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The following recommendation was submitted by St. George”s Dragon for discussion.

BUBU needs to consider adopting a set of rules in respect of posts which are vicious or hostile. I believe this is important in order to be able to demonstrate to those who are starting to make noises about banning Barbados Blogs that there is a degree of editorial control over what is posted. If done in the right way this would not be censorship, just make the Blog a more responsible place and elevate the discussion. Apologies to other websites from which I have borrowed wording  but as a start, what about:

  • BU promotes a receptive, transparent and civil atmosphere for comments and users. Critical, in-depth and intelligent discussions and debates are encouraged. Everyone is welcome and encouraged to voice their opinion regardless of identity, politics, ideology, religion or agreement with other community members, as long as those opinions are respectful and constructively add to the conversation. However, this community does not tolerate direct or indirect attacks, name-calling or insults, nor does it tolerate intentional attempts to derail, hijack, troll or bait others into an emotional response. These types of comments will be removed from the community. Individuals who consistently or intentionally post these types of comments will be warned and, if necessary, excluded from the community.

 

  • If your comments consistently or intentionally make this community a less civil and enjoyable place to be, you and your comments will be excluded from it.
  • Vicious, violent and hostile language are not welcome here. If you use this type of language, you will be removed immediately.
  • Comments which are extremely abusive, off-topic, use excessive foul language, or include an attack on another contributor will be deleted.

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  1. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    bah, humbug!

  2. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    David

    There is some merit in this post but you must be careful that you don’t destroy BU in the process of such censorship. I would like to suggest that persons should be asked to provide proof when they make defamatory comments. Failing that the comments should be removed. Using myself as an example, a particular contributor has posted several times that I was brought before the courts for theft. That is absolutely untrue. I was sued for defamation of character a number of times but I always had a good defence: I was telling the truth so I did not end up paying one red cent.

  3. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    All the censorship in the world will not get the Barbados Labour Party off the opposition benches come next general elections.

    This is all aimed at Democratic Labour Party supporters. However the voters will have tha final say, much to the dismay of the Barbados Labour Party and Barbados Underground.

    You can govern down your blog as much as you want, in favour of the Barbados Labour Party. It is your blog.

    The Democratic Labour Party will still get the word out there to the public.

    By the way we are aware that the Barbados Labour Party has engaged the services of two of Obama’s political stratigists who are presently on island assisting the Barbados Labour Party. You may have noticed that they are many video clips appearing on Facebook one of them is engineering this Barbados Labour Party thrust on Facebook. More to come.

    The questionsi, who is bank rolling their services here in Barbados? I wont mention where they are staying right now, that is for a later date.

    And you can tell ADRIAN LOVERIDGE that we peasants in Barbados have a choice, accept his gobbledy gook or reject it. We choose to reject it.

  4. Caswell Franklyn Avatar
    Caswell Franklyn

    Question: Who is bankrolling the election spending.
    Answer: Cost U Less

  5. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    So, Barbados Underground is now set to be the official blog oF the Barbados Labour Party?

    Congratulations, Seethru!!

  6. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Another thing ask Miller why he was ordered to back off the Bynoe brothers?

  7. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    The people who DAVID are trying to protect while they fire broadsides at others, simply need to be told, “if you cant take the heat keep to hell out of the kitchen”.

    Simple as that!

  8. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    Dear David and St. George’s Dragon:

    I am only a Simple Simon, so can you please define vicious or hostile for me.

  9. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @St. George’s Dragon “BU needs to consider adopting a set of rules in respect of posts which are vicious or hostile. I believe this is important in order to be able to demonstrate to those who are starting to make noises about banning Barbados Blogs that there is a degree of editorial control”

    I am only a Simple Simon so can you please explain to me what is the difference between this and censorship?

  10. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    And St. George’s you must be aware by now that some Bajans always want to ban something. And that something is too often something that the “powers” feel will cause then to lose money or status or power over others.

    I mean like who die and made the ban-ers Lords and Masters over the ressa we?

    Damn (sorry darn) nuisances.

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Simple Simon Avatar
    Simple Simon

    @Caswell “Question: Who is bankrolling the election spending.
    Answer: Cost U Less”

    If this is so what is Cost U Less getting or hoping to get outta dis deal?

    Take care this does not end of costing us the taxpayers more, a damn (sorry darn) lot more.

  12. St George's Dragon Avatar
    St George’s Dragon

    Oh dear, sidetracked into politics. That is shame.
    There are two issues here. Defamatory statements and libel is are important issues although how the moderator is meant to know what has been proved in court or otherwise, I am not sure.
    I wanted to bring into focus the issue of insults and intolerance, which in my view could bring this Blog into disrepute.
    I do not feel that it should be acceptable to insult people or use swear words, for example.
    What should the acceptable standard be? Language that you would use in Supercentre in front of the general public? What might be said in a rumshop? Would you want you wife, husband and children to read what you had posted?
    There are things being posted on BU which I think we need to consider whether we are comfortable with.

  13. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    Foolishness from St George.
    BU is PERFECT!
    David is a genius.

    ….next post!

  14. pat Avatar
    pat

    @ St. Georges Dragon

    How long has BU been here? Has it changed any? Of course bloggers come and bloggers go, but BU has survived. What ban what? BU is not hosted locallly. If you want censorship stick to the Nation and Advocate. How come you trying to manage David’s blog? If you start here where will you end? With a takeover?

  15. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @st. george’s

    You get my vote on obscenity, abuse, repeated and targeted insults, violent comments etc etc etc. these are par for the course in any internet forum.

    Now…civility?? enjoyability? respectful and constructive? baiting a response? I object.

    There’s a “small” price for the freedom and openness of the internet. It’s called responsibility and discernment. The purity of social media lies in the ability of anyone to connect, digest, contribute to and collaborate in it regardless of location, culture, knowledge, background, views etc. Civility, respect, constructive, enjoyable?…these are all relative. some can argue the same for obscenity but hey.

    i say let every voice contend in this free and open forum. That’s what makes Web 2.0 the world changer that it is. David’s done a great job so far (applause and hoorahs) and someday we’ll realise and maybe actually admit that Barbados is the better for it. Trying to control it too much will immediately start the eventual destruction of it.

    In the same way that capital markets adjust themselves (for better or worse) to demand and supply we have the capacity here to adjust ourselves to detractors and jack@$$es whenever the time comes and they raise their heads. Ask Carson if you doubt me…lol

    Don’t try to control the medium. Try hard instead to shape and influence the minds of those who use it.

    Just observing

  16. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    This is David’s blog and he can do with it as he pleases.If he chooses to censor that’s entirely up to him.
    Anybody who has a problem with the blog can start their own.

    If David can be sued for comments written on his blog then he can remove the offending comments and ban the offending blogger.

  17. Amused Avatar
    Amused

    @Observing(…) | January 2, 2013 at 1:27 AM | Perfect!! I have nothing to add.

  18. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    Mr Dragon the George …I does hopes yuh ent mean ME! Like you want the fun and games to end pon BU! Eff um is all seriousness den BU will become boring like you! Dat does sound like a insult?

  19. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    BTW I am exercising control, ah doing muh push ups pon de keyboard.

  20. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    I hope it is not me DAVID targeting.

    As everyone know, I am always fair and balanced!!!

  21. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    You can ask Caswell anytime.

  22. ac Avatar
    ac

    Lets start with censoring ST georges dragon.

  23. David Avatar
    David

    The BU household accepts the recommendation from St. George’s Dragon in the spirit delivered. So far BU has subscribed to an approach where commenters are called-out if they are found to be inaccurate or insincere in their postings.

    There is the view that many looking on would like to comment but are intimidated or turned off by the robust exchanges which flare up on BU from time to time.

    BU remains a project (work in progress). We remain open to feedback and promise to continue to exercise our best judgement.

  24. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Dragon, yah f#ckin’ jerkoff, I agreed wid your f#ckup semtiments completely … People ’bout hey too blasted liberal and David ain’ all dah smart to f#cking influence nah body ’bout hey’s behavior … You got my vote, yah nincompoop …!

  25. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    uh gine try to get in a lil offtopic ting, even doh uh might get bann fuf life under the “new” rules:-

    OFFTOPIC

    SHOPPERS purchased what they needed and nothing extra over the holidays, some retailers say.

    Items such as clothes and shoes topped the most-bought list during the Yuletide season, according to Francis Kennedy, president of the Jamaica Chamber of Commerce.

    Carol Pessoa-Collister, Go West’s managing director, believes people are conserving their cash for the new year considering the increase in price of some essential items.

    “Though consumers bought presents, they shied away from expensive items,” he said. “It hasn’t been good, most of the merchants say their sales were less or same as last year.”

    Sales were low compared to last year,” said Carol Pessoa-Collister, managing director of Go West.

    “The perception that Jamaicans spend a lot during Christmas was certainly not the case this year,” she said.

    The Go West manager figures that persons were conserving their cash for the new year, given that prices have gone up for key goods, such as chicken and cement.

    Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/business/Retailers-report-
    lacklustre-Christmas_13302941#ixzz2GpEldvGs

    It is amazing to me, that after a political campaign by Portia and her party promising Jamaicans milk and honey if they were elected , now that they are in power tings really brown.

    But we all know that Bajans will not make that mistake. That is why the Barbados Labour Party have brought in two Obama political sratigists to try to assist their campagin and change the people of Barbados minds.

    I recall when we brought in Lazlo they(Barbados Labour Party) screamed bloody murder, “she in from bout hey, she shont had nuttin to do wid Bajan politics”, now they have brought in not one but two Americans to assist them. One of them is a FACEBOOK specialist.

  26. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @david
    The beauty of this is that anyone can call out anyone at anytime for inaccuracies!!

    What better way to prepare for work, life, politics, relationships, marriages, court, grievances, love and retirement than robust exchanges!!!!

    Can’t put a value on BU 🙂

    Just Observing

  27. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    [youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LOdmka4_90&w=560&h=315%5D

  28. Candid Avatar
    Candid

    There is some merit to Dragon’s post and he should not be criticized. There is no doubt in my mind as an outsider looking in that he means well. His comments are what we all are about, that is, freedom of expression.

    Having said that, BU/David’s response to the post is well put.

  29. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    The thing about “OFFTOPIC” topics happens when one comes into spectacular pieces of news that BU people need to know about.

    The only way to highlight it is to break into current threads to let everyone know about.

    The current thread might not have anything to do with this new bit of news. So where does one put it?

  30. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Cost U Less is being given concessions by the combatant. Is it possible that they could be funding the opposition as well …?

  31. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Islandgirl
    Dah video want banning from BU …

  32. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    BU also needs to weed out the ones trying to practice exploitation of the mind of feeble minded people on it’s website, which is a despicable crime against humanity and one does not even need to be abusive or threatening to practice that evil..

  33. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @well well
    Feeble minded??? Who you calling feeble minded???

    I doth protest!!!!!

    @david
    So you plan on setting up a complaints link and establishing and investigative sub committee for code breachers? How about a BU Freedom of Information clause? All bloggers must disclose their computer assets once a year and divulge their next of kin, if not their real identity before next elections…..any supporters?

    Just Observing

  34. David Avatar
    David

    @Observing(…)

    The challenge for BU is that based on the frame we have to work within, ie. buck the establishment we have to allow comments which are frowned on by the ‘status quoers’.

  35. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Not you observing, Geesh

  36. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Seriously, most of us would love to see positive change in Bim, there are those who would love things to continue as they are for financial gain, greed, badmindedness and just so they can slither into Bim and get a free pass to commit whatever sick practice they could come up with and then preach to the masses about what they should and shouldn’t do and how they should think and what opinions they should have about all the sick crap created by their own people, as have been happening for decades. Most of us would love to see this practice stopped. We would love to see less corrupt lawyers, politicians and public officials. Asking for no corruption is asking for too much, but we would settle for less negative interference in taxpayer funded entities, especially the police force, that worked really hard to make themselves look retarded. We would love to see the power of the likes of these families that consider themselves elite, dimmed so they could no longer practice their sick sexual habits publicly, and get away with them no more.

  37. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    We all owe David a debt of gratitude for given us a forum to communicate with each other.

    We can have heated debates but should not write anything that can cause legal problems for David and BU.

    David will have to let his legal advisors protect him because during elections people go crazy as they fight for the fatted calf.

    David has invited you to his house for a fete. Behave accordingly.

  38. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    Yeah, well when elections come around i will steer clear, sounds like it could get dangerous.

  39. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    Waaait I missing a low life called Harry. Baffy yuh send him back to Canada? Ah missing dat stinking one call ole onions wha yuh do wid he Baffy? An wha happen to Scoutie? Waaait Baffy yuh like yuh is de serial killa bout hey!

  40. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    That right Island and I get rid of BONNY too … She did tooo offensive. …! 🙂

  41. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    RFLMAO…..Baffy yuh killing muh yuh serial killa!

  42. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    We got anudder one digging nuff wells bout hey. I wonder eff she gine fall in she own well. I ent got nuh rope so she gine have tah stay down in dey.

  43. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Man lef ac … do …! 🙂

  44. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    A White Barbadian committed suicide last year December. He owned a furniture factory and was a caller to the Brass Tacks program… an excellent story teller, and a big fan of Errol Barrow. There is a chance, slim, that he was Harry.

  45. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    It ent AC Baffy yuh like yuh slow pon de uptake!

  46. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    Who dat might be? Harry? Yuh telling de trut Baffy?

  47. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Well Well is a woman …? Nah … Da would be a serious disappointment

  48. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    De fella from Lashley and White furniture … a real nice, nice fella … Apparently there was the insolvency that comes with a recession. But who knows …! On second thoughts … no. This Harry was too bitter … On third thoughts maybe yes … Black public servants can mek change yah outlook quick enough …!

  49. Well Well Avatar
    Well Well

    What have you devils been digging up?? Hope you don’t fall on your own sword. Remember you are barbadosed.

  50. Carson C. Cadogan Avatar
    Carson C. Cadogan

    Observing(…) | January 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    You are cracking me up.

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