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Barbados is one of the very few countries in the whole world that offered free education at the nursery, primary, secondary and tertiary levels
Barbados is one of the very few countries in the whole world that offered free education at the nursery, primary, secondary and tertiary levels…

Saw this important news item on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) – channel 703 MCTV – today, and I immediately went on the internet and found more.

Persons, especially that small group of intellectually bankrupt lecturers at Cave Hill (including some Barbadians) who use their privileged position (at the tax payers expense) to daily bad-mouth the government under the guise of erudite instruction, and the “strangers within our gates” at that place, as well as the clearly adversarial columnists with their jaundiced views, the pseudo social commentators and the tabloid lead writers who feed their listeners/readers a constant diet of pessimism and doom and gloom, should see this.

Of course, Barbados is one of the very few countries in the whole world that offered free education at the nursery, primary, secondary and tertiary levels; and, it’s not the first to ask university students to make a contribution towards their education.  Canada, a prosperous developed country has been doing this for years, and has continuously increased fees.
Have a read below.

Ontario Students to pay Highest Tuition Fees for four more years, report says

TORONTO, Sept. 10, 2014 /CNW/

Data released today by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives predicts Ontario tuition fees will increase to $9,483 by 2017. According to the report, Ontario students will also continue to pay the highest tuition fees in Canada for the next four years.

“This data makes it crystal clear that the Liberal government completely lacks leadership and direction when it comes to post-secondary education,” said Alastair Woods, Chairperson for the Canadian Federation Students-Ontario. “The government has continued to divest from higher education, as fees rise, class sizes swell and student debt levels balloon.”

The provincial government has justified tuition fee increases by offering an array of financial assistance programs that range from loans to grants to post-graduation repayment assistance. The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives’ data shows that even with these programs, Ontario is still one of the least affordable provinces for students from low- and middle-income families.

“Ontario has an affordability crisis that is barring qualified students from pursuing college or university education and saddling thousands more with record levels of student debt,” said Woods. “The province must end its piecemeal approach to higher education and fund our institutions properly so that we can reduce tuition fees and ensure high quality teaching and learning at public colleges and universities.”

The Canadian Federation of Students-Ontario is the largest and oldest student organization in Ontario, representing more than 350,000 college and university students in all regions of the province.

Adjusted for inflation, average college fees across Canada, which were $2,243 in 1990-91, are predicted to rise to $7,437 and even higher by 2016-17, according to the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives

SOURCE Canadian Federation of Students – Ontario


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58 responses to “Who Offers Free Education Anyway”

  1. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926TO 2014 MASSIVE FRAUD LANDTAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS, BARBADOS DLP/BLP MASSIVE PONZI FRAUD Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926TO 2014 MASSIVE FRAUD LANDTAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS, BARBADOS DLP/BLP MASSIVE PONZI FRAUD

    Some people just done know how to be free or what Free means, We as a people and our own people need not to look at other to know what to do,

    In North American fees move up to keep classes of people out, To make a more of salves for the middle and poor , making it harder to reach the books.
    We need no have to look North for what we want to justify . If so why not we head people posting on how land is deeded out, bought with law and now fraud,
    Until you all on sided crook posters look at all things including land you will never reach where you want to go.,Crook fill their own pockets and then close the gates on others , Why not then let the big crooks who went to UWI and learn how to steal so well pay 17.5% for all went to school for free when free was free. Now shit up rich and tell other no more.

    Submitted by Douglas@ Why dont you try posting how Canada and US of A sell and buy land and what the law require to do so ,Show us that you are not part of the problem ,
    White people blocking black people up North with different trick with school .
    Brown VS Board of Ed.
    Barbados broke for the land law broke and all the UWI pimp title holders selling and holding land with out any taxes being paid , Look at the companies not paying and the media not saying a word, For CBC , them self are crooks with the information on the truth,
    PIMP title holder just dont want for the people to learn first hand how they crook Barbados.So now the plan to keep them stupid,and to tel them go to Canada for work and to work like slaves in Canada COLD weather,We are Sun People ,.


  2. “Keep them stupid” I have to agree with that statement and it seems to be working ,especially for the moron with the gun at fits village.


  3. At this juncture, more and more Barbadians than ever before in the post-independence history of this country have rightly become increasingly aware that DLP and BLP governments have been primarily responsible for putting this country on the path of becoming a virtual failed state in the foreseeable future.

    At the same time, this growing multitude of Barbadians have also appropriately rendered the DLP and BLP totally and permanently incapable of properly managing the national social political material and financial affairs of this country.

    Imagine in this day and age of increasing intellectual and scientific developments across many parts of the globe, that the person who wrote this particularly awful DLP submission is still believing that there is a money cost to education in Barbados, or any where else, for example, via illustrative reference to the particular situation in Ontario Canada, when it is so abundantly clear that money and education are two entirely different mutually exclusive variables, with the actuality that one does not depend on the other to exist!!

    Money exists because of a counting system, a money producing system, etc.

    Education/indoctrination exists because of human developed knowledge awareness systems, human teaching pedagogic capacities, human evolved communication/information techniques, sensory and intellectual/mental capacities for acquisition of knowledge/information from particular sources by students, etc

    Both these intellectually and politically backward, bankrupt and discredited DLP and BLP factions must be driven from the parliament of this country by the broad masses and middle classes of Barbados in the shortest possible time.

    PDC


  4. @ ALL BU
    Everything man made can be manipulated – FACT.
    Human Right # 26
    The Right to Education

    1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

    2. Education shall be directed to the full development of the human personality and to the strengthening of respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms. It shall promote understanding, tolerance and friendship among all nations, racial or religious groups, and shall further the activities of the United Nations for the maintenance of peace.

    3. Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children….


  5. Students and parents in Canada have options to finance education.

    Part time jobs. Tim Hortons, McDonalds. Supermarkets etc.

    There are also grants and subsidies for low income students.

    then there is osap.

    https://osap.gov.on.ca/OSAPPortal


  6. A good education in America from the K to 12 grade level depends a hold lot on the school district in which a child lives. But it is only at the college level, where those kids who have gotten an inadequent education, usually ends up in remedial classes in college. And yes, there is such a thing as a free education in America because people who earns less that forty-thousand dollars annually, can obtain a free education through federal grants which paid for their Classes, Books, Fees and parking.


  7. Sometimes in our haste to defend a cause, loved one, team, or in this case, a political party, we often present “evidence” to substantiate our defense of this cause. However, if we took time to read and analyse this “evidence”, we would realise it is not entirely applicable.

    For example, the author has introduced a Canadian article relative to an increase in tuition fees in that country, as a correlation to Barbados asking UWI students to pay tuition costs. However, in doing so, he has conveniently over looked some very significant points.

    1) “Data released today by the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives predicts Ontario tuition fees will increase to $9,483 BY 2017.”
    Pay close attention to the key phrase in the above excerpt is “tuition fees will increase to $9,483 “BY” 2017”. This means that the fees will PROGRESSIVELY increase to $9,483 over a 4 year period. In other words, Canada did not burden its citizens by implementing the increase IMMEDIATELY.

    In Barbados, the introduction of the tuition fee policy was IMMEDIATE and not gradual. It also came against the background of over 3,000 former civil servants still not receiving severance pay after almost 7 months after being retrenched.

    2) “The provincial government has justified tuition fee increases by offering an array of financial assistance programs that range from loans to grants to post-graduation repayment assistance.”

    What assistance has the government offered? The MoE waited until a few days before registration to reverse decisions previously made concerning the Student Revolving Loan Fund. Until recently, people over 50 years and over could not access the fund nor be guarantors for loans.

    The government did not lobby the banking sector on behalf of students by introducing legislation to govern loan policy in respect of student loans. The banks and financial institutions should have been mandated to offer educational loans at low interest rates.

    Douglas, are you and AC the best the DLP can send to represent them on Barbados Underground?


  8. Douggie, can we approach the Constituency Councils for help in paying these tuition fees.

    Surely, if they could find money to host a football tournament, they could help at least 3 people from each constituency.


  9. Life Changer

    I wonder what criteria you’re utilizing to construct this so call human personality? Your suggestion in my estimation, really undermines the very concepts of mental and intellectual autonomy? Are you cognizant of what you’re trying to advancing sir?


  10. Artaxerxes just so you know I am a DLP supporter. did you read
    Hants | September 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM |


  11. And here is some more Canadiana.

    “The majority of Canadian workers continue to live paycheque to paycheque, with 59% saying they would be in financial difficulty if their paycheque was delayed by a week.”

    http://www.payroll.ca/en/MediaRoom/NewsAnnoucements/paycheque1.aspx


  12. Life Changer

    Education ought to be designed to teach people how to think critically, based on sufficient evidence, and to compel them obey any set of authorative principles.


  13. Sorry, Life Changer, I meant to say that education shouldn’t be designed to compel any person to obey any set of authorative derectives. And the concept of the human -personality is a hypothetical – construct, one would think.


  14. Hindsight is 20/20.

    The implementation of tuition fees at UWI was flawed and the process for assistance to students needs to be fast tracked.

    I still believe education should be taxpayer funded because University educated people pay more taxes than most workers who don’t have a degree.

    However the big problem Barbados faces is an economy that needs to be reworked and restructured.

    Tourism, Sugar, Financial services. same old same old.

    We need new viable industries and businesses. We need UWI, BCC and SJPP to be restructured.


  15. Anyone know where we can get a good plumber, piper fitter or electrician, a Cisco certified tech or a Enviromental Engineer. Times are changing. Everything being taught has to be evaluated as to how it fits into the needs of society.


  16. @ SITH who wrote “Everything being taught has to be evaluated as to how it fits into the needs of society.”

    Brilliant and that includes arts and other non technical subjects.


  17. @ Dompey
    Firstly, a good day.
    Now, back at you.
    It seems purely accademic but the study of HUMANMATRIX entails -“Identify your personality type with the Jung Typology Test™. Obtain your type description and discover which career choices and schools are the most suitable for your type.” This would shorely be a bit of an IQ test. The criteria and entry level’s for this wouldn’t be possible for say a third word county. And this should also apply to the teachers/ school achievement records.
    Where you are lucky if you have “access” to good schools is also a factor. As some of these comments are made here on the BU from overseas bloggers, the interpretation of the captioned matter changes. Knowlage is a powerful tool, who has access to it and how much it costs, will always be in flux. I say if you have access to a computer and funds you can take many an online course. The pure fact that here in a third world country you either have money or you don’t causes the conundrum for many of these captioned matters. What’s in your wallet…


  18. Douglas aren’t taxpayers already paying for education? and as far as I understand the past Leader of the DLP said that education was to be from the cradle to the grave? What get me is all these people who are now saying Barbadian should pay for their education, & their health services have paid for them in taxes; and further more they benefited from the free education. It was a haphazard introduction. What the student who can’t continue with their studies should be doing now is to sue the M of E, and the government for stopping them from continuing their education, especially the ones who have started, and now can’t continue. They must have signed forms, etc. get some of the same educated lawyers, and put on a law suite, see where it goes from there.


  19. just asking | September 11, 2014 at 11:57 AM |

    “Douglas aren’t taxpayers already paying for education? … What get me is all these people who are now saying Barbadian should pay for their education, & their health services have paid for them in taxes.”

    Point of information. Personal income-tax payers have not already paid for tertiary education, because the cost of educating students at UWI vastly outstrips the take from personal income tax.

    We could of course reallocate the budget, so that all Cave Hill students get a free ride on the backs of payers of personal income tax. But in that case we’d have to stop garbage collection or street lighting or road maintenance. Maybe fire half the police force or run the port on a three-day week. Who wants to choose?

    If those who gain university degrees are likely to have higher incomes than those who don’t, it is pefectly sensible to expect them (if and when they pass a certain income threshhold) to pay back at least part of the cost of the education that led to their having that income.


  20. Douglas;

    I hope you factored into your calculations that perhaps free education was positively correlated with the relative progress that Barbados has made over the years as compared with those countries that did not have such a policy.

    Hope you realise where this new policy might be taking us.


  21. As perhaps one of the intellectually bankrupt lecturers at Cave Hill, may I inquire how may one “daily bad-mouth the government under the guise of erudite instruction”?


  22. Jeff Cumberbatch;

    That’s easy in this current dispensation.

    Just say anything that Douglas interprets as being even remotely damaging to the Government.

    eg. If you opine to students in a classroom setting at Cave Hill that it might have been wrong for functionaries in the Ministry of Education or Finance to give students at the Trinidad Law School the impression that they were exempt from paying the enhanced fees that other students are eminently saddled with, that could be interpreted as badmouthing the government under the guise of erudite instruction.

    I’m certain you can find much better examples.


  23. We are living in times where no leadership exist. All decisions appear to be driven by rabid partisan political BS.


  24. […] David Submitted by Douglas Saw this important news item on the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC) […]


  25. @ David

    Wuh I can’t believe this is what “Douglas” conjured to justify the introduction of tuition fees. “Douglas” was happy to highlight the fact that in Toronto tuition is not fee and constantly increasing, but failed to mention the downside to the system: http://cfsontario.ca/downloads/CFS-Racialised%20Impact%20of%20Tuition%20Fees.pdf

    The small decline in Law and Medicine is not a coincidence!!!!


  26. aren’t we now paying extra taxes for solid waste ? so where does our taxes go, supporting our MP’s life style?


  27. David wrote “We are living in times where no leadership exist.”

    Wrong David. We are living in times where BAD leadership exist.


  28. @Hants

    Looks like an oxymoron, your last comment 🙂


  29. Well well it wasn’t hard to predict the Hotel Association got their demand for all the Sandals concessions yet they grumbling and blue vex. What’s new? This unproductive cycle will never end until these parasites bleed the treasury dry. Mind you the tourist business is on a downward spiral and these hotel jokers will not or cannot do anything to stem the tide. Their one horse pony show is blame the government, blackmail the government and make demands. When their demands are met they make further demands. Their responsibilities on the other hand are nil. They don’t promote they don’t market and the tourist business to Barbados declining by the day. They say it takes two hands to clap the hotel association doesn’t play that game thank you if the government does not clap and cough up the marketing monies and concessions for tourism nothing happens. Even when government meets the hotel millionaire owners strident demands nothing happens. Now they are not signing a memo to give local farmers first dig at produce sold to hotels. Are these people Barbadians? Where does their disloyalty end? One verbose hotelier actively encouraged tourists to by pass Barbados and go to St. Lucia. That bastard is not the only one. A friend of mine opined that hotel association demands will not stop until the treasury is empty and the country bankrupt.


  30. @ Waiting

    Did Butch signed MOUs with the BMA and BADMC? Just asking!


  31. Will ask the question again, why would the government have waiting through the Summer before communicating to the Hugh Wooding students and some Vet students we understand they have to pay? According to a spokesman for the students they borrowed from the SRLF expecting government would have paid certain start of term fees.


  32. What a wicked incompetent bunch of idiots we have for a government! Did anyone see the PM on DLPTV tonight? What a mess!


  33. Re the BHTA………………..James Paul is a real hypocrite. I heard him complaining that the Butch Stewart freebies had nothing in them to force him to buy anything local. He just talked and talked but now he wants to ram the Stinkliar’s MOU down the throats of the BHTA. Bloody hypocrite!


  34. who offers Free education Anyway? good question……………. still waiting for an erudite answer


  35. Taxpayer funded tertiary education is logical if there are enough disciplines that that prepare graduates for high paying jobs.

    Lawyers, Doctors and Engineers pay more income tax than bus drivers and farm labourers.

    The government is forced to make students pay fees because it is broke not because free education is a bad concept.


  36. @Canadian Federation of Students “The Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives’ data shows that even with these programs, Ontario is still one of the least affordable provinces for students from low- and middle-income families….“Ontario has an affordability crisis that is barring qualified students from pursuing college or university education and saddling thousands more with record levels of student debt,” said Woods. “The province must end its piecemeal approach to higher education and fund our institutions properly so that we can reduce tuition fees and ensure high quality teaching and learning at public colleges and universities.”

    Dear Douglas what part of the above don’t you understand?

    1. Ontario is still one of the least affordable provinces for students from low- and middle-income families (BAD)
    2. an affordability crisis that is barring qualified students from pursuing college or university education (BAD)
    3. an affordability crisis that is…saddling thousands more with record levels of student debt (BAD)
    4. The province [Ontario] must end its piecemeal approach to higher education and fund our institutions properly {which is to say that Ontario is NOT funding its higher education institutions properly] (BAD)

  37. @ Hants
    Which doctors, lawyers and engineers are you talking about?
    Self employed ones?
    Probably you mean that they SHOULD pay more taxes than bus drivers….


  38. I would take wunna jokers seriously if everybody who has earned one tax funded degree from UWI would start giving UWI $100 per month and continue doing until death.

    And if everybody who has earned 2 tax funded degrees from UWI would start giving $200 per month and would continue doing so until death.

    And if everybody who has earned 3 tax funded degrees from UWI would start giving UWI $300 per month and would continue doing so until death.

    And if every Cabinet member, present and past and future would give UWI an upfront sum of $10,000 right now and then continue giving $100, $200 or $300 as above until death.

    It is called GIVING BACK. You do not kick down the ladder once you have reached the top. Once you have reached the top you give back so that bigger and better and longer ladders can be built.

    Wunna DLP jokers have NO CONSCIENCE.


  39. Dear PDC

    Since you are a UWI graduate I’d like to see you start giving UWI $100 per month, and stop writing sh!te.


  40. how many would be willing to pay more taxes to guarantee one graduate per household,,this should be interesting,,can;t wait to see the voting “like ” votes,,,HA..HA,


  41. I would be willing to pay more tax to guarantee one graduate per household.


  42. This rotten egged Government boasted that for them and their Fatted Calf breed of the political class asses.that Barbados was more than an economy,that it was a society.
    So what did these bag blind hoes do?Systematically set about to reverse all the gains of the middle class,the glue that holds together any society
    sensible enough to encourage them.All the gains made by the EWB,JMGHA and OSA wiped out in 6 short years.Every conceivable tax has been revisited and increased.The question that needs to be asked is Where is that fair society these dirty, low down Douglases promised in 2007/8.In St John cemetery reposing with the dead king,no doubt,because Idi Amin Stuart and the pugnacious,verbally challenged MoE are living proof that without a thought for what the morrow will bring they have begun the process of destroying the hopes of Barbados’s single most important asset–its young people.The introduction of university fees will surely bring about social inequality,a goal these misfits have seen to.I hope the youth of this country vote with a vengeance in the next election to rid Barbados of these parasites called the Democratic Labour Party aka Douglas Leopold Phillips.Gaul bline all ‘o wunna for destroying our Paradise island.Wunna effing hoes all.


  43. was just an illusion..now the chickens have come home to roost,,count them…


  44. Gabriel,

    Well said, strong language notwithstanding. Most young people look forward to the university experience and these bastards have taken that all away.

    I hope the young people remember these deceitful idiots next time and stop this foolish talk that all politicians are the same and they are not voting.

    One thing I know for sure, the dems can never ever brag again that they gave Barbadians free education………………which by the way is not totally true……..it was a process in train and Barrow finished the project.


  45. Dear Douglas:

    The unemployment rate in Ontario is 7%. Did you know that? Do you know that the unemployment in Barbados is >13%

    You must not just give the facts about Canadian/Ontario university fees.

    You must tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.


  46. The Economist magazine (June 28th-July 4th 2014) has a very interesting article entitled ” Creative destruction, Reinventing the university” which all of you should try an read where possible.

  47. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926TO 2014 MASSIVE FRAUD LANDTAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS, BARBADOS DLP/BLP MASSIVE PONZI FRAUD Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926TO 2014 MASSIVE FRAUD LANDTAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS, BARBADOS DLP/BLP MASSIVE PONZI FRAUD

    PDC as We see it hell or to cold with Canada , like we need that place for one shite, Niggers always talking for white people so they dont have to say a word as we talk much wrong and bull, In Canada do as they do by their own laws now seem to be action more like American dealing with class and race,, The poor slaves ran there for it was more free than the south and Moors held title in France and also help defeat England who also were slave holders, Canada is a much different place than 50 or 100 years, Bajans only have that place to run to when things looking bad and the people there come in out Sun and watch the fools run North to the cold,

    we never heard of a Bajan died for lack of heat , or frozen to death ,Never hear a Bajan starve to death , or cant find clean water to drink

    Run to Canada to get what an Apple Iphone 6? lap top? winter coat?
    The mind set of some of you is more brainwashed than ever,

    Bajans need to go no where to look for work nor a home , As other come and take behind our back with the help of the pimp title holders,

    Better think or re think or just try thinking on The good Life God gave the Caribbean that the World can see as other look to trick us out of small rock

    Let COW and family and friends take there Ass up there with their tricks an see how long they will last, Goddard , Scumbag lawyer and other holders of the Massive PIMP being done to Bajan,

    Off to the Embassy for a Visa with no schooling in another country will lead you to walking old people, washing ass, cleaning houses, walking dogs , working at fast food and coming back to Bim over weight and hight blood pressure awaiting to died full of drugs and police record for walking while black , driving while back ,
    Better read the news Live From North American , remember all black look alike to red neck , kkk supporters in police uniforms, covering up for each other, Get the Picture,

    Just remove theses Crooks , Liars and Scumbags from office and see you self clear of this Massive Fraud in Barbados ,

  48. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    @Gabriel

    I feeling you sister. The SSS has not been able to come on here as regular as before because job projects and a string of business prospects have me tied down. But reading your expressed view on these silly billies reeling the hand of power is too refreshing. But sister, it would be good to balance your assertions with a view on the shite those other A-holes on the opposing side contributed to this slide as well. The SSS likes your expressions, expressions she herself have used profanely, much to the annoyance of some of the saints on here who must have been happy to see her prolong absence. But you have seen clearly that when you are dealing with cunts you cannot call them nothing less than big head arrogant cunts. Such is the nature of this bunch of yahoos in the DLP led government who whilst trying to plug the hole created by them and the previous cunts have open up a larger hole that threatens the social stability of our fragile society. Barbados is now a pressured and stressed society and when a society reaches that point the only thing that is left to come forth is an explosion.

  49. overseasbajanyankee Avatar
    overseasbajanyankee

    @Prodical

    why is it u always have a story to tell about the current dlp politicians, don’t you have any about the blp ones? greedy hot will cool.

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