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At his best, man is the noblest of all animals; separated from law and justice, he is the worst –Aristotle.

Former Attorney General disagrees that laws are needed to force businesses to comply with shutdown order issued by the DEM.
Former Attorney General disagrees with current AG Brathwaite that laws are needed to force businesses to comply with shutdown order issued by the DEM.

Unlike many in Barbados and Trinidad & Tobago, who ascribe their frequent near misses from hurricanes to divine intervention or seek to ascribe a nationality to God that tallies with theirs, my unlearned view inclines rather to the thesis that these countries lie outside the presumed โ€œhurricane beltโ€ and that what might frequently appear to be contrived diversions from hypothetical paths are in fact consistent with the traditional directions of these phenomena.

Of course, this does not create a total immunity, given the frequency and magnitude of these events, although it may ensure that any โ€œhitโ€ is akin to a deflection rather than directly off the meat of the bat, if you will excuse the cricketing analogy. Thus, it is my understanding that the hurricane that is still spoken about with awe locally, the one named Janet in 1955, for all the death, damage and dislocation it caused, was not a direct hit but rather had passed much to the south of the island.

In this context therefore, we should never leave ourselves unprepared for such another such eventuality and, fortunately, it has become almost cultural for locals to store an adequate supply of water and to purchase, albeit at the eleventh hour, enough non-perishable foodstuff to last during any enforced period of restriction to their homes as a result of the passage of the storm.

Further, the state, as part of its constitutional responsibility has established an advisory body of high-powered officials to coordinate the public management of such emergencies. We are thus well organized as a nation to confront any likely danger.

However, in light of the actuality that forecasting the weather is scarcely a precise endeavour, there are likely to be circumstances when, in the interests of public safety, the authorities will be prone to over-caution and to prepare for the worst-case scenario through preventive measures that entail restriction of the freedoms of citizens to act as they might please. Invariably, when the worst case does not eventuate, instead of gratitude, there is no shortage of what those football fans in the US would call โ€œMonday morning quarterbackingโ€, (and what we might call in these parts โ€œbatting from the pavilion) โ€“whereby, with the aid of hindsight, some individuals seek to pillory, to various degrees, both the meteorological forecasts and the official state action that had been taken in good faith with a view to ensuring the public safety.

The extreme state action taken in this context is an island-wide or national shutdown, purportedly regulated by a policy document, impressively titled โ€œPolicy Framework and Standard Operating Procedures for the Systematic National Shutdown & Reactivation of Barbados.โ€ It declares itself as formulated to provide for an orderly shutdown and reactivation of the country following a severe weather, tropical storm or hurricane WARNING (sic) issued by the Barbados Meteorological Service after collaboration with the Department of Emergency Management.

In spite of its significance however, the document trusts rather to ethical suasion for the enforcement of its provisions rather than to the rule of law, with the result that some of its provisions may easily be ignored without legal sanction. Indeed, it is by now notorious that some businesses elected to open their establishments on Wednesday last, much to the chagrin of those state officials who bear ultimate formal responsibility for the operation of the national shutdown.

In their defence, the document, perhaps owing to its essentially collaborative nature is not the most happily drafted piece of regulation one will ever encounter. For example, after expressly stipulating that โ€œโ€ฆOn the issue of the National Shutdown Instruction, private sector entities/companies shall close their operationโ€ฆโ€ taking certain stated matters into account, it then proceeds to catalogue a number of private sector entities โ€œwhich provide essential emergency services to the general public in times of emergenciesโ€ without any further positive or negative provision in that regard.

If it were to be subject to the traditional rules of interpretation, one would be tempted here to apply the principle of construction โ€œinclusio unius est exclusio alteriusโ€ โ€“the inclusion of one in a list implies the exclusion of another that might have been included therein, but is not- and to argue accordingly that those entities not mentioned should not open at all during the shutdown, presumably since they do not supply essential emergency services, while those that are listed and do supply such services are entitled to remain open.

A Barbados Advocate editorial on Friday sought to treat some of the thornier employment relation issues that are likely to arise for those workers who are called out to the workplace during a national shutdown. It is further understood that some employers arranged transportation for some of these workers, thereby creating the legal scenario that the employee is to be taken as having begun work from the time he or she boarded the designated vehicle and was therefore immediately owed a duty of care in respect of their health and safety by the employer.

In another section of the press today (Saturday) the general secretary of the Barbados Workersโ€™ Union, Ms Toni Moore, accused some businesses of focusing solely on their bottom lime, which, with all respect is, within the limits of the law, the raison dโ€™รชtre of free enterprise.

Thing is, there is no current applicable law in force against what occurred on Wednesday, and while there may be some merit in an assertion that there is no law to govern commonsense and ethical behaviour, law is nevertheless the basis on which our society is governed and may be the only language that some will understand.


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92 responses to “The Jefferson Cumberbatch Column – On Weather Emergency Management”


  1. Jeff Cumberbatch
    Thing is, there is no current applicable law in force against what occurred on Wednesday, and while there may be some merit in an assertion that there is no law to govern commonsense and ethical behaviour Correct

    law is nevertheless the basis on which our society is governed Correct

    and may be the only language that some will understand.

    Yes some but those that do not ( in Barbados ) always do as they dam please because the powers of govt have been weak and knock knead in their refusal to enforce the laws , one take a look around Barbados there is such evidence Unless the laws are enforced no matter how much legislation is passed people would continue to make a mockery of the system , The business owners in Swan Street that emptied their garbage in broad daylight took such an advantage knowing full well that no govt official would not dare or bother to question that dastardly and brazen unlawful and illegal dumping in order to find and prosecute the violator of the law.
    Apparently in Barbados we have now reached a stage that everybody is a law unto themselves

  2. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Jeff if I may ask senor, please elaborate on your easy with a prompt of a query or two, You stated that “there is no current applicable law in force against what occurred on Wednesday, and … [notwithstanding common sense] … law is nevertheless the basis on which our society is governed and may be the only language that some will understand.”

    So the queries are: Were business persons able to legally disobey the directives of police officers to shutter their businesses during the national shutdown mandate; and on what legal basis was that police action taken?

    Why should a matter such as this be left flying in the those high wind rather than nailed down practically and legally to avoid unnecessary damage?

    And are we making too much of this? If emergency services had to be activated as a result of a problem which itself had its genesis in the actions mandated by one of these business persons is it not simply possible to charge all costs to him/her?

    As you clearly note with your comment ( “…immediately owed a duty of care in respect of their health and safety by the employer”) there would be ample civil remedy for any employee injured.

    Clearly not a criminal indictment seemingly. And if so why not, if the government thinks their framework is so important.

    Much thanks.


  3. Based on all the above was Kellman right or wrong to open Moontown in St.Lucy to as he said assist his people?

  4. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Oh dear, excuse the typos above…

    **easy= essay
    ** in the those high wind = in those high winds


  5. A tangential observation: the apology from Bynoe is an understandable move in response to the public chiding. He is not stupid.

    Kellman on the other hand is standing firm. It will be interesting to see if he is disciplined by the Prime Minister. The one thing you can say is that he is standing for something even if some believe it is nothing.

    What we have here is business leaders forced to make judgement calls in the absence of laws.


  6. This non-issue has been already hacked to death.
    There is no law regulating the matter – and businesspeople are entitled to use their best judgement. Common sense would dictate that if there was a law established, it certainly would NOT mandate a national shutdown for a ‘depression’ or a minimal storm.

    Lazy people always look for excuses to avoid work.
    Productive people always look for opportunities to exploit… a natural conflict.
    If there is any failing, it is in the now well established area of ‘piss poor national management’.

    BTW…
    Toni Moore’s contribution was brilliant… re businesses focusing on their bottom line. One wonders what she thought they should be focused on…?
    …and Bushie wonders what HER focus was ..when she accepted a duty free handout on her mercedes from the MoF – who represents the biggest employer of her members?
    …the top line…?

    @ AC
    Oh shut up do!!
    Common sense is the basis on which we operate as a society too…
    …and yet you are allowed on BU.


  7. Kellman and the others saw the bottom line figures and opened their businesses not for the benefit of the public or in Kellman’s case his St Lucy people but rather to male a killing had the storm devastated the Island.

    Kellman always comes with some of the dandiest excuses to satisfy the gullible listeners to his tirades. He might not even be capable of understanding when things go bad. What a sorry state we are in.


  8. The debate is bigger than what Kellman did. In a disaster there must be order underpinned by enforceable rules. We can criticise Kellman all we want, this is not the issue. What about all the other citizens who ignored the order to remain indoors?

    We need to fix the problem at source and stop the emotional claptrap.


  9. Before lawyers like Jeff start pontificating on this issue, we need some smart economists to calculate the costs of dozens of unnecessary drills and dress rehearsals for hurricanes that will never arrive.
    Barbados lies south and east of the main hurricane corridor. Like Trinidad and Grenada it is seldom hit, but the hurricanes that do develop outside the main corridor are much more powerful than the average storm. So what are the costs of being somewhat unprepared for the (rare) big hits, compared to the costs of (routine) precautions taken during annual false alarms.
    My own guess is that Barbados is spending more on emergency preparedness than is necessary. But we need some carefully prepared calculations to inform our public debate.


  10. What know according to political aspirant Jeremy Stephen is the based on GDP performance of the economy businesses are in the hole 22 million dollars. We all know that consumers and employees will pay the price.


  11. David Comissiong stated he had no problem with employees showing up for work during the calls by govt for a national shutdown as long as the employee agreed to do so, Well! Well ! Well! absent of the fact there was no law to govern the shut down most employees would have risk life and limb to secure their job out of fear of being fired ,
    However constitutionally there are laws which protect and gives individual a right of privilege for self protection in the event there is a real cause of threats or danger to themselves ,
    Here we have the intervention of an intellectual who cannot understand how the the poor working class have to make hard choices to earn a living and keep their jobs even in times of danger. However can conclude that the employee putting life in danger is ok to satisfy the bottom line for a few


  12. Are the District Emergency volunteers allowed to go out during the shutdown to assist people and are they allowed to go to shopkeepers for assistance with goods to facilitate this assistance?


  13. How did Stephens arrive at $22 million? Why not 44 or 66 million? I am sure that some practitioners of the dismal science could provide different figures or indicate it was a non- event. Barbados is the land of second guessers no more so than on BU. Hurricane forecasting today is very good, however when hurricanes are in the vicinity the forecasters provide several different tracks on what direction it may take on depending on other factors. It is better to err on the side of caution than to be caught flat footed, recently Tomas gave us a glancing blow and there was a bit of devastation and dislocation and any rational person would be very involved in securing their family and property, work be damned.

    Life is not a rehearsal we get one chance and most of us would want to prolong it as much as possible, someone has to call the shots and the authorities decided based on the available information that the country would be better served if the work force was off the road and at home during a possible weather event that could develop into a potential hurricane, it seems that some of us want a free for all where everyone makes his/her own decision based on his/her particular circumstances.

  14. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    I find myself unabable to get my head around this problem.
    (1) Con: employees had to leave their family and to travel during bad weather
    (2) Pro: the employerโ€™s building most like offers similar level of safety as the employees home; so that danger was limited to their travel.
    (3) Pro: they were available to offer services to people who felt it necessary to come out during the storm; their service was of benefit to others.

    We can be Bajans and get into an infinite intellectual discussion about this; but as long as employees had an opportunity to say no (to coming in to work), then this was not a problem.

    Furthermore, (and here is where others sill disagree with me), I resent the fact of the government telling a sane and sensible man to stay indoors during bad weather. This is not a’military’ situation. Was this a curfew?

  15. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    A caution or advisory is nothing more than a caution or advisory.


  16. Marketing 101….in every threat there is an opportunity.
    There should be no law mandating closure of any business.
    There should be a stiff penalty for failure to obey an order issued by the GG of a National Emergency of Barbados the exception being those services as spelled out viz Police,Defence,Hospitals,Power,etc In other words it’s like declaring a Riot.That is a word we all understand since we seem to be dealing with brassbowls like Kellman.


  17. @Sargeant

    The issue is having laws to support if enforcement action needs to be taken in a shutdown scenario. Note we are not discussing state of emergency. It has nothing to do with it being a Barbados thing if we accept that historically a voluntary approach sufficed given our geographical location to the South.

    BTW the GDP output of Barbados is a matter of record.


  18. Stephens said “the economy businesses are in the hole 22 million dollars”

    What about the benefit to businesses of the millions in last minute emergency shopping by Bajans over 2 days?

    What about the value of selling inventory that would otherwise be sitting on shelves?


  19. The decision cannot be left the employees because if there is a problem essential services personnel maybe placed in danger.


  20. @Hants

    The statement must be understood in context. The business sector in Barbados not only about retail outlets.

    >


  21. Tourism is the biggest industry in Barbados. The hotels were not shut down.

    Those with bars and restaurants would have sold more food and liquor as guest stayed indoors.

  22. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    โ€œHinds responds to homeless being left in cold during stormโ€ article by Desmond Brown on October 1, 2016.

    โ€œActing Director of the Department of Emergency Management (DEM) Kerry Hinds has admitted authorities fell short in providing for homeless people during the passage of Tropical Storm Matthew.โ€

    โ€œPresident of the Barbados Vagrants and Homeless Society (BVHS) Kemar Saffrey had expressed outrage that the homeless were forced to brave the elements and no one in authority seemed to care.โ€

    โ€œHinds said there was consideration for vulnerable persons during times of disaster but admitted more needs to be done.โ€t

    That is the real story. The systematic failure of government to look out for all of its citizens. We sit and fret and worry about one segment and consider a next segment as trash and disposable.

    Get out of here.

  23. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    A glaring example of two levels of Barbaadian citizenship; those that matter and disposable.s

    And then those who think they matter wanna cry because they learn they might not really matter; and so they gnash their teeth, and run for their thesauri, and cry like babies… waaaaaaah.

    Forgive me, if I cannot take yah seriously…
    I am out of this….

  24. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    forgive the typos… I’m fired up


  25. Let de ole man present one angle for consideration that we learned (with an acute over the e) men and women HAVE STRANGELY NOT ONE OF US MENTIONED.

    300!!

    Nooooooo, that is not the 300 warriors that Leonidus led and that Hollywood depicted in that record buster about the Spartans

    Neither is it half of the 600 famed warriors of The Charge of the Light Brigade, that British light cavalry led by Lord Cardigan against Russian forces during the Battle of Balaclava on 25 October 1854, in the Crimean War (de ole man cut and paste that piece of historical fact)

    But I doubt dat any uh wunna can tell me what it is so i going expose it by using a nex mystery topic.

    “Civil Preparations for a Nuclear War”

    Again de ole man is seeing the WTF expressions on wunna faces and those who have decided dat de ole man lost it and dat it is time to skip he entries again.

    But I gine reveal it now.

    THere is something called the “minimum civil preparedness” action list that people are supposed to have in place prior to any national disaster

    Tek a look at http://www.oism.org/nwss/s73p927.htm

    Particularly de ole man wants wunna to read de food part which states “Store at least a 2-week supply of compact, nonperishable food. The balanced ration of basic dry foods described in Chapter 9, Food, satisfies requirements for adults and larger children at minimum cost. If your family includes babies or small children, be sure to store more milk powder, vegetable oil, and sugar….”

    60 % of the bajan population earns $300 a week, pre taxes.

    Such meagre incomes DO NOT PREDISPOSE WE NIGGERS to stockpile food for even 1 week particularly not at the specific prices in our supermarkets (EXCLUDING POPULAR/Bertram Hall)

    The last minute habitual? pattern of shopping on the eve of an impending disaster is not because we are last minute planners, rather I should have said, is less because we are last minute planners, but more because 60% of us niggers CANNOT AFFORD TO STOCKPILE ANY SHY##TE cause we ent got de $$ to do that luxury!!!

    Tell me which one uh wunna peeple heah got food supplies stockpiled that wunna DOES NOT USE and which is your Disaster Emergency stocks?

    So on the one hand we have peeple with a preparedness need THAT CANNOT BE ACCOMMODATED cause we as@es ent millionaires and then we have a business community which, in addition to being driven by the reason that they are in business, TO MEK MONEY, would be considered selfish IF THEY DID NOT OPEN THEIR DOORS AND CAUSED 60% of our population to starve.

    While one seems not to be able to definitively predict landfall certainly making accommodation for we “NOT SO LUCKY NIGGERS” should mean something!

    Please peeple get real and stop bashing these businesses for what was/is/and always will be “a mechanic that is driven by the need of peeple to get food/supplies, items THAT OUR DONKEYS DID NOT HAVE, cause we cant stockpile them, to survive”.

    I betcha if de people had lock up dem stores we would be here quarreling bout how unkind Andrew Boyce is, and how he is a millionaire, and dat he feel dat he is god and dat he cant get brek. And all the flax.

    Wunna know de catchment areas dat Boyce does serve in Black Rock?? does any uh wunna really care? dem is de 60% ers

    Kelli is a man who works hard , and many says dat he loves money, and will do most anything for it but really, it ent Kelli who was the beneficiary of de stores being open it is poor ass people who cant stockpile.

    If there is a national emergency AND the government says that the place is on lockdown, it should be that staff should have the option to go to work or not go, and in the event that they do not go, AND GET FIRED for such, then there should be recourse available to such persons.

    A business which determines that it does not have the compliment of staff to open WILL CLOSE ITS DOORS though we can expect that it will be said that “dem rich effers ent want to serve we po’ peeple during a national weather emergency”

  26. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    no disrespect Jeff
    Saw the ‘same’ comments moving across three blogs….

  27. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    @PUDRYR
    The last minute habitual? pattern of shopping on the eve of an impending disaster is not because we are last minute planners, rather I should have said, is less because we are last minute planners, but more because 60% of us niggers CANNOT AFFORD TO STOCKPILE ANY SHY##TE cause we ent got de $$ to do that luxury!!!

    If only I had your gift of gab. That is what the hell I have been trying to say for 3 days.

  28. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    A bet ya the dummy Kellman would never stand up for his people’s rights like that….but is adamant about standing fir what is clearly wrong.

    @government ministersareassbackwards.com.

    Andrew Bynoe knows in business 101….your customers always deserve an apology for your cockups.

  29. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “CANNOT AFFORD TO STOCKPILE ANY SHY##TE cause we ent got de $$ to do that luxury!!!”

    They can afford weave, fetes, kadooment costumes and all other types of useless shit though.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…no one is bashing businesses for opening PRIOR to the storm…..the bashing is for opening while the storm was ACTIVE, WINDS, WATER, FLOODING….ACTIVELY IN PROGRESS…..AT IT’S MOST DANGEROUS.

    But as I said, let them pull that stunt with a more unstable storm than Janet.,,,, the worst that could happen….mass burials.

    Someone sent me a video with some little white fool, being pulled by a car, sking..with real skis, on the garrison…that is so cute, unti ya have to bury them, let’s hope they outdo themselves next hurricane season.

  31. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I dont care where they come from…tourists are used to major disasters in their country….they are populated by millions of people..they know to keep their asses at the hotels where there are bars and restaurants…unless emergency services tell them to evacuate….. …

    ……….no tourist is going to go wandering around for a noodle shop or supermarket in a storm….that is relegated to the most stupid in the society….who had 48 hours prior to the storm to shop.

  32. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “We can be Bajans and get into an infinite intellectual discussion about this; but as long as employees had an opportunity to say no (to coming in to work), then this was not a problem.”

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/87613/probe-workers-coerced

    At least Commissiong is not letting it rest, he wants answers.


  33. the rationale comparing last minute Xmas shopper to last minute shopper on the eve of an impending natural disaster is ludicrous and does not comparatively fit into those warnings or measures given as caution before the disaster occurs.
    Shoppers are told months in advance during the hurricane season to be prepared however very takes those necessary precautions seriously ahead of time .Now what we are hearing are some with their confabulated logic to advanced excuses out of ignorance to support lawlessness

  34. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    “Jeff if I may ask senor, please elaborate on your easy with a prompt of a query or two, You stated that โ€œthere is no current applicable law in force against what occurred on Wednesday, and โ€ฆ [notwithstanding common sense] โ€ฆ law is nevertheless the basis on which our society is governed and may be the only language that some will understand.โ€

    So the queries are: Were business persons able to legally disobey the directives of police officers to shutter their businesses during the national shutdown mandate; and on what legal basis was that police action taken?

    Why should a matter such as this be left flying in the those high wind rather than nailed down practically and legally to avoid unnecessary damage?

    And are we making too much of this? If emergency services had to be activated as a result of a problem which itself had its genesis in the actions mandated by one of these business persons is it not simply possible to charge all costs to him/her?”

    @DPD, Yes, the police had no legal authority to enforce a mere police that is binding in honour only…but the police uniform carries a coercive power beyond the law. So most people obey rather than challenge and wait for vindication in the sclerotic court system. I agree the matter needs a firm statement of principle, preferably by legal sanction.

    Your last point is well mad. Any state expense directly incurred as a result of disobedience of the shutdown order should be treated as money had to the use of the disobeyer and recoverable in restitution.


  35. “@DPD, Yes, the police had no legal authority to enforce a mere police that is binding in honour only…but the police uniform carries a coercive power beyond the law. So most people obey rather than challenge and wait for vindication in the sclerotic court system. I agree the matter needs a firm statement of principle, preferably by legal sanction.

    Your last point is well mad. Any state expense directly incurred as a result of disobedience of the shutdown order should be treated as money had to the use of the disobeyer and recoverable in restitution.”

    It is interesting to note how condescending the acting PM Sealy was when he referred to how the police dealt with Bynoe.


  36. @ Piece
    I think your argument about people not stockpiling groceries because of inadequate income etc. loses its currency when those same folks manage to empty grocery stores at the last minute when an impending disaster is at their doorstep. We are at the most a generation removed from the Friday evening/Saturday morning trek to the village shop to buy/trust the weekly essentials and Bajans by and large still shop that way at the Supermarkets. I think it is risky to buy some goods and store them in a tropical country as that flour will grow mouldy and your rice will deteriorate, also the quality of canned goods will also decline over time.

    (Short story when yours truly was a sapling some hardy folks were gambling under Aberdeen Jones Club Randall in Gall Hill- the Randall had a cellar which allowed people to congregate for this type of activity- when they decided to open a can of corn beef to consume with the obligatory biscuits but the corn beef was โ€œblownโ€ and smelled to high heaven and that emptied the cellar more quickly that a detachment from Oistins). Bajans should only buy and store these goods if they are planning to use and replace them every three months.


  37. @ Well Well & Consequences

    You are going to say that I have a very warped image of people particularly West Indians and most of all Bajans.

    A few days ago, in the middle of this hurricane/tropical storm I was tempted to mention my “ole man unproven theory” regarding the constancy and impact of Hollywood Indoctrination.

    But I said no, it was not worth the time or effort but based on your comment about the active winds, I will type it now.

    go to you tube and type in thrill seekers during national emergency and you will see people doing wheelies, skiing behind cars in snow, standing in from of storm surges on the boardwalk, next to glaciers, over volcanoes, surfing waves in tsunamis ENDLESS stupidity that you nor I, who value our lives, and do not want to be part of the news article saying “authorities are still looking for their body parts”, will never do!!

    It is what these idiots see and they want to be part of the 1 MILLION LIKES CREW!!

    You dont really understand this phenomena do you?

    You and I look at likes as people who, post reading the post that we submitted, liked the rationale of our words, and post assimilating it, vote a like.

    I post my name cause I am the sort of person who if I like your sh*t I ent afraid to say so.

    But these new kids on the block they click to be “part of the crowd” BECAUSE OF THE “MUTUALITY OF THE CLICK”.

    Let me explain that.

    If i give you enough likes, in this thrill seeker subculture, you know who I am and you WILL LIKE ME BACK and invariably, like that canned laughter syndrome, when an audio track is inserted in a stupid movie, an equally vacuous audience going laugh EVEN IF THEY DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE LAUGHING AT!!

    My goal rather their goal is to thrill seek their way to nuff likes!! It is crazy I know but that is their reality!!

    But I digress WW&C.

    The TV and Internet is driving this “thrill seeking” because these dimwits that you and i gave birth to? will record it, video blog it and get likes, AND THE MORE PROFESSIONAL ONES with append an Amazon Store to their blog or advertising, and make some money.

    My substantive point my friend WW&C still is, the $300 salaried, sorry wage earning people who did not get the time to shop the previous day when the weather was nicer?, took the seeming lull period “while the storm was ACTIVE, WINDS, WATER, FLOODINGโ€ฆ.ACTIVELY IN PROGRESSโ€ฆ..AT ITโ€™S MOST DANGEROUS…” point ( you left out point but de ole man did not want that AC de BU Grammar Police say dat I insert a word where you did not put it heheheheh) and went to the stores which accommodated their “lateness”

    I have sat and listented while some stupid? kids, young adults really, said that “they would like to see what a hurricane looked like” EVEN AFTER SEEING THE DEVASTATION OF IVAN.

    My father and grandfather told me of one person who was decapitated by errant galvanize during Janet so I have a healthy respect for high winds.

    Do a youtube google on the Vincentian fellow whom Matthew killed this week and see that the “quiet boy” euphemism for own way child, was, contrary to his mother’s advice, in a bathroom when he got crushed.

    Hard ears won’t hear own way going feel.

    There are some readers here who have storage food pantries like this but we poor peeple shop for de week, we cant afford disaster supplies

    http://modernsurvivalblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/pantry-food-storage.jpg


  38. Barbadians do not stockpile groceries because it is a country that has not had to deal with disaster in the same way as the neighboring islands. The situation has obviously encouraged complacency to set in.

  39. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I understand the lady with Lemongrass noodle shop in Kimegrove has retracted the arrogance and apologized to the public on her facebook page……a sign of maturity, because we are all prone to errors.

    ACs…..when will we be able to say the same thing for the srrogant, petty minister of government Dennis Kellman…..a leader on the island.

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “go to you tube and type in thrill seekers during national emergency and you will see people doing wheelies, skiing behind cars in snow, standing in from of storm surges on the boardwalk, next to glaciers, over volcanoes, surfing waves in tsunamis ENDLESS stupidity that you nor I, who value our lives, and do not want to be part of the news article saying โ€œauthorities are still looking for their body partsโ€, will never do!!”

    Idiocy abounds Piece….pack mentality.

  41. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences
  42. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “The IEP tries to define positive peace in numerical terms, giving countries scores for a range of factors including โ€œacceptance of the rights of othersโ€, โ€œlow levels of corruptionโ€, โ€œthe free flow of informationโ€ and a โ€œwell functioning governmentโ€.”

    Ah guess Barbados cannot be defined in these terms of peace, becsuse the rot starts with the leaders.

    Iceland has the same population as Barbados, but the PEOPLE do not tolerate corruption from the leaders/politicians.

  43. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Thanks Jeff.

    This ‘policy framework shutdown’ reminds me of the absurdity of the fingerprint mandate. How in the name of the old-fashioned concept of ensuring that the donkey is in front the cart does the level of back-ass-ward-ness abound?

    I can only wonder what the police officers would have done if one of those business owners had suggested politely that there was nothing requiring police intervention and invited them to come in and relax or otherwise kindly remove themselves from the premises.

    We all understand the vagaries of the weather but it seems to be lost on those who support this ineffective, ineffectual and inept government policy that folks were able to use the technology available to them and acted on the knowledge that the weather conditions were going to be generally agreeable.

    Of course injuries could still have been caused but the fact is that all actors on that day did so eyes wide open that there were no overpowering winds or flooding.

    The discussion should not be about the business owners or the citizens who were out and about but about the ‘informal’ directive that needs to be made enforceable as Jeff said in his piece: “… law is nevertheless the basis on which our society is governed and may be the only language that some will understand.”

    As also noted above a simple system of fines is quite practical for thrill seekers, recalcitrant business owners et al if Govt is serious. BUTTTTTTT…..

    …The fact that the government has a ‘State of Emergency’ set of rules and this ‘policy frame’ folly clearly shows it’s the same old government officials doing the same old nonsense that shows off their same old ineptitude.

    Much ado about simple stuff!


  44. How can we have a whole DEM (Department of Emergency Managment) established by government to manage in times of disaster and its teeth is made of ‘suasion’?

  45. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “It is true that Jamaica has been more prepared for hurricanes since category 4 Gilbert slammed the island on September 12, 1988. Recovery after each hurricane has been spectacular, notably the return of electricity, water and phone services.

    Still, no country can ever be too prepared for these natural disasters, which are getting worse with the problem of adverse climate change. One area in which we are always woefully unprepared for hurricanes is drain and gully cleaning. The moment a disaster threatens, MPs and councillors get into a mad, last-minute rush to remove the pile-up of months of garbage. One would think that, given the relative frequency of hurricanes, or the threat of them, drain and gully cleaning would become second nature.

    The people being paid to see that gullies and drains are cleaned regularly and not pose a danger to the public in times of flooding, need to have their boss pay them unannounced visits akin to what Mr Vaz did yesterday in Portland.”

    That is called being proactive..a trait sensible people possess.


  46. David October 2, 2016 at 12:51 PM #

    I have asked the question earlier………can the district emergency volunteers who have volunteered to assist persons during a crissis supposed to do nothing until the all clear……..if someone needs urgent help can they go out and knock up a shop owner nearby for some tools or nails…..these questions need answers.


  47. @Vincent

    Wasn’t your question answered?

    The DEM operates under a protocol when a national shutdown is ordered.

    >


  48. charles skeete September 29, 2016 at 6:35 PM #

    โ€œOn the issue of the National Shutdown Instruction, private sector entities/companies shall close their operation taking into account the following:(i) the provision of their disaster plans(ii) the security and operational procedures of the entity/company(iii) the welfare of the employees and the need for them to take their domestic precautions, especially those living in remote and flood prone areas, and(iv) the operators of public transportation will need to withdraw and secure their vehicles well before the impact. Consequently, staff not essential to the entity/companyโ€™s disaster plans should be released early, unless private arrangements can be made for transporting staff home safely.โ€

    Although the above states that private sector entities /companies shall close their operation ; it is my view that โ€ taking into account the followingโ€ gives the employers some leeway in their decision making response to the call for a shutdown which does not appear to be mandatory.

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