A Strand of the Rumsfeldian Military-Political Philosophy
Submitted by Pachamama
The Bush, number two, Administration produced some of the most ‘interesting’ characters of any administration in the history of the United States of America. Amongst them was the great Donald Rumsfeld. We don’t care that he has some claim to being a prodigy. He is interesting to us for having a rare ability to mouth things few, in public life, would every say.
It was the mercurial genius of Rumsfeld which gave us ‘known knowns’, ‘known unknows’ and ‘unknown unknowns’. It must take supreme confidence for a political figure to posit, amid extreme laughter from an audience of journalist, at a time of illegal wars, this theory of the knowns.
Rumsfeld saw the ‘known knowns’ as things which we know with certainty. The ‘known unknowns’ as things we know we do not know. And the ‘unknown unknowns’ as information we do not know we don’t known. What manner of man could have the fortitude to conduct this thought experiment in public? Maybe it takes a little bit more than courage!
We had assigned this ‘theory’ of the knowns to the scrapbook of history when low and behold this very supposition about the ‘unknowables’ reemerged in a news conference by current Director of the CIA, John Brennan. For the chief spook to reach back to a time when historic crimes of torture, war crimes, crimes against humanity on a global scale, were committed by the administration he served, to find language from the Rumsfeldian guide book, there has to be a coordinated defense. An attempt to avoid an international war crimes tribunal, that will come, sooner or later. To mislead history.
Not only Rummy! We have Dick Cheney, trotted out on all the networks telling old lies to counter settled known knowns about their illegal wars of aggression. Dickey is trying to make known knowns into unknown unknowns but the philosophy on which he rests will work against him for there are few known unknowns about their war crimes.
We known that African leaders and other ‘enemies’ of empire are marched before the International Criminal Court (ICC) in the Hague. We know that this United Nations court acts as the enforcement arm for the empire. We known that Rummy, Dickie, Georgie, Condi, Brennan, Gonzales, Bibby, Tony Blair et al are all more and more afraid to travel outside the USA.
We know that the same Geneva Conventions, which 70 years after World War Two sees the Zionist state still hunting down nonagenarians, is as valid today as it was when first brought against the Nazis. We know that George Monbiot and an army of civil society forces around the world hold the power to have these war criminals arrested and brought before a competent court.
We know that every citizen of the world holds the power of prosecutor under the Geneva Conventions and can, in so acting, petition any court to have American war criminals arrested should they be outside the USA and the US fails to act. We know that most readers will say that this will not happen. But we also know that the geo-political environments have changed considerably and American can ill-afford to pay the cost in terms of national prestige to save Rummy and his cabal of criminals.
Given the recent US Senate passage of exerts of the executive summary of the torture report it maybe a known unknown that the country is signaling it wants to turn a page. Never mind industrial torture by the Republicans, with the collusion of Democrats, has been replaced by open mass murder of civilians by the Obama Administration drone warfare, there seems to be a feeling emanating from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue that the country needs to ‘restore its image in the world. As though the known knowns of torture being as American as apple pie, does not exist. As though the known known that slavery was torture was a known unknown. As though the known known that genocide against the indigenous peoples of North America and Palestine was indeed torture, was a known unknown.
Now it is a known known that the war criminal Tony Blair travels to Barbados. On occasions he has been seen hobnobbing with Owen Arthur and Hilary Beckles. It is also a known known that nobody in Barbados will exercise the relevant articles in the Geneva Conventions should he be spotted. What is an unknown unknown is whether international sanctions will we levied on Barbados for sheltering a known war criminal?
The torture of prisoners of war at Abu Graib, Guantanamo, Bahgram and scores of other known black sites around the world is no longer in the province of the unknown unknowns. Despite centuries of public relations propaganda the world is starting to see that the projection of American criminal activity abroad is no less than that inflicted at home.
Muted calls for international investigations to confirm known knowns, make known unknown knowable and convert unknown unknowns into known knowns will soon grow to a point where even a deaf empire would have to respond. Justice demands this Rumsfeldian accounting!
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It is Christmas and some will want us to focus only on merriment but the wanton taking of life by Muslim militants must be condemned.
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This is all moot. There is absolutely no likelihood that the former Pres or other senior gov’t officials will be charged for war crimes as a result of these torture accusations.
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It appears that US torture was not to find “ticking time bombs” but rather to coerce captives into making confessions of their involvement in terrorism that would support the established White House “war on terror” narrative, regardless of the suspects’ guilt or innocence.
U.S. Tortured and Killed Innocent People for the Specific Purpose of Producing False Propaganda
by Wasington’s Blog
Former senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the interrogation issue said that Cheney and former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld demanded that the interrogators find evidence of al Qaida-Iraq collaboration…
For most of 2002 and into 2003, Cheney and Rumsfeld, especially, were also demanding proof of the links between al Qaida and Iraq that (former Iraqi exile leader Ahmed) Chalabi and others had told them were there.”
It was during this period that CIA interrogators waterboarded two alleged top al Qaida detainees repeatedly — Abu Zubaydah at least 83 times in August 2002 and Khalid Sheik Muhammed 183 times in March 2003 — according to a newly released Justice Department document…
When people kept coming up empty, they were told by Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people to push harder,” he continued.”Cheney’s and Rumsfeld’s people were told repeatedly, by CIA . . . and by others, that there wasn’t any reliable intelligence that pointed to operational ties between bin Laden and Saddam . . .
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Gordon Trowbridge writes for the Detroit News: “Senior Bush administration officials pushed for the use of abusive interrogations of terrorism detainees in part to seek evidence to justify the invasion of Iraq, according to newly declassified information discovered in a congressional probe.
Indeed, one of the two senior instructors from the Air Force team which taught U.S. servicemen how to resist torture by foreign governments when used to extract false confessions has blown the whistle on the true purpose behind the U.S. torture program.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/12/gov-tortured-killed-innocent-people-specific-purpose-producing-false-propaganda.html
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Opinion Research Business, a London-based polling agency, estimated Iraq war deaths at 1.2 million people through 2007.
National Geographic cites 500,000 and Amy Hagopian of the University of Washington in Seattle, an international research said, “We think it is roughly around half a million people dead. And that is likely a low estimate,” says Hagopian. “People need to know the cost in human lives of the decision to go to war.”
At least 100,000 were non-combatants and the lasting effects of depleted uranium shells has been devastating.
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We have been recently described as operating on the fringes of reality. To us that is a compliment for there is no benefit for us is conforming to the mean.
We now see, this morning, that a European final court has ruled that HAMAS be removed from a terrorist list. A list on which it was unjustly put.
Hamas has never been a ‘terrorist organization’. The Zionist themselves help to form Hamas a la ISIS. And they did this to counter the influence of the PLO. Does anyone sees ISIS attacking Zionist or American interests.
Hamas has always been a liberation organization. As a liberation organization whose lands are occupied it has every right to free it territory, by any means necessary. All of its lands! And in this they have our total support.
So too does Hezbollah. And we will not stop supporting them publicly and privately, regardless of what others may say. Even when this means breaking unjust laws! Our support will only cease when ALL of Palestine is liberated from Zionism.
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For Attention of Green Monkey’s and Pacha’s peer review
Not sure if you spotted the post on eric garner with following link about conspiracy hypothesis
Click to access murdering-liberty-killing-hope.pdf
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How THAT is a massive document Kiki…….
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@ pachamama
Yesterday as I was listening to the PeShawar incident and the 140 dead, mostly “children” I reflected on two things.
Why would the so called world opinion be galvanized to remark in so many droves of state communiques over 132 dead youths when, with staggering numbers of my dead black children all over the Dark Continent that of late a few were issuing tickets for ole men like me to go back to, I don’t see similar collective indignation for our dead.
When those seven Taliban were given this “soft target” it was simply a revenge assignment for a leading Taliban insurgent who lost some of his loved children and, in order to exact the eye for an eye penance, sent these soldiers, the Taliban equivalent of Seal Team 6, into the heart of the fray, to die.
I reflect one these both for some time and, being now a sojourner in the departure lounge, came to the realization that, unless each of us truly wants to get along with our fellow man/woman, unless we start to live by the precepts that “I am my brothers keeper”, we WILL CONTINUE TO DO THESE THINGS TO EACH OTHER until GOD comes or we each go home.
Cheney and Rumsfeld are war criminals insofar as these are crimes perpetrated against humanity of which you and I are denizens.
So too are Boko Haran and you and I as we wage war with a different type of weapon against needful people, animals and organisms that we coexists with
A part of me weeps for these youth but I weep every day For the 12 African children who die every minute from hunger…
Of all the beast that inhabit this fragile earth it is only man that kills for sport, jealousy, greed, senseless anger, psychoses, “cause we felt like it”…..
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Yes it is bigger than a Bread Box Mr. Bushman
Look at it as your purpose for blogging
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David
This is one time we have to also congratulate Caribbean political elites for leading the way to this Cuban-American rapportment.
More to follow. Look out for the same with Iran. Coming soon.
Also, Palestine will be a state before 2 years are done. These are the seismic shifts we were talking about.
In some total the American empire is at an end. We have to make sure the dog is really dead. Internally, externally.
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rapproachement
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@ pieceuhderockyeahright December 17, 2014 at 9:31 AM
What a masterful post…….!
shiite man….. Bushie has temporarily turned off the whacker – out of awe and respect…..
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Well said, Mr. Pieces. Nicely crafted comments.
@Pacha: “In some total the American empire is at an end. We have to make sure the dog is really dead. Internally, externally.”——–
You make some grand sweeping statements, sir.
When does anyone -particularly the powerful US empire- relinquish power, willingly or otherwise. That’s not going to happen.
The events of Sept, 2011 didn’t cull the wings of the US and nothing less than a total annihilation will either.
Moreso, however, how does the dead dog to which you refer benefit the world in general? Are those who would supposedly take it place going to be better?
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Here is New York Times report “U.S. and Cuba, in Breakthough, Will Resume Diplomatic Relations”
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ooops “… The events of Sept, 2001”
That should have read on post above @ December 17, 2014 at 12:56 PM
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Timing is everything. This time last week the United Snakes of America was depicted as a nation who approved of torture as a means to an end. Now it is seeking rapprochement with Cuba!
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Simple-mindedness is always the order of the the day. Rapprochement is not mutually exclusive to torture. By any means necessary. Idiots have no idea as to how empire really work!
The American have only taken this action because they have 54 years of failure. This is a concession. Other concessions will soon be with Iran and Palestine. In essence the empire tried to maintain power by even using torture. Now that that has failed it has been forced to do what 188 countries have been telling it for 30 years.
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Black Santa
Black Jesus
Black People
Pacha remember to do your Xmas Assignment to review the link and revert
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@ Pachamama,
Obama does not have long left. Since he became President he has been living in a strait-jacket. He has released himself and is now clearing the deck. He has nothing to lose and I congratulate him. He has never believed in Americanism as expressed by the lunatic right-wing Republican movement. A movement that seems hell bent on destroying all that it comes in contact with.
I do not believe that this is a concession. Obama looks like a man prepared to step down on his own terms. With regard to Iran and Palestine…………..
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@ Exclaimer
You are misreading events
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🙂 Little Town Of Bethlehem,
🙂 come to us, abide with us,
🙂 ur Lord Emmanuel.
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Exclaimer you have a point there.Obama is stepping up to the plate to make the Republicans look more outdated and outwitted.Iran,Palestine,Cuba,Venezuela are all on the cards for rapprochement.Fox and the lunatic right wing fringe will have some raving and ranting spells.Putin lost the Cuba opportunity to sit on the US doorstep as the US and NATO are doing on his doorstep in Ukraine.I think Putin is toast.
Our Tourism experts had better start looking at the future of that industry in Barbados and in our region on the whole. Cuba is big game for US tourists.Lots of competition in the offing:cheaper air travel,lovely hotels,lovely beaches,lots of casinos,great cultural
activities,lovely senoritas,good music,entertainment,lovely old Spanish architecture,
historic buildings,cheap cigars,44000 sq miles of space.Lots of work for Barbados to
maintain our market share.Recall too,that the UK and Canada never stopped trading with Cuba.
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@ Gabriel,
If our tourist industry loses out to Cuba then that would be excellent news. We could then focus in other areas; we could become more innovative and efficient.
I was following MSNBC over the internet. Damn, that Obama came across as genuine presidential material. It was like watching one of those sepia shoots of Prime Ministers and Presidents from the black and white era.
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A pity he had to wait until he is lame duck to force through his initiatives. He better watch his back!
On Wednesday, 17 December 2014, Barbados Underground wrote:
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@ David December 17, 2014 at 8:03 PM…A pity he had to wait until he is lame duck to force through his initiatives. He better watch his back! ….”
That’s an interesting perspective but I believe you are misjudging the political dynamics.
For all practical purposes this is the ideal timing for this action. If we put aside the issue related to the aide worker who they needed to be freed before any normalization the politics of this decision was best left to this period.
It’s a case of choosing your battles carefully. With Obamacare, the border issues, finding Bin Laden, closing out the war and the myriad other matters, Pres Obama would have been insane to attempt this action at any point during his first term or even before the recent elections as it would have given him/his party no political boost.
It’s a practical and right action but the push back in the Cuban community in Florida will be very noisy.
What it really means for the average Cuban is unknown. Ideally, more openness and better democracy there.
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What is difference between shooting in pakistan schools and emo goth punks with guns in US high skool
Guantánamo, G-bay or GTMO was a torturers paradise where psychologists breached human rights for $8 million subject matter expert fees in biggest scam by yanks since niggas with attitude gangsta gangsta
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Excuse Typo $80 million for a couple of cunts
“Two contractors had no background in counterterrorism, yet were paid more than $80m for their services.”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30405918
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Look what the Kenyan born Muslim fist bumping terrorist (he says with tongue planted firmly in cheek) just did! Who said that “lame ducks” are impotent? The Republicans are probably having a conniption at this latest move, never mind that their most hard core supporters (US Chamber of Commerce) will be the primary beneficiaries of any improvement in trade between the two countries. Nixon went to China and established diplomatic relations; the US lost 50,000 men in Vietnam and established diplomatic relations in the years following; why should a rump of Cuban exiles in Miami dictate how the rest of the USA should interact with the USA?
All of the US major allies in Europe have diplomatic relations with Cuba and the USA’s closest neighbours Canada and Mexico have diplomatic and trade relations with Cuba in fact Canada has never broken off relations with Cuba, as a matter of interest the Cubana airline blown up off the coast of Barbados was leased from a Canadian company.
Obamas move will improve relations between the USA and their Latin American neighbours although Chavez’s heir Maduro may have a different slant. Chavez once addressed the UN the day after GW Bush did and on taking the lectern said “The devil came here yesterday, and it smells of sulfur still today”. As Obama said we have been doing the same thing over and over for over 5 decades and expect different results. This deal is really about what happens in Cuba after the Castro brothers depart the scene, the original handpicked heirs to succeed Castro were replaced and the mantle was turned over to “younger” brother Raoul, but the younger generation of Cubans are of the same mindset of their young compatriots in Little Havana, they both yearn for a better way of doing things and it looks like their wish will be granted.
About the prisoner release is Israel about to ask for Jonathan Pollard?
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@ Pachamama
I want to commend you on a well written piece; you left no stone unturned, thank you.
@ Dee Word
“…as a result of these torture accusations.”
Accusations??? Water-boarding just one of the methods used by the CIA is torture and that’s a known, known.
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When you have a monopoly of one superpower at the top of the pyramid the world becomes a highly dangerous pace. The decline of Russia during the eighties and nineties gave license to the USA to roam freely around the world unsupervised. Clearly the world requires a strong Russia, China, Iran and others to keep America in check.
Off message: an African professional footballer playing his football in Algeria was alleged to have been killed by a projectile thrown from the stadia whilst participating in a game of football. A pathologist confirmed that his death was probably due to a beating that he may have received in his dressing room. If so this must be a first.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30529900
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It is amazing how new law is being established by Dick Cheny et al. Even Obama is saying things like we should not look back, we should look forward.
Well, next time a murder is committed the suspect/accused could also tell the authorities that ‘we should look forward, not backward.
Why would a court want to litigate the history of a crime that occurred last week? This is the law for a few, of course.
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What is wrong with North Korea asking for evidence to show it hacked Sony? If the US is sure about the hack produce the evidence! The episode is reminiscent of the invasion of Iraq because of ‘evidence’ of mass destruction. It is amazing how the Western media believes what the US is saying but rubbishes North Korea’s position.
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David
We are yet to understand how otherwise sane people could demand a right to make a comedic movie about killing a world leader. This must be a larger PLOT. We feel they would like to kill Putin et al. If anybody even hints about wanting to kill Obama the Secret Service would be on their door step in a flash.
And they have these cases all the time. People serve tens of years in jail and worse. But for the leader of North Korea things are different. We really don’t have any brief for this fellow, but a leader is a leader.
No world leader, regardless of how obnoxious he/she maybe, should be the butt of assassination talk or jokes. No matter how much we may hate him, how brutal he maybe. This is a bell once rung, cannot be unrung!
World War One started with the assassination Arch Duke Ferdinand. And tens of millions of people died. And here we have Sony, these racist bullers with such effluent in their brains and running out of ‘creativity’ turning to murder of a world leader, as a substitute, for entertainment. They want to make the assassination of leaders more and more acceptable to the sheeple.
And a president of the USA, whose office has killed hundreds of world leaders, defending a brainless George Clooney carrying out a campaign for a right to assassinate Kim Jong Un with laughter. These people and their culture must be removed from world leadership, period. For they can only degenerate.
Stinking fuckers like Clooney thinks they have unending rights to do anything they like. But UN’s right to life is of little measure. Even a despot has a right to live! And Obama maybe termed such by some.
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Question 1? Why should North Korea deem itself so sacrosanct that it is immune from any caricature including that of assassination? Recall mr. Bean Johnny English Reborn and assassination plot on Queen Elizabeth?
Question 2? Why would President Obama weigh in on what is “just a Sony underwritten movie?
Question 3? Is there some unwritten rule which permits the United States, Canada, The United Kingdom Germany etc to sponsor real life state terrorism and contra like exercises but to get annoyed and indignant when their subliminal message through film is thwarted?
Question 4? What portends for Kim Jong-Un and NK given the veiled retaliation that the President of the Mighty United States has forecast against North Korea?
Question 5? What has so emboldened Amurica to feel that it can telegraph its intention to retaliate against NK via its cyberspace platform as it exacts its “we are the world or vengeance is ours” policy? Is it the back door monitoring code that Apple and Microsoft have embedded in our OSes?
There are 8 billion of us on this planet.
We either MAKE IT OUR BUSINESS TO LIVE TOGETHER, IRRESPECTIVE OF OUR RACE, COLOUR, RELIGION SOCIAL CLASS, or this will end in one colossal bang
As puerile and cliche this might seem to be either we start to incorporate and live by the maxim that “I am my brother’s keeper” or we will all die, As is becoming increasingly apparent by EBOLA and (the proliferation of) WEAPONS GRADE PLUTONIUM and other things that abound in this shrinking global village
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@PIECE
Good questions. Can’t answer all. But do you really think there is any difference between the US government, all the government including the military, and big corporate interests?
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@PUDRYR
Those have to be rhetorical questions!
It must be very hard to think a country like the USA touted as a bastion of democracy and land of the free would lie about having evidence but the history of the WMD Iraq says otherwise. The USA and Obama if they have the evidence can be defended because a cyber attack (if proved) is like an act of terrorism.
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There have been films about assassinations of leaders before, one of the most acclaimed films of all time was “The day of the Jackal” which was about an attempt to kill DeGaulle. The “dear leader” has a thin skin and probably gave a lot of publicity to a film which would probably have been in reruns by New Years.
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The USA is a country governed by psychotics who share the same traits of the classic, immature school boy bully. The bully boy was always in search of a new victim to harass and bully, until he became bored; where he would then seek a new victim to terrorise.
So within one week the USA extends one arm of rapprochement towards the eternal enemy: Cuba; and with the other arm menaces with undisclosed threats another one of her enemies: North Korea. Yet, one week prior to this, the world was in uproar over the torture methods employed by America and her allies.
It would appear that the news cycle has moved on from torture and confirms to me that America and her propaganda arm are orchestrating the media and news coverage at her will.
How prophetic my words @ December 18, 2014 at 7:45 PM. We live in a crazy world.
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The carnage continues on the streets of New York.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941
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@Hants
Some are blaming Mayor de Blasio?
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@ Hants December 20, 2014 at 9:06 PM …The carnage continues on the streets of New York.”——
Interesting choice of words, good sir.
The deaths of Mike Brown, Tamir Rice, Eric Gardner, John Crawford (shot in Walmart carrying a toy rifle from off the store shelf) et al, are painful, tragic, heart-rending actions of aggressive police activity. Not carnage, sir.
The death of these officers is insanity by a gang-banger who would have killed me or you just as easily. Not carnage,
Let us not relegate these issues to the street level description that the criminal thugs hope to perpetuate.
This is an assassination.
If the police ‘overreact’ to the alleged threats to their lives from these gang bangers then your choice of word will indeed become the language of the day.
I pray it does not.
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@David: The Mayor will get blamed regardless because unfortunately his frank and honest remarks re his son have polarized the overall debate.
The man is a politician and government operative of many years so I am hesitant to second guess his comments re his son and the instructions he gave him re police interaction, but simply stated those public remarks were poorly crafted. He could have made his point just as well without antagonizing the police rank and file.
Today in NY matters are very. very difficult. This has changed the dynamic now so drastically.
The proverbial powder keg.
True leadership now required to overcome this period.
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@DeeWord
Poorly crafted or not his words painted a reality for many Blacks and minorities. And yes until the scab heels there will be some pain to endure. Note also the leadership of the Police need to show leadership, it does not have to be sucked in by the political rhetoric, if that is what it is.
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@ Dee Word,
The “carnage” I refer to includes the killings of unarmed black males by police.
The assassination of police officers is also “carnage”.
The culture of “guns” right to bear arms bs contributes to the “carnage”
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Absolutely correct David, my comments re ‘true leadership’ was not restricted to the Mayor. As you said, the Police Unions bosses are included. So too the good Rev Al, the Commissioner, Governor et al. Tomorrow (today) the clergy will do their part.
I expect the Pres also to interrupt his vacation at some point with ‘calming’ remarks.
Remember that some few weeks back one of the Union leaders had warned his officers to be on guard against such an alleged threat and it was dismissed in other quarters as much ado about nothing.
Well now 2 officers of the law are dead: assassinated.
Those dudes have the guns; being jumpy and with itchy trigger fingers because they fear further attempts is not a good thing for them or us .
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@Hants..re carnage—
Let’s agree to disagree.
Carnage conjures up images that I prefer not to associate with the police/afro community deaths. It suggests a society overtaken by death and mayhem. I don’t agree,
We can rail about the gun culture but an honest appraisal of that will show that criminals will get guns regardless of restrictions. NY is a state where firearms are prohibited (w/o license) yet the perp shot the officer.
The US second amendment in itself is not the reason for the violence in the society.
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Sorted. Hit was a revenge killing for Eric Garner & Mike Brown.
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@Dee Word, on BU I write what comes to mind and you are free to conjure up whatever you like.
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I read where the former Gov of NY (George Pataki – Republican) blamed the Mayor of NYC and Eric Holder for the attack on the policemen. Perhaps he forgot to include Obama’s name in the act of a sick man but this individual reportedly shot his girlfriend prior to the attacks so who does he blame for that?
Who does he and others of his ilk blame for the shooting of these two Las Vegas policemen by the two supporters of Cliven Bundy?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/12/justice/las-vegas-shooting/
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This is what I listen to while blogging…..Then I play the lead guitar rifts.
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Since we on the subject of shooting and it is after mid night…..
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Rumsfeld = Aspartame = Monsanto
Cheney = Haliburton = Iraq War
Bob Marley shot the sherrif, and Derrick Morgan shot the deputy. So… Who shoot the marshall?!
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Nut jobs!
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@David
This man has a history of mental illness.
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@MistaBlack
So it has been reported.
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The policemen who turned their backs on the Mayor may come to regret it. LEADERSHIP!
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How purposefully naive that we disconnect the killing of these two cops from the random brutality against Brown and Black males by law enforcement without legal consequence. The constancy of such injustice can be debilitating, depressing and can lead to extreme unpredictable responses.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/arts/sony-to-release-the-interview-says-independent-movie-chain-1.2882524
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To think this movie’s claim to achieving popularity is that the producer threatens to kill. Dictator.
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Kim Jung UN MUST HAVE SHARES IN SONY STOCK
De grandson pay $5.99 and let all uh de family dat cum to de house yesterday watch de Interview movie.
This movie that caused all of the stir and the hacking of Sony is singularly the most stupid movie that I have ever seen in my life.
NO plot, no comedy nothing.
This hack is a plot within a plot.
The setup is quite simple.
It goes like this.
This picture is singularly unspectacular. Sony however, in an effort to get viewership, hatch up a plot where it is purportedly hacked and an unknown government purportedly threatens its staff because of the content of the picture.
THey even get the President of the United States and the USA government to issue threats to the North Korean government and shut down the peoples internet.
Then they seem to capitulate against not showing the movie and make it digitally available to ole mens like me to use we credit card on the internal to make the movie the most watched video of the day/week.
If Kim Jung Un and his reclusive Lizard group of hackers could be sooooo incredibly stupid to make all of this noise over this poorly scripted movie, he deserves to be assassinated.
The movie is not like “A Most Wanted Man” or anything remotely close to merit any type of concern by any serious connoisseur of film its interpretation and its impact
Pure jobby and hype, enough to garner the interest of the gullible public and rake in several million dollars during a 24 hour period.
It is not worth the time of day, EVEN IF YOU GET A PIRATED VERSION!!
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And, to show how ridiculous this banning of pictures is getting we now have ” Egypt bans Exodus Hollywood film”
The BBC article says “Egypt has banned a Hollywood film based on the Biblical book of Exodus because of what censors described as “historical inaccuracies”.
The head of the censorship board said these included the film’s depiction of Jews as having built the Pyramids, and that an earthquake, not a miracle by Moses, caused the Red Sea to part.”
Now, here we are several thousands of years late, using artistic interpretation to comment/represent Genesis through Revelation” where hypothetically, every possible rendition of said Holy Bible is potentially and inaccuracy which ANY CENSORSHIP BOARD could ban.
I consider pictures like Noah and Exodus and Charlton Heston in Moses and the 10 Commandments to be intellectual teasers where those who are intellectually short watch the “inaccuracies” and remain there while others who seek delve deeper into the truth that even the King James’ Version CANNOT give
But then again the ole man dont unnerstan what “A little learning is a dangerous thing ; Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring : There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,. And drinking largely sobers us again” means….
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@pieceuhderockyeahright December 26, 2014 at 2:01 PM…Kim Jung UN MUST HAVE SHARES IN SONY STOCK————
Excellent conclusion sir.
The North Koreans are a serious nuclear threat but the absolute stupidity of how they created major buzz and awareness around this movie is a lesson itself.
This is really a perfect White Paper on PR Practices. I suspect any student involved in marketing or PR business will have this as a perfect example of what to do or indeed not what to do as part of their education.
Further, I wonder how many of the truly insidious operators out there will adopt your very probable steps to achieve this type of public awareness to elevate their product in the public domain.
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Piece
You are disregarding the Yank propaganda angle and hypocrisy of spying hacking illegalities and warmongering. 2015 will be year that Yanks Brits Israelis warring spying lying will be outed once and for all. Racist Scum is His Story not future Black Story taking over flipping the script with guns back in their face
Don’t watch that yank shit
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Unity, Unification Dub
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@ Easy Squeeze
Time is supposed to make us wiser unfortunately, with the calcification of the brain that we ole fogeys are challenged with, many of us become real stupid over the years.
I fall into this category of the ageing fool
To underscore this Easy let me give you another perspective of the failed opportunity of “The Interview”
Psychological Operations also called PsyOps speaks to “planned operations to convey selected information and indicators to foreign audiences to influence their emotions, motives, objective reasoning, and ultimately the behavior of foreign governments, organizations, groups, and individuals. The purpose of psychological operations is to induce or reinforce foreign attitudes and behavior favorable to the originator’s objectives”
The Interview was such an opportunity to “Persuade. Change. Influence” the target audience.
Where Hollywood failed and Sony missed the bus was (i) the lack of the comedic in the script and (ii) more importantly killing Jong-Un
Let me see if I can explain this to you in terms of the imminent General Elections for Bulbados.
To launch a campaign about the blatant abuse of funds of the coffers of Bulbados, while this would be of import and impact to the more educated Bajan electorate, WILL FIAL MISERABLY among the “49% of Bajan illiterati and dipshits in the gaza neighbourhoods that abounds in my cvntry.
Comedy, animation, Dub music and other inconsequential brainwashing materials will be the tool(s) that will persuade our dumbass masses that our dumbass leaders of this administration, need to be changed.
Reason is lost on these savage beasts.
I am sorry if the ole man attracts the ire of the champions of the 79% (I said 49% earlier but that was a mistake on the iPad).
Yes these idiots are in great numbers in our cvntry.
The picture missed an opportunity to denigrate as opposed to stirring up national patriotism when they kill the fearless leader.
Remember the effect that Noel Lynch’s comment on the Dead King David Thompson in the constituency where Fumble Stuart was running?
Packaging that $3.3M fee paid to DT and Associates for the betrayal of the Bajan populace in a format (comedy/skit/animation) that the 3,000 illiterate voters in Deacons and the Pine could have identified with would have been more effective on an internet site than those nails in Noel’s comments about the King being in Hell
Sometimes you have to use sugar to get the bees out of your house as opposed to smoking them out if only to protect the clothes, curtains etc that you have in your house.
The faction that does exist in North Korea that wants “their honourable leader under the lilies” don’t need the United States to tell them how to kill silently by nightshade or scopolamine.
But then again Americans are equally as ingrunt a people as we Bajans
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