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With the tranquil landscape of Barbados being routinely disturbed by a culture of gun violence an unprecedented murder rate.  Civil society is being encouraged to frankly discuss short term and long term measures to implement to arrest the trending. BU commenter Greene posted the following measures (with minor edits by the blogmaster) to kickoff Barbados Underground Internet Town Hall on Crime & Violence – How to Arrest it NOW.

– David, Barbados Underground

Short term measures

  1. Come right out and tell Bajans that the young men in some areas are murderers and are terrorising BIM by killing one another and if they continue so the Govt will have to invite people in BIM to take their place in BIM.
  2. Tell them that the illegal drug trade and reprisals are responsible for murders. that the guns are coming through the Port and that any government officials including but not limited to politicians, police and customs involved and caught will be punished severely. Change the official corruption laws to suit.
  3. Tell mothers and women by accepting drug money and turning a blind eye to the activities of their sons and boyfriends that they part of the problem.
  4. Enforce or implement Money Laundering and asset forfeiture Laws
  5. Second half the Defence Force to the police as patrol units in hot spot with a view to engage and challenge suspected drug and gun men/dealers based on intelligence in the first place and observation when they are in the area.
  6. Actually engage and if fired upon shoot to kill taking into consideration threats to their own lives and dangers posed to others in the area.
  7. Speedy Trials
  8. Look to pop some necks even if it means changing the laws.
  9. Discuss openly about what is causing the problems and solicit solutions.
  10. Seek a truce between warring factions with a forum where where they can confront each other in a neutral setting (do not know if this is possible).
  11. Look at witnesses protection with a view to sending those who qualify to other participatory islands/ countries.
  12. Provide and lease farm land to young men and women who say they have nothing to do.
  13. Teach civics from primary school with an established set of ideals that we expect from Bajans.

And I would say all this to the public.

Long term

  1. Look to change the school system to make it more hands on for boys with more technical subjects.
  2. Revert to single sex schools
  3. Provide counselling or more counselling for troubled youths and parents with early intervention programmes.
  4. Improve the lot of the police by paying them more and making the service more attractive. If the Government says they have no money they can exempt police, fire and prisons (emergency services) from income taxes and provide free health care at any private facility.
  5. Disband the Defence Force and recruit those who want to and are qualified into the police, fire service and prisons.
  6. Change corruption and other associated laws.
  7. Make marijuana legal for anyone over 18.
  8. Decriminalize other hard drugs treating them as a health issue and not a legal issue.
  9. Alter all the above from time to time to suit the changing circumstances.
  10. Look to improve the long term economic and employment situation.

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203 responses to “Internet Town Hall on Crime & Violence – All Are Invited”

  1. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    @ John A,

    Stated “To confirm this think how in the 70s the mere sight of a police van sent people scampering. Now we are at a stage where people don’t care and are even opening fire on a police vehicle if it enters their area.”

    This reminded me of a story that I read in yesterday’s Barbados Today regarding two ignorant black Bajan females who deemed it necessary to cuss out two police officers whilst using the f-word. I guess these two hardback black females felt liberated in their utterances.

    Trust me there is nothing cool in shooting or cussing after the police. Anybody who does that is plain dumb.Why Oh why can we Bajans not learn from our Haitian brothers and sisters.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/strike-haiti-president-paralyses-capital-port-au-prince-190610194346770.html

  2. robert lucas Avatar
    robert lucas

    @ John A June 15, 2019 5:12 PM

    Late 70’s-early 80’s.

  3. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ de pedantic Dribbled

    Sorry I forgot to respond to a question you asked so will now do so with this example.

    If you give me a book titled ” how to lose weight by dieting” and I tell you let’s discuss it and you respond by telling me I will lend you another book entitled ” how to lose weight by eating less” should I not assume your sole means of losing weight revolves around my diet? Suppose I want to discuss “exercise and weight loss” should I not also explore that?

    That’s why I say if you are going to inject the same approach into a discussion using another author I see little benefit to me. It is if course only my opinion which I am entitled to not only adopt but stand by.

    Just food for thought…

  4. John A Avatar
    John A

    @robert

    Wow this cancer has been festering for a while unchecked. Didn’t think we were going back 40 years but it explains alot as those guys would be in their 50s today.

  5. John A Avatar
    John A

    @TLSN

    Yes and the frightening part is those 2 women may well have children watching on!

  6. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ John
    What we fail to realize is that the current educational system worked quite well in the 60s. In other words, 90 % of the students leaving primary school, would have been competent enough to be: store clerks, postmen, messengers etc. In other words they had mastered what was at that time necessary: Reading Writing Arithmetic. That is where the boast of a 97% literacy rate came from.
    With the growth of private secondary, new comprehensive schools, and of course free education, the establishment of UWI etc , it was soon discovered that students were beginning to leave primary school but the basic skills were declining because of the emergence of the new society. Moving away from agriculture; new industrial factories and the rise of tourism.
    The visionless duopoly began to cash in on the kickbacks etc that come with development. In the meantime with television and other new distractions, no attention was paid to producing/ educating a new or different citizen.Very rapidly the political and professional classes found themselves with solid middle class status.
    Law enforcement shifted because the police stations and the police were no longer from the communities; teachers and civil servants were no longer living in the villages; nurses etc .
    The political class benefitted tremendously and in the twinkling of an eye St Phillip and St George became almost urban rather than rural communities.
    At no time did our political class had the vision to create and maintain what was really needed. Independence was not instilled outside of a flag national anthem . No sense of loyalty was placed as the centerpiece of national policy.
    It’s amazing that Barrow then asked: what mirror image do you have of yourselves. Ironically it was the mirror image he perhaps created.
    So that is why when Sandiford asked: How did we get back here , I responded we never left.
    Now these days when Mottley pretends that she was not a part of the problem I laugh. When Atherley says he did not know the bus stand was so filthy and steeped in confusion I had to roll on the floor.
    This current state was meticulously planned by the BLPDLP. They and their lackeys enjoyed every moment.
    Now we are getting crocodile tears. But everybody was not asleep. Many of us know what they did. We were watching, victimized, passed up for promotions, told to get a party ticket or starve.
    More to come.

    Duopoly Rules.

  7. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    🤔… I ponder @John A re your 6:18….

    In your analogy i suggest to you that the Blogmaster followed the initial figurative offer to read the book …”how to lose weight by dieting” by suggesting ANOTHER book generally…not another book specifically on eating habits!

    As I read the exchange it was YOU who assumed it was another book on eating habits! To be precise the exchange went like this:

    DAVID said: Will post a blog to EXPAND (my emphasis) on the point John A is struggling to understand in a couple of hours.; YOU said: David posting something in a few hours which will undoubtedly be written by someone who supports your argument does nothing to expand the discussion, it simply helps to add support to your view…

    Correct me if I’m wrong bro but he NEVER offered another ‘book of dieting’…just ANOTHER book! Why did you presume he only had dieting books.

    I’ll close this with this allegorical tale to make the point of how our own biases can cause us to do the same injustice of which we accuse others.

    There was this Black guy trying to sell some high priced products to another Black guy. The seller suggested that the buyer could opt for the non-name brand items and save some money…but whoooa, the buyer stopped him cold telling him he is a phD administrator who has a platinum American Express a/c and with over $50K cash on hand sooooo basically how dare the seller insinuate that he can’t afford the more expensive fancy brand items.

    The teaching moment is that the seller was simply trying to offer best value for the buyer as according to the write up he gave the same option to his white buyers as well ….but automatically the high profile Black dude ASSUMED he was being stereotyped as another cheap Black dude rather than a man of means…yet in turn he so badly stereotyped the seller and did not grasp that it was a genuine proposition.

    Did you fall into that trap also !

    I thought the offer was about expanding the subject matter on ‘losing weight’ not to read another book on food … just saying!

  8. John A Avatar
    John A

    We each have our view so let’s agree to disagree.

  9. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ William Skinner

    I think that is one of the clearest descriptions of our ” progress ” I have read.

    In the meantime gifted persons who may not of been able to fit into the Maths and English class have been lost through the cracks. That is why I will argue to the end that if other systems were in place to focus on their strengths, maybe hundreds if not thousands could have benefited over the years.

    Today maybe we would of had a host of entrepreneurs as opposed to persons who were taught to get a job and put you money on the bank.

  10. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ John A
    Thanks for your compliment. Hal can tell you that voices were out there warning the people that we needed a new model. These voices were effectively silenced by the 1974 Public Order Act .

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @William, all well broadly stated at 6:48 but let’s parse through a bit.

    “What we fail to realize is that the current educational system worked quite well in the 60s. …90 % of the students leaving primary school, would have been competent enough to be: store clerks, postmen, messengers etc. In other words they had mastered what was at that time necessary: Reading Writing Arithmetic. That is where the boast of a 97% literacy rate came from.”

    I question that based on the clear knowledge (indirect of course) that during that period many children with learning disabilities, physical challenges or other forms of noticeable difference to their peers were kept hidden from the system and because (to your point) they could get a lil pick in agriculture or .some other manual labour related it was not an explosive issue.

    Thus, the student population you cite above was NOT all who were eligible to be counted.

    In short, as society developed (the free edu and more as you stated) and many ‘basic new’ opportunities were being provided (and mandated for minors) a truer reflection of the possible student population were now in schools and with that came the problems…

    At that juncture I completely agree with you that better processes were needed to address those with the learning or home problems. So a deeper dive in analysing the data is required than your short gloss over!

    I’ll also say this: Although it’s easy to blame successive govt’s re not advancing education in sciences (in particular) we can’t simply forget that chip maker Intel had a plant here and were able to find competent Bajans to employ (some of whom they took with them when they lost their tax holiday and relocated back home and to Central America]).

    Yes, things should be drastically better but it’s overly harsh to say that no vision “was paid to producing/ educating a new or different citizen”.

    There was much indeed, but as you stated the greedy desire for kickbacks etc blunted the long term growth first envisioned!

  12. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ William Skinner

    I was a young teenager at the time what exactly did that act do? Was it a case of using the act for censorship?

  13. Freedom Crier Avatar
    Freedom Crier

    Robert lucas June 15, 2019 5:59 AM

    RE… “Barbados could benefit from land reform. Barbados appears to be the only West Indian country where a minority holds most of the land.”

    Dr. Lucas are you aware that the largest Land Owner in Barbados is the Government.

    Why would you give away Land if people would not work it? When Government has leased Good Arable Land for Agricultural purposes some try and then they stop, while some continue. If you wanted to talk about Agriculture then talk about Agriculture, if you want to talk about Envy then talk about Envy but don’t Disguise Theft as land Reform.

    https://i1.wp.com/www.sugartech.co.za/stnicholasabbey/stnick.jpg

  14. Ping Pong Avatar
    Ping Pong

    The Government believes that the rising rate of violent crime can be reversed by abolishing the common entrance exam and establishing middle schools. Will someone please explain how this works?

  15. John A Avatar
    John A

    @De pedantic dribbler

    My last comment on my statement to David regarding the education issue included the word “undoubtedly “.

    In other words probably would, could possibly include, may be an extension of the same topic.

    Hence the word undoubtedly in the contex used means that in the event of such being the case then I would find the additional information of no use in furthering my discussion.

    No need to reply ad this is my final word on this topic as to pursue it further adds little to the blog. If you want to however focus on the body of my comments where I speak about the need for fail safes to be put in place throughout all systems I would welcome hearing your views on that.

  16. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ de pedantic dribbler

    I do agree that a more in-depth look would reveal other factors.

    @ John A

    The Act essentially was designed to silence the radicals on the island and appease white Barbadians, who were mortally afraid of the Black Power Movement.
    I was fortunate enough as a very young man to be exposed to their brilliant minds. Hal would also be aware of those times and personalities. I think with a bit of research you would probably come upon it or at least a more comprehensive comment/explanation.

  17. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @David at 12:36

    Why are you being so mealy mouthed to talk about “inappropriate relationships”?

    Most children in school in Barbados are younger than 16 years old.

    If a teacher is having sex with a child why don’t you call it EXACTLY what it is? It is RAPE. A lotto the men on here talking about locking up people, and hanging people.

    When are we going to start locking up and hanging the mostly MALE [but yes some female too] people who have sex with CHILDREN?

    An inappropriate relationship is when I a full grown adult sexes with the boss or with my neighbor’s spouse.

    Teachers who have sex with school children are RAPISTS.

  18. John A Avatar
    John A

    @ William Skinner

    Yes I will look it up and take a read. I guess in life people will always be challenged by those who think differently.

  19. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @WURA at 1:48 p.m.

    Exactly what do you mean by younger?

    Lol

  20. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    The Alma Parris school was closed in the first half of 2018, and the 135 children who were being educated there were scattered to the wind.

    We have managed to get Ross University up and running.

    When will the Alma Paris school, a small school designed for children who have learning challenges be reopened.

    The school was functioning well. Why was it closed? Why was there no discussion with the students, their parents, their teachers including the principal, why was there no discussion with the taxpayers whose money was paying everybody, including the Minister of Education, the Chief Education Officer etc. before the school was closed.

    Why has this current government been so slow to reopen or replace the school?

    Why do we treat children who learn slowly or who learn differently as though they do not matter?

  21. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Happy Father’s Day to all of the “boys of BU”

    I trust that you have nurtured your sons and that they in turn are now nurturing their sons.

    If fathers do their jobs, then there is so much less for the politicians, the police, the judges, and the prison officials to do.

    And virtually nothing for the BDF to do.

    Raising good men and women is likely the hardest and most thankless job in the world.

    If you do not do it. Nobody else will do it for you.

  22. Donks Gripe and Josh Avatar
    Donks Gripe and Josh

    Mottley’s award winning apologist David BU yard fowl extraordinaire posits gun crime was trending upward for sometime we don’t disagree.

    However the steep climb this year with murder numbers beyond our imagination rips up the form book.

    Seemingly insurmountable gun violence is destroying the fabric of the country at alarming speed. In the past nearly 200 years the nation hasn’t seen a gruesome dilemma of this magnitude .

    The PM warned ministers including herself would be held responsible whatever takes place under their watch. Is that rule still in force because no minister herself included has been held accountable for the gun carnage.

    The country is awash with illegal firearms. Gangs and enforcers according to COP carry out executions at will. Law and order doesn’t exist for the armed thugs ordinary people are petrified .

    Not bout here, I got this, watch muh etc are boasts emptier than the bank accounts of the poor. The gunmen take out human targets when they decide and horror of horrors are not caught or captured.

    We are in an extreme bad place the country hasn’t gone before . Vulgar brown nosing by the blog master for GOB is a sick mockery of the reality of brazen gunmen killing people in broad daylight in malls in front of hundreds of witnesses.

    With the insane bail system many of the shooters are murder suspects out on bail. The government is responsible for the inalienable rights of safety and security of its citizens.

    Barbados is on the brink the murders and non stop shootings across the entire island makes redundant BERT, economic reform, investment , Re Re, White Oak etc.

    The socio economic foundations on which this once proud and safe country stood for generations is on the verge of total collapse.

  23. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    “Exactly what do you mean by younger?”

    There are older bats, present company excluded..lol

  24. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    There has been yet another fatal shooting in Barbados.

    the latest incident took place at Well Gap, Cave Hill, St Michael.

    Initial details indicate one man is dead.

  25. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    “The Democratic Labour Party owes several contractors more than $200,000 for services rendered during the 2018 general election campaign” (Barbados Today).

    Why don’t they just sell some useless party members to Saudi Arabia?

  26. Tron Avatar
    Tron

    Mariposa!

    “I see nothing wrong with hanging” – Minister of Industry and Commerce (Donville Inniss)

    Does this also apply if Donnville should be sentenced or would he rather be sold as a slave to Saudi Arabia?

  27. WURA-War-on-U Avatar
    WURA-War-on-U

    Now here’s an idea…why dont’t WE SELL ALL BLP THIEVES AND THEIR PARASITIC CONSULTANTS….AS SLAVES TO SAUDI ARABIA….only one boatload can get rid of 30 + THIEVES and their leeching walking dead hangerson out of the parliament and all their cartels and crime syndicates of CRIMINAL MINORITIES…out of the lives of black bajans permanently..

    And since all yall and DLP THIEVES ARE COMPANEROS…in CRIMES AGAINST BLACK PEOPLE…ya can all hug on the boat headed to the house of saud.

    Am sure Prince ASSASSIN and the house of Saud WILL BE HAPPY TO HAVE ALL U USELESS, UPPITY NEGROS…in Saudi Arabia.

  28. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar
    WURA-WAR-on-U

    See the problem with you house NEGROS…from the time ya own BLACK PEOPLEelect you and furnish you with titles and status and ACCESS to their money and pension fund, ya turn from being broke ass negros…to UPPITY, TIEFING NEGROS..who needs to be pulled back down to EARTH..and PUT FIRMLY IN YOUR PLACE.

  29. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Sir William Skinner

    Revels in the late 1960s and early to mid 1970s. He sees these as the halcyon days of radical political engagement in Barbados, of his lifetime maybe.

    Maybe he’s right but we seem to think that the period after the Haitian Revolution up to the Bussa Revolt was much more deeply and broadly rooted.

    Certainly, the radicals of the former period knew little about Bussa and the long revolutionary tradition captivating the whole world since 1688, showed little observance to the glorious standards set by General Bussa.

    The latter epoch was more informed by an ideological war than a continuation of the ideals of General Bussa.

  30. WURA-WAR-on-U Avatar
    WURA-WAR-on-U

    This African History needs to be taught in the now wretchedly, miseducated schools in Barbados..

    You will NEVER have a real government in Barbados unless you can find one that will allow the teachings to BLACK MAJORITY BAJANS…THEIR TRUE AFRICAN HISTORY..

    https://external.fbgi3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBFULQqKEqijipT&w=540&h=282&url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.face2faceafrica.com%2Fwww%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F06%2Fh-queen.jpg.jpg&cfs=1&upscale=1&fallback=news_d_placeholder_publisher&_nc_hash=AQBc1B9WoUM3CtZj

    “Queen Liliʻuokalani, Last Black Queen of Hawaii

    The question of whether or not the original natives of Hawaii are truly of African descent has remained one of the biggest puzzles ever.

    Although their skin, hair and way of life prove that they were of African descent, scholars have one way or the other refused to dig into their history to provide clear evidence to their story while also sidelining the little findings by several historians and anthropology scholars”.

  31. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    On this Fathers day another child have lost their only Dad to gun violence in barbados
    The wave of gun violence that is rocking these shores calls for more than words smd knee jerk reactions but a concerted effort on govt part to deliver on those promises made during election campaign to make Barbados a safer place
    The rise in gun violence were mostly the male is targeted should give another level concern to the rise in single parent house hold as fathers become less in the rearing of their children
    On this Fathers day Barbadians have to come to a reality that the gun violence is also robbing children of their fathers

  32. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Pacha
    You are way off target! I was merely trying to put the Public Order Act in context as a response to a request from John A.
    Take it easy Pacha.

  33. Greene Avatar
    Greene

    another one bites the dust but we sit and talk and talk and talk whilst Bim implodes or rather explodes

  34. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    Where are the voices of those who call for the protection of childrens right
    What is happening to the child who has lost it’s parent to gun violence is an irreparable damage to the child
    Social and physiological damage has long lasting negative results to the child
    Has govt given thought our concern to such a problem
    Or are these children who are also victimised left alone to deal with all the negative fall out that has been instantaneously handed to them by the lost of the father to gun violence

  35. William Skinner Avatar
    William Skinner

    @ Mariposa

    Although in recent times efforts have been made to make
    laws against children and domestic violence tougher, we remain very far away from getting them up to par.
    Once more the political gamesmanship comes into prominence. However, in cases such as when parents are murdered, once the authorities find that there are relatives, who could look after the children, they make the necessary arrangements.
    Most of these gun crimes / murders are taking young fathers but it appears that in most cases the mothers are left to fend for the children.
    I don’t think in theses instances that the state has been overly negligent. There are some issues that we should take the high road and avoid the scourge of partisanship.
    For instance an opposition leader should be intelligent enough , to express sympathy with the relatives of those murdered by guns and then call for a meeting with the PM to discuss the matter in a nonpartisan manner rather than first call for the Attorney General’s resignation.
    In other words frame the issue as National rather than political.

  36. Mariposa Avatar
    Mariposa

    William
    Agree that a more senstive thought by reaching out to these child victims of murdered parents at the hands of gun violence on both sides of the political divide should be heard

  37. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    @Tron at 3:48

    From where i sit I have seen hundreds, maybe thousands of wills in my time, and not once have I ever seen a case where a DLP member or politician, or a BLP member or politician left a single cent to either the DLP or the BLP.

    Maybe neither the politicians nor the yard fowls love the BLP or the DLP, maybe they all take their assets with them when they die. Maybe they are all poor as ass.

    Maybe they are all useless.

    You too Tron.

    Or maybe especially you.

    If the DLP and the BLP need money in order to pay their debts, it is up to people like you who suck on the breasts of the parties, who suck the blood of the parties, and the people, it is up to people like you to pay off the debts.

    Damn fraud.

  38. Baje Avatar
    Baje

    FREEAGENT

    Condolences to the relatives of the deceased. This is not the time to play cheap politics. We cannot replace these lives by our blame game. We need to get rid of the drug lords who have no sense of remorse when these lives are lost through violence. These lords sit back in their big houses and plan the next murder. Get rid of the drug lords and the guns and we will live in peace.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/06/15/dlp-renews-call-for-ags-removal/

  39. Fractured BLP Avatar
    Fractured BLP

    https://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/240294/peiza-ag-marshall

    Please Barbadians…..

    Stop the ROTTING !

    Fire DOTTIN !

    Law abidding citizens can’t take …..no more !

  40. TLSN Avatar
    TLSN

    Interesting statistic. Recorded homicide figures in the UK from January 6th – March was 100. The UK has a population of 63 million. Barbados has a population of 278, 000. From January – today, it has a recorded level of 29 homicides.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47476217

  41. Baje Avatar
    Baje

    Interesting statistic. Recorded homicide figures in the UK from January 6th – March was 100. The UK has a population of 63 million. Barbados has a population of 278, 000. From January – today, it has a recorded level of 29 homicides.
    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Since 63 million is 210 times 300,000 the population of Barbados.

    Barbados would be 6300 murders as compared to 100 murders if the Barbados population was the same as 63 million UK up to June 2019.

  42. Truth and Only the Truth Avatar
    Truth and Only the Truth

    The 28-year-old of Meadowville Heights, Prior Park, St James was recorded as the island’s 30th homicide for the year. Police say a number of people were liming and playing dominoes under a streetlight at Well Gap, Cave Hill, St Michael, when they heard a loud explosion. They ran, and on returning discovered Peters’ motionless body in a pool of blood. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2019/06/16/peters-family-reeling-from-tragic-death/

  43. SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife Avatar
    SirSimpleSimonPresidentForLife

    Well educated “terrace boy”

    The gunmen int pickin’ and choosing no more.

    May be me next.

  44. hants1 Avatar
    hants1

    ” The same day after Commissioner of Police Tyrone Griffith addressed a press conference in which he talked about revenge killings, the video surfaced on social media of the men boasting about attacking their opponents anytime or place, even during funeral services or school graduations.”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/240352/cops-checking-gun-talk-video

  45. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    @ Baje (6.19)

    You are right and you are wrong. How many of those deaths have been in London? What is the population of London? Who are the ethnic, religious and social and educational statii of the victims and perpetrators? Their gender?
    Until we have a proper sociological breakdown of the victims and offenders we will not get anywhere.

  46. David Avatar
    David

    https://youtu.be/bnHIkzroNiY

  47. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    When is officer Gittens going to face the court for the alleged killing of his neighbour? When is the woman who alleged she was kidnapped and taken to an ATM going to be charged with wasting police time, or the man charged? When is the man who assaulted Ninja man going to be arrested?

  48. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    The face of drug abusers in Barbados has changed. And, according to chairman of the National Council of Substance Abuse (NCSA), Hadford Howell, there is preliminary evidence showing children as young as eight have abused some form of substance, be it alcohol or illegal drugs.

    Addressing the opening ceremony of a two-day NCSA retreat themed Matters Of Substance, at Savannah Beach Hotel yesterday, Howell said: “There are lots of new challenges we are facing nowadays. Drugs are coming in all sorts of forms and fashions you may not have thought possible and we are very concerned at what we are seeing.
    “Research is beginning to show, and we should have some more research done by the end of the year, that drugs seem to be used by younger people, maybe even in primary schools.”
    In the feature address, Minister of Home Affairs Edmund Hinkson said the traditional look of a drug abuser was no longer the “paro”. (Quote)

    This man should be ordered to provide the evidence, of 8-year olds who have taken drugs or alcohol, such as medical records; if he cannot then he should not only be forced to apologise to the nation, but he should be prosecuted for abuse in public office. If this is not true, it is a scandalous claim.

  49. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    We must put this man to the test. Provide evidence or face charges of misbehaviour in public office.

  50. Artaxerxes Avatar
    Artaxerxes

    I have heard “children as young as eight having abused some form of substance, be it alcohol or illegal drugs.” I don’t believe the goodly gentleman would make such a statement “off the cuff.” Perhaps he may have relied on stats from reliable sources, such as the National Council of Substance Abuse, which is known to have conducted the relevant surveys and have made these revelations to the public on several occasion……. or the Criminal Justice Research and Planning Unit.

    Even if one goes as far back as 2009, the NCSA report re: “The National Primary School Survey 2009: A Comparative Study: 2006 – 2009, which was compiled by Research and Information Officer, Jonathan M. Yearwood, gave an indication of drug use among adolescents.

    Yesterday, for example, while near the Constitution River Terminal, I saw youngsters, not much older than 12 or 13 years old smoking marijuana. I assumed this to be their age range because they were wearing khaki pants. They wore “T” shirts probably so their schools could not be identified by the epaulettes, but by their socks, the schools could be easily identified as St. Leonard’s Boys Secondary and Parkinson Memorial Schools.

    I’ve also seen young girls from various secondary schools buying and smoking marijuana.

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