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Submitted by Sampoochie
Mia Mottley, Chair of the Public Accounts Committee
Mia Mottley, Chair of the Public Accounts Committee

I could not believe my ears when I heard the news today of the suspension of live broadcast of the Public Accounts Committee meeting. What`s even more deceitful is the ploy to put it to vote, “Should  the public be allowed to sit in on theses meetings?.”

Is this the same DLP which was given a second mandate after begging on February 15?

Could it be that Minister Ronald Jones was covertly telling us cracking heads maybe necessary to ensure our freedoms are not eroded?

Should the DLP continue in stifling open government, perhaps the fate that visited the Tilman Thomas  administration will also knock. Prayer tells me the DLP will implode before anarchy visits upon us.

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69 responses to “These Days Maybe Funny Nites In Barbados?”

  1. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Sampoochie “Could it be that Minister Ronald Jones was covertly telling us cracking heads maybe necessary to ensure our freedoms are not eroded?”

    Like a really bad, really cheap movie. I have to shoot you in order to save you.

    Who they think they fooling?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. nellie Avatar
    nellie

    The DLP was begging? You’re an idiot!

  3. Sir Grantley Adams Avatar
    Sir Grantley Adams

    @Nellie,yah got to got in goat parts or just a common yardfowl feeding at de through. lmao

  4. DLP(formerly CBC) TV Avatar
    DLP(formerly CBC) TV

    WhyWhat De DEMS hiding?? Wah really going on in Barbados Doh??. De opposition can’t air de views, the MOF comparing people to his CAT, yah can’t wear red at CBC. The D in DLP definatey don’t stand for democratic anymore??!!!!

  5. David Avatar
    David

    The public deserves to know why the PAC has been suspended. What is Standing Order 61?

  6. David Avatar
    David

    It is no surprise the work of the PAC is being frustrated by procedural-speak. One wonders why it has taken so long.

  7. The Dummy @ Dumo Avatar
    The Dummy @ Dumo

    David
    Which members of the PAC from the BLP refused to attend the meetings, thereby making it very difficult for the Leader of the Opposition to effectively manage those meetings?

    Her enemies are from within the BLP.

  8. The Dummy @ Dumo Avatar
    The Dummy @ Dumo

    The Leader of the Opposition wanted to use the PAC to shame people in a very and most public way, even though those people she sought to shame had not be charged much less accused for any wrongdoing.
    I know Owen and Gline ain’t interested in blaming and shaming anyone without proper procedure. She won’t last as long as even the last time she was LoO

  9. David Avatar
    David

    @The Dummy

    Not sure what you are arguing here. What is the reason the matter of continuing the PAC will be referred to the Committee of Privilege? What are the MPs trying to hide from the public. This same mumbo jumbo around procedure was used by the BLP as well.

  10. ac Avatar
    ac

    Mia is trying so hard to define herself as a leader. now why would she want to fool the public by trying to shame the govt by using PAC .where was her voice for transparency and rule of law under the BLP govt. Yesterday debacle which led to the suspension of PAC has shown her weakness and vulnerabilty as a leader in such matters a weakness that her former leader had jusifibly questioned..another anemic and sordid attempt to reverse the election result

  11. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ David
    Has the PAC rules not been changed so that the Government can no longer frustrate by lack of a quorum?
    If so, why would the LOO suspend?

  12. David Avatar
    David

    @Bush Tea

    Like you we are trying hard to understand why the suspension. If the government members want to piggyback on the usual hot air which come when the PAC has to do its work let it. Let us hear the Auditor General and public servants. This idea that the government is being embarrassed is a load of horse manure. WE the public must be concerned about contravention of financial rules and malfeasance.

  13. PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS Avatar
    PLANTATION DEEDS FROM 1926-2013 AND SEE MASSIVE FRAUD ,LAND TAX BILLS AND NO DEEDS

    Well Well Well , if all goes as plan then , we need not worry about tourist and how many planes land and the numbers ,, As soon as the news get out of unrest , you all better look to stack up on food, Not only nature is coming to this rock stone of crooks , but the crooks coming at you. I hope you have a passport and CASH can get a ticket out of the rat hole.
    Then you all will be able to see why people now going to Guyana and Suriname and other CC countries.
    So all those who love to look at the numbers , need to look at the people in office and see that a bad number of them in this mess.
    Barbados is near its end of the rope .
    Soon it will be time to rebuild for that is the cycle of thing when corruption leads the way.

    We are in a “State of Emergency” just no one called it yet

  14. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    I am angry that Mia allowed these DLP thugs to railroad her. Does she really think that this will EVER get put on the Order Paper to see the light of day in this DLP led Parliament? So there goes the PAC.

    The second most corrupt DLP minister declares we have nothing to hide………….so why are you protesting? Physical Deficit started the ball rolling last time. Now the thugs in chief came out to derail the PAC. Had not for the hearing two weeks ago, we would have never known that the thug in chief was transferring 2.6 million taxpayers dollars monthly to fund the nonsense that the third thug Lashley was doing at NHC.

    These thugs are beyond our wildest nightmare!

  15. Keeping them honest Avatar
    Keeping them honest

    Mia is trying much too hard to make believe she is running the country and not the elected government. Its quite phony with no substance or traction among the public.
    The PAC ruse by her is to embarass the government. There’s nothing wrong with that as LOO thats her mission.
    Its her circumventing the rules and proceedures where the problem lays.
    After weeks of running around with Santaia, Abrams and Hinckson trying to create mischeif and miserably failing she turns to PAC. Mia hear this the people are not fools you do not have 60% public support contrary to your posit. You nor oblong head wife beater are not PM or leaders of this nation. Until your turn comes play by the rules.
    You must try to get the Prior Park plotters to endorse you. You must know they and the lurking See Thru dont give a rats rectum about you. They will overtherow you again at the drop of Payne’s hat.

  16. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Prodigal Son | June 18, 2013 at 9:08 AM |

    MAM’s personal friendship with those thugs, especially Stinkliar and Pornville, is “clouding” her judgement. She needs to distance herself- both socially and definitely politically- from her so-called friends in the DLP. She has none!

    She should remember the way Fumble- manipulatively in true Machiavellian style- used that handwritten note expressing parliamentary collegiate support from one ex-PM to another sitting PM embroiled in a disloyal mutiny by his own ministers to successfully undermine OSA’s own credibility and questionable support for MAM herself.

    Her “friends” in the DLP will use her and then abuse and humiliate her in the public’s eyes. She needs to first and foremost work in the interest of the public, depend on the extensive groundswell of support she attracts and manage fairly the political process within her party and immediate parliamentary group.

    She must make it abundantly clear to her parliamentary colleagues that the BLP does not stand a chance of being returned to power within the next 5 years unless she is leader.

    That is how we the people out here see things.
    No MAM, No clear- cut advantage for the BLP.

  17. haha10 Avatar
    haha10

    This DLP is the worst we have ever seen. This is turning into a communist country.

  18. Aligator Crab Avatar
    Aligator Crab

    @david
    There has to be proper precedure. The Standing Orders of Parliament do not allow the PAC to take evidence in public before that same evidence is contained with a report to the Parliament thereby preserving for Parliament whatever action it deems necessary to take.

    She ambushed the Public Servants by calling them to a meeting a 2 weeks ago and then proceed to interrogate them in front of the whole of Barbados (unbeknownst to them prior to attending) and suggesting some impropriety.

    Now the LoO wants to have the Standing Orders of Parliament (which also govern the conduct of Committees of Parliament) to be suspended for the PAC. Imagine that, she wants to make up the rules to suit her and her political agenda as she goes.

  19. haha10 Avatar
    haha10

    If ya talk ya getting ya head crack or ya getting shoot. Ya getting removed if ya dont support the DLP. Ya aint getting no contract if ya aint belong to the DLP. This is a country where the DLP barely get a victory. This is a lot of shite that happening bout here!

  20. proudbajan2 Avatar
    proudbajan2

    I followed the PAC meeting yesterday and concluded that the DLP was on very good grounds for insisting on regulations to govern the meetings. A similar request was made by Mia back in 2008 when she was Opposition Leader. Since then she never advanced the matter. Go back and follow the debates of last amendments to PAC and you would see the consistencies in DLP position.

    Faceless and nameless people like Prodigal Son who tell so many lies and defame the character of politicians are sick puppies who should first look themselves in the mirror first.

    All politicians, Bees or Dees have my full support and respect. We sit back and curse them but in my books they are men and women of great character.

  21. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Proud Bajan…………i mean this in the most respectful and kind way, but are you on crack.

  22. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    PRODIGAL SON

    I don’t know how much longer you have. You are going to give yourself a stroke. Since the elections in Feb. 2013 you have not been your self. I keep telling you to try real hard and get over the third defeat of your party by the Democratic Labour Party.

    The Government has so much good work to do over the next five years that I am not sure that you can take it.

  23. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Miller

    “No MAM, No clear- cut advantage for the BLP.”

    Then there is trouble ahead for the BLP. Because pretty soon RAWDON ADAMS will be introduced to the people of St. Peter as the next candidate. If he gets elected then the next order of business will his Leadership of the BLP.

    Remember MAM was told to stick to the other 29 constituencies and forget about St. Peter, Seethru will take care of that one.

  24. Hansard Avatar
    Hansard

    Carson you can take Trevor Eastmond spot anytime. You killing me wid laff.

  25. David Avatar
    David

    Are we suggesting that MAM deliberately questioned public servants in a forum which was being monitored by the public? Even if she erred (not deliberately) none of the other members were cognisant of the Standing Order violation? The loser here is PS Ronald Bascombe?

  26. Aligator Crab Avatar
    Aligator Crab

    That PAC meeting 2 weeks ago was convened when MAM knew that Estwick, Inniss, Sealy and someone else from the DLP was out of the island

  27. David Avatar
    David

    An indictment on all the players. Surely the public servants who participate should be familiar with PAC rules?

  28. Aligator Crab Avatar
    Aligator Crab

    If the Standing Orders preclude the PAC taking evidence in public, why does the chairman want those Standing Orders to be suspended, so that the evidence could be taken in public? If yes, why?

    The answer is quite simple. Rather than doing the work the PAC was constituted to do and in the manner prescribed for it to be done, some want to use the PAC purely for political gains.

  29. Prodigal Son Avatar
    Prodigal Son

    Is Mia supposed to wait for the MPs in the DLP to be here to convene a PAC meeting? The rules were changed by OSA so that the dead king could call PAC meetings. Mia does not have to consult them and in any event these DLP ministers could very well stay home because thy achieve nothing on these international “gallivantings”.

    @proud bajan2, please stay in the back room at George Street and put out your vitriol. You and your likes come on BU and say the worst things about MAM, OSA and his wife and you have to nerve to tell me something if I state the truth about the worst set of DLP MP’s ever since EWB’s days? A bunch of cowboys! Be off!

    What is all the fuss about if as Mr Inniss said……the DLP has nothing to hide? Me thinks he doth protest too much. If you Dems have nothing to hide…..let there be light!

  30. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    Is this all a game…?
    Bushie would be totally unsurprised to learn somewhere down the road that the BLP and the DLP collectively planned and perpetrated this scam on us the brass bowls of Bim.
    Um better than a fiction novel….

    Wunna people beginning to see the CRITICAL role of a National Supervisory Committee – SPECIALLY ELECTED and comprised of competent persons with knowledge and BALLS like Caswell, BU David and BAFBFP (if we could deal with his sheep fetish)?

    Without good governance we are just wasting time…and those politrickians will always seek to frustrate any such control and transparency unless a STRONG structure is established. Caswell may not be always right like Bushie, but he is the IDEAL person for such a role…..a national asset (even if sometimes pig headed)

    CASWELL…where the BUP?

  31. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Why is the opposition not calling for a no confidence motion…..something is smelling.

  32. Enuff Avatar
    Enuff

    It pains me to read this blog. The place is crumbling, yet too many behave as if it is a f*cking joke. Stupse

  33. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well
    The PAC is within the purview of the leader of the opposition, but it is still to be guided by the rules of the House because it is a committee of the house of assembly. they don’t make their own rules.The Members of the Committee are:

    Hon. Miss M. A. Mottley, Q.C. (Chairman), Hon. R. L. Sealy, Hon. A. D. Brathwaite, Q.C., Dr. the Hon. D. C. Estwick, Hon. D. O’N. Inniss, Rt. Hon. O. S. Arthur and Mr. K. D. Symmonds

    Appointed on 6th March, 2013.

  34. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well. There is an established procedure for questioning civil Servants who are also guided by The Official Secrets Act, so they can’t be questioned willy nilly. Procedure has to be followded.

  35. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Hey Alvin…..looks like hell is breaking loose, I am getting queries from Canada…..

  36. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well.
    Even though they may call for a vote of no confidence in the government there is no guarantee they would win it, and it might make their position worse. A no confidence vote so soon after elections will throw the whole thing in atail spin, because if they defeat the government; although it would not mean the government would have to call fresh elections; I think it has to be a defeat on a money vote to make this mandatory, an election might result in a worse defeat for them. they can’t risk it.

  37. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Alvin………my next question would be, is the opposition leader allowed to convene a committee meeting with 2 or 3 of the members reportedly out of the country and if she is not, why did is as one of the 22 attorneys in parliament, a former AG and also a former acting PM not aware of procedures governing this body.

  38. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    That should read: why did she as one of the 22 attorneys………..

  39. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well: No hell is breaking loose. the opposition is getting more desperate and they are being outmanoeuvered.The thing is that many people do not fully understand the way the paroiamentary system works. I have been calling for Civics to be put back on the secondary school curriculum for a number of years no.

  40. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Alvin……….if anyone should know how the parliamentary system works in Bim it should be the leader of the opposition, that is why people will start becoming distrustful and be convinced that they are all playing games with the taxpayers money and lives.

  41. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well
    An important question is ; did she have a quorum? If the members from the government side (three) were absent, were members of her own party also absent? If
    so who were they? OSA? Kerrie Symonds? She is chairman of that committee, she should know the rules. Was she “hoist on her own petard? We’ll wait and see.
    Did she do this deliberately to give the wrong impression to those who do not know the rules or the procedures?

  42. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Alvin……….none of it is feeling right, it’s looking more and more like a tit for tat scenario since things have been left to nonchalantly deteriorate over a number of many, many years, suddenly all this activity, what bothers me is that they are all friends, that’s what you get in a small incestuous society. They are going to regret the games and will soon see why themselves very shortly.

  43. David Avatar
    David

    @Alvin

    No need to speculate the issue appears to be whether it should be broadcast.

  44. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well
    The Public Accounts Committee is supposed to:
    To examine the accounts showing the appropriation of the sums granted by Parliament to meet the public expenditure, accounts of any entities in which Government is a majority shareholder or holds a majority interest and of such other accounts laid before Parliament as the Committee may think fit

  45. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @David
    It has never been done in the past, and there is no provision for it in the standing orders. Why should there be a call for suspension of the Standing Orders for this at this time? It is political posturing plain and simple. The BLP have been stung because for all the years they were in opposition the did not call meetings of the PAC for which they wer criticised, especially after they castigated the DLP when they wer in opposition over the same matter.Public Officers are not subject to public questioning unless there is an inquiry and then they are uneer oath.

  46. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Alvin…………as David just stated about the broadcast issue, why is it even an issue that the taxpayers are entitled to know what is going on with any and all entities that they are paying for, does it make sense a Secrets Act against the same taxpayers who pay their salaries, no one will trust that…….

  47. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Prodigal son,
    Do remember the reason the rules were changed by OSA? Wasn’t it because, at that time, the DLP only had two sitting members as opposition.

  48. Alvin Cummins Avatar
    Alvin Cummins

    @Well Well
    The official Secrets Act has been in existence from the time the Civil Service was established. When I was a appointed to the civil Service, way back in 1955 ( I was on probation from 1951; in those days you had to work for four years on probation, before you were appointed,I had to sign the Official
    Secrets Act, which every Civil Servant had to do. It is nothing new, and that oath of secrecy bound you while you were a government employee

  49. Well Well. Avatar
    Well Well.

    Alvin……….we now live in an era of transparency and with the knowledge that the taxpayers are entitled to know what is being done with their money and what is being done or not in their best interests, i was not even born in 1951, why should a lousy post colonial law or act be affecting people negatively in 2013…….taxpayers have a right to know what is happening where their money is concerned, there is no excuse, the island is not a dictatorship and should not be treated as one post 1951.

  50. DLP(formerly CBC) TV Avatar
    DLP(formerly CBC) TV

    @ Carson wait where you was? you was busy paying de old lady light bill that ya promise she round election time? I hear ya. You sure you use de right account number because she light still off. HAHAHAHA!!!!

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