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Nelson Statue Located In Heroes Square Barbados

โ€œโ€ฆAs a symbol of white supremacy and slavery it was meant to send a message. But it also represented an excessive and brutal abuse of parliamentary powerโ€ฆโ€ – Sir Hilary Beckles on the 1813 erection of the statue of Lord Nelson in Heroes Square, Bridgetown.

Readers of a certain age may well recall the Barbadian saying from one or two generations ago, usually expressed in the vernacular, โ€œHe or she goinโ€™ haโ€™ to show me the ball that shoot Nelsonโ€. As I recall it, it was uttered in the form of a threat, implying that there would be hell to pay if the absent object of the admonition did not achieve a task that I imagined many thought impossible or at least impractical, by giving a satisfactory excuse for their perceived indiscretion. As I have recently discovered however, the very ball that shot Admiral Nelson still does in fact exist, even though it probably remains as inaccessible as once thought.

According to the Royal Collection trust website – royalcollection.org.uk>-, a single lead shot or musket ball, about 15mm in diameter and weighing about 22 grammes, mounted with some remnants of gold lace from Admiral Nelsonโ€™s uniform lies beneath glass in a hinged silver locket with a gilt metal rope work border and suspension loop and forms part of the royal collection. The family of Dr William Beatty, the surgeon who removed it from the fatal wound after the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805, gifted it to Queen Victoria in 1842.

The recent initiatives in the US to remove historical monuments and place names from buildings that memorialize the Confederacy might have contributed to a local self-examination in that regard and once again caused us to reconsider the incongruous and prominent siting of the statue of Lord Nelson in what has been renamed Heroes Square. This discourse, as those relating to a capital punishment, the corporal punishment of children, the buggery laws, is prone to erupt periodically, to fret a fitful hour in the public domain and then disappear without any concrete action being taken by officialdom. It is as if the national conversation is enough in itself, a therapy for local public ennui.

The most recent attempt to reintroduce debate on this matter came last Sunday with the publication in the Barbados Advocate, (and during the week in another section of the print press), of a closely reasoned and cogently argued letter penned by Sir Hilary Beckles, Vice Chancellor of the University of the West Indies, under the caption, โ€œWhy Nelson must fallโ€. Will this counterblast prove to be the local ball that shot Nelson?

In his letter, Sir Hilary makes the point that while generally nations that claim their ideological roots in the democratic struggles of the working class have opposed publicly revering persons and their accomplices known to have committed crimes against humanity, and while their governments seek to avoid using their considerable moral and legal state power to normalize the acceptance of such crimes within the community of victims, Barbados may be considered deviant or a pariah in this regard, given the central prominence in the public square of the monument the of Lord Nelson who he deems a โ€œvile racist white supremacist who despised black people and dedicated his political and military life to the cause of protecting Britainโ€™s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetimeโ€. He asserts further that this โ€œblunt brutality of state powerโ€ as he sees it, is considered criminal in some quarters.

For him, the continued presence of the statue is โ€œa persistent violent imposition upon the mind of every right-thinking democratic citizen and he turns on its head the familiar justificatory canard that English tourists will stop coming to Barbados to Barbados in the numbers we expect if the statue is removed.

Sir Hilary argues to the contrary that our English tourists are mostly educated and informed people who would feel more relaxed in Barbados if we appear โ€œmore dignified and less bowedโ€.

Unsurprisingly, as it is here with most matters that relate to the intellect solely and not to scurrilous gossip, to hints of scandal or to partisan political issues, the subsequent populist response has been underwhelming to say the least. To my best knowledge, the issue was not broached on either of the daily talk-shows during the past week, there has been as yet no column or letter to the Editor of either print newspaper on the subject, neither of the two historians whose names he mentioned in the letter has responded, and a perusal of some of the published individual comments to the letter on the other newspaperโ€™s blog evidences a largely popular lack of concern about the issue.

One commentator agrees that the statue should not be there, but also argues that given โ€œthe many problems which are chocking (sic) Barbados, now is not the time for talking about its removal. Another queries rhetorically whether Nelson was not part of our history and if yes, why are we trying to erase history? For him or her, we would be more โ€œconstructive and productiveโ€ if we were to focus on the pressing issues. And of course, there is the not unexpected uninformed comment that Sir Hilary had absolutely no problem with accepting a knighthood โ€œbased upon the same English imperial honours system which rewarded Nelson for his accomplishmentsโ€. The writer further expresses the hope that on the same day that Nelson is removed, that Sir Hilary Beckles will โ€œrenounce and return his knighthood to the appropriate authoritiesโ€. This newspaper adverted to this regrettable confusion in a recent editorial, a confusion wrought primarily by the odd insistence on titling one of our highest national honours after a middling English honorific, even if in a different and local Order.

Some of this populist thinking mirrors that in the US, where some argue that the Confederate monuments are โ€œa reminder of what the country had to go through to become whole againโ€ and that it is important to save these monuments for future generations to see and learn about them โ€ฆโ€ Others ask, โ€œWhy are we looking back? Why are they wanting to remove our history? Isnโ€™t this what the Taliban and ISIS have done? This is not a race war. It is about securing our countryโ€™s history as it isโ€ฆโ€

To be continuedโ€ฆ


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271 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – “…The Ball That Shot Nelson””


  1. Did you know that Nelson saved Africa from French invasion?

    True true fact, it is written on the statue!!!!

    He did it on August 1st.


  2. Miller

    well said.


  3. Vincent,
    Did Hilary Beckles go to St Andrew’s? And do British university award any cum laude degrees? Fiction, dear boy; fiction. If you do not know what you at e talking about, then make it up.

  4. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Does everyone just have full stomachs or just confused. ….Hal I understand, he is just Hal, as dim as a street light.

    Oh…he did it on August 1st….so enlightening, maybe if yall would stop being so desperate to justify evil actions, ya wont look so foolish.

    And the hanger on termite is just waiting for anything.

  5. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Chad. Your draws is showing, and it’s not only full of holes, but it’s really dirty and smelly.

    If telling black people to love themselves, be industrustrious, be united, be self-empowered, be entrepreneurial,…etc , if that is racism,then I am a proud racist.


  6. “I am not Black, I am human”

    https://youtu.be/Nd0f8MlY3mM

  7. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Hal Austin September 17, 2017 at 5:18 PM
    โ€œDid Hilary Beckles go to St Andrewโ€™s? And do British university award any cum laude degrees? Fiction, dear boy; fiction. If you do not know what you at e talking about, then make it up.โ€

    And that is why you should do your level best and stop reading the โ€˜comic strips produced by the miller!

    But what can we expect from poor Hal unable to delve below his depth of shallow superficiality?

    We leave you to the macho man who swindled your unsatisfied wife in the time-sharing scam which you found out after seeing her in bed with the same monster of a prick.

    Come on Hal, do you know nothing about innuendo and sarcasm as techniques of literature?
    We all other than you of course that Sir Hilary is not a graduate of St. Andrews but a Bajan Knight of Belleplaine St. Andrew.

    We all know that he, in true colonial fashion, attended the University of Hull, a fishing port and โ€˜gatewayโ€™ to white Western Europe.

    Why canโ€™t you comment on the double standards and hypocrisy of the man called Sir Hilary McDonald rather than totally concentrating while avidly reading the incoherent and clearly misunderstood ramblings of the mad miller?

    If only you had done a similar stint of study at that second tier university in Yorkshire instead of your โ€˜more-than-was-welcomedโ€™ overstay at the Polytechnic of North London you might just be able to simply follow the ramblings of the wandering miller.

    c.c. Vincent Haynes from a plantation in St. John Barbados.


  8. c.c. Vincent Haynes from a plantation in St. John Barbados.
    +++++++++++++++++

    I think he said Haggatts and that would be St. Andrew

    So it is Vincent who went to (and came from) St. Anfdrews

  9. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    “c.c. Vincent Haynes from a plantation in St. John Barbados.”

    hope it’s not the same one where they allegedly found 2 million in cocaine, 1/4 million dollar check….stolen range rover…car parts with guns…and the list seems endless..


  10. Britainโ€™s criminal possession of the 800, 000 enslaved Africans during his lifetime
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Think for a moment of the lands that comprised the British Empire in 1834.

    The Indian sub-continent

    Half a Continent, Canada

    A collection of miniscule islands, the largest of which was Jamaica

    Essequibo became British in 1796, Demerara and Berbice later, consider them to be “British Guyana”, BG.

    African slavery was practiced only in the miniscule islands and “British Guyana”, BG.

    I am going to lump BG with the Indian sub-continent India and half a continent Canada for reasons that will become clear.

    African Slavery was practiced in a miniscule part of the British Empire at emancipation.

    The Jewel in the Crown was … India.

    BG comes into play in 1796, when the slaves of Haiti have destroyed the economy (1791) and 40% of sugar imported into Europe, disappeared.

    Prices increased 3 fold.

    The British look to replace the output in BG and benefit from the dramatic increase in prices.

    They need land, and lots of it,

    Barbados is nothing!!

    BG is a purely profit making enterprise.

    India was a for profit enterprise.

    Our mistake is we keep thinking Barbados was the centre of the British Empire.

    I suggest Barbados was a Quaker enterprise, not for profit but to provide a retreat from religious persecution.

    Out of that experience, the abolition of slavery resulted.

    The more I think about it the more I see every square inch of Barbados as a World Heritage Site.

    … and were all the Quakers in Barbados pure as the driven snow ….NOOOOOOOOO …..!!

    But no one is.

    The profit making part of the British Empire subsidized the Caribbean!!

    Barbados is really very special in world history.


  11. Once India obtained independence in 1947, the British Empire was dead.

    The Commonwealth came into existence in 1949.

    We have benefitted from subsidized sugar prices.

    The miniscule islands were given their independence to do with as they liked.

    Fifty years on, here we are!!

    History does not change.

    Reparation talk are a waste of time.

    Just makes you miserable.

    Look forward with hope!!

  12. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Makes you miserable, since none of you minority termites should ever get another dime in sugar or any other subsides, let yall hangers on go out there and look for real work.


  13. Let us speak the truth:

    The only reason Nelson still there is because de white people in Barbados scared the weak blacks we have in parliament. It is de same very reason we are not a republic.

  14. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    And all the likes of John do is run around the cemetries digging up dead racist criminal people and tief money from the descendants of victims of the slave trade.

    The black governments need to grow some balls, put the progress of the majirity populstion and island above bribery and corruption with minorities and stop minorities from using the criminal past of their wicked, racist, slave trading ancestors to steal from present day descendants of these ancestors….

    Permanently cut off their gravy train of stealing from the black majority population…….


  15. William sometimes you can win the battle but lose the war. If you are trying to entice the african continent to your shores get rid of any vestiges of the past. But be prepared to lose a lot of people who find barbados expensive but will come because it feels is like home.. Its not surprising bajans hold a grudge since he was pickled in brandy and not rum but if you decide rather than keep spinning him and take him down please replace him with a certain female singers backside

  16. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    The black governments need to grow some balls, put the progress of the MAJORITY POPULATION and island above bribery and corruption with minorities and stop minorities from using the criminal past of their wicked, racist, slave trading ancestors to steal from present day descendants of these SLAVE ancestorsโ€ฆ.


  17. Its not surprising bajans hold a grudge since he was pickled in brandy and not rum but if you decide rather than keep spinning him and take him down please replace him with a certain female singers backside

    @Lawson, what the heck does this mean?


  18. @ Jeff
    Lawson is explaining that the only reason that most tourists come to Barbados is to relive their days of Empire and plantation life.
    If therefore we will not project this era with statues of Nelson and names like Trafalgar and QEH Hospital, Princess Margaret etc, the other alternative would be to make the vivacious, big-bumpered girls available for service….. In Lawson’s case, he can only look anyway – so a display of Rihanna’s would suffice.

    Unlike most BBBBBs, Lawson understands that tourism is no more than a socially accepted form of prostitution ….and as a customer, he is explaining what he is prepared to pay for…


  19. Another intellectual contribution from Bush Tea, informing us that tourism is just another form of prostitution – and I never thought of that. If most tourists come to relive their colonialist past, what do the others come for?
    Risible is a polite way of putting it. Fortunately, the Bush Teas of this world are only useful as voting fodder every four to five years.


  20. ”Another intellectual contribution from Bush Tea”
    @Hal,

    You can laugh at Bushie, but I have yet to see a more insightful position from you than many that he has input over the years.

    His most recent being very astute and in accordance with my own view of things (as I paraphrase what I see as his view) as to the ridiculous status of BBB’s living in a state of slavery repeatedly paying funds they earned, for what they paid for already, for such funds to be wasted by a few.

    He can be very astute.


  21. Miller&John

    Haggatts was where I spent my first years in Bim whilst attending Cawmere and imbibing from the Griots of St.Andrew,the same ones that would have informed the twistorian with the correct facts that he knowingly now disowns.

    My Bimmer family originates from St.John and I have lived there as well.


  22. A cold,rainy day in Bim just made for all old foggies to continue to right the historical wrongs done to Bim….

    We start by getting rid of all things pre 1966,including monuments,statues,buildings,cane,tourism,manufacturing and ourselves.

    Then lets understand that we are Blacks…………end of story.

    Viva Bim.


  23. It obviously doesn’t take much to set Pachamama off. He seems to be doing his best impression of Bernard Coard. Like many members of the Party, the impulse to commit murder is never far from the surface. Bring it on, Pacha. I’ll be happy to pistol-whip you with one hand tied behind my back.

    And let me repeat, Marcus Garvey was a racist. Throughout his career, he was involved in bitter squabbles with the NAACP because he denounced its leadership, notably W.E.B. DuBois, as inferior mixed-race Negroes. Garvey was obsessed with racial purity, and declared pure-blood Negroes superior to light-skinned blacks. He insisted on racial segregation (Africa for the Africans, Europe and North America for the Europeans), compared his own Negro Improvement Association to the Ku Klux Klan, and not only praised Adolf Hitler, but described him as a leader who had a great deal to teach the Black race.


  24. Marcus Garvey | Biography & Facts | Britannica.com
    https://www.britannica.com/biography/Marcus-Garvey
    Marcus Garvey: Biography of Marcus Garvey, the charismatic leader who … (he even approved of the white racist Ku Klux Klan because it sought to separate the ..


  25. Jeff Cumberbatch September 18, 2017 at 7:30 AM #
    Its not surprising bajans hold a grudge since he was pickled in brandy and not rum but if you decide rather than keep spinning him and take him down please replace him with a certain female singers backside
    @Lawson, what the heck does this mean?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    When he was dying, he asked to be buried in England.

    So, instead of being buried at sea immediately after the battle like everyone else, he was put in a cask of Brandy and preserved for the voyage home.

    He had a big funeral and his pickled remains are buried at Westminister Abbey.

    http://www.portcities.org.uk/london/server/show/ConNarrative.36/chapterId/373/The-state-funeral-of-Lord-Nelson-59-January-1806.html

    His ship, HMS Victory is on dry dock and is a regular tourist attraction for people from all over the world.

    Anyone can buy a ticket if they plan to go when next they visit the “Mother Country”.

    It has been highly recommended to me.

    Nelson was the first superstar.


  26. Didn’t we have a politician who went by the nick name “The Black Moses” … just like Marcus Garvey?


  27. Chad

    You are a empty headed stinking buller. Only such a buller could have such a twisted view of history.

    You know nothing of world history. Luckily for us, we do not have to wait on the likes of you to tell us about our histories.

    It was W E Dubois who held this view about Garvey. He saw Garvey as too Black, too far from the Whites, too close to a set of backward islands, too ‘unsophisticated’ to be the leader of Afrikan peoples worldwide, you brassbowl, c**t-hole.

    Dubois spent most of his life begging for integration. Garvey’s view was that the very nature of the White devil will NEVER allow genuine integration. History has proven him RIGHT. Only a low life jackass like you would want to integrate with your slave master.

    And indeed all the reputable Duboisian scholars including Cornel West, the late Tony Martin, the preeminent Duboisian scholar of all times, and many others argue persuasively that Dubois himself was infected with the superiority complex pervasive within the White racist American empire. Maybe presenting itself as a class formation issue.

    If you are a titularly Black non-person you would represent the fulfillment of the wicked aims of White people as articulated by your Louis Lynch.

    If you are White you should draw up in your corner of the world and await the final judgement of Pachamama.

    Why don’t you send your coordinates so that justice could be more speedily delivered.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Chadster got daddy issues, his daddy looks like Garvey, Jeff, Walter and I bet Hal too…lol

    Total and undeniable self hatred.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    New negros like Corner West are useless, Obama could do nothing right for him, he was so jealous and envious of him, always complaining, yet he himself can never be elected to anything higher than a university…

    I take it those were the same emotions of envy and jealousy oozing out of the useless pores of the house negro of that era DuBois against Garvey…….while Garvey was busy building an empire.

    Recently West was complaining about trump, ah bet the house negro voted for him and he does not now match his expectations of a white savior…, facebook cussed out West good and proper for the way he treated Obama, he has since crawled back into his white hole.

    There is no getting rid of the infected house negro…they are worse than bed bugs, a little stench of something awful…and they all come out to feed.


  30. Notice Pacha avoids addressing the points I have made about Garvey and racial purity.

    Pacha is always avoiding inconvenient facts. Instead, he tries to score debating points, and he is a reasonably competent propagandist. But his commentary is almost always inadequate to anyone with decent intellectual credentials.

    I believe the basic problem is the narrow education he received (apparently in the biological sciences) in the British system. He lacks a formal education in the organizing concepts of economics, sociology, anthropology, political science, law and the business disciplines, so he cannot think clearly about most of the broad-gauge issues discussed in this forum.

    That does not bother him in the least. He is a conceited fellow because he has been lucky enough to get several soft jobs in the Caribbean (and one in America). As his ego has grown in size. he has come to see Himself as a public intellectual. LoL.

  31. Bernard Codrington. Avatar
    Bernard Codrington.

    With all these balls that shot Nelson, I do not know which one is authentic , Time for a DNA test fellows. Lord havest mercy!!!!


  32. CHAD the asshole!

    The buller who sees himself as a chadian asshole knows nothing of us. We thought he was more interested in a pistol-whipping. In those circumstances we inquired about the coordinates for such a meeting, anywhere in the world.

    Anybody who, like you have many times, makes a blood libel against the Great Marcus Garvey will always be cussed by us. Has to be an enemy to the death.

    We will tell you about your mother’s private parts, we will cuss you in real time about being the quintessential White man’s lackey, a buller!

    And we shall not desist from doing such until you come to understand that the blackest peoples of earth are you father, are your mother. That a father’s correction is in order. And we shall administer such.

    That Afrikan peoples gave your beloved White people everything that they have. This was done while they lived in the caves of Europe. That this earth was owned by Afrikan peoples for hundreds of thousands of years before White people ‘made’.

    That the time for White domination of this earth is up.

    These devils which you love so much repaid Afrikan peoples by enslaving us. Enter karma!

    But you will, today, continue to blame the victims of this your White devil for our current condition. Only a buller will do that.

    We are no public intellectuals, as you presume. For that position would not allow us to engage in more forthright and practical ‘projects’.


  33. @ Chad
    Do yourself a big favour and desist from fighting with Pacha.
    The topic is above your pay grade.

    Garvey may have been a bit of a bigot, and may have been years ahead of his time – in understanding the true STATUS of blackness, but he COULD NOT BE a racist – by the very definition of the word.

    To be a racist. one needs to have control of the commanding social /military/ business systems – and to impose controls that restrict, and enhance, the rights and benefits respectively, of those under that control ….based on racial status.

    Under your emotional (Trump-esque) rants, Bushie would ALSO be also a racist …because the bushman happens to KNOW that BBE created mankind as BLACK beings – in his own image, …and that all other derivatives are the consequences of natural genealogical decay and entropy.

    If indeed Garvey just happened to know back then, what all current researchers now know after extensive research, that makes him a visionary – not a racist.
    It is not difficult to see how such vision as Garvey’s could be viewed in a world where Blacks were LEGALLY defined in the way that our “BU-John’ continues to propagate…


  34. Bush Tea

    No topic is above my pay grade, although this one may be above yours.

    Only the most contemptibly feeble minds are so mistaken as to believe that a man must have the power to enforce a racist ideology in order to be a racist. Racism is a constellation of ideas, and the ideas precede, and are more fundamental than any policies, procedures, or programs that they rise to.

    Either you are a monumental dunce, or you were badly mis-educated. To repair the damage, you might start with some basic philosophy courses in Logic, Metaphysics and Epistemology. I think you can get some accessible learning materials from the Open University in the UK. LoL.


  35. Bushie

    This non=person who calls himself CHAD could not possess a single brain cell.

    Maybe he can give you one example where what he would call reverse racism ever existed in all of time.

    Just one example.

  36. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    ….But his commentary is almost always inadequate to anyone with decent intellectual credentials…….

    and just who might that be..


  37. Well Well

    LOL

    Chad, this buller, is nobody to be engaged as such.

    He tries to talk about philosophy but could not even get the constituent dimensions right.

    Then he exposes his ignorance and includes logic, as philosophy. What a jackass!


  38. Incidentally, Pachamama

    I am a traditional Roman Catholic with an old-fashioned attitude to homosexuality. Never had a homosexual impulse or experience in my life. Proud to be 100% heterosexual.

    Now you, on the other hand, seem to have an unhealthy preoccupation with “bulling” when enraged. I wonder why.


  39. We’ve said before. only a buller could be as mentally perverted (twisted) as you.


  40. @chad99999 September 18, 2017 at 12:46 PM “I am a traditional Roman Catholic with an old-fashioned attitude to homosexuality”

    In light of what has been coming out about the behaviour of many traditional Roman Catholic priests, perhaps you should not have told us this. Because the best that we can say about so many of them is that they are highly confused about their gender identity and about their sexuality.


  41. Why do we stress about what an anonymous person writes?

  42. Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well @ Consequences Observing Blogger

    Pacha…wait until he is having one of his trumptard episodes and really gets going.

    highly confused is putting it mildly, try a bunch of mentally diseased pedophiles who live to rape little boys mainly..and those are just the ones who prefer little boys to little girls, all enabled and condoned by the blighted catholic church….

    every real intellectual knows this.

    whenever ya hear the frauds waxing religious, hide ya children, particularly the boys…they are truly frightening.

    http://bit.ly/2xgoFIA

    Australia: 4,444 children abused by priests 01:36
    (CNN)For more than three decades, the Catholic Church has been rocked by sex abuse scandals spanning the globe.

    And for decades, the church has been accused of protecting itself rather than the victims of child sexual abuse.
    Here are some major scandals and revelations involving the Catholic Church and allegations of abuse

    the curse of catholics can even be traced country by country…

    http://bit.ly/2xgoFIA

    his page documents Roman Catholic sex abuse cases by country. The Catholic sexual abuse scandal in Europe has been documented by cases in several dioceses in European nations. Investigation and widespread reporting were conducted in the early 21st century related to dioceses in the United States of America; several American dioceses were bankrupted by settlement of civil lawsuits from victims. A significant number of cases have also been reported in Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and countries in Europe, Latin America, Africa and Asia.[1]

    In 2001, lawsuits were filed in the United States and Ireland, alleging that some priests had sexually abused minors and that their superiors had conspired to conceal and otherwise abet their criminal misconduct.[2] In 2004, the John Jay report tabulated a total of 4,392 priests and deacons in the U.S. against whom allegations of sexual abuse had been made. The numbers of reported abuse allegations and court cases has increased worldwide since then.


  43. Simpleton

    I am not a Catholic priest. In any case, there are nearly half a million Catholic priests in the world. Hard to generalize about them based on cases that hit the newspapers.


  44. David (BU) – Why do we stress about what an anonymous person writes?

    I suggest to check the repulsive language while you are at it.


  45. LOL @ Chad
    Boss, ALL topics are above Bushie’s pay grade.
    The bushman just put forth the whacker in such cases …and let the nylon do the talking.

    Racism is a generally loose term, however serious debaters tend to use the term as it relates to DISCRIMINATION and PREJUDICE, rather than the dubious concept of ‘belief and feelings of superiority’.
    As an example, NO ONE on this blog exhibit more hints of superiority complex than you do…. …but that does not make you a ‘racist’.

    Real ‘racism’ is about discriminating – by legal means, vi et armis, or by some other means of force – against other persons – BASED ON THEIR RACIAL profile.
    Apartheid was the ultimate personification of the scourge.

    Your rantings notwithstanding, a little research and thought will verify the above if it is not intuitively evident.

  46. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger. Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger.

    Hal is still trolling I see.

    Chadster displays a superiority exterior as a front, thinking it impresses someone, anyone…..to hide his deepseated feelings of inferiority and self hatred.


  47. @chad99999 September 18, 2017 at 1:27 PM “there are nearly half a million Catholic priests in the world. Hard to generalize about them based on cases that hit the newspapers.”

    Imagine the cases that haven’t hit the newspapers, because the abused are still too intimidated to tell on Father So an So.


  48. I think the correct term is colourism, not racism!!

    We are all members of the human race

    Not possible to be racist except ….

    …. some seem to believe there are two thereby qualifying themselves to be named as racist!!

    … colourists too!!

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