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BU shares the Jeff Cumberbatch Barbados Advocate column – Senior Lecturer in law at the University of the West Indies since 1983, a Columnist with the Barbados Advocate since 2000 and BU commenter – see full bio.

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Musings: An evolving democracy (II)
8/16/2015
By Jeff Cumberbatch

“Freedom of expression is the matrix, the indispensable condition, of nearly every other form of freedom…” – Benjamin Cardozo, US jurist

I posited in the first part of this essay that two of the major contributors to any evolution in local democracy are an increase in popular freedom of access to official information and an expansion of the civic freedom of expression. While there has been no contemporary positive attempt by the state to effect the former, there has been an indirect, though as yet under-utilised, realisation of the latter, as I argued last week. This is owed in part to the common law development whereby there is now an overarching regard paid to publication of material in the public interest even if it may harm an individual reputation, so long as it is responsible, and partly to the locally legislated relaxation of some of the strict rules of defamation.

However, as I also argued in closing last week, freedom of expression for the purpose of evolving democracy goes beyond its theoretical existence and depends rather on the extent to which it is availed of especially by those who hold views different to those of the accepted prevailing dogma, be it religious, political or otherwise.

In this context, self-censorship poses a threat to the democratic ideal.

To what degree may it be fairly stated that we have this form of freedom of expression in Barbados? There are two undeniable facts. First, it seems clear that there is not now, nor has there ever been, an official governmental policy of suppressing the free expression of citizens, although certain individual statements have, from time to time, betrayed a certain discomfort with contrary opinion. These are too well known to bear repetition here, but suffice it to say that both sides of the political divide have seen it fit to accuse the local print media of being unduly adverse/supportive of their party or the other. The relatively recent online publication, Barbados Today, has managed so far to avoid this partisan censure, but no doubt its turn will come. Fortunately, to my best knowledge, there are no repercussions for the accused publications, beyond perhaps loss of the custom of a few ardent party supporters.

Similarly, the government-supported Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation has been accused over the years, not entirely without justification, of being an extension of the administration in power so far as its presentation of information and general ethos are concerned. A degree of popular cynicism has developed as a result, with a resigned acceptance by the party in opposition that our turn will eventually come.

It must be remarked, however, that the greatest impact on the breadth of Barbadian freedom of expression in recent times has been the anonymity of the publisher afforded by the popular call-in programmes on local radio and, to an even greater extent, on the equally popular blogs, especially Barbados Underground. It is true that the radio contributions are frequently more guarded – clearly it is not as easy to disguise a voice. On the other hand, the blog obviously affords far more security of anonymity and posters have exploited this to the full with their unbridled criticism and, in a number of cases, their unswerving support, of the current administration.

Even though this anonymity does not render the blog publisher or the contributor wholly immune from prosecution or from a civil suit for defamation, the complexity of the legal process and the potential claimant’s probable attempt to avoid the appearance of being thin-skinned currently ensure some degree of protection for the blogging exercise. I will have more to say about this on another occasion, since I am scheduled to present a paper on the liability for defamation of intermediaries such as “blogmasters” at the annual conference of the OECS Bar Association in September.

Not everyone will be partial to this argument that the advent of the blogs has improved the quality of our democracy. Barbadians, who are ever ready to refer to corresponding responsibilities whenever a right or freedom is asserted, will no doubt point to the probability of an irresponsible abuse of free expression, especially when virtual anonymity is guaranteed, and Pete Singer, the Australian moral philosopher, contends that “the new freedom of expression brought by the Internet goes far beyond politics. People relate to each other in new ways, posing questions about how we should respond to people when all that we know about them is what we have learned through a medium that permits all kinds of anonymity and deception”.

I note the force of these arguments but they are not persuasive. I am prepared to concede that freedom of expression is not absolute and that, apart from its constitutional restrictions, the use of that freedom to incite unlawful discrimination, hatred or violence, for examples, towards a group should be proscribed.

Likewise, the assumption of certain roles may serve to restrict an individual’s freedom of expression; consider the case of the Cabinet member who is opposed to an endorsed policy of his or her administration or, to be more personal, as the new Chairman of the Fair Trading Commission, it should not be thought that I would use this space to fulminate for or against the utilities or other entities under the regulation of that body. This is the point that I believe the respondents may be trying to make in the case of the forced removal of the retired UWI professor from the organisation, CHART, that he headed and whose mission might have been diametrically in contrast to certain sentiments that he publicly advocated. Some things just may not be said.

However, beyond these restrictions and the others previously mentioned, it should be difficult to justify the legal restriction of political speech, no matter how inelegantly expressed, simply because it does not comport with the view of a governing administration.

A distinctive effort
I was intrigued to read in recent days of more students than one or two in Guyana and Trinidad & Tobago who had managed to secure passes in as many as 20 subjects in one sitting at CXC. Indeed, in one remarkable case in Guyana, the young lady secured, if I recall correctly, a total of 21 passes, all with distinction. I am not sure that I could have even attempted the undertaking of 10 “O” Levels, as they were known over four decades ago, and I sincerely congratulate these students on their truly fantastic achievements. However, and with no attempt at all to seem niggardly in their asking, the enormity of their success does raise a number of questions in my mind.
Having witnessed in my day job an alarming decline in the facility of law students, usually the cream of their crop, with the written use of English, I am forced to wonder whether these distinctive performances at CXC also reflect equal merit in written expression.

Further, it would be instructive to learn the names of the 20 or more subjects examined at CXC. Are they all justifiably relevant both substantively and intellectually?

Finally, with these kinds of results, does CXC not fear conceivable and reasonable accusations of dumbing-down the standard of regional educational achievement?


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145 responses to “The Jeff Cumberbatch Column – An Evolving Democracy (II)”


  1. @Jeff

    Thanks for your analytical exposition of the subject. One of the disappointments of the BU household is the reluctance of local media to fully embrace BU. Yes we are critical of media houses in Barbados in the same way many are critical of ‘the blogs’ and BU but the difference it that we embrace the criticism, we discuss it, some may say we welcome it. Of course we have to intervene to protect the quality of the blog sometimes but such intervention is motivated not to censure commenters but to disrupt mischief.

    The other point your article provokes is the downside to democracy. On the blog we have to ‘’tolerate’’ rubbish comments posted by commenters with agendas or are ignorant to the issues, we allow because to not do so punctures a hole in the BU philosophy of unrestricted access given our commitment to freedom of expression. The same must be true of a governance system that allows al over 18 to vote even the dullards and the intelligent.


  2. The problem with being honest is that it becomes very difficult to play the political games needed to succeed in todays crooked world.
    As an example, Jeff is one of the very few writers who have had the honesty to admit the exceptional role and influence of the blogs – PARTICULARLY BU, on local life and on the basic concept of democracy in Barbados. Bushie would be completely unsurprised if the editors at the Advocate have second thoughts about such admissions being made publicly.

    Are you REALLY sure that you want that job with the Fear Trading Jeff? 🙂
    Do not accept any gift phones from FLOW.
    Apart from the bribery aspect, they are bugged…

    As far as CXC is concerned, this institution represents one of the single largest wastage of money anywhere in the region. Employing hoards of highly paid academics to do administrative shiite that could EASILY be purchased from international institutions such as Oxford, Cambridge etc, AT A SIGNIFICANTLY lesser cost …..and with much more credulity.

    CXC contributes nothing….and merely represents a mechanism to provide jobs for the boys and gals…and when Bushie comes across such outstanding results, the bushman is always tempted to speculate about the possible relationships that exists between such students and CXC employees with access to sensitive information…


  3. @jeff
    “Further, it would be instructive to learn the names of the 20 or more subjects examined at CXC. Are they all justifiably relevant both substantively and intellectually?”

    These two sentences hit the nail on the head. It would be informative to know the names of the 20 subjects and how relevant they are to the Caribbean community. I am hoping that the Caribbean has gone beyond memorizing and regurgitating facts. We need to teach our children to be innovative and creative in their thinking.


  4. Jeff, you have produced another gem here to add to your illustrious collection.

    Should we be considering a minor change to the title, “An Evolving KLEPTOCRACY.”


  5. CXC contributes nothing….and merely represents a mechanism to provide jobs for the boys and gals…and when Bushie comes across such outstanding results, the bushman is always tempted to speculate about the possible relationships that exists between such students and CXC employees with access to sensitive information…

    Deputy dawg alias bush sh.t ..shit man! you and your negative bull crap , man you have become the ‘Opening act” for lucifer ,Even the the innocent children you have attempted to bushwhacked with your over the top dispensation and toxic venom and sickening disregard for the children’s long weeks and sleepless nights of preparing for these examinations and for which they have been awarded,
    Bush sh,te you are one sick degenerate ! it is time you take your rightful place somewhere Under Ground,
    To think that you would go so far to point accusing fingers which removes ! blackened and darken these childrens images/ and accomplishments is sad and furthermore which steps in the way of capturing and demonstrating positive examples of black youth exemplary of erasing negative influence which has held back brought about by years to destabilize, precondition and stereotype the black youth,
    At least for once all should be guided by a decorum of positive conviction to uplift and not break down the praise and accomplishment to the black youth which are few but worthwhile celebration every so often in their lives,


  6. @Bushie,
    What negative and regressive bull crap!!! Are you advocating going back to the days when the examination papers were set and sent from England (that’s where Cambridge is. Isn’t it? and after the students finished their test papers were packaged and mailed back to England for correction, following which the results were mailed to the department of Education for dissemination. Maybe you want to go back to the days when only one Barbados Scholarship was awarded. You are just a Dodo bird, and those have been extinct a long time ago.
    What’s the matter with you? Why do you think you would be able to offer Jeff any significant advice. Jeff is an honourable man, and such honourable men don’t need such advice. They know instinctively what is right and what is wrong.


  7. @Jeff,
    Congratulations on your column. Shakespeare said it: “‘First to thine own self be true, and it must follow as the night the day thou cans’t then be false.”


  8. @Bush Tea

    The BU household is familiar with the CXC story and the time has come to position it under the microscope. It appears some here who have no clue how the CXC functions are prepared to label criticism as negative. What must be asked: what is it Glenroy as Registrar of the CXC will be able to achieve he couldn’t at the ministry of education?

    So Jeff’s question about the student who gained 20 CXC’s is relevant. Of course Jeff has to couch his language not so Bushie 🙂


  9. It is interesting that in the HC of the 1960-70s the highest number of Cambridge O’levels (to my knowledge)taken and passed at one sitting was 11 by a young Thompson and his classmate, my cousin, who got 10. I cant remember how many the Genius, Paul Steinbok, took but believe he was so young at A level that the Unis recommended that he study at A level for a second set in order to mature socially. He ended up with about 7 As. He is a World renown Prof of Pediatrics at UBC in Vancouver.


  10. My mistake, Dr Steinbok is a leading Pediatric Neurosurgeon globally.(he studied Neurosurgery as his speciality)


  11. Alvin Cummins

    Why do you insist on wasting your precious time, energy and the much needed space here on BU, confabuating with an intellect or lack thereof, who is of no real value to the BU readership than to berate, besmear and begrudged anyone that he perceives to be smarter than he is. Bushie is obviously lost in the backwashed of disillusionment, so my dear friend, leave this egotistical -fart to stew in his own juices where he belongs. He is a sucker for intellectual molestation, but as sure at the dog returns to its vomit, this sucker for attention will return to his intellectual abuse, time and time again.

  12. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Jeff

    My concern is not about the number of passes in one jurisdiction that might tend to dumb down CXC. I am concerned that there are a significant number of student in Barbados that are not entered for any subjects after five years of secondary education.

    At speech days when some of these unprincipled principals report 80, 90, and 100% passes, they neglect to also report that some of these classes had 25 students but only five were entered to sit the particular subject.


  13. It is worth a mention the criticism by general secretary of the DLP Geoege Pilgrim of the tradional mecia last week.

    1. The DLP has access to the social media, it is free. Why exploit if only during leadin to a election, general or otherwise?

    2. The government had access to the Barbados Advocate, obviously (blatantly?) pro government.

    3. The government uses the Caribbean Broadcasting Corporation – like all governments before it – to broadcast its message.

    4. And last, the government does not nurture a culture of good communication. Several of the ministers subscribe to a communications strategy of SILENCE or IGNORE led by the PM. They respond only if the sky is falling.


  14. @Caswell

    Good point and these are the young faces we see on our front page of the newspapers with grins while in handcuffs and on the a to Dodds after slaughtering a human bring.


  15. @ Bushie

    I believe you comments have some merit. The Barbados government pays for CXC examinations for students attending government secondary schools.

    If I’m not mistaken, secondary schools are divided into zones. The ministry of education should employ a group of guidance counselors and assign one or two to secondary schools in each zone, to assist students in “the areas of academic achievement, personal/social development and career development, ensuring today’s students become the productive, well-adjusted adults of tomorrow.”

    When a student decides on his/her career path, then he/she should study for the requisite CXC examinations, with English Language and Mathematics being compulsory. For example, if a student chooses Nursing as a profession, then that student should be guided to subjects such as Chemistry, Biology and Principles of Business. I mentioned Principles of Business because students should also be prepared for entrepreneurship.

    It is nonsense for students to sit 20 CXC examinations just for the sake of it. In reality, they need at least 6 and 2 CAPE for university. It’s simply a waste of tax dollars.


  16. MoneyBrain

    It is not my intent to hijack your conversation, but I have never heard the name Dr Steinbok slightly reference in the area of pediatric-neurology, even though I am regular subscriber to several medical magazines, as well as an avid reader of the latest in what medicine has to offer the common man. Now, I am not saying that you’re not correct, all I am saying is that I have never heard of Dr Steinbok being the foremost in pediatric-neurosurgeon globally. The African American and republican presidential candidate Dr Ben Carson held the position for many years.


  17. When I heard George Pilgrim on last Thursday’s VOB 12:30 pm news talking shiite, he immediately reminded me of “NationBLPnewspaper,” since they spew Identical rhetorical political diatribe.

    Perhaps NationBLPnewspaper is ACTUALLY George Pilgrim.


  18. @ David
    Another good and relevant point by Caswell.

    CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN WHY DETAILED REPORTS ARE NOT PROVIDED TO THE PUBLIC ON THE PERFORMANCE OF EACH SCHOOL?
    What is the damn secret…? …or is it MUCH worse than we even imagine….?

    The whole education /examination system is broken.
    The result is that we now have what we have.

    In a new global world, if there is ONE THING that you DO NOT WANT to localise, it is EXAMINATION and CERTIFICATION. We NEED that when we produce a successful student, that student is accepted UNIVERSALLY….and that when we produce idiots, it is clear to one and all that we are stuck with a jackass – who must be kept far away from serious national responsibility.

    Unless CXC is also examining and certifying students GLOBALLY, we are spinning top in mud …and wasting precious dollars in pursuing that approach.
    In any damn case, let us compare the kind of scholars we produced back in the Oxford and Cambridge days ….compared to the current CXC era….

    Jeff is obviously a thinker ..and it is unfortunate that he chose Law instead of something useful like Management or Engineering.
    It will be interesting to see how long he can last in a system dominated by idiots of the mentality of Alvin, Ac and Dompey …. all CXC scholars … LOL ha ha ha … ohhh shiirrrt!

    Bushie predicts …not as long as a snow cone at midday….. 🙂


  19. @Bush Tea

    Remember a past Chief Education Officer was challenged on national radio before she retired about an a analysis of the performance of Springer School and she never responded. Why the secrecy about the results is troubling. In the absence of continuous assessment of teachers it would form a good measurement of teacher performance.


  20. @ Artax
    LOL
    The schools all have guidance counsellors…
    But they are busy dealing with sexuality matters such as condoms, STDs, boyfriend/girlfriend matters, pregnancy, porn, student-teacher relationships, bullying, fighting, truancy and other critical issues …to get around to career guidance.

    Besides …what careers what!??

    Wuh the students ain’t blind. They know better that the stupid adults how broken and meaningless the whole shiite system really is…. Even the high flying scholarship winners all seem to fade into meaningless mediocrity after their tertiary level….

    Name six scholarship winners of recent vintage who are blazing trails of influence or potentiality anywhere in Barbados at present….

    Dedicating 5 years of one’s life to preparing for a set of largely predictable examinations takes discipline, commitment and a relatively sharp mind, but genius is a much more elusive characteristic.

    Instead of identifying genius, our current ‘eddy kashun’ system tends to condemn such persons to the fringes, blocks, gangs and prison, …while promoting morons who managed to retain a lot of meaningless data to be regurgitated at a series of exams….

    LOL
    Bushie would know … never failed one yet …. 🙂


  21. Caswell Franklyn

    You’re a man of relative influence in Barbados I assume, and I therefore gather that some of those unprincipled principals would have probably listen to what you have to say regarding your concern? So my question to you is this: rather than being concerned regarding the number of students taking the prescribed subjects, why did you take it upon yourself to confront the minister of education, or some of those unprincipled unprincipals and ask them or him: why out of a 100% of the students that passed … how comes only 25 students were allowed to take a particular subject as you put it?


  22. @ Artax
    George Pilgrim comes across as someone who should be running a community sports club for the elderly….
    The DLP really scraping the bottom of the barrel…


  23. Bush Tea

    And you come across as one of those armed-chair-advocates, who spins your daily bull from behind your computer- monitor. I wouldn’t even allow you to manage the dog for fair of the dog biting your ass up, for blabbing your mouth at it.


  24. @Dompey

    Domps, Dr Ben Carson is very top notch to be sure BUT remember that the Med journals you refer to are based in the USA, a Nation known for “believing” they are the greatest at everything like Mohammed Ali. The truth about the USA is rated 28th in global education with lil pissass Singapore Numero Uno! Rated number 25 in Health care globally—-ouch!

    Dr Steinbok has been President of the International Society for Pediatric Neurosurgery (ISPN).
    He has been on the executive of the Section of Pediatric Neurosurgery of the American
    Association of Neurological Surgeons/Congress of Neurological Surgery and the American Society
    for Pediatric Neurosurgeons. He has been invited nationally and internationally as a visiting
    professor and as a guest lecturer.

    He has organized many international courses about pediatric neurosurgery in Argentina,
    Singapore, India, Morocco, Colombia, Costa Rica and China and continues to participate
    regularly as a faculty member in educational courses run by the European Society for Pediatric
    Neurosurgery and the International Society for Pediatric Neurosurgery. He has also provided
    professional assistance in neurosurgery at hospitals in the Caribbean including Barbados.


  25. Fair enough Money. But I have one small favour to ask you: since America is rated


  26. @Bushie

    What is really interesting is that Singapore still uses Cambridge with a population base approximately the size of the English Cbean. The locals set exams in Malay language and Singapore Social Studies. These Singaporeans are FAR richer with GDP/ capita higher than the UK at $56k!!!


  27. Fair enough Money… But I have one small favour to ask of you sir: since America ( according to you) is rated 28th in global education, why is it that people from the four corners of the globe compete rather vigorously, for admission to: Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Brown and Cornell; all Ivy league universities which are rated rather remarkably well internationally?


  28. MoneyBrain

    Are you aware of whom constitutes the majority of the student body at Yale university?


  29. @Bush Tea

    Keep sharing your terrific insights they are not many with your background of service in Barbados.


  30. MoneyBrain

    Are you aware of whom constitutes the majority of the student body at Yale university these day Brain? If you harazd an eductional guess … that Asians do then you’re quite correct … so if our edutional system is so poorly rated, then why are these Asians studying in the United States? Things that make you say humhum…!

  31. are-we-there-yet Avatar
    are-we-there-yet

    Moneybrain

    It seems to me that the main emphasis of the discussion on a rational Examination system should not be on its production of positive outliers and highfliers, like the young lady who passed 20 CXC certs this year, but on producing the maximum numbers of students showing competence in the subjects offered (especially in the bread and butter areas) that should be geared to attesting that successful students in those subjects are ready to advance to the world of further study or of work. Those numbers should also be correlated with the needs of the country of that time and its stage of development, i.e. Is the examination system producing the numbers of students in the areas necessary for fuelling national development?

    Just to mention a few names from HC as examples of the above , Frank Hassell was by far a better student and brainiac than his brother Trevor at HC but 55 years later there is little comparison between the name recognition and national contributions of the two. Trevor Byer was something of a genius, but his contribution to Barbados and the World is not known except that he became a nuclear physicist. Oliver Headley was a genius with a photographic memory. He went on to be a champion in the area of Renewable Energy, surely an outstanding Bajan and Caribbean Scientist but relatively unknown on the world stage. Paul Steinbok was also a genius who went on to being an outstanding Neuroscientist in Canada. Tony? Fields was another outstanding HC student but I have no information on if his accomplishments in later life lived up to his early promise. There are others whose names I cannot recall who did well at the O&C or Cambridge GCE examinations at HC, made contributions to the development of their country but who I haven’t heard of for several years.

    Looking at the high fliers of my time at HC I would bet that fewer of them went on to be highly visible world beaters in their chosen professions as compared to several others from HC and other High Schools here who might only have got a few passes in various subjects but then went on to excel at universities and workplaces in various parts of the world and also contributed significantly to Barbados’ development and have greater global name recognition. Cardinale Warde, Chelston Brathwaite and the Bajan at 3M who became the Manager of the Asian branches of that Company are examples of the latter group.

    So yes, I agree fully with Caswell’s remarks above.


  32. @Dompey

    Where did I say that the top Ivy League Unis are not World Class? That is totally separate from emphatically stating the education in general in the USA is subpar. The US is a very rich country with plenty money for top notch research, hence the attraction. Do you really think the top European Unis are inferior eg Cambridge/ Oxford/ The Sorbonne/ Heidelberg et al???? Top Jap Unis?????

    My wife’s nephew, a good student, but not by any means exceptional by Singaporean standards did the engineering Degree at Duke in 3 yrs and completed a Masters in Managerial Economics at Stanford in one year. His cousin, considered a somewhat poor student,gained entry to UC Berkeley, albeit in a very obscure major.

    Many Americans that attend the Ivy league Unis are educated in top private schools or have parents who can donate a “new wing”. The average family receiving a Govt education are disadvantaged. My nephew in Nth Carolina was a genius who was sent to The State school for the exceptional students, he eventually took an MBA and Jurist Doctor Combined but had to cut out the JD due to very poor health. There are countless students who never perform to their potential due to poor education facilities, bad family life and very bad attitude in the USA to education versus Sports. My own US family members are far more cognizant of my cousin who played with Elway at the Broncos than my genius nephew!


  33. MoneyBrain

    I hear what you’re saying Money and can’t agree with you more; the emphasis as you have already stated above seems to be on athletes rather than academics, here in the States. But the one thing I love about America is the easy access to an education, even if one leaves university unable to recall what he or she has been taught. Nevetherless, I do not think that it is fair for example: to compare the educational system in America to let say China or india because in China and India there is an unilateral approach to education. Where as in America, the educational system is operated by the school district of a given town, and the financial resources of a given town determine the quality of education one receives, on the secondary or high school level. So you should never speak of education in America from a unilateral perspective because it is fragmented and based on the resources of a given school district.


  34. When will we get to hear outrage about the defunct Barbados Association of Journalists?


  35. @are we—

    I agree with your main points in full.

    What annoys me is when we spend $$$$$$$$$$ at UWI to produce a surplus of PoliSci grads and then have to “import” Chartered Accts from India/ the Phillipines. I believe Canada and Bim need to “price” and make available classes to suit our needs. Many Uni students in Canada, at least 25%, are not qualified academically or by capability. It is fashionable to go to Uni when many should be at College studying something far more practical including the Trades. Canada can afford to waste $$$$ but not the small Cbean islands.

    Many geniuses discover woman, alcohol, drugs etc or just become misdirected. As you allude some are late developers, some burnout. I know several fellas that just decide to be “normal” or are not particularly ambitious or want a balanced life including sports/ socialising. (my own son is a classical example who finds exams that beat 80% of examinees (post grad level Professional), easy, not breaking a sweat, while barely studying. U hope he will fail so he learns a lesson but he doesn’t).

    In Bim we need Education et al Reform. We must have the best and the cleverest in various fields combine to produce a superior system.


  36. @Dompey

    The US should be ABSOLUTELY ASHAMED of its general educational status regardless of cause, it can be reformed/ restructured. Poor Education System but Full Prisons?????? The Pols just love to talk pure crap instead of taking action and speaking truth. Very poor “leadership” based on Re-election Votes!


  37. Politicians never cease to amaze.

    On Tuesday, October 22, 2013, Minister of Tourism & International Transport, Richard Sealy, announced in parliament that a number of concessions would be granted to two ALL-INCLUSIVE HOTELS to be owned and operated by Sandals Resorts Inc.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe such decisions are discussed and approved by members of cabinet. Dennis Kellman, who is Minister of Housing and Lands, is a member of cabinet, so in theory, he probably agreed with the concessions being granted. Also, Kellman would have supported government during the parliamentary debate relative to granting Sandals concessions.

    However, according to a news article in the Friday, August 14, 2015 edition of the “Weekend Nation” under the headline “Divide over all-inclusive hotels,” Dennis Kellman is reported as having said that “all-inclusive properties have significantly contributed to the demise of Speightstown.”

    The article went on to state: “LIKENING ALL-INCLUSIVE HOTELS TO PRISONS, KELLMAN SAID THAT THIS WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM FACING BARBADOS’ TOURISM INDUSTRY.”

    “He said: ‘Yes, we need more tourists but it does not make sense we are getting the numbers we are getting and they are not leaving the amount of money we want them to leave in Barbados. And I believe the best way to do this is not to depend on the hotelier to do it but add the attractions to pull the tourists away from the hotels’…”

    Yuh see why I don’t like politicians? On one hand Kelly supported the granting of concessions to two all inclusive properties, and on the other hand, he is basically saying Barbados does not need all-inclusive properties.


  38. @Artax

    The issue here is not Kellman’s inconsistent position, it is the media failing to hold him to account and in the process keep the public informed.


  39. @ Artax
    LOL
    Kellman basically says what seems appropriate for the moment that he is speaking…
    as with Dompey and the AC clowns, it really means nothing in the scheme of things. Donkeys bray…

    In respect of exams, you said ….

    ” It seems to me that the main emphasis of the discussion on a rational Examination system should not be on its production of positive outliers and highfliers, like the young lady who passed 20 CXC certs this year, but on producing the maximum numbers of students showing competence in the subjects offered….”
    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    This false premise is generally shared by most of our policymakers who, as a result has spent MILLIONS of dollars seeking to improve our eddyKashun.

    A RATIONAL examination system has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with ‘producing the maximum numbers of competent students…”
    A good examination system simply BENCHMARKS how well your methodologies and policies are working.
    It is therefore CRITICAL that it is as unbiased, accurate, consistent and transparent as is humanly possible.

    When results are BAD, it tells you that your EDDYKASHUN system is flawed….. NOT THAT EXAMS NEED TO BE EASIER SO THAT THE ‘CORRECT” percentages of ‘passes’ are achieved…
    When results are GOOD, it says that you are doing some shiite RIGHT…. and you should do more of such shiite.

    Now if your EXAM system is some local shiite that is administered by brass bowl failures from the same Eddykashun system ….then you don’t know if you are going or coming….

    …so you end up with THOUSANDS of ‘certified brass bowl idiots’ who are forced to sit around and wait for un-educated foreigners to come here and employ them; to lend them money to buy the bling associated with their qualifications; to run their banks, utilities, supermarkets, factories, hotels etc….
    While a fellow like Nassar is frustrated from pillar to post…and has never had the opportunity to explore his OBVIOUSLY limitless potential through the same shiite system.

    WHY…?

    Because we have allowed a false certification system to create second rate jackasses with lots of paperwork and ZERO common sense, little intellect, NO CREATIVITY, NO self-confidence, and NO sense of purpose.

    …meanwhile, the few who COULD make all the difference in the world to Barbados are dissed, ridiculed, frustrated and side-lined into irrelevance….. or just retire quietly into their private spaces and look on in incredulous amazement as jackasses run the show – spending hundreds of millions on mistake after mistake ..while holding up their ‘doctorates’ and Legal Certificates….

  40. are-we-there-yet Avatar
    are-we-there-yet

    Bushtea, re. your 3:09 post

    It was not Artax that penned the quote you excoriated but me, AWTY.

    That quote was ” It seems to me that the main emphasis of the (BU)discussion on a rational Examination system should not be on its production of positive outliers and highfliers, like the young lady who passed 20 CXC certs this year, but on producing the maximum numbers of students showing competence in the subjects offered….”

    I was talking about the discussion that Moneybrain had started that related mainly to the production of such highfliers and appeared to de-emphasize what I felt was the more important point that Caswell raised, the apparent exclusion of significant numbers of students from taking the exam and therefore from certification.

    In doing so I inadvertently mixed up the Examination system with the Educational system.

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    Jeff Cumberbatch

    The high level of the discussion here so far illustrates perfectly the point I was trying to make anent the substantial contribution of this blog to democratic discourse. It is not about whether one poster agrees or disagrees with the other; rather, let a thousand views contend.

    Moneybrain, I once thought we might have been contemporaries, but some of those names you mentioned are at least ten years older!


  42. @Are-we-there-yet

    Don’t be become trapped in the traditional way of thinking, what is wrong with investigating what produced the outliers we tend to ignore because they stretch from the mean?

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    are-we-there-yet

    David,
    re. your 3:54 pm post

    Nothing is wrong with investigating what produced the outliers of both types identified by the examination system and produced by the education system. The two go together.

    I think it is more important at this stage that persons excluded from the exams and the ones who do very badly in them should be focused on as the other outliers, the high fliers, unless they have no way to go or no opportunities to go where they want to go, will find a way to progress. It is the ones who get low grades that need to be helped. Some of them are capable of doing much better under different circumstances.

    Investigating the outliers and what made them outliers is imho a very valuable excercise and the reasons for such performances must be legion, ranging from genetics to environment.


  44. @AWTY

    Agree with you last comment the two investigations must occur.


  45. MoneyBrain

    I have reiterated before and I shall iterate once again: the fragmentation of the American educational system contributes to its inadequacy because of the lack of universal and unilateral oversight, as well as the much needed regimentation. Each and every school district in America is charged with the responsibility of providing the best education possible for its students and must do so based on its pool of financial resources. The federal government has very little oversight over the system of education in America, but in the small area that it federally funds. So let me give you a practical example of what I am trying to illustrate here Money: Kids from the upper-class community of West Hartford for example: enjoy a high standard of education than kids from anywhere in the Caribbean because of the money that is pour into this community from the wealthy people who lives there. While kids from the lower-class community of Hartford are subjected to an educational system which performs at a standard far below any in the Caribbean because of the high unemployment rate in that community, and the little financial resources that is given to managed the educational system there. So the kids in these two neighbouring communities emerges with two different standards of education because of the amount of money allotted to financed and operated the both of these educational systems. A good education in America at the end of the day unfortunately, boiled down to economic; sad to say but this is the reality we face.


  46. MoneyBrain

    You cannot look at the educational system in America as you do in Barbados, where there is a minister of education who oversights the entire system of education there. The state and federal government exercise very little oversight over education in America, but the bulk of the responsibility lies with the school district, and the resources given to manage that particular school system.


  47. Jeff,
    We were contemporaries, although we were never in the same class room. I could have mentioned Richardson or McLean (even the legal Eagle JC) or a whole bunch more but Steinbok stood out and is easier for everyone to confirm his genius. Some names mentioned by Are We—, were known to myself but I did not have enough info.

    Do U remember a legal genius, I believe he was a Clarke, who conducted his cases in Latin and then would translate for the poor Judge concerned? There was also a chap of yore who went to Cambridge and after a year they gave him the degree as he was teaching the Profs!!!
    We wont mention Cammie Tudor who became the first black gent to lead the Oxford Union. Bim certainly produced some top flight fellas. Some Lodge School products were top notch too BUT in recent years that school has gone way down, probably after Smitty mash it up.

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    are-we-there-yet

    Jeff Cumberbatch;

    I think that most of the HC names mentioned in this blog were in my post while the main one actually identified by name by Moneybrain was also in my post. Those names were of my contemporaries who would be over a decade older than you. So you may yet be a contemporary of Moneybrain.


  49. MoneyBrain

    Do you know or have met a fella who goes by the name “Roy Standard” during your time spent at Harrison College?

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