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Lane Graves

One of the claims made by Disney World in Florida is that it is the โ€œhappiest place on Earthโ€. Of course, it would be difficult to convince the Graves family of Nebraska of the merits of this claim after the incident last week in which they lost their two-year-old son, Lane, after he was attacked and drowned by an alligator as he waded knee-deep in a shallow lagoon outside the familyโ€™s resort rental. The entire episode raises a number of intriguing legal issues and supplies a test case for students of the law as to the extent of an occupierโ€™s liability in negligence towards its lawful visitors.

I readily concede that there is arguably much other fodder for the columnist this weekend. The surprising criticism of the United States Embassy in Kingston by the Jamaica Attorney General for its decision to fly the rainbow flag, most used by the LBGTI community, in sympathy with the victims of the mass shooting in Orlando early Sunday morning; the unsuccessful attempt of Mr. Maurice Tomlinson, a self โ€“titled homosexual and LBGTI activist, to persuade the Caribbean Court of Justice that similar provisions in the Immigration Acts of Belize and Trinidad & Tobago deeming homosexuals as prohibited immigrants served to deny him his freedom as a CARICOM national to enter and remain in another member state for a period of six months unless excluded for other stipulated reasons; and the ongoing standoff between a local entrepreneur and my primary school classmate, now Chief Town Planner, Mr Mark Cummins, might all have provided ample material for this hebdomadal (!) essay. However, perhaps as a coda to my effort last month, โ€œThe Gorilla and the Boyโ€, I prefer today to explore the legal intricacies of the boy and the alligator.

It is at least remarkable how frequently art seems to imitate life. Just last April, in the examination for first year students of the Law of Torts, I posed a scenario where there was the need to determine whether an occupier had sufficiently complied with her duties towards another by the mere placement of a sign which stated โ€œWatch your stepโ€ in a circumstance where her lawn had been left slippery with oil and where, as a result, the visitor naturally slipped, fell, and injured himself. Now, in the Disney World incident, a significant consideration will be whether a sign that merely enjoined โ€œswimmingโ€ was adequate to protect against the rare, though not unlikely, actuality of an alligator attack. The issue is also relevant to the Barbadian occupier of premises, though, of course, the incidence of an attack by an alligator here may be a โ€œfantastic possibilityโ€ rather than the โ€œreasonable probabilityโ€ that ought reasonably to be guarded against by an advertent occupier.

Nevertheless, section 4(5) of the Barbados Occupiers Liability Act , Cap 208 provides-

โ€œWhere damage is caused to a visitor by a danger of which he had been warned by the occupier, the warning is not to be treated without more as absolving the occupier from liability, unless in all the circumstances it was enough to enable the visitor to be reasonably safeโ€. (Emphasis added)

Clearly, it may be argued that a sign which simply seeks to forbid swimming is insufficient to enable a visitor to be reasonably safe where there is a not remote probability of the presence of alligators that, as I argued with the gorilla previously, are treated as ferae naturae or wild by nature. In consequence, it is not humanly possible to predict their behaviour, especially in a situation where the distinction between a small child and prey for the evening meal would be a difficult one for the beast immediately to draw.

Nor should it matter that the animal is not owned or controlled by the occupier of the property here. The presence of the alligator presents a danger that might have been foreclosed by the resort complying with its duty qua occupier โ€œto take such care as in all the circumstances of the case is reasonable to see that the visitor will be reasonably safe in using the premises for the purposes for which he is permitted by the occupier to be thereโ€.

Other legal issues may also arise- Did the father take as much care for the safety of the child in the circumstances as a reasonably diligent parent should have? Or should he be treated as having been contributorily negligent? In other words, did he, by permitting the child to wade in the water at that time, contribute to the happening of the tragedy or was the event so objectively unforeseeable that no blame at all should be attributed to him?

Indeed, he himself might have a claim against the resort. There is no doubt that he would have been seriously traumatized by the chain of events, especially after having failed to pry his son loose from the steely grip of the alligator and watching in horror as it swam away with the child in its jaws towards one certain horrific outcome.

If the negligence of the resort may be established as well as the medical proof of some psychiatric injury having been caused to the father thereby, it would be highly likely that the father may recover substantial compensation for the psychological effects of the incident on him as a secondary victim who would have shared close ties of love and affection with his son and who, with his own unaided senses, would have witnessed the particularly horrifying event as it must have been.

News in recent days is to the effect that Disney is now attempting to change the signs around the lagoons to warn of the likely presence of alligators. In light of the above, this is scarcely surprising and may serve as a subtle concession of liability.

Thing is, it comes almost a week too late for little Lane Graves.


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192 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – Tragedy in the Magic Kingdom”


  1. @JC
    I readily concede that there is arguably much other fodder for the columnist this weekend
    +++++++++++
    Are you anticipating some blowback? Great white flag moment there, I think that most columnists would be delighted with so much grist for the mill and you didnโ€™t even mention the murder of the MP and the upcoming Euro vote.


  2. Jeff

    We welcome your efforts to removed the veil from the law. Present the law as a living, breathing, organism, which we must engage daily – in all acts, omissions.

    For too long these issues were considered rarefied air not for the many.

    How else can unsuspecting citizens bring viable cases to legal professionals with a fair certainty of prevailing in the courts unless one has enough knowledge to influence events as potential cases ‘evolve’.

    We have never gotten the impression that the English Common Law cared to much about losses form psychological impacts. In fact, most of the substantial claims we know about emerge from the USA, though legal principles have similarities and come from the same root.

    The ‘Common’ People should know the Common Law and the nonsense that only a narrow selection of people are to be the only ones so versed, a nullity.


  3. Accidents happen, but Disney was aware that there were Alligators in that โ€œLakeโ€ and they had previously cleared juvenile Gators from that body of water and itโ€™s nigh impossible to keep them out anyway, so the warning should have been more extensive.

    Talking about accidents in TO this weekend a man was relaxing under a tree in a Park with his wife enjoying the good weather when a Branch broke off, fell and killed him. The City claims the Tree was healthy and the break was unexpected, the woman pregnant and husband gone โ€ฆโ€ฆ.
    Wuhloss, wuhloss

    https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2016/06/18/arborist-furious-over-city-tree-inspections.html


  4. Pachaman

    We have never gotten the impression that the English Common Law cared to much about losses form psychological impacts. In fact, most of the substantial claims we know about emerge from the USA, though legal principles have similarities and come from the same root.
    /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
    very profound but true which brings to mind the psychological damages done to blacks from slavery which is still evident but never seems to be influential as good reasoning in the calls for reparations


  5. @Sargeant

    The world of public liability and Tort Law, ensures we will have these types of cases until humankind ceases to exist. Let us be honest, the issue of service providers 100% honoring the tenet of duty of care will always be tested – some cases will be clear cut others will be tested. It is how we exist!

  6. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @Jeff C:
    โ€œIf the negligence of the resort may be established as well as the medical proof of some psychiatric injury having been caused to the father thereby, it would be highly likely that the father may recover substantial compensation for the psychological effects of the incident on him as a secondary victim who would have shared close ties of love and affection with his son and who, with his own unaided senses, would have witnessed the particularly horrifying event as it must have beenโ€ฆโ€

    It would be most enlightening if you could, kind of, โ€˜indigenizeโ€™ the above scenario by telling us about the legalโ€™ rights and responsibilities of the woman who lost her son in a tragic situation on the ABC highway involving the illegal erection of a major hazard and the erector’s blatant refusal to comply with an order for its removal.

    Does that parent who also witnessed the unfortunate death of her son have recourse under the law, Torts or otherwise?

    Remember Jeff, it is the primary school ties that bind the tightest. And given your scholastic achievement we should expect similar technical knowledge and competence from your old classmate as the basis for issuing such orders for the removal of such an illegally erected mini promontory that has been tested and proven to be a deadly hazard.


  7. which brings to mind the long term psychological effect on the parents and the child who fell in the gorilla pit are these effect not attributed and similar in nature directly to cause or circumstance then if so why is the later accident given more of a consideration and or recommended for compensation than the other


  8. Hebdomadal is a rare and curious term describing a basic concept: the calendar week. The noun hebdomad (referring to a group of seven or a period of seven days) derives from Greek hepta, meaning “seven;” that root also gave us “heptathlon,” an Olympic event consisting of seven events.

    Thanks Jeff for another word I can use to impress. lol


  9. Jeff,
    To whom is the sign directed; those who can read or those for whom others are responsible? The parents have the responsibility, but the law refers to the responsibility of “the visitor”. Is the son; in the eyes of the law, the visitor or the father?

  10. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Jeff, as a layman consumer of the law and life’s logic and thus like all other citizens therefore expected to possibly sit in judgement on my fellow-citizen as a juror I am always amazed by this thing you teach and practice called ‘the law’.

    You said above: The presence of the alligator presents a danger that might have been foreclosed by the resort complying with its duty qua occupier โ€œto take such care as in all the circumstances of the case is reasonable to see that the visitor will be reasonably safe in using the premises for the purposes for which he is permitted by the occupier to be thereโ€.

    Another blogger @Sargeant noted that “they had previously cleared juvenile Gators from that body of water and itโ€™s nigh impossible to keep them out anyway, so the warning should have been more extensive”.

    As a juror there appears to be a significant dichotomy between those two states of reality – the ‘duty qua occupier’ and the ‘ it’s nigh impossible to keep them away’.

    These legal games are amusing only when we can ALL get up and go home after play has ended.

    To your point, why under law is it practicable for a corporation to construct an impressive edifice with enticing lagoon beaches and NOT be expected to provide adequate protections so that it was NOT impossible to keep alligators away.

    This just does not make any practical sense to me.

    Again as a juror I would be sitting there saying to myself: I grew up watching Jacques Cousteau doing dramatic stuff in the seas and lakes around the world with all sorts of paraphernalia.

    And I have seen instances where water ways have been ‘naturally’ blocked to prevent the intrusion of predators so how could this corporation with business around the globe and which goes back to Jacques Costeau and beyond, and with hundreds of skilled engineers not appreciate ways to keep their guests absolutely safe from alligators – while at the same time giving them the thrill of being close to these beasts of nature.

    Boy, would I vote guilty against the corp as a juror on this non-existent case.

  11. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @AC, yesterday I did my blogger’s rant re the unfortunate and unnecessary use of race in issues where it should NOT be included. You are either being facetious or are clueless to insert the argument : at 8:47 AM to wit “….which brings to mind the long term psychological effect on the parents and the child who fell in the gorilla pit are these effect not attributed and similar in nature directly to cause or circumstance then if so why is the later accident given more of a consideration and or recommended for compensation than the other:.

    That is the query of a person who dismisses a lot of facts to stretch a tenuous legal point.

    Are you suggesting that a mother who loses control of her son for a few brief but eventful moments and that son them scammers through a foliage ‘barrier’ climbs a fence ‘barrier’ and then tumbles several feet into an enclosure occupied by a Gorilla has the same weight as the Disney scenario – which is so diametrically different.

    Why can’t you look at these dispassionately and dismiss the issue that there must be
    some racial subtext driving the ‘real honest’ narrative.

    Or is that a quality (dispassionate analysis) not allowed in your profession?

  12. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Well Well & Consequences June 17, 2016 at 6:06 PM #

    http://ow.ly/Nn77301nJOW

    Too late, too late.

    Well Well & Consequences June 17, 2016 at 6:12 PM #
    Now we get the signage about the alligators and hear about the SNAKESโ€ฆin the same water at Disney..lol

    Lawsuit, lawsuit.


  13. To add to Miller’s associating the accident at the egress at Coverley on the ABC and is there scope for a citizen advocacy group to litigate?

    Jeff the challenge for us is how do we leverage recent events outside to improve the local environment.

    โ€œWhere damage is caused to a visitor by a danger of which he had been warned by the occupier, the warning is not to be treated without more as absolving the occupier from liability, unless in all the circumstances it was enough to enable the visitor to be reasonably safeโ€. (Emphasis added)

  14. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I will play devils advocate and say again…child leashes are sold all across the US, no small child should be wandering around in any open spaces in the US…it is a pit for pedophiles and other dangers that parents are well aware exists….like careless and negligent disney not alerting their millions of visitors to the presence alligators and snakes in their manmade lakes..

  15. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Maloney’s action was malicious, deliberate and dangerous, because he knows about the sloth in the court system and depended on that to not be penalized for erecting a dangerous obstruction…for that he should be arrested for criminal mischief and the death of the child…due to his deliberate actions.


  16. Well as far as being judge and juror the public sentiment and outpouring of shock and horror because of the child’s death has already sent a defiant message which has been sealed and handed down stating that Disney is responsible and most likely one to which Disney would concede ,
    However what i am witnessing is a difference in approach to how the this accident has been structured to distance the parents of any culpability due to negligence on any of there part a structuring in difference as was the case in he accident in which the child fell in the gorilla pit
    From my observation no pictures have surfaced detailing or showing that there are areas of dangers where parents should show special attention for the safety of their child while at the zoo Nor where there any signs posting stating that areas of fencing surrounding animals are not adequately protected,
    Yet the negative reaction for negligence was loud and clear sending a message to these parents that they have no right or basis for compensation . To me there is something not quite right or offensive when placed alongside the two similar circumstances due to circumstances and cause when one parent can be judged as negligent and the other parents can be given the green light on negligence

    http://www.singaporenews.sg/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/1398503-thumb.jpg


  17. @ac
    Before I lose the sunday morning feeling…..

    Seems as if you are going through some changes
    (1) Being paid by the word and (2) a posting that made sense (to me)
    Here watching a Sherlock Holmes movie and my powers of deductions have risen to the occasion…
    You hae loosen the weave before making the above post


  18. De pandetic

    You must be aware that the jury is complied of differences of people supported with differing cultures and experiences
    i am supporting a theory which goes to experience and culture .Now i believe that if the gorilla incident was held before an a;ll white jury or even a mixed jury they parents would lose even with the evidence showing all the failures at the zoo towards safety due to a mindset that give rise or perception that blacks are negligent and irresponsible ,
    However in the accident of the Disney the same principles if applied to the parents actions in allowing the child to enter the water would be dismissed by not only by a white jury but also a mixed jury without even given as much as a pause or a consideration of what the parents role would have caused in the childs death a mindset which still permeates culturally that whites are responsible and blacks are not


  19. Steupsss
    Shit happens!

    Trying to apply the ‘Law’ to rationalise these events is nothing but an exercise in diversion.
    The only country to really attempt to do so, is Dribblers beloved Canada – where there are so many signs in English and French, warning of so much petty shiite, that practically no one pays any attention to any of it.

    If Disney was in Canada, we would now see signs saying (in French, English, Sign language and Braille):
    No swimming
    No wading
    No diving
    No splashing
    No strolling near the water
    In the event of a hurricane, do not sit by the lake
    Watch out for snakes
    Do not play with them
    Do not attack them
    Do not feed them
    Watch out for mosquitoes
    If pregnant, always wear a hijab when outdoors
    If wearing a hijab and pregnant, carry a sign saying ‘NO BELT BOMB’
    Careful, path slippery when wet (surprise, surprise)

    Bushie would install only one sign.
    “If you know that you are a jackass, look and see what others do…and especially DON’T do.”

    @ Jeff
    All this just to avoid the Baloney shiite? ๐Ÿ™‚


  20. which also brings me back to my original redress by stating that blacks have yet to be compensated for physical and psychological damage done to them due to no cause or circumstances of their own but which in in part due to their cultural makeup and race and as of yet the outpouring of disdain due to negligence done to blacks has been a silence voice heard from whites who had a significant role in circumstance and role and cause

  21. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac June 19, 2016 at 9:41 AM

    So ac (which ever member of the consortium of the purveyors of gobbledygook and redundant poppycock), who then should be held NEGLIGENT for the death of the local โ€œrastaโ€ boy at the MM paradise island of the grim reaper?
    Whose life is โ€˜moreโ€™ valuable in your blinkered eyes? That of a wannabe Aryan boy, a black American ghetto kid from the hood or a Bajan rasta child who could be purposely mistaken by the likes of Maloney for a juvenile gorilla?

    Btw, I like your picture. I can see the striking similarity in the dominant family gene. Just hope they donโ€™t share your microscopic brain of the political yard-fowl.

  22. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    RE Bushie would install only one sign.
    โ€œIf you know that you are a jackass, look and see what others doโ€ฆand especially DONโ€™T do.โ€

    I AGREE WITH THIS SIGN 100%

    WORSE THAN ALLIGATORS IN A POND IS THE THOUGHT THAT THE PEDANTIC BULLSHITTER WOULD EVER BE ELECTED TO SIT ON A JURY
    NOW THAT IS A SERIOUS HORROR TO COMTEMPLATE BOTH FOR THE FELLOW JURORS AND THE ACCUSED

    DEAR LORD LET IT NEVER BE SO

  23. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    My apologies to “the BU family” for coming on so late this morning. I shall try to respond to the questions that have been posed.

    @Miller at 8.42 am -Of course if negligence on the part of the entity responsible for the”promontory” as you put it, can be established, the mother should have a plausible claim for psychological injury. Of course, she would have to establish that the accident was reasonably foreseeable and not avoidable by the exercise of reasonable care on her part.

    There might, however, be a consideration by the court of whether public policy should permit a claim for psychiatric injury by a mother who is to be held responsible for the accident if negligence on her part is established. A fireman father could recover nothing when he responded to an accident caused by his son and suffered a psychiatric injury as a result.

    @Hants at 9:02am -You may even substitute “sennightly ” to be more impressive.

    @ Alvin at 9:04 am -The sign is directed to those whom the law presumes to be literate -almost every adult.

    @Bush Tea at 9.58 am- Huh? I hold no brief for either side in the matter…hence the light in my study cannot be turned on in the wee hours for me to write a legal analysis of that incident! Are you willing to brief me on it? And the law does not rationalize, it simply operates to allocate losses ex post facto (once the event has occurred).


  24. So miller since all seems to be on the same page of responsibility and ownership who then should be responsible for the Arch Cot murders /death
    You guys like to rub a lot quickly forgetting your failures and owner ships


  25. How long did we have to wait for the partisan political BS to enter the discussion.

    #JA


  26. David sorry to have rattled your cage but my last comment was directed to Those Whom It May Concern ..those of the yardfowl persuasion.nevertheless i feel no guilt in response as most of my comments were responding to the article content

  27. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    DAVID PLEASE KINDLY DEFINE “partisan political BS to enter the discussion.” MURDAH

  28. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Jeff Cumberbatch June 19, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    What about the ‘fact’ that the “accident” occurred at a location where an unapproved structure is erected and could have contributed to the cause of that same accident?

    Isn’t the refusal to remove the illegally erected structure prior and after the accident a blatant case of going against public policy?

    Who then should be held liable for such ‘contributory ‘ negligence in death of the child?
    We know you may not wish to go there. This is incestuous Barbados with all its social and economic implications in the form of advertising dollars, directorships and chairmanships.

  29. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    No, Miller, it is simply a legal issue, so after nearly forty years in that field, I am not afraid to “go there”. I am afraid that “could have contributed” is not enough to establish causation…it has be a “material” or significant contribution to merit consideration.

  30. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Miller….it’s best to leave the AC pimps to exhaust themselves with that stupidity which bears no relation to the subject matter.

    WARNING: DO NOT ENTERTAIN THE AC PIMPS.

    lol


  31. @ Miller
    Of course you are right.
    In a case where the relevant LEGAL authorities have condemned a structure, and ordered its removal; and where that order has been ignored; and where, subsequently, an accident occurred causing the life of a child; ANY JACKASS (including the low-rate type that typically constitutes the Bajan lawyer) can see the obvious culpability.

    There can be NO comparison of this with an alligator causing a drowning in a case where such an even have not occurred in recent memory; where ‘No swimming’ signs were in place; and where no arrangements were in place to encourage visitors to enter the water in the first place.

    The difference is that in Barbados, White people, and certain ‘connected’ blacks, are NOT subjected to the law. They can even shoot their own children without sanction ….and we have the Jonesing shiite threatening senior teachers about even touching the lotta vagabonds they are expected to supervise.
    We have a woman abducted and murdered – with strong evidence of ‘connected’ person’s involvement – and not a shiite is done…

    ….and Jeff is writing esoteric bull about Disney and their travails….
    But then, the Law is an ass, so we probably have suitable lawyers.

  32. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    So Jeff…that little cretin Maloney, knowingly building a dangerous obstruction to motorists…….is not causation enough for criminal charges, despite the authorities repeatedly demanding he remove the obstruction….and despite him being criminal pursued by authorities for the illegal building on spring garden….which has not yet caused the death of anyone.

    So in addition to not having a real court ststem in Barbados, there are also no real laws to prevent or penalize criminality practiced by business people.

    Ya think real, honest investors would want to put their money in such a shit system…well think again, ya will only attract the likeminded criminals like Maloney, Harris et al…who are already aware that there are no real laws to stop their criminal actions against the island, people and the very weak government itself…..serves yall right.

  33. Jeff Cumberbatch Avatar
    Jeff Cumberbatch

    WW& C, you realize of course that whatever may be the views of others, the only one that matters for criminal prosecution is that of the office of the DPP? My discussion is restricted to CIVIL liability only.


  34. @ Felicia Holder Mother of the late Abijah Ijestic Holder-Phillips

    Were any of your tires damaged during the accident that claimed the life of Abijah?

    I ask that because a person indicated that you might have heard what sounded like a defective tyre and sought to bring your vehicle to a pause on the ABC highway on the shoulder of the road.

    It becomes clearly evident why you encountered what was a “promontory” that obstructed your safe egress from the highway.

    This is clearly evidenced in the photograph below.

    Might I advise that you do the following

    (a).secure the services of Brooks Photography or other professional entity and
    (b).a caring architect the first to take photographs of the Death Island at Coverley, from multiple angles.

    These photographs you will have Notarized by a respected Justice of the Peace as being the pictures of the state of the roadway at time “x”.

    The architectural drawings by a reputable Architect, one who will swear in a court of law that said drawings are exact surveyed GPS coordinates of the Death Island, will further substantiate that these are the drawings of the area where your son Abijah lost his life.

    DO THIS QUICKLY BECAUSE THEY PLAN TO MOVE THE ISLAND SOON

    Notwithstanding their intent to shift the “Death Island” you need not be too concerned if they try to move the evidence at the scene of the crime since the jury will not be able to ignore the destruction of this salient piece of incriminatory evidence

    https://i.imgur.com/ZEy1V3fl.jpg?2 (My thanks to Colonel Buggy)


  35. @PUDRYR

    Why you don’t give her a call and solicit a status report?

    Some people on this blog must appreciate the island where an enforcement is stated to be in place is not now a Maloney issue, it is up to the authorities to act.


  36. @ Well Well and Consequences, The Sage Miller and my Chief Master of Arms Bush Tea

    I dont know how many of us really hear what Jeff Cumberbatch does be saying though.

    Let de ole man try to interpret what my simple self does be hearing and what caused me to publish that notice to Felicia Holder earlier.

    It is de ole man hope that anyone here reading, who knows her, might advise her to harken.

    But to Mr. Cumberbatch.

    Statement 1: “…I am not afraid to โ€œgo thereโ€…”

    Unlike the rest of the rabble, AS I JEFF CUMBERBATCH prove every week when I come here to Rumble in the BU Jungle, I am not afraid to comment, or represent, any case that has merit

    Statement 2: “I am afraid that โ€œcould have contributedโ€ is not enough to establish causationโ€ฆit has be a โ€œmaterialโ€ or significant contribution to merit consideration.”

    This is a megaphone holler at people reading the post.

    Significant – ” great or important to be worthy of attention; noteworthy. e.g. “a significant increase in sales” Synonyms: notable, noteworthy, worthy of attention, remarkable, important, of importance, of consequence,

    In short, if a case were to be brought, one only has to show that there is a significant contribution to merit consideration.

    And finally, as clear as daylight

    Statement 3: “…the only one that matters for criminal prosecution is that of the office of the DPP? My discussion is restricted to CIVIL liability only…”

    Criminal Prosecution is for our Guyanese Director of Public Prosecutions Leaky Cock. or another. De ole man is a layman so i ent know how this other procedure could be engaged, maybe through the Ombudsman, or the Chief Town Planner’s Office, my ingrunt self dont know but his question mark suggest such.

    Finally, while not written, what is coming out between the lines is, as big as a breadfruit.

    Jeff Cumberbatch says that while the DPP is shirking? there seems to be civil recourse available to the aggrieved party or one with a locus in the matter


  37. @GP

    It is a higher form of BS.

    Do we have brains to reason based on what is before us?

    What kind of debate is one where Commenter A attacks an issue based on ‘the government messed up and needs to do better or be held accountable’ and enter Commenter B – but the BLP did so and so.

    #jesustakethewheelman!

  38. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Jeff…nobody takes the office of the DPP seriously…just last week the little runt went into Justice Beckles’ courtroom and tried to intimidate her and have her removed from his case as a defendant, because he dont want to answer for his dirty, corrupt deeds.

    Yall need a real DPP, as it stands ya have shit for a DPPs office.

  39. Georgie Porgie Avatar

    DAVID
    RE Do we have brains to reason based on what is before us?
    FOR AGES NOW MOST BU BULLSHITERS DONT DISCUSS THE ISSUES IN ANY BLOG

    DONT WORRY SIR
    Jesus WILL SOON take the wheel AFTER THE RISE OF ANTICHRIST

  40. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…something is fundamentally wrong when the frivolous becomes the important and vice versa…if I did not see for myself the crap that passes for I justice system on the island I would not believe it either….but now social media is here to let the world know the truth.

  41. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Pieces, pics from the other direction would be ideal also. And too from several yards further back just to get a complete perspective for anyone not too familiar and for that court case you expect.

    To be frank sir, having used that area (not often mind you) It’s clear that it was a problem/accident waiting to happen. Yet just as clear that it was an avoidable accident. But like highways the world-over potential hazard have to be properly safeguarded…and many are. This could have been done effectively and quite inexpensively.

    So the other part to this debate about which I have not heard or read details is this. When this island is moved, has there been any details on how egress from Coverly will be regulated? I can only surmise the island was there in the first-place to facilitate that egress….

    And considering that the island could have been made ‘safe’ to avoid any fatal accident in the normal course of driving then I can only further surmise that TCP had a different idea of traffic flow to/from Coverly and thus deemed this option non-compliant/too dangerous/unnecessary.

    More grounds for legal wrangling!!!


  42. Here is a video of that part of the highway.

    @Dee Word

    From the other end of the road is not in play.

  43. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    LOL @David re “From the other end of the road is not in play”. For perspective, good sir.

    Any analysis of how or why Abijah died in that accident must also look at the overall perspective of the roadway as well. A look back from the other direction provides a bit of that.

    But that’s just a general comment, Pieces and Abijah’s mum’s legal team as you do too understand all those dynamics.

    But nice video. Good stuff.

    Also reminds us how crazy we drive on that road rushing to the airport.

    And that complex is extensive.


  44. The Ministry of Transport and Works used to be responsible or roads. Surely one of their Engineers would have seen the “problems” as they drove around Barbados.

    There are “universal standards for road safety.

    In the 70s and 80s MTW had competent engineers. wha happen?


  45. @Hants

    When Mia addressed this matter in parliament she read/refer to documents detailing the concerns of the deputy technical officer at MTW about the egress at Coverley.


  46. @ The Honourable Blogmaster.

    Thanks for the Video.

    That place is big and for me that confirms why they are murderers.

    They had the space to use to allocate enough room for the safest entrance and egress to Coverley.

    In fact egress/exit DID NOT HAVE TO BE THERE at all, that place is big.

    That is unconscionable shyte nasty and much like the female genital mutilation attributed to one Troika in Waiting shows the mentalities of the animals behind the Coverley Development.

    That is why I consider $10,000 from Bizzy and the rest of these effers to be blood money and bribes because in the grand scheme of things in the Housing Credit Fund can be raped to pay you $27 million for this humungous place the Governor of the Central Bank or any other one of these co-conspirators, who claim to be patriots can intervene and say “tek a house spot, 10,000 sq. feet and mek de effing road right wunna animals”

    Dem gine dead bad, I pray for such and hope that Senator David Durant and Reverend Atherley and the rest of these Tithe Rapists, pray for such too.

    Even in that dated? video one sees how absolutely inane that entrance is.

    When you are leaving the compound, how the eff could you see with that 4 foot tall bush and palm tree obstructing your vision on the right?

    Sue them effing asses off to kingdom come, insist on a jury, and sue the effers.

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…what got me really angry at both governments. ..it’s very clear to see that neither Maloney nor, Bizzy, Cow, Bjerkham, Tempro , Harris or Parris have any respect for any of the politicians or ministers as leaders or they would be respectful enough not to engage in bribery and corruption..

    .I know the Maloneys, Bizzys etc along with Harris etc….hates them all with a passion, only tolerate these ministers because they are so easily used, so easily bribed..,they are a means to an end for the business people and nothing more, yet they open the people’s treasury to these thieves…. it makes ya sick to your stomach.


  48. This video was sent to BU a moment ago. How else to describe this idiot but as a JA.

  49. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    http://www.barbadostoday.bb/2016/06/19/offshore-solution-for-medical-internship/

    GP…this one’s for you..can you imagine the nerve of these idiots…lol


  50. It has been raining from this morning.

    I sit here ticking away at this keyboard and my grandson composes another of his “stupid cartoons” (according to the blogger AC

    This incessant rain must by now be reaching the coffin of Abijah seeping incessantly past his cold corpse to trickle back to the earth

    I try to focus on something that makes me aware of the fact that I am yet alive, as are his murderers, yet alive this evening and how even now that they might be gathering laughing and eating the Sunday Meal, content as we exhale the breath in our lungs, automatically.

    The spot where his essence left and the blood seeped out his body must, by now, be well “sanitized”of his presence rather his absence.

    And at this moment, neither Leaky Cock or Baloney have so much as thought of Abijah cold and lifeless in Coral Grove.

    http://imgur.com/ZkOR0Lx

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