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Nelson Statue Located In Heroes Square Barbados

“…As a symbol of white supremacy and slavery it was meant to send a message. But it also represented an excessive and brutal abuse of parliamentary power…” – Sir Hilary Beckles on the 1813 erection of the statue of Lord Nelson in Heroes Square, Bridgetown.

Readers of a certain age may well recall the Barbadian saying from one or two generations ago, usually expressed in the vernacular, “He or she goin’ ha’ to show me the ball that shoot Nelson”. As I recall it, it was uttered in the form of a threat, implying that there would be hell to pay if the absent object of the admonition did not achieve a task that I imagined many thought impossible or at least impractical, by giving a satisfactory excuse for their perceived indiscretion. As I have recently discovered however, the very ball that shot Admiral Nelson still does in fact exist, even though it probably remains as inaccessible as once thought.

According to the Royal Collection trust website – royalcollection.org.uk>-, a single lead shot or musket ball, about 15mm in diameter and weighing about 22 grammes, mounted with some remnants of gold lace from Admiral Nelson’s uniform lies beneath glass in a hinged silver locket with a gilt metal rope work border and suspension loop and forms part of the royal collection. The family of Dr William Beatty, the surgeon who removed it from the fatal wound after the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, gifted it to Queen Victoria in 1842.

The recent initiatives in the US to remove historical monuments and place names from buildings that memorialize the Confederacy might have contributed to a local self-examination in that regard and once again caused us to reconsider the incongruous and prominent siting of the statue of Lord Nelson in what has been renamed Heroes Square. This discourse, as those relating to a capital punishment, the corporal punishment of children, the buggery laws, is prone to erupt periodically, to fret a fitful hour in the public domain and then disappear without any concrete action being taken by officialdom. It is as if the national conversation is enough in itself, a therapy for local public ennui.

The most recent attempt to reintroduce debate on this matter came last Sunday with the publication in the Barbados Advocate, (and during the week in another section of the print press), of a closely reasoned and cogently argued letter penned by Sir Hilary Beckles, Vice Chancellor of the University of the West Indies, under the caption, “Why Nelson must fall”. Will this counterblast prove to be the local ball that shot Nelson?

In his letter, Sir Hilary makes the point that while generally nations that claim their ideological roots in the democratic struggles of the working class have opposed publicly revering persons and their accomplices known to have committed crimes against humanity, and while their governments seek to avoid using their considerable moral and legal state power to normalize the acceptance of such crimes within the community of victims, Barbados may be considered deviant or a pariah in this regard, given the central prominence in the public square of the monument the of Lord Nelson who he deems a “vile racist white supremacist who despised black people and dedicated his political and military life to the cause of protecting Britain’s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetime”. He asserts further that this “blunt brutality of state power” as he sees it, is considered criminal in some quarters.

For him, the continued presence of the statue is “a persistent violent imposition upon the mind of every right-thinking democratic citizen and he turns on its head the familiar justificatory canard that English tourists will stop coming to Barbados to Barbados in the numbers we expect if the statue is removed.

Sir Hilary argues to the contrary that our English tourists are mostly educated and informed people who would feel more relaxed in Barbados if we appear “more dignified and less bowed”.

Unsurprisingly, as it is here with most matters that relate to the intellect solely and not to scurrilous gossip, to hints of scandal or to partisan political issues, the subsequent populist response has been underwhelming to say the least. To my best knowledge, the issue was not broached on either of the daily talk-shows during the past week, there has been as yet no column or letter to the Editor of either print newspaper on the subject, neither of the two historians whose names he mentioned in the letter has responded, and a perusal of some of the published individual comments to the letter on the other newspaper’s blog evidences a largely popular lack of concern about the issue.

One commentator agrees that the statue should not be there, but also argues that given “the many problems which are chocking (sic) Barbados, now is not the time for talking about its removal. Another queries rhetorically whether Nelson was not part of our history and if yes, why are we trying to erase history? For him or her, we would be more “constructive and productive” if we were to focus on the pressing issues. And of course, there is the not unexpected uninformed comment that Sir Hilary had absolutely no problem with accepting a knighthood “based upon the same English imperial honours system which rewarded Nelson for his accomplishments”. The writer further expresses the hope that on the same day that Nelson is removed, that Sir Hilary Beckles will “renounce and return his knighthood to the appropriate authorities”. This newspaper adverted to this regrettable confusion in a recent editorial, a confusion wrought primarily by the odd insistence on titling one of our highest national honours after a middling English honorific, even if in a different and local Order.

Some of this populist thinking mirrors that in the US, where some argue that the Confederate monuments are “a reminder of what the country had to go through to become whole again” and that it is important to save these monuments for future generations to see and learn about them …” Others ask, “Why are we looking back? Why are they wanting to remove our history? Isn’t this what the Taliban and ISIS have done? This is not a race war. It is about securing our country’s history as it is…”

To be continued…


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271 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “…The Ball That Shot Nelson””

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lol…Pacha, I don’t mind Chadster trying to convince me, I get it all the time, but from genuinely good looking men, it’s their minds I love to peep into….and well, we know Chadster dont we.

    Next he will be telling me he got blonde hair and green years.


  2. Well Well

    We can’t understand why a ‘man’, as purported, will get on the internet and tell another real man how handsome this first man believes himself to be, unless bulling is contemplated.

    Be careful! Be careful! That sounds like ‘love’ talk to us. Don’t let Chad inveigle you to see things his way. LOL

  3. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lol….Pacha..don’t worry, this is all Chadster will get from me, this is his kryptonite…his, John’s and Vincent’s

    “Chinese Scientist Proves The First Inhabitants Of China Were Black
    For many years Black historians and Afrocentrists have said that the first inhabitants of China were black Africans.

    “The first inhabitants of China seem also to have been the Negritos. Unmixed Negroes with no connection with Africa still live in Southern China”

    (J.A. Rogers, Sex And Race, Volume 1)

    The Negroid races peopled at some time all the South of India, Indo-China and China. The South of Indo-China actually has now pure Negritos as the Semangs and mixed as the Malays and the Sakais.”

    ( H. Imbert, “Les Negritos de la Chine”).

    “Even the sacred Manchu dynasty shows this Negro strain. The lower part of the face of the Emperor Pu-yi of Manchukuo, direct descendant of the Manchu rulers of China, is most distinctly Negroid. Chinese chroniclers report that a Negro Empire existed in the South of China at the dawn of that country’s history.

    ( Professor Chang Hsing-Lang , “The importation of Negro Slaves to China under the Tang Dynasty A.D. 618-907)

    “There is evidence of substantial populations of Blacks in early China. Archaeological studies have located a black substratum in the earliest periods of Chinese history, and reports of major kingdom ruled by Blacks are frequently in Chinese documents.”

    (Kwang-Chih Chang, The Archaeology of Ancient China, (Yale University Press) and Irwin Graham, Africans Abroad (Columbia University Press).

    But after hundreds of years of the worldwide spread of the doctrine of white superiority and the inferiority of black Africans and their descendants. This notion was poo, pooed by white scientists and others and even by some blacks.

    But in 2005, a Chinese DNA specialist, Jin Li, leading a team of Chinese and other scientists, proved through DNA tests that indeed the first inhabitants of China were black Africans.

    Li said he was trying to prove that the Chinese evolved from homo erectus independently of all other humans. He collected DNA samples from 165 different ethnic groups and over 12000 samples in China and Asia to test his theory.

    Li said he was taught through China’s education system that there was something special about Chinese. And because he was Chinese, he was hoping to prove that the Chinese developed independently of all other humans.

    But surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise!

    Li’s team focused on a single genetic marker that appeared about 80,000 years ago in Africa. Anyone carrying that marker would have recent African ancestors and could not be descended from the more ancient Homo Erectus.

    Li and his team found that early humans belonged to different species but modern humans descended from the East Africans species.

    Li Hui, a scientist on Li’s team, said, that 100,000 years ago groups of humans started leaving Africa moving through South and Southeast Asia into China, and that 65 branches of the Chinese groups studied carry similar DNA mutations as the people of Southeast Asia.

    Jin Li said “we did not see even one single individual that could be considered as a descendant of the homo erectus in China, rather, everybody was a descendant of our ancestors from Africa.”

    Li was asked how he as a Chinese felt about what he found.

    He said “after I saw the evidence generated in my laboratory. I think we should all be happy with that. Because after all, modern humans from different parts of the world are not so different from each other and we are very close relatives.” (Amen Brother!)

    Li’s team was composed of an international group of scientist from China, Russia, India, Brazil and other nations. This was a 5 year project to study the geographic and genealogical routes tracing the spread and settlements of ancient and modern humans.

    Now I know there are still many people and probably some of you reading this hub who would be horrified, upset, disgusted, in disbelief etc, etc, if you found that you had any genetic connection to a black person.

    And I can feel your pain, because at one time in American history, as a result of all of the negative racial propaganda published about blacks to justify slavery for 400 years.

    Many black people didn’t want to be black either.

    Right up until the civil rights movement, the “I’m black and I’m proud” and the “Black Is Beautiful” movements.

    Many black Americans were happy to tout that they were part Indian. part white or part any other ethnic group other than just being only black.

    Many black men and women straighten their hair and used skin lighting creams to make themselves look more white than black.
    http://vveasey.hubpages.com/hub/Chinese-Scientist-Prove-The-First-Inhabitants-Of-China-Were-Black


  4. Well Well

    All the first peoples everywhere on earth were Afrikan peoples.

    And that was the case for hundreds of thousands of years, some writers say millions of years before other started to appear.

    Whereas White people only appeared 30 to 50 thousand years ago, at best.

    Recently in Brazil, we found phenotypically Afrikan settlements carbon dated at 56 thousand years ago.

    This is true of Russia, China, Alaska, the Americas, everywhere.

    Some scholars, on the fringe, even postulate that you will find Afrikan peoples in other worlds as well.

  5. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Yep….Pacha..the bones keep popping up in Germany, thousands of years old..African bones, now some are saying that Western Europe, is really a part of West Africa, well ya know the tiefing europeans are not above that…

    There is a movement for all black people to identify themselves as African, just as Garvey envisioned, the psycholgy in that is, when you identify as black only, you play into the euro centric narrative of being a slave, still enslaved….mere property, but to identify as African has a more powerful connotation. ..more freedom, more sense of self…

    The one thing most bajans hate more than the truth and reality ….is identifying as African….they much rather their slave designation…the brainwash and mindwash were total.


  6. Remember. Pacha, I know where to find you.


  7. Niède Guidon is a Brazilian archaeologist who was born on the 12 March 1933 in Jaú, in the state of São Paulo, Brazil. She has won international recognition and support for her struggle to protect Brazil’s rich archaeological heritage. Since the late 20th century, she has excavated hundreds of prehistoric sites in Piauí, Brazil. Her dating of findings indicates that human settlement PRECEDED THE EARLIEST KNOW IN NORTH AMERICA BY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF YEARS, which has generated controversy. In addition, she has theorized that SOME OF THE EARLY ANCIENT PEOPLES MAY HAVE ARRIVED FROM AFRICA BY BOAT, RATHER THAN OVER THE LAND BRIDGE FROM NORTHEAST ASIA.
    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ni%C3%A8de_Guidon

    A calypsonian wrote “Columbus lied” or maybe he was deeply mistaken, since the evidence is coming in that African peoples were living in Brazil 25,000 years ago. In other words the “new world” had long been settled by African people.


  8. Serra da Capivara National Park
    http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/606
    The area houses one of the most important archaeological sites in the Americas containing evidence and artefacts that have forced a sweeping re-evaluation of the fundamental traditional theories underpinning the origins of human settlement in the Americas.
    Over 300 archaeological sites have been found within the park, the majority consisting of rock and wall paintings dating from 50,000-30,000 years Before Present. Many of the numerous rock shelters in the Serra da Capivara National Park are decorated with rock paintings, some more than 25,000 years old. The analyses and dating of the evidence and artefacts found in the Serra da Capivara National Park serve to confirm the millennial presence of human beings on the American continent and the importance of the heritage. The ensemble of archaeological sites contains dating evidence that has thoroughly revolutionized classical theories regarding the entry route into the Americas by human populations along the Bering Strait. According to studies, the area encompassing the Serra da Capivara National Park was occupied by hunters and gatherers, followed by ceramic-farming societies. Discoveries at the Boqueirão da Pedra Furada archaeological site suggest that human beings may have settled the region as far back as 50,000 years ago, while the oldest remaining archaeological site with surviving rock art dates back 10,530 years Before Present. In the light of these new findings, the region represents one of the most significant archaeological sites in the world and the property is an outstanding testimony to one of the oldest human communities of South America.
    Source: http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/606

    Columbus may have arrived only a teeny bit late, only about 50,000 years after African peoples came to what we now call the Americas.


  9. With all of this information White people do not want history to start before 6000 years ago otherwise all their nonsense will be compromised. The Adam and Eve propaganda and all springing therefrom.

    Even in Kemet where we have sites, objects, carbon dated to tens of thousands of years, in their warped minds they have to be less than 6000 years old.

    6000 years ago is when everything was created. The earth is still flat, for them.

  10. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “Columbus may have arrived only a teeny bit late, only about 50,000 years after African peoples came to what we now call the Americas.”

    AFRICANS had already built, populated and civilized the US thousands of years before Columbus and his savages arrived, the only illegals in the US are europeans.


  11. The archaeological narrative quickly runs out of steam.

    How many millions of years back are you trying to go?

    Why not just try and understand “these past 300 years”?

  12. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    African life and existence did not start 300 years ago and we already understand the european savages who will like everyone to believe it did….

    We are all above and beyond that, you are welcome to die in your vat of 300 year old lies, deceit, savagery and crimes…you live in 300 year old darkness and evil, many of us dont….we can see the good and light that existed thousands of year before that….those visions were shut off to you and your ilk in punishment and will remain that way forever…Karma

    ….. ….so those of us who are blessed with light, our intelligence tells us we are the greatest civilization out of Africa and will repeat that greatness.


  13. Yea ww you guys are brilliant.the greatest civilization didn’t I read in the paper the other day that one of you intelligentsia working in a bank got fired for stealing pens.


  14. It is very hard for many black people to come to terms with the fact that we are arguably the ugliest, poorest and least accomplished of all the major branches of humanity.

    They constantly deny the facts, delude themselves and usually end up defeated and unhappy.

    Facts are not always pleasant. But learn to face them.


  15. Incidentally, WW&C

    Pachamama is not a black man, and David is one of the inferior mixed-race types (the mullato) Marcus Garvey disparaged as inferior.

    You yourself used to pursue and seek the physical comforts of white men. So all this noisy talk about the importance of the black race rings false.

  16. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lawson….ya want to see real thieves, look at Harper and his entourage, matters still in court….

    …..trump and his thievery, lies and crookery .., justice department got warrants and subpoenas going…

    …..May, Cameron, Blair, Brown….all world class thieves and con artists….then ya can talk about pilfering pens.

    Chadster….does Hal the idiot know ya are calling him ugly. ..

    Ya may want to check ya spotted skin condition and ask ya self what is wrong and how did you get like that….and what made ya mama seek the comforts of black men whom you cannot stand and hate with all ya miserable life today. Was it a toss up or lucky dip to see who ya black daddy is…does that explain ya hatred and bitterness to black men, which in this case is misdirected, and should be directed iinstead at ya loose legs mama.

    But ya should be thanking the many black men for ya existence though.

  17. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And while yall are trying to continue the degradation and miseducation of the African descendants, and continue to relishing in the fallacy, idiocy and non existence of a white supremacy, ya may want to throw up a prayer for the 69,000 Dominicans of all stripes who have been negatively impacted by Hurricanr Maria, since she could give a shit about who is white and think they superior. …and did not bother to ask any of them.

    Ya never know.., you may very well be next target, with a bitch or bastard of a hurricane or earthquake showing you what superior really looks like……..so pull ya pockets to contribute to Dominica, as my family and I are doing.

    ….if ya live in Barbados…you wont stand a chance following a direct hit and show of real superiority.


  18. I would not give a dime to Dominica or Barbuda relief funds until I see a radical re-thinking of building construction in the Caribbean.

    Mandatory building codes, ruthlessly enforced, requiring concrete slab roofs are absolutely necessary. No more flimsy construction. Reinforced concrete all the way.

    Capital punishment for engineers and freelancers who flout the regulations. Demolition of all non-conforming stductures.

  19. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Of course with your constricted way of thinking you wont contribute.

    Although I do agree that concrete roofs throughout the Caribbean is the future and should have been in the last 25 years….

    ……it’s not like they dont know they got hurricane season for 5 months each and every year.

    Shitheads for structural engineers like Grenville should have known this and advised governments on concrete roofing decades ago, instead of remaining silent and waiting for the call of blown of roofs which means more money and work for them.

    Hopefully, St. Martin or whoever got Grenville now, keeps him, he never even advocated for concrete roofing in Barbados. …

    ……with his god this and god that religious nonsense.

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Chad99999 September 20, 2017 at 6:28 AM
    “It is very hard for many black people to come to terms with the fact that we are arguably the ugliest, poorest and least accomplished of all the major branches of humanity.
    They constantly deny the facts, delude themselves and usually end up defeated and unhappy.
    Facts are not always pleasant. But learn to face them.”

    Isn’t it passing strange that we would live to see the BU day when the oddest of couples (Chad the 5 of 9 beauty & Hal Austin the ugliest of black beasts would find miraculously perfect alignment in a bed of love and mutual respect and end up as the weirdest of bedfellows intimately up in arms against the ravenously raging Pachamama.

    So there must be some truth in the saying that your ‘enemy’s enemy is your friend’.
    How could an African ugly as Austin find it morally fitting to find ‘amoral’ rest in the loving arms of a pure-bred supreme grand wizard of the ‘klan’ of BU Anonymice?

    Is this the same supremely “Augustinian” academic achiever of high-flying colours who finds great joy in flaunting his superior UK credentials (and his ability to speak and write in perfect rhyme and harmony the Queen’s English even when he was growing up stupid under the Union Jack) not only against those underachievers and life long-failures like Pacha, Bushie and the miller but also in exposing his new-found lover Chad’s bogus résumé (or should that be resume?) listing his overly stellar achievements in the workplace of Academia while attending the gauntlet of Ivy colleges in the grand ole US of A?

    Wonders never cease! We ought to believe in miracles. We really need help from Above to understand this new triangle of morality involving Hal, Chad and Righteousness. Desiderata, indeed!


  21. So what are you saying miller …ya gotta stop putting eaves on houses..or flying a flag in a hurricane isnt to smart


  22. Jethro,
    Again, plse write simply, as you would talk to a friend. Trying to write using so-called big words exposes your lack of any formal learning in English grammar. It is a pity because I am sure you have a lot to teach me. Unfortunately I cannot understand you because you struggle with the language.
    You also keep building a straw man (that I am an academic achiever, which again I am not, have never been and am not talented enough to be.) I just want to learn philosophy from the great philosophers in this blog.
    Do you also believe that Logic is not part of the Marxian philosophy?
    Seriously, the reason why we are caught in a spiralling trap of decline is that we cannot discuss ideas, people get bored. It is much better to be vulgar, foul-mouthed, personal, savage in what passes as a discussion.
    Just look at every single recent topic in this blog: what often starts out as an exchange of ideas soon shifts in to personal abuse from the same verbal bullies.
    Recently people have raised important issues of the way mortgage lenders behave; of how Sagicor is offering a so-called new investment product over ten to 25 years that urgently needs the attention of the regulator; of the log-jam in the Registrar’s department; of the incompetence of the Listings officer; the minister of Labour raised the issue of the future of work, which our top notch trade unionists have avoided; we have had discussions about the sudden rise of offshore medical schools – the list is endless.
    Go back to the discussion streams and you will see the same anonymous people using the same language and making the same allegations against their perceived enemies.
    This is what it means to be old in Barbados with nothing to occupy their time.

  23. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    lol…Chadster is so filled with self hatred he should know that level of hatred, animosity and negativity toward African descendants will ultimately cause him to stroke out.

  24. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    a guess Hal….Lady Chadster`s Lover more than likely believes he is of stern, british white stock….these wannabes are frightening..


  25. @chad99999

    Agree with the part of your comment which support a strategic approach to the rebuild that must come in the affected islands

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Hal Austin September 20, 2017 at 10:23 AM

    Thanks for the ‘useful’ advice, Dear Hal.

    We will endeavour (sorry, try) to write the incoming-King’s English as crystal clear as is transparently possible so that simpletons of every hue and origins can understand.

    This would ensure that wankers, wonkers and schoolmarms like you are not given the ad hominem ammunition to attack the BU anonmyice seeking relentlessly to flush them out of their academic and intellectually-dark hiding holes.

    However, let us cut to the chase and instead return the ‘gratuitous’ favour of offering advice.
    Why don’t you do the copiously copied ‘British’ loyal thing and put your UK money where your Bajan mouth is?

    Here is a piece of the regurgitated crap you spilled recently in a pique of arm-chair criticism passing for informed analysis of the challenges facing the Bajan financial environment:
    “Where are our investment actuaries, our fund managers, our investment analysts, our financial journalists?”

    They are simply hiding away in the UK in the phantom brain(s) of Hal Austin.

    Now here is where you can be of great value to your country Barbados which expects every Bajan including those like you hiding ‘anonymously’ in the Bajan-Limey Diaspora to ‘do His duty’.

    Why not return to your place where your umbilical cord (navel string in the language for the simpletons) and sort out those ‘technical’ shortcomings in financial management, regulatory failures, and moral wrongs prevailing in your abandoned home before you are returned to the good Christian god who gave you many talents but for which you have nothing to show in return other than a mouth of arrogantly chronic diarrhea (or should that be diarrhoea, for you)?

    It seems you do get continuous rounds of ejaculatory pleasure from reading the risibly runny crap written by an anonymous(e) posing as the miller from the Back Ivy.

    Continue to support the miller by providing easy fodder for the laughing mill.

    Someday, you might just get a Bitcoin credit to your account from an anonymous debtor to mitigate the loss incurred when you were swindled by the time-sharing scammer in Barbados but whose constant recall by your ‘vulnerable’ wife brings only pure pleasure of gigolo encounter of the larger kind forcing you into regular bouts of phallic jealousy and impotent depression.

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Just saw a comment on facebook…

    “Unto thrir 3rd, 4th and 40th generations, sins of their fathers.”

    Mary Turner 1918 Eight Months Pregnant Mobs lynched Mary Turner on May 17, 1918 in Lowndes County. Georgia because she vowed to have those responsible for killing her husband arrested.

    Her husband was arrested in connection with the shooting and killing Hampton Smith, a white farmer for whom the couple had worked, and wounding his wife. Sidney Johnson. a Black, apparently killed Smith because he was tired of the farmer’s abuse.

    Unable to find Johnson. the killers lynched eight other Blacks Including Hayes Turner and his wife Mary. The mob hanged Mary by her feet, poured gasoline and oil on her and set fire to her body. One white man sliced her open and Mrs. Turner’s baby tumbled to the ground with a “little cry” and the mob stomped the baby to death and sprayed bullets into Mary Turner. (NAACP: Thirty Years of Lynching in the U.S. 1889-1918 ). . . ”

    https://henriettavintondavis.wordpress.com/2008/08/01/black-women-who-were-lynched-in-america/


  28. Miller

    Thanks for trying

    But it would be impossible for the slave in england to understand anything you could say unless you could somehow reverse engineer your well developed faculties to those of a 5 year old.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    These types of link just highlights how much darkness many of you including John, Chadster, Vincent etc…continue to walk in, you will never see light.


  30. heard this oldie today, reminded me of the BU Bloggerati

    Sitting on this barstool talking like a damn fool
    Got the twelve o’clock news blues
    And I’ve given up hope on the afternoon soaps
    And a bottle of cold brew
    Is it any wonder I’m not crazy? Is it any wonder I’m sane at all
    Well I’m so tired of losing- I got nothing to do and all day to do it
    I go out cruisin’ but I’ve no place to go and all night to get there
    Is it any wonder I’m not a criminal?
    Is it any wonder I’m not in jail?
    Is it any wonder I’ve got

    Too much time on my hands, it’s ticking away with my sanity
    I’ve got too much time on my hands, it’s hard to believe such a calamity
    I’ve got too much time on my hands and it’s ticking away from me
    Too much time on my hands, too much time on my hands
    Too much time on my hands

    Well, I’m a jet fuel genius – I can solve the world’s problems
    Without even trying
    I have dozens of friends and the fun never ends
    That is, as long as I’m buying
    Is it any wonder I’m not the president
    (He’s not the president)
    Is it any wonder I’m null and void?
    Is it any wonder I’ve got

    Too much time on my hands, it’s ticking away at my sanity
    I’ve got too much time on my hands, it’s hard to believe such a calamity
    I’ve got too much time on my hands and it’s ticking away from me
    Too much time on my hands, too much time on my hands
    Too much time on my hands

  31. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Lol….Pacha, the slave minded is a very hollow mind.


  32. What kind of moron thinks posting facebook links is being real clever
    June
    Vince

    John

    Kibir amlak
    Qedamawi ras tafari
    Qedamawi Iyesus Kristos
    Lebdama mabrak isad
    Tenayistilgn

    Kings of kings, Lords of lords
    Conquering lion of the tribe of Judah
    Elect of God, Mighty God
    Everliving God, Earth’s Rightul Ruler

    Blessed be the man that walk’eth not

    In the counsel of the ungodly
    Nor stand’eth in the ways of sinners
    Nor sitt’eth in the seat of the scornful
    For I delight is in the law of the Lord God, Selassie I

    In his laws do I meditate day and night
    Therefore I must be like a tree
    Planted by the rivers of water
    And bring’eth forth fruit in due season
    I locks also shall not wither
    And whatsoever I do’eth shall prosper
    The weak heart are not so, oh no!

    They are like the chaff that the wind drive’th away
    Therefore no weak heart shall stand in the judgment
    Nor no sinners in the congregation of the righteous
    For the Lord God so high
    That he knoweth the way of the righteous

    And know that the way of the weak heart
    Shall crumble, paralyze and burn
    Jah Rastafari!
    But he delight in earthquake, brimstone and fiyah
    To kill, crum

    Jah! Mighty God! Everliving God!
    And do away with all weakheart
    Conception to my creation continually
    And let our righteousness cover this earth
    As the waters cover the sea Isaiah 11:9

    They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain,
    For the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD,
    As the waters cover the sea.
    He reigns from that Iwa until this Iwa
    Hailful I, so high and so mighty

    Jah Rasafari!
    I am the Earth Rightful Ruler

  33. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    I know Vincent dont think I will open that darkness and curse, so many of them are losing their jobs and have to hide to practice their evil…they never thought that day will come, but there is more.


  34. To readers of this site……my last 4 submissions above were meant to show what drives the thinking of individuals who may or may not be the progeny of the transatlantic slave trade but are driven for whatever reason to advise us Caribbean Pelau.

    From the 1830s one can trace a divergence in the social construct between the North American and Caribbean slave progeny which almost 200 years later leads to a total lack of understanding between the two groups that started life from the same base.

    Their awfull treatment,lack of education and second class status up north are all factors that drive their envious contributions on this site whose objective is to destabilise this region.Unfortunately these 5th columnist have found worthy treacherous sycophants locally to trumpet their cause.

    Bim and the Caribbean is not perfect and we are aware of it and working to solve it on our own.

  35. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent. ..stop lying, yall want to keep the majority population as second class citizens to continue tiefing their tax dollars and pension money, always with begging bowls looking for subsidies…everyone is on to yall….go and look for real jobs.

    As soon as the majority can get rid of their corrupt ministers, politicians and public officials that yall slither up to with ya fake smiles and greed to bribe…ya will see how much better it gets for everyone on the island, including those who are not corrupt, in the minority community.


  36. Vincent Haynes

    You refer to the “lack of education” of blacks up north, but as usual, this is misleading.

    The black population of North America is the best educated black population to be found anywhere in the world.

    For example, how many PhDs in physics has CARICOM produced in my lifetime? Since 1973, the United States alone has produced 420 African-American PhDs in physics. The US has a black population of roughly 46 million, or approximately seven times the CARICOM total (6.5 million, excluding Haiti). Has CARICOM produced 60 PhDs in physics since 1973? Of course not.

    We could pick other examples and the results would be the same. The Caribbean cannot match the accomplishments of black Americans.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster…they could have many more Ph.Ds on the island and in the Caribbean if they would all cease and desist from stagnating the majority populations, and that stagnation comes from the black governments all the way down because the ministers are only interested in accumulating mindless, miseducated yardfowls just useful enough to pimp, carry news, follow them blindly and vote at election time.

    Black Americans passed that mindless stage decades ago and realized education is key to progress, development and productivity. …and as shitty as the American system can be, free enterprise is still available to anyone, opportunities can be accessed by anyone as long as you are driven and focused…….. and top level education is always available, free of brainwash..

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    @ John September 20, 2017 at 5:14 AM
    “The archaeological narrative quickly runs out of steam.
    How many millions of years back are you trying to go?
    Why not just try and understand “these past 300 years”?”

    There can be no meaningful understanding of those past 300 years unless there is a truthful understanding of the past 6,000.

    There must be a catharsis of the black man’s mind through a thorough dose of truth and reconciliation before there is any setting of goals for the future improvement of the sorry state of the black race.

    The TRUTH of his origins and past must be first told and appreciated before any ‘black’ progress can be made.

    So let us start with you Sir John, the ardent apologist for the almost 400 years of chattel and mental slavery of black people in Barbados.

    Do you genuinely believe in the stories of Adam & Eve and their descendants Noah & Family as told in the Judeo-Christian book of mythology?

    And if so, do you wisely go along with the argument widely prosecuted by the right-wing fundamentalist branch of that Judeo-Christian tree of religious camouflage that the planet Earth and every flora and fauna on it were created in six days and is less than 10,000 solar years of existence?

    Judging from your response, we would soon find out if you are genuinely contrite for the acts of your Quaker ancestors or you want to continue in the delusion that the Quakers were most beneficent to slaves and solely instrumental in their manumission.

    BTW, where is our batty friend Zoe these days? You could do with some help on this one. For sure you will be struggling to figure out which comes first in this Adam & Eve chicken and egg conundrum.

    The white-man’s ‘cock’ or the black-woman’s egg(s)?

  39. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    John, Vincent and their ilk will be best served if black people in Barbados continue to be miseducated, backward and carry the belief system that their lives started as slaves 400 years ago, that they are mindless children unable to think for themselves, cannit prigress further than field slaves and that generation after generation, they will need a few halfassed minorities to think for them, while unknowing to them tiefing everything they got. ….

    …..that is John’s 3:16


  40. Big tune in addis ababa

    Don’t ever count on the pussy hole Vincent’s of this world to protect you from being captured in bondage


  41. @VincentHaynes, re “Their awfull treatment,lack of education and second class status up north are all factors that drive their envious contributions on this site whose objective is to destabilise this region.Unfortunately these 5th columnist have found worthy treacherous sycophants locally to trumpet their cause…..Bim and the Caribbean is not perfect and we are aware of it and working to solve it on our own.”

    I say this with the utmost respect for your right to your opinion but that statement is the epitome of intellectual hogwash.

    As a seconder, Chad’s remarks are correct in absolute, relational or any other ways you slice the matter of intelligence and Blacks.

    But more important the entire cadre of those from the northern climes who post here identify as expats who lived most of their formative years in Bdos. That clearly suggests that their parents or grands were also likely raised in Bim thus it would be FUNDAMENTALLY erroneous to suggest that we have some ‘personality complex’ about abdominal talking locals and the issues.

    It is surely fair to say that the developmental experience of Blacks in the region was drastically different to those of our brethren in US but frankly that is a two edged sword (and very sharp too).

    Foregoing any prolix on that debate let me simply state that all of my and your generation grew up with powerful Black role models as national leaders. That was a powerful positive. Not as pervasive in US.

    Yet, there were several – a mobaton, in Bajan parlance- who bestrode the entertainment, local politics, sports and civil rights stage…. there is absolutely no need to speak of the Shirley Chisoms of local US pols, is there….and definitely no need to mention other names. In that regard US Blacks out performed us exponentially.

    So you must be joking to come and make such an outlandish statement. This is a false debate and always has been when we make these contrived comparisons about Caribbean Blacks and those in the US. We have both done well in our own ways and no one can EVER factually dismiss or denigrate what was achieved by Blacks in US against herculean odds.

    You are generally much more studied than that…. are you being afflicted with the Johnny patty- cake intellectual brain fritz malaise!


  42. Correction…SHOULD READ: ” ‘personality complex’ about BAD TALKING locals and the issues.”

  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Vincent is more afflicted with desperation, both him and John see their gravy train of free subsidies heading off in the horizon if the corruption stops on the island and they cant use their begging bowls to tief from pensioners and taxpayers..,, and cannot get anymore free labor from those they steal it from because everyone’s eyes have been opened and most black bajans would be well on their way to becoming as highly educated as those to be found in the US….

    ……..that is all going on with those 2 parasites….they are desperste and deathly afraid.

  44. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    While selfish, greedy wannabes like Jihn and Vincent are trying to preserve white supremacy to tief from African descendants…the newest young adult generations sees it for what it is, a blight and a cursenon the world, but these old farts want to protect evil and darkness with their dying breaths…..shame on you termites and parasites.

    “17-YEAR-OLD TEENAGER SUES HIS PARENTS FOR BEING BORN WHITE
    By Native Pawnee On 17/09/2017 In Uncategorized Leave a comment
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    St-Louis, MO | A 17-year-old is undertaking one of the most controversial lawsuits of the history of the country as he is suing his own biological parents for being born white.

    Anthony Dwight, 17, claims he has suffered his whole life from the shame of being born white.
    “Isn’t there enough white people on this planet already? Haven’t we inflicted enough suffering, racism and oppression in this world?” he asked reporters.

    White guilt
    The young man’s lawyer, Robert Hoffman, claims his client has suffered severe psychological distress, symptoms of depression and suicidal tendencies because of what he called “the burden of white privilege.”

    “My client did not choose to live this kind of life. Why would he have to carry the burden of hundreds of years of slavery and racism all because his parents had the selfish desire to bring another white child in this world,” he told the judge.

    “Because of the level of psychological distress of my client, we ask that his parents pay for all necessary expenses to change his racial status, including skin coloring treatments,” he added.
    His lawyer argued in court that $20,000 is a low price to pay to positively change this young man’s life, considering the suicidal tendencies of his client and the “profound feeling of shame and despair” his client has faced since his birth.”

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