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youth“Education would be much more effective if its purpose was to ensure that by the time they leave school every boy and girl should know how much they do not know, and be imbued with a lifelong desire to know it.”William Haley, British Editor.

In Barbados, more things are changing than are staying fixed. More things are seemingly failing than obviously succeeding. It reasons therefore, that the society as a whole must admit the point at which this country sits. Barbadians must be prepared and proactive in deciding what can be done to rescue and recover the progress that Barbados had grown accustomed – at least up until a few years ago.

Necessity demands an issues-centred approach to active engagement with our society. More so, the youth and their affairs must be prioritised in any national engagement since it is this vital group that is being wrongly demonised today. The youth is the same group that will bear the brunt of policy outcomes and hopefully will lead industry in the medium and long-terms. This is precisely why Barbadians should feel compelled to trace our steps to the root problems affecting the nation, and fix the same as a matter of urgency.

Barbados’ educational system is broken. The mode of instruction inclusive of the resistance to new technologies are rendering the educational system obsolete in areas, and thus, in need of comprehensive reform. For starters, the school curricula at primary and secondary levels must be revisited. Concomitant with addressing the educational fallout must be ways that the country comes together with a demand for civic engagement within erected structures of participatory democracy. At present, Barbadian youths suffer due to widespread marginalisation and institutional discrimination.

Politicians have conveniently suggested that Barbadians complain too much, and critics of the government ought to desist so as not to send the wrong signals into the international system. Social media, so natural to youth, is a medium that antagonises the politician in government. The fact is, the current government has fascination with silence and silencing. It is for this reason, that it must be added that Barbadian youth are being short-changed due to this cryptic inclination from the political elites that is exposed in many more ways than one.

Let us be clear. We are in deep, deep trouble as a country. The educational situation is greatly complicated when fixed ideas about reality are continually substituting for discussions on dynamic issues and complex problems. Annually, there are increasing numbers of Barbados’ youth that suffer through primary and secondary education. These young people later emerge as under-certificated persons interested in earning rather than learning. A few of them are lucky to get pass the gatekeepers and Personnel departments whose claim to fame is more about sexy bottom than top heavy intelligence. With access to tertiary education being delivered a heavy blow by the current administration, it is not surprising that inequalities of all kinds are re-entering post-Independence public discourse.

Incidentally, there will always be young persons having with the right connections that are more able to fit into the unstable job market and avoid means-testing. They eventually will join a callous and competitive workforce that has fallen to be under-productive. Sadly, and without addressing all of the related issues, the country is then told by employers that there is systemic ignorance abounding in Barbados. As W.E.B. Du Bois said many decades ago, “education must not simply teach work – it must teach life.” A responsible Barbados government must not pass the buck. Human Resources gurus have advised that there is lack of critical thinking skills entering the work arena. The public is reminded that acquiring a degree is no replacement for being able to use common sense.

Added to the conundrum negatively deflating the ‘Bajan’ ego is a shortage of information, especially the kind that is driven by research and hard localised data. The public is now at a stage where there is a serious rupture between the governing and the governed. There is low-level validity in relation to people’s expectations and facts on the deliverables. Hence, misinformation, propaganda, and partisan parading have risen to the forefront of policy confusion. Obtuse political factors are calling the tunes for Barbados’ splintered polity, and the apathy has further developed among the nation’s youth.

Barbadian youth are confronted with the denial of opportunity. This dynamic has to do with the selfishness evidenced from those that emerged in higher socio-economic brackets but forgot their starting points. In that regard, the pride and industry that stood for something positive and progressive, has recently dissipated with the politicians’ cleverness in saying ‘follow me, but do not ask questions’.

Traditionally, the Barbados experience has never been to turn a blind eye to the challenges that we face as a nation. Rather, the resilience that is reflected in our self-characterisation has always been about facing the challenges of the day while overcoming without need for wanton boast. Surely, the political, civic, and business leaders in Barbados ought to be doing more to pass the baton to our youth without disqualifying incident.

One clearly recalls the current administration producing a policy document – The National Youth Policy of Barbados (NYPB). The Minister of Family, Culture, Sports and Youth used a historical benchmark inclusive of the post-1937 social reforms, adult suffrage, the provision of free education, and the graduation of the country through attaining Independence in his ‘Preface’, to state that:

“At each of these critical turning points in the recent history of Barbados, the aspirations of young people to participate more fully in the important sectors of society and to enjoy a higher standard of living featured prominently in the deliberations and added a sense of urgency to the demands for change.”

Barbadian youth are demanding urgency, change, and opportunity once again. The present administration has failed to fully embrace the youth in the policy formulation and decision-making processes for national development. In fact, the same NYPB affirms that “the apparent preoccupation with deviant youth and the mistakes that a minority of young men and women make during the transition from childhood to adulthood, has cast a long shadow over youth development.” This condition has served as an impediment to the progressiveness of national youth.

Furthermore, there are gross misunderstandings and intergenerational fallout because of the overly zealous attitude of asserting outright control, instead of promoting critical thinking among our youth and people. These problematic areas give rise to social conflict, and must be immediately addressed. Interestingly, the NYPB asserted that “Caribbean societies have succeeded in reproducing themselves with all the punitive and enslaving historical baggage for which they are renowned.” The demands of today’s crop of youth are indicative of the quest for freedom within the context of rights, duties, obligations and responsibilities.

The social democratic character of Barbados is no better put than in the Barbados Constitution. Implicitly and explicitly, there is recognition that the Barbados Constitution affirms the citizens’ “belief that men and institutions remain free only when freedom is founded upon respect for moral and spiritual values and the rule of law.” To what extent is the current administration and by extension the political class in Barbados muzzling the voice of the citizen and the youth? Does the deteriorating situation in Barbados reveal the graft of political expediency and the craft of achieving acquiescence and authoritative control?

Moreover, there are many things occurring in Barbados that demand attention of the citizen and the critical thoughtfulness of our youth. Regrettably, critical thinking is hardly a formative part of primary and secondary education in Barbados. The outmoded form of knowledge transfer practiced in Barbados, is also causing hiccups at the tertiary levels. Incompetence is spilling over into the workplace and adult-oriented environments.

Ministers of government, for example, have now seeped themselves in a culture of excuses. The political class has literally and figuratively walked away from nation-building and moved to self-triumphalism. This shameful behaviour is contagious, to the extent that the country is hearing that managers in the public service have not been living up to the expectations commensurate with duties assigned. Think on these things because as John F. Kennedy once said: “Too often we … enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

(Dr. George C. Brathwaite is a part-time lecturer in Political Science at the UWI-Cave Hill Campus, a researcher and political consultant, and up until recently, he was editor of Caribbean Times (Antigua). Email: brathwaitegc@gmail.com )


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126 responses to “The George Brathwaite Column – Youth Being short-changed”

  1. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…,,,I thought that you would want to be compared to a white man and take him to Barbados as an investor…like Clare Cowan of Cahill scam.

    So you dont like Trump…so sue me.


  2. Creativity CANNOT BE TAUGHT.

    IT CAN ONLY BE NURTURED AND REQUIRES SOMEONE TO SEE IT.

    “South African Kiara Nirghin, 16, has won the grand prize at this year’s Google science fair for her project on developing a cheap super-absorbent material that can help soil retain water.”

    “After winning a competition against young people from around the world, Ms Nirghin was awarded with a $50,000 (£38,000) scholarship fund to help her with her education.”

    “Her work was a direct response the South Africa’s recent drought, one of the worst in the country’s history. Super-absorbent Polymers (SAPs) are available, but they are expensive and not biodegradable.”

    “Ms Nirghin set about trying to create an alternative, the Google science fair website says.”

    “She discovered that a mixture made from orange peel could be an effective substitute.”

    “She now hopes that this can help local farmers save both money and their crops.”

    Only white people understand how to nurture talent, we niggers do not have the mitochondrial makeup to facilitate such.

    I make no apology for that statement as a dispossessed son of these field and hills beyond recall that are NOT OUR VERY OWN


  3. @ Alvin
    BUSHIE;
    I AGREE WITH YOU
    +++++++++++++++++
    Cuh dear man…. how you could do that to Bushie….

    @ PLT
    You head good???!!
    What exactly ‘qualifies you to teach entrepreneurship?
    …is it the maxim that he who knows DOES ….and he who doesn’t TEACHES…?

    …and
    You have NO IDEA why that teacher did as she did. Your ‘conclusions’ are therefore pure sh***.
    One of Bushie’s favourite teachers was the one who got his ass caned most at school … probably framing everything that the bushman can currently brag about…. and without which, Bushie would probably be like you… 🙂

    The FACTS are simply …that school has seen phenomenal improvements in RESULTS in recent years under its current management.
    Unlike your shiite business ventures, we can judge them by their RESULTS.

  4. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Peter..they actualy have the nerve to call forcing a child to pick up garage thrown by someone else….discipline….no wonder the island is so filthy…the peope who actually do the littering are never forced to take responsibility for their actions.

    Now we see why the leaders blame everyone else for their own fckups, cockups, disasters.

  5. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Pachamama

    nakedness?? petticoat?? do you have a point?

  6. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Bush Tea

    I have both done entrepreneurship successfully and taught entrepreneurship productively. I teach because I don’t need any more money.

  7. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “Only white people understand how to nurture talent, we niggers do not have the mitochondrial makeup to facilitate such.”

    Africa has started to nurture it’s super talents and creativity, they have cokme to realize that these young black men and women, theur geniuses…are their futures.

    Tell that to the slaves in parliament.


  8. @ Piece
    Thank you.

    Bushie was waiting to see if PLT even knew that the very best teacher of creativity is called ‘NECESSITY’….. the mother of invention.

    Entrepreneurship is best learned when students are in positions where they are forced to fill a need. The bible puts it this way – “By the sweat of a man’s brow should he eat bread.”

    People like PLT who go into classrooms of highly pampered sissies, and spoon feed them with a lotta shiite talk ..and with various ‘easy loan options’ are responsible for the mendicant mindset that is endemic in the albino centric world.

    In the old days, at the right time, these youths were REQUIRED to earn their keep (and to pick up wrappers in the community) and very quickly became skilled craftsmen, supervisors and technical and management specialists….


  9. PLT
    You should teach because you have VALUE to impart….
    if you don’t need any more money go on a damn cruise …or give a donation to the Cancer society…

  10. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea
    The significant majority of the people I teach are driven by necessity. None of them are pampered sissies. I do very little talking, shite or otherwise. I show them hands on how to survive and prosper. There are no “easy loan options;” debt is shackles.

    Take a look at http://www.sebijm.com/ if you want to know what I do, because your guesses are wildly inaccurate.


  11. Bushie

    This writer did advance courses in entrepreneurship.

    This writer conducted seminars on entrepreneurship.

    We must admit that your are quite right.

    Attempts to teach entrepreneurship are destined to fail, to produce any business people with longevity.

    All the books about this subject are bare shiite.

    In fact, the real entrepreneurs are those who smell the shiite from far away and drop out.


  12. @ PLT
    Thanks for that link. Bushie has got it clearly now….

    It looks like the usual ‘USAID grant’ to poor desperate black people who have been victims of albino-centric exploitation and have been left destitute by the vultures of our world.
    We all know how this goes – US$ goes to consultants and people like you who play the game of providing fish to the hungry.

    Jamaica is, in Bushie’s book, the most beautiful and blessed island in the world. It is peopled with human giants for a people – a people that Mr Bolt has come to symbolise.
    That such a blessed country has reached the stage where it needs people like you … and handouts from USAID … in order to empower such people to do BASIC little businesses to feed themselves and their families speaks volumes about the philosophical foundation upon which your ‘entrepreneurship teachings’ are based.

    Anyway … you probably don’t want to know what Bushie thinks about USAID and their various programs…..

  13. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea

    I agree with you about USAID. I’m here to subvert their imperialist agenda. I take $0 for the work I do here.

    Do not disparage “BASIC little businesses to feed themselves and their families…” if these strategies can move large numbers of people from poverty to income security then I am all for it.


  14. …do you mean you are working for these imperialists FOR FREE?
    Wuh that is worse that taking the 20 pieces of silver…

    Black Jamaicans have now dominated the world of power athletics for a decade.
    Black Jamaicans drove changes in racism in London, USA, …everywhere they can be found..
    Black Jamaicans produced Marcus Garvey, Bob Marley….

    Do you not see the fallacy of USAID claiming to be ‘helping these poor people to survive’? …with your traitorous support? Don’t you see that Jamaicans – with the CORRECT GUIDANCE should be leading the world in entrepreneurship …as they do in music /sport/ righteous revolt?

    It is because people like you continue to promote the albino-centric philosophy that has enslaved their minds in the first place – and trapped them in poverty.

    Boss…you need to rebel and resign … and join the fight against selfishness, greed, spite and hate…. otherwise known as “entrepreneurship”…

  15. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Bush Tea Re “with the CORRECT GUIDANCE should be leading the world in entrepreneurship”

    Damn right! I provide the correct guidance. I’m working for Jamaicans for free, not USAID.

    My notion of entrepreneurship is about taking responsibility for one’s own destiny, not selfishness, greed, spite & hate.

  16. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/calls-for-barcelona-statue-of-christopher-columbus-to-be-removed-a7334666.html

    Even Barcelona is stepping into the 21st century…..away from HIS stories and lies.

    Barbados and the Caribbean need to get with the program, or be left behind.


  17. Some of you have been spouting from the nether region about the topic at hand with Alvin (ac) at the front.

    Critical thinking in the classroom is facilitated by a physical and intellectual environment that encourages a spirit of discovery. Regarding the physical layout of the classroom, two suggestions can be offered. First, if seating is arranged so that students share the "stage" with the teacher and all can see and interact with each other, this helps to minimize the passive, receptive mode many students adopt when all are facing the

    teacher. Second, visual aids in the classroom can encourage ongoing attention to critical thought processes, e.g., posting signs that say, "Why do I think that?" "Is it fact or opinion?" "How are these two things alike?" "What would happen if…?" Suggestions below each question can remind students how they should go about answering them. Most importantly, as the students move through the curriculum in a given subject, their attention can be directed periodically to the signs as appropriate. In this way, the signs emphasize the idea of transfer by showing that many of the same thinking strategies and skills apply to different topics and problems.

    Link: Strategies for Teaching Critical Thinking. ERIC/AE Digest

  18. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    There are many visual aids available to help with critical thinking skills…many.

    They have to be made available to the kids…some parents can afford them, many cannot..

    Many can be found online.

    There are computers in the schools….all schools should have them.


  19. @Peter Lawrence,
    ““…I am more important and powerful than you are and you must obey me.”…

    Why must you see it this way? Unless the young people learn that obeying is not subservience, they wii always have difficulties. They must learn to have dignity, even if they have to obey. The world outside the boundaries of Barbados do not try to distinguish. Your boss tells you to do something, you refuse, you pay a penalty. No argument.

  20. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “The reparations could come in a variety of forms, according to the panel, including “a formal apology, health initiatives, educational opportunities … psychological rehabilitation, technology transfer and financial support, and debt cancellation.”

    To be sure, such initiatives are nowhere in the cards, even after the question of reparations arose again two years ago when surfaced by the groundbreaking work of American journalist Ta-Nehisi Coates.

    READ MORE
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    Separately, a coalition of Caribbean nations is calling for reparations from their former European imperial powers for the impact of slavery, colonial genocide and the toxic racial laws that shaped life for the past two centuries in these countries. Their efforts are fitful, and so far not so fruitful.”

    I still do not believe money should be given in the form of reparations…not at all….but all the other suggestions are on point.

    Stay in their goddamn faces…they gptta give it up, it does not belong to them.

  21. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Alvin

    Obedience is subservience unless there are objective reasons behind the order. If those reasons cannot be demonstrated, it is completely subservience. Young people deserve better.

  22. Anonymouse - The Gazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – The Gazer

    Been watching the exchange between the Bush Master and PLT.
    Got to take my hat off to PLT for volunteering his time.
    Wondering if what he is doing in Jamaica could also be done in Barbados? And if so,Why is it not happening?


  23. @ The Gazer
    he said that he takes 0 $ for his work there….
    There are ‘volunteers’ who, when the various ‘benefits’ such as travel, reimbursements, housing, per diem etc are totalled don’t need any $… 🙂
    It is why ‘volunteer’ sports leaders stay around for decades….

    Jamaica has been under IMF control now for eons – with no end in sight….and suffering all the while….
    Does that tell you anything?
    Remember that these have always been proud, independent, assertive blacks of the ilk of the early Haitians…..
    Barbadians are completely opposite. We worship the oppressors. Are firm advocates of their albino-centric philosophy, and even maintain our own home-based set of oppressors to make us feel ‘at home’ in our subservience.

    Obviously they will promote us as ‘shining examples of development’ – punching ‘above our weight class’. The wont want to send PLT here…. yet.

    The problem is that this mendicant philosophy we have adopted, has produced a class of brass bowlery that, even when propped up by the ‘albino-centric powers-that-be’, falls flat on its face ..a la Froon and Stinkliar…

    …so PLT will be here in another few years….

  24. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Anonymouse – The Gazer Re “Wondering if what he is doing in Jamaica could also be done in Barbados?”
    Some of it is already happening, just on a smaller scale. I’m told that the Barbados Youth Business Trust does good work. http://www.youthbusiness.bb/

  25. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @peterlawrencethompson September 28, 2016 at 8:16 AM # re ”Recall earlier this year the Springer Memorial Principal ordered a student to pick up litter that neither of them had dropped. This is not a productive relationship of teacher to student; it is the relationship of master to slave.”

    That is a startlingly misguided statement.

    This topic of discipline has been discussed at length on these pages so I will simply say when you or I were boys and ANY headmaster/mistress had issued that directive we would have obeyed and moved on. There would be no concerns of master/slave or other emotive and incendiary rhetoric.

    That you evoke such in 2016 to address what was basically a simple matter of school discipline and ‘rules of engagement’ is unfortunate.

    Discipline still means obeying a directive. It still means accepting the hierarchy of teacher/student or employer/employee and parent/child. It still means completing the order and lodging any complaints via proper channels afterwards.

    Discipline in a school or in any modern societal structure has and should have ABSOLUTELY nothing in concert with a master/slave nexus. NOTHING.

  26. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea Re: “There are ‘volunteers’ who, when the various ‘benefits’ such as travel, reimbursements, housing, per diem etc are totalled don’t need any $…🙂”

    You are so right. The international development industry is configured by and for the donor nations. Not me though… I find that to understand a place I need to immerse myself in the local environment at the level of the average person… so, no car, no 1st world benefits or lifestyle.

    Re: “…so PLT will be here in another few years…”
    Actually, I think I’ll be back in Bim in 6 months. I have an idea for a business I’d like to start (#8). The main reason I spend time on BU is to educate myself about the local context in which I’ll be operating.

  27. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ Well Well & Consequences September 28, 2016 at 4:43 PM
    “I still do not believe money should be given in the form of reparations…not at all….but all the other suggestions are on point.”

    Couldn’t agree with you more!

    Reparations in the form of cash would only result in ‘dem’ white people laughing their heads off at niggers again!

    First of all, those European countries which benefited the most from slavery (Britain, France, Spain and Portugal) are themselves financial basket cases today and would not be able to raise that kind of money through taxation. But let us assume there were able to give some cash as hush money.

    Where do you think that money will end up in less than 5 years when those greedy corrupt black leaders get their grubby hands on it, if not in China, Korea and India?
    Barbados is the only country in the Caribbean which has a clear-cut unquestionable case for reparations in whichever form. It was never a pawn traded among warring European countries so the reparations bill belongs solely to Britain.

    The Slave Code of Barbados is legal evidence to show Barbados to be the perfect poster boy for the outright humiliation and exploitation of black people during slavery with no concessions offered as enshrined in the French counterpart, the Code Noir.

    But would these modern-day house niggers calling themselves leaders of the Barbadoes of over 1,000 brainwashed self-acclaimed legal luminaries be that mentally manumitted as to fight the case of reparations in light of the incontrovertible evidence in their possession?

    Would they be that brave to present the Prince Harry Charming in his upcoming visit to Little England with a demand note for payment of reparations at least equivalent in today’s money to what was awarded to the slave owners under the 1833 Abolition Act?

    How this compensation is made could be subsequently agreed upon like annual full
    scholarships for only black children (the descendants of slaves) to prestigious British universities and top technical training colleges for the next 50 years.


  28. THE AMBULANCE SERVICE’S 511 number is out of service, reportedly due to a power outage.

    People with emergencies should call 426-0015.


  29. @ Dribbler
    Excellent contribution @ 6.49 PM.

    @ PLT
    So let Bushie get this straight…
    You have all the money you need.
    You volunteered to work for USAID in Jamaica …for No salary or perks…
    But you are really a ‘rebel’ who see past the USAID scams, and want to help the poor natives
    You plan to start a new business in Barbados shortly… so BU is your research platform.

    Boss, you are clearly an enigma wrapped in a mystery….
    Either that or you are running real hard …from something….

  30. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @de pedantic Dribbler Re “Discipline in a school or in any modern societal structure has and should have ABSOLUTELY nothing in concert with a master/slave nexus.”

    This is EXACTLY my point! If “discipline” is based on nothing more than hierarchy it simply replicates the master/slave relationship. Discipline MUST be based on reason. Otherwise it is destructive and fraudulent. Authority must be earned; it isn’t something you put on with a uniform or a title.

    Re:”when you or I were boys and ANY headmaster/mistress had issued that directive we would have obeyed and moved on.”

    This is not so in my case at all. Headmaster “Tank” Williams and I had serious discussions about rules when I was in third form and he didn’t like the length of my afro. I did not accept anything but reason, and he was wise enough to reason with me. He began by giving me an order to get my hair cut, but we came to an agreement that my afro had to be impeccably groomed at all times while I wore the school uniform, and he had the authority to drag a comb through it with whatever strength he could muster at any point of the day that he saw me in order to verify that it was adequately groomed. I still had one of the biggest afros on Crumpton St., but it was very tidy and well groomed. I was a smart-ass 13 year old who thought he had argued the headmaster into compromise, but really he was simply teaching me an invaluable lesson in taking immense pride in how I presented myself to the world. Tank and I had many disagreements, but he was no fool. He wielded authority because he earned it.


  31. @ peterlawrencethompson,

    Is there anyone else who can corroborate you showdown with Tank?

  32. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Bush Tea Re: “Boss, you are clearly an enigma wrapped in a mystery…”

    Nope. what you see is what you get… real name, real ideas, real photo, real smart-ass attitude.

    Re: “…you are running real hard …from something…”

    Now here you show a streak of real wisdom. Like all of us I am running from a ticking clock. I am 60 years old and have raised two brilliant sons. Now I want to see what else I can contribute in the time that is left to me. That gives me about 20 years to help make positive change in the Caribbean.

  33. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Hants Re: “Is there anyone else who can corroborate you showdown with Tank?”

    It wasn’t a showdown. There were no raised voices. I called him “sir” and said or did nothing disrespectful. We were outside the hall next to the “octagonal thing” after morning assembly and I think Tank found it a little amusing. No-one else was part of our conversation, but there are dozens of schoolmates who can corroborate the length of my afro in those days.

  34. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Peter, good on you re the compromise with Tank. Now tell me sir, do you believe that he conducted that one-on-one discipline with all the students.

    You were a ‘smart ass’ and he indulged you either as per your analysis or for other solid reasons.

    I am sure that he also sent home or otherwise handled other students differently for the same issue, and I base that comment simply on my awareness of how others of his ilk operated. I did not go to Crumpton St. but I know there were smart asses at my school and *** and then *** after him were just as wise as Mr Williams in handling situations on their merit. But they demanded an overall discipline based on the respect of teacher/student…an ‘esprit de corps’ if you will.

    With respect but ‘respect’ was expected from student to teacher.

    I am a quite confounded by your concept of earned respect re the teachers. I may have missed something there bro.


  35. @Miller
    “How this compensation is made could be subsequently agreed upon like annual full
    scholarships for only black children (the descendants of slaves) to prestigious British universities and top technical training colleges for the next 50 years.”

    Good idea in the first place, but: We already have Rhodes and Pegasus scholarships in Barbados. Look at our politicians (the older generation), look at CJ Marston Gibson. They received scholarships, but did not – for some reason – benefit at all. Those studying abroad do not learn WHY their host countries do better than the rest of the world. They come back, want to implement social welfare, want to buy Mercedes and big villas, but do not understand that a society must be based on disciplin, hard work, high work ethic, transparency and so on and not on bribes, crime, liming, excuses, “gifts” before elections and so on.

    If compensation would end directly in the hands of Caribbean governments, it is easy to imagine what would happen: The masses would receive zero. The establishment would use up all the money for Disneyland, shopping in NYC, Mercedes and villas abroad.

  36. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ de pedantic Dribbler

    It’s good on Tank, not good on me. I do not doubt that I got special treatment because I was from “good family.” However, if a teacher cannot outsmart even the smart-ass students then they have no business being a teacher.

    The ONLY sustainable leadership, even in a school context, is to gain the trust and consent of those being led.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    “How this compensation is made could be subsequently agreed upon like annual full
    scholarships for only black children (the descendants of slaves) to prestigious British universities and top technical training colleges for the next 50 years.”

    I am with you Miller…all the way.

    Now that the UN has made a decision that US Blacks are entitled to reparations for decades of human rights violations….it paves the way to putporessure on the UK to give back what they stole from black bajans…black Caribbean people.

    They used to play tag with the islands..the French had St. Lucia, Grenada, etc shortly sfter that ya hear the british had St. Lucia, Grenada…they did crap using brutality and force.

    No one cares if they are broke, they all had a centuries long run to be greedy, brutal and uncaring,

    The educational programs are available, the information is available, the universties are available…debt forgiveness is availabke ALL THE TIME.

    ya cannot give those slaves in parliament any money in reparations…they will start by eating themselves to death…then waste the money on crap.

    If they want to spite them, they would give them money…but they can’t. .they dont have enough….lol

  38. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Now that the UN has made a decision that US Blacks are entitled to reparations for CENTURIES of human rights violations……by the US.

  39. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @Tron Re: “… do not learn WHY their host countries do better than the rest of the world.”

    One of the problems with answering this question is that the host countries construct and teach elaborate lies about why they have done better. For instance the UK tries to pretend that their global success and wealth was based on “on discipline, hard work, high work ethic, transparency” etc. This is utter nonsense however. The UK’s wealth and empire was built on corruption, slavery and war. This is a country who went to war with China for the “right” to be opium pushers in defiance of Chinese drug laws for god’s sake.

    Don’t get me wrong; we need discipline, hard work, high work ethic, transparency etc., but to think we can learn these things from the UK example is a cruel, cruel joke.


  40. PLT — The Misguided Man
    Your experience in the metropolitan countries seems to have ruined your judgment, not just about a few things, but about nearly everything.
    Leadership must be based on trust and consent? A fine thought and a worthy ideal, but hardly one that can work reliably in any society that needs stability
    Consider the case of Comrade Maurice Bishop. Spent years in Grenada talking to the youth. Built an island-wide following by engaging people one conversation at a time. Everybody agrees he was an affable guy. Smart enough to be a lawyer, but always friendly and hugely popular with the ladies.

    Need I remind you how his life ended? How some of the young men he mentored put him and his closest friends up against a wall?

    Leadership cannot just be based on consent, because human relationships are not stable and usually do not last very long. Comprende?

  41. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @chad99999 Re: “some of the young men he mentored put him and his closest friends up against a wall”

    You are wrong. None of the people he had mentored turned against him. Academics with PhDs pretending to be revolutionaries are the ones who betrayed him. I comprende very well. “Human relationships are not stable” (bingo) which is why we need structures of law based on reason. Anything based on an arbitrary hierarchy of humans (the ones whos relationships are not stable) is therefore doomed to dysfunction.

    So it’s not just a fine thought and a worthy ideal, it’s actually the ONLY thing “that can work reliably in any society that needs stability,” because as you have pointed out “Human relationships are not stable.” Structures of law based on reason can be stable.


  42. @ Peter.

    It is true you had one of the finest Afros at College but while you speak of that conversation with Tank with the smelly chalk, you do a serious disservice to the fact that as a negro at Crumpton Street, your father s currency gave you a privilege that other black boys DID NOT HAVE.

    YOu did have the gift of gab but it was who daddy was that Albert Williams deferred to, not you eloquence.

    Fellow’s like you and Bannister and others floated on the fumes of black parents whom the not white but not black Williams did not terrorize to the degree that others were crushed and made examples of and whose Afros were bigger too. Lol


  43. @peterlawrencethompson

    Agreed with your differentation.

    UK would be the perfect case for reparation. BUT: We must make sure that the masses get the compensation, not the members of the local establishment enriching themselves.

    After Germany paid 50 billions to the Jews, Britain should do the same.


  44. @ peterlawrencethompson,

    I remember a Thompson whose father was a maguffee at Imperial optical.

    That Thompson was a very pleasant fellow.

  45. peterlawrencethompson Avatar
    peterlawrencethompson

    @ Hants
    That’s me


  46. @ peterlawrencethompson,

    Did you have an older brother at Kolij ?

    I am 64 and you say you are 60.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Tron..no money fio reparations Tron…I could already see the Bizzys, Cows, Maloneys, Bjerkhams, Harris, Parris et al lining up with their scams and the slaves in parliament all ready to disenfranchise their own people…again.

    Education….organized by the UK for 2 or 3 generations of black children, young people….the descendants of slaves….there is ancestry dna and a slew of others can define your DNA to the exact region your ancestors originated thousands of years ago….it cant be faked…African descendants have distict marķers….

    Debt cancellation.. ….wipe out all debt, clean start, fresh slate, let see the politicuans screwing that up again.

    Health initiatives

    Psychological rehabilitation

    Technological Transfer

    I still believe all the stolen history and infomation on Africa should be returned, it exists…it’s not theirs, return it to the descendants of African slaves….the rightful owners.

  48. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    Funny how some revere Tank
    Was one of those poor black boys from up North.
    Not in any social circle.
    Thought Tank was a terror.

  49. Anonymouse - TheGazer Avatar
    Anonymouse – TheGazer

    60 also…. trying to remember that afro…
    They were two Thompsons, both a little older and one was his brother…..

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