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The Nation Newspaper clipped the last sentence of Caswell’s column, here is the unedited version.

On Tuesday May 10, 2016 debate on the Opposition motion of no-confidence against the Government started in the House of Assembly. I must confess that I did not listen. However from reports in the media, except CBC, it is my understanding that the Leader of the Opposition, Mia Mottley, levelled a wide-ranging set of charges to justify her call for the removal of the Government.

She was on her feet for five hours outlining her case which in my view was overkill. To my mind, there was one allegation that if proven to be correct would more than justify the Government’s removal from office. She revealed that the Government proposed to increase the salaries and allowances paid to parliamentarians by ten percent.

The following day, I heard a news item on Starcom Network news quoting Minister Stephen Lashley as saying that they did not get an increase in salary. My first reaction, to those seemingly contradictory reports, was that they cannot both be telling the truth. At this stage, I was not prepared to allow anyone to prove anything to me. I had to find out for myself. I logged onto Parliament’s website only to find out that both were correct.

The website revealed that there are resolutions before the House of Assembly seeking approval of two orders made on April 15, 2016 by the Minister of Finance to change the salaries of parliamentarians. So far, Miss Mottley is truthful in this regard.

Section 5.(1) of the Ministers and Parliamentary Secretaries (Remuneration and Allowances) Act, Chapter 8 of the Laws of Barbados, empowers the Minister of Finance to make an order to increase or decrease those salaries. Section 5.(2) states, among other things that the order is subject to affirmative resolution. That simply means that before the order can take effect it must be approved by both Houses of Parliament and assented to by the Governor-General.

In our system of governance, a member of Cabinet must support anything that the Government brings to the House or resign. So unless there are resignations from Cabinet in the offing, the thirteen members of the House who sit in Cabinet must vote “yes”. In order to defeat these resolutions both Mara Thompson and James Paul would have to vote with the members who do not support the Government. It can happen but that is hardly likely.

The next step in the process would be Senate approval. Government holds twelve of the twenty-one seats in the Senate. I therefore do not forsee a rebellion among Democratic Labour Party members in the Senate to defeat these resolutions.

Since the resolutions have not been approved in the House and Senate and assented to by the Governor-General, MPs would be unable to draw their new salaries. So in effect, Minister Lashley is also telling the truth.

Since 2013 Government has reduced its workforce by approximately 6,000. To date many of those workers have not seen one red cent in severance pay. In addition, Government has not seen it fit to even give vacation pay to former workers of Beautify Barbados. Mind you, if those workers were in the Private Sector, the Chief Labour Officer would have brought the employers before the court for failing to pay holiday pay. Incidentally, legal proceedings in such matters must be filed within a year of the holiday pay becoming due.

In light of all the suffering and deprivation that Government has inflicted on the most vulnerable in this society; How can they muster enough gall to even consider a proposal to increase the salaries of parliamentarians? This administration has deprived 6,000 public workers of 100% of their salaries and then made a token sacrifice of 10% of theirs. They are now seeking to reclaim the 10% that they lost. What about the 6,000 who went home? Does this Government even care?


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127 responses to “The Caswell Franklyn Column – Does Government Even Care?”


  1. There is no Jeff Cumberbatch Column today.

  2. Anthony Davis Avatar

    Caswell, I take it that your question is rhetorical, because every taxpayer in this country knows that it doesn’t! Splitting hairs about whether it’s an increase or not doesn’t cut it! They have the audacity to reinstitute the 10% which they were giving up without even thinking about entities like the Welfare Department which is undermanned and underfunded. The same goes for the ministries of education, agriculture, health and social care. Every day one is confronted with more and more young vagrants, but they have to dip into the taxes for their own gain first. But, as the Minister of the Environment said, “I don’t see any garbage in Bridgetown”. How could he? His windows are presumably tinted, and rolled up when he traverses the city, so now he won’t see the number of young vagrants either. Inniss is talking codswallop about not bringing down the Government, but I remember that he is against the 10% deduction because he has bills to pay, as if the taxpayers, who pay him, don’t!

  3. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    “So unless there are resignations from Cabinet in the offing, the thirteen members of the House who sit in Cabinet must vote “yes”. In order to defeat these resolutions both Mara Thompson and James Paul would have to vote with the members who do not support the Government. It can happen but that is hardly likely.”

    Didn’t the same Minister Lashley say his administration is listening to the people on the 10%salary adjustment? Presumably he was referring to the ordinary Bajan including the thousands on the breadline.
    The only people in favour of this selfish proposal are the greedy S.O.B.s in the same administration including the two acs of BU. We shall see if his “morning” words on Brasstacks will be the same as his evening actions in Parliamentwhen it comes to speaking and voting on the resolution.

    But you all people know the present DLP administration is totally devoid of scruples and don’t give two hoots about what ordinary Bajans think of them. Just recall the CLICO scam and the role your dead friend Thompson and the current piece of immoral shit played in facilitating and defending the actions of Greenverbs.

    Remember the presumptuous prevarications and callous disrespect Fumble displayed to school children and the BCC students?

    What would be of major interest to right thinking Barbadians, though, is how Maria Agard and Owen Arthur are going to vote on this one.
    This matter is most serious with far reaching social and economic ramifications and has little or nothing to do with keeping Mottley from the throne. It is all about good honest governance and morality in public life.

    As a so-called Christian and fighter for justice for ordinary people is Maria going to support this blatant display of downright disrespect to the people and breach of trust of the people who voted for them?

    Would she haul the governing party over the coals or would she connive with the real demon in the people’s eyes by either voting as she did in the No Confidence motion or conveniently stay away feigning another bout of contrived illness?

    Maria, you have impressed the people with your call for good governance. Now don’t disappoint them by effectively join the ruling party in their quest to destroy Barbados.

    Please don’t let spite and revenge be the motivation for your political stance.
    Just remember how the current leaders of the DLP fooled the people by promising the following:

    “Why Good governance? Good Governance is
    characterized by the principles of participation,
    consensus, accountability, transparency,
    responsiveness, effectiveness and efficiency,
    equity and inclusion, and the rule of law. It
    assures that corruption is minimized, the views
    of minorities are taken into account and that the
    voices of the most vulnerable in society are heard
    in decision-making and the allocation of resources.”

  4. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Miller

    Don’t be too hard on Maria Agard. If she votes to bring down the Government, she would in effect be voting to end her career as a parliamentarian. More likely than not, if she runs as an independent, she would lose. Mind you, I think that she has enough support to split the BLP vote and ensure a victory for Verla De Peiza.

  5. Hamilton Hill Avatar

    If Barbadians let this injustice become just another nine day wonder then they truly deserve what the hell ever they get. This can no longer be about whether or not you like or admire Mia Mottley, Barbadians need to register their disapproval in one way and one way only.Come Thursday….SHUTDOWN BARBADOS!

  6. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Christ no, Verla Depeiza would be worse than Fruendel. So in effect , no really intelligent people are running for parliament, all rejects, imbeciles and those without critical thinking or conflict resolution skills…a disaster visted on the people, makes me wonder what bajans did to deserve such idiots.


  7. As bad as this government is, and I am fully aware of its deficiencies, I cannot imagine that the voters of Barbados would elevate the Leader of the Opposition to the most powerful position in the country. It is inconceivable that such an individual would be put in charge of a Christian country, because her lifestyle is condemned in the Bible. In the Middle Ages, when religion was taken seriously, she would have been executed for deviant behaviour.
    Barbados has always been a deeply colonial society, which copies every fad and fashion of British and North American societies, but I hope we will never be in the disgraceful situation of the Canadian province of Ontario, where the Premier is a female who is always accompanied by her “wife” at the opening ceremonies for Parliament and at other official events. And yes, they are legally married.


  8. @chadd9999

    What does the Bible say about fornication as a lifestyle?

  9. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Well Well & Consequences May 15, 2016 at 8:04 AM #
    “… So in effect , no really intelligent people are running for parliament, all rejects, imbeciles and those without critical thinking or conflict resolution skills…a disaster visted on the people, makes me wonder what bajans did to deserve such idiots.”

    It is possible they have been cursed for calling God a Bajan. How dare them to call Bushie’s God a BBE Brass-bowl!
    Pride cometh before a fall and the overly materialistic Bajans have been, for some time now, too full of it.


  10. Chad99999, a light shining in the darkness or something of that sort!

  11. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ chad99999 May 15, 2016 at 8:13 AM
    “It is inconceivable that such an individual would be put in charge of a Christian country, because her lifestyle is condemned in the Bible.”

    “Barbados has always been a deeply colonial society, which copies every fad and fashion of British and North American societies…”

    But Chad, the 5 of 9 judge(s) of people’s morality, don’t you see that those two statements are in hypocritical contradiction of each other?

    Where do you think Bajan Christianity and the King James Bible come from? The Arawaks or Montezuma?

    The same way your old colonial masters have discarded the same Bible previously used to control ignorant subjects like you because of its blatant double standards and irrelevance to a modern democratic equalitarian type society so too should mentally liberated and enlightened Bajans (unlike you).


  12. “chad99999 May 15, 2016 at 8:13 AM #

    As bad as this government is, and I am fully aware of its deficiencies, I cannot imagine that the voters of Barbados would elevate the Leader of the Opposition to the most powerful position in the country. It is inconceivable that such an individual would be put in charge of a Christian country, because her lifestyle is condemned in the Bible. In the Middle Ages, when religion was taken seriously, she would have been executed for deviant behaviour.”

    Just for the record if you are too young to know let me inform that it would not be the first time that someone with such a purported lifestyle was in a charge of a Christian country. There was a powerful DLP politician referred to in the press as a ‘kingmaker’ who was in charge of this Christian country from time to time.

  13. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Not only that “balance”; Freundel now wants to erect a statue of him/her.

    Sent from my iPad

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  14. Does the adulterous exploits of Owen Arthur for example prevent many from regarding him as a good prime minister? More importantly was it an election campaign issue? We have to be fair.

    On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  15. Barbados may be a Christian country in general terms. Nuff churches and people who go to church. This has more to do with habit and socialisation than any real Christianity.

    If the BLP wins the next election MIA will be PM and Barbados will have its first female PM.


  16. Three points of rebuttal to comments made:
    (1) The DLP deputy prime minister of yesteryear was NOT a king maker. He was a friend and colleague of the powerful who was allowed to hold a position of some visibility on the understanding that he would behave with discretion. Very different from the shameless individual who contends for power today.
    (2) I am not advocating sanctions against ordinary homosexuals, but the office of prime minister is a unique position of great symbolic as well as political significance, which should only be held by people who represent most Barbadians in every way.
    (3) Those who equate heterosexual misbehaviour with sexual deviance are misguided. Apart from moral and aesthetic considerations, the medical consequences of homosexuality are well established. There are very high rates of sexually transmitted disease, intestinal parasites and hepatitis among practicing lesbians and male homosexuals, and they have shorter average life spans, not only as a result of disease but also as a result of domestic violence and recreational drug use. We need healthy role models in leadership positions.

  17. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    You are well aware that our society is full of hypocrisy. If a man has 100 women, he is looked up to by most other men as a hero. On the other hand if a woman had an affair or even an ill-advised one-off encounter outside of her established relationship, she is considered a slut. Ask the question if a man has relationships with 10 women or a woman has relationships 10 women who would be condemned in this society. I will not answer though because I am not qualified to cast the first stone.

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  18. @chad9999

    If you are making a moral argument then you can’t move the goal posts.

    On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 1:53 PM, Barbados Underground wrote:

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  19. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Chad99999

    You are confusing me; I really do not understand your reasoning. Mind you, I am not advocating a lesbian lifestyle but how can two pristine female sex organs rubbing together produce any sexually transmitted diseases.

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  21. @Caswell

    Sorry to have to break the bad news to a man of your age and experience, but (a) there is greater variety to the sexual practices of lesbians than you seem to be aware of, and (b) there is no such thing as a pristine vagina. Each and every one is loaded with bacteria and viruses. Among lesbians, HPV is nearly universal. In case you don’t know, several strains of HPV cause cancers of the mouth and throat. Let’s not get into genital herpes and other unmentionables

  22. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    So Chad according to you (1) an improperly maintained vagina is more disease prone than an improperly maintained penis (particularly circumscribed); (2) standard heterosexual practices (in clean & healthy people) is all good BUT one should always refrain from oral sex.

    Can you at least quote something from a established science journal/book to support your awesome thesis?

  23. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    …particularly UN circumscribed, that should be.

  24. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    let’s see if we can get this thing to work: …’particularly UNCIRCUMCISED’, that should read.


  25. Would be interesting to find out if Caswell saw his contribution taking this particular footpath.


  26. The facts I am describing are well known to “educated” people. You want references? Start at the Web site of the US Centers for Disease Control. Google “medical consequences of homosexuality” if you want links to scientific papers.

  27. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Chuckle…….Caswells question has been answered if we accept that the contributions on this blog reflect a microcosm of our society…..as some appear to be fixated with the private affairs of our potential leaders with a total disregard of previous adulterers and those prone to domestic violence who were our leaders rather than dealing with the persons ability to contribute to the national development…….we like it so,thursday looks like it will be a quite day.

  28. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Chad apparently my sarcasm was unnoticed. I do not need references. Educated people do not make such outlandish, unfounded and inflammatory remakrs to other educated people.

    They do so to fools. So either you think we are fools or you are not as educated as you would have us believe.

    HPV is an STD that affects across the board. It is not very educated to say ‘Among lesbians, HPV is nearly universal’.

    We all came via those ‘vagina… loaded with bacteria and viruses’. They were pristine enough at that moment despite all the related bacterial gunk you offer that they contain.

    But following your logic that’s a good reason why we have so many bad people filled with mental and other disease in the world I imagine.

    Enjoy your rhetoric. Clearly too educated for me.

  29. Whinny A Dove Avatar

    chat99999
    Your are one dumb fuck man. Why don’t you Goggle ‘medical consequences of hetorsexuality’ and see what comes up.
    You are one retard.
    Is Prime Minister Stuart married? If not, does he have a female partner? If not, does he have a male partner? Stupse!


  30. @The Gazer
    Would be interesting to find out if Caswell saw his contribution taking this particular footpath
    +++++++++
    The ‘BU Family” is easily distracted

  31. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Vincent, quite frankly that lesbian issue with Mia Mottley is the least of her issues as a threat to the Bajan people.

    Tom allegedly beat his women and emasculated their spouses; Barrow had a coterie of powerful gay men in high places who enjoyed high-jinks also alleged. And so so and so so.

    We discovered the graft and deal making shenanigans much later. All of Ms Mottley deal making corrupt shenanigans is an “known” now as let’s say Tom’s affair and physical violence with a beautiful CBC TV personality was “known’ back then.

    We all could really care less about who spends the night in whose bed…but about her corruption we do!

    Anyhow, like Trump or Hilary to White House so on to Illaro Court she goes!


  32. @ Pedantic Fool
    My comments are factual. Some facts are inconvenient to some people. You retreat from facts to the primitive cave of ideology and ad hominem attacks. So let me repeat. Lesbians have higher rates of HPV than non-lesbian women. Look it up. Lesbians have higher rates of several sexually transmitted diseases than non-lesbian women. Suck it up.

  33. Whinny A Dove Avatar

    Background: Sexual minority women are at risk for infection with human papillomavirus (HPV), yet little is known about the prevalence of HPV infection among this population. Further, it is not known how the prevalence of HPV infection might vary based on how sexual orientation is measured and operationalized. Methods: We analyzed data from the 2003–2012 National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) among women ages 20–59 (n = 7,132). We examined two dimensions of sexual orientation for each woman (sexual identity and sexual behavior), as well as multiple operational definitions for each dimension (aggregating sexual minority women into one group and disaggregating sexual minority women into subgroups). Weighted logistic regression models determined how HPV infection outcomes (any HPV type, high-risk HPV type, and vaccine-preventable HPV type) varied by dimension. Results: Similar patterns emerged for sexual identity and sexual behavior. In bivariate analyses, HPV infection outcomes were more common among non-heterosexual women compared to heterosexual women (any type: 49.7% vs. 41.1%; high-risk type: 37.0% vs. 27.9%), as well as among women who reported any same-sex partners compared to women who reported only opposite-sex partners (any type: 55.9% vs. 41.0%; high-risk type: 37.7% vs. 28.2%; vaccine-preventable type: 19.1% vs. 14.0%) (P < 0.05). When we disaggregated dimensions of sexual orientation into subgroups, bisexual women and women who reported partners of both sexes had greater odds of HPV infection outcomes (P < 0.05 in bivariate analyses). Multivariate models attenuated several of these differences, though lesbian women and women who reported only same-sex partners had lower odds of most HPV infection outcomes in multivariate analyses (P < 0.05). Conclusions: HPV infection is common among sexual minority women. However, prevalence estimates vary slightly between sexual orientation dimensions and greatly depending on how a dimension is operationally defined. These findings highlight the importance of measuring sexual orientation in various ways and can help inform targeted HPV and cervical cancer prevention efforts for sexual minority women.

    The following are the 17 highest-scoring abstracts of those submitted for presentation at the 40th Annual ASPO meeting held March 13–15, 2016, in Columbus, OH.

  34. Whinny A Dove Avatar

    Chad99999, you are an ass boy.


  35. @Whinney

    I think you like to project your own faults on to others. Middle finger to you.


  36. chad9: So wtf difference does it make whether the PM has HPV or not? Whether the person can do the job (better than the current spectacular failure) is ALL that matters. What he or she does in the privacy of their own bedroom is so irrelevant, it does not even measure on the Richter scale, except for narrow minded, bigoted, faux-Christian, cherry picking bible thumpers like you.

    Oh and by the way, you sanctimonious idiot, your precious Bible also would put to death those who work on Sundays (PMs not excluded), those who eat shellfish, those who wear more than one fabric at a time and a litany of other utterly ridiculous ‘sins’ that you and your ilk choose to ignore. Why? Because they don’t suit your bigotted agenda, not to mention that they are utterly irrelevant.

    Oh, and while we are at it, what planet are you from if you think homosexuals are the only ones performing anal sex to obtain all these diseases of which you seem so fond to point out? Anal penetration is a rampant practice amongst heterosexuals (we don’t need to hear that you think it is an abomination and have never practiced it – that’s not the accusation). And for those in any doubt, it is anal sex (buggery) which is illegal in Barbados, NOT homosexuality.

    Guh long with your nonsense and let’s get back to the debate.

  37. Violet C Beckles Avatar
    Violet C Beckles

    BAFBFP May 15, 2016 at 10:08 AM #

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  38. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Chad99999

    Thanks for your comment at 10:14. Never having been a lesbian I was making assumptions. But we have to agree to disagree on this pristine thing


  39. @Caswell

    we have had Minister Lashley pulling back from the 10% motion on the talk show last week. We see it is on the Order Paper for Tuesday. So where are we.If the government moves ahead with the matter one can expect it will give impetus to the BLP march with the NUPW possibly joining.

  40. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Chad9999blind

    You really should stop while you are ahead. You have not the foggiest idea what you are talking about when it comes lesbians. Lawwwwwd. Stick to what you are good at. Trying to sound like you are making sense.


  41. Chad99999, any speculation on a recently departed pm and his sidekick who he was known to publicly “backup”? I won’t comment of rumor about their private relationship. Were you as concerned as much then about their violation of bible writings as you are now?

  42. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    I stopped taking Chadx9 seriously when he actually believed the US would take 13 million good dollars and give Mexico for the piles of sand now called California, Texas, Nevada, Las Vegas etc, when they could just thoef the damn thing. …..he forgot that black Americans are still waiting for the 40 acres and a mule promised to them when slavery was abolished…….believes the crap in the bible that still condones slavery, cause ya cant believe one thing in the bible and not the other, may ss well do like me and dont believe any of it….he forgets those that are said to have translated the bible or edited or created new editions and versions to suit the times and their own agendas, James and Shakespeare etc…were homosexual themselves…and I can go on all day…truly frightening the facade that is christianity.

  43. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    By the way, being as Chad is a newbie, I suppose he would not know and and no one ever bothered to mention to him that it was no secret that EWB was openly bi…..he may want to actually check the orientation of the current ministers while he is at it, since he wants to be a voyeur in other people’s bedrooms, it’s their business and the consequences are theirs, as long as it’s not endangering other people…in Mia’s case, if the authorities were doing their jobs and the same lousy neanderthals in parliament were not repotedly covering up the nasty things she did to young women on the island…she would be in prison for assault.


  44. “David May 15, 2016 at 9:43 AM #

    Does the adulterous exploits of Owen Arthur for example prevent many from regarding him as a good prime minister? More importantly was it an election campaign issue? We have to be fair”

    Now, Now, Now Mr David if you are going down that road ; you have to include Mr Barrow and Mr Adams as well of which such allegations abound if there is to be some balance to your comment.


  45. “Caswell Franklyn May 15, 2016 at 9:53 AM #

    David

    You are well aware that our society is full of hypocrisy. If a man has 100 women, he is looked up to by most other men as a hero.”


  46. What about that fellow called Judo.Bajans don’t give nicknames for nothing.Where there is smoke there is fire.When caught who say he was practicing judo?and with whom?king who?

  47. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Besides, with all that education, Chad is obviously not aware that the HPV virus is carried, they are carriers, by men, just like most STDs including aids virus, most sexually transmitted diseases hardly bother men until later in life, but are hell on female sex organs at all times….since the world is littered with males who consider themselves village rams, imagine the rate of infection, male to female.

    Even with aids, it has been found that the male to female infection rate is higher than female to male infection.

    Caswell….herpes can be passed from female to female, but most of the infections are male to female…most are lifestyle diseases, if you do not practice safe sex and continue having risky sex…ya are at risk, as they have been telling everyone from the 70s to present…this is 2016.


  48. The national fish of Barbados should be the red herring.

  49. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    So commense dictates that it is not the lifestyle of the politician, but whether he or she has the acumen and acuity to successfully manage a country.

    Seeing that the parasitc lot of ministers currently squatting in parliament did not replace not one of the jobs of the 3-6 thousand workers they severed 3 years ago, but now look to replace their 10% cut, they are failures and would be deemed not adequate in any progressive society.

    You are judged, as a leader, by the amount of jobs your actions successfully added to the economy and not by how much of NIS pension money you gave away to minority business people without any proof the money would increase or be returned, taking NIS pension money to pay vendor’s which had nothing to do with government, as it was a private scam, , that does not help the economy, it destroys it with corruption and imbalance.

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