Grenville Phillips II, Leader of Solutions Barbados

It is well known that worldwide, corruption is normally associated with Government’s procurement (purchasing) of products (goods and services). In its crudest form, Ministers of Government will tell businesses (including consultants) to increase their bills, and to secretly pay them the increase if they want the job.

Businesses that participate in corruption tend to be too badly managed to successfully compete with their peers. Since Ministers shield them from competition, they tend to charge excessive profits for poor quality products. Their goods are normally substandard requiring excessive maintenance and premature replacement, and their advice normally results in unnecessary austerity for citizens.

The public must pay for all of the costs of corruption, including the excessive profits paid to businesses, the over invoiced amounts paid to Ministers, the maintenance and replacement costs of substandard goods, and the austerity costs. The Government contemptibly extracts these additional costs from the public by increasing taxes.

To get the public to willingly pay these additional taxes, and to provide enough ammunition to extreme political supporters to shame those who do not want to pay, the Government will normally tell the public that the additional amounts are required for things like health-care and education. After the additional taxes have been collected, these services normally do not improve, but get progressively worse.

To avoid accusations of corruption, many Governments allow competitive tendering. However, Ministers can still overrule a committee evaluating the tenders, and demand that their protected businesses receive the contracts. These businesses typically submit the highest prices and are the least qualified to do the work.

It is not uncommon for the public to be made to pay ten times the actual value of the work when there is no tendering, and twice the average of all other tenderers when there is tendering. The cumulative bribes that the public is made to pay is at least 10% of a developing country’s Gross Domestic Product.

It should be clarified that there are two types of tendering. When Ministers provide the oversight, corruption is almost inevitable. When an external development bank (eg CDB or IDB) is providing the oversight, then the risk of corruption is low.

The public does not normally get the opportunity to tolerate or object to corrupt practises, because of the sworn secrecy among those who give and receive bribes. The Ministers protect the corrupt businesses, the corrupt businesses protect the corrupt Ministers, the Ministers of each of the two dominant political parties protect each-other, and the corrupt businesses who belong to the same industry associations protect each-other.

Whistle-blowers are normally discredited with false accusations, imprisoned on false charges, or do not live long enough to tell the tale. Therefore, the public keeps paying the additional taxes, convinced that they are dutifully contributing to the care of their fellow citizens, but oblivious to the fact that they are actually paying the excessive profits of corrupt business persons, and the bribes of corrupt politicians.

There are two critical components that sustain a culture of Ministerial corruption in a country. The first is an agreement between the two established political parties not to prosecute any current or past politician. They are free to accuse each-other of corruption in order to excite the public and convince them that there is no such agreement, but there must be no meaningful consequences.

The second critical component is a politically compromised news media, whose main role is to silence and discredit any credible third party that plans to effectively address corruption.

Barbados is fortunate to be mostly free of corruption. For over 50 years, we have elected honourable Ministers who were fully aware that facilitating a culture of corruption would only economically ruin Barbados, and chose to reject bribes. We have received excellent advice from highly competent consultants, that Barbadians should be surrendered to the severe austerity of an IMF program.

Barbados’ unbiased news media declare that our politicians: are right and honourable, only walk the straight and narrow, and are cut from the same cloth as Jesus. They give Solutions Barbados, which is the only political party promising to effectively address corruption, the same coverage as other political parties. Surely there is a special place in Heaven reserved for those who practise such honourable and righteous acts.

 

Grenville Phillips II is a Chartered Structural Engineer and President of Solutions Barbados. He can be reached at NextParty246@gmail.com

100 responses to “The Grenville Phillips Column – A Special Place in Heaven”


  1. “Barbados’ unbiased news media declare that our politicians: are right and honourable..”

    Oxymoron alert.


  2. Mia “borrow” Mottley..

    https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/11/20/mottley-to-moreno-lend-us-back-idb-housing-funds/

    “The Mottley administration is seeking to borrow from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to build low-income houses in an effort to combat over-crowding in some public housing estates – money the previous administration sent back to the bank.

    The issue of density in areas such as Pine and Wildey, St Michael, and Silver Hill and Gall Hill, Christ Church, among other areas, still exists because the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) administration returned $48 million out of $60 million borrowed from the IDB for the Housing Neighbourhood project, Prime Minister Mottley said.”


  3. Excellent commentary Grenville.
    You need to be careful with the tongue-in-cheek final two paragraphs though….
    There are some yardfowls who are so retarded that they may actually fail to see the irony…..

    Personally Bushie prefers Caswell’s approach of just saying that they are a bunch of crooks..
    …and actually calling names, places, and amounts.
    But you are not him.

    LOL
    Shiite…. Where we got Caswell from though?
    ha ha ha

  4. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Grenville
    This commentary is quite good. Congratulations. I think you should be more straightforward in your critique of the media and not cloak it in the final paragraph of satire… on the other hand the Board composition of One Caribbean Media might make that awkward.


  5. I don’t think Grenville frighten for he faddah at all.

    However I agree people need to start speaking up about what has taken place and is taking place at VOB and the Nation newspaper.CBC and the Advocate don’t count – although even they are more balanced that slimy bunch at one Caribbean media.

  6. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    T.Inniss and others, several years ago when the Nation was started this matter of political interference with creating ‘real news’ was a credible accusation but in our modern era of 24-7 social media citizen journlists where some of them are uncontrollable muck rakers with limited scruples do u REALLY see the same concerns!

    Furthemore, don’t we have organs that are voices for the various parties … well except the third parties as Phillips’ noted.

    Your trope comes over as more spilled milk displeasure than REAL concern about fair reporting of the news.

    Putting libel concerns aside the Bajan media appear as keen to get real news as anyone else because if they don’t it will still be on Loop or WhatsAp or right here on BU.


  7. @Blogmaster

    [offtopic]

    What are your views on the massive reduction in corporate income tax rates caused by the threat of sanctions by the OECD?

    This is a big deal. I am really curious as to what the thinking is now on government’s overall taxation strategy in terms of maintaining revenues while encouraging economic growth and entrepreneurship.

    I also wonder how badly this reduction of tax revenue will affect the projected revenue figures of the BERT program and what the possible consequences might be.

    Very interesting times ahead indeed.


  8. We don’t have an Independent media in that One Caribbean Set up – that is VOB and Nation – and that is a very,very,very, very, very, very, very – dangerous thing -especially at this time.

    Don’t look at words or how people try to dress up their bias and the role as propogandist of this Mia Mottley government – they have been bought and paid with a price.

    A government which has all the seats in parliament – and with the attendant benefit (or nightmare) of being able to change the constitution at will – we need a formidable counter – in the form of a bull-dog like media,who will be tenacious,fearless and beholden to no one – in their pursuit of truth and justice for the citizens.

    And that is why persons like David Ellis,Sanka Price (but especially Ellis who has the chops) – veteran journalists would have forever etched their name on this country’s Hall of Shame – just for their 30 pieces of silver.

    Those call in programmes should be immediately be restructured and all those ignoramuses who seek to carry on like an election has not been called and won – should be cleansed from the VOB stables.

    With the exception of probably Ellis – those moderators are ’empty barrels’ – they have no depth of knowledge in anything,cannot bring strong analysis AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY ARE EXTREMLY,EXTREMLY BIASED TO MIA MOTTLEY – NOT EVEN TO THE OTHER 29 – SHE IS THEIR MASTER.

    The see their role as countering criticism,waiting for the talking points or information to be emailed in from Bay Street or Roebuck street as is necessary – so as to deflect from what is genuine concern from a traumatized public and calls for investigation and honesty by those in charge.

    Look how those retirees and pensioners with government paper were treated – their pleas and cries were dismissed by moderators as not being smart enough to know they should not have bought government paper.

    THOSE SEURITY GUARDS,SCHOOL MEAL WORKERS,CASHIERS AT THE COURTS,STENO TYPISTS,NIS WORKERS ,CBC WORKERS – SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN ABLE TO FEEL SECURE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE VOICE TO THEIR HURTS AND THEIR PAINS IN THE LONE PUBLIC FORUM ON AIR – AND WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE TALKED OVER,CUT OFF,HAVE GOVERNMENT TALKING POINTS PUSHED IN THEIR FACES – BUT BE ABLE TO FEEL FREE AND SAFE TO VENT – JUST AS THE COMPLAINERS AND CRITCS WERE ALLOWED TO DO BEFORE 24TH MAY.

    IN THE NATION NEWSPAPERS WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 2 PAGES DEDICATED TO LETTERS TO THE EDITORS FOR THOSE PUBLIC WORKERS WHO FEEL VICTIMISED AND FOR THE STORIES YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT AS SOME OLD STAFFERS WERE SENT HOME – NEW ONES WERE ENTERING THE DOORS.

    THE NATION SHOULD ALSO BE INTRODUCING NEW COULMNISTS ( SAME AS VOB WITH NEW MODERATORS) – AND THESE WRITERS SHOULD BE PEOPLE OF SUBSTANCE – NOT PEOPLE LIKE WICKHAM WHO HAS AIR TIME TO SPOUT HIS BIAS CRAP ON RADIO AND THEN ON SUNDAYS IN THE NEWSPAPER WE ARE BOMBARDED WITH THE SAME THING.

    ALBERT BRANDFORD WAS ABLE TO PRODUCE TIMELY AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMF DEAL WHICH MIA AND THE MEDIA WERE PROMOTING ABOUT AS THE GREATEST FEAL EVER – AND YET HE ( A SIMPLE COLUMNIST) WAS ABLE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS NOT AS GENEROUS AS THEY MADE IT OUT TO BE.

    Where is the voice of Professor Michael Howard, Owen Arthur (perhaps in a column),perhaps a Maxine Mcclean to produce balance,a Hal Gollop to give another legal view ?

    This state of affairs is very frightening indeed.

    THIS IS THE TIME FOR INFORMATION,ANALYSIS,INVESTIGATIONS,EDUCATION – NOT PROPOGANDA AND MIS INFORMATION AND OBFUSCATION AND OBSEQUIOUS BEHAVIOUR -BY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE TITLE OF ‘THE FOURTH ESTATE’.


  9. “After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, Government has changed course as it moves to dismantle a 40-year tax regime by next month to avoid “severe” international sanctions.”

    PM taketh and PM giveth.Thus saith the News.


  10. @ David BU

    Nature abhors a vacuum. Grenville II seems to be filling that void. Where were these skills prior to May 2018?


  11. ” The Mottley administration is seeking to borrow from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to build low-income houses in an effort to combat over-crowding in some public housing estates – money the previous administration sent back to the bank.

    The issue of density in areas such as Pine and Wildey, St Michael, and Silver Hill and Gall Hill, Christ Church, among other areas, still exists because the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) administration returned $48 million out of $60 million borrowed from the IDB for the Housing Neighbourhood project, Prime Minister Mottley said.

    The remainder of that loan was cancelled, she added.”


  12. Grenville got a long way to go…to convince me anyway.


  13. And that’s how it’s done! (Except for the last bit)

    “Extreme political supporters” instead of yardfowls. Grenville knows how to take good advice. He is growing by the week.


  14. WARU,

    Once, twice, three, four times bitten. Five times shy. Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure. But what is the alternative?


  15. Once the electorate gets rid of BLP and their SCANDAL SCARRED ministers, senators and their pimps and hangerson…..they will see clearly that their votes are WORTH even more, when they select candidates OVER political parties…..the people can then DEMAND….that they be RESPECTED and do not give any one of them aspiring to slither into parliament more than a 5 year TERM…stop give them pensions in parliament….make them EARN IT…..they have all had it much too easy in the last 53 years….10 cycles of useless governance ..time to ROLL back all the good times they have had and wasted and misused and abused the people with.

    As long as the people realize that their POWER TO RECALL every government after EVERY 5 years is INFINITE…they will catch on about what needs to be done to protect themselves against thieves and criminals pretending to be parliamentarians and leaders..they just need that little nudge…we got the time to do it..

  16. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Hants November 21, 2018 9:47 AM
    “After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue…”
    +++++++++++++++

    This quote from the Nation is an example of the incompetent journalism that is prevalent here. It is simply wrong. If raising the tax rate from 25% to 30% will generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, simple arithmetic shows that the total revenue raised by that particular tax would be $57 million/0.05 = $1,140 million. But the total corporate tax revenue in Barbados is less than $250 million, which means that the figure quoted by the Nation is utter rubbish.


  17. @PLT,
    We get the journalism we deserve.


  18. @Hants November 21, 2018 9:47 AM
    “After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue…”
    +++++++++++++++

    This quote from the Nation is an example of the incompetent journalism that is prevalent here. It is simply wrong. If raising the tax rate from 25% to 30% will generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, simple arithmetic shows that the total revenue raised by that particular tax would be $57 million/0.05 = $1,140 million. But the total corporate tax revenue in Barbados is less than $250 million, which means that the figure quoted by the Nation is utter rubbish.

    ========================

    Correct – absolutely piss poor journalism….but the journalists are selected from a population which lacks basic numeracy.


  19. @Vincent

    Agree that Grenville is progressing nicely of the alternatives on offfer including the DLP. He needs to need up his candidate selections and grow their profiles on the gound and nationally.


  20. @A.Dullard

    Similar popped to the mind. Clearly it is a forced position to align with global trend. The question is why was this not discussed pre election? We will have to wait to see if corporate responds by deploying the savings to create jobs as expected. Do we have doubts this will occur? This is a private sector delinquent in VAT payments and some taking a hit with debt restructure.


  21. Hants,Peter
    What do you say of this fellow countryman’s view of the currrent state of the Barbados outlook?

    https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/the-resilience-of-barbados-counters-trumps-sh-thole-remarks


  22. @ David
    Grenville cannot escape the hard work of working on the ground and getting his message out in the broader community.
    He is obviously not making enough of the golden opportunity with the DLP temporarily down.
    Elections are won by winning boxes not erudite newspaper columns. Until I hear about his broad based political community outreach program, I see no real political process or progress.
    In other words; Get out there now!!!!


  23. A. Dullard,

    It is not just the journalists who are innumerate, but the nation (metaphorically and literally). Just talk to dons at the university. This can be remedied.
    In the UK, ten years ago, we used to talk about dumbing down; employers used to complain about the quality of recruits. Over the years the quality of maths teaching has been gradually improved; now it is one of the best in the world. From last year, much of what used to be A level maths have trickled down to GCSE higher and most employers now require GCSE O levels in English and maths – from supermarket workers to university undergraduates. In my youth, one could do a PhD without even O level maths. How times have changed.
    We now have practising lawyers and teachers rushing to get their O level maths.


  24. He has to strategize on all fronts. Unfortunately for him to make headway on the ground he has to grow his national profile. The popularity of a political party has several elements.

  25. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Gabriel November 21, 2018 11:33 AM
    “Hants,Peter
    What do you say of this fellow countryman’s view of the currrent state of the Barbados…”
    ++++++++++++++++
    The National Post is a pathetic newspaper and this weak drivel is just a waste of time.

  26. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Well said @ 11:40 Mr Blogmaster. Everyone loves a man or woman of competence and Phillips is certainly that.

    The man was extremely impressive in mounting a full team of candidates and going from just him to an actual PARTY presentation… regardless of the illogical requirements and other mind bending proposals… his achievement was the hallmark of a man of excellence, focus and gravitas.

    However, I am at a lost of the lovely plaudits about a well crafted essay considering that this is the SAME man who still has some of the most incomprehensible (totally unworkable) policy proposals for justice reform…for example: …Therefore, if someone steals a cell phone, and a similar new cell phone costs $700, then they will pay a fine of $7,000 on conviction. It should be cheaper for an offender to buy their own than to steal someone else’s.

    You are absolutely correct…sweet words are mere scratch grain on his long pathway to real and engaging acceptance from the Bajan public.

    He is a bright fellow so hopefully he does really start to ‘get it’ as his policy thinking evolves.


  27. @Dullard
    Expect a dividend tax to offset the loss in local corporate tax.


  28. Someone is taking that ish to another level…as I keep saying….Mia Borrow needs a wake up call..for lying to the people, deceiving the people, telling them what she knows they needed to hear to rid themselves of a CORRUPT government…..lying that she would arrest DLP corrupt criminals then did not, Mia Borrow refuses to seek justice for the people OR recover any of their stolen money….but is only borrowing, borrowing, borrowing more and more money in the people’s name.

    http://www.afrikanheritage.com/what-have-you-done-barbados/?fbclid=IwAR3HtUOVQO4MnBS9KTv2l5EQgv8Jdi5f01czBJNrbNSJliC43FPoJpYN9uE

    “What have you done Barbados?
    Posted By Admin on November 20, 2018

    This is what my friend told me. Barbados is almost into the sixth month of government change, in an election that made history for a number of reasons. What I am seeing so far has me concerned.

    As I said almost six months ago we witnessed the making of electoral history in Barbados. One political party won every seat on the island. While many celebrated ‘licks like peas” for the previous government, that we all agree needed to be ousted and still needs to be brought up on criminal charges of gross mismanagement and corruption, the question must be asked did we kill one monster just to give birth to another?”


  29. No great surprise if Mia Borrow’s great mental midget plan is to sell out the Cannabis industry from under the majority population who elected her….which would show and prove to us beyond a shadow of doubt, if true…..that Mia Borrow is not even a 1/4 as intelligent as she pretends to be…just waiting for the other shoe to drop now as it always does with sell outs.

    The people have to realize they are neither BOUND NOR GAGGED…and can do a REPEAT IN 2023…..29-0…for Mia Borrow and her gang of scandal scarred ministers and senators, pimps and hangers on …..making history is a GOOD THING.

    “One man I was playing dominoes with under a streetlight in the ghetto said, the security for all the money being loaned to Barbados rode on the back of the agreed control of a multi million dollar Barbados cannabis industry. Hmmmmmmm. Wait now I say so, what happening with Cannabis in Barbados? A referendum on the matter was not to be had? Someone in a meeting I recently attended said a referendum cost nuff nuff money and the government don’t have the money for that. If that is the case I think we may have be bushwacked, hoodwinked and the greatest act of corruption is about to unfold. Again 30-0 has us bound and gagged.”


  30. RE So watch what you say about “sh–thole countries,” Mr. Trump. At the present hour, tiny Barbados inspires as much hope as the mighty United States.

    RUBBISH! CONCENTRATED BOVINE EXCREMENT !

    REST OF ESSAY IS SUGGARY BUT THE END IS DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
    BARBADOS GONE TO THE DOGS AND GOING THROUGH THE EDDOES FAST FAST FAST


  31. Barbados is poorer for not having varied outlets for stimulating debate on a myriad of topics and issues.

    Gone are the Oliver Jackman,lloyd Best,Elombe Mottley,Neville Duncan,Gladstone Holder – persons whose offerings were thought provoking and enlightening.

    Now the practice seems to be to get your name mentioned in the press and be seen and heard on TV and radio – and then you are suddenly a star – a Guru – you can write coulumns,or take control of a microphone and be a moderator .Even better you get catapulted into financially rewarding positions and MAY EVEN GET GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.

    ALL BECAUSE YOU WORMED YOUR WAY INTO THE NATION’S VIEW WITH THE HELP OF NON- DISCERNING OR PERSONS WHO WERE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY.

    Who is being short changed ?

    The ordinary man and woman who long to be educated,informed or stimulated to do some critical thinking.

    Look at who we have as the persons who put themselves up for political office.A great portion of them were made by the media.

    The thing is if the media can make you – the media can also break you.

    Politicians no longer emerge from their communities – where their track record of service TO ALL AND SUNDRY can be vouched for by their community.

    These politicians – do not have a depth of knowledge of anything – but they can throw around words – pretty,pretty – wear a business suit,some weave,drive a big wheel – and they are in business.

    You doubt me look at the political offerings for the last 30 years.

    Look at what we have been getting in the Senate recently – my brother Caswell excepted of course

    Look at who are columnists in our Newspapers – Jeff Cumberbatch excepted – although I think he needs to get off the fence and stop straddling the middle (and be definitive in his criticsm and praise) and ease those delicate parts from the pressure of that fence lol


  32. Gone also is a vibrant DLP.

  33. Vincent Codrington Avatar
    Vincent Codrington

    o.k.


  34. @ David,

    The DLP will keep its basic political party structure and wait for the BLP to fail.

    PM MIA and the BLP promised to save Barbados from the damage caused by the DLP.

    4 years from now we shall see what we shall see.


  35. It’s only now that some are nobodies wandering around in exile we get to her from them what we used to say on BU and what these same bacteria and nimbles laden jokers used to cuss us soundly for saying….but time is longer than twine, I expect to see so, so much more coming from them…..as time passes.

    “CARSON C. CADOGAN
    BORROW, BORROW, BORROW, BORROW

    BORROW our way to prosperity!!!!!!

    Mia dont forget when you BORROW, BORROW, BORROW, BORROW.

    You have to pay back.

    You and your cronies are on record as saying that BARBADOS IS BROKE. A broke pocket man, or in this case a broke pocket woman cant repay anything.

    Members of the Barbados Private sector with their billions catching catching dust in the Banks in Broad street and in offshore accounts cant help you out???

    Here is an idea, why dont you demand that the private sector which is holding billions of dollars in second tier foreign change funds in offshore accounts return those funds to Barbados?? They dont belong to them, they belong to the people of Barbados.”


  36. Grew up listening to Neville Duncan and reading Gladstone Holder. Were these men as good as I thought they were?


  37. @Hants

    It is not about waiting for four years to pass, citizens must standup and participate in our democracy.


  38. @Northern
    @Dullard

    Expect a dividend tax to offset the loss in local corporate tax

    Certainly one way to do it. But dividend policy and such like are even more prone to manipulation than “profits”.
    Also, since the OECD seems keen on a unitary tax framework this suggests a standard div tax rate for local and offshore cos? I don’t think that the off shore guys would be too happy about a div tax rate anywhere close to the average seen in most countries which suggests immediate downward pressure on any proposed div rate.
    Which leads us back to the original question, how will gov’t patch the hole?


  39. @Dullard

    Why is the PM quoted as saying the change in tax rate will not impact government revenue?


  40. @Dullard

    Why is the PM quoted as saying the change in tax rate will not impact government revenue?

    Because she has a mouth and can say what she wants??


  41. Worth reading.

    “NOW AS WELL AS THEN: BADMC, I’M SORRY”

    https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/columns/now-well-then-badmc-i%E2%80%99m-sorry


  42. Donna,
    No. Gladstone “The Muff” Holder taught me, and I have read Duncan. Holder was not the most outstanding teacher of my generation, and I was not/am not impressed with Duncan.


  43. @Dullard

    Fair enough. You must have noted the central bank has reduced the securities reserve ratio for banks from 20 to 17.50%? Decisions that make you go hmmm.


  44. @Grenville “politicians: are right and honourable, only walk the straight and narrow, and are cut from the same cloth as Jesus.”

    No they are not.

    Jesus COMMANDED that we love our neighbours as ourselves.

    If anybody has even met a politician who loves his/her neighbour as himself/herself please put their name here.

    We want a nice long, long list.

  45. NorthernObserver Avatar

    @Dullard
    Certain agreements, like B’dos- Canada, allows the tax free repatriation of dividends. B’dos allows currently, no dividend tax when the dividend is paid to another company. Hence one can see “ways” to get at some dividends and not others.
    @David
    The PM said it would not affect revenue, NOT the precise revenue source as we know it today. If you get $150M less in corporate tax and $150M more in dividend tax, the total is the same?


  46. @NO

    She needs to be clear. If not the media or stakeholders must insist.


  47. @ Simple Simon
    Before you persist with your usual tirade, please read the last two paragraphs of the article AGAIN.
    Also, look up ‘irony,’ and ‘satire’ before posting anything else…

  48. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Inniss, when I read u I can’t help but smile broadly…I say to myself “what an interpretation of data”.

    Not to say that your facts are wrong…nope…rather your slant is very skewed tho.

    There were always and still are I expect (haven’t read the Nation or Advocate opinion pages in recent years) excellent columnists from both sides of the political divide.

    Back then per the Muff Holders or Prof Duncans those guys were lambasted as political lackeys at times based on what they said…

    Holder was certainly what Americans would call a libertarian/liberal (as I recall his work, anyhow )…

    And there was always robust for and against to Tom, EWB, Bree etc…

    I completely do not share your view that there is any less of that now…regardless of the noise from the popular VOB programs…

    You are aggrieved because YOUR voices are diminished …and I get that…but to make your specious claims that it thus diminishes public debate is unsupported by FACTS…

    …there are TOO many other sources of significant noise that dismiss your lament and still too the regular to and for columnists in the regular press.

    Yours is the proverbial ‘the king is nakes’ lament of those who have lost the golden key to the kingdom.

  49. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    … is naked.


  50. @GP
    Excellent post.

    We arestill within the honeymoon period some wanted for the current administration, but we are approaching the time when you will have to ask your team members to be more visible and supportive./

    @BT
    GP needs to look at your 7:10 a.m. contribution and SS at 2:40 p.m.

    @dPd
    “for example: …Therefore, if someone steals a cell phone, and a similar new cell phone costs $700, then they will pay a fine of $7,000 on conviction. It should be cheaper for an offender to buy their own than to steal someone else’s.”

    Please help… I read and reread and could not see the glaring flaw that you saw. I read it as “make the penalty so harsh that a thief (or an offender) would think twice about doing the deed. Please let me know what I missed.

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