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Danny Gill - NUPW member
Danny Gill – NUPW member

With regard to the recently retrenched workers at the NCC, a meeting for National Council of the NUPW was called. The General Secretary, Dennis Clarke, spoke to issues emanating from that retrenchment. These included, as he indicated: a breach of a Cabinet Policy of โ€œlast in first outโ€; breaches of the Employment Rights Act; an unwillingness by the NCC to sit and discuss the situation; beach of the CTUSAB Protocols; breach of an ILO Convention 158; and the appearance that the retrenchment process was biased in the favour of employees who could be viewed as constituents of the Minister with responsibility for the NCC.

What peeked my attention during the meeting was when I was asked by a fellow Councillor if I had received a call alerting me of the meeting. I replied in the negative. When the General Secretary began his list of grievances with the lamentations about people who could continue to attack him on the front page of the Nation Newspaper or on the blog, I realized why I possibly did not receive any calls from the NUPW on my cell or landline to alert me of the meeting.

From what I heard coming from the General Secretary, I had some concern that if the NUPW was not careful, the rights of those retrenched workers at the NCC would not be protected. Having sat down with the Labour Office, the General Secretaryโ€™s next move in the process must be a complaint to the Chief Labour Officer requesting that the Tribunal be set up to resolve the impasse between the NUPW and the NCC. The General Secretary seems to be of the belief that a meeting chaired by the Minister of Labour would have some impact on the impasse, but the Minister of Labour is not the administrator of the ACT; that power resides in the Office of the Chief Labour Officer. The only part of the Act that makes any reference to the Minister is in respect to making regulations.

Furthermore, when the NUPW makes the complaint to begin the process to convene the Tribunal, the Union has to make a case as to why its members have been unfairly dismissed. This is where the General Secretaryโ€™s arguments get very, very weak. His main defense, by what he said, lies in the fact the Cabinet of Barbados has posited the policy of โ€œlast in first outโ€, but what the NUPW has to clearly demonstrate is that this policy applies to Statutory Boards. For the purposes of the Employment Rights Act, Statutory Boards are treated in the same way as the private sector. Furthermore, the Act absolves ministries from its domain.

The NUPW has also to clearly demonstrate its political bias thesis, for many of the employees who went home were from St. Lucy, the constituency of the Ministerโ€™s fellow Cabinet Minister. Emotional outbursts by Wayne Walrond shall not be enough. Furthermore, the Act provides that before workers are dismissed that consultations must be conducted with the workers or their representatives at least six weeks before any one is dismissed. If that process did not occur, that may be the only ground for the NUPW to prevail in a case of unfair dismissal.

The General Secretary seems settled on the point that the retrenched workers were not given the proper paper work at the time of their retrenchment. However, if that is the basis of the Unionโ€™s complaint, those NCC worker shall remain retrenched, for the Act provides for the Tribunal only to order that proper documentation be provided, but in that case, no decision to reinstate would be possible. Obviously what the Union wants is a decision to rehire, but that can only come when the Union makes an appropriate complaint which would logically lead to such a decision. Given the current course, the General Secretary is taking, and if the process is not handled correctly, there is a possibility that even with a strong case, the NCC workers can remain retrenched.

As I sat there, it was clear that apart from the emotional hysteria and collective bargaining wishing and hoping that the General Secretary had not, or could not, make a solid case for strike action to be taken against the NCC or in the wider public service.


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214 responses to “Dennis Clarke, Please Provide the NUPW Membership with a Proper Reason to Strike!”


  1. if govt is going to save money ,commonsense would say that the persons who salaries are the highest would be the ones to cut first most likely the workers with the longest tenure would be most targeted ….unfortunately for govt in this case is that if an agreement says first in last out the govt hands might be tied and the issue might have to be resolved in the courts with govt having to provide sufficient evedience that they measures they are taking are vital to the overall security of the nation…..until then the workers rights take precedent,,,,,, in any event ,,,,i believe the policy which the govt is using boils down to cost savings and nothing to do with B or D although from a yardfowl point of view it would not be farfetched to believe in conspiracy theories that targets BLP workers,,,,,,,

  2. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    DBLP Government dont care about the law , agreements or any thing for that matter, All they care about is money and making money for their own pvt pockets , The pay check alone as a Minister is not enough for greedy crooks.A year has passed and all they are doing is cutting , Remember they gave them self pay hike .
    strike what , love to see if they even know how to strike , they dont want no one to know they were sent home. So they hide in shame for voting for crooks liars and scumbags.


  3. What shall Maloney and Clarke tell the NCC workers after Monday when it is obvious that the NUPW can not force the NCC to do any thing.

    It is quite clear now that if the NUPW goes the way of the Tribunal, it can not win the case. For its magic pill “last in first out” is now gone.

    The political interference thing is bare emotional garbage which carries no weight any where except for the rum shop.

    Clarke and Maloney are marshaling their forces for a strike; when shall this big big strike be? Everything in the article here seems to be on point!!


  4. @Lemuel

    What about the BWU?


  5. David:

    The interesting thing about the BWU is that it was the NUPW kicking up the storm. The BWU man was constantly saying that there was a process and the BWU was following it. I do not believe the BWU shall take strike action.

    I does not even look like Maloney and Clarke could get the majority of NCC workers to strike.


  6. But Lemuel
    …in an environment where Government is LOOKING to get rid of employees ……where (according to the MoF), 3000 already gone home (6000 if Caswell is right)
    …who in their right mind would go on a strike – to call on government to bring back some of the already dismissed workers – and then to SENT HOME some of the same strikers instead…?

    The unions (and workers) need a different level of thinking altogether,and this is clearly beyond them….

  7. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    The NUPW finds itself between a wolf and a cliff. On one hand, NCC was instructed to get rid of 250 persons: they have achieved that. If the union prevails and some workers are reinstated, the NCC would then have to terminate an equal number, some of whom might be union members. Is NUPW, as a union, insisting that some of its member should be fired? If I were a member of a union that got me fired, I’d sue the union.

    This is not a game that NUPW could win

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  8. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Bushie

    I don’t want any foolishness out of you. What the hell do you mean by “if Caswell is right”?

    The approximately 400 sent home from the Drainage Division did not count toward the 3,000 if you believe what Dr. Suckoo said. Also, do you remember when a number of workers were dismissed and the PM claimed that he check his dictionary for the meaning of “temporary”: none of those were counted toward Sinckler’s final 3,000.

    I seem to recall seeing Dr. Suckoo on television saying that Cabinet had approved the last in first out and that she would have to check if it is being breached.

    Suckoo, Mamoney and Maxine cannot all be telling the truth: I tend to believe Suckoo.

    >


  9. Lol @ Caswell
    Wuh “if Caswell was right” we would already have BUP in place – —- and be explaining to Bajans all like now, how we can all rid ourselves of the 60 jackasses currently riding us…along with their minions and fleas…
    When Cas….when?!


  10. Bushie:
    You are correct if the nupw prevails then other workers have to go home. It would be interesting if these workers turn out to be from the BWU!! But regardless of the outcome, the NUPW has lost badly; it membership can not trust its leadership any more, begginning with the General Secreatary


  11. @Lemuel

    Here is what MoF Sinckler was quoted in the T&T press in an address on Wednesday, comment?

    Earlier he had told investors that while the Barbados central government employs about 21,000 the overall public service is about 25,000 strong. “Our goal is to bring the overall public service down to about 20-21,000, which is really where it should be,” he said.

    http://www.guardian.co.tt/business/2014-05-18/barbados-open-labour-talks-tt


  12. Lemuel -I am in NY enjoying myself but still following this blog , I have said that there will be no strike –NUPW should have strike with their subs three years ago -why did mamoney and the Cement man Clarke not keep any noise when NHC sent home workers some with 15 years .
    remember Ma-money and the one footman Clarke defended the Government when Caswell said that they were about to sent home these workers ,lie Sinclair even cuss Franklyn during the election

  13. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    I have been saying all along that the reduction in the size of the public service has more to do with numbers of people employed than about achieving savings. Buffoon Sinckler allowed it to escape from his trap that they are bringing down the service to 20-21,000 “where it should really be”

    Who determined the number? As I said before the IMF dictated how many people should be employed in the public service. The Government is not in control of this country. The IMF dictates what happens here

    >


  14. so the govt keep these public servants for more than five years hoping for a quicker and faster return to financial security to the economy driven by an up swing in the global economy……..now u have one jack ass,, braying that the retrenchment programs is not about saving money,,so why the helll would govt implement such a program to lay off workers if the result would be inconsequential or not beneficial to the financial security of an economy…. i meaning just to count numbers and put people on the street is madness that only a madman can think of,,,,,, but then again they are more mad people walking the streets than they are in jenkins and it seems like some have made there presence known on bu,,, ,,


  15. @Caswell

    What is interesting is that we have not been having this kind of information sharing. The government has a plan for the civil service and as far as BU is aware the plan has not been publicly promoted. Maybe such is the plan.


  16. But Caswell, why the hell did we need more than 21000 public servants in this little country…?
    The question is why did it take the IMF to tell us that it was not good sense to have 25000…..? ..
    ..Wuh shiite….if these employees did 1/2 the work they were supposed to,,we could get very good service from about 15,000…

    …and what is wrong with the IMF recommending a benchmark ratio? Is that not what the Credit Union performance benchmarks that you support are all about..?

    Bushie feels that there should be a MAXIMUM public service employment level allowed – based on the national GDP, and that anyone exceeding their allowed quota should be fined the total employment cost incurred by their action…

    Lotta shiite…


  17. @Bush Tea

    The issue here is the fact BOTH parties have used recruitment in the public service to pad support. The issue here is the lack of transparency being exhibited by the DLP government regarding its plan for the service. The issue here is hoe the NUPW and the BWU have been exposed to be in cahoots with government.


  18. True David
    Also one wonders what the unions do on a day to day basis…..
    Were they not aware of the constituencies of all those NCC workers recruited before and after 2008?
    Are these demographically biased statistics new to the unions?
    …if so….they are even dumber that Bushie thought.
    ..if not…what did they do about it? Did they not see potential problems (like this) in future?

    What was their official stand when politician’s families got preferential treatment OVER other union members?

    It is easy to see the rot at the top….but we have brass bowls all the way through the system….


  19. And the shop stewards.

  20. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    Government did not have a plan for the public service until the IMF made reduction of the workforce a condition before the IMF could assist Barbados. Government was then instructed to reduce the size of the public service by 6,000.

    At first these dimwits in Government misinterpreted the IMF’s instructions and started about requiring ministries and departments to cutback on their spending in order to save jobs. That is why the PM was able to announce, at a branch meeting at Hilda Skeene School, on October 13, 2013 that the jobs were safe because ministries and departments were able to achieve the required savings.

    Government then discovered that whether or not they were savings, the workforce had to be reduced by 6,000. IMF personnel then went to the House of Assembly to make sure that the Minister of Finance announce the cuts before they left the country.

    Bushie

    You complain that 25,000 public servants are too many, what about 18 ministers falling all over themselves?

    >


  21. In relation to the lay-offs at NCC, the Minister of Finance, Sinckler, has been quoted as saying the LIFO method could not be used rigidly….. it is a general principle that cannot be applied in absolutism.


  22. Bush Tea–All the information that you ask for is available to the NUPW ,how ever the statement relating to “What was their official stand when politician’s families got preferential treatment over other members “is a great one .
    what the Government did was first to promote Cedric Murrell .
    2) Move a clerk from carrying Water to be Customer Service Manager at NHC,
    3)Gave a duty free car to NUPW for the use of the General Secretary
    4)Make provisions for CTUSAB (Dennis Depeiza) and NUPW(Walter ma-money Maloney )to go to Geneva,and
    5th but not lease they shall be paying the monthly rent for CTUSAB.
    so bushie it seems that those here in New York do have more information that we who actual lives in Barbados ‘
    Bushie these are just a few of the ways that these union leaders have sold out their souls and the poor workers of this country –The Great Betrayal of the Traitors

  23. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    “absolutism” , did he use that word correctly?


  24. What is funny is that the opposition is now wading into the fight with the wrong gloves on. The people Lowe is keeping on comes from Christ Church the same place Senator Abrams is vying his political might for. Yet, the good Senator is weighing about sending home people from the same place he wants to support him next election. I now agree with Caswell; this group of opposition is piss poor!!

    Maloney and Clarke made mock sport at Mia and would not even let her meet with the National Council; why doesn’t she keep away from their mess?


  25. As you say Eric, the current situation explains a lotta the shiite that we could not explain between the Government and Unions in the past… They hid and brought land but they can’t hide and wuk it….

    The difference between Barbados and even the worst of the worst is that in most OTHER countries, someone would be CHARGED, most would be exposed and there would have been at least the APPEARANCE of some kind of law and justice.
    …..but not bout here….

    BRIBERY is business as usual it seems….

    The union leaders bribe the politicians for personal favors
    The businessmen bribe the politicians
    The politicians bribe international investors
    The politicians bribe voters with iPads and jobs
    The police only checking for Mary J….
    The lawyers bribe everyone
    The Judges adjourn every shiite for 10 years
    The AG ….is yet to say or do anything intelligent..
    The DPP just focused on getting his rent money
    The CJ is a permanent feature at Foundation functions
    The MOF busy coming up with new Four Seasins dates
    …and the PM fast asleep…

    What results can we possibly get other than the dismal ones we see everyday…?

    @ Caswell
    Bushie’s point exactly…. Any Unionist worth shit would have called for a reduction in Ministries, Permanent Secretaries, and in EACH level of the service COMMENSERATE with reductions at the lower level…..bunch of jackasses….
    …and they look the part too…

  26. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    I heard Kerrie Symmonds on the 7:30 news making the point that the process leading to the Employment Rights Tribunal would be long and he was therefore urging that the unions should take protest action. That is a load of crap. What the hell does he know about it? That tribunal has never met so how can he know that the process would be drawn out.

    I have been before other tribunals chaired by Jeff Cumberbatch and Hillary Nelson and at the end of the hearing the chairmen consulted with the other members and gave decision on immediately.

    Kerrie Symmonds should keep to hell out of trade union business: he does not know what he is talking about.


  27. It seems to me that the opposition feels that it should pick aside in this NUPW vs NCC saga, but family fighting what the opposition doing in that!! All them is DLP!!


  28. @Lemuel and Caswell

    The bottomline is if the process used to select workers to go home is tainted by political interference read Minister Lowe, it will be worth it. This is the bigger issue.


  29. David:

    Why I am laughing is that if the BLP was in power, DLP people would have been targeted too. You remember Lionel Craiggs’ famous quote. So the opposition only playing a part. let them come here and tell us why they the BLP had refused to appoint people who according to Owen and them were Dems when the BLP was in power!!


  30. According to the Nation newspaper the Sanitation Authority shall be striking this week in support of the NCC!! Poor Dennis and Ma Money Maloney.


  31. @Lemuel

    What about the BWU? Were they not sitting at the same table?


  32. David:
    As I said earlier, the BWU sat and negotiated like the NUPW and they don’t seem to interested in striking as both unions have the same problem. Members are fed up with the sell out and most probably shall not come out.

    Why you think Dennis trying to start with the Sanitation. He knows that he can tell them any thing and they will follow. This exactly what he does at the elections and his candidate normally wins that box!! But it may back fire these workers may not be as stupid as Clarke thinks. Furthermore, NO ONE HAS GONE home from Sanitation in the retrenchment exercise!!


  33. There is no credibility in a NUPW sponsored strike action if the BWU sits out.


  34. David:

    Trotman just had to look for strike money for the sugar workers; he can not afford to pay the port fellows too.


  35. David:

    It is being confirmed but Dennis Clarke has won. His daughter has been reemployed at the Electoral Department. She only had two years in the service!!


  36. @Lemuel

    If it is ok with everyone carryon smartly.


  37. David:
    People in Barbados are yet to understand the enormous damage that fraternal organizations have done to the social fabric of Barbados. Within their bosoms are some of the most heinous crimes that can only be sorted out by the Almighty!! Dennis is a lodge man. This whole conflict had nothing to do with the workers!!


  38. The Sunday May 18, 2014 edition of the Barbados Advocate carries an article on page 9, written by R. E. Guyson Mayers: “Unions inviting Government to fall on its own sword (2)”, makes interesting reading.

    In his article, Mayers suggested that in the past unions led the workers as opposed to recent times where “the workers largely determine where they want to go and the ‘leaders’ obey.”
    Further in the article, he goes on to state: โ€œ When the very people who elected the current ruling party are sent home, leaving those workers who wish the Government ill in place, what will be the future of the party?โ€
    โ€œA unionโ€™s obligation must be to its members, but how the interest of its members are protected and advanced require wide societal knowledge, understanding the political environment, as well as the economic realities in the country. The first in last out call by the Opposition and unions is obviously designed to force the ruling party to fall on its sword. While some departments have engaged in that folly, a little spine would obviously force the unions to a fight which they can only win if the government does not fight back. Even if the Government were to lose the fight that the unions are forcing it into, the winner may be the Opposition, but not the unions.โ€

    It would interesting be interesting if Caswell Franklyn were to read this article in its entirety and give us his opinion.


  39. Guyson Mayers is an avowed member of the DLP. Remember he fired the Commissioner of Police and the case now in court. If the members were leading the unions, from the time Denis Lowe talked that foolishness about sending home people, there would have been strikes. Guyson Mayers does not know what he is writing about!!


  40. @Lemuel

    Send BU some details about Dennis Clarke’s daughter’s reinstatement if you can.


  41. David:

    I am waiting on confirmation!


  42. well the public servants “rights”vs the right of govt to provide financial security for the country by retrenchment would make an interesting test case in the court system..as it stands now a final resolution seems far fetched as legislation in favour of employees blocks the way.from where i sit with the blp stoking the political fire.the govt has very little chance of compromise outside of seeking wcourt approval as release.which binds govt to am agreement with employees which threatens the financial security of the country


  43. Kerrie Symmonds must be very very careful. For if Kerrie continues to call the names of those people that Denis Lowe is alleged to have working at the departments in his ministry, he and the BLP open up themselves to similar treatment when they want to employ people too. These things have a way of coming back !!!


  44. Caswell whats the last report on the NUPW/BWU and NCC position .
    2)How will that fight be affected now that you have taken the NHC worker case to a higher and rightful position

  45. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    I read in the Barbados Today that the General Manager, Keith Neblett, reported sick so the meeting did not come off. It appeared that instead there was a meeting of the mutual admiration society which lasted for an hour.

    Mamoney was clearly upset because no one informed NUPW that Neblett was sick prior to the meeting. On the other hand, the BWU spokesman declared that they were informed during the day.

    I will not comment on the nastiness that NUPW and BWU did to the workers at NHC while discussions with the Chief Labour Officer are ongoing.

    >


  46. As one person stated on Facebook last night this matter is playing out like a bad kung Fu bad actors and all.


  47. David:
    If what Caswell said is true, it means that the NUPW does not have the members at the NCC to be recognized as the representative union. I always wondered why the Minister and the Chief Labor Officer met with the NUPW and the BWU SEPARATELY!!

    The BWU has already accused the NUPW of attempting to poach its members in this dispute. I believe that the BWU really has to watch its back, especially with Ma Money and Clarke!!

    Could you believe that the manager of the NCC sick but Ma MOney and Clarke talking about disrespect!!

    As I have said constantly the NUPW shall suffer badly from this episode. The BWU is the only union trying to follow the process!!


  48. Eric:
    It means that the people who Caswell is representing shall get either rehired or paid fairly what is due to them. However, the 3 months according to the law have run out for the NUPW members and they shall remain fired with all the attendant disadvantages. BECAUSE DENNIS DID TAKE THE MATTER TO THE TRIBUNAL!!

  49. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926 TO 2014 , MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS OF BARBADOS, BLPand DLP=Massive Fruad

    David | May 23, 2014 at 7:10 AM |

    As one person stated on Facebook last night this matter is playing out like a bad kung Fu bad actors and all.@

    Yes David,, there is a lot of ” Fu” going on,


  50. @Lemuel

    Does Neblett have a deputy? The show must go on at a critical time.

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