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Submitted by BARBADOS INTEGRITY MOVEMENT (BIM)

It is with utmost humility that I write as the Political Leader of the Barbados Integrity Movement (BIM) and more importantly as Christian Believer to engage All Leaders in the Religious community together with their Congregants across the length and breadth of Barbados to stand up and be counted in this season of great distress and uncertainty for our people and country as a whole.

BIM recognizes that our beloved country is today facing the worse financial crisis in its history aided by what appears to be a severe lack of decisive management and a patriotic vision. Our National Anthem states that “God has been the people’s guide for past 300 years” but several of our current parliamentary leaders in themselves exude behaviors as though there is no respect for the “Almighty God” as is frequently demonstrated in their speech and actions. It is BIM’s goal therefore

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100 responses to “Open Letter to the Religious Community”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Pure rubbish….

  2. Violet Beckles CUP Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI Avatar
    Violet Beckles CUP Plantation Deeds from 1926-2017 land tax bills and no Deeds,BLPand DLP Massive land Fruad and PONZI

    You got to be out of your minds, Keep God out of the Fraud of Parties and the crimes,
    God Watching. Save it for CHURCH this is not Church,

    If you all cared about God and Church you would not be telling so many lies and covering up The Truth that have Barbados in this mess , More like you are dealing with the Devil.

    I know We telling Truth that you all dont want to hear about, the Massive Land Fraud and PONZI or you all would join or work with the CUP , Until then All can go to Hell.

  3. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s;and unto God the things that are God’s.

  4. vincent haynes Avatar
    vincent haynes

    Wuhloss…..agreeing with wwc and violet…..what a load of codswallop.

  5. David Avatar
    David

    Are some of us able to comprehend that Barbados has a large religious constituency and by engaging with them there is the possibility of being able to penetrate with a message? We live in a democracy and all views perspectives must contend. This is what defines freedom of expression.

  6. independent voice Avatar
    independent voice

    The church is the last of all places to find integrity! for the church has washed only the outside of their vessel while the inside is covered in filth. and grime
    There is nothing wrong with going about seeking the church support in political adventure but placing the church as the golden leader and standard bearer of morals is denying the truth

  7. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Maybe if they will all leave out the fantasy that is the church/religion and embrace reality….then they will all see a way forward, it will not happen as long as they continue to embrace the centuries old mindwash, we will see only regression…..all this centuries old man made crap has run it’s course.

  8. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    We already have charlatans Doctors of Divinity,or Divide -it -up, like Durant and Lowe high in the political arena , and where have they got us? A stone throw outside the doors of Hell.
    I still have a big problem with those lyrics in our National Anthem which you have quoted, about the Lord being the people’s guide for the past 300 years, when for more than half of that period , the ancestors of 95 % of us Barbadians were enslaved and considered lower in status to the precious Kentucky Mules and big breed Great House hounds. Looks like that part,and some others of the National Anthem could be sung with gusto, by the Williams’ Mayers, Challenors, Sealy’s, Piles and Goddards et al.

  9. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    David March 22, 2017 at 8:39 PM #
    A great majority of the worshipers in the mainline churches, Anglican, Moravian,etc are over 59 years of age, and quite a few are wheel chair bound and are supported by walking sticks,etc.
    This group of people ,according to one of the DLP’s chief spokesmen , Carson C Cadogan, has nothing to offer his ruling party. And that presumably, includes an “X”

  10. Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right - INRI Avatar
    Piece Uh De Rock Yeah Right – INRI

    Your point Honourable Blogmaster is valid re: the venue and it leverage.

    I am looking at it in light of the format of the document.

    Let me explain.

    I like many others am trying to gauge this B.I.M. ting.

    I have heard Grenville II and Lynette and well I was and am not impressed.

    De ole man looking for something to leverage and you understand what i mean.

    De DLP fellers out but I cant support Mugabe not with what de ole man know.

    So a feller looking.

    Dey do that BNTCL thing and jes like David Come Sing A Long dem ent even come back to look at dem submission which sats to me that (a) they dont have the HR to spread or (b) they are cut from the same sanctimonious cloth of Come Sing A Song or (c) they dont understand how internet campaigns are run.

    I would then query the length of a letter to the Religious Community that is 3 pages of rambling rose.

    BNTCL needed verbosity but this outreach to the Church, irrespective of its tentacles, it is not properly composed.

    Go through it and pick out the sentences that say “who, what, where why when and how” (de way mottley does construct all of her speeches using those words and that format dat meks people tink she brilliant.

    Can you find this easily?

    It is all over the place. They need a communications specialist.

  11. David Avatar
    David

    Until the third parties rollout a slate of candidates and begin to share key messages they will continue to struggle with traction.

    At this point if an election was be called tomorrow the BLP DLP remain thhe choices for the electorate.

  12. Tony Trotman Avatar
    Tony Trotman

    The letter mentions the “vast degradation in morality” and “churches must at this time consolidate to become the moral compass”. But, in practice, morals have always been subjective or convenient. For example, if Mr Jones stole a sugar cane from a sugar cane plantation (SCP). And Mr Smith told Mr Jones that he was wrong to do so and the Bible says stealing is wrong. Mr Jones would usually justify the theft of the sugar cane by replying that the SCP had plenty of sugar canes and it would not miss one or two sugar canes.

  13. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    The elephant in the room is not the Christian faith, but other religions, some of which are keen to keep a low profile until the time is right.
    I have said before that the New Barbadians are potentially the real danger and unless we are proactive we will find ourselves prisoners in our own home.
    It is a demographic thing. Young people who are now in their teens will be much older and more demanding in 20 years time. It is then that things will kick off.
    Unless we act now, we will find ourselves like Britain victims of our own liberal open door policies.

  14. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    I will continue to encourage participatory and deliberative democracy; however, given the contents of this letter, and other things now ascribed to BIM, there is no way that it can get my realistic support. BIM must do the same self-searching that it appears so condemnatory to claim against others. Long live the tenet of democracy and my love of country.

  15. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    George,

    Is patriotism now replacing reason? I have raised the falsity of deliberative democracy before. Majoritarianism is not democracy.

  16. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    @ Hal Austin

    I could not disagree with you more. Perhaps rather than chase the terms, a rereading of said terms to draw out intenet and meanings at inception would be helpful. But as usual, to each their own. Keep well.

  17. George C. Brathwaite Avatar
    George C. Brathwaite

    Hal, that should have been intent.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Looking at everything through the lenses of religion and politics is destructive, they may all want to try looking at life thriugh reality and get a much better perspective to move forward. .

    Religion and politictics have been other people’s fantasies and have worked for them for thousands of years…but it can work no more.

  19. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    in times like this we must turn to the church ……and dont forget your tithing

  20. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    I once bought a Methodist church from the Pentecostal people put in a staircase from a jewish synagogue to a third floor loft used to bring all my catholic girlfriends there for gymnastics so speaking as one of the damned now is not the time to turn to the church for advise except if it is how to run a business. Hire more cops ,hire more garbage men hire more farmers fire more politicians.

  21. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    Well Well, I agree with you. These people are still stuck in the past. Barbados is NOT:” today facing the worse financial crisis in its history aided by what appears to be a severe lack of decisive management and a patriotic vision. “…This is a lot of rubbish (as you say) led by a group who obviously believe there really is a physical “heaven”. They are not realists, and refuse to accept that people of today do not believe their “alternative facts
    “dont forget your tithing”. Why should one tithe? Another bunch of charlatans..Seventh day perhaps?

  22. lawson Avatar
    lawson

    Whether its Mormon or Israelite or whatever the church runs on donations call it what you want. This why your in trouble not seeing the forest for the trees, caught up in a word instead of the idea. You pay, I pay. just in case there is everlasting life even snake handlers have to donate a rattler or water moccasin.

  23. Artax Avatar
    Artax

    “Under this collaboration BIM will seek to deploy spiritual principals as its mandate for managing the affairs of the country and will advance every cause to work with the church to address the ills currently plaguing us as a people.”

    @ BIM

    Seeking “to deploy spiritual principals as its mandate for managing the affairs of the country and will advance every cause to work with the church to address the ills currently plaguing us as a people,” may be a “step” in the right direction, especially if one adheres to Christian values.

    However, you must take into CONSIDERATION and RESPECT the fact Barbados is a democracy and there are also many Barbadians who DO NOT BELIEVE in any religious sect. As such, they may interpret BIM’s suggestion as essentially promoting a dictatorship based specifically on YOUR religious beliefs, while trying to FORCE Christianity on them.

    Additionally, as it relates to your comment re: “Barbados was once known to produce the very best academic minds which were privy to have graced some of the most hallowed halls throughout the world.” “These persons were shaped in the dynamic of the understanding of the word of God and social responsibility (Love of Country and Fellowman) whilst in the pursuit of academic accomplishment.”

    You must bear in mind the education system has created a generation of “THINKERS” who are not prepared to READILY ACCEPT religion, WITHOUT QUESTION, as was done years ago by the older generation. Perhaps rather than blame society, you should ask where has the church gone wrong.

    Religion has undergone significant, dynamic changes as seen with religious men/women self appointing themselves as “prophet, apostle, bishop” and acquiring academic qualifications such as doctorates. The “meeting hall” has been replaced by multi-million dollar “mega churches” outfitted with the latest technology and equipment. Sermons of the “prosperity gospel” are now being preached, while encouraging the congregation, through fear, to tithe in hope of receiving riches.

    Prophet Apostle Senator Dr. David Durant, Errington Massiah, Guy Hewitt and Joseph Atherley are examples of reverends involved in politics.

    Recall a few years ago the goodly Durant told Barbadians Thompson would not die under his watch, as was spoken to him by God. We subsequently had to refer to Thompson as “the late prime minister.” Durant has also demonstrated that, for the past 9 years, he is prepared to place party ahead of Christianity, by going into the Senate to endorse lies told by his fellow politicians.

    Prior to the 2013 elections, PM Stuart told Barbadians the state would continue to fund tertiary level education and there would not be any retrenchment of public sector employees, which was endorsed by Durant, Hewitt and Massiah. However, a few months after the elections, there was a reversal of Stuart’s “promises” and Durant went to the Senate to endorse and justify those untruths.

    Ironically, DLP members David Estwick and Donville Inniss have been repeatedly making comments criticizing the “wrongs” committed by their party. DLP Senator Dr. David Durant remains silent.

    Under such circumstances, BIM will have a “hard job” trying to convince the skeptics and unbelievers.

  24. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    The only real problem with BIM’s letter is that it is addressed to a useless church that has long been compromised with brass bowlery.

    It is clearly too much to expect that BU regulars would appreciate any message that speaks to putting RIGHTEOUSNESS as a national priority, since most here are fully converted to the albino-centric dogma of materialism and self-centredness.

    The FACTS are, however, that we live in a spiritual realm, where laws that very few here understand, drive reality. Any move therefore, that seeks to respect and synchronise with these spiritual realities DESERVES serious consideration….. ESPECIALLY in an environment where NOTHING seems to be working according to the albino-centric methodology.

    BIM is therefore on a sound track to look BEYOND the materialistic greed that drives us brass bowls, but Bushie suspects that like all wisdom at this time, they are casting pearls at brass bowl swine.
    Of course it escapes us all that, as pointed out in the letter, back when our ‘ignorant’ parents respected such spiritual principles, we were seen to be ‘punching above our weight class’….. while now that we have PhDs coming out of our donkeys, we ain’t saying shiite….

  25. David Avatar
    David

    @Bush Tea

    Bim is trying to occupy a vacant public space and as you stated; rightly so there is no credible individual or entity currently anchoring this kind of narrative in Barbados,the Durants and Bairds do no count. What we have is cultural and ethical relativism.

  26. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    “However, you must take into CONSIDERATION and RESPECT the fact Barbados is a democracy and there are also many Barbadians who DO NOT BELIEVE in any religious sect. As such, they may interpret BIM’s suggestion as essentially promoting a dictatorship based specifically on YOUR religious beliefs, while trying to FORCE Christianity on them.”

    Art…and they would be right, I am yet to hear, meet or read of any religious leader who does not have a warped and twisted mind or a mind that is totally out of sync with reality.

    They all follow a script handed to them, none if them have original ideas that benefits majority black populations.

  27. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    That is why it is so destructive to try to marry religion and politics, instead of using reality on the ground to drive good governance and good intent, the BIM party should allow everyone to follow their individual religious dogma…… and focus instead on cleaning up the nasty mess created by DBLP parasites in the last 50 years.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    ……..instead they should be using reality on the ground to drive good governance and good intent, the BIM party should just allow everyone to follow their individual religious dogma…

  29. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ WW&C
    You should really stick with those things that you understand …or where your broom can take you. There is EVERY reason why politics and religion should be intertwined…. not least of which, is that the REALLY important rules that drive success in this world are SPIRITUAL in nature.
    The way that we organise our society, therefore should be grounded in concepts that RESPECT these spiritual realities.

    The FACT that the current church leaders are a bunch of brass bowl idiots and albino-centric mendicants only speaks to the TOTAL breakdown of national perspective. The albino-centric shiite has overtaken EVERYTHING… including the church. This however, DOES NOT take away from the VITAL importance of the country having sound spiritual GROUNDINGS. We will NEVER move in that direction by the stupid logic of throwing away BOTH the baby and the nasty, albino-centric, bathwater.
    …..ya mean we do not possess the collective intelligence to identify a baby from stinking shiite-water and to separate the two…?

    Artax is saying that since he can actually smell the nasty water, and see bits of poop in it, then every thing has to go….Baby and all…

    BIM is right. But it is not the ‘church’ that needs to be called out, but those (few?) remaining Bajans who appreciate the damn baby, and who can be convinced to pour off the shiite water and replace it with clean, scented, sterilised warm water.
    Of course to do this we may have to first clean up the baby with disinfectant (lock up some of the ff’ers, embarrass the many compliant thieving supporters, and SEEK OUT AND RECRUIT true talents to lead…)…… Sackcloth and ashes…!!!
    After this cleansing, you can be assured that the damn baby would start growing up in a healthy, productive way – and the shiite place would again learn to punch above its weight class.

    The alternative is to continue on the path to Hell….worshiping the trident at the Garrison.

  30. mitchlans Avatar
    mitchlans

    The biggest chunk of that pie chart is missing. “Hypocrites”.

  31. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Bushie

    Generations of philosophers have tried to separate spirituality from religion, with little success.

    Given those circumstances, what do you mean by spiritual concepts within politics?

  32. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Bushman…that is exactly where marrying religion and politics has taken you…to burying a pitchfork at the garrison….ya cant rail against it then accept it in the same breath….all politicians have a god story to fool the vpters, they learbed that scam from their slave masters, where ya think they git it from……..they even planted Durant in the senate to talk an everlasting roll of shit.

    What ya can say is, politicians should look at spirituality in a different light, not as manmade but applied logically and intelligently in its natural state..,, not from some white man’s book of lies.

    That’s where my broom takes me Bushman.

  33. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    WW&C

    Good going and we actually agree on this subject…….Politics&Religion have abused the populi over the centuries but they like it so.

    ….in the name of winning elections parties have backraised each other to detriment of the country.

    ….in the name of God everything has been promised in the hereafter once you do his biddings as interpreted by the various bushmen over millenia again to the retardation of mankinds development.

    Bushie time you start whacking yourself.

  34. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    https://www.facebook.com/TheOther98/photos/a.115969958413991.17486.114517875225866/1757921127552191/?type=3

  35. Bernard Codrington Avatar
    Bernard Codrington

    Vincent Haynes @ 11:09 AM.

    I love the poster. The Guy that authentic Christians follow fed the hungry and cared for the poor. He dealt with the real problems and concerns of the marginalized.

  36. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Kinda hard to stand up when the political class are standing on our necks, and with their hands deep in our pockets.

  37. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @David March 22, 2017 at 8:39 PM “Are some of us able to comprehend that Barbados has a large religious constituency and by engaging with them there is the possibility of being able to penetrate with a message? We live in a democracy and all views perspectives must contend. This is what defines freedom of expression.”

    True dat David, but still…

    even those of us who are religious, even those of us who are Christians are more than a little leery when the capitalist class and/or the political class and/or religious class (aren’t they all the same thing?) start telling us what is good for us. They have phuc>ed us up before and I am in no doubt that they are all looking for opportunities to phuc> us up some more.

    Neither the political class nor the capitalist class nor the religious class have been our friends for the past near 400 years.

    Those people have mostly looked our for themselves, their kin, their class, their party members and their co-religionists.

  38. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    We should never forget that for most of Barbados’ history the CHRISTIAN CHURCH WAS THE ENEMY of the majority of people. The Christian church upheld the capitalists and the politicians in the brutality inflicted on the majority of our ancestors.

    So that even those of us who are Christians do not have the same trust, and the same confidence, and the same faith in the Christian God, and the Christian as do those white people who benefitted from being Christians.

    Our relationship with the Christian Church, and with the Abrahamic/Christian/Islamic/Rasta God will forever be conflicted, especially as according to the writings that same God didn’t seem to like black people or women very much., and if you were/are both black and female he had/has no use for you at all.

    And God knows this to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

  39. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Tony Trotman March 23, 2017 at 3:45 AM “The letter mentions the “vast degradation in morality”

    I put it to any thinking person that Barbados in 2017 is morally superior to Barbados in:

    1917
    1817
    1717
    1627

    If your premise is wrong, then you conclusion is bound to be wrong.

    If you start looking back in Barbados’s history for a morally superior place you won’t find it and you are bound therefore to reach the wrong conclusion.

    Acknowledge that Barbados has always been a morally nasty place, then maybe we can move forward from that profound TRUTH.

  40. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    http://bbc.in/2ndMVWE
    What’s up Africa satirist Ikenna Azuike looks at Kenya’s prophecies and whether people rely on them more than the weather channel, or their local bookmakers.
    bbc.co.uk|By BBC News

  41. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    We did not come here on the Mayflower to this the promised land.

    We did not come here looking for a safe haven and and found escape from religious persecution.

    We did nor grow fabulously wealthy when we arrived here.

    In spite of generations of hard labour, the majority of our people still do not have assets worth $100,000 thousand USD, or the same $100,000 to leave to our children.

  42. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    THINK, THINK, THINK.

  43. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    The original religion of the African people, however, was animism (the worship of spirits), and there is no doubt that most of the slaves were animists. The Islamic religion has been growing in Africa, but so has Christianity.
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=13&ved=0ahUKEwjXkdKxpe3SAhVX0WMKHTvWCSMQFghPMAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.raceandhistory.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fforum%2Fwebbbs_config.pl%3Fmd%3Dread%3Bid%3D2307&usg=AFQjCNEVB-nGZLNTlqxJ_QKwAWGheb0mKw&sig2=YsF3h3SJ0AtZAsHbTKCb1g&cad=rja

  44. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @BIM. “BIM recognizes that our beloved country is today facing the worse financial crisis in its history”

    Ask yourself if financially you would rather be in the Barbados of:

    1917
    1817
    1717
    1627

    And come back with an honest answer.

    Please those don’t belittle the sufferings of those other Bajans, some of whom born in 1917 are still alive to bear witness.

  45. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Hal Austin March 23, 2017 at 3:57 AM “Unless we act now, we will find ourselves like Britain victims of our own liberal open door policies.”

    Dear Hal: The British have spent hundreds of years victimizing other peoples. They are the past masters of brutality. The rest of the world has learned from the British. Maybe the chickens have come home to roost.

    Wasn’t a a British man born and raised in Kent who committed the brutality in London yesterday?

    Stupssseee!!!!!!!!

  46. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Dear Hal: Didn’t the British during most of Barbados’ history commit the following atrocities against our fore-parents:

    Forcible migration
    Murder
    Rape
    Torture
    Forcible separation of children from their parents
    Denied people the right to marriage and family life
    Denied the right to practice their religion
    Denied the right to speak their languages
    Denied the right to practice their culture
    Denied people the right to own land?
    Denied people the right to make a living even by petty vending?

    So what is it again that you want us to be afraid of? Which people are the monsters?

  47. Hal Austin Avatar
    Hal Austin

    Simple Simon,

    Sorry???

  48. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @lawson March 23, 2017 at 6:10 AM “in times like this we must turn to the church ……and dont forget your tithing>”

    Seriously lawson?

    You expect me to pay 25% of my income to the government and to give 10% to the church too?

    WHY?

  49. Gabriel Avatar
    Gabriel

    “We are people who formerly were Africans who were kidnapped and brought to America.Our forefathers weren’t the Pilgrims.We didn’t land on Plymouth Rock.THE ROCK LANDED ON US”…..Malcolm X.That immortal rock,imbedded in our culture and song.

  50. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    Simple Simon

    You are not simple at all!

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