Solutions Barbados Blames the BLP and DLP for High Debt to GDP

Submitted by Solutions Barbados

solutions_barbadosManaging our national economy can be likened to managing a home. While there may be complaints about the food, washing, maintenance, and other services, if the mortgage loan is not repaid, then the occupants will suffer the trauma of being forced out of their home, and their previous complaints would become entirely irrelevant.

We are being manipulated into making complains about government services the primary criteria for judging the performance of those managing our economy. The primary measure of their performance is the risk to making those mortgage payments. Complaints about services is an important secondary concern. Of course, if we were not in debt, then the service complaints would become the primary concern.

Continuing with the home analogy, the bank (IMF) recommends that our debts not exceed 40% of our gross salaries (GDP). They have now grown to over 135% of our gross salaries and we have received repeated warnings by the bank about our ability to repay the debt. Concerned citizens have implored the current administration (DLP) to listen to better advice, but the DLP seems intent on only trusting their current advisors until the bitter end.

Many think that the solution is to go back to the previous administration (BLP). However, they brought us from the safe debt of around 35% GDP to the unnecessary 90% GDP on the sorry excuse that low-interest loans were available. It takes no special competence to negotiate a low-interest loan if you are within the safety of the responsible 40% GDP debt ceiling.

It should be noted that while the 2009 Moody’s downgrade occurred during the current DLP administration, Moody’s blamed the downgrade on the recklessness of the previous decade, which started when the BLP crossed the debt ceiling of 60% GDP, which the IMF recommended as the limit for advanced economies like Germany. But we wanted to ‘punch above our weight’, and used the deficit financing option irresponsibly.

By the measure of risk to repaying our loan obligations, crossing the safety of the 40% GDP debt limit to over 90% GDP, and more than doubling the national debt from $4.3B to $9.2B, must rank the previous administration as our worst. The current administration is behaving as if that is an enviable position to pursue.

https://solutionsbarbados.com/2016/04/14/brace-for-impact/

Best regards,
Grenville

79 comments

  • in a booming economy what was the need for the OSA administration to engage in such heavy borrowing .it would be interesting to know what where the terms conditions of the loans and what were the influences/factors involved that permeate an environment for such action

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    What about the current loans…again I ask, if there can be no turn around in the economy in 8 years, how can it turn around in 28 years by DBLP. An economy with a 1/4 billion population was turned around in 7 years, jobs galore. What is the problem with a 14×21 island populated by 270,000…what is the problem with the leaders.

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  • they dont know what they doing

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  • GP and you do! is that why your backside is stuck in that hell hole

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  • better than being stuck in bim under fumble and the dees ah lie?

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    @ David, I notice that both Solutions and the CUP ate using the expression “next party”. May I claim royalties?

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  • Jeff Cumberbatch

    *ARE

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  • @Jeff

    Not sure the SB will appreciate the comparison. Grenville has been hosting lectures, writing voluminously in the press and social media, on the talk show etc. What has the CUP been up do except braying about land fraud?

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  • Good idea but poor execution and cannot work as a one man show.

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  • The new jamaicain administration run on a promise to cut taxes. I am expecting this blp to use a similar tactic. But buyer beware unless the blp can state how they are going to reduce debt and restructer and diversify the economy on lower taxes the the promise of tax cuts would only serve the rich while the poor would have to pick up the slack in service fees
    I also remember another influential person by the name of Ronald Reagean using a similar strategy called trickled down economics..Buyer be Beware

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  • @Kammie

    How do you know that it is a one man show? Give Grenville some time to work his strategy. He is not a JA you have to admit.

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  • Keep at it Mr Phillips and dont be dismayed if you come home with an empty bag next election.Trust and believe Bajans will be forced to vote in alternatives as the next government will be a monumental failure as well.Perseverance seldom fails.

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  • Bernard Codrington.

    @ Jeff. I somehow preferred “Ate” as in gullible.!!
    @ac you should not really anticipate what will be in the BLP manifesto based on what was in the JLP’s manifesto. The philosophies of the two parties are fundamentally different. The only things they have in common are the L and P.

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  • Bernard Codrington.

    The analogy of a mortgage chosen by Solutions is unfortunate. Mortgages are usually more than four times the size of the borrowers’ annual salary. These are only rules of thumbs . That is a starting point. A more fundamental analysis is also carried out based on character , track record of the borrower etc. In the last restructuring process in the 1990s investors put GOB debentures in their investment portfolios and kept them to maturity. Such is /was the reputation of Barbados acountry noted for making sensible decisions in its finacial affairs. Has anything changed since then?

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  • Construction funded through borrowing under the BLP, and civil/structural engineers used:
    Kensington Oval – CEP Ltd
    Judicial Centre – CEP Ltd
    GAIA – CEP Ltd
    Grenville Phillips I I – Director, CEP Ltd 2004-2011

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  • With the ageing population growing in Bim it would be usefull to hear a discussion on reverse mortgages from any of the parties looking to lead this country and hopefully BARP will continue to air this point.

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  • @enuff

    What is the point you are making. Did CEP tender for the work? Did CEP respond to an RFP?

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  • reverse mortgages lol ….the companies would all go bankrupt, every week somebody new reaches 100 I cant imagine how many 80 or 90 year olds.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Lol….longevity will kill them off…lol

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  • One word–TRANSPARENCY. Or is that selectively and or situationally applied?

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  • The analysis here is one dimensional. The underlying reason for the sky high debt is not just that leaders are incompetent and reckless.It is that we have a political system that requires elections every five years, and most of the voters are poor, greedy people who put relentless pressure on those incompetent reckless leaders for handouts and freebies. The voters are plundering the state, and they hire the most corrupt party available to help them do the job.
    We would be better off as a British colony with an unelected governor.

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  • @enuff

    Why not state what is on your mind? Are you suggesting that Grenville should discuss contracts entered with government when he was part of CEP?

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  • Would any one give a person their businesses! their house or property to manage when their style of management resulted in unsustainable ! unsecured and uncontrollable debt that is how the BLP administration operated and managed the Barbados economy in fourteen years
    Now the LOOP comes out with excrement with her attacks and criticisms hash tag “culture of silence ” how about for once her involvement by engagement with the population int a “Culture of Solutions”

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ mr Phillips

    Let me start by saying your heart is in the right place and you do essay to respond civilly to all who query, confront or assault you.

    So, without much ado about my past observations let me see how I can assist in what you and others like you are seeking to do for Barbados.

    There are certain streets in this world where if you went with your pristine proper manners you would be chewed up and I say that to gently suggest that your ideas about how you will treat white collar and other crime need to be revisited and revised in light of the realities that we are seeing across our Bim.

    I get the impression that you are already well aware of your strengths and your weaknesses but, because your forces are not at critical mass as yet you are keeping quiet with the hoe that this will happen through osmosis. There is nothing wrong with being a force of one but if you indirectly convey something other than that status through statement like “the rest are not prepared to show themselves right now” after a while their absence becomes an albatross for you and some may accuse you of lying.

    A force of one is good, if I, like David, “come to slay you in the name of the Living GOD”

    You may have already realized that David while chosen by the Lord for the first task was not appointed to build the Dwelling Place of GOD, you may champion SB but may have another lead it.

    The “undecideds ” around Barbados form a huge chunk of the population rather the electorate today and your message has to resonate with them, ten years in business and ten employees, will not cut it, that absolutism of qualification is a recipe for disaster and will kill your initiative in utero

    People want integrity and commitment and competence and while there is no dna test to definitively confirm that, the task is going to be to use all means to convey that to the audience.

    If Patrick Todd can be voted in then you can run a goat in The City of Bridgetown and possibly be successful. The thing is that Bajans are tired of the ineptitude of Bostic or Todd both of whom sit in the government benches and do nothing.

    We collectively see where nothing, at a monthly salary of $17,000, has gotten us.

    A Solutions Barbados which said that it would run on a commitment that none of it members would take a salary for its first 3 months in office would’ in addition to getting you noticed, would show the financial stolidity of your candidates as being people of means, prior to going into politics

    The commitment of the leader of that party to say that he will not take one cent for 6months until his duly elected party resolve 1. Integrity legislation 2. Freedom of Information and 3. The Power of Recall would be an additional jumpstarter for your lukewarm movement.

    Publish your tax statement and assets today to show that you are a man who lives by his words.

    The thing is that few of you have a clue about how , in the absence of anything, to inspire confidence in the people who right now have lost faith in the BLP and the DLP

    Success favour S the bold. Stop with these mamby pamby sentiments and get real serious people as advisors on the key issues that will permit the smooth running of our economy that is required today.

    Your current slate of proposals are at best not “real-world and at worst well….I shall be kind and say that they need refashioning

    You have to ensure that you are not offering the people the same jobby as the rest of charlatans while lobbying Mia

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “and most of the voters are poor, greedy people who put relentless pressure on those incompetent reckless leaders for handouts and freebies.”

    Chad…that would make the voters poor and NEEDY and they are kept that way by both political parties so that they can accumulate and grow yardfowls…..every 5 years, they repeat.

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  • As a predominant Back country we (Barbadians) must be motivated to protect the Black brand.

    One of Britain’s first black judges is thrown out of the profession

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    And Chad..why do you want to go BACK to colonialism…why not ask for shackles and chains while ya at it, dont go half way, ask to reinstitue slavery too….damn.

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  • Violet C Beckles

    This man have no idea about why Barbados in this mess, He feels all is well and he can run a business with out knowing the cause of the pain in Barbados. . He is still not willing to charge and lock up Ministers nor Lawyers for crimes. Nothing will change if they win, He is a 3rd Party not the Next. He is not on the side of the people, but on the side of the business man. He was giving a book by a white man at his meeting the book title first word was LAND.

    @ lawson , they cant do reverse mortgages without clear titles deeds, unless you go where it all started at FIRST CARIBBEAN BANK , just wait from an AUDIT. SO WE CAN SEE WHERE THEIR ASS-SITS.

    VOTE C.U.P FOR CLEAR TITLE DEEDS.

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ WW&C

    That wasn’t what Chad with all the 9s said.

    He said that the poverty of the majority of the people in conjunction with the endemic mendicancy coupled with the term of office, exacerbated by the poverty of the elected and the paucity of ideas they bring leads him to propose that independence was not a good choice if, with these so called self determinations we now possess we are so bad off

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    In the above case, protecting the “black brand” means protecting oneself and the brand from engaging in anything dishonest and low class that in her case brought disrepute to herself and the profession.

    It would be nice to see some local lawyers practicing their usual crap in UK or US and eventually get to watch themselves in the media…after.

    I am told that some local lawyers help insurance companies not only falsify witness statements, but help bribe false witnesses to testify and lie, before a judge in the supreme court. …In such a case….all the players, from the jnsurance executives, their lawyers and back down, should be imprisoned for decades, how is thst protecting the black brand.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    Piece…I understand perfectly what Chad said….but what he dont get is that the behaviors of these political asses, is a direct symptom of colonial rules aftermath.

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  • No! I am saying if you’re going to write an article criticising government for borrowing money, which funded projects that you benefitted from personally in a professional capacity, you should let the reader know. Especially when at the time of collecting the cheques, your sacred 40% was long exceeded yet you remained silent. Is there a document by Grenville during those years of him criticising the over 40% debt to GDP? I can remember him criticising the absence of a building code.

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  • Grenville means well, but this particular challenge is a bit much for anyone.

    The FACT however, is that he is technically correct that it will take EXPERIENCED and PROFESSIONAL business leaders to successfully manage a billion-dollar economy like ours, that is ALREADY in disarray.
    ANYONE who suggest otherwise has to be ignored as an idiot. The idea that someone who would NEVER be considered to manage ‘Piggies’ in Shereton could be expected to successfully manage the whole country is ludicrous – no matter how many brass bowls feel so…

    Politically, of course, there is NO POSSIBILITY that a party of businessmen will EVER be elected by popular vote in Barbados. In any case, given the couple hundreds years of our history when exactly this arrangement was in place, NO ONE in their right mind would even WANT to see such an arrangement again.

    The solution is ,of course, already on the board via BU’s Ten-Point plan.

    We elect our parliamentarians as normal (selling votes and all ..if that makes us happy)- and fill the HoA with typical Bajan brass bowls as we have been doing…
    …only now, we will LIMIT their roles to GOVERNANCE, ceremonies and shiite -talking.
    To manage the country’s business, we then advertise, recruit and hire professional managers (like any serious BIG business would).

    The politicians can pass laws, cuss each other, trade insults and generally have a ball…. and the managers are insulated from their direct political directives …since they report only to a special ‘Cabinet’ that is concerned only with meeting performance targets and to a National Supervisory Committee …that is concerned with transparency, integrity and the rule of Law.

    This way, Grenville gets to have his (obviously needed) professional management, and Bajans get to elect their sweet-talking shiite-hounds and political comedians as is our wont…

    @ Enuff
    Stop talking shiite do!!
    So if some idiot decides to blow his fortune by buying some luxury that he cannot afford in the long term should a businessman in the business of selling such luxuries refuse to sell to him…?

    LOL
    …you just vex because, like Bushie, Grenville CORRECTLY pinpoints your man OWEN as the ROOT cause of our current peril…

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  • @Bush Tea

    Grenville should expect to be attacked by the establishment. Did you listen to statsman yesterday on the talk show?

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  • @Bush Tea

    Sorry, switched the comment to this blog. He is entitled to his view. What can one say.

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  • Bushtea
    Like I said, selective. Get thee behind me you hypocrite!! Wunna just talk the talk, but only walk when it suits wunna, that’s why Thompson fooled wunna. Public policy and management is not the same as private sector management. Not to mention we are talking about a private sector that depends heavily on government contracts and rules bending for their “success”. What transformative policies these so called business leaders (Grenville says business owners/EMPLOYERS which is not necessarily the same) can bring to the table? Tax free salaries for civil servants?

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    The Bushman’s 10 pointer should be a starter in moving us away from the repetitive and nauseating analogy and constant references to colonial times, that has become a very useless and constant reminder of being stuck in a time warp, too easy to fall back on, definitely time to move onward, upward and upgrade those brain cells.

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  • @Enuff
    Like I said, selective. Get thee behind me you hypocrite!!
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Skippa… NOT Bushie and that shiite yuh hear?!!
    You probably want Peter…

    Look back on BU and you will see that Bushie was cussing Owen LONG before Thompson usurped Mascoll…
    Owen was always intelligent enough, man enough, and experienced enough to take the steps NEEDED to get Barbados back on the right track.

    ADDITIONALLY, he understood better that most, the DIRE consequences of NOT doing so… (as can be seen from the same impromptu speech at that Public/Private sector consultation…)

    But instead, he got caught up in CSME shiite, and found himself personally UNABLE to deal with the money-hungry leeches running some of his ministries…

    Conversely…
    Poor Fruendel has NO CLUE what to do….or even how to wake up…
    David Thompson just wanted power and money… and was also too compromised to deal with corruption…

    So no point in blaiming the clueless Froon…and..
    Thompson already paid his Karma..

    Shiite man… Grenville is right…
    …the only one worth cussing is Owen… he has sense and should have done better.
    ….You too… 🙂

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  • @Bush Tea

    Arthur attempted to deal with the army of occupation and other challenges by appointing many many consultants.

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  • Who the cap fits. On that note have a nice day.

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  • Bush Tea April 16, 2016 at 7:55 AM #

    Chuckle….Bushy….could you point out these individuals and their countries…..

    The FACT however, is that he is technically correct that it will take EXPERIENCED and PROFESSIONAL business leaders to successfully manage a billion-dollar economy like ours, that is ALREADY in disarray….

    Would love you to name individuals in the international bussines sector as well.

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  • @ David
    Arthur attempted to deal with the army of occupation and other challenges by appointing many many consultants.
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    He actually UNDERSTOOD the danger….
    …which is why Bushie likes to cuss his donkey (and Enuff’s 🙂 ).

    BUT….
    Not only did he appoint lots of ‘consultants, but he also created lots of shiite departments that only adds to the problem while allowing him to talk about initiating ‘solutions’…

    The Productivity Council is the second biggest waste of money in the whole public service. Bunch of jokers walking about talking shiite …while national productivity falls to record levels.

    The biggest one of course is the ‘Office of Public Sector Reform’ … ha ha ha LOL ..he created YET another of the same shiite entities that needed closing down…

    The Defence Force Sports program is the funniest one though… they hire the best sportsmen from the various clubs to play for the BDF …so that this waste-of-time entity would seem to be good at something….

    @ Enuff
    ….man don’t go…
    COME BACK NUH….
    Bushie done cussing yuh…!!!

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  • When devious adults enthrall other simple minded adults with puerile comments such a “Barbados is more than a economy…” the result is unfortunately disaster. See our future in

    However Solutions Barbados has NO solutions.

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  • Enuff:

    Your irresponsible comments are the ONLY reason why our candidates are encouraged to continue maintaining their businesses and employees, and not become publically associated with Solutions Barbados, regardless of the very reasonable and fully justified requests that they be revealed now.

    Our candidates care too much about their employees, their families and dependents to risk them being unemployed in this challenging economy – which is exactly what your comments may achieve. The risk is substantially lower if we are closer to the general elections.

    I have promised to clean up this vile political trench, that can destroy professional reputations that took decades to build, as much as I am able, in order to prepare the way for our candidates. I have also promised to protect our candidates from wicked persons like yourself with all of the resources available to me. May you fall into the same pit that you are trying to dig for others. After you have suffered there a while, please contact me and I promise you that I will pray for your release.

    Needless to say, you do not have my best regards at this time.
    Grenville

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  • @Grenville, rule #1 despite being human never poke anyone in the eye when they have poked you in the eye. The barbs will come and if you cannot take the simple criticisms it will deflate your passion. How are you selecting candidates? How will these 12 mystery persons remain unknown when they canvass? Stop the excuses if you want to be taken beyond AIDA aka Attention Interest Desire Action.

    Oh by the way, the suggested removal of public servants from paying income tax is a bad move. The 10% tax rate is a suggestion totally unsound that would guarantee Barbados becoming a failed state beyond Haiti in a matter of days of Solutions Barbados becoming the government.

    Be ever mindful, they who angers you, controls you. Always remember to DTIP!

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  • @Kammie

    Anything to report on the Green Party that was mooted last year? Doesn’t the Cahill fiasco provide a good intro?

    @Bush Tea > > Arthur attempted to deal with the army of occupation and other challenges > by appointing many many consultants. > > >

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  • @Grenville
    I merely stated facts gleaned from CEP website and your own information online. I did not fabricate my comments; nor did I say you were wrong to benefit from government contracts or questioned the legitimacy of such contracts. My position was, and is, that you should have disclosed that you were involved in projects funded by monies borrowed. I guess doing so would have shed some light on some of the reasons for borrowing and would have poked some holes in your reasoning.
    The fact that asking for the “next” party to be transparent is seen as wicked says a lot about you. How can you be serious about cleaning up the “vile political stench (sic)” but ignore the lack of transparency, which many belief to be a prominent feature of the same stench and is often highlighted here on BU and across the length and breadth of Barbados?
    You speak as though you’re guaranteed victory at the polls. In the event that Solutions loses the election will it’s candidates’ and their employees’ welfare no longer be of concern?
    In closing, there’s no need to pray for me as I suspect any prayers from you would be insincere. Best regards.

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  • Grenville Phillips posing as a Barbadian version of Diogenes is so pathetic.

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  • Hi PUDR:

    Not taking a salary for a period of time is a god idea. Thank you. An improvement is that collectively, the cabinet should not take a salary in the first month until activities that can reasonably take one month to accomplish are completed – like abolishing the lifetime pension arrangement for politicians, abolishing the power of politicians to appoint civil servants, addressing any corruption through fines, starting the ISO 9001 process in government departments, etc.

    We can then extend that to no payment after the 3rd month if the 3-month critical activities are not met, eg, whistle-blower legislation, training PS’ and their assistants in project management, returning statutory corporations to the management of the PS’, reducing taxes, starting a new national bank, etc.

    Hi Enuff:

    During the last BLP administration, the economy was growing. Therefore, there was little reason to complain about the economy. Like most persons, I believed the Government and did not examine the financial statements. I heard the debt complaints of Mascoll, and his desire to ‘lock horns’ with Arthur, but I assumed that they were disagreeing on academic economic arguments on which I was unqualified to comment. As the critical person courageously warning Barbados about our reckless debts, his inclusion into the BLP now makes sense.

    I assumed that the Opposition or the media would explicitly warn us if we were taking on too much debt. I do not think that the IMF reports were as easily accessible to the public as they are today. I was more concerned about the inefficiency of the public service and other domestic matters, and I both wrote and spoke formally about them – not the debt.

    Enuff, we were living on borrowed money. During this time we more than doubled our national debt and exceeded the safe 40% GDP debt limit to over 90% GDP – hastening us to the non-negotiable directives of the IMF. Ask the Guyanese whether their 70% devaluation (in one year), doubling of income tax (in one year), and 75% of the population in poverty after the IMF stabilization programme was worth the cost of the excessive borrowing.

    Regards,
    Grenville

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  • @Grenville

    A downside to the recommendation in quotes is that quality candidates will be dissuaded from serving in politics to replace those who now enter to pay the bills.

    Not taking a salary for a period of time is a god idea. Thank you. An improvement is that collectively, the cabinet should not take a salary in the first month until activities that can reasonably take one month to accomplish are completed – like abolishing the lifetime pension arrangement for politicians, abolishing the power of politicians to appoint civil servants, addressing any corruption through fines, starting the ISO 9001 process in government departments, etc.

    We can then extend that to no payment after the 3rd month if the 3-month critical activities are not met, eg, whistle-blower legislation, training PS’ and their assistants in project management, returning statutory corporations to the management of the PS’, reducing taxes, starting a new national bank, etc.

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  • @David,the idea still exist and ever so often mooted but like most things bajans very few willing to put up themselves to scrutiny. Thus, Grenville, must be commended. Perhaps, Mr Phillips will reach out to advocates and NGO`s to recruit candidates.

    @Grenville. can you answer my questions posted earlier.

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  • I am not going to even touch that response. I will let the readers draw their own conclusions.

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  • Enuff:

    You did not ask a question. You simply employed a time-tested political smear in a proven effective manner. Now that could be intentional or unintentional – please re-read your original post and judge yourself.

    You must be aware that professionals cannot discuss their client’s business. You are free to accuse me of any financial, personal and professional impropriety and I will happily defend myself (since I am unaware of any proverbial skeletons) or publically apologize if an issue unknown to me is revealed. You are also free to ask me to disclose anything, and I will respond provided that I do not violate any code of professional ethics. But you should stop, or learn to avoid trying to damage highly reputable and successful companies.

    Regards,
    Grenville

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  • @Grenville, are you ignoring the two questions I asked of you in my earlier post. Why fight with Enuff?

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  • Hi Kammie:

    -1- I can take simple and severe criticism, but I will push back on innuendo designed to harm the innocent, which has been practised in our parliament. Hence, we plan to remove the parliamentary privilege that currently allows politicians to defame others without consequence.

    -2- Most of our candidates approached us. I did approach 3 individuals on the basis of how they managed their business and their high level of personal integrity.

    -3- We want Employer level experience with a high level of ethical behaviour.

    -4- They will remain unknown until they are ready to come forward. I will not be financially supporting them or their employees, so the decision remains theirs.

    -5- Taxes are paid by the private sector to support the Government. Asking Government employees to pay income taxes is an indirect way of increasing taxes on the private sector. Remember, the private sector pays the wages of the public sector.

    -6- Please read the research paper I referenced in the presentation to observe that reducing taxes increases government revenues.

    Best regards,
    Grenville

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  • Hi Kammie:

    Item 6 should have read “reducing tax rates”.

    Best regards,
    Grenville

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  • @Grenville, thanks. Corey Layne will contact you to set up a meeting as we think BIM and Solutions Barbados need to be a collective, if a third party is to be taken seriously.
    Please remember, you don`t have time on your side and you need to mobilize your teams in the various areas. Food Security,imported inflation, land use policy and increasing national productivity are just some of my concerns. Remember the doctrine of Servant Leadership if you want mass buy in.

    When are we going to hear others speaking on issues under the Solution Barbados banner?

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  • de pedantic Dribbler

    @Grenville, the arguments with @Enuff are mindless and are indicative of a barb used previously to puncture your political foray: you are not READY.

    How on earth did you expect that people would react to your adventure into politics? The remarks by Enuff were quite frankly mild and innocuous. You should have been able to respond to that smoothly and without the anger and pricked ego display of verbal petulance.

    Is it beyond my limited comprehension how can you be ready for the vitriol of politics with this naive behaviour to bland criticisms.

    I am also bemused by your remark to wit: “Our candidates care too much about their employees…to risk them being unemployed in this challenging economy …I have also promised to protect our candidates from wicked persons like yourself …”

    Is this a game of hide and seek or some other childish endeavor? As was posed above will these candidates not have to reveal themselves well in advance of any election and at that time and beyond will they not suffer the same victimization?

    Your remarks either suggest a palatable naivety; an absolute confidence of victory at the polls…or alternative you are are clueless as you said….

    I quote you on that : “… I assumed that they were disagreeing on academic economic arguments on which I was UNQUALIFIED (my emphasis)…”

    And again: ” I ASSUMED (mine) that the Opposition or the media would explicitly warn us if we were taking on too much debt. …”

    Unfortunately, those key words seem to propel your behaviour again!

    I mentioned this on either the first or second comment I made re Solutions Barbados since last year so excuse the repetition: your messaging and narrative are abysmal and cannot be continued if you want to be taken seriously. Get someone on board who can script your thoughts for public consumption.

    If you were ASSUMEING and UNQUALIFIED in ’08…what makes you the guru saviour now, Grenville.

    MESSAGING sinks many a worthy candidate!

    Enough, said indeed!

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  • Hi DPD:

    I was simply honestly stating how I felt and what I did at that time. You may prefer me to dishonestly invent an image for political messaging purposes. Sorry to disappoint you.

    Best regards,
    Grenville

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  • “Like most persons, I believed the Government and did not examine the financial statements. I heard the debt complaints of Mascoll, and his desire to ‘lock horns’ with Arthur..”

    But weren’t you at some point during that time the Deputy Chairman of the Ministry of Economic Development Advisory Committee and head of BCSI? How did you advise etc without knowledge of the financial position of government?
    If you’re so rankled by my factual, malice-free comments, when the political operatives with their PR elixir start campaigning you will be the one in need of prayers. Good luck.

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  • @ David /BU

    Please allow me to advised that this Watchman is not the said as the watchman on Barbados Today

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  • @Solution Barbados

    After hearing you on VOB and seeing your postings on BU, you surely need HELP with the solution, since it not the x time yet, what help do you need at this stage, that you don’t have

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  • @Grenville, you need to take heed of @de pedantic Dribbler advice. I said to you at Combermere that politics is about winning hearts and not for the faint hearted. You must be able to understand you are seeking public office and will be prone to criticism of all sorts.

    Please get a PR team in place before you damage your chances with your so called honest responses. You must not be tend skinned for then you will be worst than the BLP and DLP ministers in dealing in public criticism. A calm head is needed.

    Always remember to DTIP..aka Do Not Take It Personal. The barbs are to see if you are tough enough for the job.

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  • Just came in and saw DPD and Kammie’s advice to Grenville.
    I third their message. Kammie stated it all. Whilst you should always be honest, you have to choose your words carefully or you will knock yourself out.

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  • @TheGazer, you cannot win the hearts and minds of the masses by responding to every fire in a cynical way. You must know, not to accept an invitation to every criticism. How you feel does not matter as you must respect others opinions even if they are stupid or diametrically opposed to yours.

    @Grenville, you must be commended, nice to have you responding. Please get a PR team in place soon and understand politics is not for the faint-hearted. Your 12 persons cannot be serious about earning the required votes if they allow you to shelter them from barbs. SB will not have a chance if your 12 persons do not get out there and canvass support as well to as present a sensible alternative governance model.

    @Grenville, please contact Corey Lane asap to set up a meeting to discuss a #ANewWay with individuals who want change for better.

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  • Any team of aspiring politicians who are too afraid to come forward are but are wait for the beginning of a political campaign are POLITICAL OPPORTUNIST, pure and simple.

    We need fearless leaders and people of integrity not those who prefer to protect themselves and launch themselves at the last minute so as to minimize damage to themselves and their employees.

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  • @TheGazer, the above comments are referenced to you for the benefit of Mr Phillips and not directed at you.

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    “He also queried the use of indemnity insurance given the significant cost, and told his audience, which included members of the legal profession and various stakeholders, if we should require all attorneys to have indemnity insurance, when it was recognised that some attorneys would not be able to afford it. “…Do we require that attorneys who have indemnity insurance be able to say to clients that they have the insurance and those who don’t have to disclose that they don’t have it? That is the kind of feedback that I want you to give me. So, I am putting you on notice that… I will take a new Legal Profession Act to Parliament towards the end of the year. That is my promise and pledge to you,” he asserted.” (BGIS) – See more at:

    http://www.nationnews.com/nationnews/news/80140/reform-legal-profession-act-brathwaite#sthash.aiIQ3yAj.dpuf

    An excerpt from Adriel Brathwaite’s promise. As AG amd in charge of the judiciary why is it taking from 2010-2016 to get these acts up and running, the bar presidents have no power, why are they allowed by the AG to hold up forward movement.

    Indemnity insurance is a fantastic idea, make some of these lawyers start to practice honesty and since many of them get on so well with the insurance companies anyway, the relationship should be perfect…lol

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  • @ Grenville,

    I applaud you for having the audacity to challenge the two major Barbados parties. However, I have to admit that I feel deeply uncomfortable with you and your political ambitions. You come across as an elitist. I do not sense from you an affinity with your fellow working class Bajan negroes whether it be on a social, economic or a political level.

    Why do you believe that it is essential that you select candidates who are employers? This is both comical and absurd. Surely you do not believe this nonsense.

    In order to attract voters you need to cast your net wide. Have you not heard of the word called diversity? How much interaction have you had with the broader masses? Have you taken the time out to visit communities in places such as Bridgetown, St Johns and St Andrews where there are real social problems? Have you knocked on people’s doors in order to hear from these individuals on those issues that impact on their life or has all your research been desk-bound?

    Personally, I am now of the believe that your pitch to become the “third party” of Barbados has become a God almighty distraction to your country.

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  • I heard Mr. Phillips on the Thursday April 14 brasstacks program, and I was disappointed with most of his answers to the questions of the callers and emailers. He seemed ill-prepared, and the answers seemed to be Mr. Phillip’s personal views and beliefs rather than the well thought-out and researched policies and plan of aspiring political party.

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  • Personally i have no beef with Mr Greenville trying to kick against the pricks .however his expectations which accounts for ministers working for free would be met with plenty pressure both inside and outside of the region as labour laws would in effect kick in forcing Greenvill to abandon such a policy with swiftness
    Barbadians as usual acts if they lived in a distant world above the clouds where nobody can see or hear there noises except the opposite is true

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  • pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ Grenville

    AAs long as AC is against it you should employ it because it means that she and the party elite have assessed its efficacy and have determined that it is a vote catcher.

    Thatd dribble about Labour laws is her blowing cold air up your pooch since, as was the case with sandiford and the civil servants, if a 8% cut can be enforced on a nation what then of an agreement not to be paid for three months, until you deliver your mandate?

    I am giving you advice to win voter not to ef around with bunting from Abeds and motorcades.

    You are a weak speaker Grenville yet to understand what makes people tick.

    Let me give you an example of emotive speech.

    I make bombs!!

    Now to the reader that, in the post 9/11 age will draw attention, and even fear in some quarters, but if I adjust that sentence to say verbal explosives and that the things that I write are equally explosive and are designed to destroy their targets, like a bomb does, it emotes an imagery of obliteration of my political? opponents

    Your speech is devoid of “meat” and that required explosiveness and you need to enlist a team and learn a script.

    You never hung on a block did you?

    You can’t go into Bush Hall or Deacons or the Pine or Marl Hole and hang can you? It shows and unfortunately the people whose votes your party is going to need come from there and we can smell a fraud, even if you smoke a spliff wid us under de tamarind tree.

    Your heart is in the right place but if you doan try to learn real quick you are not even going to get back your deposit.

    One more ting.

    When you print your manifesto and say you and your colleagues ent tekking no pay for three months, when wunna donkeys are on the election trail not a man jack going come to get you to buy their votes because not only wunna going be BREK like them but because wunna put wunna money where your mouth is.

    Listen to the free advice and stop with that childlike pouty mouth thing cause Stinkliar and Mia going mek you their beatch on the political platform

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  • ole man tek off yuh blinders look again nothing for free …… the catch ……. wunna not paying us so wunna cant tell us wuh to,do

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  • Sir if or when Solutions becomes govt Greenville can not take it upon himself to remove standards and practices written into labour laws as for the protection to every person who is gainfully and legally employed which states that by law a person must received a wage for services rendered
    That law was put there with a specific intent. it would be mostly preposterous and illegal for govt who must adhere to those practices to believe or have in mind that an employee of the taxpayer must not be paid
    Furthemore Greenville and govt would be opening up to far more than criticisms or attacks but a possibility of laws suits which would be brought to bear formed out of a constitutional right based on fair and right labour standards and practices

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  • Well Well & Consequences

    So AC…you and DBLP only know about fair and right labor laws when it has the potential to affect a politician’s salary….all other times ya’ll ready to poison the labor union’s headquarters.

    What I think Adriel Brathwit should also do as AG, is legislate that each and every politician should also buy indemnity insurance, so that when they take bribes from business people, give away contracts to those same business people in exchange for the taxpayer funded contracts, steal taxpayers money, practice their nepotism, cronyism and sexcapades using the taxpayer’s office, lie to the taxpayers, mislead everyone and misrepresent using influence given to them by the taxpayers…….chase down international criminals to help them run scams on the taxpayers, give away the island in the Cahill-like scams….their insurers will be made to reimburse the taxpayers for the ministers’ nastiness.

    Seeing that the ministers and MPs get along so well together with the insurance company executives, being esteemed friends, business partners, having all types of bed related relationships…that should not be a problem, the relationship should be perfect…devoid of misunderstanding.

    An amount of 5 or 6 million dollars in indemnity insurance per politician should suffice….seeing as most of them are lawyers and indemnity for lawyers is being proposed at 1 million, politicians touch way more of the taxpayer’s money than lawyers touch clients….I think that is fair.

    What you think.

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  • Dear All:

    Thank you for your comments and criticisms. However, criticisms like hamicb65 (April 16, 2016 at 8:03 PM), which is reproduced below as an exemplar, are meaningless. Hamic needs to be more specific.

    “I heard Mr. Phillips on the Thursday April 14 brasstacks program, and I was disappointed with most of his answers to the questions of the callers and emailers. He seemed ill-prepared, and the answers seemed to be Mr. Phillip’s personal views and beliefs rather than the well thought-out and researched policies and plan of aspiring political party.”

    Exclaimer (April 16, 2016 at 6:21 PM) posted an exemplar of another type of meaningless criticism. He/she made a series of false accusations, then asked a series of questions, and then, without even waiting for replies to inform his/her conclusions, declared a conclusion anyway. Incredible. Clearly Exclaimer did not want a reply from me.

    AC’s criticisms were better, but strange. We were challenged not take a salary for 3 months. We accepted the challenge but proposed an improvement – not take a salary if reasonable milestones were not met. AC opposed the entire idea noting a violation of labour laws. OK AC, what if we agree to donate our salaries to the Salvation Army?

    Among the mass of unhelpful criticism (that which does not identify a specific deficiency to improve), they were some that appeared to honestly request a response. I will always prioritize time to respond to that type of criticism. Surprisingly, one came from Enuff (April 16, 2016 at 1:16 PM), who had recklessly tried to smear a private company – as he claims, without malice. Whether with or without malice does not matter – the end result is the same.

    Enuff asked “But weren’t you at some point during that time the Deputy Chairman of the Ministry of Economic Development Advisory Committee and head of BCSI? How did you advise etc without knowledge of the financial position of government?”

    My role was to identify and advise on activities that the private sector service providers and government agencies could implement in order to improve Barbados’ export capacity. National debt issues and policies were within the Ministry of Finance, of which I was not an advisor.

    Regards,
    Grenville

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  • This Granville Philips guy he’s hopelessly unknown doesn’t have a national profile looks a geek and his mouthing’s lack depth . Give him a pass mark for boldness . A better option for him would be to establish a smart business that brings in lots of foreign exchange and hires large numbers of Barbadians. If he pulls that off he gets the public’s attention.

    Good Lord drama queens Wayne and Tony Webster two fully grown jackasses along with Olutuye Waldron write unbelievable crap in the comments section of the media. Is Olu a Pan Africanist he claims? That guy pushes every position by the business elite against popular black government. His views for a Pan Africanist are stranger than fiction. The Webster clowns should be sold to a travelling circus. Two poppets who sicken readers with despicable and trite comments on anything progressive. If they are the cyber faces of the BLP whenever the elections are called the BLP will lose.

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