Hillary or Hitlery – As American as Apple Pie
Submitted by Pachamama
Hillary Clinton
Over recent days some American political elites, from the republican wing of the one-party state, have been feigning a run for cover from Hitlery. They have been representing the emergence of Donald ‘Adolf Hitler’ Trump as a significant departure from the political culture. We will contend that there are no substantive differences between the elites and that the advent of both Hillary and Hitlery are eminently predictable sociological outcomes.
We have argued for more than 15 years that the American systems are unavoidably fascist by their very nature. Having reached that conclusion, for us, it was merely a matter of time, when not how, the obvious inheritors of the mantle of Adolf Hitler would emerge and take their rightful place in the political system. For they have always controlled much of the culture.
The American political culture is characterized by the enduring influence of genocide, the slave economy model, the continued lionization of slavers at the centre of the national life, quest for global empire and governing systems informed by these histories. Dominant histories of ‘victors’ and criminals, in power.
Present day actors are direct inheritors of the legacies of fascism, criminality, murder, genocide, gambling, prostitution, election rigging at home and abroad, support of despots and all other forms of immorality in high places.
Trump’s grandfather was a brothel keeping during the California/Alaska gold rush. In other words, he was mining the miners. Now, he wants to save coal mining in West Virginia! Mining is a family business, it seems. At a time when, we all know, that our Mother can take no more pollution. The women Trump pretends to love must look like Barbie dolls, a perfect ten. And of course, they must not be too bright but are to adhere to the standards of the Hitlerian decree – blonde and blue-eyed, from Germanic stock. For in his eyes these are the only women who could be beautiful, not Mother Nature.
Trump’s father was arrested on Long Island at a gathering of Nazi sympathizers, during war. And this was no aberration. Prescod Bush, father and grandfather of two former presidents who are not pretending to distance Trump, like most American industrialists, openly supported Adolf Hitler, to the end. Henry Ford, the car-maker, argued strenuously for American support for Nazi Germany. While others fought for an American policy of non-intervention or the denial of American help to the British as they fought against Hitler. Including in the group was arguably the best known American of that time, the socialite and aviator, Charles Lindbergh. They were all shameless supporters of fascism.
Other leading American figures supporting Adolf Hitler were John Rockefeller, there is still a Rockefeller in the US Senate today, another Rockefeller was governor of New York. David Rockefeller, banker, has been for decades a leading hidden-government, Knights of Malta, Council of Foreign Relations, figure. Allen Dulles, he and his brother constructed the modern CIA and among other things overthrew the government of Iran (1953) and were implicated in the assassination of JFK. The Dulles brothers masterminded “Operation Paperclip’ to bring German scientists and other leading Nazis to the USA and countries in South America after Hitler’s defeat. The father of JFK himself was, like Donald Trump, a known associate of the mob and a Hitler supporter. He made his money during prohibition.
It was IBM’s technology which made Hitler’s train to run on time to the gas chambers at Auschwitz and elsewhere. IBM supplied the punch card technology for Hitler to keep track of his ‘undesirables’. Other leading American corporations and financial institutions bankrolled the Nazis. Hitler himself, admitted that his ideas of ‘racial purity’ were largely derived from the American experience – the genocide of tens of millions of First Nations peoples, the enslavement of ‘Africans’. Hitler’s cheap labour attracted American corporate capital, not unlike how it does to this day. The eugenicist movement was largely an American project, transplanted into Germany, and attracted support from many of its leading citizens.
Trump himself represents all that is good and bad about the USA. For there are few other places in the world where his grandfather, with little else than the clothes on his back, could produce a grandson as a billionaire and presidential candidate from a leading political party for the office of biggest criminal-in-wait. And we are warning you, Trump will use nuclear weapons just for the fun of it.
Hillary’s ancestral baggage is no less profane. She must know of the drug running of her husband for the CIA and as Governor of Arkansas. Hillary herself was once a proud ‘Goldwater girl’. Her support for the 1964 Republican presidential ambitions of a rabid, racist, Barry Goldwater is conveniently airbrushed out of the narratives. She, not unlike Trump, talks about this like some misguidance of youth. And she can therefore, never be brought to account for this misdeed. We have to remember that this Republican, Hillary Clinton, made the determination to support a racist at the height of the civil rights movement. Today she will now be seeking to control 100% of the votes of the so-called ‘African-Americans’. What irony!
As genocidaire, Hillary helped to build the narrative of ‘Black’ men as ‘predators’. That recent (1990’s) narration landed hundreds of thousands of ‘Black’ men in America’s dungeons. With her chicken-headed cackle she found glee that her paid gangsters would rape and murder a head of a sovereign state – President Muammar Khadafy. ‘We came, we saw, and he died’ was her refrain. There can be no better example of the utterly sociopathic, socialpathic, narcissistic, schizophrenic nature of the collective American mind. This deprave lack of empathy as a precondition for success, for victory at any cost. But the masses of people are generally no different. We are sure to find millions of stupid people calling her lovingly …… ‘Hillary’. As though she and them are any friends. Now that, is the other side of the absence of empathy. Like slaves, ‘Black’ people, especially, can always be made to love those, who hate them most.
While political elites in the USA continue to misguide the masses with their pretense that Donald Trump is not one of them, we KNOW that the back channels have been already paved and demands for their placeholders have already been accepted by Trump. This system has been constructed to make any president inert. And the elites know this well. So while Hitler is out there talking shite they will make sure that he will not be able to do anything which the elites don’t want him to do. In essence, they will allow him to talk as much as he wants but they will control every decision he makes. Trump will not be able to even go to the bathroom without a permission slip, we forecast, whether or not he wins.
And that squeaky voice one, Hillary, who is seen as the shoo-in. We assess that her, sometimes gerrymandering, traditional, bureaucratic campaign will be stretched to its outer limits by the maverick, unscripted, guerrilla marketing style of a Trump. We judge that Trump will make a better thief of an election than Romney’s facile attempt. There are few responses Hillary could use to confront, what she would term as political madness. It is in these swamps of political madness that Trump would best find victory. Working against a perceived establishment with an insurgency campaign. However, whoever wins, the elites win! Not the rednecks form Appalachia nor the ghetto queens from Brownsville. The elites and the elites alone!
Barbados Underground 
Already been to Panama but not with my money!
Secrecy Laws that are enforced and not near the USA!
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Either way America is bond to be doomed – here comes the fall of the Western Hemisphere!
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@MoneyBrain at 12:33 PM ..the debate of Black Lives Matter and Police brutality is a lot like a seesaw where a balanced weight is needed on both sides for ANY legitimate real progress; you are treating it like a play-ground slide…one way flow only.
Every police officer is groomed on the same psychology and society as the lady leader. They may originate from different communities but they hate or love with very similar attitudes in general.
Of course Black people kill each other. That in no way absolves racist or power hungry police officers from their terrible actions when not provoked or their quick-trigger attitudes when they encounter Blacks.
It’s a seesaw … meaningful solutions require some sort of balancing weight.
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Dribs
The problem is that Police Officers want to go home to their family and are taught about certain very real dangers like anyone with a knife can stab you when starting out from say 17 ft. Hence they can shoot such a person. When a Police rolls up on a situation involving a black gent they already know in the USA and Canada that blacks kill at a much higher rate than others, indeed it is around 3.8-4 TIMES. Hence they are Psychologically much more trigger happy themselves. Some are just plain racial though.
Here in Toronto it sure seems far too much of violent crime like shooting is conducted by young black men, mainly drug related and targeting other black men. They shoot in 5 yr olds Bday Parties, Community BBQs, on Buses killing black peeps in the main. This requires mature thinkers to solve. Recently 2 white americans who were helping poor black Jamaicans were murdered in JA. The reaction in JA when Ashliegh Banfield of CNN said JA is one of the most violent places on Earth was that she was racist.
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Following the murder of two American missionaries in St Mary, CNN news anchor Ashleigh Banfield said that Jamaica “is an extraordinarily violent country with a remarkable murder rate”. After hearing the remark, many Jamaicans went ballistic, taking to social and traditional media to express their outrage.
I was genuinely perplexed by the reactions because, having lived here for most of my life, I know that Jamaica IS an extraordinarily violent country with a remarkable murder rate. According to the Oxford Dictionary, ‘extraordinarily’ means ‘to a remarkable degree; extremely’, which would apply to the levels of violence in our society.
Japan, an atheistic country with a population of 126 million, is the 11th most populous country in the world. In 2015, there were 933 murders there. In Jamaica, with a population of 2.8 million, there were 1,192 murders that year. Japan’s population is 45 times bigger than ours, but we kill more people. Japan’s murder rate (murders per 100,000 people) is less than 1. Ours is more than 40.
Chicago has been dubbed ‘America’s mass shooting capital’, after the documentation of 18 occasions in 2015 in which four or more people were shot in a single incident. Chicago is also America’s third most populous city, with a population roughly the same as Jamaica’s, but in 2015, 468 murders were committed there, fewer than half those slaughtered in our country.
There are 195 countries in the world, and Jamaica’s murder rate is consistently in the global top 10. We are now ranked seventh. In 2005, we were number one, with 1,674 murders, giving a murder rate of 58 per 100,000 people. The number of persons killed in Jamaica is comparable with those slain in a country at civil war. During the Iraq war, more people were being killed in Jamaica than members of the coalition forces fighting in that conflict.
Violence is so widespread in Jamaica that most Jamaicans have known persons who were murdered or who were victims of severe violence. I am no exception.
A good friend of mine was walking with his nine-year-old son to his godfather’s house on the morning of Good Friday a few years ago, on the same road as Vale Royal (the official residence of the prime minister of Jamaica), and was challenged by two thugs, one of whom shot him several times at close range, in front of his child. He succumbed to his injuries.
A patient of mine left her husband and went abroad, and on her return, he arranged for her to be doused with acid. She died.
Another patient of mine presented herself for her first antenatal visit and did not return. She was reported missing, and her charred body was found in bushes near the Port Royal main road.
Then there are persons who did not succumb to their injuries, but whose lives have been changed forever. I know two persons who were shot and became paralysed, and another who was raped and shot in the back, and carries around a bullet lodged next to her spine, and another who was shot in the face at point-blank range while in his car at a traffic light.
Gang-rape victims? Yes, I know some too, as well as persons who have been stabbed, slashed and chopped. As for perpetrators, I am acquainted with some of those as well, including someone who chopped a man to death, a man who shot and killed his girlfriend’s ex, and a man who fatally shot his own child.
Particularly distressing is the killing of our children, which has become commonplace. The situation is so grim that less than eight years after it was established, the Secret Gardens monument in downtown Kingston is running out of space to record the names of Jamaica’s children killed under violent circumstances. Six hundred and sixty-four names are inscribed on the monument, and there is space for only 20 more.
Violence attributed to members of the security forces also makes a valuable contribution. Just two days prior to writing this article, on the same day a policeman was sentenced for the murder of his ex-girlfriend, another was taken into custody in connection with the brutal slaying of a female colleague who was shot six times.
What do our leaders have to say about crime in Jamaica? Former Prime Minister P.J. Patterson described the situation as “a national challenge of unprecedented proportions”. A frustrated former minister of national security, Peter Bunting, stated that we needed “divine intervention” to deal with the problem, while his successor, Robert Montague, is contemplating the resumption of hanging to quell the bloodletting.
The Jamaica Umbrella Groups of Churches also recently issued a statement claiming that “the darkness of evil has again overshadowed the country”.
Violence affects us so much that some of us do not watch the news, because we find it to be too distressing, and some hotels deliberately do not sell local newspapers, fearing that some of the stories about crime may scare our visitors. The fact is that we have been bombarded with so much violence for so long that many of us have become desensitised and do not realise how bad things really are in our country.
Still not convinced that we are an extraordinarily violent country? Check out these lyrics from ‘Welcome To Jamrock’ by Damian Marley:
“Out in the streets, they call it murder …
… Di thugs dem wi do weh them got to
And won’t think twice to shot you
Don’t make them spot you
Unless you carry guns a lot, too
A bare tough thing come at you …
… Welcome to Jamdown
Poor people a dead at random
Political violence, can’t done …
… And that’s why a nuff little youth have up some fat ‘matic
With the extra magazine inna them back pocket
And a bleach a night-time inna some black jacket
All who no lock Glocks, them a lock rocket
Them will full you up a current like a shock socket.”
Welcome to Jamrock.
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6 hrs ·
Female South African judge suggests ‘rape is part of black culture’
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It is a serious problem in Sth Africa. Having SEX with Baby girls is thought by some there thought to “cure” AIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT it is not part of Black culture globally or in Sth Africa.
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VIDEO: Hillary Clinton lying for 12 minutes straight…
Hacker group Anonymous just shared a video featuring a highlight reel of Hillary Clinton’s blatant lies…
LIAR and Flip Flopper of the Decade!
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MB to what avail exactly that piece re Jam??? Are you asking the blog to extrapolate that to US and Can that any Jamaican stopped by a police officer is a criminal too like their brethren?
The same tired rhetoric that has made the rounds for years and here again you regurgitate the stereotype.
Senor, yes lots of murders happen in JA. But they also get lots more tourists than Bdos every year too…some 2 million in 2013.
They also have some great musicians. Does that mean all Jamaicans are wonderful reggae artists and can sing???
There are some topics that you seem to lose all sense of objectivity. That is sad
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Dribs
The point, which I thought U would get, is that Jammies dont think that JA is one of the very most dangerous places on Earth, just as many Black people may have problems agreeing that Black people commit far too much violent crime.
Anyway it is critical that the problem is solved professionally within and mainly by leaders in the black community with whatever assistance required regarding education, Jobs, Attitude adjustment etc.
It matters little to me since I dont go into areas where troubles are most likely to effect my family or I. Contrary to what U or others may believe I do care for innocent black people who are the overwhelming victims.
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“This email investigation will amount to nothing, no one except for die hard Republicans talk about Benghazi which was a contrived issue that Republicans used to attack Hilary.”
Sarge there is nothing contrived about benghazi- the fact of the matter is that American embassy officials died and Mrs Clinton lied. your defence of Mrs Clinton mirrors AC’s defence of the DLP.
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MoneyBrain May 10, 2016 at 8:03 PM #
Jamaica “is an extraordinarily violent country with a remarkable murder rate”.
THIS CAN NOT BE DENIED OR REFUTED
THIS STATEMENT IS AS TRUE AS JOHN 3;16
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@MB
Why do you have so much angst about BLM? It seems that the group is generating a lot of hate in certain quarters. They are on the right track so you can continue to fulminate on the blog I don’t think they give a hoot about your views.
Here is one example of how white lives matter, remember the SC killer whom you (the psychiatrist) said was mad? Remember he killed those 9 people in Church and there was a warrant out for his arrest, When he was described as being on the run and “armed and dangerous”? He was caught by the State Police, not a shot fired instead they put him in the back of a cruiser and bought him the quintessential American lunch- a hamburger and a coke- maybe there was a helping of fries. His life mattered if a black man had murdered white people in a church he would be in the bone yard.
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@MB that thought never entered my head. None of the Jamaicans I know have that view. And none of the Black folks I know do not (like me) adopt that bury head in sand approach re Black on Black crime.
Socio-economic circumstances will drive the crime problems across the arious communities primarily.
For example there is a heron and meth epidemic that appears to be tearing out the soul of many Whites currently across America. The crime in the lower rungs of that group just as that in the struggling strata of the Black community is also off the charts.
I am not justifying crime in either group but we will never have to enjoin a contentious debate on how police forces are addressing and handling the meth and heroin actors as is enjoined re police and their attitudes to Black perps.
That is the simple overarching difficulty. Police officers in NY or Toronto city streets or those in the Minnesota hinterlands all want to get back home safely.
I don’t go into those areas or associate with folks from them either. But unlike you I am Black. And as you suggested if a police officer stops me in his worrisome frame of mind I MUST be one from those bad areas…
…so you better believe that it MATTERS to me!
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@MB
I never heard Trump say anything about the Presidents race, that is wunna’s opinion and go to race card. I understand the Psychology involved, we have an Afro Pres so he must be perfect and treated with kid gloves by everyone. It dont wuk so! Politics is a very nasty sport!
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He didn’t have to, the dog whistles were loud and clear and heard by those to whom they were directed, you heard them too. We can read between the lines very well, we know the words and circumstances too well, remember Reagan’s Welfare Queen? He wasn’t talking about the white folks in Appalachia who were catching their asses, he was speaking about down and out folks in the ghetto.
I can go on but you catch my drift.
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Moneybrain and John
It’s time you JA’s grew up and recognize that the albino species have been killing since time immemorial.In particular,read up on your barefoot poor ass brothers in Eastern Europe.Its your ignorance which made EWB remark you all should be taken out to sea and sunk with the barge.Effing armhole skunks.Get effing lost,it’s about time we rid ourselves of you scum.
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@CNN news anchor Ashleigh Banfield said that Jamaica “is an extraordinarily violent country with a remarkable murder rate”. What do our leaders have to say about crime in Jamaica? Former Prime Minister P.J. Patterson described the situation as “a national challenge of unprecedented proportions”. A frustrated former minister of national security, Peter Bunting, stated that we needed “divine intervention” to deal with the problem, while his successor, Robert Montague, is contemplating the resumption of hanging to quell the bloodletting.”
Jamaica’s violence is of course rooted in:
Slavery
Inequality
Poverty
Lack of education
Old Testament style Christian fundamentalism
The widespread use of marijuana and alcohol
Jamaicans fool themselves if they believe that bringing back hanging will fix any of these causes.
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@MoneyBrain May 10, 2016 at 8:01 PM “Recently 2 white americans who were helping poor black Jamaicans were murdered in JA.”
You do know that Jamaica already has TOO MUCH Christianity don’t you?
Even though am sorry to hear that the missionaries were killed, truly Jamaica does not need more missionaries nor more religion.
To my way of thinking Jamaica needs less religion.
Much less religion.
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@Pachamama “The women Trump pretends to love must look like Barbie dolls, a perfect ten. And of course, they must not be too bright but are to adhere to the standards of the Hitlerian decree – blonde and blue-eyed, from Germanic stock. For in his eyes these are the only women who could be beautiful”
Who says that Barbie dolls are beautiful? Lol!!!
If Trump is such a connoisseur of beauty how come he himself is so fat and sousy?
Stupseee!!!
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Sarge
U may be correct in suggesting that a black guy killing 9 whites a la SC might not have made it into a Police Cruiser. Indeed I am not so sure this whitey should have either!
It also depends on how the suspect behaves when the Police approach.
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Gabby
I have never said that white people dont kill.
Humans of ALL races are guilty of killing BUT some on here try to make out as if all Whiteys left this Earth all problems would be solved for Black people and that just is not the case. Bim would still have their current Pols for example.
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@chad99999 May 10, 2016 at 2:12 AM “all of whom are feminists…The attorney general and her two senior deputies are feministas”
Boy wait!! You ain’t get over that horn yet?
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@de pedantic Dribbler May 10, 2016 at 10:10 AM “any individual who has made himself a billionaire”
Made himself a billionaire what.
He would not be a billionaire if his daddy had not GIVEN him a little $200 million nest egg.
Heck my daddy left me exactly nothing and I’ve parlayed that zero into a few hundred thousand.
it is actually not that hard.
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“Its your ignorance which made EWB remark you all should be taken out to sea and sunk with the barge”
The irony of your example is that Mr Barrow was speaking tongue in cheek for all along he was in bed with those he threatened to put on the Lord Combermere and put out to sea to the cheers of unsuspecting masses.
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“Simple Simon May 10, 2016 at 11:17 PM #
@CNN news anchor Ashleigh Banfield said that Jamaica “is an extraordinarily violent country with a remarkable murder rate”. What do our leaders have to say about crime in Jamaica? Former Prime Minister P.J. Patterson described the situation as “a national challenge of unprecedented proportions”. A frustrated former minister of national security, Peter Bunting, stated that we needed “divine intervention” to deal with the problem, while his successor, Robert Montague, is contemplating the resumption of hanging to quell the bloodletting.”
Despite the above, the facts would indicate that Jamaicans have generally proven to be the most progressive black people of all in the Caribbean community in all respects even as the above suggest including crime; but Ashleigh Banfield should focus on the generational crime and violence which have been part and parcel of the American wild west and by extension society from colonial times instead of concentrating on the ills of a fledgling nation like Jamaica.
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Gabby,
Denial is a river in Africa.
Thanks for exhibiting your anger as it fits the info I posted.
Hint: hating whitey will not get you to the Promised Land, besides Bim is already Paradise.
Balance,
JA has the vast majority of Afrocentric people in the English speaking Cbean.
I have met an Haitian born Lawyer who had a great job on Wall St, so is Haiti successful too?
What did PJ actually conduct to SOLVE the problems in JA or was he too busy with his Net Worth Enhancement Plan? (seem to remember some large sum connected to Shell)
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MB
You can carry your Bulls..t to your red neck brethren.I don’t believe in your promised land gobbledegook.Skunk.
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Gabby if I am a redneck then U in real trouble with the REAL rednecks.
This is a classic case of not properly comprehending who your enemies are.
Your very best friends are the ones that are willing to give constructive criticism.
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MoneyB. ..ya missing all the fire, piss and vinegar on Mia’s link..lol
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MoneyB. ..may I remind you that whitey made rape of others, particularly blacks, into an institution.
John will tell you it was legal, not illegal. Barbados still cannot get over the culture of rape left by the British, no use trying to gloss it over…it’s reality.
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WW
The law can be a whore. It was and is not moral!
I would never force myself on any female, although I like dem real bad. Always preferred to attract.
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So wait, you really trying to convince all de bajan coneys pun here that you like pussy cats real bad and iffing you did living pon a plantation wid all dem sexy, healthy, loose limbed kittens purring and screeching all bout de place that you wud ‘prefer to attract’.
Leh ma guess you wud invite dem to your place for drinks, have a romantic picnic down by the hedgerow or pass by she place. Look don’t mek me laff and pee myselff do…
Well leh ma tell you, back den I don’t know bout nah attract foolishness. Be honest Mr White man and cut out all the political correctness bull-shite.
It was master and slave WTF you think happens.
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Here is a Jamaican trying to destroy…… ( sorry MoneyBrain….not what you are expecting)….
http://navaltoday.com/2016/05/09/new-uss-oscar-austin-commander-first-jamaican-american-to-command-a-us-navy-destroyer/
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Braff, U and others have your strategies I gots mine, live wid dat. Mine have worked real well for me, how U doing?
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13 minutes…last 4 are really scary…
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Taking control of Belgium!
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The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon
Yesterday, the State Department said that it can’t find any emails belonging to Hillary Clinton’s senior technology staffer from when Clinton was secretary of state. Then Hillary said (WIPES OFF HANDS), “You also won’t find that staffer, either.”
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Hants
Colin Powell had Jammie roots, many others have succeeded. I have met many good Jammies BUT the facts are the facts so the Pols should try to Solve. How come the most dangerous gangs are Jammies in many different nations/ cities?
Just because Jamaica has produced a high proportion of murderers and criminals in NO way means that the majority of Jammies are not good people.
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MoneyB. ..re the Weston video….scary for whom. I told both you and John, I believe in retribution, I believe when you sow the wind you reap the whirlwind….this paradigm shift that’s about to envelope Europe is the result of centries of sowing the wind…ditto the US…let them figure it out, they know only too well what they have done.
I am no fan of muslims, their religion or their disgusting culture, particularly toward females, but this is the result of the actions of those who combined and colluded to steal land and oil many years ago, these are the results of the manifestation of their centuries old greed.
Who is surprised that Cameron allows his greed to speak for him, centuries old greed. I would not lose a night’s sleep over their predicament.
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WW
U may lose several nights sleep when one of your family members gets blown up.
The retribution at WTC took many lives of Muslims and others that are innocent, including Bajans. This behaviour will lead to Right Wingers in Europe taking control by some means.
Merkel is an East German joker that will soon be gone BUT when the Germans rise against this Islamist nonsense it will cost many lives.
Anyway the World is vastly overpopulated and with Robotics (R’s make $3.23/hr) Automation and much more happening , CULLING the populace is likely.
Remember, when the US etc gets pushed around the leaders will soon decide to point the Guns out rather than have the muzzles against their breasts.
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WW
BTW it is scary in that these Radical Muslims will kill Blacks with Whitey and not care. Who do you think was in the Stade du France when they tried blowing it up? I would bet many Afros were in attendance, they like me love Soccer and I remember one black gent saying that he saw the bomber guy and was waiting on his son to come out of the toilet.
When innocent Black people are blown up will that count as Retribution?
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@MB, what exactly is there about the Weston video to be troubled about? I agree completely with WW&C. Moreover the process is as evolutionary as life. It does need to be addressed but not using Trump’s methods.
Based on historical records it’s quite easy to imagine a group of Native American chiefs siting in their meeting tepee and having a very similar discussion like in that video re the white-man and their wagons pushingr west.
The Native Amer. would have used their own analytics of the day. Thus an equivalent Chief Weston would have related that unless they stop the the white-man who were spreading too fast that many moons in the future they would be too powerful and would take over the Indians’ land .
They tried to stop them. And of course he was right.
So I believe there is more than ample understanding of what has to be done.
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Driba
Read what i wrote above.
The black man lives amongst Whitey and will pay the price of Muslims (radical) trying to dominate.
The part that was scary is the idea that these fellas can Rape young girls and get away with it, maybe U think that is ok butI will clearly say that if it was my daughter the Funeral Directors would be having a field day!
This old guy not frighten, I will be Fighting! This shyte will be stopped real soon.
Is their a gent like Trump in Europe too? U BET!
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MB, don’t go off on these silly tangents. I do not subscribe to any Islamic cultural (or otherwise) life style behaviours which are completely ridiculous to me.
That matter of men raping a child is ridiculous. It does not fit British or US law and customs and therefore surely could not have happened exactly as described. So I am not going to get drawn into a nonsensical debate on what is clearly an illegal act.
Obviously radical Muslims will hurt all innocents regardless of colour. My point was that the laws of the US or Britain must be imposed effectively and practical strategies implemented to manage all immigration.
This is not a new phenomena as the Well, well also quite perfectly suggested.
Whipping up hysteria of xenophobia is NOT the way to go. Practical people have already spoken to this issue and cautioned about not making the same type of mistake with the Japanese internment camps for example.
Trump’s exclusion program smacks of that racist extremism.
All practical Americans understand that they cannot just open Ellis Island for waves and waves of immigrants. Realistically that was NEVER the plan.
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Dribs
I am pleased to learn that U dont intend to be nonsensical.
The radicals sure do have that intent and will eventually will have to be dealt with.
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Dribs
Trump said that Washington’s Immigration people did not have a clue and so Muslim Immigration should be stopped until Washington gets its act together eg check Social media, develop a risk list like– where they went to school, small town versus big city etc, have they been to really rad countries.
This would be a logical approach. The USA does not need Muslims and since there is a major risk of Trojan Horse syndrome why throw the doors open wide? To my knowledge NO other religious group entering the US (or West) has come with the concept of domination using their own laws –Sharia which are inextricably linked to the religion. Stay where they come from if Domination OR Sharia is desired, afterall it was working very well in their home country, aint?
Only an idiot thinks that all Muslim immigration is good for the West, some sensible Muslims sure. I would insist that they sign a document commiting to certain concepts ie NO Sharia
Dont like that, dont come.
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MoneyBrain May 11, 2016 at 8:00 PM #
YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CANT HAVE A MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION WITH A BETZPAENIC MORON
HOW DO YOU EXPECT THIS IDIOT TO BE LOGICAL?
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look who the BUSH brigade would be lending financial support Hilary Clinton Trump with all his big braggadocio talk about how filthy rich and does not need big business support has single handely piss off the well oil financial machine of the GOP and now for lack of dwindling funds needs their support and many of them have said HELL NO
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Trump is a bigger terrorist than the muslims sitting on all that money only a jac kas of the GP persuasion would believe that TRUMP got all that money by legitimate means, Hell only a swindler would not want to release his income tax papers
The media has been asking Trump to release his income tax papers and he balks and belly aches but the question is what the Hell does Trump got to hide ?
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MB…there are black people everywhere they will be thought of as collateral damage, does that sound familiar. ..it’s the new excuse for killing everyone, no big deal…weren’t the slaves who died crossing the atlantic seen as lost cargo, no biggie….when slavery abolished thought of as lost stock and merchandise.
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MoneyB. ..I happened to be on Rector Street the morning the 9/11 mess unfolded, just down the street from both towers. The evil of men and their contrived madness, the reprecussions of their evil actions can unfold anywhere, at anytime as I witnessed myself and can affect everyone, no need to be afraid
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No need to be afraid or to permit Trojan horses to enter our part of the World either.
These people been pissed off at the West since all their attempts to totally conquer have been rebuffed. The Ottermans ganged up with the Germans and lost everything in WW1.
It is time to show them a lil of what we have– ELIMINATE ISIL all 30-40,000–they bombed their own Muslim brothers in Baghdad today, they have killed thousands of Muslims and other minorities in the region, brought in women/ Muslims mainly from the West and then raped them or pass them around like chocolate bars. ISIL must be eliminated!
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Have Hilary tell the truth for a change about the Top Secret Emails, Benghazi, the method she uses to hurt women more than Bill does, how she cons the matronly old ass “feminist” in to supporting her AFTER she treats women so very terribly!
Hilary has all the characteristics to make any man hate White women!
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@MB, I must presume that you are fully aware that Donald Trump’s remark which you rightly say seem logical were made simply to generate hype and hysteria. Anyone who appreciates the skill of showmanship and motivation and inciting support must hail Trump as a master.
You said at May 11, 2016 at 8:00 PM , “Trump said that Washington’s Immigration people did not have a clue and so Muslim Immigration should be stopped until Washington gets its act together eg check Social media, develop a risk list like– where they went to school, small town versus big city etc, have they been to really rad countries.”
That was complete bovine pasture patty-cake. He surely gained another 1/2 million (and one) supporters though. And that’s all that mattered.
Reality check…
“Refugees are subject to the strictest form of security screening of any class of traveler to the U.S. before they are allowed to enter, with extensive background, security and health checks. The resettlement process is run by the State Department, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services. DHS receives refugee referrals from the U.N. refugee agency, UNHCR, and then begins vetting candidates for resettlement. Specially trained DHS employees travel to the country where a candidate is residing to conduct in-depth interviews to ensure the individual meets the criteria as a refugee and does not pose a security risk to the U.S. …
That process frequently takes 18 months or more, meaning refugees are arriving in the U.S. at a very slow pace compared to the numbers by which they are arriving in Europe.”
— usnews.com/news/articles/2015/11/20/8-
Let’s dismiss the Trump bluster. But let’s also accept- as I said previously – that the US cannot allow all and sundry to their country. That is true for Muslim immigrants as it is for all others.
It’s also clear that there will be errors as no vetting process has ever been perfect. Thus this happens…
” The discovery in 2009 of two al Qaeda-Iraq terrorists living as refugees in Bowling Green, Kentucky — who later admitted in court that they’d attacked U.S. soldiers in Iraq — prompted the bureau to assign hundreds of specialists to an around-the-clock effort aimed at checking its archive of 100,000 improvised explosive devices collected in the war zones, known as IEDs, for other suspected terrorists’ fingerprints…
“As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.” abcnews.go.com
So I congratulate and agree completely with Trump when he said at another time that the Iraq war NEVER should have happened. Then we would not be at this point, would we.
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@Dr GP, for a man of your age and scholarship you are extremely puerile.
Fah sure you have excelled as a supporter and contributor to the BU site and according to the blogmaster and others excelled as a scholar and a professional medical practitioner.
A pity you haven’t been able to extend that excellence to maturity, as well.
But that’s why we blog right, to piss and parade as we like sans those filters you use at church and in society.
More power to you den, Hypocrite GP or should that be Puerile GP! LOLL
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MoneyB. ..YOU show them, it’s a smart black person who would know not to get involved…ya see….ya cannot stop collateral damage whether ya get involved or not…..and….when ehitey decides they want something these people have again 10 years into the future…they will sell blackeys ass to get it, or kill blackey to get it or send blackey to die to get it….whichever is most feasible…lol
Blackey would have to be an idiot to get involved…blackey should have learned by now, so it’s your job to fight off the muslims MoneyB.
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Whitey…MoneyB. ..whitey..lol
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WW
Very true BUT “Whitey”, The Controllers, will also send many other whites to their death. The Controllers are no longer all whiteys though as big money gets one into the club!
HUMANS can be corrupt or corrupted or innocent participants eg many US soldiers had no interest in fighting in Vietnam especially as they knew they were not receiving the very best support from leadership.
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Indian Hindus praying for a Trump Victory due to Trump’s attentin to the Muslim screening process.
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MoneyB, …having a son that went to Iraq twice, I can now write whitey’s script, maybe even better.
Blackey is yet to learn that “patriotism” is a ploy, many will pay with yheir lives to learn.
The whites who will be sent to their deaths will be the ones who really believe patriotism is real and that it really matters, the ones who knows it’s crap, mostly and namely the armchair warriors creating the war, death and destruction….keep their children at home.
It has played out many times before and will play out again…until people learn.
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Dribs
Do U really expect that Washington DC is going to issue a mea culpa????????????????
“We in Washington have a very detailed process” is exactly what U should expect them to say.
Who said that Trump was talking about refugees?
Do U seriously believe that the info coming out of Refugee lands are likely to be accurate? The place is in complete CHAOS!
If the DHS guys go to these lands who are they going to talk to—People who are desperate for their family and friends to get out and who are looking for $$$$$$$$$ and therefore on the TAKE!
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Thinking people know that “patriotism” is far too often a con, pure brainwashing.
The elites have always been willing to send others to an early grave mainly to add to their Net Worth Enhancement Plan via military equipment and supplies. However, although Whitey is a major factor ALL racial groups play this type of game where practical.
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de pedantic Dribbler May 12, 2016 at 4:41 AM #
DRIBBLER YOU CAN DRIBBLE ON BUT YOU DONT HARM ME WITH YOUR PITHY PITIFUL PUTRID AD HOMINEMS
IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU ARE BETZPAENIC AND ILLOGICAL
I HAVE EXCELLED AT MANY THINGS
AND WILL CONTINUE TO EXCEL AT MOCKING YOU TO SCORN WHATEVER YOU SAY
MOCKING YOU IS GREAT FUN
WHENEVER YOU ERR I WILL MOCK YOU AND HOW YOU UP TO beTHE TWIT YOU ARE
THERE IS NO NEW CRICKET ON WILLOW THESE DAYS SO I HAVE THE TIME
IS PUERILE THE ONLY WORD YOU KNOW?
DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT MEANS.?
I WISH TO GOD THAT I WAS STILL A “PUER”
WHEN YOU GIVE UP BEING A PUER YOU GO MAD, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A BETZPAENIC TO MOCK
MB IS WRONG NOT TO PERCEIVE THAT YOU ARE A BETZPAENIC IDIOT WHO CAN NOR REASON LOGICALLY
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GP
I am just trying to enlighten Dribs with real world experience and concepts.
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MB
YOU CAN CARRY A JACKASS TO WATER BUT YOU CANT MEK HE DRINK
YOU CAN CARRY HIM TO A COLLEGE BUT YOU CANT MEK HE THINK
HE BETZPAENIC!
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MoneyB. ..let’s hope Trump sends his sons and grandchildren to the next patriotic war and Hillary does the same.
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http://ow.ly/DOlo3008V0G
MoneyB. .I say jail her ass and sort it out later, looks like they got Clinton coming and going.
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Hil only cumming with lessies as Bill has plenty better supply. lol
The difference between Hil and Trump is that we know her messed up track record of failure whereas with Trump we really dont know what he would do as he surely has said anything to attract voters to capture the Nomination, bloody idiot alienated females which is DUMB!
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Ah-ha stalker Dr. GP. Puerile best describes a grown man who pops on his keyboard to initiate these fights unprovoked. You apparently can’t resist that control aspect of your domineering personality.
So, puerile Dr GP mock as much as you want. I will not bite first but definitely will bite back when you do. Like your favorite guy The Don loves to do.
Incidentally as you are the star with the etymology of words and all that. A discussion of hypocrisy could include …” YOU DONT HARM ME WITH YOUR PITHY PITIFUL PUTRID AD HOMINEMS” as compared to “YOU ARE BETZPAENIC AND ILLOGICAL… AND [i] WILL CONTINUE TO EXCEL AT MOCKING YOU TO SCORN WHATEVER YOU SAY”.
The hypocrisy of course is that both statements come from the same person.
Oh and another one for your word discourse: ‘ad hominem’. When a grown man uses a string of negative adjectives to assail and pays absolutely no attention to what is actually said then THAT is what one calls ‘ad hominem’… Not being called childish when you are clearly acting the part.
BTW, are those two words Latin or Greek? I don’t know. I do know that comedian Redd Foxx would have told you ‘it’s the big one’ and then affirm they likely mean ‘Up Yours’ !
OK stalker Dr. GP. Oh lawd!
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poor DRIBBLER you still talking through your shelves of HOUSTON?
THE ONLY WORD YOU KNOW IS PUERILE?
I AM A BOY……puer, pueris, m, boy
YOU DONT HARM ME WITH YOUR PITHY PITIFUL PUTRID AD HOMINEMS …i just laff because you dont
yOU ARE BETZPAENIC AND ILLOGICAL……..is the truth as you demonstrate on a daily basis you have a lack of Betz cells
re When a grown man uses a string of negative adjectives to assail and pays absolutely no attention to what is actually said then THAT is what one calls ‘ad hominem’
ad hominem means simply against the or a man…….ad with the accusative of hominis
it seems prefects at your school didnt learn latin
IT IS NOT MY FAULT THAT YOU ARE BETZPAENIC AND ILLOGICAL
I WILL CONTINUE TO EXCEL AT MOCKING YOU TO SCORN WHATEVER YOU SAY
MOCKING YOU IS GREAT FUN
WHENEVER YOU ERR I WILL MOCK YOU AND SHOW YOU UP TO beTHE TWIT YOU ARE
THERE IS NO NEW CRICKET ON WILLOW THESE DAYS SO I HAVE THE TIME
MB IS WRONG NOT TO PERCEIVE THAT YOU ARE A BETZPAENIC IDIOT WHO CAN NOT REASON LOGICALLY
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Get a room and screw or murder each other……
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A Trump presidency might serve to restore purpose and direction within some community. Some people think of the weather only when they see dark clouds overhead.
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*communities
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@Gazer, can’t do the screw thing. The doc personality would not let me be on top. ONLY place I wud be with a bullpistle…
And docs only bury those murders that result when they make mistakes from their bad actions. Obviously he don’t mek mistakes…
And I ain’t murdering no body in real life. So it’s bloggy murder!…………….
Dr GP, I really forget all dat Latin that I never knew- illogical as ever – so never never knew that ad hominem thing. Lord forgive, me!
You sure de Red Foxx translation doesn’t work better for you?
I know that vi et armis means by force of arms or something so… I was wondering if vi et GP would mean by ‘force of gross puerility’.
We can be children together here.
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@MB chatting with you is interesting. I pasted the quote re the current refugee process after initially omitting “Specially trained DHS employees …” because of exactly what you said. But then I left it because it painted its own picture that there is a vetting process (non-effectual though it be) at the camps …So that part of your response I get clearly.
But you really pulled a Messi dribble with “Who said that Trump was talking about refugees?”. I am starting to doubt your bona-fides with these discussions. Oh lawd. Lolll.
Who did? Trump did. The entire debate has completely been about repudiating leaders like Chancellor Merkle for allowing the waves of people seeking.refugee status.
Thanks for the help but your real world scenarios have an interesting tendency to go directly to your biased talking points rather than be really, REAL honest.
For the record Trumps’ comments indicated someone who wanted to inflame. Not someone who is looking at the issues rationally and in a.real way.
No country which experienced the acts of 9/11 will open their doors to possible terrorists. That’s plainly stupid to think so.
And it is therefore insulting insane for a Donald Trump or a MoneyBrain to suggest that the US will adopt inefficient, porous immigration processes and cavalierly implement them. So let’s end this other nonsensical debate.
You believe Trump rhetoric paints a practical picture. I do not.
When he becomes the next president I suspect we will then see exactly how real his asinine remarks were — 40% tariffs with China; capture and deport 6+ million Mexicans, just so; force Mexico to build a wall and of course stop all Muslim refugee immigration for the next five years.
The Donald certainly looks physically REAL presidential to me though. And I would accept that the chances of him being Pres of the US are looking better (for him) every day so we may likely all see just just how real is the rhetoric.
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re Dr GP, I really forget all dat Latin that I never knew- illogical as ever – YOU GOT THAT RIGHT YOU ARE ILLOGICAL how can you forget something you never knew you ass
so never never knew that ad hominem thing. ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE CAPABLE OF LEARNING?
re was wondering if vi et GP would mean by ‘force of gross puerility’.how could ya fool!
vi et GP must mean by, with or from force and GP
you are indeed THE IGNORANT ONE!
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You must forgive me. I should have first suggested ignore…
By now both should be tired
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Dribs
Merkel is an IDIOT to let at least 5,000 Jihadists in. Let them all keep their backsides in the ME.
Why has the rich ME not stood up for their Muslim people???
Why did Canada let in 25,000 that should be Christians if any and or other sub groups that ISIL/IS is murdering daily?
Q For the record Trumps’ comments indicated someone who wanted to inflame.
Sure he is a MASTER MARKETER who wants to get people excited so he wins the Nomination, he understands that people want an AGGRESSIVE WASHINGTON OUTSIDER. Dr Ben thought he could appeal by being quiet and sensible BUT the people are MAD as HELL and dont want anything but aggressive action men. Mind U Dr Ben would not have received too many Afro votes because he would be a RepubBlood Uncle Tom in many eyes. PITY!
How come Bernie is doing so well? He appeals to much the same people but those are Leftie/ FREE everything people ie Students who seem to believe the US will have Free Uni Education—not going to happen. Personally I certainly dont believe that clever minds should be wasted and certainly the US system can be ridiculously costly. More reasonable costs with provision for poor people to be accommodated with big discounts BUT they must pay at least a little when they start working. FREE develops bad attitudes, life is not FREE.
All social programs should come with strings attached ie low cost Education, beneficiaries should have to maintain a certain grade average and other ways to show Commitment and Discipline.
Dribs, the US has Opened Doors and Jihadists are there (plenty sleepers)! The current system is NOT stringent enough and must be. Please stop fooling yourself.
Unlike U, I believe Trump is selling to his target market very effectively and has the ability to change tune when required. Trump should appoint top notch people to his Cabinet and have great advisors. Trump has been Dumb to alienate Mexicans and especially females, he probably could never have appealed to most AfrAMs who probably wont care to vote in record numbers this time.
I never said building an actual wall was good or other of his points U raised, good try at placing words in my “mouth.”
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@MB you are truly an interesting debater. YOU – not me – have been expounding on Trump’s verbose rhetoric re actions about Muslims and advancing the view that he is “selling to his target market very effectively”. And then you say that he must change the tune when required.
Now this is the self same person who posted a video showing all the duplicitous words of Hilary Clinton. Classic!.
You tell me that “The current system is NOT stringent enough and must be”. This for a country that has more intelligence and security agencies than letters in the alphabet. A country that has revamped and reorganized and reconstituted all those agencies repeatedly since 9/11. I was just reading Gen Hayden’s (former NSA an d CIA boss) book and to hear him clarify what they have done these many years is mind bowing.
Yet you are convinced that one blow-hard real estate magnate has all the right answers to the immigration and security problems and that these men who have given their lives to protect their homeland just don’t get it and have completely fooled people like me into thinking that they do have some effective measures in place (despite failures)!
Ok bro, carry on smartly. In Trump you trust.
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Interesting day in the US today, Zimmerman places the gun that shot Trayvon up for auction saying that he would donate some of the proceeds to fight BLM Movement.
Then Trump’s ex Butler no doubt listening to his master’s voice wrote on Facebook that Obama should be shot (MB is he mad too?)
MB you said Trump never said anything racist about Obama, what did I tell you about dog whistles?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/05/12/secret-service-to-investigate-after-trumps-ex-butler-calls-for-obama-to-be-killed/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_trump-butler-obama-threat-7pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
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Republican presidential frontrunner Donald Trump appears 3,540 times in the ICIJ database. However, over the years Trump has sold his name and reputation to investors, meaning the appearance of his name does not necessarily link him to offshore accounts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gobankingrates/panama-papers-leak-donald_b_9897812.html
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If Trump would sell his own name nearly 4,000 times for shell companies, no one is safe, he might even sell you MoneyB.
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WW
Slavery in done?
Trump is clever BUT I have never and would never buy from him. Told people here in Toronto NOT to buy into his hotel here. They did not listen, so now 5 yrs+ later they are suing Trump.
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MoneyB. …. know the hotel, saw it just off King Street, but this is the dude you want as US president, a known fraud, out and out scumbag, liar, scam artist and as his daily actions imply, someone never to be trusted…you hate the American people or what…lol
Trump and his gang of criminals should not be allowed within 500 miles of Washington. I bet you dont want him as Canadian premier.
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http://ow.ly/RYsV300aG2T
MoneyB. ..what did I tell you about these scum, they take money from mideast leaders, just give it a little time and you will hear how many millions Trump also takes from leaders in the middle east.
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It is true that many Pols and the really rich are scum. The question is which scum is better and so I will give Trump a try as Hil has a very poor track record in leadership positions and dealing with female victims of Bill’s. Bernie is a delusional Leftie so will ruin the USA.
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We found a political joke that puts Trump, a Mexican, and a Muslim together, and it goes a little like this…
An illegal Mexican immigrant, a radical Muslim, and Donald Trump were walking together on a beach in Florida when the Mexican stumbled over a bottle in the sand.
He picked up the bottle, rubbed the sand off it, and a genie appeared.
“I can only grant three wishes,” the genie said. “Since there are three of you, you may have a wish each.”
Pointing at the Mexican, he said, “Since you found the bottle, you may have the first wish.”
The Mexican said, “This country is racist against my people! I wish to take everyone of Mexican descent back to our homeland where we can finally be happy and live in peace!”
The genie clapped his hand and the illegal Mexican immigrant was transported to Mexico will millions of “his” people.
Turning to the radical Muslim, the genie asked, “And what is your wish?”
The radical Muslim said, “This country is bigoted against those who practice Islam! I wish to take all of my people away from this horrible place loaded with infidels so we can live in peace in Muslim countries and serve Allah.”
This genie clapped his hands and the radical Muslim, along with every other Muslim in the country, was instantly transported to the Middle East.
Turning to Donald Trump, the genie asked, “And what is your wish?”
Trump looked around at the empty beach, smiled, and said, “Just give me a Pepsi. It doesn’t get any better than this!”
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“We could have saved Benghazi,” a whistleblower in the Air Force stationed at Aviano Air Force base in Italy, said.
The man added his squadron was ready, able, and eager to fly to Benghazi and rescue the Americans pinned down at the embassy during the terror attack in 2012.
“I definitely believe that our aircraft could have taken off and got there in a timely manner, maybe three hours at the most, in order to basically at least stop that second mortar attack and have those guys running for the hills,” the Air Force member added.
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As Secretary of State, it was Hillary’s call, why do you think some call her Killary, but dont worry, Bill knows how to work Hillary, check this out…lol
http://ow.ly/s0jR300aRig
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AfroAm former Congresswoman speaks on Hilary.
This lady makes tremendous sense.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/alabama-woman-obituary-not-vote-donald-trump-article-1.2637036
Take a look at this one MoneyB. ..she forgot to add in yhe obit that Trump should also be in prison, never saw a field of canditates so deserving of orange jump suits.
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“If you think to that iconic picture of her on a C-17 flying to Libya, she has sunglasses on and she has her hand-held device in her hand, we have no emails from that day, in fact we have no emails from that trip.” Hillary Clinton lying? You don’t say?
Gowdy continued, “So it strains credibility to believe that if you’re on your way to Libya to discuss Libyan policy there’s not a single document that has been turned over to Congress. So there are huge gaps, and you know, with respect to the President, it’s not up to Secretary Clinton to decide what’s public record or not.”
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At a time when former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton should be focusing on beating billionaire Donald Trump, she may spend the next few months just trying to beat the rap.
New evidence shows that her alleged mishandling of classified documents was so careless, she practically handed them directly to foreign spies.
And that negligence could lead to charges that carry a 10-year prison term.
Reports have surfaced that the Russian intelligence agency has tens of thousands of Clinton messages from her controversial homebrew email server. It’s reportedly deliberating whether to release them publicly, or file them away for the time they will do maximum damage.
Letting classified documents fall into a foreign government’s hands, especially though negligence, is a clear-cut violation of federal criminal law.
Marcel Lazar, a Romanian hacker who goes by the monicker “Guccifer,” told Fox News this month that he had broken into Hillary’s private server. “It was easy,” he said – so easy that at least 10 others had reportedly compromised the server as well.
One of those other hackers may have been with Russian intelligence. Last week, Judge Andrew Napolitano said, “There’s a debate going on in the Kremlin between the Foreign Ministry and the Intelligence Services about whether they should release the 20,000 of Mrs. Clinton’s emails that they have hacked into.”
According to one report, Lazar had tried to hack “Russia Today” and used a server based in Russia for his work, leading Russian agents to spy on him. When he learned Clinton’s information, the Russians learned it, too.
Lazar apparently managed to hack the account of a close Clinton family friend, Sid Blumenthal, a politico so slimy his nickname is “Sid Vicious.”
Now, Lazar says, he used clues from Blumenthal’s emails to compromise the secretary of state’s home server, which contained 22 “top secret” messages, by secretly plugging into an open port.
Lazar was the first person to reveal the existence of Clinton’s private, unsecured email server in 2013.
But did the Russian government really breach Hillary’s private server and gain state secrets? No one knows for certain except top Russian spies. But again, experts have said consistently there’s every reason to believe Moscow has all of Clinton’s email records.
Russia, China, and Iran have “likely” hacked Clinton’s email, sources have said for more than a year –including former Obama Defense Secretary Robert Gates, former Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell, and Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.
That could damage America’s future regardless of who gets elected this fall. At Forbes magazine, Paul Roderick Gregory writes, “If Putin rules out blackmail, the Kremlin could selectively leak damaging information to U.S. allies and enemies that would weaken the United States’ hand in world affairs” for years to come.
Clinton’s failure to safeguard classified information appears to be a clear and serious violation of the Espionage Act. The relevant part of the law, 18 USC 793, says that anyone who handles important national security documents with “gross negligence,” so that they are “delivered to anyone,” or “lost,” or “stolen,” is guilty of a felony.
The guilty party “shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.”
In the eyes of the law, it doesn’t matter whether Clinton had shady motives in using a private e-mail address and server when conducting national security discussions.
It only mattered that she didn’t secure thousands of national secrets in her possession.
Experts such as Judge Napolitano and former Attorney General Michael Mukasey agree that Clinton’s actions broke the law, and she should serve real jail time for the careless way she handled state secrets.
In each Clinton scandal – from Whitewater, to perjury, to taking bribes through the Clinton Foundation – the Clinton’s have managed to skate on a technicality, like what “”the definition of ‘is’ is.”
This time, there may be no place left to hide, and Clinton may finally have to face the music.
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Michael Chertoff endorses Hilary Clinton remember him #White Water
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-chertoff-hillary-clinton_us_57f24e9be4b024a52d2f9a48
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