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"Historical Palestine was peopled by indigenous Palestinians."
“Historical Palestine was peopled by indigenous Palestinians.”

The Zionist regime in Palestine only started to emerge after the 1880’s (AD). And despite the lies told by the Christian Bible, there was never a geographical location anywhere on earth called Israel, never! During the 1890’s the discourse for a Jewish nation state continued to receive popular support in public narratives. After World War One that discourse, with the help of the allied powers, had reached its ascendancy. We then had the Balfour Declaration (1917), the secret Franco-Anglo-Russo, Sykes-Pico Agreement (1916) as the relative winners of WW1 had displaced the Ottoman Empire and now had designs, largely for the petroleum resources, on Western Asia now known as the Middle East and North Africa regions. So the proposed state of Israel was seen as a beachhead for Western oil and capitalist interests.

So Israel, in Western eyes, was merely a cat’s paw for imperialism. Of course, it helped to have this project marketed within the invisibility of biblical writings even when most of its founders were staunchly atheist. Even today, most so-called Jewish people are non-religious. This Zionist project for occupation continued with the Nakba of 1948, the 1967 war, the 1973 war and a series of interventions since. Within the last five years there have been three separate and distinct large-scale slaughters of the Palestinians by the marauding Zionist regime.

Any talk, by anyone, that there was some historic place known as Israel is patently false! Any suggested that some god somewhere in the shy is some real estate agent with an ability to bestow one peoples’ land to another is the type of propaganda that Goebbels would envy – the bible. This propaganda of biblical proportions was deftly deployed by the Rothschild in setting up the colonial, fictitious, settler entity, of an apartheid state which now calls itself Israel.

And the histories of this period are clear. Historical Palestine was peopled by indigenous Palestinians. Yes, there were small numbers of Jewish people living there like there are small numbers living in all Arab countries still. So this notion that some god could give somebody a right to commit genocide against the Palestinians to supposedly occupy a land without a people by a people who never had a land is a monstrous untruth. And this Christian god has to be told this! And decent Jews are well aware of this. The Neturei Karta, a Jewish sect which is fundamentally opposed to the establishment of a Jewish state teaches that the Judaic tradition, properly interpreted, relies on the return of a ‘messiah’ as a condition precedent to the setting up of god’s kingdom on earth.

The dispensationalists, warmongering Christians, especially in the USA, but with their Black lackeys, sheeple, in the Caribbean and Africa, are trying their utmost to create the conditions for a nuclear holocaust that will hasten the arrival of their Jesus. In their machinations millions of Jews and others will die but for them no price is too high to make Jesus return when they want him to. In all this madness somehow the Jews are to forget their religion and become Christians. This is like asking a son to be the father of his father. What madness! In their minds there is to be a mad rush for conversion if they want to ‘be caught up’, in this madness. So these  Christian dogs of war, in the West, are the god of their own god. And these are the conditions which these rabid, rancid, evangelical, criminals Christians are creating. Not only in Palestine but in the wider Middle East. What foolishness!

These forces are conspiring to breakup all the nation states in the Middle East so that the Zionist regime will have no challengers. Divide and rule. We are saying that the invasions resulting from the September 11, 2001 false flag or national security event , the prior plans to invade a number of ME countries and the current Western sponsored Takfari terrorist-imposed civil wars are all connected to the Western ‘christian crusade’ to force the return of Jesus. To these criminal Christians it matters not that 30% percent of Palestinians are themselves Christians. It matter not, that for every Israeli killed by the crude missile technology of the resistance groups, hundreds of Palestinian women, children and elderly have died in this latest onslaught on the world’s largest open air prison (Gaza). Gaza an enclave under a brutal Zionist occupation. A population which is to have no means whatsoever of self defense. Whose children routinely, are made to starve by these Zionists. Whose harbours can never be opened to trade. Whose electrical generation plants can never provide electricity for more than a few hours daily. Whose sewer systems have been bombed by Israel repeatedly. Whose scarce water resources are stolen by Israel or made not potable. And these are the people Christian are still telling lies about them being the chosen people of a god. Is this a people anyone should trust to write a sacred book. Maybe, just maybe, Adolf Hitler knew something that we are yet to learn. The Zionist, in the name of world Jewry are doing the same kinds of things to the Palestinians that Hitler did to European Jews and others.

And we have Obama who pretends to challenge Netanyahu but this is a mere trick. The same Braggart Obama you boosted about giving the regime in Tel Aviv all types of illegal weapons, including DIME, to use on civilian populations. These are war crimes. Israel has been the most lawless entity this world has ever seen. We call for its total destruction by any means necessary. But to cut off the head of this serpent we have to first kill the support mechanisms. For in the end it is an artificially constructed entity which could not last a week without Western support. Some have tried with South African Apartheid era BDS (boycott divestment and sanctions) initiatives but Israel is worst than  South Africa, by far. South Africa never bombed its bantustands, repeatedly, with the latest military hardware, supplied by the United States, over 65 years.

And it takes little to influence Netanyahu or any other Israeli PM to slaughter Palestinians in their numbers. This time Netanyahu was ready to use the excuse that 3 Zionist settlers were killed by Hamas. Despite the repeated denials from Hamas, the West Bank was invaded by larger numbers of soldiers seeking revenge. Western media were as usual sympathetic to the Zionist narrative. But when these same soldiers killed a young Palestinian boy and were captured on film beating others nearly to death there was not even a mention. While all along the West knew that Netanyahu’s motivation was the political unity as recently agreed to by Fatah and Hamas. A political unity that was accepted by the EU and the Americans themselves. Peace is the most dangerous thing for the Zionist, war gives them meaning.

This Zionist project has led the world to a heightened and prolonged state of war and unless we can find a way out of this calculus nuclear weapons will be used to settle scores. The Zionist already have hundreds of illegal nuclear weapons and are unlike to hesitate to use them. But their Christians supports are undaunted by this spectre. It can’t be that we are to wait on some intervention from the sky or to rest on magical thinking. Has this ever helped us before, verifiably?  Already we have become more and more used to, tolerating, the use of battlefield nuclear bombs in conventional warfare.


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289 responses to “Palestine, Oh Palestine!”


  1. Utter garbage!!

    The Bible is not the only ancient text which speaks about the nation of israel. It is one thing to deny the Bible – that is your “God-given” choice. [Do you see the irony?] It is quite another to patently deny independently verifiable historical facts. What kind of academic are you?

    The nation of Israel has existed in antiquity for millenia. But never mind, do not let the facts stand in the way of good rant…

    The Zionist regime in Palestine only started to emerge after the 1880′s
    WRONG

    And despite the lies told by the Christian Bible, there was never a geographical location anywhere on earth called Israel, never! -WRONG! CHECK YOUR SOURCES

    Even today, most so-called Jewish people are non-religious- CORRECT

    Historical Palestine was peopled by indigenous Palestinians- WRONG
    THERE WAS NEVER A ‘PEOPLE CALLED ‘PALESTINIANS’ LIVING IN THE LAND. THEY ARE AN INVENTED NATION; A CREATION OF ARAFAT AND THE PLO.
    REFER TO PRE- 1967 WAR CONTEXT

    The dispensationalists, warmongering Christians, especially in the USA, but with their Black lackeys, sheeple, in the Caribbean and Africa, are trying their utmost to create the conditions for a nuclear holocaust that will hasten the arrival of their Jesus -WRONG!
    YOU MAY BE REFERRING TO THE MUSLIMS WHO ALSO HAVE A MESSIAH – THE MAHDI…WHO WILL ONLY RETURN AFTER THE CALIPHATE IS RE-ESTABLISHED..PLEASE REFER TO IRAQ AND SYRIA FOR DETAILS

    Okay that is enough for now. Here ends today’s lesson. Next time remember son, ignorance was never meant to be worn as a badge of honour.

  2. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    Where were the Jewish before the war? Germany
    Where are the Jewish after the WAR, Should they not go back to where they were and reclaim what was theirs before the war?

    Now they get Jews to come in the make them legal , to try and match the Bible? Jew and Jewish meaning like but not fully

    Why let the UN , now cut off a part body and rename it .. How can they cut out a body of your land and give other more rights than you?

    Sounds like the American way, in the same way they did the Natives.


  3. Yawn, Yawn!



  4. The following was received a couple days ago:

    BARBADOS PRESS RELEASE clip_image002

     

    Another child victim – killed in the current deliberate bombing of homes in Gaza by the Israeli military.

    Caribbean Against Apartheid in Palestine

    BARBADOS:

    According to the Palestinian Authority, since the year 2000, some 1500 children have been killed by Israeli forces in occupied Palestine, to say nothing of the others killed in previous years. This one sided killing spree, is claiming more child victims daily as Israel remorselessly currently targets built up population centres in Gaza and the West Bank, with its overpowering military might.

    In response to these and other atrocities and the racist policies of the Israeli state, on Sunday 6th July 2014  the group “Caribbean Against Apartheid in Palestine” [CAAP], was formed in Barbados, in solidarity with the Palestinian people who have been the victims of this racist colonialism and apartheid for over seven decades, with hundreds of thousands displaced from their homeland, and countless thousands killed. “We in the Caribbean cannot morally condemn the previous apartheid regime in South Africa, while condoning the on-going murderous apartheid in existence in Palestine” Mr. Lalu Hanuman, Attorney-at-law and Secretary of the newly formed CAAP said in an exclusive comment. He went on to quote the late President Nelson Mandela who had said in his address on the occasion of the International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People in Pretoria, on the 4th December 1997: “We know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians”.

    The group, which is part of a global movement in support of the Palestinian people, is troubled that while the United Nations General Assembly recognised Palestine as a non-member state in 2010, Barbados to its great discredit, was one of the few countries to abstain on the UN vote.

    In light of the above, and the historic and current atrocities being committed, the CAAP’s main objectives are to raise awareness in the Caribbean about the Palestinian reality; lobby the Governments of the region on behalf of Palestinians; promote the boycott of Israeli products and sporting, political, cultural, and academic ties between Israel and the Caribbean; support the Palestinians’ legitimate quest for self-determination via solidarity actions; and, the building of global links with other Palestinian solidarity groups. The group intends to achieve its objectives through the publishing of articles in the media; the organising of public meetings and film shows; engagement in debates and discussions with various local groups; and to invite informed international speakers to the region to facilitate the better understanding of the Palestinian reality, and to highlight how war crimes committed with total impunity by Israel, with mainly Western supplied armaments, have had negative ramifications for all of us, not least through heightened global security concerns.

    For more information, or to get involved, you can email: caapartheidinpalestine@gmail.com

    • end of release –

    Issued on the 11th July 2014.


  5. This is an argument you will never win. Israel is the orphan child of old Europe. Old Europe was complicit in the near eradication of Jews, gays, minorities, et al. Someone had to pay the price for this and it was certainly not going to be those illiberal Europeans.

    The nation state Palestine like other groups in history failed to realise that a shift in the demographics of their country would ultimately lead to their destruction. Good-bye Palestine; hello Israel!

    Israel is untouchable. The European countries with their historical shame of their treatment of Jews during many centuries in Europe would never speak out against the barbarism practised by the state of Israel. Neither would America which as we know is a surrogate of Israel.

    The lesson for Barbados is clear: control, limit and monitor those who reside and enter Barbados. Be very cautious with those companies and countries that carry out business or express an interest in doing business with Barbados. History informs as that individuals, groups, businesses and governments are never benign when dealing with blacks and or black states.

    I certainly am not a clairvoyant however mark my words. One hundred years from today the Afro-Bajan will be a minority in their own country. Secondly, the country currently called Barbados will be expunged from the maps and will be renamed.

    Footnote: It’s a shame that The Prime Minister of Ethiopia is not governing Barbados. I’m sure that he would do a better job than the current lame incumbent. Take a listen: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28272112


  6. @Exclaimer

    You make a good point, a two state solution is impossible because Israel will NEVER relinquish control of security in the region especially in Gaza.


  7. `“Israel will NEVER relinquish control of security in the region especially in Gaza.”

    Nor is it likely to relinquish control of Gaza’s off shore natural gas fields.

    War and Natural Gas: The Israeli Invasion and Gaza’s Offshore Gas Fields

    Five years ago, Israel invaded Gaza under “Operation Cast Lead”.

    The following article was first published by Global Research in January 2009 at the height of the Israeli bombing and invasion under Operation Cast Lead.

    In the wake of the invasion, Palestinian gas fields were de facto confiscated by Israel in derogation of international law

    A year following “Operation Cast Lead”, Tel Aviv announced the discovery of the Leviathan natural gas field in the Eastern Mediterranean “off the coast of Israel.”

    At the time the gas field was: “ … the most prominent field ever found in the sub-explored area of the Levantine Basin, which covers about 83,000 square kilometres of the eastern Mediterranean region.” (i)

    Coupled with Tamar field, in the same location, discovered in 2009, the prospects are for an energy bonanza for Israel, for Houston, Texas based Noble Energy and partners Delek Drilling, Avner Oil Exploration and Ratio Oil Exploration. (See Felicity Arbuthnot, Israel: Gas, Oil and Trouble in the Levant, Global Research, December 30, 2013

    The Gazan gas fields are part of the broader Levant assessment area.

    What is now unfolding is the integration of these adjoining gas fields including those belonging to Palestine into the orbit of Israel. (see map below).

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/war-and-natural-gas-the-israeli-invasion-and-gaza-s-offshore-gas-fields/11680


  8. Over the last 30 years I have boycotted all products that have emanated from Israel. In my personal life I make a distinction between the state of Israel and those of Jewish extraction who reside outside of Israel. It is clear that when you meet and talk to this group that they appear – without implicitly stating – to be ashamed and embarrassed about the nation state called “Israel”.

    My heart goes out to Palestine and Palestinians. However my head argues that the Arab race throughout the ages have always despised, brutalised and discriminated against Africans. The Palestine problem should be resolved by the Arabs.

    The Palestinians may have to leave their lands however I do not know if this would satisfy Israel’s lust for power and expansion. The population of Israel is growing fast. Left unchecked Israel could start taking chunks out of Jordan and other soft Middle East countries. The Golan Heights still remains in the hands of Israel.

    The day is coming when Israel will overreach itself, just like the great dictator Napoleon Bonaparte. We all know what the outcome was.


  9. And despite the lies told by the Christian Bible ……
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    I think you mean the Hebrew Bible (as in Old Testament) ……and I can only take this allegation seriously if you can quote the opposite from another book of the time which of course you can’t!!


  10. The paradox for the world and particularly the West is that the politics and unrest of the ME reverberates long and hard.


  11. @ John

    You are too fresh telling us what we can and cannot do. You can do whatever we want to and are not encumbered by your mental handicaps. We say again that the Bible is full of fcuking lies from Genesis to Revelations. And anybody who believes a word of it is a fcuking idiot, including you! Even if this includes 99.9999% of the people in the world!

    There is an abundance of counter narratives out there. He that has eye to see let him see, In addition, bias writings, like the Bible, can never be the sole source of knowledge as you would like. For it is only a very recent work of fiction. We have the oral traditions, archaeological evidence, genetic evidence, physical evidence, linguistic evidence, navigational evidence, migration evidence, traditional evidence, astronomical evidence and we can go on and on, you Johnny ass hole!

  12. Israel / Palestine Avatar
    Israel / Palestine

    Israel / Palestine Conflict
    http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/this_land_is_mine/

    Check list of characters from early man to angel of death


  13. Facts become credible facts, when they are warranted to the relevant degree of certainty. What are the ‘Historic; facts re the so-called ‘Palestinian’ People?

    The Truth About the
    Palestinian People

    The 1948 Israeli War of Independence was between the neighboring Arab countries and the newly formed state of Israel. The Arab countries did not send troops to help the people that are today known as “Palestinians” but rather they sent troops to drive the Jews into the sea. Most of the “Palestinian Arabs” fled to avoid the fighting. Remember, in 1948 they were not referred to as “Palestinians”. This name was was created by the Soviet disinformation masters in 1964 when they created the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO). The term “Palestinian People” as a description of Arabs in Palestine appeared for the first time in the preamble of the 1964 PLO Charter, drafted in Moscow. The Charter was affirmed by the first 422 members of the Palestinian National Council, handpicked by the KGB. This term was formally used by newspapers around the world after 1967.

    United Nations Resolution 181 recommended a partition of the territory from the British Mandate for Palestine into two states – one for Jews and one for Palestinian Arabs. But the rejection of partition by the Arabs left in place as the legally operative Mandate for Palestine, the 1924 Anglo-American Convention, and Article 80 of the United Nations Charter. All of the Arab countries objected to the creation of the Jewish state and fought a war against its creation. This was Israel’s War of Independence in 1948. Despite their superior numbers, the Arab countries lost the war and the Palestinian state never materialized because of this loss. In the war that was waged, the territory allotted to be the Palestinian state by the UN partition resolution was divided between Israel and Jordan. The “Palestinian Arabs” were rejected by every single Arab country, with the exception of the small percentage that ended up in refugee camps in Jordan where they remain to this day.
    http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_.htm

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09pmTh64vD8


  14. Historic FACTS of the Region.

    The History of the Region

    To understand the truth of modern day Israel, you must first have a clear understanding of the history of the region.

    Judea was an autonomous state in the Persian Empire following the return from Babylonian exile thanks to Cyrus, King of Persia. Following the death of Alexander the Great who had captured the Persian Empire, it became part of two Hellenistic.

    Following the Maccabean revolt, Judea became an independent state. Following the death of King Herod, the Romans seized it and it then became a Roman province. Judea was briefly independent during the first revolt against the Romans until it was finally destroyed when the Romans put down the revolt and destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in the year 70.

    Judah lost its independence to Rome in the year 70 and became again a colony. In the year 135, the Romans gave the country the name “Palaestina”. The name Palaestina, which became Palestine in English, is derived from Herodotus, who used the term Palaistine Syria to refer to the entire southern part of Syria, meaning “Philistine Syria.” This was to add insult to injury against the Jewish people. The intent was to remove any memory of a Jewish presence. The name was kept by the next possessors, the Byzantine Empire, and then by the conquering Arabs and their successors, the conquering Turks. Note that we have a succession of different nationalities, none of whom thought of themselves as Palestinians. They were the Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, or Turks.

    About 61 B.C., Roman troops under Pompei invaded Judea and sacked Jerusalem in support of King Herod. Judea had become a client state of Rome. During the seventh century (A.D. 600’s), Muslim Arab armies moved north from Arabia to conquer most of the Middle East, including Palestine. The Seljuk Turks conquered Jerusalem in 1071, but their rule in Palestine lasted less than 30 years.

    During the 7th century, Muslims invaded and the Crusaders from Europe ruled for a time until they were driven out. The Crusaders left Palestine for good when the Muslims captured Acre in 1291. During the post-crusade period, crusaders often raided the coast of Palestine. To deny the Crusaders gains from these raids, the Muslims pulled their people back from the coasts and destroyed coastal towns and farms. This depopulated and impoverished the coast of Palestine for hundreds of years.

    In the mid-1200’s, Mamelukes, originally soldier-slaves of the Arabs based in Egypt, established an empire that in time included the area of Palestine that lasted until the Ottoman Empire defeated the Mamelukes in 1517, and Palestine became part of the Ottoman Empire. The Turkish Sultan invited Jews fleeing the Spanish Catholic inquisition to settle in the Turkish empire, including several cities in Palestine. The Ottoman Empire ruled until the British took control of the area in 1917.

    British Mandate
    In 1922, the British declared that the boundary of Palestine would be limited to the area west of the river. The area east of the river, called Transjordan, which is now the country of Jordan, was made a separate British mandate and eventually given independence. The British maintained control until 1948.

    There was always a Jewish population in the region, most of them resided in the religious communities in Jerusalem, Tz’fat, Tiberius, and Hebron. With Jewish immigration suddenly on the rise from the 1880’s on, the economy of this very under populated and very poor country began to rise dramatically, attracting a parallel stream of Arabs from the surrounding countries who came in looking for jobs. At the same time, Arab/Muslim nationalism and extremism began to rise, spurred by the influx of what they considered “Infidel Jews” and the breakup of the Turkish Empire followed by the occupation by European countries of much of the Middle East.

    From this time through the War of Independence in 1947-49, there were local Arab leaders who called for an independent Palestine (Arab state) in the entire country with not a single inch for a Jewish state. During the 1948 Israeli War of Independence, the local Arab armies and leaders identified with Syria, Jordan, and Egypt and thought of themselves as such. At the end of the war, the Arab allotted land was divided between Israel, Egypt (Gaza), and Jordan. The Egyptians refused to let the Gazans become independent or Egyptian citizens. Eventually, the Jordanians did allow some refugees become citizens, but not all. The Arab states are content to let their brother Arabs remain in those refugee camps that are really crowded and squalid towns and live like that since the UN supported them. Because of this, they make a great political tool used to invoke sympathy, especially in regard to the European countries. That is crass, unfeeling politics, but these same people do not hesitate to strap bombs to their young men and women.

    Another reason why the Palestinian Arabs fled is that they refused to live in a Jewish dominated state. Ironically, had they accepted the partition and those in Israel not fled, Israel would have had a huge and growing Arab population and indefensible borders.
    http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_truth.htm


  15. A Few Forgotten Facts

    1. Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE, two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

    2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

    3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 BCE, the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

    4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 CE lasted no more than 22 years.

    5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

    6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

    7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

    8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

    9. In 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier.

    10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution, and slaughter.

    11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

    12. Arab refugees were intentionally not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own people’s lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

    13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

    14. The PLO’s Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them.

    15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

    16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs: of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

    17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

    18. The UN was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians.

    19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

    20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like a policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.
      http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_truth.htm


  16. The Modern Day Conflict

    The Vast Empire of Israel
    From the 1948 Israeli War of Independence, “Palestinian Arabs” have been sacrificed as pawns by all other Arab countries as they are to this day. No other Arab country has ever offered to accept any of these people into their own countries even though they are well able to do so. To the Arab countries and the rest of the anti-Semitic world, the “Palestinian Arabs” are useful only as a tool to exterminate Israel and the rest of the Jews in the Middle East. Otherwise, their welfare is of no concern to the rest of the Arab world.

    What about the ingrained notion that the Palestinians are fighting for their ancient homeland annexed by the Jews? The truth about this matter has been so deliberately obscured that even to raise the issue seems strange to many people.

    In the 1967 war, also known as the Six Day War, did Israel annex territory from a Palestinian nation? No, Israel did not take a single inch of territory from Palestine. That is because there is not, nor has there ever been, a Palestinian nation. Israel captured the West Bank and Eastern Jerusalem from Jordan’s King Hussein and the Gaza Strip from Egypt, after they declared war against the Jewish State. It was only following the Six-day War in 1967 that Arab refugees living in these territories began identifying themselves as the “Palestinian People” because the global media labeled them as such. One cannot help but wonder why these Palestinians suddenly discovered a national identity after Israel won the war, but not during the “Jordanian Occupation” or the “Egyptian Occupation”?

    There Was Never A Country
    Called Palestine

    If you consider Palestine to be a “Sovereign” and “Independent” country that goes back through most of recorded history as many would have you to believe, then a few questions need to be answered:

    When was it founded and by whom?

    What were its borders?

    What was its capital?

    Who was the President?

    What was its form of government?

    What were its major cities?

    What constituted the basis of its economy?

    Who was the Palestinian leader before Yasser Arafat?

    Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?

    What was the language of the country of Palestine?

    What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine?

    What was the name of its currency and what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, or Japanese yen on any particular date?

    And, finally, since there is no such country today, what caused its demise and when did it occur?

    If these so-called “Palestinians” are anything but a generic collection of Arabs from all over the rest of the Arab world and if they really have a genuine ethnic identity that gives them right for self-determination, then why did they never try to become an independent and sovereign nation until Arabs suffered their devastating defeat in the Six Day War in 1967?
    http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_truth.htm


  17. The Ten Commandments of Arab Lies

    The “Palestinian People” have an historic connection to the land.
    This is very interesting since there is no such thing as a “Palestinian People”. When the Romans changed the name of Israel to Palestine, the people living there at the time were Jews, not Arabs. If there had been a “Palestinian People”, which there never was, they would have been Jews.

    The Palestinian People have been in the land from time immemorial.
    For centuries pre-Israel Palestine was a forgotten, desolate wasteland inhabited by a remnant of Jews, along with some Christians and wandering Bedouins who certainly had no thought of a national identity of any kind.

    There were no Jews in Palestine until Israel became a state in 1948.
    The Romans officially banished the Jews from Israel (Palestine) in 135 CE. However, historical records show there was always a Jewish presence in the land. While many were scattered, other Jews simply moved out of harm’s way until a less hostile power ruled the land. Jews were returning to what is now Israel well before 1948. Many left Russia after the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917.

    Arabs and Jews lived in harmony before Israel became a state.
    Throughout the centuries, Jews as well as Christians, living under Islamic rule suffered persecution and humiliation, the intensity of which was determined by the character of a particular Moslem ruler. As second-class citizens, there was never a “good time” for non-Muslims living under Islamic rule. Because of the way that most Islamic countries look down on non-Muslims, they are always considered second-class citizens and less than equal. Arabs have rarely lived in harmony with anyone if they were the majority.

    The returning Jews displaced the Palestinian Arabs
    The ancestors of most of the present-day Arab population migrated to the land after Jewish pioneers began to reclaim the land. They came from many different countries and were not original inhabitants of the land.

    The Jews stole Arab land
    Jews returning to the land settled on unclaimed, unoccupied land or bought land from absentee Arab landowners at outrageously high prices. This is a matter of record.

    The Jews forced Arabs to flee Palestine
    When Israel was declared a state in 1948, leaders from the surrounding Arab countries declared war on Israel and instructed the Arab civilians living in the land to flee until the Jews were annihilated. Israeli leaders, to no avail, urged the Arabs to stay. Property that they owned was abandoned.

    The Jews caused the Arab refugee problem
    If Arab countries would assimilate and care for the “Palestinian” refugees, as Israel did for their Jewish refugees, there would be no refugee problem. Instead they use the refugees as political pawns in their struggle against Israel. No Arab country that wants “Palestinian Arabs” in their country as they would rather use the “Palestinian Arabs” as pawns rather than assimilate them into their populations and bring peace to the Middle East.

    Israel is the aggressor against defenseless Palestinians
    In its brief history, Israel has had one war after another and each time they are blamed as the aggressor. The Arabs do not recognize the right of Israel to exist and are in a constant state of hostility against Israel. Their aim is to destroy Israel.

    Jerusalem is holy to Muslims
    While Jerusalem is mentioned over eight hundred times in the Bible, it is not mentioned one time in the Koran. Muslims have had little or no interest in Jerusalem until the Jewish presence in modern times.
    http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_truth.htm

  18. Angel of Death Avatar

    Boom!!
    http://youtu.be/xoJ3UmuqZFs


  19. THE JEWISH SITUATION
    by
    Larry Miller

    A brief overview of the situation is always valuable, so as a service to all Americans who still do not get it, I now offer you the story of the Middle East in just a few paragraphs, which is all you really need. Don’t thank me. I am a giver. Here we go:

    The Palestinians want their own country. There is just one thing about that: There are no Palestinians. It is a made up word. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like “Wiccan”, “Palestinian” sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in war, Gaza belonged to Egypt and there were no “Palestinians” then. The West Bank belonged to Jordan, and there were no “Palestinians” then. As soon as the Jews took over and started growing oranges as big as basketballs, what do you know, say hello to the “Palestinians”, weeping for their deep bond with their lost “land” and “nation.” So for the sake of honesty, let us not use the word “Palestinian” any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our deaths until someone points out they are being taped. Instead, call them what they are: “Other Arabs From The Same General Area Who Are In Deep Denial About Never Being Able To Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.” I know that is a bit unwieldy to expect to see on CNN. How about this, then: “Adjacent Jew-Haters.”

    Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing. No, they do not. They could have had their own country any time in the last thirty years, especially two years ago at Camp David. But if you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks and Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living. That is no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course – that is where the real fun is – but mostly they want Israel. Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel – or “The Zionist Entity” as their textbooks call it – for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they are the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God’s Earth, and if you have ever been around God’s Earth, you know that is really saying something. It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I am missing something, the Arabs have not given anything to the world since Algebra, and, by the way, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.

    Chew this around and spit it out: Five hundred million Arabs; five million Jews. Think of all the Arab countries as a football field, and Israel as a pack of matches sitting in the middle of it. And now these same folks swear that if Israel gives them half of that pack of matches, everyone will be pals. Really? Wow, what neat news. Hey, but what about the string of wars to obliterate the tiny country and the constant din of rabid blood oaths to drive every Jew into the sea? Oh, that? We were just kidding.

    My friend Kevin Rooney made a gorgeous point the other day: Just reverse the numbers. Imagine five hundred million Jews and five million Arabs. I was stunned at the simple brilliance of it. Can anyone picture the Jews strapping belts of razor blades and dynamite to themselves? Of course not. Or marshalling every fiber and force at their disposal for generations to drive a tiny Arab state into the sea? Nonsense. Or dancing for joy at the murder of innocents? Impossible. Or spreading and believing horrible lies about the Arabs baking their bread with the blood of children? Disgusting. No, as you know, left to themselves in a world of peace, the worst Jews would ever do to people is debate them to death.

    Mr. Bush, God bless him, is walking a tightrope. I understand that with vital operations coming up against Iraq and others, it is in our interest, as Americans, to try to stabilize our Arab allies as much as possible, and, after all, that cannot be much harder than stabilizing a roomful of supermodels that have just had their drugs taken away. However, in any big-picture strategy, there is always a danger of losing moral weight. We have already lost some. After September 11th our president told us and the world he was going to root out all terrorists and the countries that supported them. Beautiful. Then the Israelis, after months and months of having the equivalent of an Oklahoma City every week and then every day, start to do the same thing we did, and we tell them to show restraint. If America were being attacked with an Oklahoma City every day, we would all very shortly be screaming for the administration to just be done with it and kill everything south of the Mediterranean and east of the Jordan. (Hey, wait a minute, that is actually not such a bad idea… uh, that is, what a horrible thought, yeah, horrible.)
    http://www.targetopportunity.compalestinian_truth.htm

  20. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar

    Zoe
    The HISTORICAL information that you have provided AGAIN (and that you provide when ever these morons produce their hog swill) CAN NOT BE REFUTED.

    BU has become a forum and stage for absolute morons to parade their ignorance.
    GREAT ENTERTAINMENT FOR A BORED PERSON.
    ALL THE BOVINE EXCREMENT THAT IS SPEWED WILL THAT NOT STOP WHAT HAS BEEN ORDAINED.

    I sit back now in anticipation of a slew of rubbish for the next week or so. It will be fun as the herd warms up with their ignorance and illogic


  21. Zoe is a Zionist Propagandist in Yiddo Cyber Wars
    No Christian like JC Lord of Dance Prince of Peace
    Georgie Porgie is an alcoholic Fucced up on God



  22. Yes GP, they CANNOT REFUTE THE FACTS, they will come with ‘Red-Herring’ distractives, utter NONSENSE, folly and foolishness!

    Because, The structure of JUSTIFICATION, in defending any proposItional TRUTH-CLAIM, IS* COHERENCE, our sole criteria for TRUTH, IS* COHERENCE, which they have NONE; whereas, ISRAEL and JEWS, have TONS of historic, COHERENT, WARRANTED, JUSTIFIABLE FACTS* and EVIDENCE, over 3000 years of HISTORY, which CANNOT BE REFUTED, can be denied by intellectually DISHONEST, IGNORANT people, but simply CANNOT BE REFUTED!


  23. What is interesting of late is the lessening influence of the USA concerning relations in the ME. How will this impact.


  24. @ David

    This certainly is the central question. You are talking about a hegemon, maybe former, which has been shown to be a supporter of terrorism. A warmonger. An Empire which is losing its influence. A staunch supporter of Israel. Israel, a fake state which is in decline much like its benefactor/s. People everywhere have had enough of the duplicity of the Americans and their influence is markedly on the wane. The Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese have more soft power than the Americans. Yes, they may still have more hard power than some actors but in great power games, soft power, is much more potent than hard power. Bye, bye, Yankees! And take the Zionists with you


  25. We always knew Is (not) rael is a fraud state, they steal and kill in the name of god and are not happy unless the world is watching them commit wholesale slaughter of women, children, and men.

    That land was acquired by England for those criminals calling themselves jews, that too is a fraud.

    I have said previously and i will say again, flatten them, they breed strife and parasites on the earth.


  26. @Pacha

    There is the lack of standing which the US now has in the international arena. There is Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq and other countries which show no improvement after being ravaged by the US military


  27. To the person who calls himself ZOE.
    We really don’t have time to read all that. It may be good to see what this person feels about this issue instead of the ad infinitum, copy and paste, diatribes. We are well aware that the local culture has never encouraged critical thinking but we have determined, against the strong social currents, that it is better to be dead than have to rely, forever, on the thinking of others, including those with whom we regularly agree. It’s better to be dead we find.

    The question, have you ever had an original ideas? If not, could you try in circumstances where you rest on no one. Including you fictitious god and your Jewish lies in your bible?


  28. @ Pachamama,
    I told you that you were fighting a battle that you cannot win. Zoe has presented her view of the history of the Middle East and the formation of the state called Israel. In the interest of balance it would be good to hear from someone from a Palestinian background. I wonder if they would share any common views.

    Zoe’s posts seemed to lack any empathy towards those poor Palestinians who are currently living under duress. The international community should punish Israel however it lacks the collective will to do so.

    I would like to know Zoe’s interpretation of what she would consider to be Israel’s historic borders. Does Israel have historical grounds to expand? Why would a country as powerful as Israel settle for a small slither of land when they have the capabilities and backing to demand a larger slice of territory?

    When you look at how world politics is played out on the chess board you do fear for the future of Barbados.


  29. @ Exclaimer
    What kind of a Christian is this? No empathy for the dispossessed. Even if their Jesus, who never existed, were here right now he would be on the side of the Palestinians. So people like Zoe have no genuine claim to the fiction they espouse. Our best judgment it that these people who proclaim some god in the sky. Who read books that have been proven as replete with lies, qualify as worthy of a man with a white coat coming to take them away.

  30. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Come on herd! You can do better than that!
    Pachamama | July 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM |
    You decry Zoe and others for their alleged lacxk of critical thinking. Now tell me Sir, oh thou lofty braniac. How does one think critically? Dost not one start with facts or information from somewhere?
    Zoe, and I base our opinion on our study of the Bible, and on the fact that most of the promises /prophesies/predictions in the Old Testament have come to pass. Upon what do you base you “critical thinking?” What “original idea” have you based your conclusions on? Which scholar, scientist, researcher has based his conclusion on their “original idea”? Don’t they all start with some facts, or information? Educate me Sir!

    You don’t have the time to read the History that Zoe has presented, but you have dismissed it as fiction and fable. Clearly you are incapable of RIGHT-eous JUDGEMENT.

    You do realize that the concentrated bovine excrement you have written below makes no real sense,
    We are well aware that the local culture has never encouraged critical thinking but we have determined, against the strong social currents, that it is better to be dead than have to rely, forever, on the thinking of others, including those with whom we regularly agree. It’s better to be dead we find.

    Look forward to your ad hominems that demonstrate your illiteracy and ignorance.
    CRITICAL THINKING indeed.

    THIS SHOULD BE FUN


  31. @George Porgie

    No, we all just have to read the bible, like you, for enlightenment. If one is an ass hole.

  32. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Enigma | July 15, 2014 at 11:44 AM |

    Georgie Porgie does not drink alcohol Sir.
    Pachamama | July 15, 2014 at 12:28 PM |

    Re Israel, a fake state which is in decline much like its benefactor/s. People everywhere have had enough of the duplicity of the Americans and their influence is markedly on the wane. The Russians, the Iranians, the Chinese have more soft power than the Americans.

    The Russians and the Iranians are “the kings of the north” as Ezekiel predicts. They will get stronger in time for their total destruction in due course. The Chinese are part of the “kings of the east” complete with its very large armies ready to march only to be destroyed as Ezekiel predicts.

    Eschatologists can observe the expected decline of America which has no place at all in end time events.

    Eschatologists await the total destruction of Syria as predicted, the false peace between Israel and its enemies and the tearing down of the walls it has set up.

    Maybe the fun has just begin. Why don’t you watch as it all plays out BECAUSE EXCEPT FOR TALKING RUBBISH< YOU AND THOSE OF YOUR ILK CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING OR GOING TO HAPPEN.
    YOU GOT TO LIKE IT OR LUMP IT. LOL

    BARE FUN


  33. @ Pachamama,
    I’m afraid that events on the ground have taken an ugly turn. The BBC has just reported that one Israeli citizen has just died in a rocket attack. 192 Palestinians have so far been killed; not to mention the hundreds if not thousands who may have been seriously injured.

    It’s going to be a long evening for those wretched Palestinians.

  34. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Pachamama | July 15, 2014 at 1:19 PM |
    @George Porgie

    No, we all just have to read the bible, like you, for enlightenment. If one is an ass hole.

    CANT YOU DO BETTER WITH YOUR AD HOMINEMS AND CRITICAL THINKING SIR?
    DONT YOU HAVE A PROPER ARGUMENT SIR


  35. Jeez GP……is that the only way we can get you on BU…lol

  36. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Exclaimer | July 15, 2014 at 12:49 PM |
    Re Why would a country as powerful as Israel settle for a small slither of land when they have the capabilities and backing to demand a larger slice of territory?

    ==========================
    WHY SHOULD THEY SEEK TO OCCUPY MORE THAN THE “a small slither of land” that they occupy Sir?

    Do you encroach on land that dont belong to you Sir?

    You do know that they have never really occupied fully the land promised to them by God in Genesis 15?

    You do know that they gave up Gaza to the Palestinians in 2005? Gaza was first captured by King David according to my favorite book.

    Re When you look at how world politics is played out on the chess board you do fear for the future of Barbados.

    The future of Barbados has already been taken care of by the morons elected to run Barbados in 2008. Ah lie?

    BARE FUN THIS


  37. The problems of the ME are not being solved by the actors because they are following a biblical roadmap. This is the problem?

  38. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    David
    Are you saying that a biblical road map is a bad road map? LOL

    Actually the Israelis are not following a Biblical road map at all. They are fighting in their own strength, and as they are mostly in “unbelief” they are not depending on God at all. BUT GOD IS STILL ON THE THRONE!

    BARE FUN THIS


  39. @ Exclaimer

    I’m afraid your reading may be wrong. This is our reading. Hamas and the other resistance fighters have determined that the Zionists started this illegal war without cause and therefore for a truce the Zionists must make a political concession. As you know the Egyptians act as gatekeepers for the occupation. This is a titular Egyptian initiative but other hands are at work. Hamas et al do not trust the Egyptians for they have proven to be agents of the Americans. the Saudis and the Zionists. They keep the Rafah crossing closed much of the time as they collaborate with the stinking Zionists. Hamas would then require actions that would amount to the end of the occupation. Meaning the permanent opening of Rafah, the end of the naval blockade etc. They will not want to surrender to a continuing occupation. And they are right.


  40. Yeah, so true, the Rothschilds in cahoots with the British government robbed the poor Palestinians of that land over 60-70 years ago, next thing we hear the jews braying how god gave them the land, total lies since the British wanted the jews who were rescued from Germany out of England in the worst way before they started their parasitic drama, all of Europe wanted them gone…….then of course, England had a change of heart and wanted to deport the jews on Palestinian lands back to England, but they were not having any of that shit, time to steal more land and call in all the other jews in Europe to wreak havoc on the Palestinian people……hence we have that scrooge on the earth stealing and murdering in the name of THEIR thieving and murdering god.

    open your eyes and you will see the Divine, all the lies that were told will evaporate.

  41. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Well Well | July 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM |

    Jeez GP……is that the only way we can get you on BU…lol

    I tend to stick to what I know, and what I have studied.

    I respect that most folk dont like the Bible or that they have not studied the Bible and dont understand Eschatology, but in such a case they should shut up and observe……….just like how I quietly observe all the BS spewed on BU daily about things that we cant do anything about except TALK! lol


  42. @ Georgie Porgie

    Every bible should be burnt. This world cannot be cured unless this is THE condition precedent.


  43. @GP

    Just saying many of the actors are not following any biblical roadmap, the middle players, the negotiators, US, Russia, UN etc. This is why the ME problem will never be solved until…


  44. Israel the state will be blown off the map before the rightful Jews resettle the land.

  45. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    YOu got that RIGHT David.the ME problem will never be solved until…the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST

    It says in Galatians 3:1616 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

    YOU SEE IT IS TO SEED not to SEEDS

    Thats real sweet David! sweet sweet sweet

  46. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    SuckaBubby | July 15, 2014 at 1:51 PM |

    Israel the state will be blown off the map before the rightful Jews resettle the land.

    lol keep waiting for it to happen sIR and suck lots of bubbies as you wait cause it aint going to happen sir


  47. “lol keep waiting for it to happen sIR and suck lots of bubbies as you wait cause it aint going to happen sir”

    Your belief in the Bible will tell you this.Condemns the current inhabitants of the land right now are not the rightful inheritors, neither Israeli or Palestinian.

    Digressing, I wont mind on the suggestion.Rain falling hard and its “wedduh fuh ledduh”


  48. *as not being the rightful inheritors.

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