DAVID COMISSIONG, Chairman, Caribbean Pan-African Network (CPAN)

The campaign to secure “Reparations” for the multiplicity of genocides and crimes that have been committed against the sons and daughters of Africa during the centuries of Slavery and Colonization consists of  an “outwardly directed” process in which we level demands at the liable European and North American Governments and institutions for a comprehensive package of compensatory money payments, developmental programmes, transfers of resources, and national and international institutional reforms , as well as of an “inwardly directed” process that we African or African-descended people must engage in ourselves to repair those aspects of the damage that pertain most directly to our minds and psyches.

And deeply embedded in the concept of and campaign for Reparations are the following twelve fundamental principles :-

1. NO  IMPUNITY!

The campaign for Reparations sends a message to all and sundry that there will be no impunity for those who commit “crimes against humanity”. Who so ever  commits a “crime against humanity” must know and expect that justice will be demanded of them– even if it takes two hundred years, and even if it is their successors and beneficiaries who are ultimately required to make recompense !

2. VALIDATION OF OUR HUMANITY

If we Africans or African-descendants fail to demand that the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of those  institutions and nations that committed the most horrible crimes imaginable against our ancestors be held accountable and made to pay restitution, we would be implicitly sending a message to ourselves and to the world at large that we do not consider our ancestors (or ourselves) to be sacred beings invested with inalienable rights and deserving of respect and justice! And so, the very act of demanding Reparations constitutes a validation by us of our own precious humanity, and is a critical component of the process that we must engage in as individuals and as a collective of repairing ourselves!

3. KNOWLEDGE  OF  OUR  HISTORY

The Reparations Campaign must be built upon a foundation of knowledge about who we African or African-descended people were before the criminal European impositions of slavery and colonialism — knowledge of the achievements and glories of our pre-slavery, pre-colonial African civilization; knowledge of the history of European orchestrated enslavement and its destructive effects on the civilization of Africa; and knowledge of the extent to which the present-day materially imposing Western industrial societies constitute agglomerations of wealth stolen from the sons and daughters of Africa over the centuries.

4. COMPLETION OF THE EMANCIPATION PROCESS

Of course, the point must also be made that the racist oppression of black or African people did not end with the formal abolition of slavery! Indeed, after the abolition of slavery in the 19th century our historical oppressors deliberately entrapped our ancestors in economic, political and social arrangements that were designed to handicap them and to serve the interests of the former enslavers– arrangements that have persisted (in modified form) down to the present day. The struggle for Reparations must therefore be– among other things– a struggle to expose and put an end to such arrangements and to complete the Emancipation process!

5. COMPENSATION MUST BE PROPORTIONATE TO THE CRIME

The demand for compensation from the present-day representatives of those who inflicted horrendous crimes on our ancestors and who damaged and disabled succeeding generations must consist of a demand for the transfer of material resources in an amount proportionate to the enormity of the crimes and their deleterious effects—resources to enable present-day African and African-descendant populations to counter the economic and social imbalances derived from those centuries of criminality.

6. REPARATIONS MUST PRODUCE THE JUST SOCIETY

The campaign for Reparations or for Reparative Justice must be designed to produce the “just society”, in that the demand for Reparations must be formulated as a demand for a fundamental transformation of the currently existing inequitable and exploitative economic and power relations that exist in the international arena and in many of our domestic societies. This principle has implications not only for the restructuring of such international entities and phenomena as the United Nations Security Council, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, and the terms of international trade and finance, but also for the manner in which our domestic African and Caribbean societies and Governments function. Implicit in the demand of our Caribbean and African Governments for Reparations must be a commitment to themselves deliver justice to their own people! And this is a commitment that the masses of African and Caribbean people must be prepared – through dynamic activism and advocacy– to hold our Governments to!

7. WE AFRICANS MUST EXERCISE AUTONOMY THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS

An integral strategy of the contemporary Reparations Movement is to present the demand for the payment of compensation (in financial and material resources as well as in developmental programmes) to the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the evil system of slave trade and slavery and to invite their collaboration in addressing the tragic effects of this monumental historical crime. But even while adopting this approach, we Africans and African-descendants make it absolutely clear to all and sundry that even though we value the concept of collaboration, that the strategies and tasks to be implemented for our psychological repair and for our economic and social empowerment are our own responsibility and will be conceptualized, directed and controlled by us!

8. WE MUST REPAIR OURSELVES

A critical component of the campaign for Reparations is the African’s and African-descendant’s own inwardly directed struggle for psychological, cultural and spiritual self-repair. Thus, African or Afro-descendant members of the Reparations Movement and their governments must be committed – as individuals and as collectives – to seek to identify all of the ways in which we have been and continue to be negatively affected by false notions of white supremacy and black inferiority, and to rigorously attack them and eradicate the negative effects that impact on our individual and collective psyches!

9. SELF-REPAIR WILL GENERATE MASS SUPPORT FOR REPARATIONS

The effort to “prosecute” and hold accountable the present-day representatives and beneficiaries of the historical oppressors of the African and African-descendant people will require the widespread participation of Africans and African-descendants: and the attainment of such widespread popular participation will, in turn, be dependent on the inwardly directed struggle for self-repair and its capacity to persuade a critical mass of the African population to re-evaluate themselves and their history; to perceive the gravity of the injustice; to feel the tragic historical loss they have suffered; and to be sufficiently motivated to get involved or otherwise support the campaign for Reparations. The Reparations Movement and the African and Caribbean governments that lead it must therefore engage in a comprehensive mass education outreach programme to the community that is designed not only to educate about the relevant history, but to also help as many of our people as possible to emotionally connect with that history and the tragic loss and injustice suffered.

10. REPARATIONS MUST BE A BROAD MOVEMENT

The campaign for Reparations must be designed, on the one hand, to bring on board with us all of our natural allies in Africa and the Diaspora, Latin America and Asia and to enlist the tremendous weight of world opinion on our side, and, on the other hand, to isolate and publicly hold up to international embarrassment and critique all those entities that perversely and unreasonably seek to deny and resist the manifest justice and righteousness of our claim to Reparations. This will call for a concerted effort in the field of international diplomacy by the Ambassadors, Embassies and foreign Missions of the nations of the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) and the African Union (AU). It will also require consistent effort at the General Assembly of the United Nations, the Organization of American States, the Commonwealth and in other relevant international organizations.

11.  THE  MASS OF  OUR  PEOPLE  MUST BE INTIMATELY INVOLVED

The masses of our African and African-descendant populations must be intimately involved in the campaign for Reparations: they must be permitted enough time and opportunity to thoroughly discuss and understand the issue; their right to have the final and decisive say on the concrete details of the Reparations claim must be respected; and they must have a say – through representatives specifically selected by them – as to how the compensatory resources are utilized. Furthermore, at a national level– within our many nation states–the Reparations Movement should systematically appeal to and challenge all of the relevant local and national organizations to put support for Reparations on their agenda and to include it in their programmes and Manifestos – political parties, trade unions, youth organizations, churches, women’s organizations, educational institutions, local government administrations, and the list goes on.

12. NETWORK AND ESTABLISH A NEW INTERNATIONAL LEGAL STRUCTURE

The successful pursuit of Reparations will require the establishment of a world-wide network of community, regional, national and international organizations. Indeed, at the grassroots level, the community based Reparations organization must be linked into a national network, while at the level of our African and Caribbean governments we should establish a trans-Atlantic international network that is preparing and engaging in legal, diplomatic and political strategies at the international level to achieve Reparations. The African and African-descendants Reparations Claim (s) will either be consensually negotiated between mutually respectful State parties gathered around an international negotiating table, or it will have to be litigated in a series of international law cases brought against the Governments of the liable nations.

CONCLUSION :

The time has come for the African and African descendant people of the world and their Governments to finally present their Reparations Bill to the current day successor Governments of those national Governments of Europe and North America that organized, facilitated, legitimized, financed, and benefited from the trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and the associated system of racialized Chattel Slavery — the governments of Britain, Spain, France, Portugal, Holland, Belgium, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Norway, and the United States of America (a former colony that perpetuated the enslavement of African people for nearly one hundred years after attaining its independence).

Onwards to the achievement of Reparations in this United Nations International Decade For People of African Descent!

287 responses to “REPARATIONS MADE SIMPLE or almost everybody’s guide to reparations”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson….first of all I dont get any of your blighted money.., wont want it anyway….the native indigenous to Canada needs it more than I ever will…ya should be paying more to them for tiefing their land….

    ….and the aid sent to Caribbean is nothing if yall tiefing it back another way as ya would, wont you prefer pay one lumpsum in whatever form…. instead of yearly handouts….

    I prefer watch you on the trump bandwagon, ya will look good in organge sitting next to him in handcuffs, everyone is distancing themselves from the trump curse, dont even want to do business with him anymore……so good luck.

  2. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    We have now passed the stage of detractors claiming that the Black descendants of African Slaves should not be given back what was stolen..……there is existing precedent and a valid claim for Caribbean Blacks to be returned their due for crimes perpetrated by whites against their ancestors……and which continues against those descendants to this day..

    THE THEFT OF LABOR, RAPES, MURDERS & KIDNAPPING….just to name four….from the slavery era.

    That is a serious curse that follows the descendants of slave masters.

    MoneyB….so your taxes going to the indigenous native Canada….means ya still paying for crimes against humanity in Canada and ya can’t argue or tell the Canadian government no, that you were not there, turns out not even your ancestors were in Canada, but ya still have to pay…..lol

    Is that Karma or what,….lol

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson…turn what economy around, Obama left a strong economy….it has now lost over 200,000 jobs….first time in years, turn what around what….the dotard is destroying the US economy daily…and his dumb supporters are helping him…lol

    Stick with wishing Caribbean people dont get what is rightfully theirs, that won’t worker either, but ya will be doing for longer…until ya drooling in ya diapers…..or be shocked into realizing the case is settled….which is much longer than dotard will last.

    No one cares whose economy is bad and who is claiming to not have money……there are things more important than money which can be returned to people of African descent in the Caribbean….

    …..the one thing intelligent people care nothing about are the descendants of slave masters who still benefit from the crimes of their ancestors, who still perpetrate those now refined crimes against Caribbean and other people of African descent….of which they are many of both.

    MoneyB and Vincent now have to face reality as it is being handed to them, what they think, wish for and want have been removed from their fantasies….they wasted years on that crap…..demeaned and reduced themselves to obsessing against righting a wrong.


  4. Our deal with the indians was contractual its not my fault that they had a penchant for beads and baubles, not much different today women giving up their forest for a diamond or two. But I am glad you see foreign aid as reparations being meted out.
    Now what is an island worth, you were given it even though you didnt find it,

  5. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Yall will not stop with the lies, I ignored it yesterday, ya back with it today…when did white thieves put land anywhere….none of you own land, ya just stole what is not yours like ya always do…,

    ….. all the Caribbean islands were inhabited when hungry, bedraggled white thieves washed ashore stealing, killing and raping….the indigenous natives of the islands, all of them of African and Amerindian descent always owned them, no one asked white enslavers to transport people as cargo across an atlantic from Africa ocean to enrich themselves….yall dont own any land, so none is yours to give away….

    After no profit was available through riotous slaves, yall hightailed it back to Europe and North America to refine ya thievery using the islands…..that is what the reparations movement have in strength….ya still using crimes against the African descendants…of slaves…..yall still using an extension of the slave trade, to commit human rights crimes against those descendants to continue to enrich ya selves today..

    Yall are still thieves…, an extension of ya thieving ancestors.

    Those First Nation indigenous Canadian Natives will throw a shock in yall, just time.

  6. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Worse still…..genetic testing will prove that many Caribbean Blacks are indigenous to the islands from centuries before white thieves arrived…and their ancestors were also enslaved….which makes for any even stronger claim for reparations…thieves walking into people’s land, thiefing their land, raping their men, women, and children……and enslaving them for profit….for centuries.

  7. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Since Belize is located on the Caribbean coast of northern Central America ….it can be proven that is one location where many indigenous natives of African and Amerindian descent who populated the Caribbean islands ran to in order to get away from white thieves and murderers….who invadeed their islands…they too have a very strong claim.

  8. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Know your history, both Caribs and Arawaks are indigenous to Barbados.

    “Barbados may be a small island, but it still has an incredibly rich history. … the Barbadian population had shifted from majority white British to majority black African …”

    “Gari’funa of Belize.
    The Gari’funa, also known as Caribs or Black Caribs, are not native to Central America but can be classified as an Indian element on the basis of their genetic makeup and their use of a language indigenous to the Americas. Of mixed African and Carib Indian descent, the Gari’funa originated on St. Vincent Island in the Lesser Antilles. Gari’funa were deported by the British to Honduras in 1797 and reached Belize during the early nineteenth century. Gari’funa are concentrated in six villages in southern Belize near the Caribbean coast..”

    “The recorded history of the Caribbean island of Grenada begins in the early 17th century. First settled by indigenous peoples, by the time of European contact it was inhabited by the Caribs. French colonists drove most of the Caribs off the island and established plantations on the island, eventually importing African slaves to work on the sugar plantations.”


  9. WW, your reading is slipping I said the MINORITY not —“ties”. ie few people paying the Taxes, mainly Income Taxes in those days

  10. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    MoneyB…i am not slipping…the minor..ity…..the got free labor, they stole labor from slave and their descendants….and still do today…

    so who ya think planted and reaped the sugar cane and cotton, built the roads and houses …for free..

    certainly not lazy ass white thieves pretending to be superior…

    outside of all the crimes of rape, murder and brutality perpetrated by whites…ya are missing the most fundamental right to the claim…..

    theft of labor….centuries of theft.

    which the descendants of indentured servants took it upon themselves, post slavery, to continue perpetrating on the majority population to this day, theft of labor, theft of taxpayers and pension money…

    tiefing is tiefing no matter the era.

  11. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    which the descendants of indentured servants took it upon themselves, post slavery, to continue perpetrating on the majority population to this day, theft of labor, theft of taxpayers and pension money……which is an extension of the African Slave Trade….modern day slavery…

    when bizzy, cow, bjerkham, maloney and all the known minor…ity thieves take it upon themselves to run scams on the treasury and pension fund, stealing hundreds of millions from treasury and pension fund to enrich themselves, doing shoddy road construction and building mediocre houses and buildings…..depriving the majority population of their own money, disenfranchising generations of the majority population and the island of funding to create jobs using other avenues….that is theft and modern day slavery.

    i wish the reparations movement would take that very seriously, because the house negros in parliament from either side…wont, they are too corrupt.

  12. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    ah thought one of yall would jump out to tell me that tiefing was not a crime in the Caribbean in the 1600s….lol

    foolish me.


  13. Anyone who talks of reparations for Blacks in terms of ‘dollars’, … exposes their complete and total ignorance of what is at stake.

    There is NO AMOUNT OF DOLLARS ANYWHERE, that can be construed to compensate for the savagery that has been perpetrated on multiple generations of blacks over the centuries.

    Indeed, even though the inhumanity that we have seen against Jews, American Indians, Arawaks and multiple other groups of people – pale in comparison to what has been done (and continues) against Blacks – EVEN THIS TOO defies any rational monetary valuation.

    Only when ‘Come-and-Sing-a-song’ et al come to this realisation, will they realise that their calls for reparations are equivalent to a man beating and raping your grandmother, mother and daughter publicly for decades, ….and you then calling on him to pay you compensation at the going rate…. in order to ‘make things right’…..

    Total and complete SHIITE!!!!

    As Bob Marley RIGHTLY says…..
    “We no know how we and them a go work this out …. Me nuh know..”
    BUT SOMEONE WILL HAVE TO PAY……..for the innocent blood that they shed….

    Its what the bible say….. 🙂


  14. millertheanunnaki October 18, 2017 at 8:47 PM #

    Yuh still got muh kerfuffled…….

    Are you saying then that all o we so entitled…..like Maloney and others with a very light skintone who have admitted as to having a lick of the tar brush in their ancestry?


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    A white supremacist’s speech is causing anxiety at the University of Florida

    Protests are expected Thursday for Richard Spencer’s speech

    (CNN)The University of Florida in Gainesville is bracing for a day of protests Thursday when white supremacist Richard Spencer arrives on campus to deliver a speech on his racist views.

    The event, scheduled for Thursday afternoon, will be Spencer’s first visit to a college campus since he and others participated in the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in August.

       

    University and local officials are concerned that Thursday’s event could also become violent, and they have taken a number of steps to prevent that.

    On Monday, Florida Gov. Rick Scott declared a state of emergency for Alachua County, where the university is located, to enable law enforcement agencies to work together more efficiently. He also made a provision for the National Guard to be activated if necessary.

    "I find that the threat of a potential emergency is imminent," Scott said in the executive orderdeclaring the state of emergency.

    The event puts the university in the middle of an ongoing debate about what constitutes protected speech and the extent of its limits. University of Florida President W. Kent Fuchs denounced Spencer’s white supremacist platform as abhorrent in a letter to students but said the school could not stop him from renting the Phillips Center for the event.

    Fuchs told CNN there will be more police on campus Thursday than at any time in the university’s history.

    "It’s not going to feel like a research university for 50,000 students, and the whole purpose of that is to keep people safe," he said.

    White supremacist Richard Spencer speaks at Texas A&M

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    "There’s a lot of fear, there’s a lot of anxiety," she said. "There’s a lot of just unknown what’s going to happen."

    Spencer is the president of the National Policy Institute and a leader of the white supremacist movement that advocates for a white "awakening" and a white state.

    "America was, until this last generation, a white country, designed for ourselves and our posterity. It is our creation and our inheritance, and it belongs to us," he said in a speech last November.

    Florida’s response

    In an interview with CNN on Tuesday, Spencer said he was flattered by the state of emergency declaration, which he said put him on par with "hurricanes and invading armies and zombie apocalypses."

    Still, he said he thought the declaration was overkill.

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    State of emergency declared ahead of white supremacist speech in Florida

    "The fact is, if the police simply do their job, my speech and the whole event will go off wonderfully," Spencer said.

    Previous speeches from Spencer on college campuses have sparked protests, including at Texas A&M in December and Alabama’s Auburn University in April. He also led a group of supporters carrying torches in May in Charlottesville in a display that critics said evoked images of the Ku Klux Klan.

    That rally set the stage for violent protests that erupted in Charlottesville in August between white nationalists and counterprotesters. There, police say a man among the white nationalist demonstrators drove a car into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing one woman.

    Spencer returned to Charlottesville in October with dozens of supporters carrying tiki torches and chanting phrases like "You will not replace us."

    Alachua County Sheriff’s Office spokesman Chris Sims said the office used the lessons of Charlottesville in planning for the Florida event. The sheriff’s office and Gainesville Police Department had doubled or in some cases tripled their normal staffing levels as of Wednesday morning, Sims said.

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    Outside the speech venue, law enforcement sectioned off one area for pro-Spencer protesters and another area for anti-Spencer protesters, each about 50 yards apart. The university also banned an extensive list of items, including torches, masks, weapons and athletic equipment that could be used as a weapon.

    It remains unclear how many people are expected to attend or protest the speech. A Facebook event called "No Nazis at UF" that planned to peacefully protest against Spencer had about 3,000 marked as going.

    Fuchs, the university president, advised students to shun Spencer and to speak against his "message of hate and racism."

    "UF has been clear and consistent in its denunciation of all hate speech and racism, and in particular the racist speech and white nationalist values of Mr. Spencer," Fuchs said. "I personally find the doctrine of white supremacy abhorrent and denounce all forms of racism and hate."

    By law, the school must pay for the additional costs of security. Given the heightened concerns, the school is providing extra security that exceeds $600,000, Fuchs said.

    That cost will essentially be passed on to taxpayers, which Fuchs said was unfair.

    "I really don’t believe that’s fair that the taxpayer is now subsidizing through these kind of events the security and having to subsidize his hate speech," he said.

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    White supremacist Richard Spencer denied at University of Florida

    As a public university, Florida is prohibited from stopping the event based on the contents or views of the speech, Fuchs said. The university provided a permit for Spencer to speak, but the event is unaffiliated with the school, and no student groups sponsored the speech or invited Spencer, the university said.

    Still, Fuchs did take one positive lesson from what he called Spencer’s "anti-American" message.

    "The one thing that comes out of this, though, is it is prompting a great discussion around race and religion and the value of diversity of that on a university campus," Fuchs said.

    CNN’s Rosa Flores and Kevin Conlon contributed to this report.


  16. Hey David
    Soon to accused of hijacking the post.

  17. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Vincent Haynes October 19, 2017 at 10:47 AM

    What kind of bandwagon hopping is this, Vincent?

    We are not talking about the johnny-come-lately “red” people like Maloney from the post-Emancipation coating with the tar brush located in the servants’ quarters; or even Bizzy who has found happiness by ‘officially’ dipping into the hot black honey pot.

    To be truly entitled (not to any monetary reparations but educational and business opportunities) you must first go through DNA testing prove your West African genetic heritage.

    Once this link is established then there must be contriteness by dropping that false sense of superiority over ‘darker’ blacks and by amending, in ironic suasion, the lines in the Calypso “Mulatto”: ‘Me and dem black people are really de same thing’.

    So Vince, are you prepared to jump on board even at this late stage in the reparations game?

    Even your soul mates of ‘colour’, John and Money B, could join you on Golgotha to seek forgiveness before entering into the heaven for Reparations to join the abolitionists and sit at the right hand of Granville Sharpe while being served milk and honey by the ‘coloured’ workers from the ‘black’ distaff side of your ancestral family tree.

    But let us guess that you ‘middle-earth’ guys, still living in limbo, are today so well off just an exercise in Truth and Reconciliation would suffice like a ‘red’ rose.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    ”Did you know that Britain, instead of paying reparations to the various Africans who were enslaved and their families after the so called abolition of slavery, actually paid money to these families that owned slaves, to the tune of millions of British Pounds in today’s money?
    Did you know that while they were forcefully dehumanising, enslaving, murdering hundred of millions, castrating, hurting, physically abusing, raping, exploiting hundred of millions of innocent people, they were making money from it and developing their economies and so called nations and even after the so called abolition of slavery?

    And you the African at home and abroad has failed to unite and stand together with your kind at home and abroad and fight against these evil beings and their descendants who still live off these wealth.

    While you continue to wallow in your ignorance, stupidity and divisions, other men who have benefited from your exploitation still do today and those men will continue to support and protect leaders that now look like you and exploit you.”- Teekay Akin FreedomMovementVoice
    Continue reading

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/britains-colonial-shame-slaveowners-given-huge-payouts-after-abolition-8508358.html

    Names of slave owners compensated exposed…many have since change their names, but it doesn’t matter….a database of names is till available to the public

    Britain’s colonial shame: Slave-owners given huge payouts after abolition

    David Cameron’s ancestors were among the wealthy families who received generous reparation payments that would be worth millions of pounds in today’s money

    Sanchez Manning Sunday 24 February 2013 00:00 GMT7 comments

    Slavery on an industrial scale was a major source of the wealth of the British empire Getty Images
    The true scale of Britain’s involvement in the slave trade has been laid bare in documents revealing how the country’s wealthiest families received the modern equivalent of billions of pounds in compensation after slavery was abolished.

    The previously unseen records show exactly who received what in payouts from the Government when slave ownership was abolished by Britain – much to the potential embarrassment of their descendants. Dr Nick Draper from University College London, who has studied the compensation papers, says as many as one-fifth of wealthy Victorian Britons derived all or part of their fortunes from the slave economy.

    As a result, there are now wealthy families all around the UK still indirectly enjoying the proceeds of slavery where it has been passed on to them. Dr Draper said: “There was a feeding frenzy around the compensation.” A John Austin, for instance, owned 415 slaves, and got compensation of £20,511, a sum worth nearly £17m today. And there were many who received far more.

    Academics from UCL, including Dr Draper, spent three years drawing together 46,000 records of compensation given to British slave-owners into an internet database to be launched for public use on Wednesday. But he emphasised that the claims set to be unveiled were not just from rich families but included many “very ordinary men and women” and covered the entire spectrum of society.

    Dr Draper added that the database’s findings may have implications for the “reparations debate”. Barbados is currently leading the way in calling for reparations from former colonial powers for the injustices suffered by slaves and their families.

    Among those revealed to have benefited from slavery are ancestors of the Prime Minister, David Cameron, former minister Douglas Hogg, authors Graham Greene and George Orwell, poet Elizabeth Barrett Browning, and the new chairman of the Arts Council, Peter Bazalgette. Other prominent names which feature in the records include scions of one of the nation’s oldest banking families, the Barings, and the second Earl of Harewood, Henry Lascelles, an ancestor of the Queen’s cousin. Some families used the money to invest in the railways and other aspects of the industrial revolution; others bought or maintained their country houses, and some used the money for philanthropy. George Orwell’s great-grandfather, Charles Blair, received £4,442, equal to £3m today, for the 218 slaves he owned.

    The British government paid out £20m to compensate some 3,000 families that owned slaves for the loss of their “property” when slave-ownership was abolished in Britain’s colonies in 1833. This figure represented a staggering 40 per cent of the Treasury’s annual spending budget and, in today’s terms, calculated as wage values, equates to around £16.5bn.

    A total of £10m went to slave-owning families in the Caribbean and Africa, while the other half went to absentee owners living in Britain. The biggest single payout went to James Blair (no relation to Orwell), an MP who had homes in Marylebone, central London, and Scotland. He was awarded £83,530, the equivalent of £65m today, for 1,598 slaves he owned on the plantation he had inherited in British Guyana.

    But this amount was dwarfed by the amount paid to John Gladstone, the father of 19th-century prime minister William Gladstone. He received £106,769 (modern equivalent £83m) for the 2,508 slaves he owned across nine plantations. His son, who served as prime minister four times during his 60-year career, was heavily involved in his father’s claim.

    Mr Cameron, too, is revealed to have slave owners in his family background on his father’s side. The compensation records show that General Sir James Duff, an army officer and MP for Banffshire in Scotland during the late 1700s, was Mr Cameron’s first cousin six times removed. Sir James, who was the son of one of Mr Cameron’s great-grand-uncle’s, the second Earl of Fife, was awarded £4,101, equal to more than £3m today, to compensate him for the 202 slaves he forfeited on the Grange Sugar Estate in Jamaica.

    Another illustrious political family that it appears still carries the name of a major slave owner is the Hogg dynasty, which includes the former cabinet minister Douglas Hogg. They are the descendants of Charles McGarel, a merchant who made a fortune from slave ownership. Between 1835 and 1837 he received £129,464, about £101m in today’s terms, for the 2,489 slaves he owned. McGarel later went on to bring his younger brother-in-law Quintin Hogg into his hugely successful sugar firm, which still used indentured labour on plantations in British Guyana established under slavery. And it was Quintin’s descendants that continued to keep the family name in the limelight, with both his son, Douglas McGarel Hogg, and his grandson, Quintin McGarel Hogg, becoming Lord Chancellor.

    Dr Draper said: “Seeing the names of the slave-owners repeated in 20th‑century family naming practices is a very stark reminder about where those families saw their origins being from. In this case I’m thinking about the Hogg family. To have two Lord Chancellors in Britain in the 20th century bearing the name of a slave-owner from British Guiana, who went penniless to British Guyana, came back a very wealthy man and contributed to the formation of this political dynasty, which incorporated his name into their children in recognition – it seems to me to be an illuminating story and a potent example.”

    Mr Hogg refused to comment yesterday, saying he “didn’t know anything about it”. Mr Cameron declined to comment after a request was made to the No 10 press office.

    Another demonstration of the extent to which slavery links stretch into modern Britain is Evelyn Bazalgette, the uncle of one of the giants of Victorian engineering, Sir Joseph Bazalgette and ancestor of Arts Council boss Sir Peter Bazalgette. He was paid £7,352 (£5.7m in today’s money) for 420 slaves from two estates in Jamaica. Sir Peter said yesterday: “It had always been rumoured that his father had some interests in the Caribbean and I suspect Evelyn inherited that. So I heard rumours but this confirms it, and guess it’s the sort of thing wealthy people on the make did in the 1800s. He could have put his money elsewhere but regrettably he put it in the Caribbean.”

    The TV chef Ainsley Harriott, who had slave-owners in his family on his grandfather’s side, said yesterday he was shocked by the amount paid out by the government to the slave-owners. “You would think the government would have given at least some money to the freed slaves who need to find homes and start new lives,” he said. “It seems a bit barbaric. It’s like the rich protecting the rich.”

    The database is available from Wednesday at: ucl.ac.uk/lbs.

    Cruel trade

    Slavery on an industrial scale was a major source of the wealth of the British empire, being the exploitation upon which the West Indies sugar trade and cotton crop in North America was based. Those who made money from it were not only the slave-owners, but also the investors in those who transported Africans to enslavement. In the century to 1810, British ships carried about three million to a life of forced labour.

    Campaigning against slavery began in the late 18th century as revulsion against the trade spread. This led, first, to the abolition of the trade in slaves, which came into law in 1808, and then, some 26 years later, to the Act of Parliament that would emancipate slaves. This legislation made provision for the staggering levels of compensation for slave-owners, but gave the former slaves not a penny in reparation.

    More than that, it said that only children under six would be immediately free; the rest being regarded as “apprentices” who would, in exchange for free board and lodging, have to work for their “owners” 40 and a half hours for nothing until 1840. Several large disturbances meant that the deadline was brought forward and so, in 1838, 700,000 slaves in the West Indies, 40,000 in South Africa and 20,000 in Mauritius were finally liberated.”


  19. @Sargeant

    It is all connected.

    It is about the BU household applying our best judgement.


  20. Neville Duncan from UWI was on a sabattical at the University of Florida,Gainsville during the early 80s when I visited on an Ag. assignment…….nice place.


  21. Miller

    Hahahaha…….ah gotcha now…….yuh done know nuff cyan qualify.

    I am quite happy without jumping on any bandwagons.

    Yuh think we can get back some of the money paid to those those Niger delta Kings by the English King as recompense for depriving them of making money by capturing and selling their kith and kin as slaves?

  22. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    That nasty speech David Cameron gave in Jamaica and then offered to build prisons to lock up the descendants of slaves, will haunt him forever.

    As one commenter said…they act like they dont have to pay.

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    200 days ago
    shbkynn73
    “Racist has no shame being the descendants of racist who held African people slaves. You take all the crimes these whites committed against the planet’s people, especially the Africans, how and when will they pay for the crimes they have committed on the planet. They act like they will not have to pay. They are the worse criminals on the planet, then call the Africans criminals. Whites have murdered more people on the planet than all the other people on the planet combine.
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    389 days ago
    VM
    Very good article. It is extraordinary that David Cameron not only went to Jamaica and told the Jamaicans to ‘move on’ from the history of the slave trade and British ownership of slaves on the island and many islands in the Caribbean, but he had the temerity to announce his intention : that the purpose of his visit was to fund the building of a new prison in Jamaica! This, in his eyes, was Britain’s wonderful contribution to international development in Jamaica.
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    430 days ago
    patkehoe
    Your comments are shameful and dismissive. Enslaving people is not a ‘bygone’. Would you like to be enslaved? I think the descendants of slaves should receive reparations, if not directly, the societies should be compensated for the outrages of enslavement forced on over 20 million people.”

  23. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent…why dont you go over to Niger and speak to them…they just sent 4 American soldiers home in body bags…

    …. better yet, why dont you send the british over there to see what they can tief again..

  24. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Yall think this is a joke….so ya completeky missed when the pendalum swung.

  25. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “In the century to 1810, British ships carried about three million to a life of forced labour.”

    Keep that in the back of yall ignorant, backward heads…you detractors…

    ….forced labor = the Africans never agreed to be slaves……

    ……theft of labor = forced labor = thiefing even back then was a crime = british thieves.


  26. Miller

    Always an interesting read…….especially from the middle of pg 126….some snippets.

    “From 1699 throughout to the nineteenth century Bonny became the most important center for the overseas trade in slaves……”

    “The varying importance of the different states in the nineteenth century in terms of the slave trade is shown by by the efforts the british made to sign treaties to abolish the trade and to enforce abolition”

    “Compensation for the loss of trade to the value of $2000-$10,000 a year were agreed to be paid to the rulers”

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwie3rnxi_3WAhXHJiYKHT16AnUQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.library.wisc.edu%2FAfricanStudies%2FEFacs%2FLovejoy%2Freference%2Fafricanstudies.lovejoy.ejalagoa.pdf&usg=AOvVaw2cnhCsVWS_xxBrrVTUcTvz

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Finally found the story on the Kenyan Mau Mau reparations, UK initially refused to pay, then did…

    Beckles et al hav hired the same lawyers who represented the Kenyans, they can keep their stinking, fake apologies.

    The pressure is mounting significantly on UK and Europe.

    A slave market in Atlanta, Georgia (photo via)

    “Britain formally put an end to its slave trade in 1807, but it took another three decades for the Empire to free its last slaves in the Caribbean. By then, Britain had shipped around 3.4 million Africans – mostly via Liverpool, then a gilded, prolific slave port – over the Atlantic Ocean into a life of grim, inescapable servitude.

    When Britain finally admitted the error in its ways, it had to pay. In 1838, the government gathered £20 million (a staggering 40 percent of its expenditure, and up to tens of billions at today’s rates) to use as payouts to thousands of pissed-off slave owners. The slaves got nothing. Now, some 175 years later, the Caribbean states where so many slaves were sent want that money back.

    In July, members of the Caribbean Community and Common Market (CARICOM), an alliance of Caribbean states, announced that they would seek financial compensation from their former colonial overlords: Britain, France and the Netherlands. Earlier this week, in a small, beige conference room in Kingston, Jamaica, CARICOM representatives met to reiterate their resolve and outline a game plan. They intend to file lawsuits in British, French and Dutch courts – and then, if that doesn’t do the trick, bring their case to the International Court of Justice. Evoking “the spirit of Mandela”, Sir Hillary Beckles – historian and author of Britain’s Black Debt: Reparations for Caribbean Slavery and Native Genocide – explained, “There are vestiges of slavery that have certainly slowed our progress as a people.”

    This is not the first time that far-away descendants of slaves have talked about suing far-away descendants of slave owners. For decades, the demand for sweeping – perhaps global order shattering – reparations has been building in Africa, America and the Caribbean. With zero success thus far, this newest case appears doomed from the get-go. But there is cause for optimism: CARICOM has hired an esteemed British law firm, Leigh, Day & Co, to serve as legal counsel. That’s the same firm that just represented a group of Kenyans in a successful and historic compensation suit against Britain over the use of torture by British colonial officers in the 1950s. Nobody thought the Kenyans stood a chance. And Britain refused to cooperate, until – in June – it did, issuing its first-ever formal apology for colonial crimes.

    On Tuesday, a spokesperson from Britain’s Foreign Office sent VICE a short statement on the CARICOM case: “Slavery was and is abhorrent… The UK unreservedly condemns slavery and is committed to eliminating it.” But – crucially – they “do not see reparations as the answer”.

    In July, at a meeting in Trinidad, leaders from 14 CARICOM nations agreed to wage a joint legal war against the economic beneficiaries of slavery. “Apology… is wholly insufficient. We have to have appropriate recompense,” Ralph Gonsalves, prime minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, scoffed in an interview with Associated Press. “Look,” he would later protest, “the Germans paid the Jews!”

    Baldwin Spencer (in the FBI cap), prime minister of Antigua and Barbuda (Photo via)

    At the summit, Prime Minister Baldwin Spencer of Antigua and Barbuda led the charge: “We know that our constant search and struggle for development resources is linked directly to the historical inability of our nations to accumulate wealth from the efforts of our peoples during slavery and colonialism,” he explained. And so reparations money would not be doled out to individual ancestors, but instead used for development. Those gathered created a joint CARICOM Reparations Committee. And each member-state agreed to form a National Reparations Committee “to document the effects of European genocide”.

    In September, CARICOM held a Regional Reparations Summit in St Vincent. Bunny Wailer played. Caribbean leaders discussed the varied legacy of slavery; set a schedule for future meetings; discussed a proposal to introduce reparations history into Caribbean school curricula; and agreed to establish committee Facebook pages.

    On Tuesday, the Reparations Committee held a press conference before a relatively thin crowd at the University of the West Indies in Kingston, Jamaica. Representatives identified “broad aspects of the Caribbean condition” that, they say, are direct results of the slavery era. These include poor public health, low levels of education, “scientific and technological backwardness” and “cultural deprivation”.

    It’s not hard to see where CARICOM are coming from. British lawyer Richard Steyn explained that to make their case legally viable they’d have to focus on the negative impacts of slavery that are visible today, rather than the immense suffering of long-deceased slaves. Assuming that Britain, France and the Netherlands refuse to foot the bill, CARICOM will appeal to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD) – through which disputes can be placed before the International Court of Justice (ICJ). Lawyers say that a legal case before the ICJ, which adjudicates disputes between nations, could start as early as next year.

    Britain will surely argue that it is not liable for the wrongs of its colonial forebears. And that too much time has passed. And that the Caribbean already receives reparations in the form of development aid. The issue of an apology will be prickly. Formal apologies can leave countries vulnerable to law suits – so leaders, when pressed to lament, opt for tempered language. In 2006, then British Prime Minister Tony Blair expressed “deep sorrow” for Britain’s role in the slave trade. But he wouldn’t say, “I’m sorry.”

    “The Slave Trade” by Auguste Francois Biard (Photo via)

    In 2001, the UN sponsored a “World Conference against Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia and Related Intolerance” in Durban, South Africa. The issue of reparations – for the slave trade, for colonialism and for post-colonial injustice – was quickly raised. Enoch Kavinele, then Vice-President of Zambia, announced: “We have come to Durban to liberate ourselves from the historical injustices of slavery and servitude.”

    There were, of course, detractors. Then President of Senegal Abdoulaye Wade noted that if descendants of former slave owners were held legally liable for slavery, he too might have to cough up, since his own ancestors had owned slaves. Wade dismissed the reparations effort as “absurd”.

    A decade earlier, Africa had got the ball rolling. The Organisation of African Unity (succeeded by the African Union) met in Nigeria in June 1992 to swear in a 12 person-strong “Group of Eminent Persons” to champion the reparations cause. The group’s chair, Nigerian businessman Chief Bashorun MKO Abiola, was reportedly inspired by a conversation he had with a Jewish businessman about the Holocaust. A year later, a “Pan-African Conference on Reparations” was held in Abuja. But efforts to secure “capital transfer and debt cancellation” floundered.

    Unified action in the Caribbean was slower coming, but a grassroots push has been building for several decades. Prime Minister Gonsalves has said that CARICOM takes inspiration from reparations claims made by Native Americans, Maoris in Australia and Jews in Europe. Rastafarians were early advocates of reparations and now fight for inclusion at CARICOM summits. At Tuesday’s press conference, a representative from the Rastafari Youth Initiative took the mic to issue a rambling diatribe against “evil Western scientific experiments” and “trips to the moon”, which he argues are funded with “reparations money”.

    President Obama at a meeting with CARICOM (Photo via)

    It’s true that this campaign is different from past movements; it’s more judicious in practice, more tempered in tone and backed by an excellent legal team. But like in Africa, previous Caribbean efforts have amounted to little. In 2003, Haitian President Jean Betrand Aristide announced that France owed Haiti for the 90 million gold francs (today, £13 billion) that Haiti was made to pay France on independence. In response, the French president shrugged. And that’s true of leaders the world over – including in the United States, where, in 2008, President Barack Obama said he did not support paying reparations to slave descendants.

    Critics bill CARICOM’s new push as a futile endeavour, at best. They rightly point out that where there are successful reparations cases, they usually involve direct survivors – and crimes that were committed after the nations involved signed on to international human rights conventions.

    “Good luck,” panned Dr Howard-Hassmann when I asked him about the CARICOM case. “I can’t see them getting anywhere on this… You can’t just take [legal] rules that came into effect in the 19th century and back-pedal them to the 17th, 18th, early 19th centuries.” Besides, “they have also had 50 odd years of independent rule. Britain could just say, ‘Well, look at your own decisions over the last 50 years. You are sovereign nations, what have you done?’”

    Questions loom: how will CARICOM calculate exactly how much Europe benefitted from the slave trade – and how much the Caribbean lost? Its lawyers have announced their intention “to obtain solid and reliable qualitative and quantitative evidence” on this. But that is a Sisyphean task if ever there was one. “Usually when something like this happens,” Howard-Hassmann muses, “I want to know to know whose interests are really involved. Why would they invest time in this?”

    Lately, there has been some internal bristling. The Bahamas, for instance, boasts vocal critics of CARICOM, who have put the country’s Minister of Foreign Affairs on the defensive. “This is not some crazy cockamamie scheme,” he insisted in an October statement; it’s “a teachable moment.” In July, a group called the Pan-African Reparations Coalition (PARCOE) wrote a letter to CARICOM, expressing dismay at “the top-down approach” being taken by the coalition. PARCOE accused CARICOM of failing to engage its citizens and its diasporas in the reparations issue, and suggested that CARICOM might sell out for too little. It also accused Leigh, Day & Co lawyers of hatching “a well orchestrated imperialist swindle” and demanded that black Caribbean lawyers be brought on board.

    When I spoke to Esther Stanford of PARCOE UK, she argued that “reparations is as much about the battle of ideas and ideologies” as it is about money – and she faults the governments involved for not working with civil society groups to raise “reparations consciousness”. Stanford (“It’s not an African name; it’s an enslaved person’s name that I carry to this day”) is a lawyer and reparations activist who is currently completing a PhD in the history of the reparations movement. She has called CARICOM’s effort “far too limited, far too myopic”.

    Already, CARICOM lawyers are hedging their bets. In a briefing note on “Legal Mechanisms for Redress for Slavery”, its lawyers noted that an unsuccessful legal outcome would still “obviously generate a great deal of public interest and attention within a relatively short timeframe” and thus “provide a platform upon which a political settlement might be premised”. In other words, the effort could become a bargaining chip. Weighing legal options, the lawyers dismissed mechanisms that “are likely to generate very little publicity” or take too long.

    When asked about the possibility of heralding a new, post-reparations world order – in which financial recompense is made, and colonial-era borders are blurred – lawyer Martyn Day just sighs: “When we started the Mau Mau case, nobody gave us a chance. But here we are… This is the first step along the way.” He is hoping that his clients, and the European nations from whom they demand comeuppance, can arrive at an “amicable solution”.

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  28. Who were the lawyers hired by the Kenyans?

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “It’s not hard to see where CARICOM are coming from. British lawyer Richard Steyn explained that to make their case legally viable they’d have to focus on the negative impacts of slavery that are visible today, rather than the immense suffering of long-deceased slaves.

    Assuming that Britain, France and the Netherlands refuse to foot the bill, CARICOM will appeal to the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (CERD) – through which disputes can be placed before the International Court of Justice (ICJ). Lawyers say that a legal case before the ICJ, which adjudicates disputes between nations, could start as early as next year.”

    That right there is the foundation….modern day slavery exists because of the slave trade in the Caribbean, racism still exists because of the slave trade, discrimination against the majority population on the island still exists…..and all the myriad social and psychological problems manifesting in the descendants of slaves…because of the slave trade.

    And all that exposure and naming and shaming of former slave owners…none stop and for decades into the future…

    Well let’s just say am so happy none of my ancestors owned slaves, practiced, or practices racism, the key to taking these savages down.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Hal…read the article, the names are in the article…it gives you a better understanding of how it will unfold from demand to refusal to international court…etc.


  31. 555dubstreet October 18, 2017 at 6:05 AM #
    Whites are still racist scum.

    The epitome of Racism right there!

    555 exactly why you are an abject FAILURE, your very low capacity for genuine thought.


  32. Is this the Martyn Day who……..


  33. WW,
    Go after the Rich white families who made their money from Slavery and stop sinning your soul by casting a large net that is supposedly for all Whites.

    The Granville Sharpes of this world are White and whether you like it or not it makes sense not to alienate people without just cause.

  34. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    “Well let’s just say am so happy none of my ancestors owned slaves, practiced, or practices racism, the key to taking these savages down”

    What level of arrogance is needed to ensure oneself of such a wide range of behaviours this many generations on? Or does it just make you feel better?

  35. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    You tell us…….they successfully won the Mau Mau lawsuit because he and them obviously know what they are doing, I dont know why Caribbean lawyers dont just let him do his thing, they can be present at the ICJ hearings if it gets that far, but to go fking around like they do in the Caribbean all the time and at this time is instant doom…..and would not be tolerated by british lawyers for which this would be landmark decision and set a precedent against all slavery in the future…worldwide.

    Caribbean lawyers need to sit this one out and keep their asses quiet…their credibility and track records are horrible worldwide, reputation is crap.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    MoneyB…who gives a shit about the granville sharpes of this world…white are not…aint they have to die just like everyone else…show me one that can live forever. …..regardless how much paper they got, no one needs them to survive on this earth, so can ya 18th century mentality.

    …..the reparations movement is going after the european establishment…as it should.

    I got a list that wont cost them paper money, but they still have to return everything they stole…it’s the principle ….detractors cannot understand that, but who cares.

    Anyway, they have gone to far, no turning back, so stop crying in ya detractor suits, you and Vincent…lol

  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    No Northern…I am one hundred percent positive and can afford to be arrogant…400 years was just recently…..not 4000.

    Criminals like David Cameron’s ancestry are more arrogant…..offering to build a prison in Jamaica for the descendants of slaves…I did not hear you call him arrogant.


  38. @Miller etc.
    The case for Reparations is even made stronger when the continuous rape of the black woman is taken into account.
    ++++++++
    To illustrate that point……….

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/10/19/missouri-v-celia-a-slave-she-killed-the-white-master-raping-her-then-claimed-self-defense/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_retropolis-1030am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.71709d154d9e#comments

  39. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    WW
    I would call him arrogant and ignorant. But Cameron wasn’t posting to the blog,


  40. WW the Profs and Pols should be worried about this:

    One of the world’s most powerful political and economic unions is warning that Barbados – along with the rest of the region – has a lot more than just the economy to worry about.
    The European Union (EU) has identified a poor justice system and rule of law that is left wanting, as well as inequality and brain drain, as issues countries in the region must address in order to progress.

    And while making it clear she did not intend to dictate to Caribbean leaders what their priorities should be, EU Ambassador to Barbados and the Eastern Caribbean Daniela Tramacere told a recent Barbados Chamber of Commerce and Industry function regional leaders must not ignore these areas of concern.

    “These are countries which also have, not all of them, but many of them, serious limitation or shortcomings in governance; sometimes poor rule of law [and] poor criminal justice systems. This is widely known . . . and then human rights and protection for human rights, which is not particularly elating. I am thinking of gender and domestic violence and discrimination against minorities,” Tramacere said.

    The European diplomat sought to distance herself from those very charges, telling the function at the Lloyd Erskine Sandiford Centre that fingers were not being pointed at anyone in particular, but that she was simply “listing the concerns that are stressed everyday in the press, so I am not saying anything new”.

    Tramacere also said key drivers of sustainable growth must include “effective, efficient, fair and transparent tax systems and the fight against fraud and illicit financial flows.
    “In a nutshell, sound public finance management is a key element of good governance and a key basis for an effective and resilient public sector, which we need. This also requires stronger action to improve the policy and regulatory framework, as well as the business climate. This is fundamental for the business sector,” she said.

    The EU official added that the region also had to contend with climate change as well as a number of global sanctions, including de-risking “and other types of blacklisting”, which make it even more difficult for Caribbean governments to adequately focus their resources on tackling economic and social challenges.

    However, she promised that the union, which promotes greater social, political and economic harmony among the nations of western Europe, “fully recognize the vulnerability of the Caribbean countries, and for this reason . . . we, the European Union, remain the biggest donor in the Caribbean”, and that millions of dollars in support would continue to be allocated to the region.

    During her presentation, Tramacere also gave the assurance that despite the fact that Britain was leaving the EU in 2019, the Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) to create a free trade area between the EU and the
    African, Caribbean and Pacific states would not be affected.

    “We know that given the relationship between the UK and the Caribbean, especially Barbados, we know that many of you are very concerned about the UK leaving the European Union and what happens to the EPA. Well, nothing happens to the EPA. I can guarantee you that the EPA is there to stay with the 27 European states instead of the 28,” she said.


  41. MB

    You seem to be able to understand the ignorance of others…….what has other locations of slavery got to do with reparations for BIM or the Caribbean?

  42. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    @MB
    wtf does she know? rubbish.
    Send she back to base in T&T, or home to Italy.
    Nearly as bad as Marla D, though she is now living in Bim.

  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    In Portland Oregon…bajan whites would be beaten to death and chased out of Oregon, so would the likes of Vincent…..still in 2017, they would be treated no differently to any black person…

    http://ow.ly/qE6i30fZV9l

  44. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Northern……you should have called Cameron arrogant and ignorant back then when he did it, like most of us did….and not just because I called you out on it.

    MoneyB…that’s stale news from a day or 2 ago, no one cares, she is only exposing what BU and other blogs been exposing for a decade and less…where were you…,she is late.


  45. Hurry WW! Grab de $$$$$$$$ real soon!

    OUR FORECAST: The European Union will not survive. It will disintegrate. This will serve as a second blow to Japan, one of Europe’s biggest trading partners.

    Phase 4 — From 2020-2022, when this crisis comes to America, and as the United States pays the price for the largest orgy of debt in more than 5,000 years of human history. The US has liabilities over US$ 100TRILLION and counting!

    Mek sure the paper wunna receive is not toilet paper!lol


  46. WW who are BU?

    What solutions has BU convinced the Corrupt ones to employ?

    EU is more important!

  47. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    That Post article and others like it clearly shows the evil that can be found in the hearts of many whites….

    Someone clearly has to remind Vincent, that the people who washed ashore on indigenous Black and Indian lands in US…did so from Europe and UK….they were also a big part of the slave trade with Barbados as the transhipment point and clearing house for slaves….

    …what affected slaves in the Caribbean negatively also affected those in the US…many have relatives from those days between the Caribbean and US….the stinking slave codes that destroyed millions of black lives everywhere, particularly in US….originated in Barbados….slaves were routinely moved around from country to country and island to island ripping families apart…… it’s all intricately entwined……

    ….so when you start up with ya uppity self trying to discount a connection, think again.

    Since the civil war days reparations were being talked about in US…someone will eventually make a gigantic push into a world court of justice eventually.

    20/20: Americans Debate Reparations for Slavery
    By ABC NEWS
    March 23
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    There’s no disputing that Americans of African descent suffered centuries of enslavement. What’s far less certain, however, is what kind of debt is owed to the descendants of those slaves.

    Students on several college campuses are up in arms over an ad placed in campus newspapers this week by conservative activist David Horowitz. The ad denounces the suggestion that the United States should compensate its African-American citizens for the injustices suffered by slaves.

    The protests — and Horowitz’s ad — are just the latest signs of the simmering national debate over slave reparations.

    Crusade in the Courts

    A group of influential lawyers and scholars called the Reparations Coordinating Committee has focused on the institutions it says have profited from slavery. Led by civil-rights activist Randall Robinson, it plans to bring massive lawsuits against the government and major corporations.

    “The principal income mechanism for the United States during the years of slavery was cotton. It made us a powerful country,” says Robinson. “The people who produced the cotton were never paid.”

    Robinson won’t specify the group’s targets, but some companies have already acknowledged their role in slavery.

    The Hartford Courant newspaper, for instance, apologized last year for running ads for the sale and capture of slaves.

    Aetna Insurance has issued a statement apologizing for insuring slaves as the personal property. The company’s formal statement concludes: “No further actions are required.”

    Robinson disagrees: “An apology is not the end of the matter, an apology is the beginning of the matter… It’s not good enough to say, ‘Yes, we did it, and we’re sorry.”

  48. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    MoneyB…why are you stuck on paper…if the reparations movement is stuck on paper too, too bad for them, but since the lawsuit has not reached the ICJ yet, I think they said next year, it can still be tweaked to make more sensible, worthwhile and costly demands, devoid of paper money….which is useless in such lawsuits.

  49. NorthernObserver Avatar
    NorthernObserver

    WW
    That is a dull comment, considering my first post to BU was at approx the same time (BHL sale) period that Cameron made his remarks in J’ca. I don’t even recall the thread which covered it, though I am confident there likely was one.

    My wonderment was at your historical certainty, which you replied you were 100% certain. End of story.

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