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It is generally recognized that the majority of the Caribbean Financial System is dominated by Large Canadian Banks. As the financial economy of the Caribbean slips every deeper into recession and the banking loses keep piling up what will be the reaction of the major Canadian Banks. They basically have three (3) choices: 1) stay in the Caribbean and make adjustments to ride out the LOSES, 2) Sell their Caribbean assets, 3) Write off their Caribbean Loses and abandon the market totally.

In all three scenarios the Caribbean Financial System is in for a rough ride or total collapse.

A recent news article outlined the situation form CIBC’s point of view…. Canadian banks get burned in the Caribbean.

A cloudy economic outlook for the Caribbean took some of the shine off Canadian bank earnings this quarter.

By: Madhavi Acharya-Tom Yew Business Reporter, The Toronto Star, Published on Thu May 29 2014

A cloudy economic outlook for the Caribbean took some of the shine off Canadian bank earnings this quarter.

Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce blamed losses on its CIBC First Caribbean subsidiary for a sharp decline in its net income, while Scotiabank set aside more money for soured loans.

The latest quarterly results show that while the banks’ operations in this region are much smaller than their Canadian personal and business banking and wealth management segments, they can affect the bottom line.

“I don’t think we as analysts realized how much it had an impact to the overall company until CIBC came out with its big charge,” said Dan Werner, equity analyst at Morningstar.

CIBC reported profit for the second-quarter of $306 million, or 73 cents per share, compared to profit of $862 million or $2.09 per share in the year-earlier period.

Its net income still came in ahead of Bay Street expectations on an adjusted basis, and the bank announced a hike in its dividend on Thursday.

CIBC first said in mid-May that it would take a $420 million non-cash goodwill impairment charge related to its Caribbean operation. The bank also said it recorded $123 million in incremental loan losses for the unit because of difficulties in the region’s economic recovery.

Executives said on a conference call on Thursday that the bank is still committed to the region.

“The business has historically been a good investment for us,” chief operating officer Richard Nesbitt told analysts, adding that he believes the division can return to its past profitability levels.

“What you’re seeing here is we continue to believe we can get there. Unfortunately, it’s going to take us longer because the economic environment has not started to improve like we felt it would.”

In its latest report on the Caribbean, the International Monetary Fund warned that “economic activity in Latin America and the Caribbean is expected to stay in low gear in 2014.”

Lower commodity prices will likely offset the effects of higher demand from a recovering U.S. economy, the IMF said in its April, 2014 report.

The region is expected to grow at 2.5 per cent in 2014, down from 2.75 per cent in 2013. A modest pickup to 3 per cent is expected for 2015.

“For the region at large, the outlook remains clouded by downside risk, including renewed bouts of financial market volatility and a sharper-than-expected decline in commodity prices,” the IMF said.

Commodities such as oil, bananas, and sugar, as well as financial services and tourism are the driving forces in the diverse economies in this region, which includes Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, Haiti, Dominican Republic, The Bahamas, and Barbados.

Though it is prone to cyclones, floods, and other natural disasters, robust GDP growth in previous years, a young population and rising middle class have drawn international investments, including that from Canadian banks.

“The economies down there were growing pretty well,” Werner said. “At the end of the day, you can’t fault the banks for wanting to enter new markets and gain new customers. It’s part of growing a business.”

However, tourism, in particular, has suffered in the wake of both the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks in the U.S. and the 2008 financial crisis.

“It seems the economic recovery in the region has been slow to materialize and the results are coming in worse than expectations,” said Tom Lewandowski, analyst at brokerage Edward Jones.

Scotiabank posted a $168 million increase in provisions for bad loans in its international banking segment. It cited the impact of acquisitions and lower commercial recoveries in Peru.

Its gross impaired loans for the second quarter increased by $267 million in its international banking segment due to large increases in Latin America.

In January, Royal Bank of Canada announced plans to sell its Jamaican banking operations to financial firm Sagicor Group Jamaica Ltd. The purchase price was not disclosed.

At the time, Royal Bank noted that it has operated in Caribbean for over 100 years and said it remained committed to the region, but said it would focus on areas where it has a bigger market share.

The World Bank has a sunnier view of the prospects for the Caribbean and Latin America, forecasting growth of 2.9 per cent this year, accelerating to 3.7 per cent in 2016.

“For the first time ever, the number of people belonging to the middle class now surpass the number of poor, a sign that Latin America and the Caribbean is progressing toward a middle-class region,” the World Bank said in a report.

Still, these segments account for a “a mini-proportion” of the overall business, Lewandowski said.

“I think what happens in their domestic banking, wealth management or capital markets segments is going to be more important to me than what’s happening down there,” he said.

“I’m not going to get overly concerned or overly optimistic based on what’s happening in the Caribbean.”


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34 responses to “Is the Caribbean Canadian Dominated Financial System Headed for COLLAPSE ?”


  1. IF the Canadian banks who have held a reputation as being strong start to pull out of the Caribbean, it would be seen as a body blow read lack of confidence in the region to rebound.


  2. Well, we are in no position to comment on the main points in the above article, but what we must say is this: that the fourteen (14) fundamental principles that the PDC has so far evolved concerning MONEY and its uses in Barbados do give a great insight into why the core financial system in Barbados is seriously more and more helping to pull down itself and the country as well.

    PDC


  3. David Canadian banks are not likely to walk away from the most voracious consumers on the planet.

    They can restructure and continue the 100 years of “service?”.


  4. A large amount of Canadian banking activity in Barbados centers around the favourable tax treatment that IBC’s receive in Canada. That is under great scrutiny and may not survive. Canadian banks will do whatever is best for their shareholders. If they need to make adjustments they will.

  5. Due Diligence Avatar

    Canadian bank’s response to the cloudy economic outlook for the Caribbean will be characterized in a word now familiar to Barbadians “RETRENCHMENT”

  6. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    Plenty of fraud and the Banks are to blame with the lawyers and Ministers,
    All the crooks were dealing in land and over building and now the PAIN,
    They help to take over Beatrice Henry Bank accounts with fraud papers worked by the lawyers, Took all of what was not to belong to them ,
    Crooks making deal and now you see the roots of the fraud,
    Made up money to suck the Caribbean dry now acting like they are crying or broke, A new way of doing fraud and they start over under words of recovery, Still Fraud , Let them all go out of business , so we can get back to living the Life in the Sun , Good for all the crooks in this mess , Fraud deeds and fraud money , Just a Big game to them , Roll the dice move your mice , one big rat trap, More Fraud to come


  7. Just remember what jp getty said …if you owe the bank 100 dollars that’s your problem ,…..if you owe a 100 million that is the banks problem

  8. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    Fixing Gold Prices , boy did Gold drop in price
    Barclay’s Bank Fraud,
    Also played a part in Barbados with the Accounts of Beatrice Henry
    Sir Richard Chelthenham Lawyer ,Liar, crook and Scumbag of Barbados

    http://gata.org/node/13657


  9. @ Hants

    “most voracious consumers”

    I agree with the above, however voracious consumers who are causing the banks LOSSES are a real issue for the banks investors. The Caribbean portfolio of these banks is a small percentage of their operations, however these losses (CIBC almost half a billion to date) are not insignificant to the bottom line.

    Numerous articles recently suggest that the Canadian banks would not have a significant issue from writing off their Caribbean operations. This suggestion would have serious impacts on the Caribbeans viability. Writing off the Caribbean operations would be a loss for the banks, the question is just how much of a loss would it really be. The Caribbean, as a whole, should be really concerned with this issue as it will no doubt cause investors to look carefully at investments in the region which may further DE-stabilize the already fragile economic situation. Continued negative reports like this banking press, means that financial corporations/companies/investors outside the Caribbean are in fact aware of the sad shape the Caribbean is in and will impact the Caribbeans viability.

    The world is changing, unfortunately the Caribbean is not changing in step with world economics.

  10. Due Diligence Avatar

    Wyly

    Very well said.

    I do not believe that any of the Canadian banks are likely to write off their Caribbean operations, but there can be little doubt that they will retrench their operations, ie cut back on their loans to “the most voracious consumers on the planet.”

    That said, RBC did recently sell its Jamaica operations to Sagicor. See

    http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/business/Sagicor-buying-RBC-Jamaica_15900884

    CBC Canada said “Although RBC didn’t release details of the transaction with Sagicor, it announced it will book an estimated $60-million writedown related to its 2008 acquisition of one of the subsidiaries, RBTT Securities Jamaica.”

    Good luck to the Sagicor shareholders

    You are spot on with:

    “The Caribbean, as a whole, should be really concerned with this issue as it will no doubt cause investors to look carefully at investments in the region which may further DE-stabilize the already fragile economic situation. Continued negative reports like this banking press, means that financial corporations/companies/investors outside the Caribbean are in fact aware of the sad shape the Caribbean is in and will impact the Caribbeans viability.”
    Minister of Housing Denis Kellman is reported to have recently said investors were “now tumbling over each other for every project that we got in Barbados”.

    Sad to say, more likely, potential investors from outside the Caribbean will be rushing for the doors and heading for safer domiciles for their capital.

  11. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    A lot about nothing , Persons and people with Billions can not win every time they put money on the table after sucking the Life out of the Natives,

    They can make 100 Million one year and the next year make 75 million and then report they lost 25 million , still up over the 2 years period a gain of 175 million dollars.
    So in the mean time you have been working for 200 dollars a week for the last 20 years,
    Banks , can play PONZI with crook lawyers and the Ministers of the new DBLP party as they took a pay hike 9% before elections? So
    Crooks liars and Scumbags, coverup

    When you have to wait for a white man or woman to tell your black asses you mess up before you admit it to your own People ,, you know you suck.
    Minister of Barbados DBLP government need to to go TnT and work , they will fit right in ,curfew 6pm to 6am , duck they shooting lawyers


  12. Many people in Barbados need to wake up to many fundamental realities.

    One such reality is that there is no such thing as PROFIT (LOSS).

    Nobody no enterprise no business makes PROFIT (LOSS) any where including Barbados.

    These are bogus unscientific ideas.

    There is NO CONCEIVABLE WAY POSSIBLE in which PROFITS (LOSSES) can be derived from the mere use of money by the relevant individuals, businesses and other entities in this country.

    None what so ever.

    Therefore the notion that banks are making PROFITS is absurd and illogical.

    PDC


  13. Lawson.glad to know you realize how the banks are supposed to operate, most people just don’t know and pay and pay and pay and…….lol


  14. http://business.financialpost.com/2014/01/29/royal-bank-of-canada-agrees-to-sell-jamaican-business-at-loss/

    Excluding Trinidad, economies in the Caribbean are not smooth sailing and so neither are the banks. Writer, John Greenwood (Financial Post) says the Caribbean is [now] not so sunny for Canadian Banks. Funny, Lawrence Dupree, former chairman (CLICO) blames the recession for the CLICO collapse not the genuine truth – rampart embezzlement (fraud). The worldwide recession has come and gone, but numerous counties have not fully recovered or not recovered at all, many of them are Caribbean counties. So, banks in these countries are stressed or crying the blues.


  15. [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fk2prKnYnI&w=560&h=315%5D

    The thrill is gone, probably for good.

  16. Due Diligence Avatar

    LOOK

    You may find this December 13, 2013, article “Canadian banks’ Caribbean mystery: Little known about how giants make money in paradise” of interest.

    http://business.financialpost.com/2013/12/13/canadian-banks-caribbean-mystery-little-known-about-how-giants-make-money-in-paradis/

    RBC has already started to retrench, by selling its Jamaica operations.

    If CIBC and Scotiabank decide to do likewise, it will spell big trouble for Caribbean.

    Sagicor can’t buy them all.


  17. @DD

    What it does is give the opportunity for the home grown financial institutions like Republic Bank out of Trinidad, National Commercial Bank, Jamaica and a few others to step up.

    On 31 May 2014 23:24, Barbados Underground wrote:

    >

  18. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    David | May 31, 2014 at 7:27 PM | @ set up where DAVID? Not here in Fraud Land Barbados to take Jackass licks?
    These same Banks not far from the Fraud them selves . None have uncleaned hands, They to use the Offshore accounts that the Mia , Owen , Sinkman and Fumble offshore accounts ? To reinvest by way of Laundering? better think twice, Like you lost you way or what?
    Like you seem to forget , dealing with crook liars and scumbags, the DBLP government that need to be in Jail.

  19. Due Diligence Avatar

    David

    The home grown financial institutions like Republic Bank out of Trinidad, National Commercial Bank, Jamaica should proceed with caution.

    If Canadian banks are retrench from financing the most voracious consumers on the planet, there is a reason .

    And there must be a reason why NCB, Jamaica, allowed the RBC Jamaica business to go to Sagicor.


  20. @DD

    Don’ t be so sure of the reason, it might have been a market concentration issue.


  21. The foreign owned banks in the Caribbean are not concerned with development. At a time like this when they should be showing some level of confidence in Caribbean economies they are walking away. But they always leave a foot hold to regain a footing when things look better later. My concern is with the hand to mouth politicians in the Caribbean who allow these entities to behave in this whorish manner!! But this is the time for the Credit Union Movement to behave as they were intended, and stop pretending to be banking institutions!!


  22. @ Due Diligence

    According to journalist, James Henry for Forbes Magazine, Barbados is on its knees. The situation in Barbados, surely you must know is not too much better than that on Jamaica island. It, Barbados is also struggling with a ballooning debt. So Barbados’ shoes like Jamaica does not shine.

  23. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    LOOK | June 1, 2014 at 4:13 PM | @

    The people dont want to hear truth
    they just want to long talk
    Until a white person not from Barbados put the real hidden truth in the papers, ABC news, CNN, or the BBC, they will keep their brown nose to the ass of the DBLP and play the game and act like they dont know what happen nor went wrong
    When the head of the CB of Barbados tell them the Truth of MIA and Owen Ponzi Land fraud with UDC and VAT they go after him
    When the Audit General let them know money missing in the Billions in VAT
    went to the Ministers Pockets and then up the VAT to 17.5% to give the trash man a pay hike,
    Tony Best crook liar and scumbag liar and all the Ministers can take me to court, Let us, and Me At Violet Beckles PLANTATION DEEDS KNOW.
    They need to be taken down the Main street naked so we can see what else they are hiding,
    We know first hand they are worse then Madoff and Standford,

    BARBADOS WAKE UP AND STOP BEING STUPID , STARVE OUT THE LAWYERS , REMOVE THE MINISTERS, YOU WILL GET ANOTHER CHANCE .next time you Vote,, Lets see if you all learn from you mistakes ,

  24. Due Diligence Avatar

    See

    Barbados Faces Debt Crisis as an Offshore Tax Haven

  25. Due Diligence Avatar

    Not exactly the kind of stuff that instills investors with confidence


  26. @ Due Diligence
    ….but our basic problem is not related to lack of investments per se…. In fact, we have to be among world leaders in that regard on a per square mile basis….
    Our fundamental problem lie in an inbred national idiocy that has led to the dilution of countless opportunities for success……and which, unless addressed, WILL lead to similar shiite results from any new investments – however well intentioned….

    One CANNOT make a fool successful via high levels of investments… A brass bowl and ANY AMOUNT of money are soon parted….

    Unless we address the “national productivity inefficiencies” indemic in our systems, there is NO HOPE for us….


  27. Bushie as man, yhe problem is that Bajans cannot envison life without foreign investment,foreign goods in short foreign everything.

    Canada was one of little Barbados best buddies since we were selling rum and buying salt fish. They lovingly gave us three Canadian Commercial Banks and made a tax deal to allow Canadian rich people to “save on their taxes”.

    Life was great. Now the Harper Government come an done play to spite a former Liberal government and our brass is grass.

    All of us have to learn that we cannot depend on smooth sailing because even our friends will stick a hole in our boat and watch e
    we sink.


  28. an Bushie duh using nuff new fangle terminology like ” changed business matrix” and this cute little phrase ” the data shows”.

    A lotta long talk just to say “all that matters is profits and making our shareholders richer.


  29. @ Hants
    The problem with black people stems from an incident that was recorded in the bible, but which has not been fully understood (until now that Bushie has decided to spill the beans… 🙂 )

    There was a time when the children of Israel were grumbling and complaining about how hard things were and how much food they had back under slavery…

    …you could picture people like ac and Islandgal grumbling, cussing and complaining all day long?….even BBE would get fed up….so…
    God caused manna and meat to fall from the sky to feed them…

    …you don’t know that since that time, black people keep looking for manna – as if it is some damn right that is due to us….?

    Why the hell should we have to work, be creative, productive and efficient when we can just wait for the manna from heaven…..?
    Or from the Canadians, Trickidadians and whoever….?

    BB mentality……

    It is not the Canadian banks that will collapse, it is our dependency syndrome that will crash into harsh reality….

  30. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Buisness as usual on BU today.
    every man jack back out on parade!
    even the —————— & the ————————
    Ah lie?

  31. GEORGIE PORGIE Avatar
    GEORGIE PORGIE

    Bushie
    You are off with your sunday school lesson bout manna.
    That story you quote is one that WICKum would tell you that the missionaries told when they came to the Carribbean to try to save the souls of the savages. (c.f yesterdays Nation)


  32. Take time to read this. It is always about Profits and dividends and Canadian banks are doing very well except in the Caribbean.

    http://business.financialpost.com/2014/06/02/forget-everything-you-knew-about-investing-in-canadian-banks-its-no-longer-relevant/

  33. Due Diligence Avatar

    Hants

    Of course it is about profits and dividends.

    My (private) pension (and likely yours). and CPP are invested in Canadian banks stocks;so.profits and dividends are good things..

    No profits and no dividends = no pension.

    I need those pensions to pay the bills


  34. @ Due Diligence, I have no private pension plan and I am a Canadian citizen so it is good that CPP invests in bank stocks.

    AS a Bajan I am still concerned that after exploiting Barbados for a few decades our ” best buddies” appear willing to throw us under the bus.

    Sadly there are at least 75% of Bajans who will suffer the most if the economy does not improve.

    I have close friends and family in that 75%.

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