Majority Supporting Government's Tertiary Education Plan

Submitted by Fair Play
Minister of Education appeared on CBC's The People's Business to explain government's decision to ask UWI students to pay part of the cost of their degree.

Minister of Education appeared on CBC’s The People’s Business to explain government’s decision to make UWI students pay part of the cost of their degree.

I believe our plan to ask students to contribute a small part of the cost of their tertiary education at UWI has more public support than we think. Talking to people from all walks of life, and ironically, particularly among low income earners, there is much support.  Their comments run the gamut from: it makes sense; the country cannot afford 100% funding at this time; other countries that are better off than us don’t do it; and, it should have been implemented long ago; to, they have an attitude after graduation – forgetting who paid for their education; and they do not give back to society, especially the doctors and lawyers who charge the same benefactors (the taxpayers) very exorbitant fees.

Barbadians aren’t stupid.

However, over and above those sentiments, generally, most persons I spoke to agree with the percentage the students will have to pay. Even some, like Dr. Leonard Shorey, (a perennial BLP apologist) believe it should have been higher and was long in coming. And, the Sunday Sun poll surprisingly gave majority support to the Gov’t.

Conversely, the opposing political viewpoints and arguments come across as insincere and very specious. We, however, should undertake a sensitization and public relations exercise, post-haste. The CBC interview with Ronald Jones last Sunday night on The People’s Business was very enlightening – it was compelling television. He was quite clear and convincing as he persuasively elucidated government’s position. The only aspect of his explanation that had me a bit bothered, was when he said government was willing to listen to and entertain more suggestions and ideas, as the decision wasn’t cast in stone. All well and good. But, I hope some people don’t take that to mean that we are back-peddling or having second thoughts; or worse still, that the measure wasn’t well thought out and there is indecision. There should be no procrastination or vacillating. Having gone to Parliament and thoroughly debated the measure, it must be a fait accompli now. I think I understand the Minister’s comments though. His was offering a sympathetic ear.

After that interview, we must put a sustained PR campaign in place to sell and further buttress the policy, while garnering greater agreement and public acceptance. Bear in mind that the Opposition will not be letting-up on this one, and will be attacking the policy on all fronts. They have started, believing that they have smelled blood and sense an opening to mortally attack us. They think that going back on any aspect of free tertiary education is our Achilles’ Heel. But, it is backfiring on them. So far, general public opinion is with us; but we have to change that during the coming weeks and months to attain overwhelming public acceptance. We can and must do it.

108 thoughts on “Majority Supporting Government's Tertiary Education Plan


  1. Curb university costs by stemming debt
     

    By: Kristin Kent Special to the Star, Published on Thu Aug 15 2013
     
    Next year, Katie Jones* will graduate with $50,000 in student debt.The 26-year-old student exhausted her savings while pursuing her undergraduate degree. With no other choice — like 60 per cent of her fellow students — she applied for student loans.   http://www.thestar.com/life/modernmoney/2013/08/15/curb_university_costs_by_stemming_debt.html


  2. Fair Play sounds totally like a DLP strategist. But I must agree with him. I think the majority of Bajans are willing to throw UWI students under the bus, whether they attended UWI or not. Most are hoping that this measure will mean that there will be lesser pressure placed on their particular societal grouping be it weekly paid public servants, monthly paid ones, senior public servants, Captains of Industry, lowly paid private sector workers, highly paid private sector workers, pensioners, professionals such as Doctors, Lawyers, Dentists, Engineers, Architects, etc.

    The arguments are of significant relevance to the students themselves and their parents or guardians who will bite the bullet or postpone their attempts to access that which was formerly free to all. Others will commiserate with them and then withdraw to fight their own battles. In any case student numbers are likely to go down and with it overall expenditure at the University as well as Hilary’s dream, barring a volte face by Jones (which is unlikely)

    I think the BLP might have misread the tea leaves on this one. I suspect the campaign will die a natural death and fizzle out in due course.

    But I’m often wrong, as CCC will tell you.


  3. look after a week all this co-emotion would cease. the DLP led by Mia would get her foot soldiers together again to walk up and down swan street trying to reclaim territory. the public support for this initiavtive is not surprising and that is what the BLP fears the most, Like all the other hot button issues that the BLP brought to the frontlines before the election this teritary fee is going to be too exhausting for the BLP to gain any significant political mileage. This is about REALITY and not about “the POOR” as the yartdfowls would want the world to believe, and that sound and dance about the poor is not going to fly with the public who have already seen it as political grandstanding !overbearing and dellusional


    • Pic of the Day – Meet Zimeena Rasheed of Guyana the top High School student in the entire English Speaking Caribbean who took an all time Record …mind boggling 20 subjects for her CXC-CSEC Examination in one sitting and pass all 20 with an incredible 18 distinctions or 1s (A’s for my American friends) and 2 twos!! These are the subjects she received 1s in; Biology, Physics, Chemistry, Integrated Science, Agricultural Science (Double Award), Human and Social Biology, Mathematics, English A, English B, Technical Drawing, Electricity, Office Administration, Principles of Business, Information Technology, Social Studies, Home Economics Management, Food and Nutrition, Physical Education. She obtained grade two passes in: Caribbean History and Spanish!!


  4. The war is seemingly on and it will continue, that I can assure you. Maybe there are many of us too dishonest, or too self-serving not to have noticed that the war against the UWI did not start last week or last year. I will venture to say, that the very arguments that are outlined at the top of this post suggest another grave error by government; plain and simple, the wrong medicine being applied to problems misdiagnosed. It happened with the general macro-economy and now it is continuing with sectors within that economy. If as this blog is suggesting that persons are willing to support the government on the basis of those things contained in the first couple paragraphs, and that the government will front-load its arguments at the most banal targets and fetch emotional responses without the public discourse (informed) that was necessary, again it speaks to this party more willing to destroy all that was built over the last 50 years if it will keep them in government for another 5 to 10 years. Surely I am not speaking as one unable to discern, but then again, to be critical of the government whether of approach or actual policy is to be unpatriotic. I say that the truth will hit Barbados before year end, the multinationals are waiting to pounce just as the DLP pounced (perhaps too soon) on the poor and middle classes of Barbados. First battle won by the DLP. I predict that the BLP and the people of Barbados will win the war and progress, national development and prosperity shall return to the country. You cannot use surgery when you have totally misread the symptoms. You will throw out the baby with the bathwater.


  5. If greedy wait hot will cool.

    What points did Mia score with her 2 big lumpy legs spread around a jet ski in search of malcontents?

    What points did the BLP score walking out of parliament at the previous session?

    What points did she score on the clico issue;

    on the four seasons issue;

    On the Alexandra issue?

    I tell you if greedy wait hot will cool.


  6. Why don’t each of you who is so concern with the measure for the poor give a donation to one of the students?

    You must know someone at UWI who needs the help and assure them that you will help and take the burden off the parents, child and government.

    Heard the President of UWI Mona Guild talking with Marsha today and he said that currently he helps another Bajan student sometimes with a pack of macaroni as she has one meal a day due to astronomical cost.

    Sweet memories of some of us. There is nothing new under the sun – we come together and help each other and get the degree then help another brother.

    Again stop the whining … ‘comply and complain.’ No I apologise. Don’t do that ‘do all things without murmuring.’

    Many of our parents got consultancy jobs and sit on Government boards and can work two jobs. Do it and support your children stop the bleeding, correct the anaemia and let us breathe easier. Work out during this midlife crisis and eat nourishing foods and help our children – we are still of working age.

    However, get info from Govt about the oil in the sea. Come now let us look for lucrative ways of getting money into our island. BP has nuff nuff nuff money. To see their logo in Bim as a worksite would cause some hearts to pump freely again.


  7. google finance:-

    ‘BP p.l.c. (BP) is an integrated oil and gas company. The Company provides its customers with fuel for transportation, energy for heat and light, lubricants and the petrochemicals products used to make everyday items as diverse as paints, clothes and packaging. It operates in two business segments: Exploration and Production, and Refining and Marketing. Its Exploration and Production segment is responsible for its activities in oil and natural gas exploration, field development and production; midstream transportation, storage and processing, and the marketing and trading of natural gas, including liquefied natural gas, together with power and natural gas liquids. Its Refining and Marketing segment is responsible for the refining, manufacturing, marketing, transportation, and supply and trading of crude oil, petroleum, petrochemicals products and related services to wholesale and retail customers. The segment comprises three main businesses: fuels, lubricants and petrochemicals.’


  8. Whether people realise it or not, there are two things that are highly likely to play out that will increase litigation, congestion, and possible disgruntled behaviour in the university system after 2014.
    Firstly, if students (and especially through parents or other sponsors) will be burdened with taking out loans to pay tuition fees, it means that there will become a greater sense of duty owed to those students. While that sounds good on the surface, the university will have to attract even a higher quality lecturer/teacher which will come at a premium cost. Even then, it is highly unlikely that loans will be disbursed in one go, and performance will likely match installments. Again, on the surface it may be useful fr raising standards, but equally it requires a greater degree of input administrative work from lecturers/markers as well as from the overall system that will likely increase costs yet again. Failure to adequately deal with these things among the stakeholders (student, lecturers, administration, and university as a whole) will likely be challenged through the court system.
    Secondly, and not to be overlooked, there is likely to be greater uncertainty in the system and parents who may have 2 or 3 children at university age may have to fore go and sacrifice at east one child for the progress of another. Do you not think that would become a destabiliser within the family setting even as it is under pressure as we speak and with lessing spending power being available to families? In effect, in attempting to solve a problem of reducing the fiscal deficit, the DLP are likely to destroy alongside the free education symbol associated with Barrow, the families first dictum of Thompy and with that the dichotomous tenor that a country is more than an economy, it is a society will collapse.
    The gravity of Sinckler and the DLP’s medicine bring more far-reaching ramifications than have been put into the public domain. Any DLP success can at this time only be short-lived given the temperamental, emotive, and banal targeting of those who could careless since they do not see themselves as being directly affected. If we fail this and future generations, we will not be strict guardians of our heritage and hence would need a brand new national anthem.


    • @brief

      Didn’t Minister Denis Lowe in his contribution to the budget indicate that an aggressive drilling oil program is not compatible with a greening strategy?


  9. I am asking the Minister of Finance where are we on this venture and proposal between BP and our Gov’t?

    David let us hear more on this as the fishing agreement between TT is out to sea. Drilling for oil may have an impact.


  10. George B:

    Your tenor for compassion is truly admirable.

    So, the probable cause in the future would require a reverse or discontinuation of a measure. When that time comes we will revert. In the mean time, with your financial ‘deep pockets’ help yuh brudder, Uncle G. The rainy day is here.

    We try a risk good or bad – we see the advantages and all stakeholders and the immediate disadvantages. We were there without the hike and we made it. If after a season we realize it can’t be sustained then we stop it and increase busfares for every single person, increase VAT to 20% return BLP to power so that Mia would take VAT from light, water and gas, and live happily ever after.

    I believe the only part of the above you lllloooooveee is the return of the BLP to power. But what a dream!!! We can all dream.

    Uncle G these are my views.


  11. man fear play have no fear. the PM was well prepared for the uninformed BLP yardfowls to engage in below the belt tactics, remember just before the elections all that is being said about the PM is being said now, one thing this PM has going for him is that he has never disrespected those whom has supported him and yes they are many out there in the populace who respects him. this so-called “LIE” one which the BLP has pounced on would have no long standing effect and would back fire on the BLP come next election, as they have too many skeletons many which are buried in OSA closet
    Right now as far as PR the BLP is doing a poor job of executing the LIE while in the meantime the public is examing their motives . having a change for better and calling it a LIe is in itself a :LIE being told to a public who can”T not be fooled and sees an agenda being attached, .. A lie can stand on its own. A Lie does not need any help or mouthpieces to push it or drive it into any praticular direction to be proven as being a LIE. In effect that is what the BLP is doing by trying to create a LIE based on a promise that was unsustainable and the people already sense what the BLP is up to and they will be disappointed..


  12. DEAD wrong for the government never know how to stop when they start to bill people or students, , Look at road tax, look at VAT, look at water , light, land tax , inch by inch ,
    God did not give us a tax for using our brains,
    All who ever in favor for more taxes with less work , Will pay more , for who cant go to school will go to jail , for jail is more money,
    Keep look to act like the Americans and will end up the same way.
    Stupid People , Need to charge the lawyer more money for their main business is house and land.All the rental they have and pay nothing to inland revenue . Clear clean money off the books ,
    Minister took a pay hike and chop everyone else when their the ones who stole and mismanage the peoples money.
    Shut the island down and we will see who the crooks are ,
    Sinkman MOF,MOE the PM all crooks , lets all go fishing and be done,
    leave the students alone, tax the churches for them just as bad as the 2 parties sucking from the people with nothing in return ,,,,Devils


  13. @ DLP Fair Play:
    “The only aspect of his explanation that had me a bit bothered, was when he said government was willing to listen to and entertain more suggestions and ideas, as the decision wasn’t cast in stone. All well and good. But, I hope some people don’t take that to mean that we are back-peddling or having second thoughts; or worse still, that the measure wasn’t well thought out and there is indecision. There should be no procrastination or vacillating.”

    Oh what contradictions within a contradiction as reflected in your moniker!
    So Minister Jones is again playing cat and mouse with the people’s business? Why listen and entertain more suggestions if you have absolutely no plans of back-peddling, having second thoughts, etc? Is this the way to conduct the people’s (taxpayers’) business in stubborn monkey fashion?

    Here is something very serious for you to consider. There is “absolutely” NO way the Cave Hill Campus can be sustained or be a viable entity as it is presently configured without large subventions from government and an ability to maintain at a consistent level the current cohort of students now required to pay mandatory full tuition fees.
    There is a very high probability of current student drop outs will increase with even future cohort uptake significantly diminishing over time as the quality of teaching and programme delivery deteriorates as a result of cutbacks in funding. The fixed costs on the ground are too much for the currently configured funding model to bear without massive underwriting by taxpayers and ‘well-off” fee paying students with limited options to high quality university education.
    Moreover there is too much ‘duplicating’ competition between Cave Hill and other tertiary or adult learning institutions in such a limited and physically constraining market place call Barbados.

    What Minster Jones is doing (like Freundel) is to continue to play bo peep with people.
    The far reaching goal that has been imposed on the GoB is the drastic cutback of the Cave Hill Campus if not its eventual closure in the longer term interest of rationalization and restructuring of the overall UWI regional presence in a increasingly competitive cyber(ICT) world of university education and training offerings.

    Why expand the BCC in offering more university type degree qualifications in direct competition to the Cave Hill Campus unless there is more in the Cave Hill mortar than just the Sir Hilary pestle?
    The Beckles empire theatre is about to come crashing down and join its once “magna cum laude” cousin on Probyn St. which was once the talk of the town.


  14. Lowe is a Dam crook , nothing he say worth a dam,
    like you all for got the oil spill and the farmers and Ralph Thorne , took the farmers and did nothing,,, You all keep voting for fools and crooks and you get what you vote for , More Taxes and VAT and less of every thing,
    Better get a good FOCUS ,FOCUS FOCUS and stop getting distracted with long talking,


  15. Miller and George B:

    Why would the quality of teaching reduced if we are trying to sustain an economy?

    So the lecturers come from underground or out of space? Were they trained at UWI or Harvard that they cannot contribute to the livelihood of fellowmen?

    Who stands to benefit from poor tuition and selecting disgruntled lecturers?

    We all fail if this happens. Who then would select the lecturers to speak at any forum for free or with charge?

    Both of you completed the doctorate programme and would you even think of offering substandard service to students being firm craftsmen of our fate. No, you cannot do not – you are men of integrity and you are ‘loyal sons’, you will write your ‘names on history’s page’ through this season ‘with expectations great.’


  16. Miller

    I must give you all BLP jokers one thing, you have an unlimited capacity for opposing.

    And that’s about it.


  17. David I didn’t hear nor did I read that.

    The drilling Lowe would speak of would be in land and not offshore. BWA has to drill to lay pipes and Lowe cannot stop that project. We will not run water line above ground neither will dig for water up in the air.

    I took what Miller advised and took a pinch of salt, now you want to send me for more salt – I ain’ doing dah man.

    The 30 workers that were sent home based on Nation news from BWA had completed a contract with the BWA with the specialized project that is on stream and the money had exhausted. Lowe can talk to get an award from UN like his predecessor but drilling gine happen. Estwick will continue his project in Lowe’s green economy.


  18. @David
    Why did you link to that article in The Star? You want to wake people up from their stupor to see how the rest of the world is getting by? Last week I wrote that the average student debt on graduation up here was $20,000-30,000 and I want to apologise for misleading some folks as it is even higher.

    There are some who are making political capital out of the imposition of student fees but the current system is unsustainable except for those who believe that Gov’t’s role is to take care of its citizens from cradle to grave but little or no responsibility accrues to the citizen.


  19. look after a week all this co-emotion would cease. the DLP led by Mia would get her foot soldiers together again to walk up and down swan street trying to reclaim territory. the public support for this initiavtive is not surprising and that is what the BLP fears the most, Like all the other hot button issues that the BLP brought to the frontlines before the election this teritary fee is going to be too exhausting for the BLP to gain any significant political mileage. This is about REALITY and not about “the POOR” as the yartdfowls would want the world to believe, and that sound and dance about the poor is not going to fly with the public who have already seen it as political grandstanding !overbearing and dellusional

    ac that is why the country is in such a poor state all around. you dlp apologists always seek in matters requiring serious public discourse to distort the picture in an effort to defend the failings of your once noble institution. the underlying issue is not whether it is right or wrong to make students pay for tuition fees, or that the majority supposedly support the draconian policy but the thoughtlessness and brutality and timing in implementation and the embarrassing volte face by none other than our prime minister who if he was on top of things unless he had deliberately set out to deceive ought to have known better. read my lips. perhaps if persons like you spent more time in george street pointing out to the hierarchy the error of their ways rather than defending at times the indefensible, the once great party whose creativity helped propel Barbados from a village to a modern society might regain the respect as a noble institution once again.


  20. I don’t know who is the “WE’ referred to in the Fair Play posting.I assume its the DLP,now known as the worst government Barbados has ever had.So mote it be!


  21. A certain future coalitional government in Barbados, and of which the PDC will be part of, shall make sure that the present UWI campus IS BROUGHT TO AN END and in its place the creation and establishment of a University of Barbados.

    Indeed, the achievement of this fundamental national objective will speak to the culmination of the project of the government of Barbados and some others leading the way in ensuring that access by the whole social classes of Barbados is not only guaranteed from pre-primary to tertiary levels in this country, but is also guaranteed in academic institutions that will be OWNED and CONTROLLED by the people of this country ( publicly), or that will be OWNED and CONTROLLED by some people of this country (privately ), or that will be OWNED and CONTROLLED jointly by local and international people (privately not involving other governments), in accordance with the relevant ‘education’ laws that hitherto would have been debated in the Constituency Assemblies of this country, and passed by the majority of persons present in each Assembly and voting to effect the passing of such laws.

    Moreover, these academic technical business artistic institutions ( and in each of their cases) will be duty bound to pursue and uphold the very highest standards in ‘education, enlightenment, scholarship and research’ in this country where the emphasis will be on the quest for moral, intellectual, and scientific truths and their appraisal, codification, and exposition; the transmission of sound proper Barbadian (and/or where necessary or desirable ) regional universal ideals and values; and on educing and harnessing the life potentialities, skills and projects of the pupils and students in the particular academic technical business institutions.

    PDC


  22. balance you speak of serious public debate. how can there be serious public debate when in fact the opposition had no alternatives measures to bring to the people NO! but instead lowered the bar and resort to rherotic ! emotionalism and cowardice. so what do u expect. The BLP are the ones to blame for the direction the debate has taken. how can a serious opposition take a serious issue and use high drama and in effect is looking to public sentiment as guidance.THE ball was in their court and they drop it.


  23. Just my two cents. Somehow the measure doesn’t bother me. Maybe because I have never been of the view that UWI is designed to help people. You spend your first year doing totally different subjects than your major and you have to pass ALL to get to major, however unrelated they may be. Then we complain that students are staying at UWI too long on the tax payers money, but how can they NOT be there long, when we don’t allow them to go in, do what they came to do, and get out? People end up doing soooo many subjects they don’t care about, that UWI is all about regurgitation of text and not understanding or experience. Many UWI graduates have to seek assistance from other who went to SJPP because they enter work environments with a degree that was gained by regurgitation. No understanding and definitely not experience.


  24. Barbados has deteriorated under this DLP administration. It shows a lack of awareness that the DLP who were elected in early 2008 seemed to know nothing of the world economic crisis which began in 2007. Yet they came to the electorate with a whole bundle of promises, 90% which have not been kept.

    They accused the BLP of all types of corruption yet they have not brought any charges against any of them. Knowing the types of corruption they accused the BLP of they should have expected to be handed a bad economy. So now after 5 years in office and unwisely given a fresh mandate, by a narrow margin by persons whose intelligence or sanity should be checked, I don’t want to hear about “oh, de BLP do dis”, “De BLP do dat”. Maybe in the first year of their first term but it is petty and weak to still be hearing it now.

    Al Barrack has not been paid, CLICO is still looming, Four Seasons etc. Taxes have gone up, light and water has gone up. Youth unemployment is way up, this will create many lost generations as more children leave school
    and can find no job. Now they’ve gone and raise fees for university students, expect less persons to attend university. Getting into debt for an education in this economic environment is not wise, that’s my advice to anyone thinking about it. If you know you can pay it back without trouble fine.

    They espouse entrepreneurism but doing business in barbados is notoriously a corrupt and inneficient process. High port fees, duties and taxes means imported goods must be sold at high markups to get a decent profit and even those items that are not “over dutied” who ensures the consumer knows what these items are so he is not fleeced. Go in town or some mall to rent floor space from an east indian or Mr.Rowe. Banks don’t want to loan money to most new startups especially black startups.

    We talk about Barbados tourism product being targeted to the High end market but it has shot itself in the foot with it’s exorbitant prices and has become stale and boring. Who gine come back to overpriced boredom unless the visitor wants a place to relax in which case there are cheaper destinations.

    What is the cause of all this? Overpayed yet underperforming government, all of it. DLP I’m not impressed!! BLP I’m not impressed!! Keep taxing, keep taking, keep stealing, keep getting fat, keep playing peekaboo then coming wid Shakespeare. call me an ungrateful wretch
    as I know you will. Suicides going up, they were wretched too.

    And my fellow citizens of Barbados we must kneel and pray everyday at least once for better leadership and for the criminals and psychopaths in parliament and high places to meet justice. Pray for them.

    Riots in de land!!!


  25. I have said it already and I will say it again.

    If I were the PM I would not touch the Barrack issue with a ten foot pole. I would leave it right where it is for the BLP to deal with, whenever that is.

    Likewise the CLICO issue.


  26. Wunna yardfowls keep talking flooishness and don.t bring alternative and realistic solutions to the people and just wait and see what happen come 2018.. The people might not have elected the BLP but the BLP owes it to the people to present credible and realistic goals and resolutions .all this meandering and playing on peoples emotions should be thrown out the window and replaced by Facts and an understanding that their strength lies in what they have to offer the people.


  27. Carson…………a government is chosen by the taxpayers to fix the problems that they inherited from the previous government in the country, not to just enjoy their salaries and leave the problems for the next party 5-50 years going down the road, in case you have a problem understanding job descriptions, that is not what the DLP is being paid a monthly salary for, they are supposed to deal with the economic issues and resolve them. That comment made you look even more stupid, i did not think that was even possible.

    Yardfowls like you should suffer the most in the upcoming hardships, you care nothing about the issues affecting taxpayers, you have a real bottom of the barrel mentality.


  28. Riots in de land!!! | August 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM |

    ….. Al Barrack has not been paid, CLICO is still looming, Four Seasons etc.

    Do not forget the long overdue (years) VAT refunds due to Adrian Loverage – and no doubt hundreds if not thousands of other businesses.


  29. @Well Well “a government is chosen by the taxpayers to fix the problems that they inherited from the previous government in the country, not to just enjoy their salaries and leave the problems for the next party 5-50 years going down the road, in case you have a problem understanding job descriptions, that is not what the DLP is being paid a monthly salary for,…”

    I really don’t know why Carson should respond to you. MP Kellman in St. Lucy and late David Thompson MP in St. John were members of parliament and their constituencies were not touched by a one-foot pole let only considered to be touched with a ten-foot pole by the BLP led gov’t.

    It cannot be that when the DLP party wins gov’t unattended issues are to be fixed and when the BLP party wins Gov’t it is what they are interested in and give priority to and that is ‘well well’ for our electorate of the same country.

    Well, you may not be aware so let me share we all live here and are human beings. You choose what you deal with in the BLP and the DLP will choose their priorities.

    Barrack will be reached, ask Plantation Deeds how many landless citizens are awaiting a hearing in court for their land deeds due to the improprieties of attorneys-at-law that they trust. Barrack trusted the BLP to compensate him for services rendered and they did not. The DLP will reach him – when they can … be patient. They did not say that he should not nor will not be paid. Like any other citizen he will wait regardless of what the court says – let the court deal with the gov’t to enforce payment.

    In the meantime ‘Well Well’ go out and support the women who are being beaten unrelentlessly by emotional, mentally unstable men and encourage the Police to respond promptly to domestic abuse calls. That would be well well indeed, well done.


  30. “let only considered” should be let alone.

    Carson I see your post to Well Well and I concur in my last paragraph.


  31. “…in de land” the riots you refer to are within yourself. Let us help get them out through confession. Peace be to you.

    All that you have mentioned are correct. Now what are the measures that the BLP party are putting on the table?

    Fish would not stink in Barbados yet we are not hearing from Mia a revisit of the fishing agreement with Tdad – she has said nothing on that matter but she could be seen on a ski-boat in waters to the knee. She led the discussions when the BLP administration was in office yet not one single word to help those entreprenuers (fisher folk).

    That is only one grave pertinent issue.


  32. Due Diligence | August 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

    don’t write foolishness.

    You failed to mention the $620million owed to the Government of Barbados by the Private sector. Had they paid their dues the country would not be in dire straights. ADRIAN LOVERIDGE would have been paid his few cents a long time ago.

    The Barbados Labour Party members and supporters are going up and down this country stopping the Private sector from paying their dues.

    I guess the wicked Barbados Labour Party y never read:-

    ” 20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?

    21 They say unto him, Caesar’s. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.

    22 When they had heard these words, they marvelled, and left him, and went their way.”


  33. @ Carson C. Cadogan | August 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM |
    “If I were the PM I would not touch the Barrack issue with a ten foot pole. I would leave it right where it is for the BLP to deal with, whenever that is.
    Likewise the CLICO issue.”

    I have to totally agree with you even if not with you encouraging your man to ride roughshod over the Law and dismiss any Court orders.

    Both AL Barrack and the CLICO policyholders deserve what is happening to them in trusting the biggest moral fraud, hypocrite and liar around the place.

    Now Carrion you should strongly advise the same policyholders to cease paying their premiums which only go to fund the work of the financial mortician called Terrence T. and Co in applying embalming fluids and formaldehyde to preserve the fallen dead of a once highly productive cash cow Daisy owned by Farmer Leroy Parris and milked by DT the milkmaid for the DLP until it udders became sorely inflamed to cause cancerous political mastitis.

    You see now Carrion, your Uncle Tom is not only a BLP yardfowl but also is also a supporter of your call to further “screw” Barrack and the CLICO policyholders especially that bald pooch cat. Let the dead bury the dead so we leave you Carrion to inter the skeleton dead cow once called CLICO the fatted calf in the mausoleum in St. John; the one in the Church Yard that is, not the one around the corner called the DT memorial Complex.


  34. And if the current Government had not paid out almost a MILLION DOLLARS in TIRF (taxpayer grant monies) to subsidise Carson’s hotel, we might have got our outstanding VAT due, even sooner. 3 years and 9 months and counting.


  35. Blame Blame Blame
    everybody
    except the DLP
    perfect ministers
    perfect prime minister
    perfect monetary and fiscal policies
    perfect harmony
    high employment
    low taxation
    prosperity
    poverty
    alleviated
    everybody happy
    Up and On with DLP


  36. ac | August 21, 2013 at 9:40 AM |
    Wunna yardfowls keep talking flooishness and don.t bring alternative and realistic solutions to the people and just wait and see what happen come 2018.. The people might not have elected the BLP but the BLP owes it to the people to present credible and realistic goals and resolutions .all this meandering and playing on peoples emotions should be thrown out the window and replaced by Facts and an understanding that their strength lies in what they have to offer the people
    ————————————–
    BLP proposes
    DLP disposes
    will DLP listen
    if BLP talks
    ………dont think so !
    will say
    ……wunna had 14 years
    —-we dont wanna hear wunna
    ——————————-
    Yaaaaaaaaaagga again !


  37. @Yagga .. it is clear that the DLP is not perfect because Adrian Loveridge is not paid 3years and 9 mnths and he is still waiting. UWI is not paid, Barrack is not paid and we go on and on and on with outstanding payments.

    So no, the DLP is not perfect men and women.

    How is it no-one is looking into the Republic Bank of TT – did they pay the Gov’t? or do they owe the Gov’t after the purchase of its shares?

    Come BLP put something that generates revenue on the table, let us discuss please.

    TT Express found all types of infelicities against Jack Warner when he was Minister of National Security and Transport … with doucmentation and I am not seeing any thing ‘just talk’ coming from the BLP against this DLP led admin,

    I am not so blind that I cannot see regardles of my freedom of association.


  38. I say the “No’s” have it. This motion is now defeated. The people have spoken and we can see that this defeat shows that the people disagree and we can see no “Fair Play” was involved. Next motion – Refusal of Supplementaries. Opps. This has been withdrawn by the honourable member.


  39. Brief………..the AG Brathwaite who makes up the government and is responsible for police taking abused females seriously should be the one making sure the police do their jobs, that is what he is being paid a salary by the taxpayers on a monthly basis for, that is his job description in case the ministers still believe that it is not part of their jobs to enforce laws against domestic abuse, i do not benefit from taxpayers money as i am many many miles away………..hope that answers your question.

    Carson rarely answers me because he can’t think beyond is petty and trifling party politics and insularly lower minded mentality…..hope that also answers your question.


  40. foolishness by this GOV’T
    has improved the odds in
    favour of the next PM
    of Barbados being a WOMAN
    Come on women of Barbados
    Seize the moment !!


  41. I am not so blind that I cannot see regardles of my freedom of association.
    Brief – from the time your moniker appeared I realise your affiliation. Do you feel any opposition will give the Government in power food for thought?


  42. I grew up hearing the saying, “Don’t start anything that you not sure you can finish.” This seems to have caught up with the MOE.

    Be as it may, for the life of me, I don’t understand why people think that they are entitled to freebies – be it a higher level of education or whatever. Why can’t they see opportunities such as free education as a privilege and NOT a right.

    For the MOE to offer free tertiary education years ago was applausable and may have been the way to go, even though it is not compulsory.

    With our changing economic times, we should not be disappointed if changes are made to what was once free education.


  43. Carson…….by the by, you really need to stop quoting Kennedy and everyone else, try formulating your own words, it is possible to think for yourself, you don’t have to be an automated yardfowl your whole life………..those words are still valid, but not in the same context that is running through your limited mind. You may want to print those words in 16 type font and distribute it among both the DLP and BLP parliamentarians, that is where it applies right now and is very appropriate in waking these many lawyers and others up.


  44. Yagga

    You are appealing to women in Barbados to come out in support of Mia? Them ain’t got anything in common and she only got uses for them when she trolling look for some young girl to beat and bite up.

    Mia can’t get much support with women or the good Christian folk of Barbados, you really feel Bajans foolish. If she became PM she would make Tom Adams like like a amateur and a saint.


  45. HOW DUMB CAN ONE BE yagga response is clearly why the BLP lost. Imagine instead of TAKLING TO THE PEOPLE. the yardfowls decides that saying nothing is better because the DLP wouldn.t listen to them Well DUH.it is the people STUPID whose interest should be serve When it all comes right down to the issue of goverance. the people deserves to hear viable options.nothing to do whether the DLP listen or not. In the final analaysis it is the PEOPLE WHO DECIDES.


  46. @Riots… to quote you..”unwisely given a fresh mandate, by a narrow margin by persons whose intelligence or sanity should be checked,”
    These are the same people you would like to vote for your party? You insult the electorate, denigrate them, demean them and expect them to support you? I f they did then they would really have to have their sanity checked..seriously.talk to those who attended university (not in B’dos) pre 1976, check those who studied overseas who worked and studied at the same time and realise how privileged the Bajan students have been. I am in favour of government sponsored education at the tertiary level, but when reality sets in then better can’t be done. I know about the 1937 riots (see my book “The Wind Also Listens” )
    DON’T PRAY FOR RIOTS.


  47. BTW Riots I was a student both pre and post 1976 so I have experienced both having to pay and having the government funded benefits.I have also studied here and overseas.


  48. @Brief
    “Fish would not stink in Barbados yet we are not hearing from Mia a revisit of the fishing agreement with Tdad – she has said nothing on that matter but she could be seen on a ski-boat in waters to the knee. She led the discussions when the BLP administration was in office yet not one single word to help those entreprenuers (fisher folk).
    Mia cannot talk about the fishing agreement because the court case and discussions were not about any fishing agreement. The people were fooled. The court case in the Hague was to DEFINE THE BOUNDARIES (ECONOMIC) between Barbados and Trinidad so that the mineral resources within those boundaries (Oil and Gas) could be exploited. That is why oil companies were invited to bid on drilling rights within those boundaries. There was no intention to negotiate a fisheries agreement. The right to fish within the Trinidad boundaries were dismissed by the Hague arbitrators with the understanding that the two governments would come to a decision after discussion within as short a space of time (expeditiously) as possible. Mia and the BLP never reached a decision. So do not expect her ( or for that matter, the BLP) to ever talk about that fisheries agreement.


  49. The DLP won the election and formed the government whether some of us like it or not.I would not under any circumstance tell them of any solutions I might have to resolve this wreck of an economy called Barbados.Not one idea would I share with them.
    As far as I recall the BLP govt had appealed the Barrack matter and the decision was handed down in 2008 or 2009.I recall also that one of the first orders of business was a grinning David Thompson and an equally grinning and gullible Barack being inducted into the DLP membership in Jan or Feb 2008!
    I expected to hear AG Brathwaite or M Lashley or Dr Estwick today on radio making excuses because after all the fuss made earlier in the Belle murder in Haggatt Hall,the DLP had made lots of promises to ensure there was no repeat of that terrible tragedy and lo and behold the deceased’ daughters say the same thing,there was no help from anybody,neither police,member of parliament,pastor or priest.In the bad old days of the colonial experience the children would have called the parish priest and the station sargeant and both would have been there to offer help and resolution.Bajans were told if you want justice kick out the planters and ‘let we in’ so we kin represent wunna.So what is the experience.The canecutters doing worse.


  50. @Gabriel Tackle.
    Typical response from a disgruntled loser, as well as one who does not put country first.Sorry we are not on the plantation anymore. I gues this would have been the response from a plantation owner when emancipation was proclaimed..


  51. @Gabriel Tackle,
    Forgot to remind you the appeal was heard and the decision (appeal rejected) before the BLP left office, at that time the amount was in the tens of millions of dollars. In addition you should know the days of the Parish priest and the Police sargeant are over. this event took place at the fishing complex, not in the village..


  52. @Boots Cummins
    I was referring to the children of the deceased saying that they called the Police at District A and District C on this matter.That they called three times to make a report.That the last time was on Thursday 15th August and they are of the opinion that if the Police had taken their calls and complaints seriously,their Mum might be alive today.Your response is no surprise to me.After all you support the Damed Li-ed Party.Maybe Adrien Brathwaite might now go all out to ensure this domestic violence thing is brought under lawful control.In the old days the Station Sarj would have got on his bike and from the time the assailant see him coming he would take flight,knowing that he would be arrested and in the cells in no time.Same thing for hanging murderers.When ya get turn down and the Doris left Central wid de bells ringing ya know ya goose cook.


  53. hi angel Gabriel. . are u saying that the BLP not supposed to help the country, are you that dumb not to realize that whether or not the blp is in power the people interest should come first,


  54. @ ac | August 21, 2013 at 8:03 PM |

    Your expectation of the BLP advising the DLP how to run the country in the people’s interest is tantamount of ac agreeing with the miller that privatization is good for the country with it acting as a spur to increasing entrepreneurial activity among the black business class.
    Do you agree ac, or you are not interested in real people’s matters?

    Yes ac do your thing and as usual and cuss off the miller as you usually do with MIA now that she has replaced OSA.


  55. @AC
    The BLP appears to be doing a lot of harm to the DLP,if what I hear represents their fears.The ‘rubbing shoulders’ campaign seem to have the DLP camp in a spot of bother.I think the die is cast ac.The IMF has Stuart and Sinckler in its sights.Sacred Cow no 2 is on the carriage belt.Let us hope it can be taken off before it reaches Christine Lagarde,who will remember what the GoCB told her earlier this year;that she did not understand economics Barbados style.Even at that level the DLP did not want any help,let alone hear the truth.


  56. RUBBING SHOULDERS DOING SERIOUS DAMAGE TO THE DLP.
    YUH KNOW WHERE RUBBING SHOULDERS WOULD BE VERY EFFECTIVE ?

    IN ST JOHN

    THE BLP NEEDS TO TALK TO THEM PEOPLE IN ST.JOHB.ST. JIHN PEOPLE NEED TO BE BROUGHT INTO THE LIGHT AND BE RECONDITIONED TO FORGET THE DLP


  57. OH HOW GREAT IT WOULD AFTTER A SUSTAINED CAMPAIGN IN ST.JOHN , THEY VOTE DLP. RIGHT NOW ST.JOHN IS BACKWARD. SOMEWHERE BACK IN 1849
    THE BLP MUST ENLIGHTENMENT THEM.

    I AM GOING TO GET VEX IF THE BLP DOES NOT LAUNCH AN ATTACK ON.ST.JOHN


  58. two of the most annoying post ever miller and Gabriel. not to out done is balams donkey “jack ass…ing”i.e just asking..


  59. @Candid August 21, 2013 at 11:04 AM…” I don’t understand why people think that they are entitled to freebies – be it a higher level of education or whatever. Why can’t they see opportunities such as free education as a privilege and NOT a right.”

    If the people are giving the government tens of thousand dollars a year, of “free” money every year for decades, then the people have a right to expect “free” education from their “free” money.

    When are people like candid going to get it through thier heads that the government doesn’t give us anything.

    The government pays for OUR freebies with OUR tax money.


  60. In my lifetime I’ve paid about $400,000 in taxes.

    I’ve never used UWI.

    I’ve never used the QEH.

    Since I’ve never used any of the freeness PAID FOR WITH MY MONEY

    May I have a refund please?

    Simple so

    Simon


  61. They said the same thing about Noah who preached a hundred and twenty years.

    I would warn you ac not to curse me
    You better be careful with me -you flea infested mongrel with dragon breath to boot. The bacteria in your mouth are having a party. You spend too much time writing shite on this blog and yuh breath smell like sheep shite. Go and wash yuh stinking ass , it could do with a washing . You could do with a proper bath. Armpits smell worse than decaying garbage in a land fill. Be off ! you phucking imbecile


  62. THE DEMS shite in you mout
    The amount o shite that you does spew , you are overloaded with shite. On this blog defending blasted foolishness from a bunch of stinking LIARED DLP politicians . You need your phucking head examined because it cracked. Dog shite makes more sense !


  63. @Just asking, so i guess that the rest of us on the blog will have to put up with ur shite talk for what, four years and a bit?


  64. JUST ASKING

    The BLP cannot worry with St John. I believe some of the younger people have woken up and have began to see that blindly supporting the DLP for generations has not done much for them. Many of those who voted BLP are young.

    The problem is up in St John they have a strange mentality. One night during the by-election, some friends and I went up to St John. We were parking on a side road, two women came out of the shack they call a house shouting don’t park in front here, don’t park in front here. They had big Mara posters in their so called patio.

    Because we are civilised people and did not care for a confrontation with idiots, we moved the car. But let me tell you, we vowed that when we returned and there was any damage to our car, we were going for the police for them. With all due respect, many of St John people are very ignorant! That’s a fact!


  65. @Tell me Why | August 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM |

    I am not so blind that I cannot see regardles of my freedom of association.
    Brief – from the time your moniker appeared I realise your affiliation. Do you feel any opposition will give the Government in power food for thought?

    Mia Mottley is my Parliamentary Rep and I shall always support her for her deeds to the youth and the elderly, entreprenuers and underpriviledge in our constituency and ‘regardless of my freedom of association.’

    Oh by the way: ‘Yuh can’t change that.’ Bajans ought not to be afraid of their choice of affiliation in a democracy. I don’t where a vote today determines who you support in the same day or the tomorrow.


  66. I find it passing strange that the educated DLP leaning gurus from up on the Hill have not uttered a word on the severe cuts this wicked inept incompetent government have imposed on the people of Barbados. Not a word except a little from Dr Don Marshall this morning.

    Let them keep their silence, say nothing and do nothing. Let me tell them something……………if less people are able to send their children to UWI, there will be less money going into the coffers of UWI, the UWI will have no alternative but to cut and combine programmes……………. thus there will be no need for so many lecturers, professors, deans, tutorial leaders, programme assistants, office staff etc.

    Imagine not a word on the severity of the cuts to the QEH and to me this is the worse cut of all. As a caller to Brasstacks said yesterday, the government can provide children with free bus rides to get to the UWI but when they get there, they cannot go in as they have no money to pay the UWI tuition cost the government has imposed on them.

    So keep your silence, UWI elite, this is the poor’s time, your time will come!


  67. @Just Asking

    I think that the DLP should launch a campaign in St. Michael North East. Touch North, South, East and West simultaneously and take it back from the BLP.

    Consider how it was given over in the first place.

    Are you guys ever balance in your thinking?


  68. @Just asking
    why do you have to resort to the type of invective you unleashed on ac? If this is the type of talk that is typical of BLP free range fowls then the sensible people in the country will never vote for you. It shows the low lwvel you are prepared to go to try and gaet your point across, and when you can’t you refuse to accept facts,prefering to curse. why?


  69. @ alvin cummins | August 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM |
    “It shows the low lwvel you are prepared to go to try and gaet your point across, and when you can’t you refuse to accept facts,prefering to curse. why?”

    How right you are to drag the incorrigible ‘JA” across the goals. But why single out “Just Asking” when “ac” is the epitome and chief exhibitor of the same acts you seek to condemn?
    Just examine the language she uses to describe the Rt. Hon O S Arthur and see if it is not of similar derogatory tone as the kind used above.

    Here is just one example straight from the dirty mouth of the now “washed in the blood of the lamb” ac:
    “ac | November 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM |
    Look realist check the niggers who youlay up in bed wid before having dem babies mek sure they got plenty money in de pocket to buy shoes nuhbody owe yuh a dim.”

    But what we would like to hear from you is what are your views regarding the intention of this DLP administration to borrow US $500 million or Bds $1,000,000,000.00.
    How can you explain supporting an administration that vehemently criticized the previous BLP administration for racking up a national debt of nearly $ 5 billion leaving a millstone around the necks of future generations and fiscally hamstringing the DLP but could see nothing wrong in increasing the same millstone by doubling its size to over $10 billion and about to increase by at least another Bds $ 500 million when we take into consideration the desirable debt swap of an existing $1/2 billion.

    In other words, how can you be so deceitfully lying but still has the gall to condemn “Just asking”?


  70. Hey miller as amatter of fact iwas kinda of amused by jackassing resoponse also kinda of jubliant cause it exposes the low level and the nature and nuture of the BLP yard fowls more in line with how they treat those who are in disagreement such language can be traced right back to there former leader whom jackassing have so much deep respect.. not all surprised byjackassing respond .kinda estatic.


  71. @ ac | August 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM |

    You sound as if you are going off your rockers!
    You have been exposed as a blatant liar by David for ‘pretending’ you recently visited St. Lucia.
    Now that you have been further exposed as a dirty mouth hypocrite and are displaying all the symptoms of paranoid schizophrenia.
    But can we expect anything different from a person who sees nothing immoral about backing a jackass who is a boss liar who is surely destroying the moral fabric and international reputation of your unfortunate country which once “punched above its weight”.

    Instead of visiting St. Lucia you should have made an appointment to be an inpatient at your local funny farm. Imagine blaming the OSA and the BLP for moving the debt from $4.7 billion in 2008 to over $10 billion and rising. A sure sign of perfect madness.


    • @Miller

      Do you want to rise above these exchanges?

      There comes a point where the debate is of nuisance value when both of the players red and forget about the real issue.

      BU is asking you because go do so to ac is useless.


  72. @miller ……..so what is your point again…………….FUh real……………go get a life please…………Anybody who seem to have reached the moon is u….are you losing your mind ..accusing me of something i didn. say in refe.to debt…….man go get a f…king life and take jackassing along with you u figging lunatic……..wuh david expose what and if so u de f…ck ac have to please …..fuh sure no mudd f..ink one on BU…man get to ..uck out my face talking gibbige


  73. @Miller
    I agree with you that sometimes ac and a few others use language and say things that I condemn equally. we are educated enough to criticize and differ without stooping to that level and ac is as guilty at times. Now to yur question regarding the proposed new loan. I remember that the Minister carefully explained that the reason for the loan was to take out a Bond issue that would payoff previous loans due ( and bunching) at a later date…I think he pointed out that in 2021 and the following year these bonds would have to be payable thus making it difficult for that administration of the time to have to pay. In addition he pointed out that the interest rate available at this time is lower than the interest rate at which the previous loan was borrowed, thus it is opportune to renew the loan at this time. If I am mistaken point it out to me specifically…That is what I remember.In addition it would provide the contry with needed foreign exchange.

    where is this position wrong?


    • @Alvin

      By rolling over debt plus additional borrowing Barbados debt profile has worsened. We can debate that it s necessary but it s what it is.


  74. @Miller I condemned Just asking for his choice of words, his invective which I feel are uncalled for, whoever they are directed toward or whatever the situation. can’t different words be chosen?
    @David
    Yes the debt profile has worsened, but as you say it is what it is, and the circumstances are what they are. There is no avoiding the facts. It is what it is and we have to do what we have to do to get out of the situation. No one, ardent christion, or sinner can get to heaven, or hell, without dying. Everyone has to deal with their situation in the way they know how. The governor of the Central Bank warned that it would be painful. Dr Frank Alleyne pointed out that it would be painful, either you take the Castor Oil in one gulp without anything, or you take it with some oragnge juice to make it a bit more palatable, but however you take it it HAS to be taken. The students having to pay for their tuition may be entitled the end of and era, but it can’t be avoided. The eight percent cut was difficult and painful but it had to be done, it was done, the DLP paid the political and the period was followed by years of plenty. In the same way this period will be followed by years of plenty and Barbados will survive. wEhatever happens it won’t sink into the sea with the loss of everybody.


  75. @David
    I was to ask you what is so heinous about “rolling over the debt”? Happens all the time with individuals and governments. If I am not mistaken this is what OSA did,(took advantage of favorable interest rates) even though he was criticized for it, but it was done.The important thing is oto get out of the hole we are in.


  76. What a contaminated moral and professional environment we are living in? And it will all come back to bite us on the A$$. When the amenities fee was increased the Young Democrats said it was too harsh, now lo and behold they are saying an increase from $600 to $6000 is okay.

    We really need to stop being so partisan.

    On CBC, Ronald Jones said about 1200 students graduate from UWI each year and about 1500 students enter each year. That is an 80% graduation/completion rate. Is this too low? If only we had all the information we can really dissect this matter and see that this government is unjustified in increasing UWI rates by such an enormous figure.

    O what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to deceive.


  77. @alvin cummins

    The govt is looking to consolidate debt to put it in basic terms. What is wrong is that we have attained junk bond status therefore we will have a high interest rate. This is the worst situation you will want to borrow in. You borrow when you have a good rating and get favourable interest rates not when your ratings are poor like ours. And by the way, they should have heeded the calls form private sector and other economists but they were busy worrying about constituency councils, David Thompson football, and a host of political crap.

    QEH hospital is to be cut by roughly 40 million however we are building a St John polyclinic for one of the lowest populated areas. Makes you wonder where are our priorities!


  78. all this accumulative debt was in a period when barbados was swinging high and living large, no body worried about debt the people put in charge of running things gave the impression that these good days would last forever, now everybody complaining now the bills have become due ..yet these same yardfowls keep singing about them good days under OSA. the same good days that have every tom dick and harry and mary shitting bricks today…GO figure!


    • @Alvin

      If you reread the BU comment with understanding you should glean that we have stated that our debt profile will worsen based on the bond.


  79. @ alvin cummins | August 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM |
    “Everyone has to deal with their situation in the way they know how. The governor of the Central Bank warned that it would be painful. Dr Frank Alleyne pointed out that it would be painful, either you take the Castor Oil in one gulp without anything, or you take it with some oragnge juice to make it a bit more palatable, but however you take it it HAS to be taken.”

    Alvin we take your observation with a pinch of salt.
    The advice you are so keen to promulgate at this stage since the horse has bolted from the stable is the same advice given freely over and over again to this DLP administration but which they refused like the doctor’s warnings given to an alcoholic with early signs of cirrhosis of the liver.

    Could you explain to us why would an administration after condemning a previous administration for borrowing billions and thereby committing the country to financial serfdom would see it fit and proper to double the burden in 5 years?

    Why would a more enlightened and competent administration decide to pay a higher cost to service debts (not due for another 8-9 years ) through a debt swap unless forced into those circumstances by the market demands? It’s either a pound of cocaine deal or none at all, it sounds like!

    Could you explain why this administration is seeking to borrow US$250 million or Bds$500 million less significant fees, commissions and charges that can amount to as much as 20% of the coupon value of the junk bonds just to shore up the foreign reserves that only as recently as July we were told were still rather healthy and way above the industry standard?

    Now tell us Alvin who is practising the “PARO” Economics?


  80. millertheanunnaki | August 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    |Could you explain why this administration is seeking to borrow US$250 million or Bds$500 million less significant fees, commissions and charges that can amount to as much as 20% of the coupon value of the junk bonds just to shore up the foreign reserves that only as recently as July we were told were still rather healthy and way above the industry standard?
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    to pay off for that albatross called Her majesty Prison which have a interest rate double the size of the budget which govt has to pay every first of the month…… thanks to the BLP.


  81. Could the situation Barbados is in be the perfect storm? Is it a conspiracy to re-balance Barbados to its true value and price given its output? I suspect that we will head to the IMF within 2 years.

    Would a devaluation show Barbados’ true worth to the international community?


  82. Seems that the Government is funnying up
    Somebody pooped
    and somebody else swallowed
    Hear the news
    5000 public workers not paid
    by Barbados Government
    Taken off the pay sheet
    wham Bam/just like that

    wow !
    Caswell Franklyn was so right


  83. Poor Errol must be wondering why his party members got as much degrees(the Sleepy ugly man got three) but now kicking down the ladder so poor people children can not get any. Lord have mercy. Dems Now……… Dems again.


  84. “In recent times, the government of the day has come under the lens of the Mia led faction of the Opposition Party. However, her efforts at stamping her leadership has been undermined from the word get go .Mia’s gusto and zeal has ignited only a part of her team. The George Payne and Arthur faction have remained faithful to the No support Mia policy.

    Word reaching this side of the fence, after rubbing shoulders with those in Opposition is that Arthur has renewed his vows to ensure that the Mia’s reign is shorter than it was on the last occasion. Arthur is so worked up about Mia’s leadership that he has decided to keep busy by making public statements and appearances. Mia, on the other hand, has yet to work out exactly where her station in the party lies.

    She is quite aware of Arthur’s motives but is powerless to go after him. The fragile nature of political relationships and the lack of loyalty among the ranks have guided her thoughts. Mia has adopted an approach which is in stark contrast to her predecessor. If Arthur was still leader of the party, he would have dug in and spoken to the issues which are germane to his party’s success, Mia on the other hand has adopted a wait and see attitude. She has refused to address those matters that Arthur demonstrated leadership on.

    The recent attempt to spin The Minister of Education’s comments by Mia fell flat among her colleagues. She was unable to convince the seniors on her side of her posture regarding the matter. The entire country is aware of how Gline Clarke and the others felt about her attempts to spin the issue. Mia finds herself in a bind and a web of disloyalty.
    We are predicting that the leadership of the Opposition Barbados L

    abour Party will fall to the Kerrie Symmonds era. He has the support of those who matter in the Barbados Labour Party.”

    http://www.dlpbarbados.org/site/mias-web/


  85. Carson………..i would like you to get some information eventually that would open your eyes so you can finally see how silly all this tinpot politics looks to people who are aware of what is transpiring in the world, however, the time is not yet right.


  86. @Miller.
    If you read Charlie Skeete’s response to Tony Best’s interview in today’s sunday sun you would notice the high level of debt servicing required. With your knowledge you would know the danger of “bunchingO course we know that from your perspective anything this present government does will never meet with your approval so we don’t pay much attention to your pronouncements, I unlike you will predict that the students will pay their fees, the University will get its money, the country will continue on an upward path, the government will survivem and all will be well. the patient will come out of the Intensive Care Unit and recuperate fully. Capital will return; as it did more than once before, and the dollar will not be devalued. when these previous debts become due, therefore you should commend the government for taking early action to restructure those debts. Of cours you so


    • @Alvin

      Of course you neglected to also indicate that Skeete advised that the cuts should have been deeper, over 550 million so that more interest to service debt could have been serviced from current revenue instead of borrowing.


  87. @David,True but his approach to paying the debt is from foreign exchange obtained from foreign borrowing rather than using local funds.


    • @Alvin

      However you split it borrowing worsens our debt profile. We are in do do, a serious lack of confidence and an unwillingness of Barbadians and the political parties to speak with truth with the people.

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