not only in Barbados is a ceding of those responsibilities to other groups therefore leading dysfunction. It will never be perfect, we must do better.

    Liked by 1 person

  • ””””””””’You and I part company when you defend the duopoly’s failed policies by blaming the citizens for not being more involved rather than castigate those who make the decisions for misleading the masses and engaging in non transparent activity.””””””””

    Sir William Skinner is at it again!

    Skinner we never knew that you had the capacity to continue with this ‘axe to grind’ so long.

    Is it not time to move on?

    So instead of addressing issues which are worthy of your intellect you opt to spend your time here with minutiae

    David is right to blame the citizenry for the failings of the leadership we elect.

    Your over exhaled estimation about the role of a class of ‘leaders’ has always been misguided.

    David has millennia of histories of failed leadership to prove his point. And because your class of leadership has so failed it must be the people to whom the duty falls to be ultimately responsible for governance. This is why revolutions, which you have previously supported, have legitimacy.

    Skinner, stop with the fecking bits and pieces shiiiite! And return to some heavy lifting.

    Like

  • There is nothing wrong with having a philosophical bent but it must be infused with a sensible dose of pragmatism.

    Liked by 1 person

  • PIECE
    YOUR ERUDITE PIECE IS NOTED

    I DONT WORRY WITH THE DUMMIES BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN AND I QUOTE THE LORD JESUS HIMSELF WHO SAID IN Matthew 5:11-13

    11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

    12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

    13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

    IT SEEMS THAT JOIN IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW EXPRESSING YOUR VIEW MAY MAKE A DIFFERENCE.MEANS DO AND SAY WHAT PLEASES THE UNGODLY OR BE INSULTED

    Like

  • “David is right to blame the citizenry for the failings of the leadership we elect.”

    That too has merit…but given the last 70 plus years and not MANY CHOICES….the duopoly has been….THE ONLY FILTHY GAME IN TOWN….and they have worked EXCEEDLY HARD…to keep the vile destructive to black minds….status quo alive and well…had they used that same negative energy….the NIS pension fund and taxpayer’s dollars to UPLIFT their own people….and turned their negative enetgy into positive….none of us would be hrre.

    It is only NOW and many years of BU, FB and others…that the EYES OF THE PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO OPEN…

    5 years ago ya could not get a black bajan to voice anything on FB….most on BU wanted to talk in CODES AND PARABLES….out of FEAR and FRIGHT…..and tried to get me to do it too…fat chance of that ever happening…. i dont have the patience for that dumb, backward shit..

    ……..it is only now….people are getting the courage to confront the DEMONS in their lives who REPEATEDLY SELL THEM OUT……and keep them in poverty…in public and on social media…cause the younger generation dont have the patience for that level of evil backwardness coming from wicked black leaders either..

    We have come a long way….though still a work in progress

    Like

  • This is a blog

    Some would like to think that they have a free speech right to preach to people and talk shiiite all day long from a book of biblical lies.

    What about our rights not to have to see such shiiite!

    We are sure these fecking Christians, or pretend Christians, would have objections if the books of other religions were ad nauseum quoted here, for colour

    This writer does not recognize, as a right, anybody’s attempts to subject us to their shiiiite religious beliefs.

    Such a ban will be forthrightly supported by us.

    Not only Christian stinking dogma but the dogmas of all other religions as well.

    There should be a harsh separation between Church and Blog!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    As it is so established in the constitutions of most Western countries.

    Like

  • GP knows if he harangued people in his work place with that crappy religious terrorism in the US……he would have been fired….. he ismaking up for lost ground….you are warned about that in workplaces….. but i met Caribbean brainwashed people in the US who still insist on terrorizing people from that bible of lies…one even had to be threatened with a hard slap to shut up…..these are the most slave minded of the Caribbean people….the poison they spew is dangerous..

    Like

  • There is nothing wrong with having a philosophical bent but it must be infused with a sensible dose of pragmatism.(Quote)

    Has this man ever studied philosophy?

    Liked by 1 person

  • Would you care to comment on if Pornville Inniss committed a crime in Barbados?

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Against whom?

    The State perhaps?

    .. a private citizen?

    The State should be investigating to see if a crime was committed against it, kind of like Mueller investigating to see if there was no collusion or obstruction.

    Was a law broken?

    Do we need any changes in laws to appoint an equivalent “Special Prosecutor”?

    ,,,, or ,,, Are the Police our “Special Prosecutors”?

    Like

  • WARU

    re GP knows if he harangued people in his work place with that crappy religious terrorism in the US……

    I HAVE NEVER WORKED IN THE “WORK PLACE ” in the US THANK GOD

    YOU SPEAK OF
    crappy religious terrorism

    Caribbean brainwashed people in the US who still insist on terrorizing people from that bible of lies…

    these are the most slave minded of the Caribbean people….

    the poison they spew is dangerous..

    BUT DAILY YOU TERRORIZE US WITH VIDEOS OF AN ANGRYT BLACK WOMEN BARKING AND BAYING LIKE A DOG

    HAVE I EVER COMPLAINED?

    DAILY YOU TERRORIZE US WITH VITRIOLOC VENOMOUS VIBES OF A VILE VIXEN

    HAVE I EVER COMPLAINED?
    I AM TOLARANT ENOUGH TO SCROOL PAST AND LET YOU HAVE YOUR SAY

    Peace, perfect peace, in this dark world of sin?
    The blood of Jesus whispers peace within.

    Peace, perfect peace, by thronging duties pressed?
    To do the will of Jesus—this is rest.

    Peace, perfect peace, with sorrows surging round?
    On Jesus’ bosom naught but calm is found.

    Peace, perfect peace, with loved ones far away?
    In Jesus’ keeping we are safe, and they.

    Peace, perfect peace, our future all unknown?
    Jesus we know, and He is on the throne.

    Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

    Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen. hEBREWS 13:20:

    Like

  • Pachamama July 15, 2019 7:16 AM

    RE This is a blog SO WHAT? WHAT IS A BLOG BUT A MEANS OF COMMUNICATION?

    RE Some would like to think that they have a free speech right to preach to people and talk shiiite all day long from a book of biblical lies.What about our rights not to have to see such shiiite!
    YOU ARE BLASPHEMING SIR
    AND YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN ME PREACH ON BU
    NOR DO I ATTAIN TO THE LEVEL OF SHITE YOU SPEW EVEN WHEN I AM JOKING
    NOR IS THE BIBLE A BOOK OF LIES- FULFILLED PROPHESY ATTESTS TO THAT

    RE We are sure these fecking Christians, or pretend Christians, would have objections if the books of other religions were ad nauseum quoted here, for colour. This writer does not recognize, as a right, anybody’s attempts to subject us to their shiiiite religious beliefs.Not only Christian stinking dogma but the dogmas of all other religions as well.

    FOR YEARS YOU AND MILLER HAVE SPOUTED AD NAUSEAM FROM YOUR ALTERNATIVE MYTHS AND FABLES AND DOGMA……..UH LIE? NO ONE HAS MUTTERED EVEN A MUMBLING WORD
    Such a ban will be forthrightly supported by us.

    RE There should be a harsh separation between Church and Blog!!!!!!!!!!!!! As it is so established in the constitutions of most Western countries.

    THERE YOU GO AGAIN LYING THROUGH YOUR TEETH
    OF WHICH constitutions of most Western countries DO YOU SPEAK.

    Like

  • GP…if it was your office…or some hospital or anywhere in US…you could not terrorize patients or anyone with ya useless bible bullshit….ah guess ya will tell me that you were in neither…

    i can CLAIM success for what i do, there is a VALID reason for me being on the blog…

    where is your success…

    and where is your valid reason for spewing slave minded shite…

    ya complain ad nauseaum about the evil nonsense practiced in Barbados, but neither bible verses,n or repeating shite ya know nothing about…has ever made any changes to the human rights abuses on the island or the crimes commmitted against black bajans by black skin cucharachas, but at least the blog….EXPOSES IT and has been doing so for 12 years…

    what has your bible verses done to help YOUR PEOPLE..escape the CRIMES being committed against them by bible spewing frauds and hypocrites like yaself..

    Liked by 1 person

Join in the discussion, you never know how expressing your view may make a difference.

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in:

WordPress.com Logo

You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s