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Several days ago the Nation Newspaper published a letter from an individual. Unfortunately, we did not take note of his name, so, we will call him Mr. Letter Writer (but if any of you remember the letter and the date in which it appeared, please email us).

It seems that Mr. L. Writer was most displeased with Anderson Cherry’s display of the Barbadian flag on his skips. The reason for his displeasure being that a skip is no place to display our flag. Fair enough.

Cherry himself is no stranger to controversy (see here, here and here) and some may wonder: Is the flag on the skip a commercially oriented publicity stunt? Is he being patriotic in his own special way? Or, both?

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199 responses to “Cherry Picking The Barbados Flag”

  1. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    “Ultramarine: BCC148, Gold: BS0/002”

  2. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…ya talking crap…what flag what.

  3. pieceuhderockyeahright Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright

    @ David [BU]

    Was not sure where to put this. I searched for and appropriate blog and found dated ones

    Brussels raids: Paris attack suspect Abdeslam arrested

    @ Sargeant and Colonel Buggy

    Why so many officers in the vicinity?

    Why were special forces pointing their weapons at the windows when Abdeslam was being put in the car?

    Why did the French PM act the way he did?

    Do you gents think he will be kept alive, given what he knows?

  4. balance Avatar
    balance

    “Alvin Cummins March 18, 2016 at 9:23 AM #

    What Cherry is doing is wrong and disrespects our Flag. Why are people willing to try to excuse wrong as long as black people do it. If it is wrong it is wrong, who ever does it. ”

    What makes it wrong or right? If you drive around Barbados you will observe many Government institutions which do not display your precious flag and some of those displayed are worn and tattered. What respect or disrespect you talking about?

  5. balance Avatar
    balance

    “ERROL BARROW KNEW HIS PEOPLE WHEN HE ASKED THE QUESTION “WHAT MIRROR IMAGE DO YOU HAVE OF YOURSELF?””

    You people always quoting Mr Barrow as if you were privy to the innermost thoughts of a man whom his sister referred to as a patrician. Tell me if you know so much to which ‘people’ was Mr Barrow referring?

  6. balance Avatar
    balance

    “Alvin Cummins March 18, 2016 at 10:36 PM #

    CHERRY SHOULD BE CHARGED. THE PENALTIES ARE THERE.”

    From what I have been reading in this forum and the judicial report on clico the penalties are there for Mr Lowe and Mr Parris too.

  7. David Avatar
    David

    We all understand the point Alvin is trying to make. The flag (or the colours) of any country should be regarded with respect. The question therefore is whether the use of the colours by Cherry is not simply reflective of a very patriotic Bajan given his profession and track record.

  8. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    @ Alvin Cummins March 18, 2016 at 10:17 PM,

    I have just “waded through” your rebuttal of several of the BU commentators. For a man who always uses his age as a means of denigrating and patronising other contributors on this blog it surprises me that you remain as naïve as a five year old toddler in your level of thinking.

    What do you find so difficult to understand with Pieces’ contribution? What is the significance of how our national flag is appropriated by others when our leaders have immersed themselves in the culture of corruption?

    The notion of a national flag becomes significant to all once a country has attained a true level of democracy and equality for all her citizens; and in the case of Barbados, to have an honest debate on the country’s history; followed by the introduction of legislation which would bring redress to the slave descendants whose ancestors built Barbados.

    You cited Jamaica as a country which is patriotic. Jamaica is patriotic simply because it has always had an affinity to the African continent. When I last went to Africa, reggae music was been pumped out on the streets. Africans are heavily into reggae music.

    Jamaica has always paid homage to Africa unlike conservative Barbados which despises all things African. You are welcome to Rihanna! That you should include her in this discussion is proof to me you are a man who remains out of touch with everyday reality.

    Educate yourself! Take a look at what is happening in South Africa. You may be surprised that like Barbados they are governed by the corrupt and that they have their own “Williams” family. However unlike Bajans they are mounting a fightback.

    Alvin, dear boy, you can keep your two-bit worthless flag!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-35846831

    http://mg.co.za/article/2016-02-04-guptas-must-go-says-eff

  9. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin is talking crap.

  10. Bajan Yankee Avatar
    Bajan Yankee

    @Alvin Cummins, leave Cherry alone. Corruption by politicians is blasted wrong and you condone it with the largesse you partake in by accepting social invites and favors. SMH

  11. Bajan Yankee Avatar
    Bajan Yankee

    @Alvin Cummins, why de ass you don`t ask for Paris and his cohorts to be charged. You and Carson Cadogan should be charged for treason.

    Why don`t you ask for the resignation of Stuart, Sinckler, Carrington, Lowe, Mara and Estwick to resign.

  12. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @ Alvin Cummins March 18, 2016 at 9:13 PM…said ” The younger generation can never understand why we oldsters are the way we are.” Of course they can’t Alvin but that has not prevented them from forging ahead wonderfully in ways that many of your generation should be proud about.

    This issue of Fat Child Cherry is the proverbial non-issue. If he has contravened the rules related to representation of our flag then I suppose this would apply:

    —– “It should be noted that any person who contravenes or fails to comply with regulations…of the national Emblems and National Anthem of Barbados (Regulations) 1976, CAP, 300A of the Laws of Barbados is guilty of an offence and liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars or imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or both.”

    I have not studied those rules and certainly cannot rely on memory to determine if Cherry is contravening them here.

    But at a very basic level: this is Bajan created garbage ‘wrapped’ in a Bajan flag coloured skip. Mr Cherry has nailed the symbolism perfectly.

    —- The Bajan political, financial and societal garbage of current governance wrapped in nothing more than a veneer of patriotic colours with the broken trident of an Independence anniversary grossly superimposed up front and center!

    I suspect that is the genesis of your spirited anger…as (we) old folks tend to pick up the old-fashioned symbols quite well.

    Deal with it Alvin. Fat Child Cherry may be a part of the problem but he is forging a solution and he certainly did NOT create all this garbage!

  13. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    Bushie tell wunna LONGGGG ago, that Alvin is an idiot…..
    …and wunna still arguing wid ‘e ….

    Allright den …. guh long….
    …and while wunna at it, try and see if wunna can talk some sense into AC….

  14. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin is talking crap and should be locked up as an accessory for condoning the corrupt practices of the government and their criminal friends for crimes against thr people.

  15. ac Avatar
    ac

    Nothng wrong with having a personnel vendetta . but why use the flag as the messenger and the message.It would not solve what ever issues are related to goverance. The flag would still remain a symbol of barbados and barbadians. Many here have decided to mount the wrong horse in trying to effect change galloping backwards in their usual style

  16. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @ All uh wunna,
    This idiot will just say: “Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise.”
    And Piece, Sir Garfield Sobers should be mentioned, don’t you think? Or is he nothing in your eyesight..equal to or by passing Bolt.Do you know of him? He is from the Bay Land.Rihanna is from Westbury RoadIf your mother has to go to the Hospital for treatment of Cancer, some of the equipment that would be used would have been donated by Rihanna.She has given back, and is still giving back, so what more do you want?
    We had two Bajan young men row across the Atlantic? Is that an achievement worthy of mention or not?
    Bajan Yankee, locking up Parris; even though he has never been charged and found guilty of anything, would not solve anything. He sticks in all of you craw like a fish bone.Why?
    So many of you who write have a serious disease. Low self esteem, and inferiority complexes.
    Bajan yankee(legal pr illegal?) “….condone it with the largesse you partake in by accepting social invites and favours.” I don’t get no invites an I don’t get any largesse. I am a simple loyal cajan old man.It is in keeping with your yard ducks, to refer to MY FLAG as a “stinking worthless flag. The flag of the country that raised you, and through its ties, enabled you to be
    living in the “great” U.S.A. from where you can pour scorn on your country. Of course I am an idiot, a patriotic Bajan idiot. Water foo my back.

  17. David Avatar
    David

    We ALL have a right to an opinion.

  18. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    David March 19, 2016 at 8:59 AM #

    You are correct.

    I am still trying to figure out law the goodly gentleman has contravened….could Alvin tell me.

  19. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin…ya better be thanking the divine that your ancestors had the strength to survive the experience they had from the ones who gave you the flag…or did you just think up the flag on your very own.

    Ridding the country of corruption, bribers and bribetakers insurance executives like Parris and Harris who lay in their beds and dream up wicked schemes to steal from the policyholder, enrich themselves and bribe the politicians so as not to be arrested, is way may important than the flag at this present time, as it is you now fly a flag of shame….cause ya are exposed for everyone to see the hypocrisy of the last 50 yesrs.

    Ya talking crap…step into reality, then maybe you can be proud to fly a flag.

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Alvin Cummins March 19, 2016 at 8:55 AM
    “I don’t get no invites an I don’t get any largesse. I am a simple loyal cajan old man.It is in keeping with your yard ducks, to refer to MY FLAG as a “stinking worthless flag. The flag of the country that raised you, and through its ties, enabled you to be..”

    So Alvin, if you are so jingoistic in your patriotism to your country of birth and development why not pay your final dues before you leave this orb by repatriating like a true blue and yellow retuning national and contribute your knowledge and experience to the salvation of your divinely blessed homeland?

    Why let the likes of Cherry sully the symbols of nationhood by wiping the broken trident in filth? Why not return home, permanently, and show the people responsible for keeping the roads clean how to remove the debris and detritus and other residue from weeding within 48 hours at most instead of leaving the crap lying on the sidewalks and gutters for weeks on end only to find its way back into the same drains and gutters to pose not only an unsightly menace to pedestrians and drivers but also result in flood hazards.

    Come on Alvin, that is easy pickings for a Cawmere scholar, right up your Wellingtonian Street and certainly within your sociological pay grade.

    BTW, Alvin do you think that black woman who removed the Confederate flag should have been shot or burned by the KKK? After all, according to your line of reasoning, ‘a people’s flag is the embodiment of their pride’ which must be defended and protected at all cost.

    Are not the people whom you deem as ‘Confederates’ entitled to their share of pride for having fought in true patriotic fashion for their Independence from the North and their entitlement to keep black slaves as is their Judeo-Christian Biblical right even if they lost the battle but not the war of patriotism to their cause of jingoistic superiority?

    If only you knew the real symbolism hiding behind that Bajan Broken Trident you are so keen to defend. Is it representative of the break from a colonial past or one of Bajan Anglicanism from Greco Paganism (as you wish to see it)?

  21. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Alvin has totally forgotten how that flag was attained and whose idea it was, mit sure has hell was not his idea, the people had no say back then and still have very little now, except to expose the idiots and corrupt thieves…you should be ashamed to be condoning, enabling and protectibg crooks like Parris, Michael Carrington and David Thompson who stole from the people and then you stand on your soap box screaming about a flag….look go way.

  22. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    And what Alvin does not know, that he does not know is…that he is a living product, but not forever, of the post slavery scam….but I am more than happy to enlighten him, so he does not continue to go after a black man like himself..a man who is progressive and trying to do positive things, but prone to errors just like Alvin, the politicians and their bribers.

    Instead of the government helping, regardless of party affiliation, they send out their clowns like Alvin, to destroy one of their own, as programmed pre and post independence.

  23. Georgie Porgie Avatar
    Georgie Porgie

    re Well Well & Consequences March 19, 2016 at 7:01 AM #
    Alvin is talking crap.

    Well Well you are being redundant here Mam
    Please correct yourself and write ALVIN IS TALKING! THE CRAP IS A GIVEN

  24. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Lol…GP..the amount of misinformation Alvin spews on here, we should be able to patent it and name it ALVIN’S GIVEN CRAP…lol

  25. In and Out aka waiting Avatar
    In and Out aka waiting

    Swing Low March 18, 2016 at 2:54 PM #

    I am just amazed at the speed at which a black Barbadian is attacked by fellow black Barbadians but when ugly Bizzy open he mouth the other day to whine like a insipid and sickly little child about “the freest black country in the world” nobody ain’t open the mouths.

    A loud STUPSE!!

    Bang on swing low.

    Cheery is wrong to use the flag on garbage bins. He seems patriotic and with imagination he could work the blue, black, gold in the fashion of the Transport Board and Cow.

    Bajans are unpatriotic. Well Well, artaxes, miller , frustrated businessman etc. prove it with their words. Islands in the region are more patriotic than we. You’re lucky to glimpse a Barbados flag at events including king cricket. Fans from Montserrat, Grenada, Trinidad, Guyana et al wave their flags proudly not the locals.

    Bajan entertainers wear the Trini colors. If a hostile country attacked our land count on the majority of bloggers to join the invading force.

  26. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    I am a little surprised that with the long palaver re the discipline issue at Springer Memorial and in schools generally and too this apparently contrived issue of use of National Symbols that the very positive and meaningful efforts of the Foundation School to break the ABSOLUTE dominance of the same Springer in the National Secondary School Sports extravaganza has not been noted on these pages.

    Surely that is worth a few stirring words.

    That, Springer dominated for so many years and in so doing must have built an esprit de corps at that institution that really should boost moral as the high achievement and school traditions does for students at a HC, QC or of the many Waterford folks here is in itself a very compelling story.

    And that Foundation has now toppled them…well heh, the coaches and students have been hard at work!

    Congratulations to the lads and lasses at Foundation, Lester Vaughn and too the dethroned Springer…may all the hardworking kids continue to strive to stand atop the podium of life.

  27. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    Alvi Pelvi

    You see what I does the tell you about you. All that education, years of experience you have accumulated all points to your desire to project that inflated ego that fuels your delusions of grandeur. You does write a whole set of stuff, delving into history’s pages and showing all how well you have commanded the use of the English language. Yet, in all that you do, and try to prove, you come over all the time as a shite talker and loyalist sycophant. You are real shite hound fuhtrute tho tho.The flag is important to you, I got that, but you completely miss the relevance of what many here are trying to point to you. Sherry has not done one thing wrong when he place the symbols of our flag on his skip. Because if you can make mats, door mats, underwear, crutch cutters out of it, I think those are more demeaning than what Sherry has done. Wake up Alvi, spend some time with my sweet piece. He might as well be 23 because he certainly does not write. He is an old man who shows a lot of wisdom and understanding in his writing. You, on the other hand, is a darn pretender, too stupid not to realise the nonsense that you tend to write from time to time.

  28. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ In and Out aka waiting March 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM
    “Bajan entertainers wear the Trini colors. If a hostile country attacked our land count on the majority of bloggers to join the invading force.”

    Are you expecting an invasion by a foreign force? Is that why the budget for the BDF has been increased?

    Now why would foreigners want to invade Barbados a country already owned and controlled by foreigners and its citizenship soon up for sale at US$ 10,000 per passport?
    Even your laws, waiting, are now dictated by foreign forces.
    If you are really in control of your own laws why not let the “mock” gallows swing at Dodds instead of denouncing, in your sanctimoniously hypocritical garbs, the decriminalization of marijuana, a god-created innocent plant?

    Why fight against the inevitable legal acceptance of same sex marriage if, in true Christian charity, you believe marriage should be based on LOVE and not SEX?

  29. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    Who determines what is important, you?

    How about if BU backraise your issue by pointing you to the concern raised this week by Dr.Robinson that the country is underperforming in mathematics at e tertiary level.

  30. ac Avatar
    ac

    Dont expect too much support from selfhating Barbadians so far they are showing their true colours. Hatred for any thing that resembles or symbolizes the barbadian Spirit from the Golden jubileee to the 50th anniversary are all tell tale signs of their gungho spirit to drag the good name of barbados in the dumpster .
    Carry on smartly at your own peril

  31. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    In and Out wants the dirty secrets kept secret….Miller…but he is too late….all the nasty practices and behaviours by politicians, et al against their own people is now out there, ya cant get it back no matter how hard ya try…and then there is NakedDeparture in the background….Waiting….lol

    Sensible people would see what Alvin is doing…taken in it’s proper context, he is using the nicely painted flag of Barbados that Cherry painted on his skip, as he is free to do….Alvin is using that to destroy the man, a black man like himself….shame on you Alvin…I have seen the US flag painted on all manner of trucks….I will make it my personal business later this year, when I have time, to search out trucks in Canada with the Canadian flag of which Alvin cannot open his rear end to call for the arrest of any Canadian and post it to BU…you hypocrite.

    AC…hush, you will soon lose your yardfowl pick…just mark my words.

  32. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac March 19, 2016 at 11:57 AM
    “Hatred for any thing that resembles or symbolizes the barbadian Spirit from the Gold
    en jubileee to the 50th anniversary are all tell tale signs of their gungho spirit to drag the good name of barbados in the dumpster”

    You mean like what you and your ilk of DLP yard-fowls did during the last 5 years of OSA reign?
    Barbados was the worst place to live during that period (or so I heard), if foreigners were to judge from the caustically derogatory comments about Barbados and its leadership emanating from the then DLP camp.
    At least people had jobs and money to spend then. Even OSA was able to keep that $75,000.00 (or in your exaggerated estimation $750,000.00) CLICO cheque that should be return to the defrauded pensioners and policyholders.

    The Barbadian spirit has been broken not by the BLP (disappointed by not broken) but by the ruling Fumbling administration reign of lies and deceit.

    Who will ever trust politicians again after the current lot?

  33. Exclaimer Avatar
    Exclaimer

    @ Alvin,

    Here is a video for your consumption of a Bajan national hero.

  34. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    AC…what did I tell ya, ya’ll deceive and tell lies…ya cannot be trusted. Neither can the other party, but it’s not like the electorate has a third choice.

    Here is what is going to happen, despite Mia joining with Harris, Cow and Bizzy to get rid of social media so that they can all continue their corrupt, dishonest practices and behavior against the people, under cover of dark, she knows now it’s futile to be rid of the media, but it was not for lack of they all trying…..she still stands a better chance of being elected however, but she should know that she will be watched and everyone will know when she and the other corrupt souls start up their corruption..which translates to…ya’ll are going to get your asses thrown out, people are fed up.

    Ya cant say nothing because Fruendel, Adriel, Leacock and Co were also busy trying to get rid of social media to cover up corruption.

    So sleep on that…it’s not too late to change your bad ways, but am yet to hear of leopard changing spots.

  35. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @David at 11:43 AM …”Who determines what is important, you?…How about if BU backraise your issue by pointing you to the concern raised this week by Dr.Robinson that the country is underperforming in mathematics at e tertiary level.”…..

    Amusing editorializing.

    I highlighted one local Bajan story related to achievement. This Cherry issue is another…I absolutely don’t find the skip-coloured flag issue a compelling story line beyond it’s excellent symbolism of : Bajan Wrapped Garbage. You obviously do. That’s fine.

    But how does my highlight of ending 14 years of dominance suggest a desire to mandate importance of discussion…I simply find Springer a much more compelling issue.

    Actually so to Dr.Robinson’s comments re under-performance in mathematics are compelling…but you wrote about Cherry, not education… so no need to back-rise me!!!

    You have the forum to highlight whatever you find is trending or important…as any of us do really.

    As a tangent…there is at least one blogger who speaks with (in my view) a noticeable affection and reverence related to the schools playing First Div cricket years ago and too that once in a lifetime partnership between Craig and Ashby. Of course since then there are other feats that stand out for others during their school years…

    I believe Springer’s achievements are at the highest level of that sense of pride…thus it is a bit strange that you would perceive that I want to elevate it to any greater level of importance than anything else!

  36. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    BU did not write the article, BU highlighted an article posted by a fellow blogger.

    Springer’s success must be contextualized in a reality that Barbados Sports program is anchored at ground zero. Are you aware Barbados does not have a live national sports program?

    Look what you gone and do. You people are easily satisfied with mediocrity.

  37. Well Well & Consequences Avatar
    Well Well & Consequences

    Lol…Exclaimer….Alvin would see nothing wrong with the flag draping sexually suggestive and gyrating bodies of young men and women…in his mind that would sell Barbados, pimp out the island and young people for tourist money…he would have been of the Jean and Dina Sparrow era, selling ass for sailor’s yankee dollars.

    And to think he has a problem with an artfully drawn rendition of the flag on a skip, he is so mediocre in intellect it would not enter his mind that some very talented bajan was employed to draw the art work…we should ask Alvin how many Bajans he employs.

  38. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    de pedantic Dribbler March 19, 2016 at 12:45 PM #

    Two sides to every coin,is it not possible that all the media attention over garbage at Springer may have sapped their morale as opposed to your alma mater excelling?

  39. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    David, as an ‘editor/blogmaster’ its really helpful that you reason with a deep level of equanimity…in other words don’t beat up on folks at the Nation etc about balance and all that and do the very same confabulation of dippsi-doodling on your blog.

    In what context does your remark resonate with balance to wit: “Are you aware Barbados does not have a live national sports program? … You people are easily satisfied with mediocrity.”

    On what is mediocrity based David? Wasn’t the ‘non-existent’ sports program ‘mediocre’ when Wedderburn was an Olympic athlete or when Lynch was burning his 10.3 secs or when Wason made it to an Olympics. Surely it wasn’t when Obadele and the others who have followed him dominated? Was it!

    We can only perform with what we have; so compared to Jamaica or T&T we are way below standard in athletics and some other sports but how does that TAKE AWAY from what Springer has done here at home?

    Bro, please put back on your ‘editor’s’ hat..the one that balances perfectly on your head..fah real!

  40. David Avatar
    David

    @Dee Word

    You are aware we encourage anyone to challenge any opinion posited by BU? So what is your point again?

  41. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Vincent, I did not go school bro….at least not at Foundation. Was extremely enthused wid the sports gear their ladies wore at the stadium however. I don’t know bout you but they brought ‘scandal’ to athletics long before it was a real scandal. LOLLL.

    Just was trying to give some props to excellent achievements at both the schools.

    You do recall the days when your school colleague Greene went to HC and had them on a run of multi championships back then. I think your school also had its period under the same Wason as well…winning Boys and Girls one year and so. But none of them have done what Springer has done over a 14 year period….

    ….and yes I know that wid the co-ed process they have an awesome advantage as an all-girls school.

    But I would have to imagine it still took effort, discipline and motivation to achieve that…if not then I stand to be corrected.

  42. ac Avatar
    ac

    You blp operatives are so damn predictable. So predictable that everything u say is taken from the garbage pile. As they say misery loves company another inherited composite of the blp party carried on by the operatives who cannot garnered the overwhelming support from the populace on any given issue but quickly resorts to endorsing garbage issues straight taken right off the backload of a garbage truck

  43. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    Bush Tea March 19, 2016 at 1:21 PM #

    Yes I was there with Orlando and we were not co-ed in our time only some girls from St.Michael doing 6th form.

    Your point that despite the odds individuals like Sade and schools like Foundation have achieved…..yes it does say something of the resilience and work ethic of some bajans….a pity we cannot get them where it matters.

  44. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Dribbly
    Skippa, for a fellow as opinionated as you are, (and so poor at choosing pseudonyms 🙂 ) are you not touchy about being challenged?
    Why are you over reacting to David’s query?

    David’s point is not even at odds with yours …. he simply questions your prioritising….

    Sport in Barbados is a TOTAL and COMPLETE joke…
    There is no leadership; no structure; no plan; no organised national program and ABSOLUTELY no accounting of how the over $20M dollars-a-year is being spent.

    School sports took place in a dilapidated ‘stadium’ that is a national disgrace.
    The Gymnasium is to be closed for almost two years for renovations…
    The Kensington oval is a white elephant…

    ….BUT…we do have a state-of-the-art MUSEUM …to showcase the five or so athletes who have succeeded in spite of the broken system….

    Drawing conclusions about Foundation’s win over Springer may be a bit simplistic in the circumstances …won’t you agree ….’dribbles’ ?

  45. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    @Bush Tea, the nexus between you and the Blogmaster amuses me no end…no ah lie; it intrigues me! I got into his ‘kitchen’ re a lack of balance- no more no less – after he made a particularly disingenuous remark and I am ‘touchy’. So how you can so glibly interpret my response as being “touchy about being challenged” is beyond my simple comprehension.

    Intriguing! Anyhow here are some simple facts to ‘garbage’ your remarks.

    — Absolutely, every person who posts here is OPINIONATED. I am indeed guilty as charged. I fully expect a blogmaster will be too…just as I expect that he will be rational and balanced (as best as possible) on most issues. He can trend in whatever direction (liberal/conservative) he desiries but be balanced.

    That too much to ask Mr Deputy Blogmaster!

    —- There is absolutely no rational point in the context of what I WROTE earlier between Springer’s or Foundation’s achievements and your pellucid point of a dysfunctional or non-existent national Sports Program. NONE. They did what they did in spite of or despite existing conditions (old stadium etc). They still had to train hard and adhere to disciplined behaviors to succeed.

    During your days as a math teacher (locally I presume) did you not have to prepare your students for O and A level in spite of and despite the poor circumstances that prevailed from time to time which stymied student achievement?

    Bush Tea, I have absolutely no problem- NONE- about being challenged on anything I say/write but based on how you and other present themselves I certainly expect a decent degree of logical, balanced discourse. Not just attacks or remarks that are devoid of reason and just seek to validate a bias or strongly held view.

    Why is that so hard to ask from you and David at times. By all means give your opinion – that’s blogging – but if you are going to dismiss reason and logic then what exactly is the point !!

  46. David Avatar
    David

    BU is not a debating society with rules. If the blogmaster post crap in your opinion challenge it, we are not thin-skinned. Know though if you post crap we will challenge it. This is the differece between us and them, we all have a voice.

  47. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ Dribbly
    ..the truth is that Bushie just wanted any excuse to address you by your newly adopted pseudonym – which the Bushman URGED you not to acquire…

    Actually you and David can fist it out to wunna heart’s content…. 🙂
    Please….Just no dribbling…..

  48. de pedantic Dribbler Avatar
    de pedantic Dribbler

    Mr Blogmaster, even in de rum-shop, frankly yes you are very much still “a debating society with rules”…it’s just that its rowdy and people dus brek de rules all de time! Everything we do in life has some type of rules.

    And what is crap, really? If John makes a statement based on reason and details about which Peter disagrees strongly can Peter determine that John is talking crap and in turn launch into his reasoned position? So does Peter also accuse John of crap talk.

    What is the sense of that nonsense.

    I think we all know crap or ‘jobby’ – to use a word folks here are found of saying. It’s shouting, bias chat and regurgitated rants that are devoid of supporting reason. If I write a load of it then throw it back at me surely….

    Otherwise reason and logic…and some semblance of rational discourse!

  49. David Avatar
    David

    @Pedantic Dribble

    You can have de last word.

  50. Vincent Haynes Avatar
    Vincent Haynes

    dpD

    Just realised my 1.46 was meant for you but BTs name was appended incorrectly……you know that chap is like poonka all over the place….

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