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According to an article in the Jamaica Observer, the Barbados Government is the only one in the Caribbean to have asked Facebook for information on its Bajan users. Apparently the Government has made three requests for information in the last six months. It’s not a high number of requests but why are we the only ones to be making them?

The original of the article can be found here: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/latestnews/Barbados-govt-asks-Facebook-for-info-on-users–data and the Facebook report is here https://www.facebook.com/about/government_requests. Interestingly, Facebook denied information in all 3 cases.

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184 responses to “Barbados Government Begged Facebook to REVEAL Three Users”

  1. Tell me Why Avatar
    Tell me Why

    David and others.
    I have a fundamental problem with the issuance of Blackberry phones apps containing sensitive information pertaining to individuals. Think about these security risks.
    1: You can log into Insurance database.
    2: You can log into Road tax database
    3: You can log into Drivers license database.
    4: Your ID is connected to the database.
    Minister of Transport quoted at the launch of with personnel of Blackberry/Digicel, Police and Transport officials that “……It can display information on the driver such as a picture and their national registration number, among “more information’.
    Regardless of the consultant of Blackberry trying to justify the encryption of the application and the general public unable to access, I have a problem. Who say that the individuals who have been assigned with these security risks (Phones) don’t manipulate and delve into people information. Remember, you can put in someone’s registration number and bingo…..all your transaction shows up. From your bankers, your credit cards, your hire purchase information, your employment information like NIS, Inland Revenue, your home ownership information, your legal information and more. Way back in the nineties when people came to your house with census papers, I had a sneaky feeling that all these information were being placed in a database to cut our backsides in the future. Well the future is here….only thing is missing is the connection to Facebook and all social media and the identity of Blogs. Probably Snowden was warning us that no person on this earth is protected by privacy. BTW, how much money was invested in this deal and where is the transparency. Opps!. The triangle of foes Digicel, Blackberry and the Ministry of Transport ensure transparency of individuals are opened to scrutiny.

  2. David Avatar
    David

    @Tell Me Why

    Why not document your concerns and file with the FTC or public counsel?

  3. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Cuthbert of England | August 29, 2013 at 10:30 PM |
    “but tell us Millertheannuaki, did you cry on that fateful day in February when all your dreams were shattered with another 60 month term?”

    Why should my dreams be shattered? And miss out on the action taking place right now? Don’t you think my dreams are being fulfilled as I witness you guys stew in your own “No layoffs, No privatization” juices?
    My role is to stoke fire and turn up the gas under your rass. The DLP has been returned to office by hook or crook for three reasons:

    The first is to pay for your lies and hypocrisy.

    The second is to carry the burden and shame of removing all the social entitlements you have made the Bajan voters believe are their rights and to be in office when the real ‘imposed’ restructuring of the economy will take place. A restructuring which you blame the BLP for not doing but deceitfully perpetuated for the last 5 years.

    Thirdly, you actions in the coming 2 years would be so socially and morally dislocating and discomforting that you would be the one sowing the seeds of your own destruction as a political party.

    The majority of young voters would not trust you anymore for long, long time to come possible leading to the disbanding of the DLP as a party in opposition. Instead of 14 years in the wilderness (1994-2013) it could be indefinite.

    Believe what the miller says, my friend. No one will ever trust the DLP again.

    You tried and we would give you a passing grade. Although Robbie Burns would not be too impressed. Should we then call you Cuthbert of Melrose ensconced in the Abbey of lies and propaganda in George St.?
    But before we refer to you as “Bull(y)ing Cuffy of Northern England” can we draw a little bit of advice on decency to your attention? One of the basic traits of a person of sound and genuine intellect is to never use other people’s work without acknowledgment of its authorship. Walter K would be most upset.

    PS: could you please do us a favour and use just a single moniker Simple Cuthbertson would be fine. And leave the miller alone, we are not equals.

  4. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Appears that some are still reveling in a bought ‘victory’ while the island burns instead of doing the taxpayer’s work. If i was not witnessing this charade myself i would not believe people’s heads could be actually that hard…. i guess they will have to learn in their own way, pity it’s all at the expense of the taxpayers.

  5. pieceuhderockyeahright!!! Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright!!!

    @ The Anunnaki

    THe DLP, post these piss poor performances will easily see 20 years in the wilderness.

    Which is all the more a shame, for we, in BIm, have always prided ourselves on having an ALTERNATIVE party in the waiting area.

    Just in case the megalomania on the one side becomes unbearable AS IT ALWAYS DOES

  6. pieceuhderockyeahright!!! Avatar
    pieceuhderockyeahright!!!

    @ Tell Me Why

    Why should you have a problem with the Police App?

    Only certain offices will be issued the application and, should they (i) lose (ii) sell said phone or (iii) have it “stolen, the app is protected by passwords and the phone can be easily “deactivated”

    I again ask why do you have a problem with an app that is to simplify the horror MTW inflicts on the travelling public every year around May when they send out 50 dragnet officers to harrass drivers and make us line up in long lines as they call back to MTW HQ on a cell phone to do what a mobile app could do?

    Why are you concerned with a police app that is not doing what Magna Card in conjunction with ** the Credit agency, is poised to do?

    How will FTC or the Office of the Public Counsel seek to investigate what is ostensibly a loyalty card performing the same Big Brother is Watching you activities?

    “And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.”

    It is already here and your protestations are futile

  7. Rank&File Avatar
    Rank&File

    I want to say to members of the general public not to have any fear in peaceful protests. The police are no one’s thugs and will not be used by any sitting Gov’t in B’dos to oppress its people.

    I want to say to my fellow officers, no one can order you to break up a peaceful protest consisting of thousands of people. As it would be extremely unsafe to do so given the size of our security forces, your safety is first, and no court could find against you.

    Heed no orders from no one to do anything to oppress the airing of grievances of the people.

    To my fellow officers remember that you are servants of the people, public servants, not Government servants. No minister and no Government commands the Police. We will be guided by the law, circumstances and our conscience.

    If you are a police officer and you are reading this, if you are a friend of a police officer, copy this message into your social media and pass it on. Let all persons, police or otherwise see it and understand it.

    Do not be bullied by senior officers, if you know an order to be morally and ethically wrong, take the necessary action. Suddenly you do not feel well.

    To the Army I say this, you have no civil authority apart from emergency powers during a declared state of emergency. Do not allow anyone to use you to oppress peaceful protests and demonstrations.

    Remember when the time comes that the decisions you make and the actions you take on that day will be recorded and remembered, do not be remembered as an officer who oppressed your own people.

    Back to the police, all our extra pay whether over time or day off work has been cut. You and only you can make the decision whether to go beyond your time. Unless the Commissioner of Police has stopped leave, no one can force you to work beyond your hours or on your day off. Do not be threatened do not be intimidated. But do not leave people who need your urgent help stranded.

    @ tell me why, having someone’s ID number does not give them access to your bank accounts or credit cards, stop being stupid and pay your insurance and road tax.

  8. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Rank and File is sending a very serious and ethical message, please listen.

  9. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Rank and file

    I can now understand why you are rank and file, you seem to have little intelligence and common sense.

  10. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Piece

    You are making no sense at all.

    First of all you will not be around in twenty years time.

  11. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Carson……….the police are not stupid stop trying to insult their intelligence, stupid is cutting their salaries and income and still expect them to crack heads and shoot some people, that is stupid.

  12. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    We are still waiting for the DLP government, their hangerson and yardfowls like you as well as the opposition to also cut their own salaries and show they mean business about the economy.

  13. Tell me Why Avatar
    Tell me Why

    @ pieceuhderockyeahright!!! | August 30, 2013 at 10:27 AM
    First of all, this is not a police app. Secondly, I have been stopped numerous times including three times in one day. I ain’t have a problem with the checking by Police or Ministry officials.

    @ Rank&File | August 30, 2013 at 10:57 AM
    You are missing my point. I am speaking about the said officers who have been assigned these tools.
    Computers and phones are the two most dangerous pieces of communication that can be manipulated once in the wrong hands. Remember you key in information into a data base, the computer will then arrange with your input who will be able to access that information. Hackers enjoy breaking codes and passwords. It seems that you are of the belief that a computer can make a decision without an input, probably you are listening to the PM about the computer going berserk. Secondly, all of our cars are insured and licensed and I don’t have to hide. Come again, hopefully with substance.

  14. JUST ASKING Avatar
    JUST ASKING

    of the DLP as a party in opposition. Instead of 14 years in the wilderness (1994-2013) it could be indefinite.

    Believe what the miller says, my friend. No one will ever trust the DLP again.
    ——————————-
    I thought so after the debacle in the 1991-94 period. The DLP only spent 14 years in the wilderness . I had given them 30 years in the wilderness but Bajans are Cunts. I have said that already-C-U -N-T-S .that’s what they are and I aint apologizing for that.

    People are desperate; this Government has filled the atmosphere with an air of despair. I blame the DLP Government for what happened to that poor 18 year old girl today. You think if she was living in a happy Barbados, she would do that to herself? The girl lost all hope because of this stinking Government–the worst anywhere in the known world.

    John Boyce is Liar when he says that 24 million dollar cut will have no impact on healthcare. Was this 24 million being wasted on paper that you can do without. ? All of this nonsense impact young minds, make the world feel like a place that is not worth it.

    Trust me it has a psychological effect on people and people react. Some react different from others and blame themselves and commit the ultimate sacrifice. It happens

  15. balance Avatar
    balance

    I want to say to members of the general public not to have any fear in peaceful protests.

    what begins as a peaceful protest MR RANK AND FILE can become violent if people without basic understanding are a part of the protest and which would of necessity require the involvement of our protective services to maintain law and order and protect those with basic understanding who are protesting peacefully.

    Rank and File is sending a very serious and ethical message, please listen.

    yes the rank and file message does seem serious and mischievous too but I see nothing ethical in a message which suggests a subtle call for civil disobedience.

    there is no doubt that the Government is struggling to make ends meet because of their own incompetence and have not benefitted from the best of advice by party members like Mr Delisle Worrell and Sir Frank Alleyne who ought to know better but seek rather in the short run to preserve their lofty positions at the expense of their own credibility.

    what confidence can we have in these principal advisers whose morning words like those of the Minister of Finance are different from their evening words.

    How can we have confidence in a Governor of our Central bank who tells us just before the election that the economy is stable and the medium term strategy is working and nothing more can be done and now after the elections can unashamedly without censure tell us that the economy is 400 million in the red.

  16. Aequitas Et Veritas Avatar
    Aequitas Et Veritas

    Everyone knows Red Advertising was FireFreundel, you should visit Bajan Reporter, Ian Bourne lists his suspects which include Jevan Jutagir (even if Bourne does not say Jutagir’s name for staying within Bee Brotherhood)

  17. Aequitas Et Veritas Avatar
    Aequitas Et Veritas

    http://bit.ly/12Y31mO “Another prime suspect is FireFreundel, their campaign was almost like advertising and I am sure made the DEM’s see red which probably suited them just fine, LOL! Their videos with animation were worthy of any US cartoonist but are now removed – along with the Youtube channel and Facebook page…”

  18. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Well Well “cutting police income and still expect them to crack heads and shoot some people [for you] is stupid.”

    True, true. If you want the police to act as your hired killers to wit “crack some heads and shoot some people” then you have to pay them well to do so.

    Because after all unlawful killings tend to haunt the killers, and some will end up suffering from PTSD (used to the called shell shock) and will need the money to pay their psychiatrists.

  19. Cuthbert of England Avatar
    Cuthbert of England

    The DLP members of the Paliamentary Group will eventually remove the PM. It’s inevitable.

  20. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Jus hope that thy don’t make Mr. Crackhead the Minister of Defense. That would be real scary.

    Imagine he talking ’bout cracking heads and shooting people, when he has nursed on the people’s tax bubbie for his whole life.

  21. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Cuthbert of England | August 31, 2013 at 6:13 PM |
    “The DLP members of the Paliamentary Group will eventually remove the PM. It’s inevitable.”

    That is a surprisingly strong and refreshingly honest statement coming from you Cuthbert of Scotland. We are impressed. Keep it up.

    The question to you though, is who would replace him. Let us dismiss Stinkliar out of hand. Then who would it be? Certainly not another incompetent like Sealy or jackass Kellman? That leaves us with a duel between two boys from the East either Pornville or our man Estwick the silenced and toothless pit bull.

    It will not happen, Cuthbert. Fumble will go to the GG and exercise his Constitutional power like Sandie rather than to be mortally stabbed in the back politically by another Eager 10.

  22. checkit-out Avatar
    checkit-out

    MillertheAnnunaki;
    You are probably right. But isn’t it possible that the stresses and strains engendered by the current situation that is likely to progressively deteriorate, might produce an aha moment in Freundel, Chris and some other DLP MPs that makes them recognize that it is not in their or the Country’s long term interests to have Freundel leading them at this time?

    If Cuthbert of England and Hamilton Hill and others have seen the light might it not be possible for other DLP stalwarts (who have apparently stopped posting) to have also done so and have the acumen to set in train another scenario that does not paint the DLP in such poor light? And could such a scenario result in FS being forced to abdicate? His colleagues must know a lot more about him than we do and such knowledge might include a fulcrum that could convince him to willingly remove himself from the Leadership position when the stark reality hits him that he is now actually punishing his beloved Country and his place in history will be mud if he remains.

    We need to recognize that we are really in a unique situation for Barbados at this time and such a situation might throw up new solutions that bear little resemblance to older scenarios. MIght they not eschew a Sandiford denouement but opt for another solution which could see them with a chance of still retaining their knife edge balance of power?.

    A new election will suit neither the Country, them nor the BLP.

  23. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Without doubt this DLP Administration is the worst Government that this country has ever seen, and I believe, with the possible exception of Sinckler, that none of them are so daft as to believe that they are doing a good job. But they will do everything possible to hold on to power despite their ineptness in order to qualify for a parliamentary. Those who were elected for the first time in 2008 would qualify for their pensions in 2016. If there is any movement against Freundel by that group it will only come after they have secured their pensions. Remember Sandie collapsed his Government two weeks before seven of his colleagues qualified for their pensions.

    The only way that this Government would self-destructis if those who were elected for the first time in 2003 attempt to bring Freundel down. They have already qualified in 2011 for pensions of half their salaries in 2011, but knowing them I believe that they would wait until 2015 so that they can qualify for pensions at the rate of two-thirds of their salaries in 2015. That would apply to people like Jones, Sealy, Michael Lashley, Dr. Estwick and Kellman.

  24. checkit-out Avatar
    checkit-out

    Caswell;
    You’re probably right on all counts.

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ checkit-out | August 31, 2013 at 11:47 PM |
    “A new election will suit neither the Country, them nor the BLP.”

    Fumble is not only out of his depth but is also a lazy person who would be better off operating in the local circus call “lawyering” where he can do bull crap and get away with it. This type of modus operandi cannot be tolerated at the highest level management at the national level where a wide spectrum of issues, challenges and people are involved and requiring a different skills set which he certainly does not possess.

    The person capable of challenging and replacing the PM is Donville who is the only one who has the guts to call a spade a spade and is not afraid of the PM. Island girl is right in her assessment of the situation.
    The PM would like to remove this thorn in Cabinet but is too meek to reshuffle his Cabinet. He could seek to destroy Donville by giving the outspoken minister the portfolio of hemlock as was done to poor Chris who nobody likes these days.
    Donville has not interest in being MoF at this stage. He wants to become PM and them MoF.

    BTW, your point of the BLP (meaning MAM) not wanting elections at this stage is well taken. Her position as “LoO” is still not cemented. Fresh elections so early can see a resurrection of OSA and his lieutenants as the chances of the DLP being ejected from office by a landslide would certainly be higher than in the last round.

    OSA would be paraded as the Moses for the country’s economic salvation as the current DLP band of fools are totally out of their depth in the area of economic management.
    As was said before we are just witnessing a circus performance of foul-ups, bleeps and blunders ad nauseam. Is that what the nation is getting in return for “educating” these blasted fools?

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Caswell Franklyn | September 1, 2013 at 12:30 AM |

    Your interpretation of the political situation with the DLP ministers not wanting to execute another palace coup is sound as checkit-out has concurred. But have you considered the stark possibility that if this administration remains in situ the economy could deteriorate to so badly an extent that the payment of salaries and pensions would be under tremendous threat?
    So who would be paid first from the dwindling tax revenues: the bond holders, the remaining workers or the neutered pensioners?

  27. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Miller

    That question is too easy: the politicians will take their money first and then they will pay those who would be in place to crack skills and shoot down people. You must remember that most of them were unemployed or underemployed before gaining office. They will rain fire and brimstone on anyone, who they believe, is trying to put them back in that position.

  28. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    By the way Miller, let me correct you some of these people were not educated by the nation. My understanding is that they were certified by UWI because of their party affiliation and not because they passed any of the required courses.

  29. checkit-out Avatar
    checkit-out

    Miller;
    Re your 9:08 post on the question of the likely order of payments with drastically dwindling resources. 1st; The remaining workers who would include the MP’s since I don’t think even they would be crass enough to only pay themselves and they would ensure that they are paid to the bitter end.

    And then a mix and match including local and overseas creditors where influence would be paramount but where essentially any number can play with the pensioners at the bottom of the list.

  30. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Caswell Franklyn | September 1, 2013 at 9:25 AM |

    So there is some justification for OSA referring to them as a bunch of “Wild Boys”(as it was reported)?

  31. checkit-out Avatar
    checkit-out

    Miller; I only saw Caswell’s response after I posted mine.

  32. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Miller

    Arthur is not always wrong: in this case, he is spot on.

  33. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    http://bajan.wordpress.com/2013/01/12/the-violet-beckles-affair-separating-fact-from-fiction-part-v/#comments

  34. Tell me Why Avatar
    Tell me Why

    I watched Morning Barbados and the Chief Licensing Officer spoke of just one country using this technology. He was asked about the amount of data on these phones and if it get in the wrong hands and he was scotching to answer the question. I am asking again, How safe are these phones with people’s data?
    Later on Digi boss man came on and it was confirmed that Digi made the move two years ago to sell the government this idea. Guess who was MoT&W, no other than the present MoH. So don’t blame the present MoT&W. Was it not in the US that the law was against the numerous cameras installed on the roads and had to be disconnected citing invasion of privacy?

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