Homosexuals Are People Just Like Us…no?

Peter Wickham at the 'vanguard' of the Gay lobby in Barbados

Peter Wickham at the ‘vanguard’ of the Gay lobby in Barbados

BU has written and posted extensively about the issue of homosexuality. BU’s position is well documented. We do not subscribe to the lifestyle but will defend the right of the homosexual to co-exist in our society as defined by our society. It has proved and will continue to prove not a simple matter to resolve.

In the case of Barbados the homosexual debate has become interesting on a number of fronts. It is an issue which Peter Wickham has taken to wearing on his sleeve. He uses his weekly newspaper column and the talk show on Voice of Barbados radio to bombard citizens with his view. But guess what, this is his prerogative to take. Perhaps his advocacy would take on credibility if he were to declare his hand.

It is interesting to note that leading up to the last general election Ministers Adriel Brathwaite (Attorney General) and Stephen Lashley (Family and Youth) reaffirmed government’s position to support what BU describes as the traditional lifestyle of man and woman, and marriage, man and woman.  It is obvious the two ministers felt bold to make public their positions because they believe it resonates favourably with the majority of Barbadians poll or no poll. Where do we go from here if government is not inclined to endorse homosexuality as a normal way of life?

Another other issue comes from the moral relativist position where individuals leverage their right to engage in bisexual relationships. A stroll any evening through the UWI Campus, Samuel Jackman Prescod or Barbados Community College, one is confronted by many young people publicly practicing bisexual behaviour behaviour. Such a position pressures society to demarcate how we want to organize our society. Or should we go with the flow?

The final issue is the full court press by homosexuals to be allowed to participate fully in the Boy Scout movement. Sure we should not discriminate against individuals who may want to play active roles in the movement. Conversely, it is the right of the parent who feels uncomfortable sending their male offspring to a Scout gathering where homosexuals are involved to say, go to hell!

It is evident that the Christian movement in Barbadian has cowered in the face of an aggressive advocacy by the gay agenda lead by Wickham et al. If we have beliefs which are different why the hell don’t we represent those views and not go with the flow? If we believe there is no logical basis to rebut the homosexual lobby let us pack it in and move on.

Finally BU poses the question to the BU theologians – Was Jesus Christ a homosexual?

350 comments

  • The Dummy @ Dumo

    First defense was, all of men are gay they are just in the closet and now we have this argument that gays are the counter balance to population growth.

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  • @ Dummy
    YES. CONflict and Disease is inherently a condition that persists throughout mankind. It always has, and forever will be unless the species as a whole advances their way of thinking. Which in ur case, i’d say is a loooooooonnnngggg stretch from home. The planet doesn’t have enough resources to feed a growing population as cancerous and destructive as the human species. It’s either we change ow we operate and fuel things, or we perish through certain death via global warming.

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  • The Dummy @ Dumo

    Bruddah

    With the greatest of respect that is pure and utter nonsense. I don’t give a shit what people do in their bedroom but don’t tell that the world needs gays. The world needs procreating human beings but that is not to say deviation from the norm do not have a place as well.

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  • @ Dummy
    “Hi there. I’m a Green Star employee saving up for his own apartment. I need a couch for four-five days and am willing to provide financial compensation for my stay. This is a pretty urgent matter, and any response would be appreciated!”

    You’re an ass. Just as how the world doesn’t need gays, the EARTH COULD DO WITH OUT HUMANS! ANd you do care about what they do in their bedrooms or else u wouldn’t be so invested on being so vehemently ignorant and hateful. I pity You Dum Dum, I truly do!

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  • Did anyone listen to the Wickham/Caller exchange this afternoon? The man who narrated the moment his son asked about the two gays who got married in France? The son watched the two men kissed and was forced to ask his Dad, is that right? The Dad responded, NO.

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  • some of the comments can be realistically viewed by outsiders looking in as an interpretation of the laws which may not be necessarily true. however as one can clearly see it is the perception given by these negative comments which might overshadow the laws on the books and give the law new life of their own.

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  • Homosexuals choose to be homsexual because they can be; that is their choice. Hetersexuals, likewise choose to be that only because they can be.

    Everyone does not and will not support homosexuality, including myself. Not everyone will support gay marriage and or allowing them to adopt children, not me; this though has and will continuously occurr regardless of my opinion. Sir Elton John and male husband David Furnish have now adopted two children; both are boys and will likely be homosexuals. Society should not allow this for the same reason freedom to murders, rapists, etc. Interesting, Elton John said his female wife, Renate Blauel was a knock out in bed but his sexual preference is that of the same sex.

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  • http://dailycurrant.com/2013/05/28/gina-rinehart-calls-for-sterilization-of-the-poor/
    Dummy…………….i know you feel strongly about this, but you completely forgot the link i sent you yesterday………….gays are not any threat to the human race, they have been here from forever and the human race continues to grow at a rock steady pace, the real threat to the human race are the people like rhinehart above a disgusting and despicable excuse for a human being with more paper (money) than sense, a billionaire, some billionaires now believe they should control and streamline the human race, so you are definitely blaming the wrong group of people.

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  • Some of you may not like it but there is very little you can do about it, it’s out there and the gay people will be controlling most everything, the pedophile priest control the biggest corporation in the world and have been for centuries, they are not only pedophile but gay, the catholic church, don’t see any of you trying to stop them, as a matter of fact you still go into their churches and give them your hard earned money.

    Parents have to educate their children re the married kiss yesterday in France of two gays…………telling your son, no the kiss is wrong in your view without explaining why is a recipe for experimentation. The saga and drama will continue, but it is clear to see it cannot be stopped.

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  • @ LOOK
    “Homosexuals choose to be homsexual because they can be; that is their choice. Hetersexuals, likewise choose to be that only because they can be.”

    You make absolutely no sense. If that were you, then this insinuates the you at one point CHose to be straight while at the same time contemplated being gay at some point. I know for me, my heterosexuality comes naturally. I LOVE WOMEN like I love Sorrel and Mauby! But I am aware the same is true for homosexuals. I didn’t “CHOOSE” to be straight; I just am HETEROSEXUAL BY NATURE! So u can speak for yourself!

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  • The catholic church is now calling itself a she after centuries of being chauvinistic male pigs………..please note in the article they make no mention of the fact that their priests are not only homosexual but also pedophiles, they continue to take the moral high ground while saying it is okay to be gay and mixing it up with laws they themselves put on the statute books, our leaders are really looking like fools.
    http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/pm-skerrit-says-no-to-changes-to-buggery-laws/

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  • I am heterosexual by nature and choose to remain heterosexual. That is my choice and my right.

    Some people say they will try anything once, no – not me. I’m not interested in sex with another woman, not even curious.

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  • HOMOSEXUALS are People Just Like us ?
    I think NOT
    Nasty Bullers
    I dont think so !

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  • HOMOSEXUALS are a Special kind of Madd

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  • Lowdown Dick Hoad is not holding back in his column today.

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  • The Dummy @ Dumo

    The world has lost it’s moral compass and people don’t even seem to care. Homosexuality is wrong from almost every aspect but if that’s what people choose do in the bedroom, then fine.

    In will be blasted long time before Barbados decriminalizes buggery and allows gays to to marry, adopt children and condone public homosexual affection, that’s just a FACT.

    Not long now before war of the inner world and the outer world begins.

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  • @ David
    Lowdown is the real McCoy.
    You know where HE stands in Bushie’s chart 🙂

    @ JUST ASKING
    That is SO true!

    What homosexuals are people just like us what?!?

    – A “man” who lust behind Peter W rather than Islandgal could be just like Bushie?
    – A “man” who prefers POOPsie rather than nooksie could be just like Bushie?

    Homosexuality is a CURSE that is intended to send a clear message that SOMETHING IS SERIOUSLY WRONG, and that CORRECTIVE STEPS ARE NEEDED.

    Instead we have morons suggesting that this should be accepted as “normal”.

    ….but then again
    The Diabetes epidemic is a clear sign that something is wrong and that we should identify our lifestyle errors and make corrections….
    Instead, we seek to make the reality of living with diabetes “normal”

    Pot bellies are clear signs that something is seriously AMISS with our lifestyles. Instead of finding and addressing the root causes, we buy 5X clothes and adopt a pot bellied lifestyle.

    Poverty and economic failure is a sign that there are fundamental structural errors being applied in our social and political management systems… And that urgent and deep rooted changes are needed in the way we operate
    ….instead we look around to borrow more and more so that we can “afford” to keep on with the same flawed behaviors that caused the failure in the first place.
    Is there any clearer way to explain and define what a brass bowl is…?

    …a brass bowl is someone who, in the face of overwhelming evidence that a process is not performing as designed, looks to “address the problem” while maintaining the same flawed process but by redefining the outcome characteristics such that the faulty, failed outcomes are considered to be “acceptable’.

    This world of ours is over endowed with brass bowls……

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  • The gay population, at this point, cannot be annihilated. They are professionals and non-professionals: Doctors, lawyers, nurses, teachers and probably CEO’s. They’re not harmful, but damn they are demanding. They think they should be treated equal. They want a legal marriage and even want to marry in a church. They also want to adopt children. Like it or not, they are getting what they want. There is no stopping them. They can’t be stopped, not now.

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  • The Dummy @ Dumo

    LOOK

    I am sure the scientist are working are disease or the doctors are working on procedure or medicine to rid the world of queers.

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  • Yes, homosexuals are people but not welcome in my home, my personal life period. I don’t accept them and won’t accept them.

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  • Both Lowdown and his sidekick columnist Rickie Singh, a dirty piece of work for whom I have zilch respect,who finds time to write about every Caricom country except his own birthplace Guyana,that racist,thieving,dishonest country run by rotten East Indians and drug lords,railed against homos in the local press.I know of quite a number of effeminate guys who went to an early grave,bult to death by lunatic homos, that strange breed of mankind so called, who practise bulling other men.Wicking is not nearly as deathly in outcome as is bulling.I heard of a local practitioner who dons a belt and a dildo.What a laugh!

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  • women beaters are people too
    charles manson
    son of sam
    hitler
    kim jun un
    might be seen as people –

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  • Carol Roberts annoys
    Dennis Johnson will not pull back the ‘oman
    Eleanor Rice calls a name in her cast
    Carol Roberts shouts with glee at some names and not the others
    ‘oh sweet, sweet’ in response to Jennifer Walker MC.
    Carol Roberts knows nothing about Calypso
    Why is she wasting time on this show
    go home and sleep
    your bias is annoying

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  • David……the Hoad piece is flawed in several respects. He is just myth building. Watch for the reply.

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  • Gays, you may or may not know have existed for thousands of years. The bible brings this to light in Genesis chapter 19. Lot had two grown daughters that were virgins because men in the cities of Sodom and Gomorah were gay. Like them or not, the gay population downlows too will not/cannot be annilated – not now; they’re growing faster than the GNP in any country.

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  • Homosexuality is one of the flawed characteristics of our fallen world, but not irreversible for any individual who so desires. The power of the gospel and prayer is mightier than the power of sin. God in his infinite wisdom created a male and female version of all species, man in his’ wisdom ‘ has tried to take it a step further. There was no third version/sex with the two originals, and no where in our recorded history has anyone delivered anything but male or female offspring. Imagine a scenario,doctor to expectant mother during delivery, ” Madame , you have given birth to a healthy homosexual ”. So the question of the physical makeup of the newborn is answered at birth.
    Sexual preference, a conscious decision, could be attributed to cultural factors, or some random ,developemental occurance. Is there a biological reason for predisposition to homosexuality.Epigenetic studies have gone off in search of this , only to prove inconclusive or incorrect. Trying to find a good scientific excuse for deviant behaviour. Failed.
    Is it a moral issue? Whose morals are correct? I don’t believe that homosexuals have firm ground under their feet when promoting their lifestyle. If society at large determines what is morally right based on the original set of rules handed down from our Creator, then why are they leaving no stone unturned in their efforts to promote this abomination? Morality is not based on one’s personal preferences. Think of the confusion in the world if we all did as we please.

    Lev 20:13 states clearly the consequences of this scourge. Whether we like it or not , our only salvation is through Christ Jesus.

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  • Some will never believe or accept Darwin’s Theory of Evolution. Some, likewise will never believe or accept bible prophecies, what thus says the Lord. Gay people do not fear God, otherwise there would not be so many of them

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  • “…..no where in our recorded history has anyone delivered anything but male or female offspring. Imagine a scenario,doctor to expectant mother during delivery, ” Madame , you have given birth to a healthy homosexual ”. So the question of the physical makeup of the newborn is answered at birth.”
    *************
    Look Ph.D
    …don’t confuse the issue with excessive religious dogma now… Your ‘facts’ are flawed. “Male and/or female” is a direct function of chromosomes. You are in no position to assert that babies are not born with chromosome distributions that make them neither fully male or fully female…. Indeed the FACT is that this happens at an increasing rate. Someone who suffers such a fate may well be disposed to be a homosexual and cannot be BLAMED for finding themself is such a condition.
    This business of ‘fixing’ such persons is also extremely complex, since as a person lives, their physiological characteristics are molded in large measure by the XY chromosome balance. Bringing the wrath of God down on such persons is therefore misguided and ill-informed.

    Here is the scoop….

    Babies are meant to be born with two hands and two feet. If we started to notice a growing number of births of one- handed babies, our very best political and scientific brains would immediately start to research the CAUSE of such abnormalities and correct the problem with urgency SO THAT BIRTHS WOULD SOON RETURN TO THE EXPECTED AND PROPER NORM OF TWO HANDS PER BABY.

    Would you want to blame and condemn the VICTIMS of the situation….? …NO?….then why would GOD?
    Case in point – the thalidomide mess…..

    BUT suppose the leaders, the scientists, the joker moderator and the people took the position that since these babies were born this way, we should just accept the situation and adjust our society to accommodate the abnormality of limbless children….

    Using such logic, society would have been devastated by the thalidomide disaster by now.

    What SHOULD be done.
    The logical, forward thinking response by society to homosexuality would be to recognize it as an OBVIOUS abnormality. We should then seriously research the issue to establish the root causes (as was the case with thalidomide saga) with a view to fixing the ROOT CAUSED of the malfunction and restoring the natural XY chromosome balance.

    We should not Blame the victims.
    Neither babies, or adults who may suffer chromosome interference for whatever reason are personally to be blamed for their condition. They are victims.
    No doubt some immoral or weak-spirited individuals may be enticed to the lifestyle for cash or other incentives….or because proponents market the lifestyle as desirable and acceptable…or may be forced…

    Most Importantly, we should NOT accept or even tolerate the jokers who are preaching that we should accept this abnormality as OK, and that there are no core spiritual issues that need to be identified and addressed…
    THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WILL LEAD US TO OUR DESTRUCTION….not the victims.

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  • There are Homo’s
    right and wrong issue is regardless of fact you have to live and let live

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  • Won’t bother them as long as they don’t bother me.

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  • Coldwinter
    If I am wrong please correct me, I heard Peter asked the dad, who else do you know that abuse children other than Jerry Sandusky , the dad said he will have to search for some articles . This is one case that has haunted me for years and I have never forgotten it. Emamuels Jaques August 1977 Portuguese 12 years .
    He was restrained and repeatedly sexually assaulted over a period of twelve hours before being strangled and downed in a kitchen sinks. what did he do for then to do this to him, trying to help his parent by shining shoes on Yonge Street Toronto, they took him in a club then on the roof and did this to this child

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  • I am doing the research for the dad. 1912 Thousand of First Nation Children attended residential school many of which were run by the catholic church.
    in 1990 Manitoba leader Phil Fontaine revealed that he had been sexually and physically abused in a catholic residential school. He claimed that sexual abuse was common in residential schools in general in his class, if there were 20 boys every single one of them would have experienced what I experienced.
    College Notre Dame du sacre’-Coeur has came into the public eye for a multitude sex abuse cases and cover-ups spanning over the better part of the second half of the 20th century. Dec 2012 police had 2,000 photos, as well as computers and hard drives, at locations in Besconsfield and Point-Claire.

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  • The effrontery of some people. Bush Tea with all due respects,you are in no position to lecture me on complex medical specialties, especially not genetics or endocrinology, or for that matter medical science period.

    Can you explain in our own words the process by which the early stage fetus develops into boy or girl? As
    you well know, in the first few weeks the baby’s internal and external GENITAL structures are the same. Can you help me to understand how the gonads become either ovaries or testicles, the phallus becomes either the clitoris or penis? Can you explain how the SRY,(I take it you know what that represents), influences the undifferentiated gonads to form testes? This should be quite easy for you, since it is clear you are an expert on chromosomes.

    My main contention with this issue is that there is a large part of that culture/lifestyle that comes down to morality. If you are telling me that the explosive growth of the homosexuality is because of chromosomal abnormalities, then we are in big trouble as a race. The question that begs to be asked is , why is there no equivalent rise in kleptomania or Down’s syndrome ?

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  • Mr Ph.D Sir,
    As you well know, anyone can use google to access the answers to the questions you have posed….Bushie is no expert…
    After starting out the same is it not the configuration of the X and Y chromosomes that determine sexual characteristics? ….if not Bushie would be happy to adjust his ideas…

    *********
    “….. then we are in big trouble as a race. The question that begs to be asked is , why is there no equivalent rise in kleptomania”
    *********
    Friend, have you studied the equivalent rise in many other types of mental, spiritual and character defects…. Like mass killings, suicides, hate crimes, and senseless murders…? Not only kleptomania….

    …and YES we ARE in big trouble as a race.

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  • South Carolina School Principal and youth coach was indicted on 22 counts of sexually molesting boys.
    Gay couple accused of sexual abuse by Foster Kida attempt to clear names in Trial
    familyfirst.org.nz/2012/06NewStudyonHomosexualparentstopsallpreviousresearch
    Obama pushes for Marriages Equality on the Eve of ILVote
    Peter this is just a sample. the pen is mightier than the sword . and too much education and no common sense is very dangerous

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  • No I have not studied them, but i sure agree with you that these are all very serious, very ominous to us as a society. There are just too many issues from spiritual to social, to mental and physical for us now to address in any meanigful way , we just don’t have the resources.So where to we go, who do we turn to for answers or guidance? At least we have dialogue , which is a good start.

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  • Homosexuals are people just like Homosexuals. Nasty Bulling Chocolate Channel Cleaners. (BCCC) .

    Remember
    ANUS WAS NOT MADE FOR PENIS

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  • A mouth is not designed for a penis but what is fellatio?

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  • Nations of people have been decimated from off the face of the earth.
    How you mean you can get of gays and they are growing faster that GDP——-Nonsense I dare say.
    By the Way : Is Freundelitis Gay ?
    Whaterver the case with homosexuals,I want to reiterate:
    ANUS WAS NOT MADE FOR PENIS
    PENIS AND PUSSY FIT WELL TOGETHER
    PENIS AND PUSSY PERFECT PARTNERS

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  • Nations of people have been decimated from off the face of the earth.
    How you mean you can not get rid of gays and they are growing faster that GDP——-Nonsense I dare say.
    By the Way : Is Freundelitis Gay ?
    Whatever the case with homosexuals, I want to reiterate:
    ANUS WAS NOT MADE FOR PENIS
    PENIS AND PUSSY FIT WELL TOGETHER
    PENIS IS PUSSY’S PERFECT PARTNER

    —————————–
    The Mouth has more bacteria than people on earth. The Mouth has over 600 million bacteria living in colonies in it. The most serious being the Streptococcus Mutans. Whoever want to juck their Penis in a mouth or any other part of their anatomy in a mouth can Guh Long. People go to these extremes because they do not know themselves, they dont know their purpose on earth
    Fellatio is foolishness that is what it is. Nobody ever breed through their mouth yet so why a Penis in mouth ? Stupid pleasures
    ????????
    ——————

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  • To each his own:

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  • Christmas is a man made holiday and fellatio, man made for sexual pleasure – NASTY.

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  • Michelle Obama confronted a gay-rights protester who heckled her at a Democratic fundraiser in Washington on Tuesday, offering to give her the microphone and leave, before the crowd cheered for the first lady to stay.

    Obama was 12 minutes into a planned 20-minute speech at a couple’s home when a woman standing at the front of the small crowd interrupted, demanding that President Barack Obama sign an executive order on gay rights.

    “One of the things I don’t do well is this,” the first lady said before walking down from the lectern and approaching the protester, according to a pool reporter covering the event.

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/05/18769606-michelle-obama-confronts-gay-rights-heckler-at-fundraiser

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  • Why didnt u just post an article on what was revealed yesterday in the media front page proclaiming without reservation that Peter Wickham married his lover
    No instead u shoves this 2013 article about homosexuality
    Hee hee

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  • [video src="https://barbadosunderground.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/peter-wickhams-wedding.mp4" /]

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  • You got an invite David?

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  • Video not opening

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  • You have to copy and paste. Leave out the quotation marks…
    I would suggest not going there

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