Grenville Phillips II, Leader of Solutions Barbados
It is well known that worldwide, corruption is normally associated with Government’s procurement (purchasing) of products (goods and services). In its crudest form, Ministers of Government will tell businesses (including consultants) to increase their bills, and to secretly pay them the increase if they want the job.
Businesses that participate in corruption tend to be too badly managed to successfully compete with their peers. Since Ministers shield them from competition, they tend to charge excessive profits for poor quality products. Their goods are normally substandard requiring excessive maintenance and premature replacement, and their advice normally results in unnecessary austerity for citizens.
The public must pay for all of the costs of corruption, including the excessive profits paid to businesses, the over invoiced amounts paid to Ministers, the maintenance and replacement costs of substandard goods, and the austerity costs. The Government contemptibly extracts these additional costs from the public by increasing taxes.
To get the public to willingly pay these additional taxes, and to provide enough ammunition to extreme political supporters to shame those who do not want to pay, the Government will normally tell the public that the additional amounts are required for things like health-care and education. After the additional taxes have been collected, these services normally do not improve, but get progressively worse.
To avoid accusations of corruption, many Governments allow competitive tendering. However, Ministers can still overrule a committee evaluating the tenders, and demand that their protected businesses receive the contracts. These businesses typically submit the highest prices and are the least qualified to do the work.
It is not uncommon for the public to be made to pay ten times the actual value of the work when there is no tendering, and twice the average of all other tenderers when there is tendering. The cumulative bribes that the public is made to pay is at least 10% of a developing country’s Gross Domestic Product.
It should be clarified that there are two types of tendering. When Ministers provide the oversight, corruption is almost inevitable. When an external development bank (eg CDB or IDB) is providing the oversight, then the risk of corruption is low.
The public does not normally get the opportunity to tolerate or object to corrupt practises, because of the sworn secrecy among those who give and receive bribes. The Ministers protect the corrupt businesses, the corrupt businesses protect the corrupt Ministers, the Ministers of each of the two dominant political parties protect each-other, and the corrupt businesses who belong to the same industry associations protect each-other.
Whistle-blowers are normally discredited with false accusations, imprisoned on false charges, or do not live long enough to tell the tale. Therefore, the public keeps paying the additional taxes, convinced that they are dutifully contributing to the care of their fellow citizens, but oblivious to the fact that they are actually paying the excessive profits of corrupt business persons, and the bribes of corrupt politicians.
There are two critical components that sustain a culture of Ministerial corruption in a country. The first is an agreement between the two established political parties not to prosecute any current or past politician. They are free to accuse each-other of corruption in order to excite the public and convince them that there is no such agreement, but there must be no meaningful consequences.
The second critical component is a politically compromised news media, whose main role is to silence and discredit any credible third party that plans to effectively address corruption.
Barbados is fortunate to be mostly free of corruption. For over 50 years, we have elected honourable Ministers who were fully aware that facilitating a culture of corruption would only economically ruin Barbados, and chose to reject bribes. We have received excellent advice from highly competent consultants, that Barbadians should be surrendered to the severe austerity of an IMF program.
Barbados’ unbiased news media declare that our politicians: are right and honourable, only walk the straight and narrow, and are cut from the same cloth as Jesus. They give Solutions Barbados, which is the only political party promising to effectively address corruption, the same coverage as other political parties. Surely there is a special place in Heaven reserved for those who practise such honourable and righteous acts.
“Barbados’ unbiased news media declare that our politicians: are right and honourable..”
Oxymoron alert.
Mia “borrow” Mottley..
https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/11/20/mottley-to-moreno-lend-us-back-idb-housing-funds/
“The Mottley administration is seeking to borrow from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to build low-income houses in an effort to combat over-crowding in some public housing estates – money the previous administration sent back to the bank.
The issue of density in areas such as Pine and Wildey, St Michael, and Silver Hill and Gall Hill, Christ Church, among other areas, still exists because the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) administration returned $48 million out of $60 million borrowed from the IDB for the Housing Neighbourhood project, Prime Minister Mottley said.”
Excellent commentary Grenville.
You need to be careful with the tongue-in-cheek final two paragraphs though….
There are some yardfowls who are so retarded that they may actually fail to see the irony…..
Personally Bushie prefers Caswell’s approach of just saying that they are a bunch of crooks..
…and actually calling names, places, and amounts.
But you are not him.
LOL
Shiite…. Where we got Caswell from though?
ha ha ha
@Grenville
This commentary is quite good. Congratulations. I think you should be more straightforward in your critique of the media and not cloak it in the final paragraph of satire… on the other hand the Board composition of One Caribbean Media might make that awkward.
I don’t think Grenville frighten for he faddah at all.
However I agree people need to start speaking up about what has taken place and is taking place at VOB and the Nation newspaper.CBC and the Advocate don’t count – although even they are more balanced that slimy bunch at one Caribbean media.
T.Inniss and others, several years ago when the Nation was started this matter of political interference with creating ‘real news’ was a credible accusation but in our modern era of 24-7 social media citizen journlists where some of them are uncontrollable muck rakers with limited scruples do u REALLY see the same concerns!
Furthemore, don’t we have organs that are voices for the various parties … well except the third parties as Phillips’ noted.
Your trope comes over as more spilled milk displeasure than REAL concern about fair reporting of the news.
Putting libel concerns aside the Bajan media appear as keen to get real news as anyone else because if they don’t it will still be on Loop or WhatsAp or right here on BU.
@Blogmaster
[offtopic]
What are your views on the massive reduction in corporate income tax rates caused by the threat of sanctions by the OECD?
This is a big deal. I am really curious as to what the thinking is now on government’s overall taxation strategy in terms of maintaining revenues while encouraging economic growth and entrepreneurship.
I also wonder how badly this reduction of tax revenue will affect the projected revenue figures of the BERT program and what the possible consequences might be.
Very interesting times ahead indeed.
@A.Dullard
Similar popped to the mind. Clearly it is a forced position to align with global trend. The question is why was this not discussed pre election? We will have to wait to see if corporate responds by deploying the savings to create jobs as expected. Do we have doubts this will occur? This is a private sector delinquent in VAT payments and some taking a hit with debt restructure.
We don’t have an Independent media in that One Caribbean Set up – that is VOB and Nation – and that is a very,very,very, very, very, very, very – dangerous thing -especially at this time.
Don’t look at words or how people try to dress up their bias and the role as propogandist of this Mia Mottley government – they have been bought and paid with a price.
A government which has all the seats in parliament – and with the attendant benefit (or nightmare) of being able to change the constitution at will – we need a formidable counter – in the form of a bull-dog like media,who will be tenacious,fearless and beholden to no one – in their pursuit of truth and justice for the citizens.
And that is why persons like David Ellis,Sanka Price (but especially Ellis who has the chops) – veteran journalists would have forever etched their name on this country’s Hall of Shame – just for their 30 pieces of silver.
Those call in programmes should be immediately be restructured and all those ignoramuses who seek to carry on like an election has not been called and won – should be cleansed from the VOB stables.
With the exception of probably Ellis – those moderators are ’empty barrels’ – they have no depth of knowledge in anything,cannot bring strong analysis AND MOST IMPORTANTLY THEY ARE EXTREMLY,EXTREMLY BIASED TO MIA MOTTLEY – NOT EVEN TO THE OTHER 29 – SHE IS THEIR MASTER.
The see their role as countering criticism,waiting for the talking points or information to be emailed in from Bay Street or Roebuck street as is necessary – so as to deflect from what is genuine concern from a traumatized public and calls for investigation and honesty by those in charge.
Look how those retirees and pensioners with government paper were treated – their pleas and cries were dismissed by moderators as not being smart enough to know they should not have bought government paper.
THOSE SEURITY GUARDS,SCHOOL MEAL WORKERS,CASHIERS AT THE COURTS,STENO TYPISTS,NIS WORKERS ,CBC WORKERS – SHOULD HAVE ALL BEEN ABLE TO FEEL SECURE THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE VOICE TO THEIR HURTS AND THEIR PAINS IN THE LONE PUBLIC FORUM ON AIR – AND WHERE THEY WOULD NOT BE TALKED OVER,CUT OFF,HAVE GOVERNMENT TALKING POINTS PUSHED IN THEIR FACES – BUT BE ABLE TO FEEL FREE AND SAFE TO VENT – JUST AS THE COMPLAINERS AND CRITCS WERE ALLOWED TO DO BEFORE 24TH MAY.
IN THE NATION NEWSPAPERS WE SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST 2 PAGES DEDICATED TO LETTERS TO THE EDITORS FOR THOSE PUBLIC WORKERS WHO FEEL VICTIMISED AND FOR THE STORIES YOU HAVE BEEN HEARING THAT AS SOME OLD STAFFERS WERE SENT HOME – NEW ONES WERE ENTERING THE DOORS.
THE NATION SHOULD ALSO BE INTRODUCING NEW COULMNISTS ( SAME AS VOB WITH NEW MODERATORS) – AND THESE WRITERS SHOULD BE PEOPLE OF SUBSTANCE – NOT PEOPLE LIKE WICKHAM WHO HAS AIR TIME TO SPOUT HIS BIAS CRAP ON RADIO AND THEN ON SUNDAYS IN THE NEWSPAPER WE ARE BOMBARDED WITH THE SAME THING.
ALBERT BRANDFORD WAS ABLE TO PRODUCE TIMELY AND IMPORTANT INFORMATION ABOUT THE IMF DEAL WHICH MIA AND THE MEDIA WERE PROMOTING ABOUT AS THE GREATEST FEAL EVER – AND YET HE ( A SIMPLE COLUMNIST) WAS ABLE TO SHOW THAT IT WAS NOT AS GENEROUS AS THEY MADE IT OUT TO BE.
Where is the voice of Professor Michael Howard, Owen Arthur (perhaps in a column),perhaps a Maxine Mcclean to produce balance,a Hal Gollop to give another legal view ?
This state of affairs is very frightening indeed.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR INFORMATION,ANALYSIS,INVESTIGATIONS,EDUCATION – NOT PROPOGANDA AND MIS INFORMATION AND OBFUSCATION AND OBSEQUIOUS BEHAVIOUR -BY THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN GRANTED THE TITLE OF ‘THE FOURTH ESTATE’.
“After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, Government has changed course as it moves to dismantle a 40-year tax regime by next month to avoid “severe” international sanctions.”
PM taketh and PM giveth.Thus saith the News.
@ David BU
Nature abhors a vacuum. Grenville II seems to be filling that void. Where were these skills prior to May 2018?
@Vincent
Agree that Grenville is progressing nicely of the alternatives on offfer including the DLP. He needs to need up his candidate selections and grow their profiles on the gound and nationally.
” The Mottley administration is seeking to borrow from the Inter-American Development Bank (IDB) to build low-income houses in an effort to combat over-crowding in some public housing estates – money the previous administration sent back to the bank.
The issue of density in areas such as Pine and Wildey, St Michael, and Silver Hill and Gall Hill, Christ Church, among other areas, still exists because the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) administration returned $48 million out of $60 million borrowed from the IDB for the Housing Neighbourhood project, Prime Minister Mottley said.
The remainder of that loan was cancelled, she added.”
Grenville got a long way to go…to convince me anyway.
And that’s how it’s done! (Except for the last bit)
“Extreme political supporters” instead of yardfowls. Grenville knows how to take good advice. He is growing by the week.
WARU,
Once, twice, three, four times bitten. Five times shy. Nothing wrong with that, I’m sure. But what is the alternative?
Once the electorate gets rid of BLP and their SCANDAL SCARRED ministers, senators and their pimps and hangerson…..they will see clearly that their votes are WORTH even more, when they select candidates OVER political parties…..the people can then DEMAND….that they be RESPECTED and do not give any one of them aspiring to slither into parliament more than a 5 year TERM…stop give them pensions in parliament….make them EARN IT…..they have all had it much too easy in the last 53 years….10 cycles of useless governance ..time to ROLL back all the good times they have had and wasted and misused and abused the people with.
As long as the people realize that their POWER TO RECALL every government after EVERY 5 years is INFINITE…they will catch on about what needs to be done to protect themselves against thieves and criminals pretending to be parliamentarians and leaders..they just need that little nudge…we got the time to do it..
@Hants November 21, 2018 9:47 AM
“After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue…”
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This quote from the Nation is an example of the incompetent journalism that is prevalent here. It is simply wrong. If raising the tax rate from 25% to 30% will generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, simple arithmetic shows that the total revenue raised by that particular tax would be $57 million/0.05 = $1,140 million. But the total corporate tax revenue in Barbados is less than $250 million, which means that the figure quoted by the Nation is utter rubbish.
@PLT,
We get the journalism we deserve.
@Hants November 21, 2018 9:47 AM
“After raising the standard corporation tax rate from 25 to 30 per cent effective last month to generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue…”
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This quote from the Nation is an example of the incompetent journalism that is prevalent here. It is simply wrong. If raising the tax rate from 25% to 30% will generate an additional $57 million in tax revenue, simple arithmetic shows that the total revenue raised by that particular tax would be $57 million/0.05 = $1,140 million. But the total corporate tax revenue in Barbados is less than $250 million, which means that the figure quoted by the Nation is utter rubbish.
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Correct – absolutely piss poor journalism….but the journalists are selected from a population which lacks basic numeracy.
Hants,Peter
What do you say of this fellow countryman’s view of the currrent state of the Barbados outlook?
https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/the-resilience-of-barbados-counters-trumps-sh-thole-remarks
@ David
Grenville cannot escape the hard work of working on the ground and getting his message out in the broader community.
He is obviously not making enough of the golden opportunity with the DLP temporarily down.
Elections are won by winning boxes not erudite newspaper columns. Until I hear about his broad based political community outreach program, I see no real political process or progress.
In other words; Get out there now!!!!
He has to strategize on all fronts. Unfortunately for him to make headway on the ground he has to grow his national profile. The popularity of a political party has several elements.
A. Dullard,
It is not just the journalists who are innumerate, but the nation (metaphorically and literally). Just talk to dons at the university. This can be remedied.
In the UK, ten years ago, we used to talk about dumbing down; employers used to complain about the quality of recruits. Over the years the quality of maths teaching has been gradually improved; now it is one of the best in the world. From last year, much of what used to be A level maths have trickled down to GCSE higher and most employers now require GCSE O levels in English and maths – from supermarket workers to university undergraduates. In my youth, one could do a PhD without even O level maths. How times have changed.
We now have practising lawyers and teachers rushing to get their O level maths.
@Gabriel November 21, 2018 11:33 AM
“Hants,Peter
What do you say of this fellow countryman’s view of the currrent state of the Barbados…”
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The National Post is a pathetic newspaper and this weak drivel is just a waste of time.
Well said @ 11:40 Mr Blogmaster. Everyone loves a man or woman of competence and Phillips is certainly that.
The man was extremely impressive in mounting a full team of candidates and going from just him to an actual PARTY presentation… regardless of the illogical requirements and other mind bending proposals… his achievement was the hallmark of a man of excellence, focus and gravitas.
However, I am at a lost of the lovely plaudits about a well crafted essay considering that this is the SAME man who still has some of the most incomprehensible (totally unworkable) policy proposals for justice reform…for example: …Therefore, if someone steals a cell phone, and a similar new cell phone costs $700, then they will pay a fine of $7,000 on conviction. It should be cheaper for an offender to buy their own than to steal someone else’s.
You are absolutely correct…sweet words are mere scratch grain on his long pathway to real and engaging acceptance from the Bajan public.
He is a bright fellow so hopefully he does really start to ‘get it’ as his policy thinking evolves.
@Dullard
Expect a dividend tax to offset the loss in local corporate tax.
Someone is taking that ish to another level…as I keep saying….Mia Borrow needs a wake up call..for lying to the people, deceiving the people, telling them what she knows they needed to hear to rid themselves of a CORRUPT government…..lying that she would arrest DLP corrupt criminals then did not, Mia Borrow refuses to seek justice for the people OR recover any of their stolen money….but is only borrowing, borrowing, borrowing more and more money in the people’s name.
http://www.afrikanheritage.com/what-have-you-done-barbados/?fbclid=IwAR3HtUOVQO4MnBS9KTv2l5EQgv8Jdi5f01czBJNrbNSJliC43FPoJpYN9uE
“What have you done Barbados?
Posted By Admin on November 20, 2018
This is what my friend told me. Barbados is almost into the sixth month of government change, in an election that made history for a number of reasons. What I am seeing so far has me concerned.
As I said almost six months ago we witnessed the making of electoral history in Barbados. One political party won every seat on the island. While many celebrated ‘licks like peas” for the previous government, that we all agree needed to be ousted and still needs to be brought up on criminal charges of gross mismanagement and corruption, the question must be asked did we kill one monster just to give birth to another?”
No great surprise if Mia Borrow’s great mental midget plan is to sell out the Cannabis industry from under the majority population who elected her….which would show and prove to us beyond a shadow of doubt, if true…..that Mia Borrow is not even a 1/4 as intelligent as she pretends to be…just waiting for the other shoe to drop now as it always does with sell outs.
The people have to realize they are neither BOUND NOR GAGGED…and can do a REPEAT IN 2023…..29-0…for Mia Borrow and her gang of scandal scarred ministers and senators, pimps and hangers on …..making history is a GOOD THING.
“One man I was playing dominoes with under a streetlight in the ghetto said, the security for all the money being loaned to Barbados rode on the back of the agreed control of a multi million dollar Barbados cannabis industry. Hmmmmmmm. Wait now I say so, what happening with Cannabis in Barbados? A referendum on the matter was not to be had? Someone in a meeting I recently attended said a referendum cost nuff nuff money and the government don’t have the money for that. If that is the case I think we may have be bushwacked, hoodwinked and the greatest act of corruption is about to unfold. Again 30-0 has us bound and gagged.”
RE So watch what you say about “sh–thole countries,” Mr. Trump. At the present hour, tiny Barbados inspires as much hope as the mighty United States.
RUBBISH! CONCENTRATED BOVINE EXCREMENT !
REST OF ESSAY IS SUGGARY BUT THE END IS DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
BARBADOS GONE TO THE DOGS AND GOING THROUGH THE EDDOES FAST FAST FAST
Barbados is poorer for not having varied outlets for stimulating debate on a myriad of topics and issues.
Gone are the Oliver Jackman,lloyd Best,Elombe Mottley,Neville Duncan,Gladstone Holder – persons whose offerings were thought provoking and enlightening.
Now the practice seems to be to get your name mentioned in the press and be seen and heard on TV and radio – and then you are suddenly a star – a Guru – you can write coulumns,or take control of a microphone and be a moderator .Even better you get catapulted into financially rewarding positions and MAY EVEN GET GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS.
ALL BECAUSE YOU WORMED YOUR WAY INTO THE NATION’S VIEW WITH THE HELP OF NON- DISCERNING OR PERSONS WHO WERE PART OF THE CONSPIRACY.
Who is being short changed ?
The ordinary man and woman who long to be educated,informed or stimulated to do some critical thinking.
Look at who we have as the persons who put themselves up for political office.A great portion of them were made by the media.
The thing is if the media can make you – the media can also break you.
Politicians no longer emerge from their communities – where their track record of service TO ALL AND SUNDRY can be vouched for by their community.
These politicians – do not have a depth of knowledge of anything – but they can throw around words – pretty,pretty – wear a business suit,some weave,drive a big wheel – and they are in business.
You doubt me look at the political offerings for the last 30 years.
Look at what we have been getting in the Senate recently – my brother Caswell excepted of course
Look at who are columnists in our Newspapers – Jeff Cumberbatch excepted – although I think he needs to get off the fence and stop straddling the middle (and be definitive in his criticsm and praise) and ease those delicate parts from the pressure of that fence lol
Gone also is a vibrant DLP.
o.k.
@ David,
The DLP will keep its basic political party structure and wait for the BLP to fail.
PM MIA and the BLP promised to save Barbados from the damage caused by the DLP.
4 years from now we shall see what we shall see.
@Hants
It is not about waiting for four years to pass, citizens must standup and participate in our democracy.
It’s only now that some are nobodies wandering around in exile we get to her from them what we used to say on BU and what these same bacteria and nimbles laden jokers used to cuss us soundly for saying….but time is longer than twine, I expect to see so, so much more coming from them…..as time passes.
“CARSON C. CADOGAN
BORROW, BORROW, BORROW, BORROW
BORROW our way to prosperity!!!!!!
Mia dont forget when you BORROW, BORROW, BORROW, BORROW.
You have to pay back.
You and your cronies are on record as saying that BARBADOS IS BROKE. A broke pocket man, or in this case a broke pocket woman cant repay anything.
Members of the Barbados Private sector with their billions catching catching dust in the Banks in Broad street and in offshore accounts cant help you out???
Here is an idea, why dont you demand that the private sector which is holding billions of dollars in second tier foreign change funds in offshore accounts return those funds to Barbados?? They dont belong to them, they belong to the people of Barbados.”
Grew up listening to Neville Duncan and reading Gladstone Holder. Were these men as good as I thought they were?
@Northern
@Dullard
Expect a dividend tax to offset the loss in local corporate tax
Certainly one way to do it. But dividend policy and such like are even more prone to manipulation than “profits”.
Also, since the OECD seems keen on a unitary tax framework this suggests a standard div tax rate for local and offshore cos? I don’t think that the off shore guys would be too happy about a div tax rate anywhere close to the average seen in most countries which suggests immediate downward pressure on any proposed div rate.
Which leads us back to the original question, how will gov’t patch the hole?
@Dullard
Why is the PM quoted as saying the change in tax rate will not impact government revenue?
@Dullard
Why is the PM quoted as saying the change in tax rate will not impact government revenue?
Because she has a mouth and can say what she wants??
@Dullard
Fair enough. You must have noted the central bank has reduced the securities reserve ratio for banks from 20 to 17.50%? Decisions that make you go hmmm.
Worth reading.
“NOW AS WELL AS THEN: BADMC, I’M SORRY”
https://www.barbadosadvocate.com/columns/now-well-then-badmc-i%E2%80%99m-sorry
Donna,
No. Gladstone “The Muff” Holder taught me, and I have read Duncan. Holder was not the most outstanding teacher of my generation, and I was not/am not impressed with Duncan.
@Grenville “politicians: are right and honourable, only walk the straight and narrow, and are cut from the same cloth as Jesus.”
No they are not.
Jesus COMMANDED that we love our neighbours as ourselves.
If anybody has even met a politician who loves his/her neighbour as himself/herself please put their name here.
We want a nice long, long list.
@Dullard
Certain agreements, like B’dos- Canada, allows the tax free repatriation of dividends. B’dos allows currently, no dividend tax when the dividend is paid to another company. Hence one can see “ways” to get at some dividends and not others.
@David
The PM said it would not affect revenue, NOT the precise revenue source as we know it today. If you get $150M less in corporate tax and $150M more in dividend tax, the total is the same?
@NO
She needs to be clear. If not the media or stakeholders must insist.
@ Simple Simon
Before you persist with your usual tirade, please read the last two paragraphs of the article AGAIN.
Also, look up ‘irony,’ and ‘satire’ before posting anything else…
@Inniss, when I read u I can’t help but smile broadly…I say to myself “what an interpretation of data”.
Not to say that your facts are wrong…nope…rather your slant is very skewed tho.
There were always and still are I expect (haven’t read the Nation or Advocate opinion pages in recent years) excellent columnists from both sides of the political divide.
Back then per the Muff Holders or Prof Duncans those guys were lambasted as political lackeys at times based on what they said…
Holder was certainly what Americans would call a libertarian/liberal (as I recall his work, anyhow )…
And there was always robust for and against to Tom, EWB, Bree etc…
I completely do not share your view that there is any less of that now…regardless of the noise from the popular VOB programs…
You are aggrieved because YOUR voices are diminished …and I get that…but to make your specious claims that it thus diminishes public debate is unsupported by FACTS…
…there are TOO many other sources of significant noise that dismiss your lament and still too the regular to and for columnists in the regular press.
Yours is the proverbial ‘the king is nakes’ lament of those who have lost the golden key to the kingdom.
… is naked.
@GP
Excellent post.
We arestill within the honeymoon period some wanted for the current administration, but we are approaching the time when you will have to ask your team members to be more visible and supportive./
@BT
GP needs to look at your 7:10 a.m. contribution and SS at 2:40 p.m.
@dPd
“for example: …Therefore, if someone steals a cell phone, and a similar new cell phone costs $700, then they will pay a fine of $7,000 on conviction. It should be cheaper for an offender to buy their own than to steal someone else’s.”
Please help… I read and reread and could not see the glaring flaw that you saw. I read it as “make the penalty so harsh that a thief (or an offender) would think twice about doing the deed. Please let me know what I missed.
@Bush Tea November 21, 2018 3:51 PM “Before you persist with your usual tirade, please read the last two paragraphs of the article AGAIN. Also, look up ‘irony,’ and ‘satire’ before posting anything else…
Mine was an ironic/satirical response.
The Simple spent some time in a very good university studying English.
Surprised then that i am still catching the ZR vans.
Lolll!!!
@Hal… That’s ur view ..
To the blogger Donna …YES.
Gladstone “The Muff” Holder did NOT teach me but I read he and Duncan too.
Holder was exhaustive, often very didactic and freaking difficult to digest at times but always also very thought provoking with all sorts of theories (conspiracies) and SOLID data.
Duncan as a pol scientist was brash and never minced his words and to me also appeared evenly critical (but maybe I was too naive then).
Hal were you the most outstanding journalist of your generation?
What in heavens name does that have to do with your contribution to the real serious work of that era!
You truly amaze me with some of your remarks.
Both men were quite powerful and impressive in many of their columns…and in some they were not…in the main however they left an impressive legacy!
@T.Inniss November 21, 2018 9:17 AM “their pleas and cries were dismissed by moderators as not being smart enough to know they should not have bought government paper.”
Those pensioners were idiots who did not know what to do with good money. Have hundreds of thousands in “government paper” and won’t even pay a good Bajan dentist $5,000 or whatever to fix their teeth, or buy a god set of dentures, won’t even give or lend a child, $10,000 to pay as a deposit on a house or a piece of land. Won’t even buy a nice tablet or laptop for a grandchild.
Won’t even buy Simple Simon a second hand car to save me from the ZR vans.
Since they didn’t know what to do with good money, except to put it down.
Mia’s government is right as shite to withhold it from them for a few years, since they had no intention of spending it anyhow.
Stupssseee!!!
Simple Simon, neither “B” nor “D”
Still thinking about how I will vote in 2023.
@TIniss “Where is the voice of Professor Michael Howard, Owen Arthur (perhaps in a column),perhaps a Maxine Mcclean to produce balance,a Hal Gollop to give another legal view ?
I must admit that I sweet on Owen. So I willing to listen to my sweetness anytime.
But Maxine as a columnist? No please.
Hal Gollop as a columnist? We don’t want to hear Hal, and for those of us who buy the Nation, we don’t want ANY [more] of our money to go to him.
If you TInniss feel so strongly about freedom of the press and balance in the press why didn’t wunna change the libel law when you spent 10 years loitering in the PEOPLE’s honourable house?
Why nuh??
Why?
Stupseee!!!
Bare joker.
Sorry David. I know that I am not supposed to cuss the other bloggers.
Theo as I have said to you before you love to joke around with your posts…
Buddy if you read and reread that nonsensical approach to crime management and see no flaws then why are we even having a discussion.
According to your perfectly working logic…it makes sense to impose an imposing penalty because it will be a great deterrent…SMH.
The death penalty stops murder according to you…
Current penalties of fine, incarceration etc stops theft, larceny etc.
The awesome ‘three strikes and you are out’ Clinton justice reform style program reduced indictments and incarceration.
The tooth fairy will come down your chimney at Christmas…oh no that’s folly.. Santa will or maybe a jolly Grenville!
Enjoy ur turkey dish, bro.
@de Pedantic,
Hold on, don’t give up. I gave a personal impression of ‘the Muff’ as a teacher, not journalist. I DID NOT SAY A SINGLE WORD ABOUT HIS JOURNALISM. Further, as a reader we no doubt look for different qualities in our writers. In a political scientist as journalist I am looking for sound analysis. I did not get that from Duncan.
As to being the most outstanding journalist of my generation. That is not my call. To be a journalist in the society I live in for those number of years was a great honour. I am happy with that.
Excellent Column, especially the last two satirical paragraphs. It’s nice to see that there are ever more Bajans that are beginning to see the tress and not just the forest. Hopefully in the near future(maybe a generation or less) Barbados may experience a revolutionary financial turn around, one can only hope.
@Hal, oh gee😂…you are slick…
You were asked about Holder as a JOURNALIST or columnist and speak about his TEACHING…🤣🤣
Bro, do I sound like a doofus to u…don’t answer that 😀
When politicans do that crap we cuss them as obfuscating, avoiding or just BSing…pls Hal!
Anyhow, I certainly always thought that one role of a great columnist was to TEACH/INFORM/EDUCATE … As Jeff does here every Sunday.
And according to your peers you did a great job in your journo role so please don’t come here and play mind or word games.
Wield and come again…
Bush Tea @ 3:51 p.m.
Murdah in de place.
Who tell yuh so good ha ha ha.
Dat does happen when you could only tek off and pinch off other people’s contribution – and you can’t post your own independent post but play yuh is de critiquer – in – chief lolllll.
Yuh mean all de time so.Wuhloss.
@DpD
You have a way of losing me.
I saw you set up a series of straw men and then bowl them over.
BTW… I am opposed to the death penalty.
There should be no need to address the other claims.
Have a happy turkey day..
@ de pedantic,
Grew up listening to Neville Duncan and reading Gladstone Holder. Were these men as good as I thought they were?(Quote)
Donna,
No. Gladstone “The Muff” Holder taught me, and I have read Duncan. Holder was not the most outstanding teacher of my generation, and I was not/am not impressed with Duncan.
@Theo, you can only be lost if you want to be….I created NO straw men. It was straightforward: premise-premise-conclusion reasoning!
You asserted that: …[I] could not see the glaring flaw that you saw. I read it as “make the penalty so harsh that a thief (or an offender) would think twice about doing the deed. Please let me know what I missed.
Or lets rephrase that as…
*All harsh penalties will make the thief think twice about crime
*A $7000 fine for a $700 robbery is a harsh penalty
*Therefore Grenville is wise to realize that all 1000% fines of the value of a theft will actually prevent (make them think twice) of the crime.
Now sir…insert murder, current penalties/incarceration or 3 strikes in the syllogism style model above and tell me if with these KNOWN programs if ANY have reduced or improved the criminal justice system!
Mr Phillips’ remedy can solve and will solve NOTHING….
… the average simple criminal who steals a cell phone or some crops from a field are generally not in a position to afford that level of restitution thus a few things would happen…the accused is sent to jail as the punishment or sent home to earn a way to pay the fine.
As far as I know that basically happens now..where is the improvement?
This is simple stuff …anyhow regardless of the efficacy of these solutions Mr Phillips has generated more debate so at end of the day he is moving his agenda forward another inch!
This Dem T Inniss is a comedian.Imagine he calling Ms McClean or Mr Gollop for balance.T Inniss seems to have amnesia so let me remind him of Ms Mcclean on Tell it like it is on the same VOB he now condemning,raising her voice at BLP callers or getting them cut similar to Ms Holder recently,and allowing DLp callers free reign to criticize the then BLP Government whenever she was on the air,so much for balance,.When CBC had in my view the three dem moderators people like you did not have any problems.you are a hyprocrite who is still disgruntled over the 30 to 0 and hopefully will be bellyaching for another 20 years and 90 days with the two perennial losers at the helm.
Oh shut up Lorenzo
Did u read in the local media that Mia is giving a Xmas present to big business in the form of tax cuts
Mia policies seem to be formulated on ” adding insult to injury”
In 100 hundred days and counting she has insulted the intelligence of the poor hard working barbadians
First it was the retiree
Then the vendors
Now the whole of barbados must sit back and watch her make the rich richer and the poor poorer
How is that for a change
Mr Phillips has to introdrouce his team before the DLP introduce their new team.
A brand new DLP team would criticize the thieving/corruption of the last DLP regime the Cahill documents, DLP the incompetence in managing the sewage flow and then point to the incompetence/corruption of members of the current administration. They would try to excise the Fraudel years from the DLP’s history.
Their next step would be point to their lack of connection to the last administration and then wrap themselves in the mantle of EWB. A ‘return to the roots”; a departure from the Fraudel regime; and a rebuilding on the foundation left by EWB.
Grenville team could also criticise the Fraudel years, but he does want to be the second to do so or to be seen as a me-too group. He needs to be first. He needs to quickly position himself and his team as the alternative to the remnant of the duopoly.
With the DLP dead and Mia floundering, let’s get that team on the road.
What became of the “quicksand pit” which was affectionately called the “sandbox” by Mia. Is it now a “litter box” or is it a “dead letter box”?
Inquiring minds want to know…..
oops.. you proof read and it looks good.. you post and it is not so good.
“A brand new DLP team would criticize the thieving/corruption of the last DLP regime, the Cahill documents, the DLP’s incompetence in managing the sewage flow and then point to the incompetence/corruption of members of the current administration. Also, they would try to excise the cancerous Fraudel years from the DLP’s history.”
Would love to see Grenville beat both dogs in the same post. You have to whack the dead dog, so that people do not forget how it failed to perform. You have to beat the live rabid dog that is meandering all over the place.
@ Theophillus
How is the cold weather treating you?
Dem mussee must say dat you and I talking bout Grenville lukewarm “pieces”
De man playing with these political parties AND I AM SLOWLY COMING TO THE BELIEF that he does not want to win.
I think that he is doing a David Commissiong thing – you know – where you “seem to be giving the government of the day “stick” but- under the guise of being a legitimate 3rd party – you secure enough sympathy contracts and money that pay you to keep quiet.
Imagine that he has two final acts to do with the vampire, after reading the Grand Grimoire Prayer to confine this legion to the furtherest regions of hades, and de man stop and say “he gots to go and pee”
And of course most fellers come heah and congratulate him for being a wuss!!
My man Granville, de BLP and de DLP ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS they are the Bubonic Plague and when you find the ast two rats that are infected, you do not make them into house pets.
But you going learn in 2023 when a stronger party than yours, with people with balls, come to the fore
Louis Lynch,Jimmy Cozier,Gladstone Holder,Tom Clarke,Neville Duncan and Ralph Gonsalves were required reading for many in the 60’s,70’s.I think Muff Holder liked the theories of Noam Chomsky.
I would have liked to mention Hal Austin,this enigmatic newspaper man/writer whose name appears on BU from time to time but whose message is beyond comprehension.
Do not leave out Oliver Jackman.
No one to protect clico policyholders, Mia Borrows lied on the political platform and now these victims of her Clico friends are afraid they too will be robbed by the Mia Borrows plan, just like the pensioners.
Enuff in Wonderland, what a thing.
https://barbadostoday.bb/2018/11/22/protect-us-3/
“The organization representing policyholders and investors of the collapsed Clico International Life Insurance Limited is asking the High Court to shield bonds set aside for its successor company from the Government’s bond restructuring process.
The Barbados Investors and Policyholders Alliance (BIPA) is asking the High Court to prevent any possibility of the Government altering the terms of the bond which had been set aside for its successor company – New Life Insurance Company (NLICO).
BIPA president June Fowler said when her organization and the Clico judicial managers appeared in court this afternoon, the matter was adjourned for two weeks so BIPA officials can get documents from the lwayers of the judicial managers that were pertinent to the case.
“The judge also wants to have other parties present . . . so he gave us two weeks to December 7 when we should have everything in place,” Fowler told Barbados TODAY.
“The NLICO bond that was set aside to pay the EFPA [Executive Flexible Premium Annuity] policyholders, we are seeking to determine that that bond should not be included in the BERT [Barbados Economic Recovery and Transformation] programme. It should be separate from the other bonds that the Government is restructuring. So we are challenging that,” she explained.”
@PUDRYR
As one of your posts contained some idea for GP, I copied and pasted some of it below. Grenville is upping his game and making progress, but he needs to add more dimensions to his current approach.
Thought I might placed it where he is likely to see it.
******************************Stolen from piece**********************************************************;
” IF A 3RD MOVEMENT PARTY DOES THE FOLLOWING.
They must publicly engage the services of 3 Retired Permanent Secretaries and some people who were trained in running government departments AND RUN A COURSE FOR 2 YEARS FOR POTENTIAL CANDIDATES
come to BU and publicize the course modules.
And create a YouTube channel and publicise video of the classes, every single month.
Show its students, show interactions with the teachers.
MAKE A FANFARE OF THE EXERCISE.
Seek to get the course accredited by an international entity.
Hire people like the recently retired Dean at The Faculty of Social Sciences Dr Belle or get attachments by people like Dean Jeff Cumberbatch and soon to retire? Leighton Trotman from the Office of the Auditor General
Show the bajan electorate that the 3rd party is ready AND WILL BE RULED BY OUR LAWS.
De ole man guarantees wunna that this, and a few other things de ole man will give you access to, will bring a VIABLE 3RD PARTY THAT WILL BREAK THIS DUOPOLY.
All touting Greenville new arsenal forgets he had a coup d’etat when his members called him out as a dictator and jumped ship.
Barbados already has a Dictator running the ship
Dont think barbados going to have another one any time soon in the future
Wunna people like kool aid too much
@ Maripoki
The last time you made an asinine statement about Stoopid Cartoons you know how that turned out.
You just made another similar comment so de ole man going show you, and others viewing, a response to that idiocy.
I now predict the rise of a third party in Barbados which WILL FOLLOW THE CONSTRUCT OF BUSH TEA and will break the BDLP DUOPOLY
That is a 4 year prediction right?
Enjoy the ride
@ Mariposa,
The Barbadian personality is an authoritarian one. Just listen to the voices on BU.
Not all of us, Hal. But most.
Hal absolutely correct
I have been pondering on the direction this government is taking this country and I must admit there seems to be no clear path that could be discerned.
I ask myself:
What is Mia Mottley’s governing philosophy?
What is the economic blueprint that she is setting out for Barbados ?
Whose interests is paramount as she goes helter skelter towards building the largest National debt
We understood Barrow’s developmental vision with the accompanying post independence burdens that had to be surgically dealt with;
Same with Tom Adams – whose singular focus seems to be a developmental plan with wealth creation at the top of the pyramid;
Bernard St john and Freundel Stuart were mere caretakers and would leave no outstanding national legacy other than they were decent men whose main aim seem to be ensuring that the ship (Barbados) was kept afloat as they maintained the status quo – so that – Barbados treasured reputation as a Country who paid their debt and never defaulted on their loans was maintained.
Sir Lloyd Sandiford’s personal characteristics seemed particularly suited for the leadership style needed for the time – that is, dogged and determined with Barbados best interest (and not the merchant’s) at the centre of his plan – so that in the crucible of the economic fires he was plunged in – he emerged purified as pure gold – to the extent that those who vilified him and cried – “give us Barabas ” – later shouted Hosanna and exalted him even as they placed the robe of knighthood around him and repeatedly reminded us of his sayings;
Owen Arthur was a son of the soil with great potential but got entangled with hubris and the belief in his own greatness.However at the heart of his reign was a love of country which could not be questioned’
Yet he would be remembered as a leader who was willing to try new things,and big things.
Thompson’s short time created more problems than benefits – and is best left for historians to dissect and analyse
And then we come to Mia – From her days as Opposition leader to date – she has demonstrated a dangerous tendency to burn down the whole house – in order to get at her prize;
She has demonstrated a ruthlessness that saw human concerns e.g. the Maria Agards of this world,or the slap-dash manner in which households were thrown on the breadline – as well as the seemingly lack of empathy for the cries of the working and middle class against the new measures being imposed – as mere collateral damage. A means to an end.
I noted with horror that despite Mia’s claim that the economic situation forced her to lay off workers and restructure the Public Service – yet in Today’s newspapers we were told that right after the May 24th election while she was decrying the DLP for their late pre elections hirings – yet Mottley was bringing in new workers in the public service – even as others were going home – and although agreeing with the last in – first out policy – this government was yet insisting that those who they brought in – in June and July 2018 – be allowed to remain ahead of those who had many years of service.
Look also at the imposition of the Sewage & garbage tax on the water bill – placed there because Mia understood that bajans especially the pensioners would seek to pay their water bill to ensure that their water supply was not cut off – so she so deliberately affixed the Garbage & Sewage tax on the water bill to ensure that persons must pay that tax – or faced having no water supply..
The imposition of a gasoline tax which would hit middle income householders and micro and small businesses the hardest.
Look at the auctioning of properties for lack of payment of land tax – or the demand that persons must pay one third of the principal up front even they were suffering financial lack.However compare that to the tax write offs for businesses,the reduction of Corporation tax from 25 % to 1 % – 5% tax now to be paid by businesses.Then too,the removal of the NISRL.
What really is Mottley’s plan for Barbados ?
And whose interest does she have at heart ?
Where will be Barbados be at the end of her 5 year run.
Why it is that when I read “The Barbadian personality is an authoritarian one. Just listen to the voices on BU,” Michael Jackson’s song “Man in the mirror” came to my mind? Must be because Hal had to be looking into his mirror when he wrote it, because he is the most authoritarian voice on BU.
Wait…!!!??
Don’t wunna people LISTEN to Bushie?
The Bushman has been saying it now for a while…
By now, ANYONE with eyes to see MUST be able to see this …
In sum….
HMBS Barbados was fatally wounded by the idiocy of Froon, Stinkliar, and their associated band of idiots –
While brass bowls stood around doing NOTHING…
…or Marched around …and then did NOTHING…
This after being captained in a slip-shod manner by one Owen – the economist (whatever the Hell THAT is) Arthur…
Which is what led to the idiots being elected….
Mia has taken up captaincy of a mortally wounded vessel …
and she will have the unenviable role of giving the order of “every man for himself”
(she will look after the women…)
Mia does NOT have the capacity, the people, the vision, OR the wherewithal …to save HMBS Titanic..
BUT NO ONE DOES NOW…
The LAST chance for that …was with one ‘Caswell’
…who SHOULD have BUPped…
Bushie tell wunna EVERY SINCE…
Look for the lifeboats…
Far bigger and better ships are already scuttled on the rocks of misfortune… To name just a few,…Afghanistan, Argentina, Iraq, Libya, Palestine, Egypt, Greece, Venezuela, almost all of Africa, – having fallen victim to the albino-centric curse that ‘catspradles’ us…
We have seen shipwrecks happening around us in the Caribbean now for DECADES…. while we sail along with gay abandon… following the VERY SAME albino-centric courses that caused these wrecks…
Our turn has come.
It will be worse for us now …due to our inexperience at handling misfortunes like hurricanes, earthquakes, currency shocks and social unrest…. our donkeys are soft…
It will get EVEN WORSE when the very MOTHER of albino-centric demonistic culture reaches her OWN inevitable point of collapse -….as does all selfish, short-term pyramid schemes. That role has fallen to the Donald… just like our Froon had the role of crashing HMBS Titanic…
Regretfully…
The grass will be thick, and rough …with plenty plimplers…for those soft donkeys…
Not paying piece any attention he has bern trying to pistol whip my backside ever since i sank my teeth into Caswell backside
What i said about Granville and his bunch of merry men members is not a secret
In so much that Granville had to make a public statement in his defence
What i detect from Granville is an sire of snobbery which can easily lead to dictatorship
He absolutely belives all of what he says but pretends as if no one get it
There are certain leaders for certain times.
Remember Queen Esther who the Jews venerate during the celebration of Purim. She was told by her Uncle Mordecai – ‘who knows if you have come into the Kingdom for such a time as this” .
That is why I believe that this is the season for a Donald Trump Presidency which will send shock waves across America and the wider world.
I sincerely don’t believe that Mia is the leader Barbados desperately needs at this time. Her actions in the past and her actions thus far – clearly demonstrates this.
Who is your preferred leader?
T.Inniss November 23, 2018 3:54 PM
RE I sincerely don’t believe that Mia is the leader Barbados desperately needs at this time. Her actions in the past and her actions thus far – clearly demonstrates this.
YOU MAY BE CORRECT……..BUT IT IS STILL TRUE THAT THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED BY GOD ROMANS 13:1
MAYBE HE HAS DETERMINED THAT MIA AT THIS TIME IS NOT AS BAD AS A HURRICANE OR EARTHQUAKE
Or a tsunami do not forget a tsunami
@ T Inniss
I sincerely don’t believe that Mia is the leader Barbados desperately needs at this time.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Pay CAREFUL attention… TI
It does NOT matter what you believe….
It does NOT matter what Barbados ‘needs’ at this time.
The LAW (the REAL law that Jeff C ignores) SPECIFIES that…
What DOES MATTER…..
is what Barbados DESERVES at this time.
As you well know…
what you deserve (i.e. what you WILL REAP)
depends on what you sowed…
Can a man sow shiite ..and expect to reap honey?
Did we sow the seeds of good, sound leadership
– seeds like honesty, caring for others, COMMUNITY awareness, respect for God…?
or did we sow seeds of brass bowlery – GREED, selfishness, spite and wickedness?
Now tell us TI…. What problem do you have with Mia again?
GP is 100% correct when he persists that…
” IT IS STILL TRUE THAT THE POWERS THAT BE ARE ORDAINED BY GOD ROMANS 13:1″
This simply means that GOD’s Law ALWAYS GUARANTEES that “the powers that be” WILL be those that we DESERVE..
rather than those that we may need, or like, or prefer….
In order to get the Leaders that we NEED
we needed to sow the seeds of RIGHTEOUSNESS (doing the RIGHT things – as we best understand them)
Rather than endorse bribery, corruption, dishonesty, spitefulness and graft that we KNOW to be shiite.
Caswell exemplifies this predisposition to go by the book…., and he STANDS up for it…
Most of the rest of us are willing to ‘play along with the shiite game of albino-centricity’… and to not rock the Titanic…
See if you can figure out why grass is in our donkey’s future….
@Bush Tea
T.Inniss is steeped in a partisan cloak and incapable of understanding you esoteric, philosophical and spiritual intervention.
LOL @ David
No problem with that…
Most are incapable… Parables were NEVER meant to be understood by the uninitiated.
Bush Tea @ 7:55 a.m.
I understand perfectly and agree with a lot of what you have presented above.
They were my sentiments too post elections.
There are not enough Caswells of this world who could staunch the tide of avarice and hunger for power .That is,persons who will not allow themselves to be bought with 30 pieces of silver and will continue to call wrong – wrong – even if is their muddah.
Sadly for me, I am beginning to accept Dr G.P.’s position of the law of diminishing returns of this blog.
Imagine David who moderates this blog believes he has the authority to emphatically state what I am capable of understanding.Well,well.
He must be a special brand of fella.
I understand how the criticisms and analysis of Mia Amor Mottley hurt the accolytes.Too bad.
I will reserve further comments.
Some seeds which are planted into the ground – and have the potential to be massive trees – remain stillborn – and we wonder why.Hmmm.
Nevertheless – looking at the direction Mia is taking this country – and unless some new righteous men and women emerge – my bet is on a gradually improving Grenville Phillips and a new and improved team.
Right now I wish we can have a team of advisors rather than these crop of politicians we keep getting .
C’est La Vie @ 9:21 a.m.
Sometime it is advisable not to cast your pearls among the swine.
Was looking for a snippet where the people of Heywoods would be permitted limited and guarded access to the beach.
I wonder if it will be an armed guard
This is not a B thing or a D thing, but represent a threat to every citizen of Barbados. This is a major problem in how our tourism business is conducted. It is based on making our citizens second class citizens in their homeland. Are we evolving to the place which South Africa departed form? Will we reach Bantustan? Soon, where they can go and when they can go will be restricted whilst and the tourists will roam the island like an invading force with the ability to travel anywhere, without any restraints.
Do we all benefit from tourism or do just a select few get the cream and sugar, whilst others get only the inconvenience of being a second class citizen? One day, money will pass into the hand of a minister and the laws of beach use on Barbados will be ignored. Private beaches will pop up here and there.
We have already seen non-national testing and probing the creation of private beaches.
The silly policy of allowing foreigners to own land has the potential to pit loyal/local citizens against the very richest of the world.. the Oprahs, Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos … Given the very small size of the island, we will have the very rich buying large tracts of land in the heart of the island; building mansion in the heart of the island; gettting into their air-conditioned chauffeured luxury cars and in a few minutes go through gates of some private property and have access to a private beach.
But we like it so… and the richest can buy large tracts of land in the US, Canada …
Posted to the Adrian Loveridge blog.
This guy T Inniss like he was born recently.He spoke of Mr Adams perhaps the greatest visionary we have had lead Barbados,with his ideas of a highway from the airport to the north in Speightstown as he forsaw the increasing traffic etc and the 10 cents sq foot deal in land for poor people,all outstanding ideas.Then for Mr Thompson he stated his time was short,maybe so but could not itemize one thing he did during his tenure.Perhaps he should ask Bush Tea who was promoting him as being so bright,as all I remember was free bus fare for school children ,and constituency councils which in my view served no real purpose and of course taxing the hell out of bajans in his first budget.As for Mr Stuart being a caretaker,really after eight years?T Inniss if you cannot see his acomplishments say so but to call Mr Stuart a caretaker, you cannot be serious.As far as Sir Lloyd is concern I remember him being advised by several economist not to back pay senior civil servants which he proceeded to do which help worsen the economy at the time with several of his own Ministers voting against him.Therefore if in my view your actions created a problem your subsequent action to prevent a crisis is expected since your actions would have helped create it.Therefore I can concur with the blog master,s opinion of you ,that you are nothing more than a Dem looking to nitpick and bellyache about everything this Government does,but we have gotten an upgrade in less than six months ,something the Dems were incapable of getting in 10 years and 90 days put that in your pipe and smoke it.
I get sidetracked often.. Here is such a case
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This guy Lorenzo has real punching power…
This is not a few words thrown together and then a hasty retreat behind silly hashtags
A very good defense
So Lorenzo what defense do u have for this lying govt who used a campagain strategy of lying to win the election
Hence today we have govt minister in charge of enviroment singing a differenr tune about the Sewer System and need to build a new plant
Has this govt have no shame after weeks of polluting the environment and wasting tax payers money to fix a pit toilet now have to admit they do not have the solutions
@ Maripoki
Are you some sort of an idiot?
That was a rhetorical question you do not needs to answer it.
There are two topics that you must stay away from here on BU
Mismanagement of the Economy and government finances AND SEWAGE.
And in order to remind you of the latter here is one of de Stoopid Cartoons that you respect so much
http://imgur.com/JZRIRge
Piece there is one word you should absolutely not utter
My words are mine unlike you nit running to the head of the line to kiss anybody a.ss
Rhetorical or otherwise those are my words and i stand by every one of them
Yuh need to mind yuh own business ole man