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Trinidad and Tobago is measured as 332 kilometres from Barbados. Given the rights of Caricom citizens to freedom of movement under the RTOC we need to put our gloves on in response to the news that Trinidad is a source of recruits for ISIS.

BU shares the following article from the New York Times because it should be of high interest to all Barbadians and Caribbean citizens.

Trying to Stanch Trinidad’s Flow of Young Recruits to ISIS

By FRANCES ROBLES FEB. 21, 2017

 

Yasin Abu Bakr, second from right, speaking with other Muslims at his mosque in Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago. Credit Federico Rios Escobar for The New York Times

ENTERPRISE, Trinidad and Tobago — By the time he was 17, Fahyim Sabur had memorized the Quran.

At 23, he was shunning calypso parties and giving private Arabic lessons in his neighborhood here in Enterprise, about 20 miles south of Port of Spain, the capital of Trinidad and Tobago.

A year later, he was on the battlefield in Syria, where he died fighting for the Islamic State.

“He never spoke to me about it,” said his father, Abdus Sabur, 56, who sells meat patties on the street. “National Security called me one day and told me, ‘Your son is dead.’ ”

Law enforcement officials in Trinidad and Tobago, a small Caribbean island nation off the coast of Venezuela, are scrambling to close a pipeline that has sent a steady stream of young Muslims to Syria, where they have taken up arms for the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL.

American officials worry about having a breeding ground for extremists so close to the United States, fearing that Trinidadian fighters could return from the Middle East and attack American diplomatic and oil installations in Trinidad, or even take a three-and-a-half-hour flight to Miami.

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President Trump spoke by telephone over the weekend with Prime Minister Keith Rowley of Trinidad and Tobago about terrorism and other security challenges, including foreign fighters, Sarah Huckabee Sanders, a White House spokeswoman, said.

Trinidad has a history of Islamist extremism — a radical Muslim group was responsible for a failed coup in 1990 that lasted six days, and in 2012 a Trinidadian man was sentenced to life in prison for his role in a plot to blow up Kennedy International Airport. Muslims make up only about 6 percent of the population, and the combatants often come from the margins of society, some of them on the run from criminal charges.

They saw few opportunities in an oil-rich nation whose economy has declined with the price of petroleum, experts say. Some were gang members who either converted or were radicalized in prison, while others have been swayed by local imams who studied in the Middle East, according to Muslim leaders and American officials.

The young men found solace in radical Islamist websites and social media.

And in the call to jihad.

In contrast to the laws of many countries, it is not illegal in Trinidad to join the so-called caliphate, though the government wants to change that. One hundred to 130 people have made the trip to Syria from Trinidad, which has a population of 1.3 million, according to a former United States ambassador, John L. Estrada, and Trinidad’s minister of national security, Edmund Dillon.

By comparison, about 250 citizens of the United States, a country with 240 times the population, had joined the extremists or attempted to travel to Syria by late 2015, according to a House Homeland Security Committee report.

Per capita, Trinidad has the greatest number of foreign fighters from the Western Hemisphere who have joined the Islamic State, said Mr. Estrada, who stepped down after the inauguration of President Trump last month.

“Trinidadians do very well with ISIL,” Mr. Estrada said. “They are high up in the ranks, they are very respected and they are English-speaking. ISIL have used them for propaganda to spread their message through the Caribbean.”

Much of the information about the identities of those who went abroad comes from American intelligence sources, although local imams and Islamic leaders all said they knew several people, including women, who had left.

“I know whole families that went,” said Imtiaz Mohammed, president of the Islamic Missionaries Guild, which does charity work in Trinidad and the Middle East.

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Umar Abdullah, an Islamic activist in Trinidad and Tobago, at home with his daughter. Credit Federico Rios Escobar for The New York Times

Juan S. Gonzalez, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for Western Hemisphere affairs, said the bulk of Islamic State fighters from Latin America originated in Trinidad and Tobago. The numbers underscore a risk of lone-wolf attacks in the region, he added.

“As the United States continues to corner ISIS and defeat them, a lot of these guys aren’t going to feel they have safe quarters,” Mr. Gonzalez said. “Is the Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago, the United States, prepared for these guys to return back to their countries? This is a real vulnerability.”

He noted that people in the Caribbean enjoyed visa-free travel throughout the islands, which makes it fairly easy to travel to the Bahamas, and from there make a “short jump” to South Florida.

The United States, which encouraged Trinidad to tighten its laws, has hosted meetings with Muslim leaders at the embassy in Port of Spain, and paid for several to attend anti-extremism workshops in the United States.

Mr. Sabur, the young radical from Enterprise, is one of a handful of Trinidadians known to have died in Syria. Others include Shawn Parson, who appeared in an Islamic State recruiting video. He was targeted by an F.B.I. program that, with the cooperation of the military, sought to eliminate the group’s social media figures, often with drone strikes.

Last summer, Shane Crawford, also known as Abu Sa’d at-Trinidadi, perhaps Trinidad’s best-known Islamic State recruit, was prominently featured in an article in the group’s magazine, Dabiq, in which he called for attacks on Western embassies.

Mr. Crawford said he had been influenced by Islamic lectures and a Trinidadian Muslim leader, Ashmead Choate. Mr. Choate “attained martyrdom” in Ramadi, Iraq, the article said.

The genesis of today’s rising militancy, Mr. Crawford added in the article, can be traced to the failed 1990 coup, when a group of radical Muslims took legislators hostage in a siege of Parliament. When it was over, two dozen people were dead.

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Yasin Abu Bakr, 76, who led that uprising and has since been released from prison, said the government had created a climate where young Muslims did not feel safe or welcome in the military or civil service. “This is total discrimination and isolation against young Muslims in Trinidad,” he said in an interview.

Trinidad’s attorney general, Faris Al-Rawi, said that after the coup, wearing Muslim garb “took on a certain appeal.”

“A lot of people who were not genuinely Muslim or otherwise took on the persona to carry on their thuggery,” he added.

Mr. Al-Rawi said Mr. Crawford was believed to have died in Syria. His mother, Joan Crawford, said she had heard rumors that he had been badly wounded.

Ms. Crawford, 62, said that her son had been falsely accused of plotting to kill the Trinidadian prime minister, and that this had diminished his professional prospects, even though he ran a fish business and had experience in plumbing.

“Once you are branded a terrorist in your own country, what could you do?” said Ms. Crawford, a former Spiritual Baptist who converted to Islam after her son did. “I did cry, because I knew I would never see him again. I did not get to say goodbye.”

 

Haruun Ben Usuf, left, an imam in Trinidad. At least one Muslim who has joined the Islamic State has been through his mosque. He said he hadn’t known of that Muslim’s plan to join the jihadist group. Credit Federico Rios Escobar for The New York Times

Efforts to combat the flow of young Muslims to overseas battlefields have been complicated by the ambivalence toward, and sometimes support for, the jihadi cause among some imams and the recruits’ parents. In an interview that began and ended with a prayer, Mr. Sabur said he had welcomed his son’s death as a martyr: “I felt elated. Speaking about it now, I am overelated.”

The Trinidadian government last week introduced a series of amendments that would criminalize membership in the Islamic State and other extremist organizations. People who traveled to certain regions would be presumed to be doing so for terrorism, and the burden to prove otherwise would be on them, Mr. Al-Rawi said.

Mr. Mohammed, of the Islamic Missionaries Guild, criticized the proposed legislation, saying groups like his that make trips to the Middle East are often engaged in charity work and could be unfairly singled out.

“You can’t just go to a court and have a judge tell you that you are guilty with no evidence, just an assumption,” he said.

Mr. Mohammed has publicly denounced the Islamic State, but noted that his own United States visa and commercial pilot’s license had been revoked after a terrorism suspect passed through his Islamic center.

A senior intelligence official in Trinidad who was not authorized to speak publicly said he worried that the proposed legislation would make people who would have left for Syria plan attacks at home instead.

He said about 15 or 20 of the Islamic State recruits spent two weeks before their trips at a mosque in Rio Claro, about 50 miles southeast of Port of Spain. There, they attended an orientation, the official said.

Umar Abdullah, an Islamic activist, said he had been among those who encouraged the would-be fighters.

Despite having made thinly veiled threats to Americans in the past, which led a cruise ship on its way to Trinidad to turn back, Mr. Abdullah has since denounced extremism, and now says Muslims must work with the United States to “change the narrative.” It would be “stupid” to try to attack the United States Embassy, he said.

“At one point in time I was a strong believer in that, and I still believe it to some extent,” Mr. Abdullah said. “But to do something like that would put the Muslim community in harm’s way. We would not be able to stand the fallout of that type of action.”

The imam in Rio Claro, Nazim Mohammed, denied running an Islamic State training program, and insisted that he operated an elementary school and a weekly food program for the poor. But he acknowledged that two of his children and five of his grandchildren were in Syria, and that the adults were believed to be involved with the Islamic State.

“Killing and murdering is not Islamic,” Nazim Mohammed, 75, said in an interview. “Our program is to help people. You know how many people have come here for help?”

He insisted that his children did not notify him of their plans, and he shrugged off the group’s influence.

“Who is ISIS?” he said. “ISIS is just a few people.”

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115 responses to “Trinidad Source of Young Recruits to ISIS”


  1. Don’t hold your breath , but the weak- kneed leaders which we have been lumbered with ,will ,as usual, sit back and do sweet F.A, until the situation gets out of hand , like the unprecedented flood of weapons and ammunition into Barbados , and are being viciously used all over the country. And even now, very little visible effort is being made to stem the rising tide of gun imports. It is easier now to purchase a firearm, that an early yam.
    The Attorney – General and who is also the MP for this area is quoted in yesterday’s Sunday Sun, on the question of the burgeoning situation of squatters in the Gemswick / Rock Hall area,as stating that “I have some very good friends who live over there who have made the best out of very bad conditions. I am very empathetic……………”
    Perhaps the Attorney-General also has friends over there in Trinidad.


  2. In my opinion, the judiciary and HMP Dodds are by far too soft. We need labour camps for the young gunners to teach them obedience and work ethic. A tropical island is the ideal place. They cannot run away and there is plenty dangerous work to do like mending roads at night or the quarry. Of course, the same applies for everybody supporting drug and weapon trafficking or profits from these subjects.

    We need somebody like Judge Dread eh… Dredd.


  3. This is a barrel of laughs. Nobody inTrinidad cares to / needs to move to Barbados so relax.


  4. If Trinidad and Guyana are a recruiting ground for young militant Muslims, it takes a certain amount of self-delusion to think that Barbados does not have its fair share of the militants. At least one leading Trinidadian Muslim was educated at a Wahhabi university in Saudi Arabia.
    Is he being funded by the Saudis to preach his hate in Trinidad and the rest of the Eastern Caribbean? Has he got followers or agents in Barbados?
    We have our own home-grown Holocaust deniers, our own local tyrants, our own beheaders, so why not our own bombers?
    Are the security services on top of their jobs?


  5. Is it about moving to Barbados to live or being able to travel to Barbados period.

    In this weekend newspaper AG Brathwaite was quoted saying that the international drug trade is responsible for the increase in gun flow into the country.


  6. Oh I thought it was immigration. My bad.


  7. Have you ever traveled on the flights originating from POS to BGI?


  8. Abu Bakr et al are a source of national disgrace in T&T in the eyes of 99% of the population, yet still he has the small pocket of people who still manage to see him as some kind of inspirational figure for the youth because he makes holier than thou speeches about the youths putting down the guns, when in reality he is the one supplying them, or at least he was for 2 decades. An absolute mess.


  9. It’s been a decade so my experience is outdated.

  10. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @ColonelBuggey. If what you are saying is true, regarding the stock of illegal guns in Barbados, then our murder rate should have been through the roof. Every caribbean Island that has experienced a large increase of illegal fire power, has seen their murder rate skyrocketed eg. (Bahamas, St Kitts, USVI, St Lucia, etc). Are you not over-exaggerating bit? Last time I checked, Barbados still remains one of the safest caribbean Island.

  11. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    I find the article too hyperbolic to say the least. Bahamas is not even part of Caricom free travel arrangement.

  12. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Sad that a talented population like TT would have people dumb enough to follow the toxic jihad crowd from the middle east….it just goes to show the failures of successive governments over the decades who themselves did not practice less corruption, do their jobs and use their influences to keep their young people’s minds mpre stimulated…..they themselves are toxic examples fof society failing young people who feel the need to follow a destructive religion with calls fir death and destruction. rather than adapt to their own society.

    Adriel Dimwit, the police, the DPP and all the ministers know exactly who imports guns into Barbados, they rub shoulders with these people often, they know but do not want to stop it…or they would….so when Adriel Nitwit goes off crying to the EU rep about guns like it only happened yesterday, he should be ashamed.

    First people to look at are the people who hold gun dealer licenses, they also traffic in guns illegally…remember Owen Arthur’s brother, whatever happened to that case, look at Bjerkham’s son, look at the indians who import containers pf marijuana, the Adam store son with the gun charge and container of marijuana, whatever happened to that case, ask minister Michael Lashley about his and David Thompson’s St. Philip buddy/employee, containers of marijuana, cocaine and guns go hand in hand.


  13. @fortyacresandamule

    Why be distracted by Bahamas?


  14. Well well,

    This is the best post you have made since I have been reading you. It goes to show that beyond the blunderbluss there is some reason. You are spot on about the gun runners and drug dealers.
    Tell you a story: Some years ago, in my youth, when I was working for the News of the World, I was doing an investigation on drug dealers in North West London.
    One Saturday, talking to a second generation Bajan lad, I asked him about the big drug dealers in the area. He told me I was off track. The big dealers were not young back boys, but the Asians with their shops opened 24 hours a day.
    We had a mistaken belief that they opened long hours because they were hard working. Wrong.
    Many of these businesses were fronts for drug dealing. I am sure the same thing is going on in Barbados.
    Government should take ALL guns out of private hands; declare an amnesty for illegal guns; increase the penalties for possession.
    The bright boys and girls will say that the bad boys will still have illegal guns. So what. They know the risks they run.
    Finally, take guns off ordinary uniformed police. This is not the US. We police with the consent of the people, we do not see ordinary people as the enemy.

  15. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Bermudans do not need visas to travel to the US…Jamaica with it’s 100,000 plus muslim population is thisclose to the coast also.

  16. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Hal…no use getting excited if neither Adriel Nitwit, attorney general, the DPP, the commissioner of police, or any of the ministers will ĺock up the minoity indians, syrìàñs with businesses who they know are dealing drugs and guns because they are all friends or in the Adam case with the BLP, yardfowls from the days of Billie the goat Miler who helped them prosper dòwn Lakès Follý……

    ………or in the case of insurance executives which neither party wants to lock up foŕ stealing from policyholders and the injured….because they, the ministers and DPP are all friends, reaď Parris and Harris….

    …..or in the case of minority whìte business people and others stealing fom the treasury and NIS pension fund with the help of the minìsters because that is hòw the ministers get their bŕìbès añd kickbacks.

    No use getting excited about that comment, I make it all the time.

  17. Passing thru aka waiting Avatar
    Passing thru aka waiting

    Justin Jarrette March 21, 2017 at 3:19 AM #
    This is a barrel of laughs. Nobody inTrinidad cares to / needs to move to Barbados so relax.

    Is this an attempt to insult Barbados as BU David gives you a free pass. David BU usually curses anyone who doesn’t agree with him or the opposition.With the murder and mayhem that passes for life in T&T these days only desperate Bajans would venture to reside in T&T. The place is simply too damn dangerous. The ISIS recruits makes for a volatile cocktail in T&T even Trump realizes that.

  18. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Illiterate trump is not the greatest reference, but TT is volatile, no one needs trump to tell them that, he cant even find TT ON A MAP….someone had to tell him about the place…ah doubt he can pronounce it.

  19. Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island Avatar
    Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island

    Sherwin Patterson alias Jersey Jersey

    This US drug dealer deportee who spent 9 years in US prisons has screwed a lot of people in Barbados being aided by equally dirty Barbados Police who are involved with drugs, guns, prostitution, fraud and Bribery.

    Previous involvement with Rolex, Tastee Treats and Ace of Diamonds Strip Clubs all out of business.

    Very close associate of Nigel Pinder alias Bounty of St Philip big time drug dealer and Peter Harris CGI. He has several politicians among his local connections.

    This crook and woman beater has disclosed on his Facebook page he is looking to start another Strip Club Climaxxx to continue his crooked ways aided by Police, Immigration and Customs for human trafficking of the strippers/prostitution, weed/cocaine and counterfeit US from Trinidad, Jamaica, Guyana and other small Caribbean islands like St. Lucia, St Vincent, Antigua etc.

    This monster has beaten and abused many of the former strippers/prostitutes in his Clubs and having those who stood up to him deported by his corrupt government immigration employees partners in crime.

    No wonder Roxanne his former wife a Guyanese left his sorry ass. Roxanne used to travel to Guyana regularly to bring in cocaine and counterfeit US$ for him to destroy the Barbados society.

    Sherwin Patterson alias Jersey Jersey should be in Dodds Prison along with his criminal associates including Police, immigration and Customs who benefits through kickbacks and bribery on an ongoing basis daily.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212083760828099&id=1197146748

  20. Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island Avatar
    Expose Barbados Criminals Destroying Island

    He also calls himself of Muslim faith using it as part of his criminal network

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10212083760828099&id=1197146748


  21. Justin Jarrette
    In the same way that many of the islands in the Caribbean are used, not so much as outlets for the sale of drugs coming from South America and elsewhere, but primarily as transshipment points, Barbados may be seen as a convenient transit point for Trinis wishing to proceed to the Middle East, evading the security measures in place in the USA and the UK.


  22. fortyacresandamule March 21, 2017 at 7:13 AM #
    And we did not have any gangs either!

  23. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @David. No distraction at all. I am just pointing out a piece of misinformation in the article. Bahamas is not part of CSME, so, you can’t just turn up at the airport in Nassau and expect automatic entry.

  24. fortyacresandamule Avatar
    fortyacresandamule

    @Well Well. No way Jamaica has that number of muslims. Trinidad has the most muslims in its population in the region (~100,000).

  25. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Forty. ..ya right, it’s Guyana have 100,000 muslims and also Trinidad, and I believe from the same article Suriname has 120,000 muslims. I posted an article on it last month and still forgot, Jamaica has no more than 5,000 muslims.


  26. @David, this article was important when first reported in NYT and I am glad that you have highlighted it.

    Of course this subject has been ventilated on BU previously when we had discussions on the matter of GAIA security and particularly too there was debate related to one of the Dean’s pieces re Caricom’s free movement of people.

    This is actually a grave problem for Barbados because of our proximity and close interrelations with T&T.

    One only needs reflect on the woes Jamaicans encountered back in the late 70s, 80s and even into the 90s because as passengers on Air Jamaica flights specially but on any flight US in-bound from Jam they were all treated as potential drug dealers.

    It was a running joke that those flights would land at JFK or Miami and only after an intrusive and extensive search would passengers leave the terminals. We all recall the wood carvings, wonderful drinks and creams that were discovered choc-a-block with the tampi.

    And in futile attempts to avoid close scrutiny Jamaican folk traveled into Bim for that final US journey.

    Different context of course but we can all recall the Bajan fallout from that ‘green-tea’ era.

    To dismiss this growing T&T threat as unrelated to Bdos is so absolutely simplistic on so many levels pertinent to our security and relations with US that it boggles comprehension.


  27. @Dee Word

    Yes the article is important but it will not be given the 100% exposure because the majority of media ownership is Trini concentrated.

    What intelligent Baje never do is to plan, we react.

    To chart build the kind of society we want it has to be planned. What is our Bajan brand and how do we strengthen it?


  28. What is our Bajan brand and how do we strengthen it?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Brass bowlery, mendicancy and mediocrity.
    To strengthen it, we need only to continue smartly as we are doing.


  29. @Colonel Buggy but how do you get to the Middle East without going through the UK?


  30. Jamaican hot-headed convert carries out atrocity in London. Barbadian liberals be aware of medieval barbarism..


  31. @ Hal,

    It disturbs me that so many British Caribbeans have become attracted to this religion of “peace”. Quite rightly a lot of our young and not so young men have rejected their Christian faith; but to do so whilst embracing Islam is nothing short of absurd.

    Trevor Brooks was just another poor mis-guided soul.

    Hal we West Indians are a naive and a gullible people.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/abu-izzadeen-london-terror-attacks-westminster-who-is-he-police-politicians-a7644626.html


  32. @David, not that we needed a reminder of the power of lone-wolf ‘terrorists’ but that alleged terror attack in Westminster is the same blue-print that would be followed by those ISIS T&T recruits aspiring to virgins and martyrdom.

    I am dismayed by your contention (likely accurate) that the local or regional news media are not inclined to report of the ISIS-Trini nexus due to some misplaced birth-place loyalty because this threat needs to be dealt with boldly and transparently by the media as the entire region (and they too) suffer from attacks of this type.

    There was a contention in the article above from a young combatant that ” It would be “stupid” to try to attack the United States Embassy. At one point in time I was a strong believer in that, and I still believe it to some extent. But to do something like that would put the Muslim community in harm’s way. We would not be able to stand the fallout of that type of action.”

    Seemingly wise words but I expect that the security services are still on high alert and are not persuaded by his decorous reasoning.

    A terror statement at any US or British or French owned property, even limited in the small Caribbean scope of any of our islands, would still be a loud shot heard – as they say – around the world.

    These T&T ISIS warriors are of grave concern to the well-being of life as we enjoy it.


  33. @Exclaimer at 3:41 PM …Based on your previous enlightened posts of a person who appears to have read various and many texts your remark is nothing short of confusing that “… Quite rightly a lot of our young and not so young men have rejected their Christian faith; but to do so whilst embracing Islam is nothing short of absurd.”

    That is a flawed contention.

    Islam is the second largest world religion to Christianity. Of course in some parts of the world it is number one. And it is certainly as old and as entrenched as Christianity.

    The Muslim faith is not some fly-by-night construct or flavor of the day Starbucks blend that has whimsically captured the hearts of Caribbean men.

    What a quaint and amazing assertion considering that British monarchs of centuries past were travelling to the mid-Eastern climes spreading their Christian doctrine as they killed, marauded and decimated infidels.

    Just as equally strong beliefs were spread by marauding, murderous Muslim potentates on their infidels.

    Yet, Islam and Christianity at their core are religions of PEACE.

    The fact that like the early Christian crusaders and many current ones too, there are war-mongers among the faithful who want to destroy any and all who do not adhere to their pristine beliefs is unfortunate. But a fact of life.


  34. @Dee Word

    It can’t happen in this country.


  35. Exclaimer,
    It is search for meaning in their lives. They believe that the black community has failed them and the find the appeal of other worldliness attractive. It is another manifestation of self-hate.
    @About lone-wolves: there is a theory in criminology about the loner. It is s simplistic and easy way to explain terrible social events. It goes along with stranger danger, that the people who perpetuate evil deeds are always strangers. Look at events in the US and Europe and you will see they usually blame immigrants for all kinds of evil.
    The reality is that the worst offences take place in the family. But how can a society tell young people that the evil people in their midst are their brothers, fathers, uncles, cousins. It will spell the end of the family.
    I had a friend who worked as a lawyer for one of the magic circle law firms – the top five firms in Britain – and every time there was a big crime we will ring each other and say the offender was a ‘loner’ and just laugh our heads off. The modern equivalent is that people are radicalised while sitting behind their computers in their bedrooms.
    It is a myth in reality as it is in criminology. So-called lone wolves are usually part of an organised group.

  36. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Hal and Exclaimer….yall gptta wait until scotland yard identifies the suspect befpre calling names, that report was wrong and the wrong man identified, he is not even Jamaican but born in UK, he is a Brit and was nowhere near the incident, because he is in prison.

    Hal…ya can get sued for spreading that ish….lol

    “Abu Izzadeen’s brother says he is still in prison and not London attacker

    Jon Sharman 4 hours ago22 comments

    The man initially named as the attacker who mowed down pedestrians and stabbed a police officer outside Parliament is in fact still in prison for an unrelated matter, his brother has said.

    The brother of Abu Izzadeen, formerly known as Trevor Brooks, called into Channel 4 News to say he could not be the attacker, after he had been named earlier in the broadcast.

    Izzadeen was born in Hackney in east London and converted to Islam just before he turned 18, in 1993, originally changing his name to Omar. He has previous convictions for terror related offences.

    Channel 4 said in a statement: “On tonight’s Channel 4 News, senior home affairs correspondent Simon Israel quoted a source as saying that the name of the Westminster attacker was believed to be Abu Izzadeen, formerly known as Trevor Brooks.

    “During the course of the programme, conflicting information came to light. Channel 4 News is currently looking into this.”

    Mr Israel tweeted: “The source I trusted, but ultimately I made a mistake. This time I got it wrong. Abu Izzadeen is in prison.”

    Channel 4 News editor Ben De Pear tweeted: “Tonight our trusted Correspondent @simonisrael made a mistake in naming the wrong person as the suspect in the parliament attack.

    “in years of award winning coverage @simonisrael has rarely been wrong; tonight he was. Abu Izzadeen is in prison & not the suspect”.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    Lots of retractions and apologies to follow.


  38. When are the idiots here going to come to see this ignorance about terrorism as a western canard to maintain order at home and empire abroad.

    A political equation previously impossible, in history.

    The evidences are clear.

    Almost all of these so-called terrorists were western trained or trained by people who were trained by western intelligence agencies.

    There have been so many so-called ‘terrorist’ attacks were people who were supposed to be dead are still alike, where blood at the scenes was fake – TV blood, where people who supposedly lost limbs did not bleed out after hours, etc,

    So-called attacks which are so similar in execution, clumsiness and ignorance they seem as though theatre was the objective and not violence per se.

    The contradictions are many

    We have circumstances, in Europe, where the a french bomber was known to the security services and after a so-called bombing was able to traverse several countries unchallenged by border officials specially posted.

    Does anybody ever ask where do these people get their resources to move around the world? Ordinany people have to work for 2 years sometimes to take a holiday.

    They come from the western security agencies. Like the White Helmets, a terrorist group within Deash, given 100MM by Britain and other western countries, and an Oscar this year by the faggots in Hollywood.

    Jesus Christ come for your world. These levels of wickedness are to great for mere humans to contemplate.

    How could it be possible that Deash (ISIS), the so-called terrorist group in Syria to withstand the might of Russia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Hezbollah and sometimes Turkey for six years?

    Why have these terrorists who are supposed to hate the Zionist state so much have never once attacked Israel?

    The reverse is true, the Zionists provide them with advanced weapons, aerial support, medical attention, diplomatic protections.

    Indeed, in the USA, ALL of the attacks were masterminded by elements within the security architecture, by people on the payroll of the security forces.

    In countries like the UK, France, Germany and elsewhere their security forces have been, as slaves to the American imperium, running these fake terrorist attacks to make us feel, in the case of the USA, that trillions have to be spent on warfare instead of health care.

    This is why these people badly need Russia as a viable boogeyman because their lies about Muslim terrorism have as many holes as a fish net.

    We unhesitatingly, blame all of these attacks or rumours of attacks on western governments.

    As a corollary, the Americans have been feigning the bombing their terrorists in Iraq and Syria recently. After they helicoptered out the leaders of these groups.

    We hold no sympathy for these criminal acts perpetrated by western governments. All of them are mere jokes to us. Even when some innocent people must die.

    The ugly people who cry crocodile tears for westerners never have any sorrows for Yemeni babies, Syrian babies, Iraqi babies who are killed everyday by western terrorist governments.

    There is a particular ugly man here whose raison detre is to buy the western propaganda wholesale. His is to presuppose that Muslims are to be feared. That Muslims are not to be in western countries. That anything which happens to Muslim is somehow justifiable.

    Maybe his ugliness prevents him from seeking that all that they have done to Muslims, including Guantanamo, was just a dry to subject the whole population. A western population which that idiot feels proud to belong.


  39. @ De pedantic Dribbler,

    You have always been a flawed thinker. What a pity.

    You suggested that Islam and Christianity are at their core religions of peace. Sadly, you have been foolishly misguided. Both religions are control mechanisms that keep you and the masses, firmly, in check.

    Both of these marauding man-made religions have used brute force to insure their survival throughout the ages. That you are prepared to go on record to protect religions that have done so much to destroy our African ancestry speaks volumes.


  40. David, in American football there are myriad plays that a coaching staff have in their playbook and they give them cute names.

    In your 4:55 PM post I get your facetious play there. So the perfect BU playbook name would be ‘The Ostrich’.

    ISIS has a call to their world-wide acolytes to act as best as they can. I think they say to the effect that if there is no machine gun, get a knife and in the absence of a knife get a truck or car to spread mayhem.

    If we run that Ostrich play here in the region too much longer I am sure we may have a new name for the playbook: Headless!

    I hope the T&T security services and RSS along with the local affiliates of the US and Brits Intel gurus are fully alert and abreast of this real Trini ISIS threat.


  41. The reality is that this ISIS recruit business in T&T is being made real in the main because of a dysfunctional society. Yes some are caused by warped interpretation of a faith but …


  42. I have not gone on record to protect any religion. We can think for ourselves and it is ridiculous to have these aimless broadsides about the benefit of one faith over another.

    I questioned your assertion that it is absurd that Caribbean men should adopt Islam.

    Everyone is free to take their guidance from where they may and adopt the principles that are righteous to them and give their life value. And in dong that there is little merit in dsparging one faith over another.

    What African ethos exactly do YOU follow that has not destroyed the fabric of the African males?

    Pray give me your divine word that has uplifted the African to higher heights of superior wisdom, peace and success with his fellow man.

    Adherence to any faith and religious deity has its flaws.

    To believe in anything – even nothingness – is to enjoin a never ending battle of what is right and what is wrong as one seeks self-fulfillment.

    With respect, please don’t pretend to know what I believe and to misinterpret so badly what I said.

    I have no problem being a flawed thinker, good sir. This is a flawed world so methinks I am about normal then!

  43. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
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    I am more concerned with these petty little politicians and government ministers allowing 2 or 3,000 minority muslims freedom to do whatever they like on the island, just so the politicians/ministers can earn a few more votes for election…therein lies the dangers when they are allowed the run of the island by bith governments and no one knows exactly what else they get involved in, except for the usual known racketeering.


  44. I am stupefied

    Honourable Blogmaster you cannot be serious per your post at 4.55 p.m.

    Surely you jest!!

    I must admit that i came into the discussion very late still reeling from the constancy of the Internet Attacks but I honestly cant believe what i read.

    You mean that you have the former president of the Gun Association of Barbados found with 19 guns and 4500 rounds of ammunition, guns going missing from the Office of the Commissioner of Police, a whole prison burning down and not a man ent know how it start and you are making this incredulous statement bout IT CANT HAPPEN HERE IN BARBADOS?

    ON average we are at 2 killings a month.

    So you mean to tell me that one incident cannot jes find itself inserted in this increasing violence BECAUSE YOU SAY SO?

    You need to retract your statement and restate it to say YOU PRAY THAT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE.

    You must be grateful that, in the geopolitical structures of the world, that this likkle rock affords no advantage to *** or all that bravado, founded on I know not what, would quickly disappear like the 15K paid Mugabe marchers did on Saturday a few weeks ago


  45. @Pieces @ 8:06…whooo. Despite you many graphic masterpieces yet you can’t see a facetious tongue firmly located in cheek when authored by another!

    Surely the blogmaster was in sarcasm mode and painting a lovely pic.

    Now, I would like to believe that some of the Pacha post was also soaked in conspiratorial sarcasm but likely not. LOL.


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  47. Sometimes we must join hands to save idiots from themselves. Hiding in their little cubby holes, they fire off shots at society and then sit back and laugh.
    But, in the course of doing so, they act as agents provocateurs, they are Holocaust deniers (a criminal offence in Europe and North America), incite to murder, a criminal offence all over the world, and support terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas.
    At some point the security services must take an interest in them (if they are males) and bring down the forces of law and order on their heads.
    Free speech is not unconditional.

  48. Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences Observing Blogger

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/london-terror-attack-suspect-identity-british-born-citizen-mi5-investigate-extremism-islamist-a7645331.html

    London attacker was British born extremist….

    “The Westminster attacker was born in Britain and had previously been investigated for suspected extremism by MI5, Theresa May has confirmed.

    The Prime Minister said the probe took place several years ago and that the unnamed suspect was not “part of the current intelligence picture”.

    “The police have no reason to believe there are imminent further attacks on the public,” she told MPs gathered in a packed House of Commons.

    READ MORE
    Theresa May’s defiant speech to the House of Commons in full
    “Some years ago, he was once investigated by MI5 in relation to concerns about violent extremism.

    “He was a peripheral figure and the case is historic…there was no prior intelligence of his intent or the plot.”

    The Prime Minister said the attacker was believed to be inspired by Islamist ideology but did not name any group.

    Overnight raids in Birmingham and London have resulted in the arrest of eight people and intensive investigations continue as the police presence is stepped up nationwide.”


  49. ‘British born’ does not mean anything. If I had a child born in China that would not make it a Chinese, that is why the nonsense of birth needs urgent review.
    German has for years denied people of Turkish heritage citizenship even if they were born in Germany.
    In fact, having native-born fifth columnist is a greater threat than stranger danger. But some nations are now becoming aware of this. Britain is now withdrawing passports from native-born criminals and recently Germany has started deporting Germany-born people to the countries of their parents. Quite interestingly, neither of the two men involved in the latest German case had been convicted of any offence. They were both suspected Isis supporters. All that is right, but it must be escalated.
    We must not allow bombers and terrorists to move out of their medieval cultural barracks to threaten the rest of the world. We as Caribbean people may have our problems with Europeans, but we must also resist other ethnic, religious and national groups stepping in as substitutes.
    I know of a case I referred to previously of a woman in Barbados illegally having a son who is now accepted as ‘Barbadian’ and is in schools. Many so-called New Barbadians are a threat to the nation by nature of having a higher calling than the laws of the land.
    That is madness. An illegal woman’s child should have her nationality. We also have the case of people like Bjerkhamn claiming to be Barbadian on the flimsy grounds that he has lived here since the age of six. Nonsense. He is Norwegian – no and always.
    So all those Barbadians with US, Canadian and UK passports who think they have gone over to the other side are living a myth.

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    I suspect this dude’s heritage for generations is british, they have not yet said he has any other heritage, MI5 investigated him and they would know, but have not said anything yet either way….they cant deport him based on his extremism, they cant deport him now at all.

    I would love to see Bjerkham, Peter Harris, Bizzy, Cow, Maloney and the government ministers etc kicked the hell out of Bim because of their nasty greed and criminal activities against the citizens, but they are citizens and it would be more satisfying to see them locked away and eating dog food.

    Ya cant just go around deporting people because Germany, US, UK etc been doing it for centuries.

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