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Submitted by Old Onions Bag
Chris Sinckler, the embattled Minister of Finance

“the quality of mercy wanes”

Exactly what is hoped to be achieved by these draconian tax measures? It is about time gurus in the Finance Ministry wake up and see the results of their  ploy. Can Barbados ever be able to recover given the prevailing circumstances and no projected new revenue inflows? Why what then is hoped to be achieved by these continued, less than auspicious ‘undertaken’ methods…. a quick death for some especially the poor, old and degenerate?

A stage now has been set for pensioners and the aged to falter, that is, if the pseudo drugs don’t take them first. There is seemingly no reprieve for them who lodged all their survival savings in CLICO or  BAICO, now that they have both gone belly up. Whatever happened to all the talk of assistance in the form of a structured payment program to assist these aged? Why how much more time do they have ? We are soon moving into the third year since the CLICO debacle.  Some Barbadian families have no recourse but to support themselves and the elderly from saving, that are hitting bottom fast. Yet some continues on this path of high intake thru taxes, with no consideration for the plight levied on the back of citizen Joe…Gran dad in the one hand…Jenny and Jane graduates with no employment in the other. How do they expect poor Joe to cope?

It is a well known fact that high taxes in a time of recession will retard further what little growth an economy may have mustered….Why then the 2.5 % increase in VAT tax in 2011? We were told THEN what we are occasioning NOW,… would come to being, yet  we went ahead. Now the situation is worse. Unemployment has increased from 9% to 11.8% in less than a year and the economy has slowed down even further? What now?Shall they then attempt to remove the VAT in an all out effort to revive the economy or increase it further to 20% ? Why tell us economic gurus at MOF, as your postulates of past, at most, have been most difficult to fathom.

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154 responses to “Is Barbados An Overly Taxed Economy Or Not?”

  1. JUST ASKING Avatar
    JUST ASKING

    Hey David –Thanks –it worked !

  2. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    TO FREUNDEL STUART AND THE DLP:
    CALL ELECTIONS WHEN YOU ARE READY !

    Owen & co. can wait a few more months.

    March would be good month to call Elections.

  3. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    Hi ac,
    Please explain how the foreign companies exploit the citizens – put some flesh on it.
    If it is by insisting on certain levels of performance that is seen as exploitation then that happens everywhere and is quite normal. They are about business and if that’s too hard to bear you are telling them to depart.

    In my career we were expected to bring projects in on time and within budget. We had to submit monthly reports with reliability statistics, submit action plans, highlight quality issues. Briefed on the performance of our line of business and what we still had to achieve.

    At the start of every financial year, new targets, new budgets all revealed at a mass UK gathering with a splash-up meal, drinks, entertainment and a hotel for the night.

    Similarly there was an annual European conference with briefings on the state of the European line of business, same again with a worldwide conference to give us an overview of how we were doing worldwide and what the targets were.

    No problems with any of that as it was what the job demanded.

    From the perspective of a few cousins – my job was too stressful for me. That rose my ire and I had to ask them if they thought I was a wimp and asked why they dared to presume it was too tough for me.

    I worked hard, at times working for as long as 48 odd hours in one stretch, travelled widely.
    Some years it was all go and I would have to book a trip or two to California to get some free time to go on trips, relax away from work and to enjoy some flying in perfect weather and round it off with a few weeks visiting my brother in Florida and get some relaxation and do some more flying – all at the company’s expense.

    It was all fun and we all enjoyed it. We looked at every challenge as an opportunity so no one had to crack a whip to get us to do what we loved.
    Wives and partners weren’t left out of the social side either.

    There is a group of guys I collaborate with on projects and they live in Italy, Moscow, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand and other countries and sometimes it is difficult to catch up with them for something you need from them as they travel the world for their companies.

    I know that most companies everywhere are not that caring and generous and many employees are largely 9 – 5 wage slaves – that’s business and many enjoy their jobs and what they take home every week or month.

    If I was exploited I never caught on to that fact. May be silly me.

  4. ac Avatar
    ac

    sid you are up there so far removed from the average guy i mean like those who have to endure long hours of work making the rich richer while they take home nothing or little to show for it, they stretch from europe to the shores of the carribbean working in sweat shops and in coal mines with no means to an end while people like you have and enjoy a different way of life and says “thats business”

  5. ac Avatar
    ac

  6. David Avatar
    David

    @ac

    Do you thing if anyone tried they might find videos “USA Under Bush or Obama” what is the point?

  7. ac Avatar
    ac

    @ David

    sorry david not of that kind! Obama message was one of inclusion not one of suppression so what is your point? the point of the video is for people like the sid boyces of this world to understand what the hard working stiff has to endure in this world in order for the rich to live in a world of opulence supported by govts willing endorse and reap the benefits.

  8. David Avatar
    David

    @ac

    Whatever Obama’s message is the reality is that performance wise he has not been able to show it totally in performance. There will always be tension between labour and capital, there is no perfect system – politics 101. The discussion has been about looking at how practices in another political system can be fitted in a Barbados context to work. Sharing best practices is nothing new.

  9. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Hants | September 5, 2012 at 11:07 PM |

    TO FREUNDEL STUART AND THE DLP:

    CALL ELECTIONS WHEN YOU ARE READY !

    **************************
    Why not Hants…….give it to us on a platter LATE, besides…..heads gine roll was no empty threat to those lost EAGER souls…(excl Mona)….his big salary chq is waiting for him anyway….and yours probably…
    Its just the selfish part by you Canada goose not caring about the further set back to us Bajans living here by the more sh#te to be endured…..the longer the wait the more unseen shite floats up, don’t you see?
    “What a comedy of errors, punished by laughter as a mountain has given birth to a mouse” LOL

  10. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    To the gullible….El Sid……straight from the horse’s mouth

  11. ac Avatar
    ac

    david stop mixing apples wid oranges . go make some orange juice.

  12. David Avatar
    David

    ac

    Your arguments are always extreme and when you are challenged you resort to the predictable.

  13. ac Avatar
    ac

    Challenge ! sigh! I predict that obama would win the next election under a system of goverance that gives the people the right to vote in a free and clear election

  14. ac Avatar
    ac

    Hi onions what area of government would you like to cut in order to decrease taxes i would bet it would not be any services that would affect you ..

  15. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ ac
    The 2.5 % Vat en sayin a pang……that lil bit alone cud revitalize the business community..do you recall “Duty Free Day”?..sales soared…..Govt would be able to make back that slack by the increase in sales, in addition unemployment should fall as the sales clerks will be once more needed.

    The only thing that cud help this poor old pensioner is to get some of my CLICO pension money out..think you cud arrange that fa D ole man…$300,000 should see me thru..before a ded…waana cud give UWI the rest

  16. Peltdownman Avatar
    Peltdownman

    @David
    Who represented the SMEs at the table when this piece of legislation was making the rounds?

    David, All private sector businesses are represented by the Barbados Private Sector Association (BPSA). The Employment Rights Bill was discussed many times at Social Partners meetings and the misgivings that I mention above were raised forcefully by the BPSA, to the extent that Government agreed to re-visit the legislation to deal with those concerns. Suddenly, and without further consultations, the Bill was made law. The private sector felt badly let-down by the Social Partnership. Barbados will feel the repercussions in due course.

  17. David Avatar
    David

    @Peltdownman

    Thanks!

    One can only speculate why the government would proceed with haste in this instance but in the case of IL, FOI, CIB etc we lag.

  18. ac Avatar
    ac

    speaking of duty free day it would be intersting to know if the govt collected 100% on the vat from the business as for the vat still waiting to hear what your leader gonna do about that

  19. ac Avatar
    ac

    Shme what shame maybe pletdown is right notice how they run from america to china to escape rules and regulations ones that would bring a semblance of fairness and equtity laws ! what laws!

  20. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | September 6, 2012 at 12:47 PM |

    So OSA is now responsible for collecting VAT paid by consumers during the last 2 years?
    A total display of moronic idiocy and mental paralysis! You have earned a perfect score of 100%. Well done and keep it up.

  21. ac Avatar
    ac

    Miller are you out of your cotton picking mind wher de hell did i mention OSA about collecting vat for past two years i think in your rush to be at the head of the lineyou have fast forward in leaps and bounds

  22. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | September 6, 2012 at 3:27 PM |
    “speaking of duty free day it would be intersting to know if the govt collected 100% on the vat from the business as for the vat still waiting to hear what your leader gonna do about that ”

    So explain in your woolly sane mind what do you mean by: “as for the vat still waiting to hear what your leader gonna do about that “. Who are you referring to “as your leader”?
    We are all ears, Wobbly Woolly, try spinning another yarn.

  23. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    LOL…D millar…whaloss
    yea ac explain ya self….call aarson

  24. Posh Avatar
    Posh

    Well judging by that video we are not far off from Singapore, all they show is a couple of homeless people, we have that. Indiscriminate investment spending by Government, we have that, no one being held accountable, we have that too, highly paid politicians all in context of our economy we have that.

    We spend millions of dollars a year on judges too, their vehicles salaries, Police protection man hours, yet we have the slowest justice system ever. The ordinary person cannot get justice quick enough. Since we seem to be comparing ourselves to the world, where else in the world are ordinary judges accorded such high privileges as the ones here?

    Our own society is itself imploding, where lawlessness is the order of the day and being civil to people is not cool. Tell someone something they do not like and they will curse you like you burned their mother alive. I was behind a guy at the ATM the other day in St. George on the street by the Glebe police station, I happened to look back and see a car parked directly opposite the steps which lead to the stairs which lead to the ATM by the Post office and a long line of cars behind it. A young upstart was using the ATM while all those people waited, of course I had parked my car in the compound.

    When I realized it must be his, I opened the ATM door and asked him if it was his car, he said yeah, I said are you mad? How can you block up the road for your own convenience? He say brudda man that pay for that can park anywhere cyah ya rasshole. If I broke his nose with a right cross now as I was tempted to do I would be the one out of a job am I right?

    But these types of incidents are not isolated, they are not the exception to the rule, they are the norm, no one has respect for any kind of decency or decent behaviour. It is no longer cool to be proper and respectful, but to diss people and be rude and move on without any consequences. And while it may not destroy us now, this generation and the generations being bred following this one will be our demise. You think Haiti or any other totally useless country or failed society got the way they were because of any other reason than the destabilization and poisoning of their society?

    We are still yet a young country only a generation and a little bit has passed since independence. We still have a lot of people alive who have those core values and have passed them onto their children. But as that number of persons with those core values becomes smaller each generation we will eventually be a failed state, it may not be in our life time but it will happen. I am not saying this to bring doom and gloom and to preach negativity, we have a lot to be proud of as a small nation, but it is going to be destroyed by what we are breeding now…if we continue on this path.

    I have been passing constitution road for years now, I know the ZR’s give problems there, but it gets worse. Now the ZR’s are using nursery drive as two lanes coming out when they are long lines. Zr’s will overtake from the back of the line all the way to the top on the right hand side wrong side of the road at nursery drive’s junction with constitution road. I am going to film it for ya, should start a youtube channel for all this shit.

    We should all go around with our video cameras and whip it out when we see any nonsense going on anywhere, post it online and shame em.

    One reason why the negativity will glare louder than the good people is because Barbadians are docile, so we the good people will rant and rave on blogs but we can’t do much more.

    Good night and God speed.

  25. Sittin Bull Avatar
    Sittin Bull

    @ Posh
    Time you get acquainted with a few of these….for any igrunt B-bowls..cuz them plentiful nowadays. Me I prefer my P229 SiG….

  26. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ Posh | September 6, 2012 at 4:06 PM |

    What you described is what you get when you give people freedom without demanding a concomitant level of responsibility that goes with discipline.

    You think it would be better if Barbados is again ruled and managed by Whites? Or even Indians?
    You know how much people of West African descent like to cuss whites behind their backs but adore and worship them with total subservience and obedience shown when in their presence. Just look at a black person when he or she is being spoken to by a white person; shuffling of feet with hands behind back and eyes to the ground.

    We can start with a return of white priests to the pulpit so that blacks can again easily associate whiteness with goodness by not only seeing a white man as the embodiment of Jesus but the real son of god.

  27. ac Avatar
    ac

    @miller &onions alias two proverbial jokers

    my comment was in reference to where joker#1 onions) had commented about the duty free spending : now comes along you miller joker #2 with your ass and buggy whip in hand dropping horse sh..it all over the road.

  28. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ ac
    How F A R –do you think you can stretch it LOL……longgggggg nose

  29. millertheanunnaki Avatar
    millertheanunnaki

    @ ac | September 6, 2012 at 5:39 PM |

    How convenient of you to side step or step over the question posed about the leader you are referring to with some cock and bull story. Or should we say, in your case, jackass ( not ram goat) bring game cock lie.
    We need the truth from you ac. Or do you want to have a horse and buggy to run over you to squeeze the truth out of you or a dose of Glauber salts to make your mouth run like a sick ni***er backside?

    Confess or the blackbird will pick out your eyes. Lick she, Coachie, lick she, lick she ‘til she sh*t”.
    Just imagine you, ac, shouting and screaming to high heavens before you tell the truth.

  30. ac Avatar
    ac

    look take a look at this video this a man who knows how an econmy should work

  31. Posh Avatar
    Posh

    why would I need a gun? lol. I can’t shoot the ZR people. Anyway I guess I gotta man up and cuss for cuss right? Or maybe I should walk around with a bible and say blessed are thee thou fool or something…

    Where does this black n white thing come from? This is a social issue? We have bred a society of largely socially handicapped people who do not know what manners are anymore, or how to be decent and law abiding. Maybe the Queen got out while the going was good because someone tell she carry she ass one day and she knew from then time to go. Barbados isn’t the only one facing this issue, in England the idiots are called Chavs….and they are largely made up of immigrants, who again are given things free by welfare and etc etc etc.

    Anyway I don’t have any ideas to fix it, because as long as young stupid people continue to have children and have no idea how to properly raise and love them, they will grow up full of hatred and anger and lash out forever.

    I think you should have to pass a test before you are allowed to have children, or attend a two year course in parenting or something to get a license to have a child to ensure you are fit to be a parent. It might sound controversial but procreating is a fundamental element of our survival and if those pro-creating are full blown idiots raising a generation of monsters who are somewhat blameless as a result of that raising, then we need to regulate it 😛

    Same way as drivers license or other things, you fail, no children for you!

  32. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    OK David,
    Presumably you also watch and believe what they say about President Obama – a veritable object lesson in propaganda.

    Sure, there is poverty everywhere, even in the US where many Barbadians flock for every conceivable reason including life in the hovels of Brooklyn and the Bronx and yet there are poor and down and outs in the same USA.

    Nothing to worry about and all is fine comparatively in Barbados while in poor downtrodden Singapore there is nothing but misery yet there is an unemployment rate of ~ 2% – read the UN papers such as the ones I pointed to on here some time ago.
    To take in all those immigrant workers to displace the local populace and still achieve a low unemployment rate is nothing short of a miracle.

    If there is so much misery on that island there must be video showing droves of Singaporeans in leaky boats trying to reach the likes of Australia and Hong Kong as illegal immigrants or as legal immigrants in search of the jobs the Australians don’t want, like house servants, farm labourers, street sweepers and such – much like those we see fleeing poverty and degradation in other South East Asian countries.

    Someone else brought up Indonesia’s shortcomings as the reason for Singapore’s success, but Singaporeans are not Indonesians. Mr Lee was not “Bung Karno” (Big Brother) Sokarno, Suharto or his daughter.

    Look across the causeway at Malaysia, a prosperous country with ethnic tensions that boil over into violence because the Malayan Chinese are smarter than the pretty-boy Malayans, hence more prosperous and their prosperity is the cause of great enmity towards them.

    Slumber is sweet!

    Everyone complains of high taxes – just retrench from free schooling, free bus use by school children, free medical services and see a real uproar even if government reduced tax.

    I am sure like here in the UK if you are rich enough you can escape paying tax and as I often have to remind people here in the UK, even the tax man has to pay taxes, when they complain about the amount of taxes the tax man takes.

  33. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    The one way ticket offer to YOU to Singapore still stands…..

  34. Harry callihan Avatar
    Harry callihan

    no barbados is not over taxed.it is just 300% more expensive than Canada
    but you know they need the taxes for the up keep of our finely built .road system.

  35. Harry callihan Avatar
    Harry callihan

    http://youtu.be/qI5lC4Z_T80

  36. ac Avatar
    ac

    Media control by government allows the masses to be kept in the dark inside and outside singapore

  37. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    ra ra ra…….Sing A Poe…..

  38. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    Well ac,
    I may be removed from the average guy so I have different wants and ideas and as Shitting Bull says I’m blinded unlike the wise loafers who are not prepared to work hard.
    I have worked hard, loved it and prospered.

    If things there are so perfect I wonder why it’s necessary to go begging to the Chinese, why it’s necessary to depend on people who go abroad to do menial work and send money back, accumulate some and spend it on return, why the late PM was considering having jobs representatives in overseas embassies and High Commissions to seek placements for Barbadians on cruise ships and other similar kinds of jobs.

    Why Mr. Arthur when he was PM was concerned at the amount of money that was leaving the island and why the heavy dependency on so much that’s manufactured in the sweatshops abroad as someone mentioned.

    Barbados has largely prospered by exporting people, send them abroad, let them send money back – cuts unemployment and increases revenue.

    Even the University I wonder what its graduates contribute by way of using their learning to enrich the coffers of the island.

    Do you consider yourselves independent or independent dependent?

    Do you truly do any real introspection and assessment of where you stand?
    I have my doubts as most of the arguments amount to no more that I would hear in a rum shop on a Saturday night which are so far out of joint with the rest of the world.

    But if fat dumb and happy is the life, let it be so, make it so.

  39. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Sir Sid Boyce esquire,
    Why don’t you forget that you ever knew a place called Bim,.. and call it a day….Baron Sid ……Is people like you who give a WI given a break a bad name…… Your highness Lord Duke …it cannot be contained….. but instead, now you are solution massa…. “all you lazy black ass natives wud be better if you ‘stole’ a glimpse of the ultimate pages of to success…..poor broke loafs….dumb fat and happy negroes….”

  40. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    While I am at it, remember the EPA and the great benefits it was supposed to bring and I knew and said Europe would be the only beneficiary.
    Light and Power is now a Canadian company to make large profits off locals and send them to Canada or whatever haven they can use to make even more money.
    Complaints recently in the press about a Chinese person buying land there and fencing it off so that the locals would not be able to use a path they had used for generations.
    None of the above bringing any benefits to Barbados or Barbadians – But life is sweet.
    I am not saying that this malaise is only a Barbados phenomenon, as much the same can be said of the good old UK and I say it, though the UK derives some meagre benefits from the deals.

  41. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    Old Onion Bags, I may take your advice.
    I don’t have to give WI a bad name, most West Indians do that well enough and it’s the likes of me who have to give short shrift to people who approach me as if I were some kind of half idiot when other West Indians think they are being paid a complement.

    I have had people including West Indians who have asked me what bus garage I drove from or what hospital I worked at – you know, the stereotypical. Many instances where instantly they think they know what you do, where you live and what you think.

    Imagine turning up at Sainsbury’s for an important meeting with their IT execs, dressed in a smart suit, driving a top of the range Mercedes and being asked by security if I came to make a delivery or at BMW where I stopped at an internal post to ask for directions to the IT centre when a Jamaican woman security operative had to slide carefully past the back of my car as she exited the hut and asked me where my car was.

    Even in California when asked and I told the guy I was originally from Barbados, immediately he mentioned ganja.

    Does any of those incidents suggest a high opinion of West Indians?

    It’s people like me who chew the ass off people who approach me in that manner because they deem us all to be dim wits and as the joke goes they think you call 144 West Indians gross ignorance.

  42. Hants Avatar
    Hants

    @Sid Boyce

    I hope you have some empathy for your fellow black west indians who have “grown up stupid under the Union Jack.”

  43. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    So wait you want a gold medal now ? Stop being such a visitant and buy back BNB or sum-ting worth the while, to show true commendation and virtue and stop being the horn blower….Success is relative my good man. Top shots like you know all about our lazy conferments but have no idea about true empathy ….Regardless, all cannot be an Earnhardt or Machiavelli… “some must falter for others to rein”…..Be a good boy and just say thank you Lord….before He changes His mind.

  44. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    I have all the empathy but most believe that my explanations and outlook should be the same as theirs, i.e that they are the downtrodden and helpless that have to settle for their lot and any attempt to show otherwise is baseless and that my mind has been taken over.
    “He tink he white” or the modern equivalent “coconut”.

    Try explaining that even those who were against slavery characterised blacks as people the same as themselves but lacking the capability and understanding they possessed which is arrant nonsense – in the words of one guy here – he didn’t like what I had to say.

    You are shunned if you do a job they think is above your station but no one will criticize you for being a shit house cleaner.

    My aim has always been to inspire our people to uplift their standing in the world in significant numbers so that as a people we can all hold our heads high with pride and know that we are in the thick of progress.

    I have a thick skin and I’ll always say what I say fearlessly, if they disagree with me they can kiss my *** and if they agree with me they can still kiss my ***, that has been my philosophy throughout life which I display to everyone on the planet I encounter. I’m not afraid to rustle feathers and I’ve done that countless times to people of all colours and races without the slightest concern about what they think of me.

    Call me an egotist if you will and no doubt you can – I can tell you that when an English colleague back in 1965 called me a self opinionated bastard, I smiled and jovially said “thanks Joe”.

  45. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    ac and Old Onion Bags
    If you guys got the impression I am some weak kneed and malleable creep, people who I have dealt with don’t thinks so.

    One colleague some years ago thought that he could cement his position by trying to show he was too vital to be moved elsewhere and tried to use me as his pawn, he got short shrift – my email to all UK employees asked exactly who he thought he was questioning my professional judgement and ended “Alfie, don’t be a prat all your life, have a day off”.
    When my manager called me I could hear a tremor in his voice probably thinking that a case under the grievance procedure would be brought against me for abuse and unprofessional attitude towards a colleague.

    Or like last year when months went by with me trying to contact the lady at Warwickshire County Cricket about why my timesheets weren’t submitted to accounts so I could be paid, occasioned me to email her good self, the lady in accounts and the chief accounting officer asking “What the hell is going on and that it was crap big time”.
    I promptly got paid and for another sum owed I got a checque with added interest.

    I don’t do soft soap.

  46. ac Avatar
    ac

    @SID Boyce”
    HEADLINE: POE SID BOYCE:MAKES IT GOOD
    he thinks you can took only if you PULL YOURSELVES up by the boot straps while government tramples and big business stompes over you .Yeah sid i.ll drink to that.meet me at the rum shop where the uneducated and ignorant resides hey you might even run into a doctor or a lawyer or a wellanother sid boyce.

  47. Sid Boyce Avatar
    Sid Boyce

    Well ac,
    It’s not OK to accept the status quo, roll over and say there is nothing you can do or have an attitude that says the only way forward is backward.

    I’ve not met or seen a lawyer or a doctor in a rum shop but I expect if I did, the lawyer would be a client robbing parasite and the doctor would no doubt be the one who sawed off half of my great uncle’s right foot only to find there was nothing wrong with it and the problem was not a foot problem.

  48. ac Avatar
    ac

    Sorry sid YOU WAY UP THERE I DOWN HERE! not surprising that you have never met the average guy the rumshop ones maybe you can take up my offer And take some timeout of your busy scheldule quite possible you might learn a thing or two about how the working stiff work their butts ass for little or nothing Help the rich in places like singapore and china accunulate wealth.

  49. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    @ Sid
    As man doah…how much money you call BIG money doa? Wait you any where near Bizzy or Cow yet…..otherwise …..shhhhhhhhhh.Mercedes and Bima is common place pun this lil rock Sid.

  50. old onion bags Avatar
    old onion bags

    Snip> per sid……. 10.12 pm
    “Imagine turning up at Sainsbury’s for an important meeting with their IT execs, dressed in a smart suit, driving a top of the range Mercedes and being asked by security if I came to make a delivery or at BMW where I stopped at an internal post to ask for directions to the IT centre when a Jamaican woman security operative had to slide carefully past the back of my car as she exited the hut and asked me where my car was.
    *******************************
    LOL

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