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“Two British women who were raped within days of each other in Barbados say they are convinced the man who has been charged is not their attacker. Researcher Dr Rachel Turner, from Hertfordshire, and Diane Davies, from Anglesey, in north Wales, were attacked on a beach in Holetown St James in October 2010.

Barbadian Derick Crawford, 47, has been charged but both women, who have waived their right to anonymity, told BBC Breakfast’s Bill Turnbull and Louise Minchin why they believe he is innocent. They say he is much younger than the man who raped them. Both women hope the case will be dropped at the next hearing on Thursday.”

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  1. Isn’t it ironic two of our finest are emblazoned on the from page of the Nation newspaper today. Miss Myrie must be chucking to herself. Nothing like earned media to make a case stronger in the court of public opinion.


  2. What’s also ironic is that I can never get my fellow Barbadians to show some outrage at these incidences of police malpractice, when they know that this is the norm; an open secret, I’ve heard Barbadians talked of abuse by members of the force as if they were discussing a recent movie, but yet two white women had to come all the way here to show us how it’s done. Where are the mothers of sons who are incarcerated by beaten
    “” confessions”’
    from these cops, where are the attorneys who should be challenging the convictions of their clients after ”confessions” from these cops, where are the regulars on BU.
    THEN THEY CAME FOR ME…


  3. If there was any semblance of pride, responsibility, national self-respect, there would be no need to fire anyone…. THE COMMISSIONER OF POLICE and the DPP would BOTH accept responsibility for the embarrassing failures and RESIGN.

    …but such logic does not apply in banana republics.


  4. @Whitehill

    A good comment. Is it we don’t care or what?

    Let us see what is decided in Court on the other matter tomorrow.


  5. The public who are considered nobodies accept abuse from those in any kind of authority. Many accept this a part of life in this country. When these nobodies become a somebody they see themselves as dictators and relish in delivering the very same abuse they experienced as a nobody. We have a really sick society.

    We also do not understand the word shame, Barbados is being humiliated on the world stage by the actions of COP and the DPP. Yet there is no shame and expediency to solve this embarrassing situation. No one wants to operate the guillotine, if it were up to me I am willing to be the operator.

    Bushie I am on the same page with you today.

  6. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Bush Tea | December 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM |
    “THE COMMISSIONER OF POLICE and the DPP would BOTH accept responsibility for the embarrassing failures and RESIGN.”

    The CoP is on his way out. He will be retiring very very soon.

    It is the DPP that must consider his role in this matter and do the obvious if he has any sense of decency about him and respect for traditions as displayed by chiefs of the Police Forces in the UK after which our system is patterned.

  7. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @millertheanunnaki | December 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM |

    Should read: ” As displayed by chiefs of the Police Forces in the UK AND CROWN PROSECUTION OFFICERS IN THE UK after which our system is patterned”.


  8. Do these people understand the black eye this matter is giving to Barbados? Does the BBC have a viewership of 200 million dollars? The UK market is about 45% of our tourist market for heavenssakes!


  9. @ Miller
    …If he is on his way out it should be so much the easier to do the right thing and RETIRE NOW. It is not like this is the first such embarrassment….
    The DPP fellow ….. is this the same chap who BFP accused of using a COP to assisted him in rent collection?….

    Which brings us to the PM….
    Now if these fellows are having difficulties in seeing the need to do the right thing and leave office, it is clearly the role of the PM to protect the country’s image by helping them to see clearly.
    Ultimately, when a complete system fails as we are seeing, the REAL problem is somewhere floating at or near to the top…

    Caswell will now advise about the CPO, the ASPCO, the MPHCC and all other kinds of civil servants, whose roles are specified in some obscure 19th century rules, to deal with this matter

    BALONEY!

    As Bushie had recommended with AX- as soon as national interests are threatened, the PM has a DUTY to step in and make MACRO CHANGES (like fire two ministers and retire three public officers), not get involved with mad women and petty details….

    Same nonsense here.
    Bushie would have a 5 minute public statement advising of the retirement of the COP and DPP and that the new appointees had three months to have the situation fully corrected and ventilated….or else…


  10. @Bushie, David, Islandgal et al. I completely agree that the CoP and the DPP ought to resign and if they do not resign, they ought to be fired. NOW. Not later, NOW!!!! Along with three quarters of the judiciary and the Registrar. NOW!!!!!

    @David. As to the front page of the Nation and without in any way accusing the two charged yesterday, has it occurred to anyone that the rapist of these two ladies might be a policeman?

    Have we got photos of the two charged yesterday? Can you post them, David? Be interesting to see what happens, if anything.


  11. ‘If there was any semblance of pride, responsibility, national self-respect, there would be no need to fire anyone…. THE COMMISSIONER OF POLICE and the DPP would BOTH accept responsibility for the embarrassing failures and RESIGN.

    …but such logic does not apply in banana republics”

    WHY SHOULD THEY? THESE EMBARRASING SITUATIONS WITH RESPECT TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE HAVE BEEN GOING ON FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL AND NO ONE HAS BEEN ASKED TO RESIGN BEFORE. SO WHY NOW? THE POLICE AND MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE SYSTEM AND PUBLIC COMPLIANCE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ABOVE THE LAW.


  12. The majority of these charges leveled at the RBPF has come about in the last 4/5 years, irrespective of the fact that we have a brilliant lawyer/ex AG, now as Prime Minister, and two hotshots foreign trained persons as Attorney General and Chief Justice respectively.
    Perhaps Barbados should follow ex IMF boss Strauss Kahn, and reach an out of courts settlement with Ms Myrie, to save this country any further embarrassment.
    Barbados in a relatively short space of time has buggered its credibility.


  13. @David. Thanks. Let us see what happens.

    @balance. In ancient Rome, there was the custom of people like the DPP and the CoP committing suicide by falling on their swords when they screwed up monumentally and in Japan the same thing – not a bad idea here. Let us look at the chaos caused.

    THE JUDICIARY and THE REGISTRAR: They have singlehandedly been responsible for the demise of Barbados’ off-shore investments and turning us into the legal laughing stock of the world.

    THE COMMISSIONER, THE POLICE and THE DPP: They have singlehandedly been responsible for erasing a large proportion of our tourism business, principally from the UK, due, among other things over years of total inadequacy, to:

    1. Their mistreatment of two rape victims.

    2. Their arrest of and forced confession from an innocent man.

    3. Their refusal in the face of the evidence of the two women who were raped to accept the fact that the man is innocent.

    4. The fact that it took over a year after they were first informed by the victims that they had the wrong man.

    5. Their refusal to look for the right man.

    6. The refusal of the CoP and the PM and the AG and the DPP to have the common good manners and brought-upsy to meet with the women, as happened in St Lucia to which the UK tourists that are staying away from Barbados have repaired instead.

    It seems that in return for ruining the lives and hopes of thousands of Bajans, the taxpayers should now be handing out swords to those who have engineered the ruin. And we can only hope they will have the common courtesy to do as the ancient Romans did and thus absolve the taxpayers from paying for their totally undeserved pensions.


  14. Discuss politics or religion and we get opinions from everyone. This issue, who cares.


  15. Well well well, publishing the names, faces and addresses of accused (innocent until proven guilty) people. Well well well, and NO one has a problem with this …?


  16. Insolence and incompetence from the Public Service is NOT a police only matter, but becomes a big deal when it makes the BBC press and tourism is affected.

    Campus Trends, two idiotic teenagers are sent to prison and those entrusted with building code enforcement, those entrusted with the responsibility of entering dangerous environments and saving lives, and those who are expected to catch the perpetrators after a similar event took place only weeks earlier get to walk away scott free …!

    African snails are now a national Infestation and NO one gets the boot …

    I have NO sympathy for the police, none … the arrogance shown in their treatment of civilians overshadows every good that they can claim responsibility for, but they are just the tip of the iceberg.


  17. “The majority of these charges leveled at the RBPF has come about in the last 4/5 years,”
    not true. the pele scandal , the stokes scandal, the barbarees hill scandal, the doctor rat scandal, the ricky singh sons’ drug scandal all happened over thirty years ago.it is not fair to highlight the last four to five years only.


  18. THE COMMISSIONER, THE POLICE and THE DPP: They have singlehandedly been responsible for erasing a large proportion of our tourism business, principally from the UK, due, among other things over years of total inadequacy, to:
    AMUSED, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT?


  19. It seems that the DLP reign is plagued with incompetence by various ministries and yet no solution has been found. How can any country be governed by incompetent people while the PM keeps boasting that we have the BEST civil service in the Caribbean (and the world). How long will this circus continue? How long will it take the CJ to step in and correct this situation. Is he sleeping? Does he understand that the justice system is so flawed that we really are a banana republic? Stupse….


  20. Balance said… “not true. the pele scandal , the stokes scandal, the barbarees hill scandal, the doctor rat scandal, the ricky singh sons’ drug scandal all happened over thirty years ago.it is not fair to highlight the last four to five years only.”

    Balance did these scandals make it to the UK tabloids? The internet wasn’t around 30 years ago, news today takes seconds to reach millions. People have a forum to vent and the UK tabloids are always looking for a story to tell. Get real, the internet is like a microscope and if you don’t realize the power of it you are really out of it and unbalanced.


  21. this is is a publicty nightmare one that could have been easily been taken out of public scrutiny and speculation with a statement coming out of the DPP office. the CJ who have spent many years in international arenas within the judicial system and might be well aware of the negativity which can be done to judicial system and if issues of these nature run amuck should have been the one to show leadership and direction to quell further damage which would continue as this case remains in the media spotlight.


  22. IN BARBADOS NO OFFICIAL IS HELD TO ACCOUNT FOR ANYTHING!
    Don’t you get it?


  23. Read the Auditor General reports and it paints a different story. In fact it says there is collusion by the stakeholders who comprised the establishment. This explains the lack of will to hold appointed persons to account.


  24. So am i to assumed that the CJ silence in this issue could be that he is tainted by the system for which he is to give guidance and direction when all else fails


  25. Wuhloss, the CJ is now expected to comment on a matter that is before the Court.

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar

    @ balance | December 13, 2012 at 5:47 AM |
    “AMUSED, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT?”

    So what’s so hard to believe about what Amused is claiming?
    It shall soon come to fruition when tourists arrivals from the UK drop further by about 20-30% starting this winter season. Barbados is no longer being pushed as a preferred Caribbean destination.
    Don’t be fooled by those BA arrivals. They are primarily destined to cruise ship connections. Take a visit to the GAIA and you will see what is really happening with those arrivals.

    Barbados has done this tourism harm to itself. Not the UK market. Just check out Cuba and Jamaica and you will see to where the erstwhile Barbados traffic has been diverted.


  27. Well at least you sarge have said more than the CJ. the fact is that some leadership needs to be demonstrated when a story of high profile seeks to denegrade the civilty of the country and reputation worldwide.somebody should at least show a level of concern in trying to stop the negativity which this matter has stirred internationally.


  28. When A nation reputation is/at stake everything else takes/abackseat and it is incumbent that the those under attack does or say something to combat the negative fallout. COURT! hiding behind that cloak is not the answer.


  29. what’s the point is putting up the video then muting the sound after 2 secs. retards… does not change anything as Barbados inspite of what authorities is seen as a corrupt and backward place (in terms of the law). it is obvious that this man is innocent. but the commissioner has to attempt to fool himself that the police force can do proper investigations….crap.

    look at the court system. one white man killed his 12 year old son with a giun and walks another a black man inadvertently left his young child in the back seat of a car and the same retarded system seems hell bent of charging.

    those 2 policemen, Allegheny rape two tourists, how will it end? no wonder many tourists are oping for other islands and countries.

  30. DR. THE HONOURABLE Avatar
    DR. THE HONOURABLE

    Fire who ? Fire you , Fire Me
    Not me
    but you
    yes you
    couldn’t be ?
    then who
    Not me !

  31. Sunshine Sunny Shine Avatar
    Sunshine Sunny Shine

    I would like to ask in what time frame must a court protection order be filed against a person.

  32. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ David:

    Is it today that the DPP has to give his opinion about this matter (Crawford charge on rape) proceeding in further in the Court?
    If he is indeed not guilty then this man has suffered untold damage to his reputation and psyche.

    If the case is dismissed, Mr. Crawford ought to sue the government for a tidy sum but after Myrie has been awarded her mighty windfall without pole dancing and the lawyers their millions.

    This case would make very good ‘ingredients’ for a movie or TV drama called a “Farcical Rendition of the Case of Mistaken Penile Identity”.

    Can’t some local dramatist get cracking and copyright the damn ‘tragi-comedy’.
    Where is our cultural initiative? Or do we only see culture as music and “wukking up” to make the likes of Harry callihan take the mickey out of poor Bajans?

  33. Adrian Loveridge Avatar

    Miller,
    according to two BBC News reports today, charges against Mr. Crawford have been dismissed and there was no DNA edidence to link him to the rapes.

  34. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    Has this outcome made the local news as yet?

    If I were either the CoP or the DPP I would have submitted my resignation by now.
    No one would have confidence in either one of these two gentlemen.

    This makes the Myrie case a slam dunk affair. Time the AG goes also. What about the Foreign Affairs Minister? But she has no further role in any future Cabinet in Bim.


  35. And to think that something as obvious as this needed procedure to complete. Stupse, Andrew Pilgrim now gotta get pay, so to the Judge and Lord knows who else, because procedure had to followed. I would luv to gather up all these people in the Legal and Law enforcement fraternities, put them in a ::::::::, light a ::::::::::::, and ::::::::::: them all ta shit up …!


  36. I agree with the Miller above, could not have put it better …

  37. Adrian Loveridge Avatar

    ‘Police have told him (Andrew Pilgrim) they have not yet got back DNA evidence in relation to Mrs. Davies’ attack’

    Not got it back after 20 MONTHS!

    Just think about the damage this has done to our tourism industry and now the taxpayer will be faced with hefty compensation payment to Mr. Crawford.


  38. Here is the DNA issue which Adrian referred. Note we are being fed by the BBC News!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-20515608

  39. Watching closely Avatar

    @ Amused,
    as happened in St Lucia to which the UK tourists that are staying away from Barbados have repaired instead.

    They better be careful in St. Lucia at last count something like half dozen tourists were murdered there this year already. Killers in St. Lucia recently murdered a 72 yr old tourist who was there researching hereitage connections. Adrian Loveridge never comments on the regular murder of tourists in St. Lucia when he boasting on their arrivals. He like you Amused he quick to villify Bdos without the facts.


  40. Whether they are murdered or not is not the issue is it? What does it say for St. Lucia that despite the murders as you suggest they are still able to attract tourist and improve plant.

  41. DR. THE HONOURABLE Avatar
    DR. THE HONOURABLE

    LOL @ BAFBFP

    I would luv to gather up all these people in the Legal and Law enforcement fraternities, put them in a ::::::::, light a ::::::::::::, and ::::::::::: them all ta shit up …!


  42. Dr.

    Please feel free to fill in the blanks …!

    Adrian

    Compensate …? The man spen’ 18 months, EIGHTEEN MONTHS in jail and his attorney comes to the press (CBC) with questions that need to be answered by the police … “Would the interviewing for confessions now be taped…”, “will the case against the perpetrator remain open” … and so on, not one shite about.. “Will my client be compensated and by how much …?”. Do you think that the state is obliged to compensate anyone for being tortured into a confession, far less being wrongful detained (for EIGHTEEN MONTHS)? If there was a possibility of that happening there would not be this reckless abandon that is shown with the trampling of citizens’ rights …!


  43. @BAF

    Were this a man of means he would NOT have spent 18 months in jail. Deal with it!


  44. In light of what has been happening in recent times, where members of our “finest”, have been accused of rapes and assaults, perhaps the CID and the COP, should start looking at their own, now that Mr Crawford has been completely cleared, thanks to the victims.


  45. Some are beginning to imagine the number of crimes that may have been committed by policemen.

    You are on the right track Colonel Buggy.


  46. Will someone PLEASE fire Dotty, if only to shot him the f*** up. He and his merry bunch of goons and that goon Leacock have cost this country hundreds of millions of dollars in tourism dollars. Dotty and Leacock HAVE to go! Without pensions. Let them get jobs as computer salesmen – that is FAR more within their competence. Amd take the Registrar with them.


  47. The question needs to be asked and an answer demanded. How do the police get a man who is innocent to confess to a serious crime like rape?

    Is anyone going to ask the question?

    The press?

    A politician?

    A priest?

    A man from MESA?

    The President of the Bar Association?

    What does it say about us if the question is not asked and an answer demanded?

    Or do we already know the answer and are comfortable with it….until they arrest you….or me?

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