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Submitted by Charles Knighton
The tragedy at Sandy Hook
The tragedy at Sandy Hook

While it is always convenient to find fault with America’s culture when such atrocities as that which has befallen Newtown, Connecticut occur, how do we explain similar atrocities perpetrated fairly regularly on elementary schoolchildren in China?

If such similar monsters arise in such fundamentally diverse cultures, is culture the culprit? If millions of people patronize “Batman” movies and one of these takes on the persona of the Joker to kill and wound dozens in Aurora, Colorado, is the movie the culprit? If star-crossed lovers commit suicide after reading Romeo and Juliet, is Shakespeare to blame?

We need to understand that such inherently flawed individuals have lived among us across cultures and across time. Those they interact with know of their pathology and should be held accountable for their indifference to it.

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  1. ac Avatar
    ac

    Over the years alchol has been a drug of choice for bajans.however how many bajns have been heard to demonstrate that kind of physchotic behaviour demonstrated by mass killings because of alcohol..

  2. David Avatar
    David

    @ac

    Your argument is why the problem will continue to spiral in the USA. Who is next, maybe a shot up at a baseball or basket ball game? A mall? Maybe the turnpike?

  3. ac Avatar
    ac

    Yes/david it would/continue. until truth be told that USA has become an outdoor walking mental instituition. unless the problem is tackle from the mental health approach america would continue to see mass murder of varying kinds even more horrific as these mentally deranged people continue to walk the streets unaccounted for and sedated with drugs/and armed and dangerous.

  4. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    @ Miller

    You bring back memories of my dead grandfather. He passed in 1969, was a teacher from the East. He is now a “chalice” or the “ole man”. My father said he told me too much, but we lived together and when the lady went home at night, we were alone and used to talk. He caught me reading one of his “books” and became so upset, I was really scared. It was only the sign book, he gave me a dressing down. Apparently, some have to be opened a certain way, and rituals must be performed, for others, etc. He moved them from the bookcase to his room. His holy sanctum, where I never went because he left it guarded. Everytime I went to the door, there was a force that would turn me back. And it was not my imagination! He had a beautiful jewelled encrusted dagger and sword, property of ‘the brethren” no doubt.. Of course “the brethren” took everything when he died, even the bowler hat I imported from England for him for his 60th birthday.

    He was a chauvinist. Said women had no business in the temple, that introducing Bathsheba was a mistake or something like that.

  5. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    @ Kiki

    How come you led me on all these long years? Did I not say I loooove Sri Lankan men? Why, after Wimal, I was hooked….followed up with a da Silva. I gine check you out when I hit London next year, hear?

    @BAFBFP

    I aint have as many ex-men as Simple Simon (who I suspect is our friend J).

  6. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    Just Observing

    Listen man, Zoe is a man hear.

    Pat

    Simple is J … ? Tell me please, wah happen to Scout?

  7. BAFBFP Avatar
    BAFBFP

    And Georgie still shoutin’ … none ah we ain’ deaf …!

  8. Pat Avatar
    Pat

    @ BAF,
    Not sure about Scout, but he has not been around since the early days of the AX affair. He may be been offended by some of us.

  9. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    @ Pat “I gine check you out when I hit London next year, hear?”
    +
    We can get enlightened

  10. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @bafbfp
    “Zoe is a man”

    Man Baffy ya lie like shoite. No man aint gine write 20 paragraphs ta explain what could be done in 2 sentences! I find dat hard ta believe.

  11. David Avatar
    David

    The Sandy Hook fallout begins:

    1-yr-old Utah boy takes gun to school after Connecticut shooting
    Published: Wednesday, Dec 19, 2012, 16:56 IST
    Place: Sydney | Agency: ANI

    An 11-year-old boy took a gun to school after the Connecticut school shooting in the US.

    The Utah sixth-grader told administrators that he brought the weapon to defend himself in case of an attack similar to the Connecticut school, officials said on Tuesday.

    He is being held in juvenile detention on suspicion of possessing a dangerous weapon and aggravated assault after other students at the suburban Salt Lake City elementary school told police he threatened them with the handgun, the Herald Sun reports.

    Teachers and administrators at West Kearns Elementary School confronted the boy in class on Monday after students reported about the weapon, Granite School District spokesman Ben Horsley said.

    “The boy had an unloaded gun and ammunition in his backpack”, he said, adding: “The .22-caliber handgun had been left at the boy’s home by a relative”.

    According to the report, authorities have not released the child’s name.

    The boy told others his parents sent him to school with the gun for protection, which his parents adamantly have denied, Horsley said.

    ”The family is rocked by this. They have been very forthcoming,” Horsley said, adding: “The boy was expected to be charged in juvenile court on Tuesday.

    Separately, Utah’s attorney general-elect, John Swallow, said he planned to make school safety a high priority and that fortifying schools might be one solution, the report added.

    http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report_11-yr-old-utah-boy-takes-gun-to-school-after-connecticut-shooting_1779370

  12. islandgal246 Avatar
    islandgal246

    Observing(…) | December 19, 2012 at 10:52 PM |

    “@bafbfp
    “Zoe is a man”

    Man Baffy ya lie like shoite. No man aint gine write 20 paragraphs ta explain what could be done in 2 sentences! I find dat hard ta believe.”

    Observing ……….And who the hell do you think will write such crap? A Manny?

  13. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ David
    It has become ‘normal’ for parents in the USA to have doctors prescribe Ritalin and other drugs to normal children to give them an edge, intellectual.

  14. Observing(...) Avatar
    Observing(…)

    @david
    Some people refer to fallout as natural consequence.

    @islandgal
    A manny or a …….
    No hard feelings gal. I just don’t expect man, woman or child to see verbosity as a virtue!

  15. Sargeant Avatar
    Sargeant

    @David
    The Sandy Hook fallout begins
    ***************
    What fallout? Your ears haven’t been too close to the ground when it comes to guns in the USA but Elementary and High School Administrators have routinely found guns in the backpack of students for a few years now. Sometimes they are discovered entirely by accident when little Joe pulls out his automatic at “show and tell”…..

    And Colorado the State which saw the mass shooting at Columbine and Aurora passed a law where students and faculty can carry concealed weapons on campus. Ostensibly the reason was that if someone opens fire then another individual can drop them in their tracks which will probably mean that more people would get caught in the crossfire when some “half crack” (your phrase) individual goes “postal” as some of these people who carry weapons couldn’t hit the side of a barn from 30 feet.

    A similar law was enacted in Michigan but the Governor vetoed it as fortunately( for the people of Michigan) his signature was required just days after Sandy Hook, at any other time it would have received the Governor’s John Hancock.

  16. Kiki Avatar
    Kiki

    “And I would like to say that according to the Mayan Calendar the 21st of December marks the end of the time and the beginning of no-time. It is the end of the Macha & the beginning of the Pacha. It is the end of selfishness & the beginning of brotherhood. It is the end of individualism & the beginning of collectivism… the 21st of December this year.

    The scientists know very well that this marks the end of an anthropocentric life and the beginning of a biocentric life. It is the end of hatred & the beginning of love. The end of lies & the beginning of truth. It is the end of sadness & the beginning of joy. It is the end of division & the beginning of unity.”

     ― Evo Morales, President of Bolivia to the UN General Assembly, 67th Session, 2012

  17. Pachamama Avatar
    Pachamama

    @ Kiki
    You are right. And we, the Pacha, are the ones that we were waiting for.

  18. David Avatar
    David

    @Sargeant

    Don’t miss the point. Guns have been found in the possession of school children before but you need to examine the reason why this 11 year old sought to take to school a gun. It is in the rationale and not in the possession.

  19. ac Avatar
    ac

    Latest an ex-marine stands guard outside his child,s school. Walmart has sold out all of its high powered rifles.some of the fall out from this horrific tragedy.govt scrambling to find solutions……………………………..BTW pachyman your underwear stinky .time to take a bathe. you imbicile and the next time you mess wid me i gonna tell all yuh dirty little secrets.

  20. ac Avatar
    ac

    latest 1million gun licenses issued in the state of FLA this year. the rationale for so many applicants is that people say that the govt can.t protect them so they have to protect themselves .this latest episode is not going to make the gun issue dissolve but it is going to reinforce in the minds of people a need for self protection even among those who are adamant for banning

  21. Negroman Avatar
    Negroman

    I wonder if America chickens are coming home to roost!
    As a parent,I sympathize with those parents who lost their children in that horrible incident at Newtown,Connecticut,USA.While at it,I sympathize also with the parents of children of Irag,Afghanistan & Pakistan who were killed by the bombs and bullets unleashed on them by the United States of America.
    America killed men,women & children with impunity and consider those losses as ‘collateral damage in their quest to fulfill their distorted foreign policy initiatives.
    It seems to me that individuals in the USA are taking the cue from their government – having little regard for human life. It look like Americans are beginning to believe that if their government could disregard human life and kill with impunity,they the ordinarily Americans could do like wise.

  22. Colonel Buggy Avatar
    Colonel Buggy

    Its funny how ordinary civilians have this fixation with guns. Many soldiers,whose job it is to know the odds and sods, and bolts and nuts of firearms , do not want to see a gun when off duty or, eventually when discharged, from the services. During a nasty military operation which I was involved in, I had the option of packing a piece while off duty and wearing civvies in some of the toughest areas of our operation, but chose not to.

  23. ac Avatar
    ac

    With all the emtionalism driven by this latest horror and a call for gun control,one can help but wonder where were all these voices when in the ghettos of america young blacks and other minorties are being killed by guns.no doubt the same called for banning should have been heard across america.

  24. 70th week Avatar
    70th week

    Miller said:
    “…Baphomet, the miller’s grandmaster…”

    Here is a guy who disparages the Bible and Jesus at every opportunity; who mocks God with glee, yet proudly announces his allegiance to Baphomet.

    @Miller:
    You deserve all that is coming to you.

  25. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ 70th week | December 21, 2012 at 12:06 PM |

    Yes 70th Week, I disparage and reject that book of plagiarised myths and concocted lies.
    So yes, God Almighty, you go ahead and condemn me to my deserving place in Hell. I will certainly see you there beckoning to sit next to you.

    Judge NOT lest Ye be judged by the same god that created Baphomet.

    As Above, so Below! Figure that one out even if it takes you 70 Light years.

  26. 70th week Avatar
    70th week

    Miller:

    Firstly, I did not condemn you. Re-read! I said you deserve what you get. If you believe that Satan can save you (same person) then all the best to you.

    Secondly Baphomet was born of his own pride and arrogance. Lucifer was created perfect…Just like how Miller is a free moral agent and can choose what to believe and how to behave regardless of what the truth says, Satan sowed the seeds of his own destruction.

    Thirdly, your dear Baphomet is interested only in your destruction. Baphomet has been a deceiver and a liar from way back. You think Baphomet cares about you? LOLoL

    And Miller why do u continue to misquote the scriptures when clearly u don’t believe or understand what they are saying?

  27. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    @ 70th week
    Assuming that there are acclaimed agents of BBE pontificating here on BU, is it not only to be expected that other contrary forces would be similarly represented…?

    It was indeed instructive that Miller PRESUMED that your comment that he “deserves all that is coming” to him meant condemnation.

    LOL
    Had you said that to the Bushman, Bushie would have had to explain that based on the blessings that have ALREADY come his way, such a wish is humanly incomprehensible….
    Now THAT is what one can call good news (GOSPEL).

  28. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Bush Tea | December 22, 2012 at 9:23 AM |

    70th week might have touched a raw nerve since the miller is (in 70th week’s estimation) spiritually dead and from my lying confession physically crippled. You can get ac to confirm the latter.

    Bushie you are the one that frightfully called me Beelzebub.
    Why not shift our discussion to the East where the Sun rises and explore the concept of Yin and Yang?

    BTW Bushie you still have not yet revealed to the spiritually dead miller who are these BBE’s. I was of the opinion that according to Zoe and his followers like GP and 70th week there is only one Big Boss Engineer. Where have these Elohim come from, Teacher BT? Maybe Saytan the Islamic Lucifer is one of them. Right Bushie?

  29. Bush Tea Avatar
    Bush Tea

    LOL @ Miller
    “I was of the opinion that according to Zoe and his followers like GP and 70th week there is only one Big Boss Engineer. Where have these Elohim come from…?”
    ***********************
    Bushie is not in the habit of answering questions of those who know the answers….. However, both positions are in fact correct. As you well know (and the bright boys like GP and Zoe will confirm), Elohim is a plural noun (like “crowd”, or “family”). God therefore was always described as a plurality, but which has a singular collective identity.

    For example…
    There is only one TEA CLAN, but of course it comprises Bush the father (and boss Tea 🙂 ), Mrs Tea, and a host of little Herb Teas. Importantly, there is a special “TEA mentality” or spirit, that defines the clan.

    Bushie’s grouse with Zoe is his obsession with the idea that there are only three fixed persons on the BBE clan, and the the “Holy Spirit” is one of them. In fact, the numbers that comprises BBE are not fixed, and like Bushie’s clan are apt to increase from time to time as more New young Teas are added to the clan.

    Indeed. Jesus came with the great news that BBE is seeking to add to their clan and that HIS COMING provides a methodology through which lowly human beings can be BORN INTO THAT CLAN.

    Only an agent of Beelzebub would want to put out the lie then, that God was a fixed entity essentially with NO VACANCIES for new entrants…..
    ….but that is precisely what the “Church” has done for hundreds of years now…. Contrary to EVERYTHING that they ADMIT that Jesus said about humans being born into the kingdom of God…

    Bottom line
    Most agents of Beelzebub are blissfully unaware of their employ…

    …go figure!

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